Marching into March – 3/6/24 – Ep. 344

We dive into 15 conference tournaments on this week’s pod: ASUN, A East, Horizon, Patriot, OVC, NEC, MVC, Big South, Sun Belt, Summit, Big Sky, Southland, WCC, CAA, & SoCon.

We’ll also talk about what we saw the past week and catch you up on some news & notes.

The Rundown:
0:00 – Intro
3:14 – Root’s Roundup (News & Notes)
16:40 – Weave Saw That (ASUN & more)
33:00 – Conference Tournament Previews
1:20:25 – Reviews

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And welcome to the thre man weave college basketball podcast yes it is finally march on this lovely podcast March 6th in fact that’s right fellas last time we podcasted it was February now it’s March hello out there for people that are watching us on YouTube you can see our lovely faces hey

Check out our Channel if you’re listening to us on the podcast platforms through man weave on YouTube just go Google it I think you can find it pretty easily uh subscribe like the channnel all that good stuff we’re bringing you conference tournament previews this week Conference tournament previews next week

And of course catching you up on news and notes and college basketball in general but first Matthew hello how are you back in Chicago Mr man what’s up back in the lab back in the HQ yeah feels back got the uh got the gear three monitor shed up it’s pretty Shick uh and

Got the double monitor TV here so yeah pretty excited about it good to be back Jimbo um I missed my routine work Cube here so um I’m operating at full capacity I think you’ll see my podcasting quality improve going forward I can’t wait Matthew I was wondering how

Long you’re gonna do that voice I couldn’t tell if it was gonna last the entire episode or what thought about it um yeah I am back to Chicago tonight we’ll be back in my own lab home base setup for at least until March Madness starts so yeah Kai it’s time to hit on

All cylinders you mentioned it is March it is March we have made it uh if today was in the year 2009 it would be 369 yay fun cool cool date uh let’s talk Hoops let’s do it let’s do it indeed Jim uh yes good show today Roots Roundup gets

Us started of course little catch up for the happenings in college basketball for you a little weave saw that we’ve had the ason kickoff already this uh this tournament season and no thre man thoughts today we’re going to get right into Conference tournament previews talking 15 conference tournaments today

And then we will talk the rest next week we on next week’s podcast and of course reviews have been moved to the end of the podcast we have a lot of reviews almost all positive one uh oh one one star review again this one appears directed at gy which it’s interesting uh

Stay tuned for that one it’s a doozy strange another strange one I’ll say the egos are shattered yes absolutely in shambles right now I’m hurting today I’m dragging down the organization Kai I gota be better podcasting hurt podcasting hurt yes we are in uh whatever anyways uh three men weave you

Can find us on Twitter and Instagram 3mw CBB please leave reviews on iTunes that’d be fantastic we will read them on air at the end of the show any questions you have in those reviews all good best bet show it’s back if you haven’t noticed we are back on a daily almost

Daily basis uh Thursday we’re back at 9:00 a.m. same channel Saturday 10: a.m. same channel we will announce our conference tournament schedule for the following week we might do it on a different Cadence but we will let you guys know out there okay that does it for housekeeping Jim let’s get into

Roots Roundup and some news and notes okay let’s do it let’s do it let’s talk news and notes Here Roots Round Up of course catch you up on any happenings in the last week of college basketball key headline the players at Dartmouth voted to advertisement first J well

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Have voted to unionize 13 to2 all 15 players voted all kind of ramifications some intended what nerds it’s funny I was going to make the same jab but we just did a CBB analytics ad rate so I think you kind of have to look in the

Mirror for kind of kind of like pot Kell situation there I I’m with you but you know let look at word yeah I I was I think one of the replies was will the university fire the players that went five and 22 I mean maybe I don’t know if

They’re employees they’re will employees at this point so you have to perform to continue to keep your job uh yeah all kinds of trickle down effects of this some intended some definitely unintended that we don’t even know about yet um the age of collective bargaining for teams

And athletes against the school is well on its way could certainly shake the tectonic plates of college hoops and college sports as we know it we will put our heads in the sand and pretend that’s not happening and continue about business as usual unless Kai you have something found to add about the

Storyline apparently this this particular case will apply to just private colleges uh for now but apparently there is a USC Athletics similar case that would apply to every single level of College athletics uh if you make athletes employees I think a lot of college sports might go bye-bye that’s that’s my

My take but here we are Jim whoa Armageddon Miss Kyle Armageddon over here could be here here’s the silver lineing in all this guys is when you have an eventual strike of a team full of Union unionized players the scab replacement players there you go open try out for students

Dartmouth just finds Five Guys off I mean there’s good to come of this guys look if you dig real deep into the mush and the SLO you can find some good some some upside big picture jum this is yeah Matt back in his home lab suddenly is

Silver lining we love it happy to see happier yeah or Ros everything positive sunshine and rainbows for Mias Cox there uh not sunshine and rainbows for several coaches who have been fired already been Let Go by their respective schools we’ll start out west in the WCC where the twofer of Pacific and Pepperdine

P both fired their coaches Leonard Perry Lorenzo RAR kind of altogether unexpected certainly both have underperformed expectations at their respective schools going to be a race to whoever gets to coach in Mal following RAR one of the most gorgeous campuses out there um I don’t even have

A take on who these who might get these jobs it’s just um I guess sad we we know what to expect from both these teams under these coaches now we’ve got to figure out new new regimes yeah both tough jobs I want to say as long as

Gonzaga and St Mar’s are still there they feel like tough jobs haven’t they really haven’t been relevant in a long time either School Washington State and Oregon State coming to town right conf better it’s Oregon State feels like a WCC caliber team um and Washington State usually does but this year they’re just

Awesome Pepperdine not in as cool of a location as You’ think hot take it’s like it’s a little too secluded I I I was just there year ago you’ve never been there stop sh listen I have been there have Kai has not been there I I

Know I’ve been to the campus it’s like Jim it’s all like a lofted hill it’s very secluded it feels like it’s like a White Lotus situation I don’t do you know what I’m talking about though it’s just sort of like you’re so far away that’s bad it’s just like a really I

Don’t know you’re not buy anything it’s cool you’re right by the beach it’s beautiful the view is ridiculous um I would struggle to play basket like I don’t know got little Eerie Vibes up there I know that take will not be resp it is a strict School

Drinking wise party-wise not not a not a party school which is strange I don’t think it’d be that fun know we know Matt and California geography are always spoton so he’s he’s digging in on always learning though always learning other other coaches like Anthony Boone C Arkansas John Smith at calp and Matt

Kensaw at iupi it’ll no longer be uppi for whoever takes over Matt I can’t imagine you’re surprised by any of these three no excited about the ipui page turn it’s just a program I like and want to be good I mean it’s just it’s almost in too

Good of a location like your competition is too stiff even though you have a pretty hot P of talent there and your lital backyard Kai and Ron Hunter maybe Ron Hunter comes back to naptown if T Lane’s ad goes completely off his rocker or off her rocker and toss his Hunter no

Yeah it’s it’s a cool opportunity for a new coach I hope they go with someone uh local I guess like a D2 guy or something IU Indianapolis get ready that’s the that’s a terrible name terrible name for the school yeah no that doesn’t get me excited but I mean it’s probably tough

Selling 18y olds on a place called ooie puie yeah that’s you could just think of a name just think of a name name it yeah name it Duke think of a name Duke North we’re also named Duke okay all right deal with it well played but we do have

A hiring to report Old Dominion just hired Mike Jones not the Mike Jones that is at UNC Greensboro this is the Mike Jones former assistant at Maryland and I believed to Matha High School Big Time High School Powerhouse there I think they’re hoping to cash in on some of the

Recruiting connections that Mr Jones has wonder if Marin’s recruiting dips at all but they did just pick up Derek Queen so maybe not worried about that uh and then promotions Matthew I know you’re excited about Mr sa nimley at Charleston Southern having the interim tag removed taking over from Barkley

Raab Charleston Southern not in the southern part of Charleston there’s your fun fact yeah weird um I read that I think trilly mentioned it’s a very undesirable job like many people I think just didn’t even want to take a phone call because they have very little funding and very little nil but man

Charleston guys I think we’re fans of the city I think it’s for a a assistant looking for a D1 you know quasa promotion depending what the the price tag is I feel like you got to just take that no well somebody that’s throwing Malibu under the bus and now he’s

Talking up Charleston Southern which is not in Charleston really it’s like north of the city yeah fine Fair Point fair point but congrats to San his gig I’m I’m glad he has the fulltime they played much better down the stretch and I hope he enjoys his time there and wins lots

Of games yes indeed um transfers we do have Houston mlet hitting the portal from Pepperdine this is basically a Kai King Theoden voice So It Begins transfer season is here portal season is here mallette’s coach obviously fired just mentioned in the previous segment we’re going to have a Cascade of names we’re

Probably not going to cover each one of them as they come into the portal through the NCA tournament we are going to focus on the ball on the court we’ll catch up with all of that in April after the big dance and give you a nice transfer portal breakdown so don’t worry

Even if you feel behind when it initially hits like a wave we will we’ll catch you up injuries to mention guys we thought Kevin mcculler might be like sideline for the year and and struggle and never be the same Matthew he’s averaging 24 and three with two and a half steals a

Game and his two games back he looks just fine Kansas looks just fine with him back in the lineup yeah uh they beat K State so badly that the handshake lineup became a whole thing so yeah ku’s fine right I feel like B self is a really good evil

Uh wizard where when you least expect him to do well or when you doubt him he he has a way of kind of rising up and obviously Muller with the kind of shocking Health turn based on what we had read earlier not surprising Kai what happened your beers your thoughts what

Happened in the handshake line Jerome Tang didn’t shake their hands afterward is that right Jim Bill self took took some slight exception to catch this not very not very Christian drum let me gather the uh the the transcript here but yeah there was a little bit of a he

Goes when we kick their ass or when they kicked our ass uh we we shook their hands but apparently there’s no way he said ass he said let me find it bot we kicked their bottoms I think he said butts that sounds right that sounds much better buttcks yeah um okay couple other

Injuries Tyler kak has an oblique issue from Marquette and I just want to give my heartfelt thoughts and condolences to Marquette considering he got hurt last year and cl them against Michigan State we don’t know if he’ll be back they say they’re going to you know reevaluate him

Before the Big East tournament I’ve heard some pessimistic whisperings Kai it’s just a bummer super fun player to watch Marquette a super fun offense to watch when he’s out there doing tag team pick and roll stuff with igodo might not get to see that hopefully he’s back in time for the big

Dance yeah second straight year right wasn’t he out for last tournament too just blows yeah he played it was like through an ankle injury or something he was not he was a shell of himself yep these late late season injuries going into March guys are the worst let’s

Let’s avoid it let’s avoid it if we can’t yep yep and Kai our 200 to1 dayon ticket might be flushed down the toilet already Javon Bennett could be out for the year for Dayton he’s got a thumb issue he’s goingon to be seeing Specialists through the end of this week

Getting second and third and fourth opinions kywi one hate thumb injuries because they suck and are painful and two hate a team losing their backup point guard when the starter is already out for the season uh Bennett’s been really really good filling that role uh Dayton basic down to five players now it

Sucks Jim I thought we had a really good price and we did we did they were projected like a four seed and we grabbed it so it was a good bet without benett they’re in trouble I I probably get a choosing to lose first round as a

As a six seed yeah that seems about right fair enough all right moving on no suspensions no dismissals Matthew is mum’s the word for Matthew but Kai has a Reddit stat of the day a Reddit stat of the day for weather ninja the username for Reddit uh this particular post

Isaiah Kart guys Eastern Kentucky big man a shame they lost by the way boohoo for the colonels uh some shot blocking facts if you’re not aware of Isaiah Kart he is a shot blocking uh God in college basketball he averaged 3.87 blocks per game this year that’s nearly one full block more than

Any other player in the country he is the shortest player in the top 15 of blocks per game 6’7 he has a 7-1 wingspan if you’re wondering there at home why he’s blocking so many shots that’s the answer by himself he would rank around 110th in blocks per game for

Entire teams across the country this season he out blocked every single a sun team except for Kennesaw State and he is now the all-time leaders excuse me the all-time block leader at Eastern Kentucky and in the ason conference despite playing just two years for EKU incredible stuff Isaiah Kart yeah absolutely ridiculous we’re

Going to talk Aon just a second here and the madness that it is but he’s a cheat code in that League no one had a good defense except kind of EKU because he was there taking away the rim I will mention he shot like 40% from the free

Throw line was a major liability on that GNA go there for going there yeah’s a defensive 54% this year how about that yeah okay better he was at like point this season so yeah he got hot he got hot from the free throw line Co fun player though sad that his season is

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Previews to hit uh the a sun is where we’re going to start off here the a sun is bananas it’s nuts uh the underdogs in this conference the lower seeds are actually 4-2 right now conference play we will hit the remaining games in this league but it’s good to reflect real

Quick North Alabama beat lipsk at lipam on a buzzer beater Jim it was nuts the Lions led the entire game lipam came back tied it up and then KJ Johnson a former lipsum player hits a runner as the time expired to win the game wow fantastic yeah it was one of those games

With a Marcus page shot where Owen McCormack hit like a 29f footer Trail three to tie it up and everybody’s like all right that’s it going to be crazy overtime and KJ Johnson was having none of it the Chris chosa Vibes here sadly as a Wisconsin fan just kind of the

Off-balance Runner right at the edge of the three-point line um yeah bummer for lipsum bummer for fans watching their former player rip their hearts out but a dramatic wonderful moment to kick off conference tournaments here in March yeah not the only fan base that had their hearts ripped out EKU we alluded

To it Jacksonville the lowest seed in the tournament the 10 seed they knocked off Eastern Kentucky tell you what Jacksonville does not look like a 10 seed in this league 5 and 11 in the a sun is ridiculous uh Robert McCrae is a legitimate like power conference level

Player he’s uh their de facto point guard he handles the ball a lot and Bryce Workman is incredible up front Jacksonville looks very very dangerous going forward uh and then awestin P one in overtime against North Florida another very crazy end of game sequence

The P’s the gas are the four seed in in the tournament and they are now Advanced to the semi-final so again we’ll talk ason tournament coming up but a wild week so far already in Conference tournament action hi your boy Corey Gibson rocking the boots just going to

He has from day Zero to day now on the pants K Kai’s got it he talked the offseason I didn’t want to tweet anything just in case like he always wore this but he was was wearing fullon camo pants and like army boots and I was

Like this has he going he’s going to serve he was going to serve like he told I think that’s what it is Kai he foreshadowed this whole thing it’s like a he’s a propit I mean amazing stuff got the scores table gave a a devendorf a devendorf light yeah Cory Gibson the

Coach of aw P interviewed him during the offseason all he told me was his team’s going to serve and that literally every answer was we will serve gimick very gimmicky coach uh but he has a lot of passion I’m sorry I can’t I draw the line somewhere on the

Gimmicks come on man just talk to me like a normal person the guy’s like our AG I I can’t I can’t stand that type of stuff but hey good luck to him he’s a great that game was absurd that game was insane I watch I watched the final 12

Minutes of Regulation and overtime Austin P played Emanuel the the guy with one arm for like a minute otherwise it was 63 and under they had no room protection whatsoever both both teams were just getting layups at will bucket bucket bucket bucket bucket back and

Forth I have no idea how either team got to stop insane comeback wild overtime uh absurd I we’re we’re in store for more Insanity in the a sun and again we’re going to discuss that shortly uh holy comebacks more craziness but not of the conference tournament variety uh Matthew

Why don’t you talk about what you saw in terms of comeback land yeah I feel like there was a lot so I went to the uh a lot of comebacks that is over the weekend just do some loud ones for sure so I went back and looked at kenpom his

Top excitement scores for comebacks sorry biggest margin of comebacks the season I believe there was four uh that that cracked his top or five that cracked his top 75 or 100 for the year anyway The Crazy Ones got by attention all which had pretty serious ramifications by the way um Minnesota up

Down 23 to Penn State came back and won much to Kai shagrin um the but the real one was Memphis like down dead carried against UAB season circling toward the drain and then oh my God they looked like the best team in college basketball for 20 minutes uh UAB certainly helped

With that Andy Kenny gift Andy Kennedy gifting them four straight points on just like a bogus losing your mind technical did not help actually that gave Memphis the lead and then never looked back from there after slicing the 16-point halftime deficit in like a matter of four minutes um BYU down 17

Ended up covering against TCU at home Texas Tech 16 vers West Virginia Indiana who we thought was dead may be resurrected with Xavier Johnson back 160 Point def at Maryland got it done and Baylor continues to pound their uh cement their place among the Nations the elite 15 points they LED they Trail

Texas after Texas was piping hot came back and won and covered as well it just it feels like there’s a lot of volatile in-game swings this year Jim am I just making that up is this like every year the bubbles tough thing or just like it

Seems like there’s a lot of holy NBA type fluctuations late in the year with the way The Season’s gone I don’t know may it’s in my head yeah that’s the comparison I was going to make like the extremes of a oh just live bet the team

That’s losing by a lot they’re going to come back they’re not going to roll over we I thought we were going to see that in the Horizon tournament a really strange Place typically is I Pui started to mount a comeback uh Purdue Fort Wayne against Robert Morris almost got close I

I think that is part of the you know end of the year as teams dig their heels in this is the final effort Your Last Stand like there’s no real reason to roll over and die but some of these were absurd because they weren’t last games of the

Year it’s just momentum is real Matthew if you watch that especially at home yes yeah Texas was rolling early and then in the second half they were like oh God what what do we do could not score could not shoot got bad shots just it’s very

Clear you can feel it you can see a team start to get timid and I we saw it a lot this week I wish I’d watch that Memphis game um from down 22 to by 19 just ridiculous yeah yeah it was five of the

Six at home five of the six at home home court matters for this kind of stuff go ahead well yeah it was like 60 to 26 in the second half Memphis beat UAB something like that I had to like double triple take my score app it’s like that

Can’t be right uh yeah and then Wake Forest should have come back they they were down 24 and they almost oh great call completed it and they uh yeah they lost to Georgia Tech W Forest yikes yeah Matt’s boy TB Teddy did not call what probably was a travel on the final play

Uh allowed Georgia Tech to retain possession and then they scored at the buzzer so tough for Dem he does not want wake in their in his tournament gy not to be uh sour grapes about the a sun but Jacksonville a clear travel on Robert McCrae on the game-winning play uh EKU

Should okay triple doubles boy these are just getting more common our players just awesome now I I guess so onus wbri twice last week 15 13 and 10 against Chattanooga and then 1510 11 against Ferman I think he leads the country in triple doubles I I he has like five or

Maybe maybe even more yeah we mentioned him like weekly here and I mean these aren’t like oh they whooped VMI like Chattanooga Ferman two good teams in that league and he’s just racking up numbers yeah Devon Smith hey his a second triple double I believe uh for

Utah 1310 and 13 against Stanford Kudos and then Aaron Estrada wow Mr former Hofstra 1810 and 10 at Old Miss impressive little day for him so yeah triple doubles they’re cool way to go college kids out there way to pad the stats doing what you do uh bracket breakthroughs and breakups Matt great

Title for weave saw that fantastic the literation king Matthew Michael Cox uh the good yes Gonzaga handled San Francisco handled St Marys they are # locked into the field Jim and I discussed a little bit couple days ago yeah looking like a seven seat now they went from like bubble territory to like

Way up the seating line just based on predictives it’s how they get there blah blah don’t need to bore you with the details St John three bid WCC three bid maybe yeah if Don if the Dons win Matt I know the Don just have not played well

Against the all right sorry I digressed next yeah St John’s they’re on a rooll still not locked in the field St John’s or any Big E team outside of the big the big dudes uh but they are on a roll Villanova another one of those teams Big

East teams that is surging right now I actually had Villanova as a 10 seat in my last Bracketology which is always right never wrong uh that that is looking promising for Kyle Neptune he’s seven- one against the spread and straight up I think the last eight games so Villanova fantastic uh South Florida

Continues to win Jim how was the the Yingling Center by the way how was your South Florida experience it was popping and it was really cool because I was here four years ago for UCF South Florida game and you could count the amount of people there like just doing the finger check

And this year they had every section open student section was packed to the gills the entire side behind one basket like branching out in both directions stuffed with students clearly a great energy there senior night emotional hugs with s Miguel at the end the guy who’s

Been through some bad bad teams at South Florida now uh champion of the league Southport is good man I get why the resume is not where it needs to be but they don’t beat themselves they play within themselves they get the ball to the right guys in the right spots that’s

A credit to Abdul Rahim and they’re fun to watch they bomb threes and they can light it up yes yes they are hey we’ll see if they don’t win the American it’s going to be the committee is gonna have a decision to make uh we’ve seen Washington get left out of the

Tournament as Pack 12 Champion with a Gody Conference record back in the day it’s there’s precence for it uh Utah yeah Matt Utah torch two Bay Area Schools combin 50 points points the Utes are starting to climb towards the tournament come on Craig battle that’s battle I personally think they look on

The right side in right now but most people have them on the outside looking in it’s it’s a roar Shack yeah same Kai yeah you think so to I was with you yeah and and I was surprised at how little momentum there is for that opinion plus

They’ve had injuries so it’s it’s it’s strange they’ll get overlooked but does the 99 packed call record is that an i sword do we not we shouldn’t care about that supposed to be but you never know what go not on the team sheet yeah right

Yeah and yes Iowa Iowa as well and you could even say Ohio State both teams kind of getting close to the bubble uh flirting with it and then the bad Wake Forest Jim the resume still is kind of right there we have Rocko Miller in the chat good bracketologist wake is not

Dead still somehow but man pick up another Q3 L Georgia Tech I hope they’re dead I’m tired of this and I love that we just had a whole section on them their eye test and how they should be in the the tournament in the ACC it isn’t

Fair well you you can’t keep losing games man I don’t know what to tell you like you’re not a tournament team real quick should we mention Colorado if we’re gonna mention Utah they have one four in a row also they did the same thing Utah did swept it yeah so um and

They certainly have an injury Aster for them too so you basically make a very similar case for Utah and Colorado who are I guess are neck and neck in the bracket S curve right probably very very close together uh Wake Forest the big one thing that Rocko CED to me the only

Teams theyve beaten not in in Winston Salem are at Georgia Tech at Boston College and tson on a neutral they’re three and 11 in games away from home yeah have beaten no one even remotely close to the NCA tournament that is a major major blemish to go with their Bad

Resume metrics Kai and two q1 wins they it’s funny they lost at home last night Q3 loss but they gained a q1 win because Florida jumped up into the top 30 blowing out Alabama but uh yeah I just just I don’t like the resume I don’t like losing to three non-tournament

Teams down the stretch when you were uh big favorites in two of them and pick him in the other game I just I get out get out I don’t want you I agree Jim and it sucks we like Forbes I even like the team but he didn’t perform same uh yeah

Michigan State careful they’re reeling uh three straight losses they’re still in right now but you got to stop the bleeding at some point perhaps they do it against Northwestern tonight as we podcast during the day uh cincin is probably not going to get there they they’ve been kind of spiraling as of

Late and Sean Hall still I think on the right side of the bubble but it’s playin territory for them uh they got blitzed by kraton and Yukon obviously two pretty tough games there we’ll see if they can get back on track but Sean Hall tight butthole time in New Jersey I think and

Then finally Jim just won bad loss section this week akan uh yeah they lost as a 21-point favorite to Eastern Michigan holy moly what a result yeah this is a Jim rant this is a how the hell am I going to lose a Mac future because this team loses at home

As 21o favorites to Eastern Michigan without its best player they lose on a tip dunk on the final possession just absurd they missed like four free throws in the final minute gave the game away now they’re tied with Toledo I believe Toledo is going to hold the tiebreaker

By way of best record against Ohio the number three team in the in the standings so unless Kent State without Chris pyton goes into Toledo and wins on the final day of the season this cost me a significant chunk of change screw you akan screw you that’s tough a 21p point

Favor just that’s just baffling uh especially how akan pretty much dominated the league the entire season yeah very very shocking uh okay that was weave saw that we are going into excuse me Conference tournament previews and fellas we got a bunch to hit like I said

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Course yeah okay uh as son Let’s Talk Aon we talked about how Wild it’s been already I’ve ranted about how it’s the hardest League to bet the entire season we’re in the semi-finals of this league it ends on the 10th uh Sunday this Sunday it’s actually the second bid

Though the the OBC will Eclipse it and get the first bid to the tournament I believe but the ason has Jacksonville at Stetson and North Alabama at Austin P left that’s the 10-2 six and four seed craziness uh story lines here North Alabama this is the first year they’re

Eligible for the tournament and Tony phul their coach told me in the offseason it was a major motivator this season going into the year now of course everyone probably shrug that off like sure North Alabama’s going to win the title you know whatever this team has made the Aon finals before under Tony

Pul without without having a stellar season they could definitely do it they face a good awesome p team Jim if they make the tournament any of these teams one of these teams will it’s a 16 seed most likely a play in game yeah and they probably get smacked by

Whoever they play I mean I guess Austin P could be a weird matchup because they have such great guard Playmakers but their lack of size is going to be a major problem against a lot of teams Stetson sort of intriguing Big Time shot makers and a little bit of actual High

Major size on that Squad I’m just mad at Jacksonville Kai because I bet on them a lot early in the year I think that roster is good I think it has talent and it just took them until now to figure that out and get the ship moving in the

Right direction I said ship I said ship with a p um but yeah I frustrating I guess from that perspective but I love that we’ve gotten awesome games and I hope we get three more out of the teams that remain okay picks Matthew picks and

Any comments on the a sun you want to add North Alabama is the storyline here none of these teams holds a candle to whoever they see in the first round so not worth your time and attention if you’re a casual uh I do like the storyline of Jordan Jordan miny

Jacksonville’s head coach winning it potenti joining his boy Drew Valentine in Lola to the thickest of Thieves young up and cominging stars tough years last year both bouncing back this year Jacksonville not really until just now but still it would be cool to see them both get there yeah Jacksonville in fact

Like they needed I think central Arkansas to lose to even make the ason tournament it was like not a good situation for them but hey here they are okay I’ll start with the picks then Stetson is right now the favorite man I’m going with I’m I’m going with Jacksonville Jim I’m I’m

Going with the dolphins to to surprise win yeah you crazy crazy crazy guy how about that they have to win I think four straight road games to get it done uh I have an 8 to1 Austin P ticket so bear in mind there’s some bias I don’t think

They’re gonna win though I watched too much of that game too much of that leaky defense I think ston has the guards to match p with also some size so despite I think Austin P beat STS in late me year I still think the Gess ball to the

Hatters Matthew North Alabama I already said it best CS in the tournament I disagree with both of you Johnson ston Winson Blackman best cards in the tournament well Austin P’s got sharp and and there’s a lot of good guards left this tournament the guards are are in

High abundance for sure okay good day sun chath fellas America East is where we’re heading next this one hasn’t started yet this is goes from March 9th to the 16th yes all the way up to I think well selection Sunday is the 17th so the Saturday right it’s that 10: a.m.

Central tip the title game is on a Saturday Kai we love it it starts an hour earlier than any game all season yes it’s great we love it uh this one format campus sites and they also recede so the ason recedes teams as well after the first round again they’re just

Trying to stack the deck to their best teams favor it’s smart in a mid- major low Major League you want your best team to represent you the favorite here is Vermont very clearly they’ve won the last two tournaments ironically the only team that’s beaten Vermont in America

East this season is NJIT they are not even in the tournament they did not qualify uh the dark horses Matt if you can call them them UMass L is the two seed Bryant’s the three seed I think those are basically the only two that have a shot here if Vermont wins Matthew

Vermont would be around a 13 seed everyone else is likely a 16 maybe you Mass a little bit higher what is your pick what are your thoughts I’m picking LOL I picked L last year and picking against Vermont’s the stupidest thing you could possibly do but I just

Love patuk cat I feel like he’s the best coach in the country that no one ever talks about because he’s in the America East but like he’s been pretty insane at the school that isn’t a D1 program by any stretch um I like l i like their

Talent I’m sure I’ll be laughed at as Vermont wins every meaningful game down the stretch they usually do but I just like the team good ball Club talent yeah I think Matt’s crazy I think Matt’s crazy Vermont just played L late without two starters and was up 30 or 25 with 10

Minutes left and kind of let him back in up just absolutely thrashed him so Kai got to stick with the camons they the best defense in the league by far and Bryant which kind of relies on like great talent Earl Timberlake is hurt so I think that diminishes their chance I

Mean he might play but he’s definitely banged up and Vermont’s supposed to get those two starters back for the tournament vetto and TJ hurle so yeah I’m I’m GNA be boring vanilla and go with Vermont vanilla Vermont I’m going with Vermont as well love the catamounts man love the catamounts okay

Moving on Horizon here we go The Horizon actually started yesterday on Tuesday March 5th goes to March 12th the campus site games are only for round one and the quarterfinals when we hit the semis and the finals we go to Indianapolis uh the favorites Oakland Youngstown Wright State it’s pretty wide

Open League the dark horses Green Bay Northern Kentucky heck Purdue Fort Wayne can win this Milwaukee Cleveland State Jim is this the most wide openen tournament if it’s not how wide open is it Kai it’s the most wide open tournament it is it I’m gonna confirm

Your opinion there this is pick a name out of a hat if you want to make a selection I’m trying a little fun behind the scenes game where I bet a future in every single tournament and just see if I hemorrhage money make money whatever

Matt I put a little bit on right state in this one just terrific offense maybe the defense tightens the screws a little bit late but I got they got a lot of individual Talent which I think is potentially worth betting on uh and NKU losing Vincent halfway through the year

Makes that zone a little less appealing but I gosh I truly no idea typically this uh tournament has a ton of upsets you see like a double- digit seed in the finals half the years so I’m uh I’m staying away Matt this is this is spooky

League I like like uh your right State angle I’m rooting for Oakland Mr campy just like a late career Resurrection after tough couple of seasons in Detroit Michigan Mr mcken I just think they’re the most uh unique team and the team that’s most likely to be somewhat of a

Threat in the actual tournament which is what we’re most concerned about already winning this year at Xavier at Ohio State competing at eloi by the way as well um I mean they really Rose they did not win at Ohio State how dare you sorry they played competitively they who they

Actually they they beat Xavier that’s right they beat zavier they beat Michigan State right Am I Wrong my off base NOP NOP they did not Michigan State play Illinois they play close to Ohio State close to Illinois decently at Drake actually almost beat Drake Drake pulled away late the only like true

Blowout was like uh was against Dayton Dayton just just just smashed him but like this a fun team got some Shooters Jack Goki should be mentioned the updated stats here he has 107 from two for 20 96 uh 3003 is attempted 3 36% and he has made 35 in his last six

Games sorry 42 in his last seven games I believe if I’m doing math right how many two-point attempts does he have this year Jack gki he has he is three of six from inside the arai three of six one for one last game against Detroit Mercy

So yeah that’s so funny uh he’s fun player yeah worth noting if Oakland does win they’re probably around a 14 15 seed I think Youngtown can also get to that level probably a 16 seed otherwise for for a team coming out of here I’m going agree with Jim I’m taking right State

Individual talent wise the guards Calvin and um oh my gosh names escaping me and Holden Holden I mean they’ll be the two best guards on the floor every game I I think they’re they’re the pick here okay Patriot League here we go another League that started on Tuesday

It goes through the 13th on campus sites but no receding does not do what the other conferences do they do not recede the favorite here it’s Colgate in in Bedding markets they’re minus 250 to win this league uh if they win it they will be going to their fourth straight NC

Tournament if you want to get really technical about it it’ll be their fifth straight NCAA tournament apologies to Boston University who won the 2020 Patriot League tourney but of course that in tournament was cancelled so it’s all Colgate all the time if there are dark dark horses here Leigh Boston you

American but Matt I just can’t can’t see any of these teams holding a candle every single team is a playin 16 if they make the tournament Colgate might get a 15 if they win could be a 16 as well your thoughts yeah if you’re in like the

Swack or the Mak or a low conference trying to think about or the NEC where you might be pecked against in a playing game you’re rooting for a not named Colgate team for sure because the rest of this league is terrible and colgate’s not even cool this year like they’re

Kind of cool but they’re not as cool as they have been I’m hoping they get there and I want Matt langle to have another crack at getting a that big upset he he long deserves but this year’s team is a watered down version so you’ll see

Colgate folks but it won’t be the cool fun Colgate that we’re seeing from the the rooftops or mountain tops to to bet on or pick in your bracket yeah col Gates the winner of the pick um I think they get smashed by whoever they play in the NCA tournament

This I just don’t think they have the ability to play up and terms of athleticism they don’t have the shooting that they’ve had in past years so if you don’t have that then you really don’t have the typical Colgate Raider goodness Kai do like Lehi as at dark course

They’ve been better with Brett uh excuse not Brett Keith Higgins back in the lineup he missed some games and they tanked badly I think they’re the second best team in this league went fully healthy but they ended up in the six seed at Nine and Nine because they are

Four teams that finished 10 and eight wow uh so they got to win Road games kind of have to win Road games but they almost got Colgate in the final day of the season I think they could get him in a rematch in the title so it’s a little

Bit of a value pick there but truly I do think Colgate will win yeah Colgate for me uh fellas Colgate is the choice for the weave the Ohio Valley is where we head next this will be the first bid that we find out about oh my gosh so exciting their tournament starts today

Wednesday March 6th it goes through the 9th which is Saturday so we’ll be talking about the championship on our best bet show on Saturday tune in for that every game is in Evansville Indiana neutral sights three teams tied for first place in the league Little Rock UT Martin and

Morehead State but Morehead State lost a tiebreaker so actually the third seed in this tournament which means they don’t get the double buy Little Rock and UT Martin both have double buys they are in the semis already a bit of an advantage Morehead in my opinion still the best

Team Little Rock probably has the most Talent if you want to go from that perspective Jim if Morehead wins they might be a 145 anyone else is probably a 16 your thoughts for the Ohio Valley well Kai I don’t want less head so I might as well take more head that’s

What I’ll go with here I’m yeah I’m with you they’re the best team still despite having to win three games instead of two they had that weird L where Jordan Leon got hurt they lost a game at home to Southern Indiana as massive massive favorites and then they got right and

They smashed three teams to end the year here spradlin’s the best coach in the league Min might be the best player um the biggest threat is Little Rock Matt as Kai mentioned super super talented some great down transfers on that roster but they only played once this year at

Little Rock and Morehead only lost by one so I think they get some revenge on the neutral floor and they win that three games in three days and and take the title here I guess I’m rooting for Martin Martin door Ryan rder great coach fun

Coach but no one in this league is doing anything in the tournament like even scaring a a team in the first round it’s just I’m looking at I don’t their best win of anyone in the conference was like 150 or something it’s it’s not there’s no evidence of of playing up well even

With Morehead who you know has some good guards some high major guards but up front they’re just way too small I think they get pounded uh poor Riley Minik fun player great player former na na NAIA player of the year yeah when he plays an

SEC team first round I I I will shake his hand as he walks off the bus is he the OBC Player of the Year too I think he might have won that as well I could be wrong but yeah he’s had a hell of a year from Warhead uh I’ll also take

Career for the young man yeah I’ll also take the the Morehead State Eagles despite the uh the lack of double buy from the three seed there and on we move to the NEC the Northeast conference starts on Wednesday today goes through March 12th campus sits receding that’s

How we’re rolling right now in the NEC uh a very tight League I would say the the favorites if you want to call them that Central Connecticut and marac Central Connecticut won its first NEC title in a long long time I forgot the stat but it’s been a very very long time

For that program Patrick sers fantastic job uh that he’s done at the head of that program the real story here is is marac is eligible for the NCW tournament finally they’ve won this tournament at least once um famously last year in fact when Fairley Dickinson actually lost

This tournament and then went on to beat Purdue marac actually beat them in the National Title excuse me conference title uh the dark horses here Sacred Heart Wagner H maybe some others it’s pretty wide open Matt what is your uh thoughts on the NC and bear in mind that any team

That wins this conference is a 16 seed lock love marac think they are the best team now despite my prior uh not seeing it that way love the zone Joe Go I mean if he gets to the tournament here in the first year eligible very similar to the

UNA first year eligible Magic Carpet Ride story I we I think we all want that for marac and for the conference which by the way is statistically the worst in college basketball this season Whispers Again Jim two straight years that’s right last year two straight years of it

Being y yeah I I think marac has that zone they have a great coach and they have the best guards that durak bud Clark Devin Savage those guys are all Rock Solid they don’t have quite the same interior monster as I did last year with Jordan Miner but uh I still think

They will end up coming out on top I wish my Wagner Seahawks were healthy down to seven bodies this year really got ravaged by injuries thought they were a fun Darkhorse before that uh Sacred Hearts got some talent and yeah Central con State Alan gene rose has

Been a dominant force in the paint probably the best forward in this conference but I’m going with the guards I’m going with ABC Adam Bud Clark and Marram Mar this is the best sorry the best first of 15 bet on the board is your marac warriors in round

One okay uh yeah I’ll take marac to uh best coach in the conference Joe Gallow in my opinion it might it might not be close Joe Gallow uh best best coach in the league no offense to Patrick sers did a great job or anybody else at the fine establishments there okay moving on

The Missouri Valley yep biased my favorite tournament it’s Arch Madness Matt and I have gone uh growing up to this conference tournament as we grew up in St Louis it was at the Keel Center when we were growing up that building has changed names a million times it

Matters not it’s the same venue the favorites here Indiana State and Drake a tu bid Valley is kind of in play if Indiana State and Drake make the title game there is a situation where both either could get in that large Indiana state has a much better case um I would

Hope the committee would do us a favor and put put put them both in but we’ll see Darkhorse candidates the three four and five seed are Bradley Northern Iowa and Belmont all three teams can definitely make noise keep in mind though uh Belmont does not have a buy

They play the opening round which starts tomorrow on Thursday Jim if Indiana State wins this conference tournament they are probably an 11 seed Drake would get an 11 or a 12 if they win the others are really 12 134 I I think through the one through five seats it’s a really

Good league and I think a lot of teams can win a game in March your thoughts yeah yeah I mean those top two for sure can give some struggling five seed uh Wisconsin would be in hell if they had to play either of those teams I think

That’d be a major issue and then even somebody like like South Carolina would be like a pickham minus two against one of those teams that would be brutal uh I’m excited for it too because there is a decent amount of parody despite the top two teams being awesome Northern

Iowa’s really good Belmont’s really good Bradley is this kind of kind of defensive monster with Lyons and Darius Hannah that’s kind of tough to deal with they’ve got shooting with Hickman and Dean almost came all the way back on Bradley late in the year excuse me on on

Drake so G to be a fantastic event I almost like that there’s 12 teams now we get more fan bases there more games out of arch Madness but I’m going chalk for the final Indiana State and Drake but Matthew I think Drake gets their Revenge

From the game that Kai and I saw in person uh no Garland in that game for Drake reze was banged up and they still almost got it so I’m going with the Bulldogs to get back to the dance it’s a purple Panther takeover of St Louis my preseason pick kind of too

Cute of a call but the uh yeah Northern I was my was my call and the last three weeks Jim you mentioned the BART torvic super filter tool we we can basically Bend The Narrative to support our our argument of who the hottest team is

Right now so if I can choose my dates selectively actually even over a whole week fan last three weeks you and I has been the second best team in this conference like Fringe top 50 good they look healthy know B Bowen Bourne was not healthy early in the year he looks

Healthier and Kai our boy Justin Hudson the L transfer who was driving us up a wall punting the ball off the uh off the rafters he’s like draining threes now like to complete evolution of his game they have many scores I just think that the way they play is going to travel

Well and translate well in this format with the way they’re playing um they’re just they’re they’re kind of chele they can play fast they can play slow they they Coral the boards they don’t turn it over usually I’m just going to ride the purple Panthers here in Benny Jacobson and the

Boys I wish you luck Matthew not too much luck because that would mean they beat the sycamores and I think Indiana state would probably be out if they don’t make the that be a bummer I know I know I would feel bad about that I’m going with Drake Over Indiana State as

Well copying Jim uh and I really hope Indiana state gets the at large I really really do Robbie V needs to be in the tournament all right Big South time fellas it starts on Wednesday today it goes through the 10th that’s Sunday it’s in High Point North Carolina not because

High Point is the one seed I think that’s just a coincidence it was always going to be at High Point regardless seems unfair to me personally to just pick it’s like a to pick if they were the seven seed it would still be at High Point I I think that’s incredibly dumb

For the conference to do they it worked out this year but hopefully they kind of change their mind Jim M West what are you doing holding at UNLV every year no matter what also I Ivy Madness you didn’t need a tournament to begin with so why why

Are you rotating Columbia kind of where they’re hosting it this year and they actually almost got there but yeah just I don’t know I don’t get this I don’t get it uh but High Point is a favorite to win this conference tournament UNCC Asheville is probably 1 a 1B with high

Point a Darkhorse Garder web uh they’re pretty Scrappy heck you could really find a lot of dark horses in this field winthrip Longwood a lot of good teams here uh a lot of parody is outside of the top two teams this season in conference play again High Point home

Court the entire way M pretty nice if they or Asheville win most likely a 14 or 15 seed in the dance your thoughts your picks who do you got I love high point I uh I was the first to call them by the way no one

Remers this I I love this team in the summer and then I got off the wagon too quickly because they started playing too good so I want to give myself a quick pat on the back I love their back court has a Jim name check there right

Pronunciation it’s a soft Jeep and then Duke miles I think my two favorite uh among my favorite backcourt tandems in the uh mid major that’s my pick to Wi Kai That’s I’m hope that’s also who I’m rooting for to win it unless we want Drew pimber Jim and the

Uh the gorgeous ponyhair superstar that that is Drew and our I I want High Point to win because they’re incredibly fun to watch and we have seen Asheville have no chance against Power Conference teams for two straight years now they’re like 0 and five against the spread as double

Digit dogs and they lose by 20 plus every single time like they same way yeah it’s just tough conference for big representation good point I don’t need them in it I think High Point would be the fun gamble to see how the offense and athleticism would go kamani Hamilton

Is a power conference player coming from Mississippi State all of that said Kai I am picking Asheville I think the draw is way better for them because they’re on the two3 side which means you avoid that winner of winp Longwood which is really dicey high points only home loss this

Year was to USC Upstate the eight seed they could have to deal with that uh and they won this last year with four or five starters back I think Ash’s got a little Championship pedigree to them so I’m going with them I think that’s the right bet if you’re wagering uh that is

Who I have I think I have some plus 330 on UNC smashville Kai but I do kind of Hope High Point wins for the tournament give me Asheville give me Drew PIM in the tournament what happened when they made the tournament last year they got smoked right they lost by like 34 to

UCLA it just was a joke yeah I wrote this up for a little article on action they yeah they played five games against big competition in in bigger stages and they’ve not covered by an average of 12 a game like they just have no chance when they play up yeah tough uh yeah

Still Asheville’s my pick Drew P best player in the league one of the best mid major players around okay Sun Bel time here we go started on Tuesday yesterday goes through the 11th Pensacola Florida lovely lovely uh that’s in the Panhandle am I very good yes it is yes it is thank

You I believe it’s close to is it close to the border of Alabama like yeah South Alabama has a phenomenal turnout there very good I a family vacation to Golf Shores last year Pensacola is actually where we flew into so I should know where this is the favorites in this

League the Sun Belt what a great League by the way appalachi State and James Madison both teams have played pretty darn close to an at llarge level they’ve beaten really good teams sadly only one will probably survive Jim to your point in our outline that no one can see if

James Madison gets 30 wins no team with 30 wins has ever been left out of the field that would be pretty tough yeah I well it’s like what if it’s between them in South Florida like uh James Madison’s only won 15 of their last 17 whereas South Florida’s won 22

Their 24 or whatever it would be by that point if they were going at it uh James Madison got hurt by the teams they tried to play not being very good like Kent State wasn’t as good as they thought Southern Illinois wasn’t the top 100 team Buffalo was absolutely terrible and

They did not expect that Old Dominion kind of a Down year with their coach having a heart attack it’s tough the toughest game they played was at Michigan State they won they did not lose to a team not in the Sun Belt this year and they won’t by the end of this

Uh this tournament so I think they win I think I think they actually get this done and I’m I’m bummed because Appalachian State is a great team to watch they got the the Auburn home win that shows they can step up in class and their defense is

Ridiculous for a mid- major team at The Rim especially but Matt I think James Madison’s just got a little too much weaponry and it’s tough to beat a team three times that’s true I actually correct hate it kwood High School how did that work out for you right Matt nice they

Still remember they still remember you better believe I do baby um STS up I think I like JMU better just as a fan I think in my for real versus for fun bif forcation of this of this analysis um I bet James ason is more the

For fun and app States more of the for real in terms of threat in the tournament agree agree agree I think both are underrated on the other I think abate’s more fun too but I think Jam f is actually a little bit more for real than they probably profile just because

They’re smaller leaner they don’t really have true physicality but I just think the with how unorthodox they are they have enough Talent like where unlike a Cornell or someone um they wouldn’t get run off the floor by a big boy but who knows I mean they basically Michigan

State I know they’re not like a great team this year but they wanted Michigan State that’s a pretty damn good precedent so rooting for both those teams um Troy Scot cross rocks that’s my other guy who I’d like to see make a depron just an unreal coach he gets no love for

What he’s done at that place and Arkansas State’s had a great year under Brian hotson I think they’re a dark horse Southern Miss has a ton of talent they made the tour they make tournament last year yeah I believe am I wrong last lost in the Louis last

Year South Alabama in the Deep Run they got white hot but uh Richie Riley squad’s not as Fierce this season just not yes yes South alababama great one yeah correct Matthew thank you for reminding me uh yeah James Madison be my pick as well James Madison App State if

You’re a power Conference Team you do not want to see either of these teams in the first round whatsoever uh yeah James Madison 12 seed most likely App State 12 or 13 134 maybe for the others maybe some 15 in there but hopefully one of the top

Two guys wins this league and we can see some good basketball in the tournament uh Team most likely to get crushed in the opening round is probably a team from the summit that’s where we’re heading next March 8th through March 12th in sou Falls South Carolina not the Pentagon not the Pentagon sou

Falls is where this is held the favorite South Dakota State the Jack bunnies interesting enough though St Thomas is the number one Kim pom team in the summit but they’re a four seed they’re also ineligible for the NCAA tournament because they’re still in transition period the dark horses are St Thomas

UMKC who actually nabbed the two seed and has been playing a lot better recently and North Dakota the three seed who’s been playing a lot better as well my pick here jym is South Dakota State they could get a 15 most likely a 16 along with anybody else to 16

I still think the Jack bunny is the class at the conference what are your thoughts yeah they played really well towards the end of the year when we started to think like a maybe they’re not quite the level of some of the past South Dakota State teams they stepped on

Throats at the end of the year last two games at North Dakota at North Dakota State won both by double digits uh beat St Thomas at home late the the best team per kenpom so they really exhibited the ceiling that they have but Matt you have sold me on your bouny

Kangaroos that’s right hop along with us baby this team can the more I dug into it how well they were playing down the stretch they won some tough road games they beat South Dakota State at at home they got better as the year went on Marvin men is one of the best ATS

Coaches in conference tournaments historically it’s from New Mexico State dominating that League it baby it is true and draw wise Matthew they’re on the opposite side of both the Jack bunnies and St Thomas so you sold me I’m picking you MKC how about that it’s very simple Jim here’s the formula North

Dakota state for years was was dominant in this field until South Dakota State you know stepped up and and probably has overtaken them in more recent years but there’s a big stretch where they were always in there because they played defense and no one else in this conference did UMKC plays defense and

Their defense is very real if you watch them they look like a power Conference team they just don’t have power conference skill um I worry if we see them in the field like if they actually win this Kai and then we they go to the the big dance their offense looks anemic

But I think it’s good enough with smoking mirors and some plays men’s runs and the way they can just get on the glass they can actually win this and sneak into the big dance and punch the auto ticket um I this is the only team I

Would give a prayer to compete in the in the in tournament if if they got there South Dakota state they’re better but I just don’t think they’re gonna match well at the big school at all yeah I mean UMKC I think would get smashed by a

Big school I got to be honest I think they can defend well enough to keep the glass they’re better now they were young they got a lot better I think they’re better I know like the metrics show like they suck against good teams but they’re just they’re a lot better

Right now didn’t South South COA State probably was the most competitive team in the nonc they they were early on Y and they had the Moors injury I think and they kind of went on to a little skid then he came back they’ve been good they’ve been fine you know I’m probably

Overly their expectations have gotten to the point where too high probably that’s fair maybe they deserve it uh yeah southa State’s my pick I love Marv Marvin mens fantastic coach him and Johnny Tower probably 1 a 1B best coached in this league in my opinion Eric Henderson slight apology there but

Uh yeah I think one of those three teams probably wins this okay Big Sky here we come Big Sky country March 9th through March 13th Boise Idaho a lovely city I hear never visited never been would like to think I do very well there Matthew you would do very well there the

Favorite Eastern Washington the Dark Horse Weber State Northern Colorado probably not Montana with the latest injury news right money Williams I believe that is that right oh he’s back back oh the opposite I think monana is seven minutes yeah okay watch the game he looked good he looked very good he

Might have looked good but man I think this is ewash or Weber that’s why I’m picking between here uh ewash likely a 14 if they if they win this Weber probably 1415 everyone else 16 Matt I’ll start with you I’m going Weber I changed my mind

Just now go Weber State who do you pick I’m going to go ewash but I do think the Darkhorse caliber with Weber and Montana both are very real even Northern Colorado I guess with their with their offensive gear um do we want to just write the Big Sky off for dead

In the tournament gym like I kind look at these four teams and they all they’re titillating in their own way to me but I’m like no no no the dick Sky just the talent level in this league is deceptively Baron is that a kind way to

Put it like they just don’t have the jimmies and the Joe’s they just don’t you want just I think a like a lot of these teams don’t it’s more system it’s more coach based which is great but you know for the exception of Eastern Washington I

Just don’t think any one of these other teams can really step up I mean Weber State C we saw him at St Mary’s right Dylan Jones went off he’s got like that Pro level upside but yeah Jim sorry talk me into reality here with the Big Sky I

I can’t get seduced by this I guess can I no they’re they’re titilating against each other because they don’t play a lot of Defense there’s a lot of a lot of uh skill at that level but yeah I think athleticism and physicality they do not step up well at all I Montana State

Bullied this conference for two straight years with physicality and then they got to the tournament and got destroyed by teams they played so that that concerns me I I think we’ll have a fun tournament here and K who’s the announcer that the guy with all the great analogies I

Forget his name but his name yeah the best color commentator you got to watch games here in the Big Sky because he will he will entertain you endlessly with uh some of just the the figures of speech that he has my pick is going to be Weber though this is a

Stubborn to preseason expectations selection and kind of best player on the floor Dylan Jones is the best player in the conference do not have the balance that Eastern Washington does or the size across the board but I will go with Weber and Washington or Weber did beat

Them late in the year I believe hey quick to Jim’s Point number one effective field goal percentage conference in the nation number one twoo percentage field field goal percentage I think that’s more than a DI in on the defense and the lack of athletic Rim protection about the offense and that

Shows up in the tournament so yeah I mean ewash covered a few games against good teams at good teams in the nonon but yeah we thought Montana state would cover against Texas Tech and that didn’t work out too well um yeah someone in the chat probably knows that guy’s name the

Announcer for the big guy former coach he’s got great great banter great saying so tune in to that conference hopefully he’s still doing it okay the Southland is where we’re heading next no bracket yet it’s not quite finalized but this one starts it starts on Sunday uh but

We’re going to do it because it it ends actually next Wednesday on our next podcast date so we got to talk about it here Lake Charles Louisiana Home of MCN is where this is going to be played well MCN is the favorite uh they are by far

The favorite in fact they’re a 12 seed lock if they make the tournament everyone else is just Chase and MCN everyone else is a 16 maybe even a playin team Corpus Christie and nickoll state maybe maybe they can pull a fast one here Jim but it’s MCN or

Bust yeah it’s MCN oh it’s MCN it’s I don’t don’t need to belabor this much like Corpus Christie gave him hell in Corpus Christie they did drop one at Southeastern Louisiana uh they played a fairly close game at Lamar actually kind of escaped in that one but Matt neutralite or or in

Lake Charles this is a talent runaway will Wade’s a great coach U there’s just no reason to doubt them I think they kind of take care of business here I I agree and I think they I mean they’ve proven they can play with the big boy a

Little bit I mean I know that the you know win over Michigan isn’t exactly viewed in the highest regard anymore but you know I still want one at VCU I mean beating UAB by that margin at UAB I know was early in the year in UAB was kind of

A in disarray but fun team will Wade narratives Galore Talent Galore great venue as you guys mentioned here uh one of my favorite mid major gyms in college basketball the legacy center just a great setup love it um if they lose are they out yeah yeah that’s so dumb they’re 27

And 28 and three like I mean well again if they win 30 games no one’s ever been kept out with 30 wins I I believe they’ve won bad issue one bad loss I guess I mean like God like put Mississippi State in they lost at home to Southern and only thing

M done wrong is they lost on the road to clot I mean let’s I I don’t know I think that would be like we need to reassess some things there I think the number of wins is is is just wow I think they will get punished for playing biblical

Studies Champion Christian lero and Mississippi University of women I think they will say you played four games against teams that don’t exist so what are you doing hey one by big margins though there Jim they did take care of business hey man where did you play college basketball uh the Mississippi

School College of women oh yeah they beat them 9223 so not not uh you know one-sided I would say Okay moving on one side there three more tournaments to hit and then we’ll say goodbye well reviews then goodbye the WCC is where we’re going next this one starts on Thursday goes through the

12th it’s in lovely Las Vegas a city that we will be in twice in March uh a long time in March the favorites here Gonzaga and St Mary’s they have an extreme set up in this conference gonz and St Mary’s have a buy to the semis and then it basically tear off from

There uh Pepperdine Pacific have to win how many games five and five days something like that or five and six days technically 50 and 50 days or something and they may as well to play with one hand I don’t it’s just the point is it’s

Gager St Mary’s it’s a two bid League no matter what at least so if one of those teams doesn’t win it becomes a three bid league and and bubble teams everywhere start shaking in their boots Matthew does San Francisco or Santa CL have a chance and who are you picking

There was a time where I would have said yes to either one of those depending on when you would ask that question Kai I think injuries to Santa Clara um and then also just the precedent that we’ve seen how they’ve played against the big boys in the conference St Mary’s and gon

Zagi sort of reinforces that okay maybe you’re not quite ready for prime time yet Don’s and Broncos Jim but I don’t know I still feel like there’s some real talent on both those teams that could rise get hot for two games just very very unlikely and Wishful Thinking for

Those you three w three bid WCC fans out there yeah I don’t think it’s insane for Santa Clara to beat St Mary’s they’ve gotten a little bit healthier down the stretch they only lost by five at St Mary’s and no Joshua Jefferson like removes a little bit of that athletic

Juice from The gales and they did beat Gonzaga this year so it’s not like they’ve been completely outclass playing up but the other side of the bracket Gonzaga likely against St Mary’s in the excuse me against San Francisco they’ve beaten them 29 straight times they won handily at the chase Center down the

Stretch this year they are playing incredible basketball like the best of the Year by far for the zags they look good I think Gaga wins I think it’s over St Mary’s in the final anytime we try to get cute with this league we end up looking dumb just it’s the two best

Teams they’ll meet in the final and I think Gago wins I agree Jim and I a lot of agreements here zag over St Mary’s is where I’m going the colonial excuse me the coastal is where we’re going next the CAA in Washington DC uh strange venue for this league maybe maybe I’m being

Maybe I’m in no it’s it makes sense it makes sense yeah Delaware talson all those Yeah Yeah March 8th through March 12th is uh where this one is now there’s a lot more north than you think you’re right it’s more northy GE geographically than you think are four teams the top

Four uh teams in this league I think all have a good shot of WI it they all get buys it seems like the the the excuse me the title winner will come from this group however we have seen teams make run this Mak runs in this league before

Drexel was a six seed one year they won it uh Charleston Drexel Hofer UNC Wilmington are the top four uh personally I’m favoring Wilmington here I I think the Seahawks are going to get it done uh Charleston’s a great pick too so is hofra heck so is

Drexel Charleston probably is a 12 or 13 if they win the others probably 13 maybe a 14 uh that’s at the top four win Jim how do you like the CAA I love the CAA it’s fun tournament to watch if you have FL Hoops if you

Don’t yeah go f yourself so sorry I think the semis and the finals are on CBS Sports Network so you actually get to watch the big rounds the better games Kai do you remember in November when Charleston couldn’t make a three and we hated them and we were mad and they

Drove us nuts uh since February 1st Charleston has made 40% of their threes and route to winning this conference they have gotten scorching hot from the on the arc I think that’s a little more true to their ability at maybe not quite 40% but they’re a good shooting

Team that said Mt I’m going HRA I I kind of like that that nucleus they have they don’t have a lot of depth so it’s going to maybe struggle in this kind of a a setup but halfcourt scorers they’ve got a lot of them and I don’t think Charleston’s transition attack will be

As potent in a postseason setting and it’s not it’s not as good as last year’s team I know you’ve been saying that I agree with you I would go HRA and let Wilmington and Charleston beat each other up on the top half of the bracket I think Charleston wins it um

Jim I say it’s not as good it’s feels it’s getting pretty damn close to as good the way they’ve been playing lately like they’ve kind of figured out the some of the optimal guard pairings I know Kelsey talked about how like a bunch of new guards complex system how

Do they fit and so I feel like now they’re starting to play well and yeah they’re making shots they’re I mean they almost beat San dieo State last year without making shots that’s why I it’s a team that profiles well in the tournament The Possession tug of war is

Like Kelsey’s emo they dominate the glass on both sides they don’t turn it over they’re not forcing at many tours this year but if you can win three of those four boxes you’re going to be in pretty good shape as I did against the Aztecs we’re right there down the

Stretch same recipe can work just avoid the hofra UNC Wilmington and Drax to land mines I think he’ll be fine Northeastern sleeper that’s all I have Kai yeah we we disagree on that Northeastern sleeper take but I respect your take the Huntington hounds I mean come on is there a better like nickname

Reference and college hes it’s just that’s just too good that’s too good probably but we’ll give it to the nor Eastern for for the sake of brevity thank you speaking of brevity here’s the last Conference tournament we will dive into on this podcast again next week we

Will cover the other 17 tournaments and stick around for reviews at the end of this show after the socon we should also probably plug the Circa thing I’ll do that after for this one uh soan March 8th through March 12th in Asheville North Carolina lovely city never been

Heard good things the favorites Samford UNC Greensboro but heck Ferman Western Carolina Chattanooga all seem very capable of winning this conference it is wide open Matthew the seatings for the N tournament the top five teams are all in play for 12 or 13 seeds maybe 14 seed

We’ll see who makes it who doesn’t make it I am going with drum roll man I haven’t even decided you go first well I decided I actually have every matchup already picked like I’ve been really plugged in with this league I think I have this one nailed down so

Just get your pencils out folks here’s the results Mercer will beat The Citadel in the opening game they will then beat Sanford as they already have this season they will play Ferman and the semis Ferman will beat them in a very close competitive game Bob Richie continues

The Mojo people slept on him as the five seed come on team’s good fman the title game they will see Chattanooga who will beat wford and UNCC Greensboro and rout to sort of Renaissance for a healthier mock Squad but ultimately it’s Bob Richie back in the dance back in the

Cinderella of Throne where he will strike again okay the paladins okay here is Jim wrong I’ll do that the GI there no I’m I’m out on that I’m hi you’ve kind of been the one who’s knocked some sense into me on how good Samford is and has been there

A couple times in socon play where I was like oh you know I kind of like the dog here and you’re like wait why stop stop betting against them they’ve been a juggernaut uh they got healthy to end the year almost healthy aor aor returned Jaden Campbell returned from a one one

Game absence maybe they get AJ State and McCrae back too I think they exact some major revenge on wford Matthew uh and and Mercer really a couple disappointing Road losses there late in the season I think bucky ball gets to the dance and I saw one bracket Kai that had Samford against

Alabama in the first round and I was like 95 possessions please yes I’ll take it uh so I am rooting for Samford and I picking Samford Greensboro and Western Carolina also intrigued me though wbite best player in this conference I’m taking Greensboro I’ve decided uh they’re not sexy but darn it they are

Consistent and Mike Jones who Mike Jones fantastic coach Greensboro is where I’m going with it nice fun like that we pick three different teams there that’s rare for us does it bother you that Sanford gave up 91 and 80 points to offord in the s in the last two games of the year

That bothered me a l no I think they had already clinched the one seed and they were like H we’re chilling baby we are chilling um also step boy Joe Cravens is the announcer in the Big Sky The King The Legend So if you find a game that’s

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Hey guys longtime fan listener best college basketball podcast all right with the impending doom that is Jan Howard’s firing what can Michigan do this offseason to rebuild this program get back on track into the beine era what coaches should we be targeting how do we fix our recruiting or transfer

Targeting as a current student oh nice current student just want want you to know EXC me he wants to know or she if there’s any hope for the program in the next two to three years there’s hope it’s Michigan Jim it’s Michigan There’s Hope yeah and there’s no easier era to

Flip a program in basketball especially where there’s only like you know you need six guys that are good uh yeah they could be good right away names to watch I mean the the typical names for a lot of these Midwestern schools coming up devies of Drake Medved Colorado State

Jos shirtz Indiana State and I mean you’re you’re Michigan so you could probably pull someone from a rather large job uh Matt I wrote down Mark Pope like I don’t know if he’d be somebody they’d look at um I don’t know I I just they could probably pull a sitting head

Coach I I started to see the dusty May Whispers for Ohio State Michigan could probably get a pretty large name too why not Dusty May yeah great great uh we’re not discussing Dusty May future he’s focused on the task at hand that’s getting our Al to a national title and

Then that any phone call be wide open but until then we’re not discussing dtin future Kai in regards to Michigan They just won a national title in football I don’t think they care for the next 10 years or so for about basketball like that just buys you a decades worth of

Runway of futility in my opinion um but yeah good money tough to recruit to because of the academic standards I know it’s been an issue sometimes consideration for some coaches not for others do whatever they did with the Fab Five that was years ago times have

Changed shade thrown at the Fab Five for not being Michigan quality students I don’t know I don’t know them very well so I don’t stand with you on that I’m not gonna go against the Fab Five you I’m not a jayen rose fan I’ll say that much I’m not a Jaylen Rose fan

Whatsoever I think he’s arrogant agree I think he’s a little Annoying uh Joan Howard’s fine honestly I don’t mind Johan Howard whatsoever okay Mr House 31 creative title the name of the review live review coming off watching Jared Lucas down Colorado State and my fan ego is at a high flashback a couple

Weeks ago when the Nevada hate was at its peak on this pod my question is did anyone have a better February than Nevada and am I delusional to believe in the Pack’s potential to Make Some Noise love the work you guys do go pack Nevada Jim the resume is very very good clean

Clean it’s it’s crisp yeah not a lot of losses at all total on that resum they’ve picked up some solid q1 wins they won the diamond head back in December uh not a loaded field but but it still helps pick up those noncon wins I will just say I am scarred from

Betting Nevada in the first four last year when they got absolutely obliterated demolished smoked destroyed by Arizona state from the opening tip that has me scared but how dare I crash and harsh your fan High live large Mr Wolfpack you’re gonna be in the dance again Steve alford’s got you in in a

Great Direction yeah happy for him pack last year no CU you know I this was my team last year so I was on the bandwagon before half the Nevada fans were on the bandwagon now this year I was off the bandwagon so I’m getting slacked because

I’m not I’m not going to play this game I will not play this game this team will be losing first round as every Mountain West team has the last three years so fun fun story fun year but but they’re done I never lost faith I’ve been Nevada

Backer the whole year so I’m I’m I’m with you Mr House 31 popcorn John says trying to beat the shot clock Undisputed best podcast we all John he has two topics for us this week with increasing talk of tournament expansion by power conference Commissioners what do you

Feel will be the best solution when it comes to expanding the field in the event it gets to 96 my gosh would you be in favor of awarding two Auto bids per conference one regular season one conference attorney second question here there’s been much discussion this season

On the dumpster fire that is the slooh bilans the writing appears to be on the wall for Travis Ford to be gone where do you where do you three lean if you were hiring his replacement okay number one the tournament I saw some Whispers today that people kind of expect this to

Expand to like 7276 I hate it if it went to 96 gym which I can’t even imagine yes two Auto bids at minimum would be the solution or at least like part of it right yeah got to I mean it’s what adding 28 bids and I’m sure now you end

Up with another 11 via conference tournament failure from the mid major guys and then like there’s 17 more at Large room that’s fine that’s plenty for the uh middling mid major or middling High Majors I would you know it’d be kind of fun to see Tuesday and Wednesday

Become even more exciting but then you can start take a whole week off of work that’s tough that’s a battle um and I don’t want to remove the magic of Thursday Friday which could get a little water down by Tuesday Wednesday being bigger days but yes definitely Auto bids

For teams that lose in their conference tournaments as for slooh kind of a lot of the same names as above the the shirts the freeze I mean they can pay so they would be tripling Jos shirts of salary I would assume um that would be a

Good place to look I saw some mentions of Chris Mack because he’s won in this league I’ve heard he’s kind of a strange fella I wouldn’t be all that thrilled about him um yeah I don’t know Matt other obvious names I’m missing like somebody from the OBC that we should

Preston Spradlin like do you want to go that route no I think SL High higher aspirations as they should um I I hope church is the guy can we continue to speak it into existence and maybe it’ll it’ll happen I just feel like that’s such a good fit but what do I know

Nothing yeah shirts Dev home run hires that’s what I would go for uh I think Goodman had a good idea for the expansion of the tournament it basically make it a plan the that the non 64 like make it a big plan um certain thing read

His tweets whatever it’s a good idea if it if it were to expand don’t expand it kwatt 127 you guys do such a great job at covering college basketball as a whole all right he’s a Syracuse fan says it HS to see NC State ahead of us in the

Net ranking who we swept also seeing pit considered a bubble team 40 spots ahead of us who we also swept both home and away when looking at quad wins they all seem to lay out pretty similar can you guys help explain to me what goes into

The ranking and why Syracuse is down in the 80s the net obviously analytics but is it because Syracuse hasn’t blown anyone out they’ve also only played four quad 4 four games all year have a solid SOS hearing pit be bubble team just grinds me when Syracuse seems to have a

Sliver of hope to get in talk some sense into this fan hey I get it I would be frustrated too the head-to-head matchups are tough Jim the net formula is a black box nobody knows exactly what goes into it but it is who you play how much you

Beat him by winning on the road matters a lot neutral contests matter a lot Etc yeah how much you lose by matters too uh losing by 15 at Clemson 29 at Wake Forest 16 Florida State 36 North Carolina 20 at Duke 22 at Virginia 19 Gonzaga 17 Tennessee like they gotten

Blown out a lot and that is the problem if you’re not blowing anyone else out to offset that U then you just kind of look deflated in these rankings that’s a Kai I think it’s a mistake for lonardi to not have them on the radar at all given

The strength of their resume metrics they’re they’re up there in the at large vicinity they were before they should be in the conversation yeah I mean like it’s a different profile than South Florida but it’s the same thing in terms of resume metrics are way better than predictives uh they just have bigger

Wins in South Florida and haven’t won 19 in a row against the American um so yeah I they they’re they should be in the conversation but it’s going to take a decent amount in uh in Greensboro for them to actually have a real claim from Blue chicken in the chat I thought they

Said the net didn’t include margin Victory I’m almost positive it does include margin of victory it includes margin of Victory capped at 10 but it also includes efficiency margin which is not capped not Capp so almost double counting that it is a bit also I don’t mind that yeah if you lose

By a lot you win by a lot it matters especially compared to a certain competition right yeah it’s a it’s a predictive metric it’s supposed to yes I agree it’s also your own net doesn’t really matter forg getting in exactly yeah yeah it is to to figure out how

Good the teams are that you beat and how good beating you is yes they’re not like oh this team is 50 it can’t get in over a team that’s 40 like there have been teams in the net 70s that have gotten in as at large as like every year yeah last

Year was the record Ruckers 70 something something like that yeah Ruckers Arizona State I think it was in the 70s once it’s entirely possible Pat ask where I can see the formula there is none it’s a black box literally they they have not shared it it’s been a point of

Contention honestly it’s it’s I believe it’s like a like a machine learning type of model where like it’s it’s not like an X Plus y the point is no one knows what it like that’s the frustrating part it’s like shouldn’t it be transparent I think it should be personally yep you

Guys are just too you’re just too dumb to figure it out okay we have one okay mccon 23 all board the Casey ruse train hey we talked to Casey ruse in this podcast Jim why no love for the Casey ruse absolutely elf elf Lego uh heading into the summit league

Tournament Matt talk some sense into your partner says the review and keep up the good work fellas great podcast for him we basically just slam dunked his question in the earlier segment so yeah R Ro yeah I was sold said great things about the ruse Kai That’s one dunk on me

Let’s let’s get to the other dunk on me yeah the onear review uh just the fact 69 is the name okay great kind of funny I’ll give him that one uh the the title of the review is hot take artist I listen every week first of all I don’t

Believe that uh I just listened to Jim on Titus I am glad both showed they are idiots it is good to know that Jim cares more about show than wins what does this mean what does this mean I don’t know all I I think if anything I’ve been accused of being a

Boring fact-based research robot and not a hot take artist so I told you guys I took this as a compliment I’m starting to expand my horizons as a commentator yeah showing range exactly more9 what does that mean all Swedish no finish Kai all Flash no substance listen every week one star

Review that makes sense okay that does it for us at three-man weave we’re back tomorrow with Best Bets if you’re into the best bet sort of thing if you’re a gambler if you like college basketball betting we are back at 9:00 a.m. on this same channel 9:00 a.m. Central on

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