First Wind Dummies episode with guest Scott Reek!
Alright, now my audio is reading. Alright, what’s up guys? Welcome into the K to J Podcast. We are we’re going to get in some stuff today. We’re going to do our giveaway from last week. Uh we’re going to
Get in a food drive info. K to J kick off. Scott Reek is going to join us and then Smitty’s got a game for us to play tonight. So, first things first, Ronnie and Smitty, how you guys doing tonight? Doing good. Doing good, buddy. Good
To see you. There you go. Alright, let’s see this giveaway real quick. We have, my screen is not showing right. Give me one more second. Alright, so this is what we got. We’ve got what 14 names? A little bit. We’re just going to
Go to random. org and we’re going to pull a number and whoever it is gets the the the prize from last week. Which was the what? You had a Diff Smitty and a hat, right? Not a disc, yeah. Sweet One to 14 And
Generate And we got five. So that’s going to be Chase Boyd. So Chase Boyd is going to be our winner. We’ll give a Smitty on that And we’ll see what we can do to get that to you. I think Spenny knows how to get
It to coach. Here we go. I’ve seen him. Alright. Food drive info. What do you guys got? What’s our what’s our numbers from our first week? This is our first week of food drives this weekend? Uh well we started a little earlier this
Year. We started before Christmas. We are six food drives deep. Clearwater, Sharon, Dodge City, Jetmore, Inman, and Anthony have all had food drives. We’ve had 187 different rounds played and we’re already at five thousand six hundred 677. So, just just
Below 6000 already. So. It’s a good start. Pretty good chunk of change. Alright. All the way to 30K. Yeah. Our goal for the year is what? 30K. So, it’s a good really good upcoming events if we’ve got yet some
Yeah. No, I was I I was going to say I had a good time. I played a I played a food drive on Saturday. Went to Inman. Yeah. Um I think we had eighty-three players in which was really cool. Uh playing in
Groups of ten. I’ll be honest that’s the first time I’ve ever done that. Uh but but good Tim. Good time had by all man. It was a good time. That’s a that’s a course you can definitely have ten people on a
Card on. Uh coming up we got Cole Witch, Emporia, Mulvane, Miltonville, Concordia, and Manhattan. So. Correct. Lots to look forward to. If you guys are able to definitely go hit up a food drive. They’re a lot of fun. So
Dates on those on KGA website. Uh I think pretty much all of those I’ve seen advertisements for. Moving on to KDGA kick off. I know we got a little bit of an update on what’s going on with that. There’s been some
News kind of about that’s changing this year. So, Smitty, what do you got on that? Uh well, the kickoff has a has been known for the last 10 years. The event that I’ve ran either at Newton or Oak Park is
No longer. It’s out of my hands and it’s been given over to any club that like to run an event. We’re going to use it as a KDJ membership drive with the name Kickoff with some pretty cool perks we think. We’ve we
Thought long and hard about how we’re going to do this and basically there’s three entry levels. You can pay the normal $30 KDJ fee and get all the swag and everything that comes with it. You can go $15 and
Just become a member and get a membership pin. We’re going to have membership pins this year and you won’t get it. You get a sugar, a disc, On top of that, you’ll still get the meals at all of the tournaments. that we
Have those or if you’re already a member, if you played the finals last year and got a membership, you’ve already signed up this year. You can just show up to one of these events at any town, any any TD,
Any KDJ member who wants to run one, can run one and we’re just going to our goal is to have all the the swag and everything there and be able to pass that out before the the event even starts or the turn the season
Even starts. I have to chase everybody down. All year. and Ronnie, did you, do you know what the kickbacks, the clubs are? You want me to cover that? I, you cut out for a second, what’d you say? Do you want me
To talk about the kickbacks to the clubs for the? kick off or do you want to talk about it? I I I can reach out. I can do it. Uh team members. Satan coming back as a cruise course improvement fund or if you have
More than that, the KDGA is going to kick you $100 worth of course improvements. So, yeah, if you’re one of those groups, let’s get as many signed up as you can. So, we can we can send some of that cash you guys’ way
And and take care of some course improvements at the at the local clubs. What do they need to set one of these events up. What do the clubs need to do? Just get a hold of. Ask. Yep. Just send me send myself
Or any of the KJ guys a message. Any of them can get you on the schedule and work with you and get you going the right way. That would be me or Neufeld or Jason Brown, Craig, Lehe, Damon Workentine. Don’t bother Mace because it’ll never
Get done if you ask him but he’s one of the guys. Yeah, that’s awesome. That’ll be a nice little change up to get a little, maybe hopefully a few more members signed up too. So. Yeah, I think the biggest thing
Will be getting all that gear passed out at the beginning and that means put 10000 miles on it all. Yeah. So, I heard I heard that question asked when I was in Inman on Saturday. Um on the people who already
Signed up. Hey, man. When are we getting our stuff? Um so, people are already itching to get it out. So, that’ll be a great opportunity for us to to get that stuff out there. Yeah. So, we’re not. So, you’re
Passing it all out at Beloit or or the finals for for folks who haven’t got it since then. So, that’s that’s I think it’s going to be pretty beneficial for everybody. Definite Alright, are you guys ready to bring it, Scott? Let’s get
Scott in here. How’s it going today, Scott? Thanks for joining us. How you doing? Good. How are you doing? Excellent. Doing good? Doing good, Rick? How are you? I’m doing great. So, listen. Well, I get it. Go ahead. Go ahead.
For for for people who don’t know who Scott is, Scott a long, long time ago, Scott was the mace man in Smitty of the KDGA and then what you decided to go Air Force, is that correct? Yep, in 2 thousand 3,
I’ve ran the KDGA from about 97 to two thousand three. Yeah, and then two thousand you you left and you pretty much told Mace and myself and Kyle the man Klinger that we’re going to take it over and we didn’t see
You for a few years. No, yeah, then I was in the Air Force and then I moved to Wisconsin when I got out of there and then I moved to Kansas City in two thousand eleven. So, Most people, most people don’t know,
Scott. Maybe your most distinguished accomplishment ever was playing national doubles with me in Texas about 2001 or so. Yep. me and Smitty played doubles too and yeah that was long time ago. It seems like a lifetime ago, don’t it? It does. If you guys
In the comments have any questions at any time for Scott, go and throw ’em in there. One of the things we have, I see is, when is your, when and where is your next course design? And what do you, what, kind of, when did you
Start doing course design, some stuff like that, just fill us in on that. Um, I mean, I don’t know when I started, maybe about 10 years ago, it just, when you run enough or you’re involved in enough and you work with enough municipalities,
Eventually, things just start kind of going your way and you start having those conversations and you start, you know, picking director’s minds and things just kind of work out. So, probably about 10 years ago that I got this yeah, 20, 2012, I started with
Heritage Park in Olathe, Kansas and I just was at a meeting with the parks department. His son was at a tournament. I went met with him just to kind of give him the report of the tournament and they asked,
Where do you live? I told him. They’re like, really close to Heritage Park? I go, yes, right across the street. He goes, you know, we’ve had approval for 10 years to put that course in within 48 hours, I had at least
A layout drawn, you know, out and at that time, I really didn’t know and like the official part, I mean, I played hundreds of couple hundred very involved but I hadn’t thought of it from a tournament direct or a course design aspect and
So I did that and it took me four years because knowing that it’s going to be one of my first bigger ones. I just nitpicked the heck out of it and had dozens of people come and look at it and even to this
Day, I just was out there yesterday. There’s four new four holes that I’ve decided just aren’t right yet. So, anyway, since then, I’ve got about seven or eight and under my belt. Um I’m currently working on a new course in
DeSoto at Lexington Lake Park. Um which is a nice course with an 18-hole configuration. So, you go around not once, playing one set of everything and then you go around again. You play another set. Um but the big project that I’m working on is
Shawnee Mission Park. I’m doing a full redesign for Shawnee Mission Park. So, for those who’ve been familiar, Shawnee Mission Park and Shawnee, Kansas has been around for over 20 years. It’s a big staple in Kansas City and that one is
Basically taking on a full redesign like as if we pulled it out of the ground and then I started all over from scratch. That would be a pretty concept though. It’s going to be a 36 hole course with four loops of
Nine. So, where the current course starts, it’s there will be four hole ones and it’ll basically with four loops of nine will give you six configurations eighteen to be able to play from two really long courses to about a 3
Twenty-five course to around a junior course like a 200-foot layout but it’ll give a lot of configuration, a lot of changes, utilizing the trees, a lot of trees have been taken out in that course over the years and just due to mother
And Beatles and stuff like that. So, yeah, that’s probably when I get done with DeSoto, which will be this year, Shawnee Mission will start and that’s about a three-year project to work on that. So, and then, I got a another one
In Edgerton on a winery, on a vineyard. That’ll be a private course. Pretty excited about that one. Not actually plays with the vineyard. So, during the summer, I think they’re going to lose a lot of money because literally when you’re walking through, there’s this
Huge vine of grapes. So, I just fully picture people. Taking grapes with them playing on their own. So, but that’s what I currently have. I’ve got two other ones that artificial yet but they’re in the works that I think will happen but so, but
The Shawnee mission is the big next bigger one that I think people will recognize and be aware of. So, sounds busy. Sounds very busy. Scott from a from a course designer’s perspective. Um tell me your thoughts on on on doing
Something like that where you got nine hole configurations as opposed to trying to put eighteen where it may not fit or something like that. Um because I noticed a lot. I think there’s a lot of maybe some mistakes made there where
People try to put eighteen where they probably shouldn’t where they don’t have room and they’re not able to to build the course they they maybe could if they only put nine or say 12 holes. What are your thoughts on on that kind of
Stuff? Well I mean I think safety first. So, a lot of times what I find is in when a course comes in, I went and looked at a property earlier this year where they were on about a 15-acre property. For
Those who don’t know, when I look at it, I, for the most part, I can about an acre a whole, a square acre is about three hundred and 125 feet. So get depending on how that flows. An acre hole, give or
Take. I mean, it definitely varies depending on what else is in but like on that fifteen-acre property, they had a creek that ran right down the middle of it. There was a huge playground right in the middle of it and it was probably only
The whole park was like 300 feet wide. So, to go through that 15 acres, not only have a creek going down the middle but I also had a playground going down the middle and the park kind of questioned many times,
Well, why can’t I put 18 in and I basically told them well. I can but they’re all going to be 100 foot holes and you’re going to have a thousand foot walk to get to the the backside. So, it really just
Depends on the area and the one in DeSoto, the ones where I kind of looked at that was, it’s actually only about 11 acres but it’s totally isolated. So, I can’t put eighteen in there without making it extremely short but
On those 11 acres, I have three and 400 foot holes and then the idea is I can have the one set of nine pads but then when I put the baskets in, I can totally change the layout. So, instead of just having a short
Pad and a long or pin and a long pin, I can make a full lefty route, a righty route. I can make it. So, when you go to the pad, they’re two totally different shots and that’s my my preference is if you don’t
Have enough land, make nine holes and then just try to configure the shots. So, they’re different. Um even if it’s a nine hole, you know, open field. I think you can or maybe not open field but lot less trees. This specific one
In DeSoto is pretty heavily wooded. So, it gives me the ability to really carve lines but if it is open, I think you just change your shots. I think better to put multiple baskets in a shorter location and make
Nine holes than it is to try to squeeze 18 holes that is either just going to be really short or unsafe or not as fun. Interesting. I was I was one I was just wanting your your thoughts on something like that. Yeah. You know every
Course designer mean even Smitty you might have different opinions or different ideas but I don’t really I think as long as they’re safe I don’t necessarily think they’re wrong. I just. Sure. Safety a big one and I’ve seen too many
Courses where a T pad is, you know, 10 feet from the basket. As an example, you know, just because it’s kind of even going to Frontier, the original layout at, you know, haze. Some of those bath pads are right on
The baskets and they had more than enough room, you know, to spread that out but when they created it, that was just the way they did it. So. Well, you couldn’t throw to the, you couldn’t throw all the way to
The pin when they created that baby. So. Yeah. That’s dope. That that. Well, yeah. Muscles. Yeah. I got a question for you. Um even way back when you were in charge of the KDGA it seemed like we always and at one
Point, didn’t you live in Topeka also? Yep, I started it in Topeka. Well, I started in Hays and then I was in Topeka. I was in Topeka when I joined the military. Yeah, it seems like we’ve always had a really hard time getting people much
Farther east of Salina, maybe Manhattan at the the farthest point. We’ve had a really hard time getting members east of that area and a lot of times they say it’s because of a lack of tournaments but what what do you think it would take to
Expand that way? Katie Jwise. Or is there a need to do that? I just think you need to have somebody that is supportive of it and starts educating people about about it. I think, you know, I’m running this one in Bonner Springs and the few
People I’ve talked to think KDGA is an acronym like the PDGA because it says, Super Sunday KDGA Flex Start and I had like three people saying, you misspelled PDGA. You know, kind of because they don’t know. So, I go, no, that’s the
Kansas Disc Golf Association and well, what is that? So, I think there’s just some education. In the Kansas City area, the KCK area, there’s such a big market already. I mean, it’s already its own world in there. So, a lot of
People, I just don’t feel like those guys don’t need to leave Kansas City to go out but even from like me, when I look at going and I have the history and knowledge, I mean, it takes me an hour and a half to get to
Emporia. It takes me three hours to get to Wichita. You know, and so, Wi which is the main one is now you’re starting to talk about just longer trips and probably not for me because I travel but for I think for
Your everyday player, you just start to get further away. I think a lot of it’s just educating people and it’s starting to get some events over here. Um you know, I think the Bonner Springs is a a good start. Um I haven’t shared it
With you, Smitty yet but I actually have it on my schedule. I’m trying. I’m trying to reach out to like Ottawa And seeing him maybe can do a KDGA event out of Ottawa. You know, so we’re kind of getting closer between Kansas
City and Emporia and I know I’d like to do a little bit more. Um I’ve been doing PDJ and stuff for so long that I’ve been trying to change my focus a little bit. And trying to help a little bit more with the
KDGA which is again why I’m doing the food drive. So maybe even that’s the start. Maybe we can start educating and you know over the next couple of years, even if there’s just one more of this direction, people start to learn and identify the
Values of it. but I think it’s just education. I just don’t think people know. Yeah, I think way back when, if, Sundance wouldn’t have ran a tournament and ransom, you know, probably what, ninety-eight, ninety9, somewhere in there and all you
Guys invaded this town of 300 people. I mean, I remember Harvey Barger was there and Ron Cahn came all the way from Oklahoma and then I was there. Yeah, I’m sure you were. Probably so. And I think Sandman had just come off of a
Pretty solid finish at Advanced Worlds and you know, that’s what everybody’s talking about. Sandman, that guy, oh, this is his first pro tour and I was like, whoa, that guy. So, I mean, if I don’t, if it would have never come across my path
There, I probably wouldn’t have gotten. Yeah, but I used to run him in Topeka. I mean, when I lived in Topeka, I I ran an event there and I feel like it was pretty well attended. You know, Topeka and we used to do
Like in and you know, a few more up kind of up in those areas and I feel like there was a little bit more presence towards that direction. you know, at least going up to Topeka, you know, maybe not to
The Kansas City. I, not to say Kansas City can’t be done. I just think it’s harder because it’s such a, it’s own world. But I’d like to be a part of that and I think, again, it’s just educating people. what was your initial
Involvement in the KDGA I guess, is what I want to know because as somebody who just kind of came around in the past probably eight years in the KDJ I don’t know a lot about the history the the origination of
It so I’m kind of curious if you were around for some of that or kind of things like that. Um well, I started in ninety-five. It’s probably about 96 is when I started with the KDGA and at that time, Harvey Barger was pretty much
Spearheading everything and he had run it for, I don’t know, five or so years maybe a little bit more than that at that point. Um and he’s just he was very old school. And even in the mid 90s I was probably a
Little bit more technological. You know so there was things like he was still typing out newsletters. And you know those kind of things like that. And I wanted to be involved. I knew almost as soon as I discovered
Disc golf I knew I wanted to be involved. And so I reached out to Harvey. I was like hey what can I do to help? And yeah he’s like you want to take on the newsletter. So, I did the newsletter and then, it just
Kind of gradually increased where I took on roles and then, like I said, a year or so later, I just asked Harvey just like, you know, would it be better? Would you like me to run this and take this over?
And he was very, yeah, yeah, you know, and he supported me for a few years. Well, I learned it but then, I kind of transitioned and took over running it and we created, you know, Mace was, even, Mace there before I was as a
Supporter and a tournament director like The Rock and I always give a lot of credit that I learned a lot of what I initially started from not only Mace Man but Dennis Walshaltz. You know, so those are the kind
Of the two that I give credit to to learn to where I’ve gotten and I remember just talking to them and creating new things and at that time, the Kansas State Championships was what we have as the finals now. Beloit was just the
Chautauqua some name tournament but it was kind of same style what we have now but it wasn’t the state championships. Um and then we moved the state championships over to Boyd as more of a mid-season as part of the club where we have the you
Know the food and the camping and the experience and so with the helps of Mason different people. You know we just kind of transitioned and made those changes into the club. Me and Kyle, Klinger. I’m totally blanked out for a second. Then,
We decided we need to create the website and that was Kyle’s skill set and so, me and him kind of spearheaded and created the Kansas Disc Golf. com website. Um from there and then, we needed a logo. I work
With a guy who created the logo for the Little Apple Open back in the late 90s and we transitioned that logo to what we have as the wheat logo. Now, with the KDGA. So, kind of just lot of little things like that.
It was really out of time when I think we were growing and kind of creating the Kansas Disc Golf Association identity where prior to that it was, you know, no offense to those guys, but it was just a group of those guys who created the
Association, but it was fun for them, and it still was fun, but we, I think we kind of took it to the next step of being more official as an organization, and then after I left, Smitty, you know, Smitty and Brandon
And and his crew, because even when I did it, I had the advice and help people, but I pretty much did most everything still. I was still a one-man and then now that when I handed it over, you guys created it into more
Of an organization, you know, so to speak with people helping and I know that’s taken years, even though I haven’t been around for a lot of that, I still was watching and seeing how things were going, and remember even visiting Smitty a
Couple times when I was passing through town and, you know, kind of catching up and learning about things, so, but yeah, it’s kind of how I got this. Started and continued our you know, where my history with the KDGA is at. us old guys
Know the fun of the KDGA forum. Yeah. Yeah. The forum. the high jinx that went on there. Yep. Facebook before Facebook. Yep and that was at that time it was the only way to let people know and people don’t appreciate you know now when
You look at tournaments and you go to disc golf scene. Even now you could go to disc golf scene or and look at a big chunk of the year of tournaments and people are already starting to get those registered. You know
Prior to the website you had to go to the tournament. Look for a table. They had a whole bunch of clipboards. Mhm. Or a little clippies. Yeah. Everybody had to bring their tournament registrations. And put them on the table you walk around and
Grabbed all those sheets to figure out what your next tournaments were. And then maybe you mailed a check in but more than likely you just showed up to the tournament. And it’s crazy to think because I don’t remember once a tournament turning people away.
I remember a great tournaments but I don’t remember and I feel like so makes me think they couldn’t have ever really exceeded 90 people. Cuz I was just going to say did you have did he did either you guys ever remember a tournament filling?
No. Back in the day like that wasn’t a that wasn’t a thing. Nope but it seemed like there was always a lot of people there. You know so I don’t know that lot really was but yeah, you just showed up. Maybe you
Mailed a check in but I remember, I mean, when I was running tournaments or I still run tournaments but when I was running a lot of the KDGA events, yeah, I mean, I didn’t get very many checks. You know, people mailing things in for
The most part. It was on site. Yeah. Um but it nobody thought anything of it. It was just the way it was and it was worked. You know, now you gotta register six months in advance. You know. Yeah. I’ve already
Put out like $600 in entry fees this year. Cool. Real. Game time? Yeah. Do we want to ask? I think we have one more thing. Um did we ask Scott what his favorite KDGA memory was? No, no, it didn’t. Let’s hear it. Oh, Man, my
Favorite KDGA memory? Oh, yeah. I don’t know if this is, I’ll tell this story So, Smitty was talking about ransom. I I’m pretty sure it was Smitty’s first round in a PDGA tournament. I was playing with him and he threw to the wrong
Basket. And ransom. I remember that. So, that’s just always my memory of him. Um probably one of my favorite things that I always enjoyed was we used to have a tournament in Stockton And it was a it was Harvey called it. It was called like
The not the prison open. It was some weird name but the baskets were makeshift, really crummy baskets and it just it was had such a different feel than a lot of other tournaments. It was just a good time and for some reason, that one has
Always stuck out to me over the years. When I go back and look at the schedule, I, you know, Stockton hasn’t been running a many, many years, but I always remembered that one, so that one’s stuck, has always stuck
Out to me, so I would say the old Stockton Tournaments, and it also combines Stockton combined a lot with for years that changed, but it was a weekend where we went to Russell, or we went to Beloit. So you kind of made a big
Weekend out of it. Uh so, yeah, I’ve always enjoyed that. I wonder if those baskets, so to say, you’re still in that park at Stockton. Yeah, I don’t know. I haven’t been that way in a long time. And yeah, they
Were, they were bad. And I grew up and I went to high school in Phillipsburg. So, and I haven’t even been back there. Like, I, I haven’t even seen that course that’s there. But every time I think about going there, from here, I wouldn’t necessarily
Have to go through Stockton, but I thought like, I need to go out of my way and. Yeah, get man. Stockton and you know but I was there’s a lot of memories. I mean, back in those days, I always loved going to
Norton, you know, Mordecai always ran a good big tournament even though it was kind of far away especially from Topeka. I always just had a really good time but actually, so, it did occur to me. My biggest memory was and I
Don’t remember what year exactly it was. See, my daughter’s probably two thousand 1. Harvey Barger had a sister who lived in Key West and own some resor and he offered that year as a sponsorship. Any player that made all, I think it was like
Forty-five tournaments that year. Um it was up there. Got a free all-expense paid trip to go there. And me and Ron Convert were the only two that made it. But I remember for the Kobe tournament. This was, you
Know, I was 21 years old at the time. You know, I already had a kid and my wife was pregnant with kids. So, finances weren’t as good and I got to Kobe. It’s towards the end of the season and I didn’t think I was
Going to be able to afford to make it and I can’t remember his last name. John something but he was from Kobe. And him and Kyle and him and I feel like even Mace might have been involved. They all went out of
Their way. Like he came through he lived in Kansas City. He came through Topeka. Picked me up. They covered everything just so I didn’t miss that tournament. John Schindler. Yeah Schindler. And then yeah so me Ron and Harvey and our
Spouses all went to Key West for like seven days and that was probably one of my biggest memories And then I think at the time I had like the record for the most consecutive and I think I got to like 60
Something KDJ events in a row. That’s incredible. Yep. Um that was at a time when yeah. I was playing a lot back in those days but I wasn’t playing. I wouldn’t play that many. But not only I make that. I mean I
Had to make all those ones that one year but the year before then the year after I was also running a lot of those events. Right. So. Yeah. I kind of was forced. It wasn’t like I was necessarily traveling just to
Play it. It’s I was to be there and so yeah. Darren did say those baskets are still there in Stockton so. Yeah. Have you ever played there? Never even been. Well, you’re missing out. Yeah, it is. Yeah, you just
Kind of like, what the heck are we doing here? Did you ever run? Ronnie, did you ever play on the tire baskets at Pratt? Yeah. They’re way better than what Stockton had. I watched Rock. There you go. There’s a there’s a memory for you. I
Watched Converse 1 year. Uh ace that uphill hole to that tire basket. Three? Yeah. Well, Shorty played straight up the hill. That thing, you could like, you could just envision from the tee. Of course, you can’t see it because it’s
Uphill but you can just division how many times that disc must have circled that tire before it finally stated that in that basket. Yeah, those have those haven’t even gone that long, I don’t think. Well, there they’re actually back in the ground. I do
Believe in Greensburg. Really? Oh. You know what? I think so. I think maybe you were telling me that. I might have to check that. I know they have a track in Greensburg. Yeah, I think I think that’s the baskets that
Are in there. I think Winkle saved them from the trash or something. I don’t know. So. Wow. Somebody’s mentioned the baskets at Clay Center. I don’t know if you guys ever go through Clay Center or seen those baskets. I’ve never
Played on em but I I’ve a lot for work and I’ve seen them and they don’t look, they don’t look good. Yep, somebody says they’re in Greensburg. So, yes, pretty cool. Let’s do this game. Let’s do this game. Yeah.
You got it man. You you run the show. Alright. Well, I’ll tell you, there’s 17 unique names on this trophy here. This is the the Beloit trophy and you guys aren’t going to be able to look at the chat and cheat. Alright, you dirty dogs.
No cheaters. In the chat. Yeah, no cheaters. Well, they can do whatever they want. You guys can’t cheat. And all I need is I need you to name a player that you think is on there and what do you think? Three
Strikes you’re out? Fair. Yeah. Alright. This is for the boys tournament or Beloit state championships trophy? Yeah. Well, yeah, the the actual trophy is the D and K individual Frisbee Golf Tournament Champion Traveling Trophy. How far back does it
Go? All the way back to 1991. Okay. So, Gerber, you’re screwed. But I don’t think we’re working at Gerber right now. I can’t get some of that. No way. You might. Well, you just got, you just gotta name one. So, what we’ll do is I’ll
My, on my computer, they go, Ronnie, Scott, Gerber. So, we’ll just go in that order. Ronnie will go first and we’ll see if we can eliminate somebody and if Ronnie misses, he gets a strike and. Save me some easy ones. Whoever strikes
Out last wins. Fair. How about Jer Chris Jared Crist, yes. Last year, Scott, Harvey Barger. You got it. Wrong tone. That would have been Ron Con. Only seven times. Ronnie Um did you go? Uh Chris Smith. Sorry I didn’t hear
Gerber go. Chris Smith has won it. Um Bill Paulsen. You got it. That was a shocker to me. See, I’m already struggling. That was in ninety3 when Paulsen won it. I have a AJ Cruz on there? That big-headed fool has never went
To Deloitte. Strike one. I’m I’m going to be the first one out. I’m going to do I take the obvious ones or I try to try to stab? Uh, how about Clint Donaldson? First one, first name on the trophy. Ninety-one. Uh, Volschaltz, Dennis. That
Would be incorrect, sir. Ugh Gerber, come on dude. I’m today. There’s there’s so many people that you have to know. I know I should know. Bottom on there, Darren? There you go. Strike two. I’m getting out early. Yeah, you are. How about
Ronnie? Where? Kingpin. Kristen Caraska. Yup. Two tags. Oh my god. Two time. Two-time winner. Uh what about Chad Garrison? That’s one way. We, yes, Garrison is on there, 2000. Uh we’re Oh, no. So, I got one more. Wiggins on there? Wiggins
Is on there. Yes, there we go. I’m back. Is Ronnie gone? Yeah, I’m going to try to figure out where he went Uh huh. What about Rich Rich Rich? Dave Richardson? Yeah. No chance in hell. I didn’t figure. He just was old but
Maybe he was there before. It was a lot of really good players. No, there’s, I’m telling you guys, there’s a lot of really good players still on this list. Guys, you’re going to just be like, you’re going to be like, oh my god. I
Can’t believe I didn’t. Are you there? No, you’re not. Man. Just think of it. Good. Good golfers in Kansas. is one of the motions on this, Adam on there? Dude, no way. Oh, come on McCabe. Twice. Oh man dude. Ronnie said his computer blew
Up. Dang it. McCabe is on there. I already got three strikes, right? There’s one from Celina. Maybe the best disc golfer in Salina. Oh, of all time. Randy Brown. Downtown Randy Brown. There’s a couple from up in your neck of the woods there,
Scotty Boy And I’m trying to think and then my neck of the woods whose who live Um Bruce Hudson. You got it. That’s one of them. Lazo take one down? That would have been a good guess though. Yeah, he’s been close.
There’s another one. Oh, how how baby’s not on here? Okay. Nope. Oh, I got one on the tip of my tongue. I can’t think of his last name. Is he a lawyer? Or is he maybe really really slow? Maybe he’s a flicker in
Pretty modern era. I don’t know if I know that guy. Guys give up. Favid duh. Yes. Oh. Um I try to think of his name. Um Emac had a roommate that was really good. Played a lot of tournaments. Nate Martin? Yeah. Nope. Never
Wanted. Ah. I think I’m out of gases. Here we go. How many do we miss? Uh you’re missing one, two, three, four, five and one of em, one of em I feel like you should get. One of em is on the board.
I saw it. So, I know you guys aren’t peeking. Uh well, the book, two of them are. Nate Alton. One in 22020 Allen Wilson. Yeah. He didn’t come the last time I was there. The sloth? Yeah. And I was I
Was shocked that you didn’t get this one Scott. Jazzy? Yeah, Jeff, right? Man. Yup. That’s that’s old school there. Yeah. Dave Stubbs. Matter of fact, Jeff won it when I ran it. Now, that you just said that. It’s like Kai. So, we got Dave
Stubbs and then the only one that you didn’t get and Yeah, right. This guy’s. Oh, hey, Ronnie. So, we got Dave Stokes and then the. Oh, he is. He’s listening. This guy’s. You there? Really? I think I may have lost the who was the last
One? I’m waiting for Ryan. I think I may have lost a cooling fan on my laptop. Sorry, guys. Ron Rice. Oh, yeah. Ninetytwo. Okay. You know, it’s funny. So, like I said, I started playing around ninety-five and even at that point, I’ve seen run, play
More in the last couple years. Than I ever remember him playing back then. He just ran haze. That’s what I remember. Yep. Yeah. Yep. We got we got 12 out of 17. I woulda got all of these for the record. I I
Know. I was pretty bubbly. Cuz I know because I know I woulda got most of them. I’m just disappointed by Jeff because I said I didn’t even that was in Wichita when it was still the finale state championship. And
Yeah I think about when I ran it. I, I, I, I know because the, the reason I know most of ’em is ‘cuz the T-shirt, they, they had all the winners on the T-shirt, either last year, the, was it last year or was the
Year before? Last year. Mm. And they haven’t had the disc with a stamp on it too. Damn, sure. I know one day. Nebraska’s championship now. So, we can start a new trophy. At least three of the four, four of us can.
Calm down. Smitty Smitty’s moving up into the really old guys division this year, Scott. Ooh. Yeah. I’m only 47 but I remember when I turned forty-five, my first thought was, now, for the rest of my life, every five years is a new
Division. Yeah. Well, the funny thing about that is people are always so excited. You know, oh yeah, 50s. It’s it’s the same dudes who’ve kicked your butt the whole time are going to still kick your butt. You know what I’m saying? They don’t
Realize this. we’re all getting older at the same at the same speed. Yeah. However, when you compare it to life, I remember when my wife turned 40, you know, and she was so frustrated about turning forty. Now, I’m trying to sympathize with her
And trying to, you know, be a good husband. She’s like, wait til you turn forty. I go, I turn 40 in July and by then, I’ll have been happy for 7 months. And then now it’s like I’m three years from fifty and
I’m like countdown. But you’re right. It’s same people. All the same people. I mean maybe there’s a few years. You know like that people get ahead of me but at some point they all catch up and you’re competing against the same people. If I
Play if I play pro worlds I’ll have to play against Johnny McCray, Brian Schwayberger. Yeah. Um Patrick Brown. Barry. Got guy named Barry Schultz. Yep. So Well, this year, I’m, you know, I’m going to go play Pro Worlds this year, Masters
And some young buck from Minnesota named Kayla Viska decided to turn 40 this year. So. Yup. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, some of those guys if they would just you know, Avery and they just haven’t wanted to go that route yet but if they ever
Did, it’s a whole another stack of people. Yep. I just stayed in MA 40. I may try it But you know even an MA 40 is like I still can’t beat anybody. Uh one thing we kind of skipped over the beginning, we got the
Name for the show. Do you want to. Oh. Uh the who who came up with that name? We went we went with OzTalk with the Win Dummies. We know who came up with that one? I don’t know but I know who the Win Dummies
Are. Uh so so yeah there was a bunch of people that had so it was a bunch of variations that were suggested and a lot of them it was the KGA KDGA talk or Oz Talk or Oz Cha or or something like that. So, and
And and I suggested the wind dummies because it kind of fit all three of our personalities, right? We’re none of the, we’re none of the smartest people on the planet. So, so we kind of, Smitty decided, let’s combine the two and there we have it.
And again, the winner on that giveaway, Chase Boyd. So, if you weren’t watching the beginning, now you know who won the giveaway The disc and the hat. Next week, sorry, next month’s giveaway. Next month’s giveaway. What are we going to
Do? What’s the criteria? What do we need? Tags, tags, and people. Tags are the same thing. I like this thing and and tag a couple people and let let’s get as many people checking this out as we can. Uh next month,
You’ll give you a little a little preview for next month. We’re going to have the reigning KDGA champion as our special guest next month, mister Jordan Schaefer will be will be joining us. Thank you. Yep. Awesome. So. Alright, boys. Well, I think that’s it
For me. Scott, thanks for stopping by. Thank you, Scott. Anytime, guys. Stay coming tonight. Hopefully, I’ll see a few more of you more this year so. Yeah, hopefully. Hopefully. So. Thanks, guys. Thanks for watching guys and we’ll see you again next
