Shaun Custis and Henry Winter debate Ben White’s refusal to play for England in the March international break.
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On Thursday Gareth Southgate named his England squad for the upcoming friendlies against Brazil and Belgium crucial friendlies ahead of the Euros lots to work out lots to find out about some of the new uh inclusions like Jared bran weight for instance but there was no Eric Dyer or Ross Barkley as I said
Despite Henry’s campaign to get them in by going to interview them and there was no Ben White and on breakfast Friday morning live from the cheltam festival former Tottenham and West Ham manager Harry rnap had his say on making himself unavailable for selection and it’s safe
To say he was not best pleased the door should be slammed right in his mush honestly I don’t no time at all he don’t want to play for his country goes to the World Cup comes home because he’s not in the what in the team or whatever I’m sorry
You’ve had your opportunity you don’t want to play for England don’t tell the the Bobby Moos at this world who got under n caps the shieldon the beckhams the Rooney them people don’t tell the the Billy bonds of this world get a cap and should have done and all them great
Players they don’t want to play for their country I think it’s disgusting I’m with you I can’t have him if he don’t want to play it’s fine okay you don’t want to play don’t play anymore thank you very much great stuff from Harry as ever are you in agreement with
Him Henry well I love the idea of slamming a door shut because I his mush I think he said in his mush yeah I think St George’s Park is actually a sort of revolving door so uh but look I I mean I agree with him his sentiments we have to
Be fair fairly careful and there was a discussion amongst the sort of the media when we were there and uh with with Southgate at Wembley on was it Thursday and he was talking about it and Southgate was very careful about it as well in terms of the backlash less for
Ben White himself but you know he’s got people around him he’s got family you know that we have to be sort of respectful of that but absolutely I agree with Harry rnap I think it’s such an honor and a privilege to represent your country you can understand an
Element of frustration is that Ben doesn’t think he’s not going to get in ahead of kyl Walker and then he may look to his left and see Harry MaGuire starting and think well maybe I should be starting in in central Midfield he’s one of those individuals as we
Discovered during the World Cup in Qatar who is passionate about training he’s passionate about playing but then rattling around a hotel and sort of discussing you know Iraq’s 442 formation with a coaching staff is just not Ben White’s you know he would rather just be
Away from that and be be with his family he’s not obsessed with the sport he’s you know he’s a very he’s professional with his training and he’s playing you talk to people Arsenal you talk to people around him but absolutely I mean I Echo rnaps comments you know there are
I mean you look at Kyle Walker you know Kyle Walker reports he gets you know he gets stick on the front page he gets you know he gets question and there he is he’s reporting for Duty he wants the captain he wants to play every game and
Look he’s probably you know the best right back in the world at the moment so uh you know it’s it’s we talked to Southgate about this you know I mean I asked him about you know his his debut against Portugal in 1995 when he came on for Dennis wise which is quite
Interesting substitution and then you know the and the his pride in it and then the following year all the stick that he got at Wembley for for missing that penalty and yet the next game mova away he reported for for Duty you know he could have hidden but he didn’t and
The majority of England players so coming back to Harry rnaps um rant SLP perspective when he actually mentioned all those players I would be quite interested if Ben White actually went and said that to Ian Wright to Tony Adams to David Seaman Arsenal Legends who were also England Legends as well um
Ryan has texted in to say Gareth Southgate threw Ben White under the bus and it shows what a coward he is Gareth Knows Why Ben doesn’t want to be called up yet he made everyone think it was Ben’s fault and caused a pile on pathetic I think that’s that is Harsh um
But Garth did say he didn’t really know the reason didn’t he now he must know the reason no because what happens what happen Sean you know how these these things work in terms of the the clubs get contacted in advance about the long list the availability and whether that’s
Sort of slightly a medical issue you know are they fit and then the call came back from Arsenal from edu their sporting director that Ben White didn’t want to report for for Duty and now southgate’s argument is is that look we always have having a a pop at him for
Not picking players on form Eric D Ros Barkley to uh to to take your point um but actually Ben White is inform formed so the obvious question was why wasn’t Ben White there so Gareth was simply just clarifying that Ben White had made it known but why would have picked him
On form yes but why wasn’t he there that’s the point Gareth surely knows he knows what went on at the World Cup when wanted to leave the squad Gareth he’s not one of those managers who tends to lie I don’t think you I’m not say I’m
Not I and I think he was he was just baffled he said I don’t understand it you know you have to ask Arsenal you have to ask Ben why he was very keen to play Down the S the the Steve Holland theory that they hadn’t got on I think
One thing we do know is that Ben White is not necessarily passionate about sort of going and spending a month away from home when he’s not going to start but the thing is there are only 23 players going in the squad Ben White would probably would probably get into that 23
Absolutely no chance now he’ll never play for England again that door is closed revolving or or slammed or whatever but he you know if he if he’d actually gone to uh to to to Germany this summer the chances are with only 23 it’s not 26 is that he would have
Featured at some point and what a miss this is going to be and in 105 years time his kids will say when England won the uh the European championships in Berlin that triumphant moment why weren’t you there but we did have 25 and I was uh obviously you’ve
Had your camp campaign as I mentioned earlier on to get Diane Barkley in but they weren’t in so did you quiz Gareth and demand to know why your campaign hadn’t worked no because I didn’t expect either of them to be and when I sort of
Talked to them I wish we could play a few clips of you on Eric a couple of weeks ago ABS no all I was doing because you very naively have no interest in German football and he’s been playing well all I was doing uh you know I mean
We have a girl at Southgate for not picking on form so we we were just highlighting that Eric dar’s informed that he’s do well said on here he has made a great case to be back you told us all about what he done at the World Cup
And why should but instead you got Jared brane now I presume you’re in favor of that now then no I think it’s too early for him but I mean I think it what it does I think it highlights the issues that England have at Center back and
Also I mean if you I don’t know if you’ve read the papers today but there’s some very interesting England pieces I I direct you to uh Sam Wallace’s in the in the Sunday Telegraph which is a very interesting take because a lot of the Sunday reporters went on the news lines
Of uh Southgate talking about rashford and greish have really got to raise their game at to be consider absolutely true because of you know the Alternatives that England have uh have out why England’s attacking depth is is extraordinary Sam goes into that but two-thirds of the way through the PE Ju
Just to sort of re one bit of it he said you know isn’t it fantastic for England South great England manager GIS South gate he can call upon the top scorer in Spain Bellingham the top scorer in Germany Kane and six of the top scorers in the English Top Flight England have
Got so much sort of attacking talent coming back to Ben White Defender wouldn’t you have loved to have actually been in this group which is going he’s got a very good chance of winning in Germany but then Sam goes on to I don’t know whether how far you actually get
Through the pieces but he about 23 three qu of the way through Sam talks about you know the issue of the playmaking number six alongside rice so what would you do there would you have a Jordan Henderson along rice alongside rice and and Bingham do you think that Jordan
Henderson is a man in form because again he gets in there and everybody goes no we can’t have Jordan Henderson where do you stand well I’m asking you I mean he’s I’m just saying that Southgate will will he Henderson is bound to be in the squad and probably be in the starting
LEL particularly with Calvin Phillips struggling for form and not in the squad now I would prefer change of prefer would you have a foden in there or would you have a foden on the on the left playing a bit deeper and helping out I mean look I I understand all the
Arguments maybe change formation to accommodate the type of players you’ve got the the type of good players which you’ve just reeled off there lots of good play players maybe we can find a way of accommodating all the good players into the team and changing formation accordingly is that not an
Option no I think he’ll stick with 433 and he’ll have it would be rice Bellingham and one other I mean I’m a big Trent Alexander Arnold fan but no are you but in terms of playing him in that position because I think going need
To go on the front foot plus also if you I don’t know how much of Manchester City you watch but John Stones has been outstanding Midfield oh Stones wasn’t playing wasn’t St but I mean he you know he’s outstanding at the point I’m making is he’s outstanding at stepping into
Midfield and if and he can step in alongside R um we should just mention that there’s a little injury worried about Harry Kane cuz he collided with a post playing for Bayern Munich yesterday but uh unlike Mr White I think Harry Kane will probably crawl to uh England
Camp this week to be involved don’t you absolutely I mean it is it is a slight concern but I mean it’s remarkable his 31st League goal of the season a Bundesliga record for for for doing it this early and then you look at the sort of the the options that England
Have got behind them Watkins is in form Ivan Tony can take penalties you assume that uh he would have a very good chance of going Marcus rashford I know he’s best on the on the left but he can also almost be like your sort of fourth
Choice of uh of Center forwards but you know it is a concern if if Kane’s not there who would you start of the two if Kane doesn’t isn’t fit for for for Brazil would you start Watkins or Tony oh Watkins I think I think Watkins is
The man in forat Tony by all accounts wasn’t great yesterday I think Watkins it feels like he’s got a lot of confidence at the moment um um yeah I’d go for him definitely um you touched on rashford and Greeling greish being told their place isn’t guaranteed was that a
Real their place isn’t guaranteed or was it just the usual oh well you know their place isn’t guaranteed but they’ll probably be on the plane well the the headlines in the sober papers as as well as the more excitable ones rashford and greish giving Euro warning I think that
Is the theme that Southgate wanted to to make the point of he also makes the point he says um say Southgate talking about rashford he has a battle on his hands with Gordon with Cole Palmer with Phil foden we’ve got big competition for places in in that area of the field
Particularly on the left I mean you see a lot of Gordon I quite like it when he plays through the middle but I think in I think that’s I think probably coming in off the white is probably the the third best of his sort of attacking three positions best off the left the
One worry about Gordon is he doesn’t always seem able to get through 90 minutes and he does have a few injury worries I do think that’s a little bit of a concern but you know if you got the subs to bring on you rotate it he’s not
Likely to be starting for for England if rashford or or foden I mean where do you play foden clearly has to start but do you play him alongside rice and Bellingham or do you six up front Henry six up front well I know you will that’s that’s the Kevin Keegan in
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Another clout chaser, you all should get outta ya feelings and leave Benny Blanco alone 😂😂😂😂
It's football game, not WWIII
Southgate says he doesn't know…then says it's certainly not because of Holland. How does he know that, if he "doesn't know"?
Maybe you need to speak to better journalists for such diatribe.
Arry, thanks for your opinion, no one cares about it.
again the UK media trying to set an agenda, what utter rubbish is this guy on about. Ben white did not turn england down he turned down bottlegate and his backroom staff who he doesn't get along with. also if Ben White really did not want to play for england, then why did he accept his 1st call up and some after that if he didnt want to play for his country. this has nothing to do with england and all to do with that useless clown Bottlegate and his stupid waistcoats that cutting the oxygen supply to his head playing dire football with probably the greatest talent pool of english players ever and somehow they play negative relegation type football, when all these player at there clubs play possession base, high press, obsessive domination football pining the opposition back and controlling games or having quick transition built in when required. But what should we expect when the FA just want a yes men and hired a regulation candidate manager to manage a national team.
Who cares, not talking about Bellingham or Foden here are we
I am not sure Ben will regret his decisiin
He is on record saying he does not like football and rately estches games. It is not cimpulsoey but it does not look good not wanting to play forbyour country under this particular management team
Some of the comments make me shake my head. 1) it’s well known that Ben White (rightly or wrongly) doesn’t want to go to a tournament and never play. He believes he should start for England. (I do too btw) 2) If Southgate really wanted to throw White under the bus, he would have said exactly that. 2) when Henry Winter said “when England win the Euros” it was a hypothetical (big word for some). Winter said White may regret not going if England win the cup, because White would be missing out on being apart of a historic occasion.
Nah he won’t ask Paul Scholes premier leagues and champions leagues and even fa cups mean much more
Hopefully kobbie Mainoo follows suit
It’s down to Ben White to tell the world why he doesn’t want to play, no one else…grow a pair!
Didn’t even have the balls to tell Southgate himself, got Edu to phone him
Why would anyone bother to listen to dinosours like them? White is so much better than Maguire and Walker this season and tactically extreme versatile yet he is overlooked by Southgate. England does not deserve White.
Leave Ben alone pls 🙏
"When england won in berlin, dad why were'nt u there??"
"Simple son coz I dont like wasting time with idiots. Also who told u england won in berlin? Southgate was still manager of england at tht time, v didnt win anything"
The whole media is rattled over Ben White's decision, only to say he wouldn't start over Kyle Walker anyway. If he doesn't deserve a call up, we wouldn't be having this conversation. He isn't the best defender but he is Arsenal's most dependable defender, not injury prone, plays through injury, always giving a 7* performance, he could be England's too.
Say whatever, he wouldn't lose sleep over football, he treats football as his job, guy said he doesn't even watch football.
It's not his fault that he had issues with the management, just watch some of his videos, humble and stays under the radar, guy said he plays football in London when some random tiktoker ran up to him to ask questions.
So wait a minute, doesn’t talk sports have any other issue to discuss apart from this ? Now it’s becoming irritating, lad doesn’t wanna play give others a chance. With time the main reason will definitely come out. Rest !!!
Why would he play for the most hated team in the world
England win the European Championship :), not on Southgate's watch
Wish all the arsenal players refused to play. White has become my favourite player after this.
You talk complete and utter shite , its Gareth job to protect his staff /team if Ben was at spurs Harry would be saying nothing , None of you Know what the deal is so hold your words 😮😮😢
At least Ben White is being upfront saying he don’t want to be called up unlike all the others that after playing a game for their club are “injured” and withdraw from the squad only to be fighting fit when their club next has a game.
What kinda bs is this! As if it's something special to play for Southgate's England.
Obviously Winter is a renowned journalist…..but sometimes he really can chat absolute drivel
If you know anything about White and his character, you’ll know that this won’t phase him one bit. 😂
“Hey Ben, I’m picking you for the England squad, you won’t play CB as you don’t play there for your club and I see you as 4th choice RB behind walker, trippier and Trent. But I need you to sit on the bench and not take part in group drills so I don’t have to keep answering questions about you in press conferences because I don’t pick on form and have my favourites.”
The narrative being built against Ben White is really quite concerning. Many, many players have turned down England call-ups over the years, and not received the amount of vitriol from all sides that he is. Fact is, no one beyond his inner circle seem to know why White doesn't want to be called up, and Southgate is only covering himself whilst directing traffic at the defender.
It’s 2024 and ppl have the freedom of choice to be what or who they want to be and it’s accepted….a player asks to be left out of the England national team for friendlies and there is a national outrage 😂
He rejected the manager not the country.
Regret what exactly?not being selected??not winning anything??GET OVER YOURSELF…Let Southgate stick to the players he's been selecting this whole time
It makes no footballing sense for him to go until the coach changes.
Ben White seems to have complete clarity in his life where he sees football as a job and separated from his domestic life and his family who are his priority. He's described by teammates as a warrior, so his character isn't in question.
I think he gauged that he was just a backup in the squad without the chance of playing and raised it with the coaching staff who didn't handle it well, resulting in a fallout that still festers.
They seem to blame Ben White only. Who knows what was said to him by the coaching staff that riled him enough to leave the squad? He expressed how extremely proud he was to be picked for England, so something unsavoury must have taken place to make him not want to go back. Why should the door be shut based on assumptions without knowing the facts?
Gareth saying he doesn't understand is rubbish. He must know the reason but doesn't want to incriminate his coaching staff.
Leave the bloke alone
"When England won the euros in Berlin" 😂😂😂😂. This guy is on something
england will not win
Do we know why he said no?
Bens not missing nothing.. all the England players will be knackered!! And will most probably lose to Cyprus 😅😅😅