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To be able toate a lot more top Miss return early for Ben [Applause] Johns one [Applause] Zer what a shot from dang came out prepared despite the paddle debacle to start yeah that was uh yeah that volley just floated from uh from from John’s on that one

SL out Swift volley response from Ben Johns take the serve back there’s one way to beat Ben maybe it’s early in the morning they say Z two point yeah great spot that’s why I never beat him I should have just played him earlier in

The day that was that was it had to be hit yeah one two Miss return from kuang dang and that’s one of the hardest things to control I mean return return of serve is already challenging in singles cuz there’s so much pressure to make a good return so you don’t get

Passed easily but when there’s this much wind that’s a great ball there from dang you just mentioned he’s been working on his cat and mouse that was a good example of that with that backand roll two [Applause] two yeah we see a Miss hit there from

From Johns rarely do we see that and again I’m sure wi’s playing playing a part in that heavy Top Spin ball to your point earlier too set out two three point 3 three side out yeah Ben using some lobs there as uh dang is uh looking up at the sun sure

That’s part of the strategy we don’t see that’s not a he wasn’t hanging his dinks he’s trying to put that ball up in the sun point nice shot from D here’s another look the Miss hit look out 4 three kitchen cam taking a beating early that’s right Point IA

Out couple of early errors for Ben johns but credit to kuang dong he’s set the tone 53 early in this one set out yeah I would have lik to see dwan go cross scored with that back and use that short angle instead he Clips a net misses it wide

Out and a miss serve Tuan will take it along with a two-point Advantage trying to build nice Corner shot from dang yeah you saw how short that return was from John’s uh giving dang plenty of time to get up to that ball and catch Johns as he’s still

Trying to set his feet great pass to the corner what a shot from Ben quick counter yep another short return but he got away with that one that ball stayed down a little bit more so it was tougher for dang to be able to do more with that

Point another Mis return that’s been both both of them have missed a few returns this is a the first of four grand slam on the PPA schedule this season 56 2,000 points up for grabs for all these players and a big serve will make it tied up at six what’s happening on the

Side of dang another Mis return again that’s you know with the win trying to read the serve they both have big serves you see that that one’s really high point 76 SL out serve is deep wind [Applause] is point in the net dang recovers a one point lead can

He hang on to it that is the question rips it crosscourt he’ll take it 97 two points away from stealing the first game off of Ben Johns yeah he got he got a a little more depth on the return but is right down the middle so dong doesn’t even have to

Move he just steps into it and rips that forehand Cross Court I mean look you can see the wind wow 9 there you can see what they’re up against Point gain point game point 107 d goes big on the backand that ball took an insane drift and dang will run

Away with it 117 have another look at the finishing point just died off yeah that looked like one of my volleys it’s part of the invited game two time in0 and Ben Johns took a loss in game one and the windy conditions continue but Quang dong he came out

Firing yeah I want to see I’m interested to see what how much the side makes a difference right uh John’s returns were well short consistently now he’s missing from the other side so he does not look happy one zer set [Applause] out you will notice dang looks to his

Dad on the sidelines there um almost after every Point pretty much talk to his dad about that I’ll add a little bit more in just a moment [Applause] set out missing to the net for Ben Johns his dad actually acknowledged that that’s from tennis and he said I want

Him to do it a little less here in pickle ball I want him to be on his own on the brink of turning 18 it’s just kind of a habit from tennis at this point one Z that was a good use of the Wind from dang uh using that lob the

Previous point I what a rip on the back end there he said his pickle ball has helped him a lot with his tennis game which is not normally the response you get deep to the corner stay yeah that wind helped yeah wind holds it up Point

Well is that an advantage of that heavy Western grip in times like these to utilize that extra Top Spin yeah ball comes down a lot quicker [Applause] out right here 03 there it is nice finesse roll from Ben John’s as he does so effortlessly 1

Three yeah we’ll see if uh if Ben John starts to use a little more drops uh versus trying to pass he passes and that better setup yeah yeah he was uh he caught dang still moving uh dang trying to get established there in the middle

But John’s able to move up to that ball catch it early hit Inside Out wide and the return point just an update over on Grand standand Dylan Frasier beat JW Johnson in two 116 113 wow out serve is long and Ben John’s is frustrated understandably so really tricky to figure out these

Conditions both players have to play in it though yeah uh John’s with the wind at his back trying to be very aggressive with that serve just pushes it too far that ball just misses point 43 seems like that wind is pushing a little bit right to left as

Well yeah just over swung on that he had different many different options there set out yep so we saw John’s miss long with the previous serve now trying to keep the ball a little bit lower now Clips the net 43 trying to make those adjustments SL [Applause] out 3

Four go beautiful stroke from Ben Johns crosscourt and a winner to tie at four yeah dang just leaves that ball just right down the middle JNS doesn’t have to make a whole lot of uh movement to get to it to the corner goes TW hold him wide then goes to the opposite

Corner four four he got it right in the corner that back can it’s looking awfully good too 5 four out yeah it was open just missing on that inside out attempt four five a clean rip from Ben John to match it five each five five what a shot from Ben John’s inside

Out yeah and it looked like uh I didn’t know if that backand volum that dang hit was staying in or not with a little bit of the wind I wasn’t sure if that was going to carry out longer time out will follow Ben joh yeah L not him that time Ben John’s

All over it and a quick 95 lead here in game two yeah it just seemed like I I don’t know if dang panicked a little bit there I would have liked to see him roll that ball across Court instead of going for the LOB oh heavy angles from the kitchen for

Dwan yeah great backand volley there 59 clean winner Inside Out goes dang yeah beautiful forehand there from dang catching Jon’s leaning just a little bit to the right right here Ben 69 come on SL [Applause] out 96 out beauty of a roll in the back hand from dang a lot of Versatility in what he’s able to utilize weapon

Wise yeah he turned the grip a little bit on that one to be able to hit that back hand Roll Point yep the ball carries 79 sh out 97 and good night for Ben Johns says you got a backhand roll guess what I’m the king of that that’s right yeah adwong seemed hesitant off of that return like it looked like he wasn’t going to come in then he decides to come in obviously

At that point it’s too late giving John’s too much time to set up game point for Ben Johns in game two and he’ll get it Ching it inside the sideline and we are going the distance for our first match here on human Championship Court the world number one back in control of

This one can the youngster pull up a huge upset we’ll find Out as we get you back out to our first men’s singles a matchup of the day world number one surrendered game one back in game two and now kuang dang gets the opening point in game number three lot of win today both players managing the conditions one

Z yeah maybe the sides are playing uh part obviously the player on the far court has won both games two Z see how this one goes obviously they will switch at six both have a chance to play on that far end 02 there we go was a great adjustment from

John’s off of the return from dang it was so deep to kind of took a weird bouns but John’s able to get a perfect drop from that position to set up the point Guang dang started off that point with a great deep return right down the middle a Ben Johns two [Applause]

One follows it up with a beautiful passing shot and a 3-1 lead yeah he’s been mixing up the forehand we’ve seen him go inside out uh for for passing uh Johns and this time he goes crosscourt and for the viewers out there you may have your favorite shot but you want be

Able to hit at least one other shot from the same position so that your opponent does radio there’s down the line so he’s mixing it up inside out crosscourt down the line and that’s how you keep your opponent guessing SL out effortless touch from Ben Johns gets the serve right back

Never seems panicked yeah one four love it come Point well coming up next she got another thrilling match up for you analie Waters swi number one 16-year-old sensation taking on tennis pro Caitlyn Christian coming over to the pro pickle ball scene catch that one top of the hour when switching over to Tennis

Channel as well as pickall [Applause] TV and Ben Johns has turned up his game yeah looked like he got called on a uh High serve seemed to be seems to be a point of emphasis yeah two four triing that out here Point come now 3 Four

B another service F on the Ser saying that his hand came up so remember the Nuance there is the ball has to be dropped the ball has to here’s clarification oh yeah and they’re saying that his hand came up I believe on that toss and Ben is I think arguing that it did

Not so there’s no tossing the ball up on the serve the ball must leave the hand in a downward motion and the ball also must leave the hand at or below the top of the hip so have another look what do you think according to those three

Nuances looks a little high yeah it’s pretty high his contact point right is below the hip as which I but the ball must leave the hand at or below the top of the hip right according to these new rules and again this is something that might potentially change

It’s we’re triing it out here at the first tournament a lot of Pros have been battling back on this one and isn’t the serve the part of the game that you want to maybe make more of a weapon we’ll see yeah I mean we’ve seen the extremes right when the uh Spiner

Was allowed that that just became uh um I mean I’m glad they got rid of that because that just didn’t the serve was determining way too much of the the match um my guess is so many Pros were pushing the limit of where they were contacting the ball that it’s much easier for

Ref to see the hand obviously than to see the point of contact and so maybe that’s why they changed how they were going to call it okay but with that so as that rule is written that was a fault correct right correct okay we’ll see if it stands

Here oh is he going to give it no shut call is out yep three four so a prompt adjustment on the serve there into the net goes [Applause] dang oh 44 oh no and to follow tie game just going to say feels like the bear has been poked on the side of Ben

John’s four [Applause] four point big serve from dang to follow in a one-point lead here in game three bye four point supposedly he and Colin shik are the team to watch on the men’s side new Duo just back on the return for Ben Johns and a 74 lead for DW yeah we’ll

See if the side uh makes a difference we’ve seen the the far end be more successful in winning the first two games and of course dang taking the lead in game three we’ll see if there’s another lob attempt from dang and uh maybe making that first L

Was the worst thing that could happen to him cuz he’s tried two more and it has not worked out for him yeah was well short is the law most effective in singles I’d love to know after this point Point unfortunate bounce there Ben John’s pulls within two so when do you

Lob in singles Double’s different story right yeah it’s really rare in singles to to do the lob I think right now both of them were using it because of the sun being in the face of The Far Side player and the wind so you you never want to

Lob when the wind’s at your back you only want to lob when the wind’s against you cuz then you can hit a little bit harder the wind will hold it up out John’s missing on that down the line forehand yeah the lob can be a great

Weapon if you know how and when to use it [Applause] 7 I think we’ve seen them use it a little more today I think because of the wind and because of the Sun Wang Dang three points away from taking this one misses the serve there we’ll see if John’s Mak some

Pay side out nope side out again there was a similar point in game two when dang was up where they were very close and he had that ball where he went at John’s Johns just got out of the way the ball sailed long and then Johns went on a

Run uh not allowing dang to close it out in two and we’ll see if that happens again or if dang’s able to close out this match great deep volley referee timeout we have a challenge of the out the at 9 we proceed with video review and there’s his team on his bench

Including his brother Colin and Noah sbin is the pick a ball doctor well known here let’s have another look at this call I think it missed I think I see a gap there but yeah looks I see green worth the challenge anyways take a break why not

And draw update for you Pablo tez he won his round of 16 match against Chris Hayworth who is the man that pulled a win over Ben John’s indoors in Dallas this season or last season if you remember so Winer this one will take on Pablo tez in the quarterfinals there’s another look

Behind the ball is always the toughest angle to see though from I think that’s the best look but we’ll we’ll see yeah seems to be out but you have to challenge that if you’re you know Johns you have to use one of your challenges on that such a critical point

In the match yeah Michael brancho Mark Thomas and Mary na are in charge of making the call Mary na the tracking referee bringing the verdict over to the crew so Dylan Frasier pabloz J deiler all punching their tickets through the quarters we’ll see how the rest of the draw shakes from our friend

Michael after video review the out call was overturned the ball was in is all the play is 58 wow a bit surprised by that one and maybe they had a different angle or a different look or something that we couldn’t maybe see um in our screens right here 5 [Applause] eight SL

Out well no damage done I mean although obviously that would have been a point would have giv him Match Point 85 would have given him n ooh oh interesting choices all around yeah the sun clearly an issue in the eyes of Ben Johns and to your point about the lob the conditions certainly

Impacting when they’re using it yeah I mean it was a not a good lob but it was right in the Sun dong gets another rip on the backhand side and guess what don’t look now but it’s match point for the 17-year-old kuang [Applause] dang up Match Point saved by Ben Johns

Trailing by five marked down this moment if he’s able to pull a comeback here and we’ve seen crazier things happen from this man so 10 Never Say Never his return from quangang and a challenge I believe the out call puts us and I’m not sure about that challenge but at 610

We’ll proceed with video after video review the alcohol stands challeng is lost come on time out has lost one timeout two timeouts we resume play at 610 all right call stands Ben John’s standing four points away from Quang dang match on the line how about that put away from the

Young 17-year-old Quang Swang as we welcome in our viewers from Tennis Channel the carvana PPA tour ringing in the new year in a historical Grand Slam fashion here in Palm Springs match point for kuang dang [Applause] and it’ll do it the 17-year-old dang Thrones The King in the

Desert the official ball of the PPA Tour yeah yeah face face welcome to the studio Cameron Blackwood Matt manasse and kuang dang congratulations a huge win for you how did you get it done against Ben John’s honestly I would I didn’t expect much uh this time I mean when we first came here this morning was extremely

Windy I just trying to get into my rhythm a lot uh when like once we get into the match I didn’t like my paddle was not approved because there’s too much white which I have no clue about so we changed paddle last minute luckily

Had a spare uh wi in honestly I was just thinking of trying my best get more than more than just be better than the last time and yeah it just work worked well really well this time yes it did did that you talked about the paddle did

That give you any extra motivation like I want to use my white paddle now I have to switch to the blue and pink did it give you any extra out there a little extra motivation for that as well um but I also did kind of get lucky today I

Mean the new balls new win new serve rules everything Ben honestly didn’t play his best today I be honest but um I just and of course the last shot lucky Le courts I know I saw you were probably pretty pleased when that went over yeah

Kind of but overall it was like a pretty good decent match I would say that I saw you out here with your dad earlier working on some stuff in the wind what were you working on to prepare for this match uh uh hit cat Mouse games his um well our own Pacific strategies

Especially the cad Mouse and just also getting the the new surf always getting groove it in and especially the win today as well was pretty bad and I know that we didn’t have much time off we only had about four weeks off in between s Clemen and coming here did you take

Any time off or were you Drilling and practicing still every day um actually for the first week I did a lot I did like very uh high intensity training and then I took two weeks off because I just recently got u a nose surgery because of

My um septums or allergies now and then I took two weeks off which is pretty nice and then um after that I got like a week and a half prepared for Masters and then yeah it’s all good now jokovic had a deviated septum surgery and it’s done

Quite well for him so if if that follows you’ll be in good company uh you have Pablo te next in the quarters what do you think you have to prepare for a lefty like him lefty well um I don’t know yet I probably I let my dad on that

He will watch the matches um Scout him but definitely I’d be back here in the evening just warming up again practicing for tomorrow matches well thank you so much for joining us and winning such an incredible match Quang dang taking out the number one in the world

42 Comments

  1. The Refs COMPLETELY Screwed Ben on this match. 2 BULLSH!T calls on his serves in the 3rd set? What a joke

  2. Can you please upload videos that have a framerate higher than 12 FPS? I've watch 21 seconds of this and it's already annoying.

  3. I would think the PPA has enough money to place cameras right along lines instead of angled. Both of the calls at the end were impossible to see exactly where it landed based on the sun with shadow and angle of camera. Bush league to me!

  4. 31:32 anyone notice multiple times when Duong will go for a drive on his forehand and his follow through won’t cross his body and instead lifts up over the same aside shoulder? I’ve never seen this before but obviously this technique came from tennis or something right?

  5. Nice young talent. Great for the game and future of Pickle. So happy Ben lost. He needs to be challenged to keep pushing. Sock and Duong style of play will help elevate the sport.

  6. Great job by the young gun taking out the best to do it. Any given day it can happen. That being said the new serve debate could be solved by one simple rule, just go to drop serve for everyone that's the best of all worlds. Easy fix in my opinion.

  7. To all the non-Vietnamese people out there, Duong is pronounced Y-OO-NG. Way to represent kid. Announcers need to be corrected so it doesn’t continue to happen.

  8. Duong having his dad as his coach is his super power. Nobody wants you to succeed more than your dad. Both of them putting 100% on his pickleball career. This is awesome.

    Congrats to the avatar!

  9. Bang. Bang. Bang.
    I say ban carbon fiber. Roll back paddle technology. Make paddles smooth again with less bite. Force players to learn pickelball skill. Or soon the soft game will be obsolete because you can hit a hard and heavy topspin ball from your ankles while at the kitchen and still keep it in. Great win for Duong. He’s not doing anything wrong. But paddle technology is taking what’s-making-pickleball-different -from-tennis out of the equation.

  10. Duong seems like a good bloke. I absolutely hate the serve rules they are experimenting with. They should just go back to what they had and actually enforce those instead

  11. Doung's serve @24:56 isn't any different than the issue they called BJ for just prior. His arm is raising up before the drop and above the hip just like BJ. Why was he not called for the exact same issue? Then BJ does the same thing he already got called for @25:24 and no call. This rule is either too subjective or to difficult to call consistently.

  12. The female announcer is so one-sided to Johns. Whatever matchup I see, she emphasizes Ben's play while downplaying the play of his opponents. If Johns puts away a pop-up she proclaims what a wonderful and beautiful shot that Ben and only Ben could have made. If he misses, she exclaims what a wonderful and beautiful shot it would have been if it had gone in. If the opponent makes a beautiful shot – it's how "Ben Johns almost got to that one and if he did it would have been beautiful and wonderful" Just ask him to marry you already! And it only gets worse if ALW is playing. It's like a drool fest. Maybe make your reverence a little less obvious?

  13. The challenge at 30:42 should not have went in favor of Ben Johns. Lol some rigging at work in Pickleball already? Keep the top Joola earner on top

  14. Dogshit referees favoring ben Johnson. Both balls were clearly in favor of Quang.

  15. Watch Quang's serve immediately after Ben Jonhs is called for an illegal server. Quang's hand at 24:56 is clearly moving upwards until the release at 24:57, and his release well above his hip. New serve rules seem to be a joke, PPA should just go to drop serve only as it would be much easier to have a consistent ruling on serves.

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