Sauce Gardner responds to negative talk about NY Jets, Aaron Rodgers, & Free Agency | The Pivot

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“There’s 2 sides to everything. And I’m a realist, so I’m always going to keep it 100.” Sauce Gardner

The NY Jets 2x All-Pro cornerback is setting the record straight, responding to verbal accusations about the organization and providing context to unanswered questions and speculation surrounding the Jets culture and future of the team. Only the 3rd guest to make a repeat appearance on The Pivot, Sauce chats with Ryan, Fred and Channing about everything from growing up in Detroit to his love of music to being a leader in the locker room to what 2024 looks like for The Jets but most importantly, Sauce was strong in his purpose of letting the world know, the bull crap and false talk about his team, needs to come to an end.

Stemming from a recent conversation The Pivot had with Mecole Hardman, Hardman spoke out against his former NY team, listing numerous reasons he was happy to have left the organization as well as revealed the inner workings from his experience that painted the team as complacent and a disorganized mess from the top down lacking leadership, treating star players differently than the rest of the roster and not being able to have success despite having extreme talent.

Sauce spoke out on social media after the Hardman did along with other Jets players who also debunked the claims. Sauce shares his side speaking in facts only about the team, their approach and the coaching. He was extremely clear on certain aspects of the season, spoke in detail about the locker room mentality and made sure it was known that the standard is the standard in NY and the team is not an ego driven program as described. Although frustrated with the narrative that Hardman and others have used about the Jets, Sauce is open about wanting others to succeed and believing everyone can eat if they work hard enough, he applauds Mecole for another Super Bowl win but says he should have taken the high road and not even mentioned his former team.

The 23 yr old, young in age but wise far beyond his years, carries himself more as a veteran in the NFL than the young rising star he is. The early expectations were not for Sauce to reach the level of stardom he has now, yet with all of the fame and success, he discusses the importance of humility and grace. With a 96 overall Madden rating, Sauce understands that it’s the little things that separate people from good to great which is why he explains making it a priority to learn something new as often as he can by chatting with everyone in the building from the GM to the cafeteria people to the groundskeepers to his teammates, understanding that’s the best way to sharpen your skills is through communication and never being too big to learn from anyone.

Playing in the biggest city brings a lot of attention and sometimes turmoil, which Sauce details one particular incident that highlighted his new reality while using his roots to handle the issue. This was the cause for roughing the waters between Sauce and Hardman, as he explains his former teammate’s involvement in the situation. Dealing with a hacking issue on Snapchat, false claims about his personal life, exposure of privacy on blogs while also being extorted, Sauce never caved from who he is at the core and never allowed the off the field chaos to affect his play.

The only player to be named First Team All-Pro in his first two seasons since the 1970 merger, Sauce has etched his name as one of the best at the position and is just getting started. Being touted as a future Hall of Famer comes with a lot of pressure, which is why he continues to focus on each day like it’s his first day and not allow the accolades to cloud the mission. He respects the strong class of defensive backs he came into the league with and tries to learn something and elevate his game by taking something from each of their styles. Sauce didn’t have a role model growing up, so he strives to set an example and be a voice to young guys who came up just like him.

Sauce Gardner is focused on another All-Pro season and locking in with his teammates to chase their Super Bowl aspirations and understands all of that starts now in the offseason. With free agency underway and the draft coming up, Sauce says his team wants are simple, “I want Aaron to feel comfortable in the pocket and for Garrett to not always be double teamed.”

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Before I signed my second deal I had like 300 Grand in the bank if I a sign a second deal I’d be debt broker my first four years I made 4 million 4 for four 4 for four and I had 300,000 left in the bank after them four

Years that’s not a uncommon story I had nothing to show for it though it was all just hanging out partying spending just Financial dude called my mama and said yeah he spent um he withdrew $120,000 between 6: p.m. and 6:00 a.m. so I was I was I was taking out 10

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You can take out $2,000 a night so every every Friday night every Saturday night I was taking out $2,000 at 8m and so I took out over $120,000 between 600 p.m. and 6:00 a.m. my [ __ ] had my my my Max is two grand and I was pitting that on

The head and the strip club they give you as much money as you can get what’s that yeah that that ATM give you as much money as you can possibly get Tootsie dollars all you 10% yeah hell yeah I used to boy I used to be in there he was

Like because I even when he said it when she said it to me she she was like yeah you took you took out over $120,000 out the ATM I was like [ __ ] yeah that’s my money is somebody knocking no no okay that’s fine hello omad yo oh y got the set up

Okay what’s good with you what’s happening with you chilling good to see you boy yes sir good bro baby what’s up with you bro hey SAU I Ain he ain’t going to lie bro you’re the first guest ever that I was slightly upset that was

On time that was on what but we was hungry as hell when after this meeting we just went to and I was like shoot sauce and you hadn’t texted us back like text us back what time I was like man sauce going to be a little late man we

Might get something to eat I was like let me shoot my I usually I usually pull up a little late but it all worked out you know what I’m saying I just came straight here they s kind pining it I F the here to witness it got my people feeling

Militant way I’m feeling get me up on the mission got me up KN me I got the key only Vision I can trust trust Limitless n it I witness it my feeling feel me up me up well welcome back to the pivot one of our very few repeat

Guests uh Freddy T Chan I’m RC only repeat guest other than sauce is Floyd Floyd CJ Floyd and CJ number three bro you got to be doing your thing yeah so so here is my uh my question bro since you are here for your second time like the show could be

Totally different so I want to go back to L sauce the SoundCloud rapper oh yeah can you give us a little bit of what the uh what the flow was it was a little Detroit flow I remember I had got my uh my first phone or whatever you know I

Was in this was a Elementary I believe but you was still able to like buy Beats on your phone so I had like $3 the beat was like $3 so if you really go on there and like dig deep I got like five different songs on the same beat and

That’s what everybody talking about they like bro you using the exact same beat but that’s just because I couldn’t really afford it at the time you know what I’m saying and when I was in elementary like everybody rap like we used to be in my basement I remember my

Brother used to rap with his friends they used to be in the basement he had his little group they was rapping with and I was young and me and my boys was young and we used to be rapping too I used the little voice memo thing so

That’s what I was recording off of a lot of people was like you need to get in the studio again when they when they like heard the SoundCloud or whatever but whole time I just play the beat and just record off my phone you know what

I’m saying yeah so I used to like doing it it was just I didn’t like have a passion for it it was just something to do like if I Wen playing the game cuz I grew up still playing the game playing football basketball sports but like I

Still used to just do it just for fun but if you listen to it bro like and this is this is me with my 44 year old adult years thinking about like a young kid like you actually like it made s like you actually had a little flow no

For sure it’s just one of the things like I mean you you could really hear what I’m lying about cuz I did I was I was capping about some of the stuff but like the good thing about it like it’s the stuff I was rapping about back then

Like it’s actually true now you know what I’m saying the jewelry the clothes all of that stuff but like some of the stuff that I was saying it was actually like me it’s interesting you bring that up that the things you wrapped about on S when you were a SoundCloud rapper are

True now your goals were recently like released or somebody found them and you posted it can you explain or tell me what those three goals you wrote on a piece of paperwor before you enrolled I don’t even remember what that paper said I believe it probably said um I don’t

Even remember it number one cuz I know was it 3.0 3.0 yeah yeah number two you wanted to be a great college player and number three was wanted to make it to the league and take care of your family yeah for sure when you think about having written those goals before you

Even entered High School to where you are now how much did you believe that those goals could come true yeah I always believed that uh I ain’t really had like no big role model who was already like successful stuff like that who could just tell me stuff like if you

Write it down and just tell yourself the same thing that you write down like your mind going to train yourself to do whatever you got to do to line up to those goals so I feel like I was just wise beyond my years you know what I’m

Saying I just write write stuff down and be like you know this what I’mma do and my mom she always like preached school first and as much as I used to always just have my mind on games and football it’s like that was like the reality of

It like you had you got to get to school part down so it’s like if you could be a talented player cuz I I know all of us I know we all know some people that was talented but just couldn’t get right you know what I’m saying so if you could

Really get that school part down and just just lock in into that everything else going to take care of itself so you know I made sure I focused on school like I went to college I did my thing three years and I then I went back you know got my diploma or whatever

Graduated now we here you know I’m in the league being able to take care of my family you reached all them goals you had a three yeah we know the other two the other two is on yeah that’s on okay yeah so I’m going to get deeper into it

So like when I was young like Elementary I always had a 4.0 Middle School it was dang near the same thing High School I used to have like a 3 four 35 College I used to have a three 35 Cuma wow so like I was always smart like that was one

Thing that you couldn’t take from me like I was always smart no matter what it was in school if I was outside like I was always Street Smart I was always book smart I was always like smart all around you still you still set them goals do you still write them down like

You saying it was released but you still write them goals down every year yeah I always um have them my in my notebook especially like before each season too I always write some new goals down some of them be the same because you got to understand like in the league of certain

Things that you can do again pro bowl or Pro you know one of the things I can’t do again rookie of the year but like I’m always writing goals now you know what I’m saying we talking about writing things down notebooks what your pass

Code A1 hot sauce how you get ha oh man all right so look I’mma go I’mma go I’mma go back cuz I ain’t trying to create no Theory so this what I feel like cuz like like I said I’m smart so I feel like I can pick up on I

Don’t know how smart you was sace because they figured your pass code out hear me out it wasn’t even that easy you know what I’m saying so I don’t know I’mma go back back so it was a situation that happened with like these this blog you know what I’m saying

It’s these female bloggers or whatever and they like they just post athletes or whatever and be like what’s the tea on him and I remember my name came into the conversation so then I’m just seeing like females just lying he took me to Paris he took me to

I’m like I ain’t even got no P I ain’t even have a passport at the moment you know what I’m saying I still haven’t been a par I still haven’t been out the country till this day so it’s like certain things I just couldn’t I just

Couldn’t get right with it so then I remember I told one of my teammates and this kind of when me and Mico like kind of fell out of love a little bit so uh my teammates I I got a couple teammates that made the blog or

Whatever they told me that one of his close friends she is the one behind all of it like she run a Blog so I tell him I’m like bro you got to tell her to take it down a know what I’m saying he said he was going to do it

So then he come back to me like hey bro I could tell her to do it but she going to want a little something she going to want some money so I’m like that really just threw me off like cuz that’s extortion yeah and it’s like you as my teammate first of all

I’ve never been extorted can’t like I don’t care if it was a dollar I’m not paying nobody a dollar to like extort me that’s just like where I come from that we don’t play about that so yeah I remember um he said that so that’s where it sparked the little s

Like I remember every single day like I was just on some different timing because like I know that if you really cool with somebody then you got the power to tell them to take something down and there do it you know what I’m saying so that’s just like a part of it

And then something happened between me and him he went back to the female and was like yeah this causing problems in the locker room so then it’s like you going back to females you know what I’m saying you going back to females telling them what we got going on locker room so

Then I remember that blog hit me up and was saying hey I I need x amount so I just start responding all that died down so fast forward to like my Snapchat getting hacked I don’t think they was the ones like that hacked it but I think

They had something to do with it cuz like whoever hacked it he like a true hacker like he been around for a minute so I don’t know how that how that happened but it’s like the messages all of that stuff look the same when it came

To them trying to ask for a certain price and it’s like if you do that that’s just like a no-brainer I’m not paying you you know what I’m saying cuz I know me I know how I move so if it’s on Snap like I know I ain’t got nothing

To C like I’m not recording every single thing going on in my life you know what I’m saying I always been that way so [ __ ] I was just like go ahead do what you I got to do aside from the potential Ransom it seemed real personal like the

Message from the hacker and the tweets and stuff everything that popped up it seemed personal like somebody was really really out to get you n fact it it was a different type of hack situation where they release these guys accounts again but those messages seem directed and

Very personal you think they same yeah I I I definitely agree like I’m saying it’s like whoever hacked the account seem kind of mad you know what I’m saying exactly I’m like if it’s a true hacker they just do it for fun you know what I’m saying they ain’t really going

To it ain’t going to sound personal as just what they do so I definitely think it was something uh personal you know I still don’t know who it is but I had my I got my speculations but I was going to say bro what they was asking for like 20

Racks 200 racks a mill like what was the num they talking about so I think they they ask for like a 100 you know what I’m saying 100,00 yeah it’s one of them things where it’s like they think that I don’t know what’s on there so it’s like

I know that’s probably why they overreach like that cuz like it’s Snapchat you don’t know what you then but me the type of person I am it’s like you not going to find nothing OD that’s going to have me like cooked or something something like that like you know what I’m saying

Cuz I don’t move like that so I wasn’t tripping I was just like hey it is what it is in a situation like that early on you mentioned you know always being intelligent when it pertained to school also having a level of street street smarts you know I mean you from Detroit

Like you don’t make it from where you’re from without having that sort of awareness how much does that play a part in the way you move though because a lot of cats in your position type of money you have type of Fame you have the type of success they live recklessly right

And if their Snapchat got hacked they pay that money just to not let those things get out how much of your upbringing and certain things you’ve experienced is what makes you live that way a lot of it like you know what I’m saying I don’t really I ain’t s to

Record my whole life like people know when they come around me like I don’t need all them cameras in my Pace you know what I’m saying I don’t really party like that anyway y’all know me I be playing the game streaming and stuff like that because I know I ain’t got to

Worry about nothing nothing you know what I mean so that’s how I be that’s just how I always mov you know uh and the times I was to go out you ain’t going to see me dancing or I’m probably like the most worn person to go out with

But it’s just like me all that music and stuff that just I just be like aware all my surroundings you know what I’m saying my teammates could be all turned but me I’m going to be the one that’s you know that’s chill that’s just looking around making sure everybody else good I know

That if that was Chan Snapchat he’d have been out there butt booty ass naked oh yeah I’m taking my shirt off in the club P all type of naked pics and everything on yeah yeah yeah I’m taking that shirt off in the club but what did what did

You what did you learn from it what what what did this situation what how did that change sauce uh I ain’t gonna lie it just it ain’t changed me too too much like it ain’t like I’m ashamed of nothing you know what I’m saying like everything I got more secure though two

Back to verification I got that on on everything so it a really changed me like but you actually said though you’ve reached a place in success and fame where you can’t really have a private life where you can’t you can’t really live I guess the normal existence did

You know that before this situation or was it this situation that made you tweet that and feel that way actually I think I tweeted that before this happened okay before that had happened so it’s like I was already knowing like I had plenty of situations i’ been by

Myself or like when I use when I travel I always got security with me you know what I’m saying but it’s just like you can just be out eating with your peoples you know you got peoples trying to come up to you taking pictures it’s never really private even if you

Want it to be private so I feel like since my name been growing even more it’s like more of that you know cuz I feel like the amount of people who know me from year one to now is crazy and it’s crazy I thought a lot

Of people knew me last year but it’s like now it’s it’s even more crazy even in Vegas everybody was coming up to me I’m like this Vegas it’s always people with big names here you know what I’m saying but it’s definitely changing but you know that’s what that’s what come

With it you mentioned how the situation during the season sort of caused the rift between you and mcole like I get it you know what it is like if you’re my teammate you’re supposed to have my back you understand that these things are happening if I know Chan and I know if I

Know Fred and I know Chan and Chan’s like hey man me and Fred has this is have this issue I’m going to try to be the go between and get things fixed that’s the way it works uh we had mcole on our show and you know he said some

Things about your team the Jets and uh Thomas morstead spoke out and said something about uh you know getting beat out by an undrafted rookie and you know you also you know there was some jokes you made playbooks being leaked or calls being leaked when you started to hear

Those things how much of those feelings from the season sort of rose up and made you think that it’s possible that a person like that could do some of those things y’all know it’s like a difference between like this podcast and the first one the first one when I really get in

The room some I don’t really like talking too much cuz I like to fill everybody out you know what I’m saying so when I first met M I think it was in Cali first thing I thought is like he talk a lot you know what I’m saying so I

Really wasn’t surprised by like him getting on the podcast and just talking about everything you know what I’m saying just talking the way he talk cuz if you ask me it looked like he was just happy to be there you know and it look like he just made your job easier

Cuz y’all just ask question he just sitting there talking the whole time which is fine um cuz he did B out he B out in the Super Bowl he had a Super Bowl uh game wi the catch and he want he the Super Bowl I’m happy for him uh you

Know for being able to make that happen but you got to think I really feel like you can’t really discredit the Jets especially him individually like they sent you to a contender team you know what I’m saying they sent you back to the Chiefs and you just won the Super

Bowl so like I feel like that’s that’s ungrateful and I feel like he shouldn’t have got on there talking about the Jets because he could have just took the high road you won the Super Bowl and you got had the game win a catch the standard I

Know he spoke some good things about the defense but like the standard is the standard everybody got to follow the standard if the offense can’t make certain things happen it that has nothing to do with the standard you know it’s just they just couldn’t make it happen for whatever reason you know he

Had some missing pieces or whatever and um yeah like I said kosala do a great job implementing a standard you know offense defense special teams it’s not no ego driven program Aaron yeah he there but Aaron Aaron work his butt off you know day in and day out and I know

He mentioned uh like helmet’s been on the ground we don’t really have helmet on the ground and I know if it was helmet on the ground his was one of one of the ones that’s on the ground if you really know what it is what it takes to

Win let me just put you here if you know what it takes to win what I’m saying you going to make sure you let the team know we always around each other we always in the locker room having fun we always in the meetings we always talking to each

Other at the practice but the reason he couldn’t do that is because he never earned his stripes he came in the facility and just thought he had a made for him like if you know what it takes to win you’re not going to go to practice and drop hella punts and then

Have excuses to why you dropping them you know you’re not going to go in a special teams meeting and get cussed out by the uh special team coordinator like it’s just certain things that’s not going to happen if you truly know what it takes to win so I feel like it’s

Always two sides to it and I’m a realist so I’m always keep it a 100 like I said I’m going to keep it 100 100 with that like I said I’m actually proud of him for being able to go there and make those plays like late in the season

You know cuz he I’m sure when he came to the jet he was expecting to go back to Kansas City at the same year or whatever you know what I mean so I’m proud of him for being able to win the Super Bowl I’m proud of him for being able to you know

Make that catch to end the game you are just be honest um I told you this when I met you at last year’s Pro Bowl for someone who was as successful as you are the absolute zero amount of hate you have in your heart for people is refreshing like I’ve listened to you

Talk about players at your position I’ve listened to you talk about teammates guys on other teams and so first of all I want to say that um just and even in that answer you display that like you defended your team and you talked about your team you talked about some things

That you felt were real with him but you also said I’m also happy that you got to go do what you did and so just from a respect level it just my respect for you continues to rise I will say this about mcole he def Ely was comfortable in

Talking to us which I think a lot of people are like you’re a little different like I can tell you right now 15 minutes through this one you’re way more open than you were the last time you know I can tell that that that that’s a difference I think for him too

It was part of that relief of like I had that start to the season and look how I finished you know from our standpoint I I take some accountability I could have phrased questions the different way ways I could have redirected him different ways and I

Got to do a better job in that for sure but I just want to give you your flowers on the way you approach everything bro it is absolutely phenomenal regardless of you know what mcole said whether it’s true or not like we weren’t in the locker room and we we’re talking about

Standard uh he’s a guy who’s come from a program organization where he’s played in what four or five Super Bowls or something like that and and he it’s a comparison thing for him right but you guys now have an opportunity the words are out there whether it’s bullettin

Board or whatever it might be you guys have an opportunity to kind of reassess and re-evaluate yourselves in the offseason who are our captains like the coaches they got to say all right he said it for a reason yeah you know what I’m he was here he peaked around he said

It for a reason how do you guys as the leaders how do you as the leader of the team uh All Pro uh Pro Bowl how do you take that step forward to say all right this is out there maybe we need to look at things a little bit differently and

Use this approach how do you go forward do you do anything differently I mean you got to think even if it’s if it wasn’t true you still going to look at it like all right it’s out there let’s make sure we tighten up every end you

Know what I’m saying it’s some good that we could take from what he said um without a doubt but you know like I said some of the stuff it just caught me off guard but definitely we going to uh make sure we tying up every end and uh to

Pivot back on what you said I don’t never hate on nobody bro like I come from humble beginnings you know so I was always the type of person that want to see everybody eat I was always the type of person that want to see everybody

Succeed like I even saw Mico I saw Miko at the um the allstar game and Indie you know I ain’t had no hate towards him I was watching him play you feel me I was cour side watching the little allar game you feel me watching watching them play but

It’s just like in the season when that happened that’s when I was like a different type of person not a different person but I was feeling a different type of way you know what I’m saying cuz I I know like if I know a female and she

Running like a Blog I know like she going to listen to me if we just friends so that’s that was my mind that was my mentality my mindset back then but all that’s over with I ain’t got no hate towards him I don’t got no hate towards

Nobody in leag no body in general cuz I feel like first of all when you ain’t worried about the next man that’s help you with mental Clarity you know what I’m saying and help you push some positivity and I have been in the room with like stingly with p t we always

Chopping it up we always picking each other brain so it’s like it ain’t no reason to like hate on the next man and the fans and the fan base they always going to try to paint that picture yeah and even the um the media they always

Going to talk about how do you feel about s so do you think you’re and it’s like it don’t always got to be that cuz at the end of the day we got to line up against these other dudes on the offensive side of the ball you know so

That’s why we always can help each other so we got the best for uh for when we going against these Tyreek Hills of the worlds and the uh Elite receivers well first off you did kind of hate on Micha in the allstar game say he was why K

Than that ain’t get 10 points though hey man I’m going be honest like I said I had front row seats man so I already I seen what was going on Micha had he had a he had a goal that he wanted and I had got there a little late so I didn’t know

Exactly what was going on he like dang I almost got 40 and I could just tell by how he was playing he ain’t care about nobody else you feel me he was trying to get 40 so then I’m I’m just watching Kai cuz I rock with Kai heavy you know

That’s my dog I done linked with him plenty of times he my age you know and he hilarious um so yeah I respect everything he do I’m just watching Kai doing jumping jacks on the court you feel me and I’m like y he wide open you know what I’m saying right Michael still

Shooting the ball ear balling he ain’t even care I’m saying I’m like man he tripping yeah K Kai said my wife tried to holl at him on one of his videos I had yeah yeah how you feel about that I I responded to him we went back and

Forth on Social cuz I was like yeah man I’m a Ferrari you a moped why would she leave Ferrar to go to a mopet one of the reasons honestly like RC kind of hit on it one of the reasons I think this show is so successful is because it’s alpha

Male sitting down together yeah you can agree disagree but it ain’t no like you saying it ain’t no hard feelings like I think this way I think this way okay cool bro respect like we we don’t got to agree we can uh respectfully disagree but as men like RC said and we’ve had

Tough conversation between us three too did you really have a grown man sit down conversation with micle about all this [ __ ] going on no we did cuz I’m the way the way that I was like I said the way that I was mentally during that situation is

Like it’s kind of how it was how it used to be like back back in the day like back then when I was young like I was really hot cuz I already had my mind made up I remember walking into a special team meeting and it’s like I

Feel like you could tell what somebody talking about something still so I didn’t sat down and I done turned around I just see him like the hand signal he talking to somebody else and I remember I got up went over there you know what I’m saying then like right

Bro it’s just a waste of my time let me chill out I ain’t going to gain nothing from this let me relax but we never had a sit down conversation or nothing like that you know I wouldn’t be opposed to doing it like I said I ain’t one of

Those type of people like once I’m cool once my mind is at ease and not like 99% of chance per of the time my mind always at at ease I always got a great uh mental space think it’s space all of that stuff so I wouldn’t mind doing it

Yeah you know what I’m saying but at that point like it was no telling me like to do that you know what I’m saying but I think that’s I think that’s smart like I’ve you know we saw we’ve seen Hard Knocks like we’ve seen you get into

With people you’ve talked about the way you grew up like from a leadership standpoint to say this isn’t the time for that conversation is intelligent and mature on your point on your part right because like I know when I walk over to somebody the sort of energy I’m on exactly right sometimes I

Walk over and I was like I hope he says something I can click out about right like that’s the mood I’m in and then sometimes I’m like no I really want to hear you out and fix this and so I think for you to be be able to understand your

Head space and move accordingly again just says a lot about you but for me that’s crazy sauce that you have some of these things going on in your second season and you became the first player since the 19 1970 merger to be all pro first team two years in a row to start

Your career I think it was something like what 251 total yards yards or something like that on PFF giving up when you look at your rookie season where you’re Defensive Rookie year compared to this year how do and where do you think you’ve improved I would

Probably say are we talking like on the field or like period because I think the I started with the leadership part because I believe that’s a large part of growth as well for sure I would I would definitely say the leadership part like I’m one of those guys like I don’t never

Get complacent I’m not a guy that you about to see be like all right yeah I’m only taking a few reps at practice I’m literally doing this cuz I’m trying to get better and I’m trying to help motivate too you know what I’m saying I

Know I was the number four pick I know I got the all Pros or whatever so it’s like me I try to attack every day like it was my first year because I wasn’t even stting when we first was in training camp I was I was behind um I

Was behind Bryce Hall who Dominic Corner as well you know he be doing his thing and we didn’t seen that the times he had to go in there and play Denver um and Philly you know he got a pick scooper score fumble so you know just being able

To just watch him and watch how he attack attack the uh day every day like he motivated me that’s one thing about me man like I’m saying I always my ears are always open you know I’m always trying to listen and be able to get more pooters whether it’s from the coaches

Whe it’s from my teammates no matter who it is whether it’s sure it could be the lunch lady it don’t matter who it is I’m I’m always trying to find ways to get better you know that’s why the way I move when I go in there to get my meals

In a in a cab I’m always you know what I’m saying like memorizing names you know telling them thank you for the food and stuff like that like I just been trying to mature even more you know what I’m saying and um yeah back to like the

The m thing it’s like I didn’t come into the league to just like be on that type of timing know what I’m saying be getting a tour with people be arguing with people we all came in for whatever our own reasons is me mle and the rest

Of the people in the league I know mle he have uh plenty of reasons why he wanted to you know come to the league and dominate and show the world what he can do you know and I know one of those reasons wouldn’t to be arguing with me

Or arguing with other people so you know we going to grow from it and and you know we always going on in on our on our why and why we why we uh play this game that we love to play you ever look at your stats and say God damn I’m good as

Hell I’m locking Folks up crazy bro N I really don’t because um you know I really I I love the game man I love the game so much and I love what the game can do for like my family you know it’s like I be I I keep seeing videos

Resurfacing to me when I was real real young and it’s like if you ask any individual you wouldn’t expect me to be where I am today you know what I’m saying College High School Little League possibly because I I was a man in Little League you know what I’m saying I was a

Man in Little League when I got to high school I was still hella small like I was like 58 130 like ninth grade so like you couldn’t really look at me and be like all yeah he going to be a quarterback starting the League this

This and that you know but like I don’t really be looking at my stats like that you know sometimes it’s like can’t I can’t help but to see them because they pop up on Twitter it’s always there you look at your Madden rating yeah I do

Look at my mad ra what’s your M what’s your Madden ra I heard I haven’t been playing m I heard they took it to 96 you know what I’m saying that’s crazy as a gamer how dope is that though man to see yourself on Madden to have that sort of

Rating you know for someone who actually enjoys stuff like that we keep it 100 so I mean it’s cool like it’s Madden Pro players who be getting me for their ultimate team and stuff like that and I remember before I got drafted I said I had stopped playing Madden in college I

Was like I’m not GNA play until I get in the game and it’s like whenever I actually get on Madden I feel a certain type of way seeing myself I be like bro I’m really on the game so that’s why that’s probably like 70% of the reason

Why I don’t be on man because I’m on there but it’s not like a bad reason it’s just like it always make real reality hit again and make me get to thinking about myself when I was young like d I’m really on mad I’m really a 96

Overall I’m really this I’m really that you know what I’m saying so that’s like the main reason I don’t be on there bro we saw it I go back in my we older than you I saw it with Dion I saw with Champ Bailey I saw with revas for that little

Stretch and now y ass like when you know the quarterback looks over there before pre- snap hell with that no did that [ __ ] get frustrating I mean it do get frustrating but like I play Between the Lines so whenever I get a chance to like take it out on the

Receiver that’s what I do you know what I’m saying I get them the extra push or whatever like whatever it is but it definitely get frustrating you know I I had some opportunities to get some interceptions this past year that’s what make it so frustrating like I wish I

Could have made the most out of those opportunities that I got because I didn’t get a lot I want to ask you about that uh early on in the season you guys are playing Dallas yeah uh you lock down outside that kind of throws it across

The field and that’s early on in the game too where you have an opportunity to not only be the Difference Maker you always are you changed the circumstance of the team when you have those sorts of moments cuz you said earlier you’re always seeking to get better you’re

Always seeking to reach a higher standard how frustrating or things like that and how did you feel like right then right there I was so frustrated I was making excuses cuz it’s like I remember my my visor was blurry but but I see I still seen the ball so like if

Y’all Pete I haven’t I haven’t worn a visor like I never I haven’t I didn’t wear visor for the rest of the season you know what I mean because I was contemplating it’s crazy I was contemplating on taking it off I’m like BR y’all see my V it’s crazy they like

Cuz we in a dome that’s how it is next thing you know that outcome like damn you know what I’m saying it’s definitely frustrating because I could have changed that game you know what I’m saying I still think about that I could have changed that game um pick six we would

Have been back in it but you know they they just had the momentum the entire time you know what I’m saying so stuff like that that I wish I could get back you know I I’d be lying if I said um I didn’t feel that way you know I think I

Think last time we saw you we ask you your goat receivers like uh former players do you mind if I ask you your top five receivers in the game right now or the guys you you like to go against um so I got Tyreek this not an order right here Tyreek Jess

Jefferson Devonte Adams want to say somebody maybe but he ain’t put me in his top five so I Ain a’t saying who who who make him a honorable mention then who who would it be that I’ll make him honorable mention all right so that’s the three right there

Um you know who I like though who really like that who that Amari Cooper yeah he liked that like that like he don’t be in the top eyes though people don’t really put him in their TP eyes maybe because he’s a little older than those guys but

Co been crazy this yearo what I’m saying you at four all right um I feel like I’m missing something oh CD I a’t even said CD yeah Ty Jess Jefferson CD um Amari C Devonte Devonte okay now that’s a that’s a a great one hon mention steon digs oh he

Menon little Aiden his little nephew said he did he did hey n he he is hilarious I feel like I mean I feel like he going to be baller when it come to football but he can mess around to how acting in his career too like man he can

Have his own little TV show he he hilarious for sure yeah he he got that that Diggs uh sort of entertainment Gene you know Freddy T asked you about the top five receivers bro your class of Corners has turned out to be an amazing class uh we all knew about you and sting

You guys go three four Trent McDuffy yeah absolutely went crazy had a great super Super Bowl uh don Bland uh Tariq you know just so many of you guys like when you look at that young that that actual class of DBS I think a lot of

People still feel you stand at the top of it how fun is it to play with those guys know those guys rock with them but also get to compete amongst a great group of peers for the years to come I mean it’s great I feel like um soon

Where this there’s obious next offseason or one after that like we going to have to all get together like I feel like that would be good for for the culture like we could start something special you know what I’m saying us training I mean the next the next group of corners

And the next draft class they can get together I feel like receivers they train more together than us as DBS I don’t know what the hidden secret is hidden reason why us as DBS don’t be together like some of the top guys know I mean those guys that you just named in

In our class some of the top guys like we could be learning stuff from the older guys I know Slay Slay always willing to get some game free game you know jopson Nas he one of those guys but there’s other guys in the there other

Guys in the league too you know what I’m saying I know jayen that put me hip to a lot of stuff you know what I’m saying whenever I ask but like we it’s probably some stuff that we don’t know you know some stuff that I don’t know that they

Know vice versa you know I have a question um what is your relationship with King okay so kayin we got a pretty good relationship um he used to always be hitting me in college we used to play the game when okay when he was in State

Corner coming out to the draft when he was in college I think I was in college yeah cuz you only been in the league two years yeah yeah so we used to always be playing 2K and everything like that and it’s like um I used to watch him at Penn

State he used to be a baller and then I seen um his 40 and it’s like he looked a little bit nervous and it’s like I was feeling the same way I know y’all probably seen the tweet I was feeling the same way I was I was feeling hella

Nervous when I was when I was at the combine it was kind of like uncomfortable type nervous like why is it so quiet in here it’s it’s hell of people and it’s stadium and it’s hella quiet and it’s like you can just look up you see everybody looking at you then

It’s like you get down for your 40 you look up everybody is like around that area right there that strip and I remember first 40 all my technique went out the window first of all my I could not learn to start when it came to running the 40 like I know your hand

Down you got to they want you to swing it straight back but if you lift it up first and then put it back you you already lost time so like even even on my second 40 I did the same thing I still just ran faster you know so I feel

Like a huge part of it is technique for sure but yeah man I seen that and it’s like I already know He fast I know the type of guy that he is I know the type of player he is and I know the type of

Dog he got in him you know he from Detroit you know me anybody from Detroit I’m always going to feel like I already know like where they coming from you know what I’m saying so I already know he feel like he can go up and match up

Against anybody which is the main thing the main thing is how you perform on Sundays or Thursdays Mondays you know so I thought that just you know to to do it publicly is huge for a kid like that or for a young man like that who’s going

Through that like you said he cuz he can actually really play right right he’s going to be one of the higher drafted corners and then you do run 4 six and the first thing goes through your mind is I’ve ruined it all yeah you know so

To have you reach out to him when I’m sure people are probably dogging him or he’s down on himself is big for his confidence definitely bro I gotta ask like you said number four pick second year two time all pro team leader and y’all were in the TOs to

Winning the Super Bowl early in the year and we was all watching it week one we knew what happened we was all watching the world was watching a rod get back there he try to push off and then he sit down he don’t do all the wiggling on the ground he

Just sit down and he’s shaking his head man you as a team leader like at that moment how did you feel and then you as a team leader y’all got to get up the next day cuz y’all still got 16 left for the regular season shoot that to get out

The next series you know what I’m saying you still you had to do that like what what was your part in how did you feel at that moment what was your part in that because man that was that was a hit to the football world like you said he

Wasn’t doing all the squirming around all of that so I’m thinking like he probably just twisted his ankle or something like that roled his ankle you know but once I heard the actual news I’m like bro like what we going to do you know what I’m saying we had the

Whole offseason Hard Knocks all that going on and it’s like Dam we ain’t got aod you know what I’m saying we ain’t got eight out there we ain’t going to have him out there no more so I was definitely hurt but the way our defense is the way our

Brotherhood and bond is it’s like we always going to think all right bet now we got to do it for him you know what I’m saying so it was really easy to be able to go out there and be motivated to play for him you know what I’m saying

You don’t want to see nobody get hurt you don’t never want to see that happen to nobody know what I’m saying the same thing with um what’s his name from the Niners Dre green stuff like that is just like you don’t never want to see stuff like that

You know you want people to always be able to be available to be able to play the game that they love so things like that is it’s just hard it’s just hard to hard to take you know what I’m saying you know he’s back right you expect to

Have Aaron Rogers healthy I mean he was working his way trying to get back if you guys made the playoffs and so for y’all last year was okay let’s try to get some new players in let’s get this new quarterback in we have a Super Bowl

Caliber defense we know who we are this this offseason is a little different what’s your focus and the team’s Focus this offseason headed into 2024 what do you want to happen going forward and what do you feel like you need to do I mean I know lasauce been uh on the job

Yeah lasauce the recruiter yeah man I feel like we got a couple pieces you know that we want to get you know but the main thing is just locking that Brotherhood in getting everybody on on board you know what I’m saying if we all on the same page we good you know what

I’m saying that’s one thing micole did say that was true like when Aon went down it’s like when Aaron I’m going just say it like this when Aaron was on the field everybody felt confident in their ability you know whatever position they was like yeah you had Garrett Garrett

Always going to do his thing Bree always going to do their thing you know I’m talking about them because I know that they was in the same draft class as me and I already know them you know what I’m saying but it’s like when he on that

Field everybody want to block for him everybody want to catch the ball for him everybody want to do that and it’s like you know once he once he wasn’t there no more it’s just it’s certain things that like we some people like relented a little bit yeah that’s just the reality

Of the things yeah I mean whenever you have a dude like that at quarterback the belief in the building is different you know I mean when you mentioned the name Aaron Rogers is always going to be mentioned with the best to ever do it he is in those conversations with the Patrick Mahomes

When we talk about skill level the Josh Allen the big time guys in this league and him even more so with some of the things that he’s accomplished so when you look at who the Jets are going to be this season now I want you to put your

Recruiter hat on right cuz we know in the off season L saau of Buffalo Wild Wings uh a Buffalo Wild Wings um Fame yeah gets to recruiting in this offseason what what are some of his recruiting wishes if he can make some things come true I want Aon to be

Protected back there I want him to feel comfortable back there in that pocket you know and um it’s really simple like I want him to feel comfortable in the pocket and I want uh Garrett to not have to get double team so if that means

Bringing another guy in a to be able to throw to you know then that’s what it’s going to be but it got to be that much of a threat to the point where it’s like all right we can’t just double team him if we double team him we got to double

Team both of them you know what I’m saying well last year it was just double team coach yeah exactly exactly that was it Channing said um two time all pro two-time pro bowler all all world everything you’re season vet random question what’s most most important the seasoning or the sauce on the chicken

Wings well yeah like what we talking about that’s some [ __ ] man my mind works stupid sometimes because you can’t have so I’m I’m going be h godamn boys deep in that commercial rubbing the P rubbing the P God damn the seasoning or the sauce like so I’m going be honest like you

Know it’ll be easy for me to say the sauce you know that’s my name or whatever but it’s like you know sometimes the seasoning just right you don’t even need no sauce you know what I’m saying you don’t even need no sauce so I’ll say the season for sure got to

Be I love it you know what I’m about to say myself but I think I’m I’m going to put y’all in there too s is better at football than we were yeah he’s the best football player in this room right now these the only two that can even have a

Conversation part of that conversation we need to get on this one goddamn balcony somewhere and walk away of this conversation start but to to to RC’s Point like you talking about and L sauce like you say you on your recruiting tip or you know do do you go to the

Organization and be like cuz you know these dude it’s it was different I speak myself like I knew whole bunch of dudes in the league but it ain’t like I’m going to the Dolphins and being like hey man my homeboy in San Francisco was a

Free agent do you do y’all young boy y’ go to the organization and talk to him about that oh yeah I I done did that before you know what I’m saying I definitely did that before I remember one of my boys I ain’t G to say no name

Because I don’t know like where he at right now what he got going on he about to be a free agent he like yeah I know y’all need a um know y’all need a extra tackle you know what I mean so I just say I I said that you

Know but I didn’t say it to like after cuz we we had loss so like I I wasn’t going straight to to like yeah you go right to Joe or I went to solid right there Joe will hit me up sometimes like it depends who it is like if it’s a

Receiver he’ be like hey how did you feel about him like did he give you problems I’m like it depends what it is sometimes just like do I say do it look like he gave me problems you know what I’m saying right it really depends on

Who it is but um yeah because he he know that us as players have a different relationship than a player in the GM so like we know the actual person jod he do a great job and bringing in the right person and the right man you know what

I’m saying so that’s the main thing um you want Dion Dawkins I know yall friends now oh no you say I saw you the other day you took you worked out took your shirt off said you about to go do a podcast with your shirt off I mean like

When why do you feel that’s been the trendy thing though to knock the Jets when Dion Dawkins goes on the show obviously he never wears a shirt he didn’t have a shirt on at the SPs actually and he’s like you know those guys are weirdos or or those things why

Do you feel it’s become trendy to knock the Jets I don’t really know like I would have been perfectly fine with the interview if if he just said I hate the Jets I swear I wouldn’t have said nothing I wouldn’t even responded like I still shouldn’t responded cuz that’s

What about to ask why why what made you respond first of all like I’m going say like me personally I ain’t going on VL I got my reasons why I ain’t going on VL you know what I’m saying so it’s like it’s different to like see like a current

Player going on that first of all that that kind of threw me off when you look at BL you really see more like rappers and stuff like that who then got into stuff in their life or then this this or did that or then you know what I’m

Saying you ain’t really seeing no different platform whole different platform that’s why I said I feel like he wanted to talk about what he was talking about he could have just came on here and C it the day because like you going on Vlad to talk about a $50 million contract that you

Just got you know what I’m saying blad really don’t even care about that vad ain’t never played football a day in his life probably you know what I’m saying and I got hey I ain’t got no problem with vad but yeah it’s just was kind of

Weird like he’s saying we the guys who just post pictures on and then I had seen some on Twitter he got like 400 pictures on Instagram I’m like how like how are you saying that you know what I’m saying he like people was cuz you know how the J

Fans get they be o sometimes you know they gonna go find you you know what I’m saying if it’s oh he said he we be doing that on Instagram let me find his Instagram so I’m looking at him I’m looking at the little pictures on Twitter that they didn’t screenshot from

The Instagram I’m like and you saying we be doing that but you right you on your IG tweaking you but I ain’t really I ain’t really tripping cuz it’s like again that look like one of them things where he was just like happy to be there like when they brought up Mike

Clem you can’t hold on you can’t call them what you call you like he called him whatever he called him but if you know Mike you know he ain’t going for nothing you know what I’m saying right it was just certain things like come on

Bro you ain’t got to try to act tough on FL we get it that’s where the rappers be at that’s what it is you ain’t got to try to act tough on blad you mentioned he always have his shirt off that’s cool but come on bro you ain’t gotta you

Ain’t got to act over tough on BL that’s just that’s just me how I look at it like when I look at that podcast it look like a human being who was happy to be on that podcast or happy to be getting an interview from Vlad because that’s

Where we grew up watching some of our rappers being interviewed on and it looked like you acting over tough and you ain’t even got to do all that cuz if you really standing on like what you stand stand for you ain’t going to do all that extra talking on on the

Interview you ain’t going to call somebody out their name like that come on yeah I think that’s the part that was you know I could see having to respond to but I kind of want to take it away from there um you’re in your second year

And U you know the great part about being in your second year is you don’t have to pay for the rookie party now what I want to ask is when the when the $114,000 bill came out and you said you can hear your voice you didn’t have to

Pay it did you feel a little sorry for the rookies though being that you had to do it just last year last season he know cuz like my rookie dinner I had a turn rookie dinner like I had the Vets talking about this the best rookie

Dinner I had we ate dinner little baby little baby we I little baby I rock with baby heavy like that’s my dog you know what I’m saying so that’s DJ favorite rapper so DJ like he bro I’m he he want to get I’m like you want a picture BR

All you got to do is say that tell baby come we they take a picture or whatever boom so it’s like at the dinner though the Vets didn’t even try to tax me I swear my bill would have been like 10,000 or like 8,000 the workers at the Food Spot was

Just bringing food out they was bringing platters out that’s going for like seven bands of Pop they brought three of them out off the rip and I’m just thinking like oh yeah this ain’t really like you know what I’m saying so that’s just like 21,000 right there wait that’s just on

Three for three platters so like that’s stuff that they just brought out that people didn’t order be what was the final number I don’t even remember the final number but look let me let me tell you so look at the end when I when I no they

Was like six man six man about at the end when go to look at the tab and I don’t never be on no disrespectful J like especially to the vets all all the Vets Rock With Me CU they know I’m solid you know what I’m saying I’m always keeping it 100 100 so

I look at the tag I look over I say hey I ain’t gonna lie I ain’t paying this and I wasn’t even on no arrogant type it was just the principle it came off those platters and none of the Vets ordered the platters so it’s like hey bro I ain’t

Like I don’t know what y’all want me to tell y’all feel me I ain’t paying this you know what I’m saying and they could know where I’m coming from because they know I ain’t trying to be on no cocky junk or nothing like that they like Dam why they do that you know

What I’m saying so they go in with me the my our bets my bets they went in with me on the on the bill so I think I end up ended up being like eight BS nine BS right so did you go so you should have winning on the bill this year n

That was different though cuz like this year is stuff that everybody already had ordered like everything menu was ordered you know what I’m saying was no extra yeah it was no extra like oh we we went to a different spot than last than the year I had went to you know what I’m

Saying I would I would have looked out if they would have tried to get over on cuz I ain’t I ain’t even gonna watch somebody try to get over on my dogs you know what I’m saying hey that was just unfortunate the vet the vet was feeling a little you

Know feeling a little you know Junior SE ordered two bottles of Louis the 13th on the way out and took him home on me think about that dinner done was going like five like about seven seven bands of piece in in the restaurant and he got

One for the table and pulled it up his shots and he took one in the Box home God rested so June bug love him to death but yeah man they hit us in the head they got nice yo look don’t never be too rich to ask for the itemized copy or the

Bill cuz down in Miami you hang out they give you a table minimum cuz girl B the table chicks used to trick us back in the day they give you the itemize they don’t give you the itemized bill they just bring you the ending copy exactly you owe 10 grand that’s definitely what

I did I did that I said I want to know how much it it is for each one that’s how I was able to see that them them uh what going for going platters though I ain’t going to lie it was something crazy I thought they I thought they was

Looking at I thought it was on the house thought it was free oh it was on the house bro it’s like some steak with like a bro damn I don’t know how to word this yeah y was e the wagu the A5 yeah but it’s like the it was like a like the

Steak was like this though you know what I’m saying he thought he thought he was getting over he was like shoot these boys eat this this for the free yeah I’m good $6,000 they got over they got over on me you know headed into year three though

Sauce man this will be the last one uh for me you’ve had the individual success you always talk about team you always talk about winning what is it going to take that if we’re sitting here at this time next year what is it going to take

For the New York Jets to be a playoff team hey just believing you know what I’m saying we going to make sure the pieces there everybody just believing in their ability to be great you know we got the leaders that lead by example and we got the V vocal leaders as well you

Know what I’m saying so everybody like the way I came in as a as a rookie I was always watching the Vets you know what I’m saying so we get that from the younger guys that come in just watching us lead by example you know they all

Goingon to fall in line you know they gonna love being in New York Jet I lied I have one more question you know with what was said on our podcast a couple of weeks ago it’s not just about the players do you believe in special teams offensively and defensively you guys

Have not only the players but the coaching staff to win big in this league most definitely you know I meant to say that early when you said what it’s going to look like complimentary football you know offense defense special teams you know we got the coaches we definitely

Got the coaches to give us a great game plan make it happen we got the players to go out there and execute you know we just got to make it happen can I hold your chain for tonight I don’t know that look I’m going tell you why I would you

Know but I can’t trust that you going to come back with it Ain no chance in hell I’m going to come back with yeah that’s what I’m saying I’m saying appreciate you dog appreciate yes sir appreciate you my boy sir hold up liit it I here to witness it my feeling

Milit feeling get me up on the mission get me up know me I got the key on Vision I can trust trust Limitless n ping it I F the here to witness it get my people feeling militant way I’m feeling get me Miss get me up