Episode 211: When Dolphins Podcasts Unite Part II

All Dolphins Publisher Alain Poupart and columnist Omar Kelly are joined for a very special edition of the All Dolphins Podcast by Simon Clancy and Alfredo Arteaga of the Three Yards Per Carry Podcast for a roundtable discussion about the Dolphins, their biggest needs, Tua and his contract situation, and more. As a reminder, to ask questions for podcast Q&As, email fnalldolphins@yahoo.com or follow Omar at @OmarKelly and be on the lookout for his call for questions. Same email address for questions for the AllDolphins.com mailbags or follow Alain at @PoupartNFL.

Hey everyone welcome to episode 21 of the all dolphins podcast on this Wednesday January 31st 2024 last day of January see know how to read a calendar as you can see on the screen we are joined today by two esteemed guests Alfredo Arteaga in the bottom right

Corner Simon Clancy in the bottom left corner for another episode of what is it Omar when podcast worlds unite these are actually are uh five reasons uh Bren uh joining us so it’s it’s an honor to be part of a a podcast team um for those who don’t know these

Gentlemen they’ve got a a podcast how many times do you guys tape a week twice but sometimes we could go as many as three times because we do a Q&A show on Discord so but the actual three of us twice twice a week yeah twice a

Week um and and then the Discord I I would love for you guys to explain that just because that seems to be the new wave of of media and I notice Simon has abandoned us out out on those Twitter streets um and and has taken all of his

His knowledge to Discord so what’s that experience like it’s I mean I’m not sure that’s strictly true I I run this very difficult balance of living in the UK where not that many people follow the NFL and so having to sort of balance a load of different worlds in terms of

Sporting likes and I so I tend to post about the NFL when everybody else in the UK’s gone to sleep which is and then operates for you guys in the evening so the Discord thing’s fun actually it’s a decent community of people and there’s lots of kind of I suppose lots of people

That were a bit uh felt a bit uncomfortable about social media about Twitter and X as it became and and some of the the things that were happening on there so it’s kind of a it’s a nicely moderated bunch of people yeah I think so moderated bunch of people from across

The globe who kind of come together with a common go I know that sounds cheesy but it’s kind of I you I had been part of a Discord for gaming community and and I know the young my son is part of discords for his Gaming Community and it’s just people who have common

Interests and and they share and they talk about it and it I guess you don’t necessarily get attacked as much on as you do on because because exactly that because it’s kind of nicely moderated I think and and I suppose for whatever reason I I think Al Chris and myself built up a

Tiny bit of cache over the years which I think probably just helps people moderate themselves as well actually and kind of builds a little sense of would you say a little sense of community that everybody feels kind of welcome and it’s a nice little place to chat dolphin

Stuff really yeah and me and Chris essentially run the place with an iron fist too that helps you out there cracking a whip huh okay yeah but but it’s a really good Community we have we have over 2,000 members right now uh you can become a member at

Discord.gg onlyin we do film study we’re gonna be doing some stuff on the Senior Bowl and draft season is always big on there we always have a lot of content during draft season yeah Simon is a guy that I lean on for draft knowledge I’m looking forward to your draft guide

Simon um you know I begin this process at the Senior Bowl I think is today’s practice on television today not sure actually not sure I am watching it right now so oh okay so that means I’m missing it okay um actually Omar they had that on

Yesterday oh damn um let’s get into some of this Dolphins conversation uh obviously this is going to be a difficult off season um I I I initially told people about the apocalypse that was coming and everybody started throwing stones at me telling me Oh you’re such a hater you’re such a hater

Why are you worried about then when we we need to enjoy this season well you you you won 11 games wasn’t all negative even though the season ended on quite a negative slide uh but now you have this challenge of rebuilding this team building this roster and I would argue

To you that the roster and the team that they had around Tu aong of aloa last year probably will never be any better than it was last year and they were going to have some serious challenges building it back this year what do you think about their cap situation and also

How do you handle the Wilkins decision Al do you want to take that first or yeah uh on Christian Wilkins I was initially really really optimistic that they would get that done and if they wouldn’t get it done they would just tag them I don’t think that that’s

Happening anymore I don’t think you could tie up 21 million dollars you don’t think the tag is happening no I don’t think that’s happening and and if you look at it I wrote it down uh you got to get him somewhere in between DeForest Buckner Jason hardgrave and Dexter Lawrence I

Don’t think he’s going to accept that because that’s gonna place somewhere he’s not gonna accept that that’s gonna be somewhere around fifth highest paid defensive tackle in the NFL so and it’ll give them an average of about 21 a year it’s not you know it is Florida so I’m

Pretty sure they’re GNA do a pretty good sell job on him but the more I look at it if he’s goingon to insist to be in that quinnon Williams Aaron Donald realm then he is likely out of here and I think you let him walk you don’t tag him

You let him walk uh I would try to tag him and try to get try to monetize him try to get something out of him so that’s going to be up to Chris Greer to see what he can get you talking transition or franchise franchise okay

And then try to trade him yes try to get at least the second round pick for him not you’re gon to have to let walk and take the and take the compensatory pick so what’s supposed nobody you find nobody on the street who wants to to

Take him up and just he’s here on the franchise tag then and he is the sacrifice for the following year for the rest of the roster when they have to pay everybody else and you’re just going to have to let him walk for essentially nothing so it’s a gamble that they’re

Gonna have to take this off season but they could head all that off if he could accept something in that real which I don’t think he will you you had your chance for him to be compromising uh last off season and you basically boted that opportunity and

And I was in full support of it he had not performed like an elite player he he had nobody of work that showed that he was an elite player and then he said okay I’m going to show you and here it is now how do you deal with it Simon

Yeah I think I mean I think a year ago the Dolphins wanted to pay him like Green Bay play paid Kenny Clark and I think Christian wanted to be paid as the best DT in football and I think the Dolphins bolt it rightly because he didn’t have the sack numbers and then he

Turned in this year where he was as dominant as you could possibly hope for and he delivered on sack numbers and I think now he wants to be paid probably quite rightly as the best or one of the top two or three defensive tackles in the market that might get reset with the

Chris Jones deal but I was in his postgame I was in the postgame press conference after the chief’s defeat in the playoffs and he was at the podium and obviously there was a sense of real disappointment but I think you could you take away I think if you were to speak

To any of the other beat guys that were there I was stood next to Adam Beasley and and bees and I said look I think he’s gone he’s died you just got the sense that that was his final moment in Miami that I don’t think he expected to

Be back and the impression I got from Chris Greer’s press conference a couple of days later was that he probably would be allowed to test the market if there was a market out there for him but I think Miami have to you they have to try

And get back into that third and fourth round you can’t go for a team that need has so many holes and only has a one or two and a five you have to try and get back into that two and three area and I think tagging him and trading him um you

Know is the only way forward I don’t think you’ll get a first round pick for him because I think the team that wants to take him on is obviously going have to turn him into the highest paid DT in football as well as giving up draft Capital so I think that’s the wisest

Decision you’d love to be able to keep the guy and there are significant holes on the defensive line currently with only really uh Zack Cala under contract but I just don’t think you can keep everybody um what is fair what is fair value for Christian Wilkins if if if

We’re putting Christian on the trade block which clearly uh three reasons uh three three yards a carry is is is doing what do we what do we hope to get back cuz I’m not I’m not giving up a first round pick for Christian and I don’t

Think any team is no AG I think if you can get a second round pick you’re extremely happy you’re dancing in the streets you know and you work from there I think a two and a four a two and a five a three and a four I think you know

I think if Chris Greer came away and got back into that third and fourth round area I think secretly be pretty happy yeah uh a price for Josh Rosen incidentally I would I would I would REM mind Omar because Omar loved that trade oh yeah I love that trade I really

Really wanted that trade to happen um two two quick points if I may from my end uh and I will keep it brief I will allow Our Guest to to do most of the talking but two quick points um what I would say about about what Wilkins had

Not shown in his first four years more so than just sack was to be an impact player with the pass rushing and it’s not just strictly about the number of sacks is about affecting the quarterback and he wasn’t really doing that the first four years and last year I mean

The nine sacks were great even beyond that when he wasn’t seconding the quarterback he was creating havoc and then number two if if I’m if I would read Wilkins correctly it’d be like okay you made me wait a year I’m gonna jump a top everybody else

Who signed last year and to me he’s gonna ask for for higher money than any DT other than Aaron Aaron Donald and Chris Jones yeah because those guys are up there in terms of of talent here here’s my area of of discomfort um I can make the argument to you guys and I

Think because both of you do film study you would you would see where I’m coming from I can argue that Zack seeler was just as impactful if not more than Christian Wilkins and how do I justify paying a guy $8 million a year which is what I’m paying Zack seeler and then

Another guy $20 million a year and we’ve been in this situation before where you create that Dynamic where xaven Howard Brandon Jones and I’m not saying that zacher is better than Christian but they’re at least on equal playing field so I think you have to ask the question

Is Zack seeler as good a player as he is because of Christian Wilkins or is he a as good a player as as he is despite CHR you know without Christian Wilkins being there and I suspect we’ll find out this year I think he’s probably aided why how

Couldn’t he be by by Wilkins ability and I think Wilkins having an effect on CA is bigger than the effect that CA has on Wilkins um and I suspect we’ll see that next year depending on who they bring in alongside him but you could also say that Wilkins was positively aided by

Seeler and end 100% And the coverage yeah course you can you can make that argument you’ve got two Elite quarterbacks on the boundaries they were locking down things and allowing them to set a franchise record so now I even though I said okay we want to see the

Sack numbers Christian shows the sack numbers am I paying for the product of the defense or am I paying for Christian so it’s going to be a very interesting negotiations but then you look at things like you know he led the NFL in terms of defensive tackles in tackles in run

Stops in Run Stop win percentage in batted passes you know these are extra things that people don’t necessarily take into consideration when you’re weighing up his impact as a pass Russia there are a myriad other things that that made Christian Wilkins the the elite defensive lineman that he turned

Into hold Omar let me chime in that I’m going to say I completely agree with Simon when he makes a point that se benefited from having Wilkins next to him more than Wilkins benefited from seeler as much as I like seeler yeah and I do too I think he’s next no that was

Your point I completely and and I and I think they’re all going to look at the cost benefit of paying somebody $21 million to play defensive tackle because if you look at the highest paid defensive tackles the ones that went the farthest I got them right here it’s

Vitaa Kenny Clark Ed Oliver they all went to the divisional round and they all average $17 million a year which is where they wanted to be with Christian Wilkins last there’s an interesting situation that I think Miami might let play out which is Baltimore’s decision on Justin madri who’s also a free agent

Um LED all defensive tackles this season uh obviously went to the AFC Championship game was a first team All Pro I I think he might reset the market in terms of defensive tackle uh contracts and I wonder whether Miami just wait to see what happens with that

Before they do anything decisive you got to get ahead of that you well yeah and and and here’s the thing um this and and this is the final point on the Christian Wilkins decision we all know Christian is is consument businessman and is very know what you want to say no

No no no he’s Christian’s about his business and you know that was a business decision you made him play with the risk of the injury all season and now you as a franchise you’re going to pay for it because if you think it’s going to be easy to sign Christian

Wilkins especially before the start of the free agency which is why I I say you know even though you’re $52 million in dead cap you you got to clear $72 million because you got to make room to tag Christian on March 8th because that’s pretty much the only way that

You’re going to retain him you need to buy yourself some time because if not you might as well offer him the highest paid defensive tackle contract right now because that’s the only way he’s goingon to sign not when I’m saying highest paid I’m I’m talking about right under Aaron

Donald and and Chris Jones I think if he’s the third highest paid defensive tackle in the game I think maybe you get a deal done if anything below that I think you might as well just slap him with the tag and buy yourself some time another thing another thing to look at I

Think that the the team is conscious about the expenditure in each unit and if you look at that number and they pay let’s say they pay rayon Davis at market and they pay deshun Han at Market all that’s left to take them right to number one as far as the highest expenditure is

$21 million so they just don’t have the money to pay Christian Wilkins they don’t have the money to pay anybody Alfredo and this is the problem this is a huge problem who do they have the money to pay of course and when you consider the the injuries then to chub

Van Ginko and Phillips in terms of they’ve got to do that there is literally Zack Cela is the only defensive lineman uh I mean Emanuel ogba is not going to be retained but you’re throwing cam good Cameron Good’s injured yeah who what do they do how do they

Affect a pass rush from interior and exterior because before October that is an excellent question 100% how do they do it how you know and they only have you know the first and the second rounder and then fifth two six and the seventh it’s not an easy job to do and

They’re capped up to the eyeballs already they’re they’re going to have to sign as the whole roster will be built the back end of the roster minimum salary onee guys and and pretend like it’s going to be okay but hey that’s their issue this is the mess that they

Made and obviously Steve Ross is going to write the big fat check to try to buy themselves another time give them another credit card uh let’s move hold on hold on MAR let me one last point on this rayan’s not getting to me not getting any kind of decent money because

They have so many other needs to address and he’s not doesn’t impact the game nearly enough and he’s not on the field nearly enough to where he’s gonna get money he probably can get somewhere else I think I would say the same thing with Van GLE I’m not taking a $2.5

Million contract for Miami again I’m at at least doubling up and I’m getting 5 million injured or not from somebody else um so they’re they’re in a tough spot um let let’s let’s move on to some of these needs we we we talk about where

This team is and and Simon brought it up and I you know I’ve done a a a offens and defensive breakdown I know you guys are doing positional breakdowns on a on a weekly basis on on your podcast uh three yards per carry where do you think

Thisam team has their top three needs heading into free agency and then heading into the draft and I and I say this because I say this in that order because people don’t realize you can sit here and obsess about what draft picks and you could follow mock drafts and you

Could you know we don’t have a clue what this team is going to look like until free agency’s two weeks in so and your needs might completely be something polar opposite depending on how you proceed with this building this roster so Al Alfredo what what are what are

Your thoughts on what are the top three needs for this Dolphins team moving forward to 2024 I think they got to start and stay with the interior offensive line that’s going to be extremely important and I think on the defensive side of the ball they’re going

To have to do some work in the secondary because I don’t think that xaven Howard’s going to be back this season so once you get past those two then you could get into the areas where could augment the team a little bit and you know they’re going to have to they’re

Going to have to really thread the needle on the defensive line because like Simon said if they played a thank God they don’t play a game tomorrow because if they played a game tomorrow they’d just be Zack seeler and Brandon peely standing out there with nobody else around them so they’re gonna have

To do some work there they’re gonna have to retain Andrew van GLE that’s a lot of work but you gotta start and essentially end in the interior offensive line you got to shore up left guard Center Right Guard because that’s what makes your quarterback I have seen your

Work hammering this and you know I’m an offensive line lover I I absolutely love it I really don’t yes it were backups and it the game changed drastically when Conor Williams was was out of the lineup um I think Conor Williams was the number one defense offensive lineman that they

Had on the team um this past season I have no idea where he’s going to be from a health standpoint I’m assuming he’s going to be fully clear probably in October um you know I don’t know how people think these AC magically heal themselves in 6 months it’s that’s not the reality

But I am not of the opinion that the backups they weren’t good but they were not the problem are you saying that they were the problem Al I’m saying that Lester Contin is not a starting quality left guard I’m saying that Robert Jones is one-dimensional and I’m saying that Liam mikenberg is

Strictly a backup center in this league and when you have teron Armstead Robert hunt and Conor Williams your three best offensive lineman play less than 50% of the snaps in the season your season is essentially short circuited before Jaylen Phillips got injured on Black Friday and before Bradley chub got

Injured against Baltimore so but they can’t have that they kept them a float they kept them in the AFC Championship Game to Baltimore with with leam mikenberg as a starting center and and you know you say what you want about Liam mikenberg I don’t think he played

Badly in that float it kept them afloat but eventually you run out of buckets to bail water out of the boat you know and they drowned the last month of the Season yeah I think protecting that that interior that offensive line has needs significant work to to touch back on

Your question and the the situation with Toronto Alstead worries me as well when he’s playing 50% you know and he’s not we’re not going to go into the next season and he’s going to play 75% or 90% of the snaps he’s getting older and older and older and unfortunately as

Good as he is that that’s going to decrease you don’t know the powers of magical medicine and blood doping and you know all this kind of other stuff Simon come on very true that is very true I don’t goes to Germany in the off seon

That’s a good sign huh what you say if if Armstead shows up in Germany in the offseason that’s a very good sign or he you know says he’s gonna take part in the Tour of France that’s also a good sign in terms of you know blood

Situation but um and to me that so the interior the defensive line the offensive line is is for me the number one concern I think Daniel Jeremiah had it right the other day and I I I think we’ll get on to two in a minute but he

Said that you can absolutely win a Super Bowl with Tua uh and but he said the way that you can win it is that you have to have to get HomeField Advantage but you have to provide him with better Talent around it people say what do you mean

Better Talent he’s got Tyreek Hill and jayen W and he has and and they’re excellent but I think this team has a Tyreek Hill problem I think they target Hill way too much uh I think the backup receivers I.E from W is fine but on downwards baros Wilson craft asuk cam uh

Chosen Etc were just not up to the you know up to the test when the two front guys got hurt and I think that when Jeremiah said that you know if I was Chris ker and Mike McDaniel I’d be looking heavily at investing a high pick in another wide receiver I don’t think

They were too far off the Mark I think you just need to provide tour with as many weapons as possible uh to make it as difficult as possible for for defenses to try and counter what you can do on offense and and look Mike McDaniel

We know what he does we know what he brings to the table we know that he’s going to be in the lab uh this offseason looking at how to make that offense better and I think that only works with with even more talented receiver and running back and tight end etc etc just

People that can can make plays and you know I think that’s how you go with Tua uh uh uh let me let me counter what you said Simon because I don’t disagree with you in regards to they it was the receiver unit was not good enough um

They were missing a slot receiver and I know people view Tyreek as a slot receiver but you what what you’re missing is a Jarvis Landry slot receiver a a guy who gives you that toughness that physicality that can C catch the pass over the middle and I know

Everybody thinks that’s a tight end but it doesn’t necessarily have to be a tight end but you said and this is where I I got a little bit uncomfortable you said that it should come through the draft and I’m thinking to myself I’ve been here for two years I know the

Struggles that rookies have learning this offense yeah that that’s a huge role of the dice to have to wait on a a rookie receiver to learn the offense even if position hu I mean look at Eric ezukanma who’s you know struggle to pick I know you know there’s there’s a an

Issue in terms of a you know medical or or whatever with Eric but um you look at the fact that you look at the fact that you know he’d never taken a snap he’d never taken a play call in a huddle in his entire life at Texas Tech everything

Came in from the sideline in high school everything came in from the sideline he was literally learning how to take in plays and and the verbiage that comes with that in an NFL huddle um so yeah look draft is an Ideal World scenario but you you know there are players out

There I look at Western kuy’s Malachi kley who would be a Debo Samuel type in a Mike McDaniel offense um but you know can they get up to speed immediately that’s a massive problem and when I spoke to McDaniel in Frankfurt when he was over and we had that back and forth

He said to me that you know I asked him about his scheme and the development of his scheme into next season and how he would look to keep one step ahead of defensive coordinators and he was like it’s not my scheme that’s the thing that everybody doesn’t realize he said I I

Essentially he said I know it sounds obvious but I essentially build it around the players and and what they do best is How I build plays now if you’re removing the two best players Hill and W because of injuries because they’re being targeted so much because they’re

Being hit so much because they’re having to run so so much if you remove the two best players who do everything as well as they do how can you build an offense when you have such a golf between number one and number two and then three four five six

On down that is a very difficult dichotomy for Mike McDaniel to have to solve in the in the offseason because that unit has to get better it has to otherwise everything he’s trying to do gets gets let down poop how do you improve this oh uh yeah you were going

To say something else yeah uh to that end on nextg stats their separation numbers it’s interesting because yes Hill and waddle are right there at the top they’re both in the top 10 in separation numbers there’s no other dolphin in the top 100 number 100 is Devonte Parker at two yards of

Separation so that tells you pretty much everything you need to know there are four New England Patriots in the top 100 there are two dolphins in the top 100 so is there a minimum uh number of receptions or targets to make that list it’s a I think

It’s a snap count they had to have at least 200 snap 200 snaps yeah and all those guys pretty much I find I have a hard time believing that Devonte Parker would would get more separation than anybody on the dolphin roster including including Tyler Croft uh one of the

Questions I think heading into the season or into the offseason is whether or not they look to move Devon Anan to a more uh receiver role potentially to make use of his route running which is excellent his speed um I I don’t know I mean they can you know you can almost

See like a reverse Deo Samuel role whereas you know aan still runs the ball he does not have the physicality for that and I know he’s not does he have the physicality to be a running back you know he’s he’s manufacture touch you have to manufacture Touches for him

Because he’s so explosive he’s so good uh you know but how do you do that can you continue to can you continue to live in a world where he probably only plays 10 games a season because you know of what you’re trying to do with him in the

Back field so do you make it that you manufacture Touches for him out of the slot do you you know I mean they they do that they they they actually did that do you do it more how much more can you do it and how much more I I I’ll be

Interested to see how much more McDaniel pushes that in the offseason in terms of trying to get him the ball more but not in scenarios where he’s going to get hit at speed by multiple people at the same time which will you know tissue injuries and all those sort

That doed him a little bit it’s why I’d send him on Wheel right on Wheel routes quite a bit I mean keep him on the outside take advantage of his speed and he he’s I mean who do you cover him with yeah I mean go back to the Washington

Game and the touchdown to to Hill in the first quarter he was I mean on if Tu looks to the other side he’s got six yards of separation and a touchdown on the other side of the field because he was one-on-one with the corner and you

Know he absolutely blew past him so you know there are going to be opportunities to raan down the field in terms of the passing game so that will be interesting to see if they’re struggling to get a receiver to you know you look at someone like Joan Jennings who plays with the

49ers who is a McDaniel acolyte essentially was drafted under McDaniel played under him is an outstanding blocker and so understands the Nuance of the offense immediately you have to think that somebody like that is somebody that they would be looking to bring in as a high priority free agent

Uh just because he knows exactly what the score is in terms of how the offense worked and the and the machinations of of making it work that’s a phenomenal name uh free agency Simon I’m going to have to keep an eye on that um poop your your thoughts on how to improve this

This team well one one more thing about hn also in the Buffalo game the first pick down the middle of the field deep to Tyreek hn was running on the outside and he also looked like the defender was kind of leaving him to go double Tyreek

So yeah I think that’s the way to use hn uh not necessarily running in between the tackles 20 times a game or 15 times a game while the first thing the Dolphins have to do is they have to figure out what they’re going to do with their offensive line in their free

Agents kend lamb Conor Williams Robert hunt um if I would imagine they’re going to do their best to retain two two not all three of them um if they do I don’t think that the offensive line is a screaming need uh they do have this issues on on the on

The defensive line while I agree with the point that they need to beef up the wide receiver core I would play Devil’s Advocate about the issue of of featuring Tyreek too much on offense because I’m of the opinion that Tyreek is what makes this off and special oh agree sorry no I

Agree with you 100% I agree with you 100% And that’s the thing and then if you deemphasize him and there’s certainly some Merit to that it makes you more difficult but is two a tua if he can’t throw to Tyreek 20 times a game will he have the same degree of success

And I don’t know I am not even though I’m a theour hater I am not closing the door on anything except that I haven’t seen it yet therefore I still question what the ceiling is depending on circumstances how far far they can go with him how far they can go if Tyreek

Is not the focal point of the offense um I happen to think that Eric ukama could be a big factor player next year because of what I yeah I do actually because of what I saw in training camp his rookie year and then with the way that they

Used them in different ways running the ball um last summer and so why did you if if you believed in that why why they shove him at the midseason with a neck injury well obviously I don’t think they shoved him for you actually think that they was a wink wink neck injury that

Silent him for the rest of the year I I’m pretty sure come back and if you chose River Craycraft over him then that’s the choice that you made and River Craycraft if obviously ukama has a different level of physicality to him and I love River Craycraft just like the

Next guy but let’s be real if if Eric ukama could really help you would you would you have played Chase Claypool over him would you have played Robbie chosen over him see but you’re suggesting there’s a choice and and I I’m going to believe that actually there

Was an issue with the neck where it was more cautious for them to sit him out the entire season so let me finish answering the question then what I would do to improve the team I think quarterback’s going to be a screaming need because I’m with you Al there I

Don’t think there’s no way the Dolphins can justify paying x what he’s owed because he’s gotten injured the last couple of years that play has dipped a little bit and as with teron uh when you get older the injury situation doesn’t all of a sudden get

Better it just goes the other way now to the fun conversation alal pupart is always looking forward to um the Tua how do you handle the proposal um do you do you do you do you ask him to marry you or do you try to

Drag out this uh do you set a date or do you try to drag out this engagement a little while longer by making him Possibly play on the fifth year option and maybe the franchise tag next year or do you lock him up to a multi-year deal now and at what

Price you can have that bone hand grenade Al yeah let me just add one last thing to on the pass on the pass catchers you can see it on the all 22 especially down the stretch yeah uh they had Durham SMI running Corner routes they had him running scissors concepts with Tyreek

Hill the Ravens even the Cowboys the Ravens the bills especially the chiefs were absolutely ignoring Durham SMI if you’re going to have somebody run the those routes you need somebody that the defense will respect because if not you’re essentially just drawing double coverage to Tyreek every time you line

Up Duram SM on his side now on Al was he not open though on on some of those and ignored uh he was open on a couple uh that’s not that’s not a Derm Smite problem then that’s but it’s it’s one of those things uh Tua looks over there because both

Guys over there and he’s thinking Durham SMI or Tyreek Hill I’m telling you it’s not going to get any better they have no intentions of throwing to a tight end none the tight end is an additional blocker and he might be out there as an outlet receiver that that’s just part

Not part of their offense at all um but but let’s let’s get to the what the meat of what everybody is here for I we need a game plan Al of how to handle Tua well if I’m his agent you know I I could take

A pretty hard line okay can but if hold on with a fragile quarterback you’re going to take a hard line the guy is top three top five in every single quarterback category the last two years of a four-year career yes I take a very very hard line with the dolphins hard

Line at what price point I want to be in the Justin Herbert conversation as far as contract that’s 50 a year I believe you’re saying yes now that’s me talking as his agent as his agent Okay so if I’m the Dolphins I’m trying to get them in Hardline stance you want last year’s

Price this year yes okay and I want it longterm I want the same guarantee that Justin Herbert got $33.7 million fully guaranteed and 193 guaranteed for injury plus $1 ah you’re not gonna get that $ one but so you than anything else five years $263 million pretty much that

That’s me talking as his agent and and I think agent you’re a good agent and Al you’re a good Agent not realistic but you’re a good Agent but if I’m the Dolphins I’m trying to getting I’m trying to get him in under that I want to guarantee somewhere

Around5 120 something that’s near 40 a year that’s what I want to guarante you’re really trying to pay me 40 a year pretending like I’m making 50 a year precisely okay okay why should I sign this because we have a good system here it’s Miami it’s a good place to be rich

Okay okay you’re going to be a rich man to so why not be rich here4 million is a lot different than $50 million Rich that’s a lot of but if you’re gonna get $50 million in Washington DC it’s like getting 40 in Miami Florida you know okay so it’s going to

Take a cell job but I I don’t think it’s going to be that difficult of a cell job he’s had an injury situation okay he still has a little bit more to prove all right uh the numbers are there but the numbers haven’t been there in some of

The biggest games so there’s there’s plenty to hold up against him but as far as the necessity of getting it done I think it’s imperative they have this is the biggest challenge they have this off season because you cannot have that charge come online of $24 million yeah

You can when you have to pay other yeah you can yeah you can you absolutely can I mean that’s just restructuring three other guys and I mean it for one year of or two years of relief I you know I I actually do agree with Allan whereas we’re really talking

About do you want to lock up to it for three years at 120 to $140 million and I don’t know how I feel about that I I’m I’m way more comfortable if I if I give him the fifth year option at $23 million and then give him a franchise tag at $38

Million that’s a lot different than $120 million and you know and it does not give him the vote of confidence that he probably needs but then your performance didn’t necessarily give us the vote of confidence and that we kind of need it um and it wasn’t all on him and i’ be

The first to say I’m sorry a lot of those players his top four offensive weapons were out there playing at 70% at their best your offensive line the interior was mediocre at their best so and you’re playing upper echelon defenses and upper echelon quarterbacks and everybody puts it on Tua which I

Don’t think is necessarily fair but let’s not pretend like he wasn’t given one minute and 53 seconds against the Buffalo Bills and poop the bed yeah I I kind of tend to agree with you Omar rather than Drew Rosen Al down there in terms of the uh the agent I I I

I think any contract would be one of the more unique contracts we’ve ever seen in the NFL because of what’s happened both physically and on the field and I say this as a as a tour fan as I am but I am also understanding of the fact that he’s

10 and 11 against teams with winning records um that for the second season running we had a a late season collapse um that whilst you don’t completely put in his hands as you’ve said you know there are certainly issues there my my biggest concern has always been that in

The very biggest moments he hasn’t stepped up and carried the team on his shoulders he did so somewhat against Dallas you know and more power to him my don’t short him the Chargers no what I was about to say my disappoint we one week one Chargers yeah that Chargers are

Super Bowl team week one don’t take it away from his best game of the season was the first game of the season um and it was an awesome I don’t think we should take anything away from how good his performance was and I don’t think what happened to the Chargers subsequent

Was reflective of his performance on that day because just had every single player playing healthy out there defensively offensively Justin Herbert everybody and there were four-point favorites at home don’t foret and there were four point favorites at home and I think his performance there was extraordinary um and especially in the

Fourth quarter um but he did things in that game uh moving the pocket uh Etc he had the third down throw where he moved the pocket to baros he had the big throw to Tyreek where he stepped up in the pocket and threw through the big ball

Down the field that you sort of didn’t see later in the season and whether or not that was nervousness about the offensive line I I think his inability to create out of structure is the thing that concerns me the most and I think if you look that guy over there yeah and I

Think if you look at what happen but I think it’s true Allan I think if you look at you know the the four teams this you know this weekend past in terms of the you know Jared gof less so uh but Brock pie we saw his ability to escape

Out the pocket to make plays rolling obviously we know about Mahomes and Lamar and it’s just that thing with Tua and you wonder whether or not that’s a mental thing in terms of the offense is so prescriptive that he has to get the ball out because it’s so timing or

Whether or not it’s a mental thing thinking that I almost retired this time last year and I have to get the ball out because if I get hit again that could be the end so it’s a really difficult one I think I as a pure businessman if I was

Chris Greer taking that phone call from Al that he talked about I would be like I’m absolutely zero chance you’re getting Justin Herbert money I think that I would let him play on the fifth year and potentially franchise him because there are still question marks I

Want to see answered before I invest the future in in him the problem with two is that he’s really good is he good enough but then the flip side to that is that he’s probably better than 75 80% of the quarterbacks in the league anyway and if

You give up on Tua you’re giving up on Mike McDaniel essentially because they are so well married together um and you got to start again with somebody else who doesn’t have some of the superpowers and he does have superpowers the accuracy the timing those sorts of

Things that are so key to what McDaniel wants to do so it’s a really difficult one but I think I would make him play on the on the fifth year and see where we go in a year’s time and for those and for those that are thinking that like

This is outrageous to be holding him up it did happen already it happened with Lamar Jackson so it’s a business Al as well it’s a business it’s not just you know I’m sure and Omar and Alan will deal with him all the time he’s a likable whenever I’ve dealt with him

He’s a likable character I spoke to him number of times on the phone when he was at Alabama I’ve I’ve spoken to him as a player in Miami and I found him likable and friendly and honest and open and his teammates clearly love him but it’s a

Business at the end of the day and you’ve got to make business decisions about about players and you know it’s about the name on the front not the name on the back and that’s the you know that’s a key thing I think that Dolphins fans have to remember um poop hard obviously your

Position is well entrenched and and are you a little do you have a little bit more comfort that Alf I mean Simon agrees with you fifth year and tag uh no I mean I’ve always respected Simon’s football knowledge and he’s once again proved it by agreeing with my

Position that it should be fifth year option and then tag if two a balls out and then this is actually as I’ve said before this is a great scenario for the Dolphins because I mean is it so bad that this it’s going to C cost him financially down the stretch but if Tua

Answers the questions that remain I can he step up at crunch time against good defenses then I think the Dolphins are going to be okay with paying whatever more it might cost them down the road while having more clarity and more certainty about having answered the questions that still remain and Alpha I

Do want to counter your point that you’re throwing out top three in a lot of statistical categories while if we’re not blaming him if we’re not blaming him when things South we need to accept the fact that the speed with which he operates on offense IE Tyreek Hill who’s

The biggest difference maker of any also has to be factored in when we talk about you know the the yardage and all that um and this is where because yes I do think there are a lot of quarterbacks who could step into this offense and have similar results and maybe they

Would perform better at crunchin see that’s where I would disagree with you I don’t I think so you look at people like you listen to people like CT Warner and people like that and they talk about how people don’t and I don’t think anybody really understands the complexity of

Everything that he is in control of on that like you go over there if and if you and I were to go over to park right the three of three of the four of us would to go over to the local park with a ball and I was throwing to Omar but I

Was looking at you and then because you were stood over there but I was throw that’s quite difficult just the three of us stood in the park right try and do it when some of the best athletes in the world are moving around in front of you

You’ve got and I’m not trying to defend the guy at all no except Simon I’m sorry hold on exactly we we’re taking what four plays out of 400 passes no no no no no he does that so often he does that probably about eight times this notion

This notion of he’s looking one way and throwing another way you’re talking about hold on a second if you’re talking about when he’s looking one way to get the defense to move and then throwing over here that’s called looking off your receiver no no I’m not talking about

That what I’m I’m not talking about what say what Matthew Stafford did on that final drive of the Super Bowl when they beat the B I’m not talking about stuff like that what I’m talking about is two two receivers on the same pattern in the same area and he’s looking at and

There’s only a five yard difference but it’s the it’s the Ia and you saw it quite a lot with the um you could see it more sometimes on some of the hard kns practice stuff in terms of how it is not two or three times a game this is seven

Eight nine 10 times and Defenders you talk about it in the Houston joint practices where the Houston Defenders were talking about that and you know and then they came up to him and they told him you know the final practice play where the the safety intercepted it and

He was like yeah you weren’t going to get me with that eye with that eye eye trick thing you do and it’s it it is part of his superpower um I don’t think Allan gives him the praise and respect that he is warrants in terms of throwing the spots eye discipline looking off

Linebackers freezing linebackers throwing to creating cre QB 101 looking off Defenders it’s called 101 but not a lot of QBs can do it1 but not QB 101 but maybe 10 out of the 32 QBs in the where did you put him in where did you put them in our

Rankings yesterday where’d you have him like 13 14 13 12 or be consistent okay so and I had but but I spoke to Nick Bolton after the Chiefs playoff game and Bolton said to me that it is one of the most exhausting things to do having to play t

Because of how he makes you think on every single play because you don’t know what he’s doing because of the way that he manipulates and he says it’s not manipulation like looking over there and throwing over here it’s just this this Lane here freezes and he’s just he says

In a way that’s more difficult because it’s easier in a way to move your body to do what Stafford did in the Super Bowl than to do what Tua does because the the lanes and the gaps that he’s throwing into are so much more narrow and they’re so much more occupied

Because it’s so many second level throws and he said that’s the difficulty is that you are having to concentrate the entire time because you just aren’t 100% sure of what he’s gonna he said and what he might do is he’ll look you off three times and throw look outside throw

Inside look outside throw inside and then you step one way and he throws back the way that you always thought he was intending to throw and he said that’s what makes it so difficult to work out so I do think there is a level of difficulty that we as fans and

Journalists and and all this probably don’t quite grasp in the same way that maybe some of the Defenders that that go up against him do but I think once you get him off that then he can be more easy to manipulate hence why it goes back to the entire conversation that we

Talked about about a protecting him and B giving giving him more weapons because I think lots of things have to be perfect for Tua to win big and I I don’t think you would say that about Joe Barrow or uh Patrick Mahomes or whatever and that’s absolutely fine because there

Are so few of those kind of alien quarterbacks in the league you just have to maximize what he has because you know like I said he’s probably better than 80% of the people in the league anyway so that’s the the conundrum we find ourselves I have two important question that’s too high for

Me and one one more thing I am going to say this and Omar you can throw out arm Queen whenever you want get get ready Omar on Q This is where be Tua needs perhaps more things to be executed perfectly because he just doesn’t have the arm strength to overcome whatever

Tiny error there is there it it is our quarterback we we know who he is and he’s not an athlete like like Josh Josh Allen or Patrick Patrick Mahomes or Lamar Jackson and and that’s where I’m a little bit uncomfortable whereas okay those are the quarterbacks that he lost to in this

Critical stretch of the Season those are also arguably three of the top five quarterbacks in the NFL they are different animals uh and and I I have a hard time thinking if they were easy to find other people would have would have found them by now yeah um and certainly

It wouldn’t have taking the Dolphins 20 years to find them even though we’ve missed on a number of opportunities but let me let me pick parlay this into an important conversation and I just want everybody to give me their decision I want you to pick Kurt Cousins or Tu

Aonga Vala to lead your franchise for the next three years Al well with Mike McD’s head coach huh the head coach why does it have to be three years okay yeah a threeyear commitment stop stop stop being trying to be a single man you’re making a

Commitment here well if you know if you know me and you follow me on Twitter I am president of the Kirk Cousins fan club because I’ve thought of him as a top 10 quarterback for a very long time that’s why uh yes he he is no longer

That he is older he just took a a pretty bad injury I don’t think he can operate the the system that that two off operates with the pre- snap motion then the snap point then the mesh Point remember that two was processing three things before he throws the ball and

Then he has to read the defense oh Kurt Cousins is a phenomenal processor very intelligent you you wait your turn you wait your turn fard no no hold on I gotta interject because this this gonna affect his his answer obviously Al if you bring in Kirt cousin you’re gonna

Tweak your offense to fit his skill set the way the Dolphins have completely done everything to fit Tua I mean this is not a Kirk cousin same system or Tu in the system make your choice Al go ahead I love kir cousins Tua is younger and probably cheaper in the immediate

Future so Tu Simon if it’s a Mike McDaniel offense I’m taking Tua and I say that as somebody who likes and respects Kurt Cousins as both a player and a human being as cheesy as that sounds I’m I’m actually going to stick with Tua if it’s a three-year window um

I I know Kirk Cousins is going to Kirt cousins is the the I have the most respect of anybody in the NFL for Kirk Cousins in terms of how he handles business first quarterback in NFL history to get a fully guaranteed contract others have followed suit he’s going to maximize his

Opportunity in free agency this offseason I’m curious and I think his money is going to set the bar for what Tua can get paupard who you picking cousins or Tua threeyear window well I don’t like the three-year window because to me you would go you would go outside

Voes sir that’s a bad question how’s that no it’s not a bad question it’s Hing your hand in a difficult position I don’t I don’t I don’t care about anything in the NFL past three years Mike McDaniel is probably gonna be fired in three years Chris K is gonna be

Fired in three years um Steve Ross is probably gonna have that’s precisely my point that’s precisely my point if you were to tell me for 2024 only you give me no I want threeyear window we’re gonna this is We’re All in This Together threeyear window everybody poop or get

Off the pot and you need to poop or get off the pot with the answer cousin or you taking Tua don’t use my nickname in vain uh I don’t like this three-year window at all because if it goes sou the next two years Mike McDaniel chances are is not going to be

There in 20 what would it be 2026 so I don’t like I don’t like the premise of the question I’m gonna say that for 2024 my answer would be Kirk Cousins uh and pretty clearly for three years if I’m GNA play along and and we bringing economics into the the into the

Equation and the fact that KK in his 35 and coming off in Achilles and he’s chances are he’s going to be more costly where I have two years of control with Tua under all those factors ever so slightly I lean to a but again it’s because you put painted me in

Into a corner um the good now a very important question and I have been a proponent for draft a quarterback till you get a quarterback that is an elite quarterback and I don’t care what the resources are and I know you’re light on resources but you also suck in the draft

Let’s be honest about it um do you draft a quarterback this year and develop begin the process of developing him uh I probably would but then I’m of the the opinion that you should draft a qu back every year just because high five Simon yeah um you know I think you

Probably developed Skyler Thompson as far as Skyler can develop and that’s not a knock on Sky I think he’s well respected and I think he did a great job when he came in into terms of the circumstance and being a rookie from a a scheme that was completely alien to what

Mike McDaniel was running he almost beat the bills on the road in the playoffs or was at least part of that um part of that team Prett yeah absolutely so one yeah exactly I mean those guys are out there uh and I think you should be

Drafting a guy every year and trying to develop them and see what happens because the very worst thing that can happen is they end up starting a few games and you can get back a better draft pick than than what you used to to

To get to get with so I would draft a quarterback on day three of the draft pretty much every year if I could Al absolutely and and I’d be remiss if I didn’t mention this is you’re saying this is the year 2024 limited resources take a quarterback absolutely because uh

I don’t think going forward the expensive backup quarterback is something that you can afford to do year in and year out when you need that money for other things and I’d be remissed to say if I didn’t say this our partner on the podcast Chris man loved Brock py so

When people say that nobody knew about Brock py our partner actually did and advocated for drafting him in the seventh round that year so look at look at look at what we missed out on PO part you drafted a quarterback in 20124 for the record I was advocating for Tom

Brady in 2000 to be picked that I need to see I need to see legitimate evidence of that oh let me let me dig forward I’ll get back you it take a while um Chris G his Chris gre’s father was in New England uh Bobby yeah he’s he’s actually he’s

Actually if you go to the origins of the roots of who is advocating for Tom Brady and draftman books have been written about this it was Chris K’s father so hey yeah what’s OD about the Tom Brady thing is if you go back and you look at

His career at Michigan he was underd drafted yeah he should have been like a third or fourth round pick he wasn’t even than Drew Henson Drew Henson yeah absolutely yeah weird weird but look who’s the go W more yeah um no I agree especially since but again they they are

Limited draft picks as Simon mentioned it’s a one a two a five two sixes and the Seven look what they got out of the six and the sevens the last couple years U Elijah Higgins with with the Cardinals Ryan Hayes who cares they they they do well you’re proving my point

Exactly who cares so so I have no issue with taking a shot on a quarterback out of the blue you get something there’s nothing wrong with that and last year both you and I were were kind of kind of high on heren hooker henden hooker from Tennessee uh be interesting to see how

That pans out with him in Detroit he he was an intriguing Prospect but yeah I know I have zero issue with taking a quarterback every year in the now Simon um to wrap this up I want to get your thoughts about the overview of this draft class I I have not began my

Process um I really don’t care until now and and I really won’t pay attention until after free agency when we get to what the needs are for this team but what what what do you think about this class I think it’s strong overall I think there are some positions that are

Absolutely outstanding offensive line tackle left tackle right tackle is outstanding you could look and see that there would be six or seven tackles right and left that might end up going in the first round when you look at at it um when you look at Joe Al and

Fashanu at Penn State and uh tesy fuaga Ohio at Oregon State and um uh Troy fatano at Washington uh Mims of Georgia I think Patrick Paul Jordan Morgan of Arizona I think there’s a number of guys and that that’s just tackles only Tyler G at Oklahoma um could all go in the

First round I think wide receivers extremely strong especially at the top extremely hold on extremely oh extremely strong I think wide receivers an I think it’s an absolutely outstanding class and I think at the at the very top you obviously have to me the best wide

Receiver that I’ve seen come out in a long long time this is Larry joh yeah and it’s Larry Fitzgerald with speed is how I you know how I’ve been writing him up in the draft book that’s that’s as good as Marvin Harrison is he’s as good as I’ve seen since Calvin Johnson I

Think but I think if you go beyond that I mean Roma dun of Washington might be my favorite overall player in the draft he just has everything that you look for in a receiver he blocks separation ability size athletic ability he’s physical after the catch he runs great

Routes he’s just a really good player neighbors LSU and Brian Thomas his teammate LSU are great got the kid at Florida State Keon Coleman a guy I really like he reminds me of DK Metar Xavier Legette of or Legette of of South Carolina and then you go down to kind of

Guys like Troy Franklin Oregon devontes Walker who’s playing at the the Senior Bowl I mean probably wouldn’t even fit in my top 10 but a guy who dominated at the Senior Bowl yesterday um is Roman Wilson of Michigan I mean if I’m just looking at this now he’s not in my top

10 but was absolutely dominant yesterday at the senior ball so you know there are guys lab makoni if you’re looking for guys out the slot but I think overall it’s a it’s a really good I think you know Edge there’s some good Edge Defenders I think he’s a really deep

Cornerback group what what about defensive tackle it’s not I I I love the two guys at Texas um Murphy and sweat I think they’re excellent beyond that I kind of I worry a little bit about how good it is and I think that’s you know we were talking about this last night

When we recorded three yards per carry because we did defensive line and you know for me I think free agency is that area you look at somebody like Derek nandy of the Chiefs for example or somebody that if you do get rid of Christian Wilkins that’s a guy that you

You know you might Target I know that um I know that Alf likes uh the Jones guy Deon Jones um at Buffalo but to me I think defensive tackle is kind of light I think you always do Jord Jordan Phillips again I’m just saying yeah it’s always it’s always possible

It’s always there it’ll be it’ll be a fun locker room that first day in Camp though yeah I mean we we hey I’m ending my beef with Kevin Bernett okay so if if I could end my beefs me and Jordan Phillips we could we could do a Kumbaya thing

Ex let me ask you this question um regarding the draft yeah um this guy over here he’s obsessed with ran Smith um abs absolutely needs a linebacker like that is there that player in that in this draft there isn’t it’s a really weak linebacker group I mean how did you

Just make hearts I don’t know that just popped up oh my gosh he just made hearts I just learned something like wait a minute where are my hearts I don’t know I just look I mean to me the best the best linebacker in the class is edrian

Cooper at Texas A&M and I think it was intriguing yesterday to see um Daniel Jeremiah released his first top 50 of the year and he had he had Cooper in the 20s I think was at 20 either 24 or 27 but he’s you know he’s 62 he’s

226 you know so this is not a ran Smith kind of makeup he is you know very athletic very aware that athleticism pound sorry say that again 226 pound 20 oh 20 he’s two I think he went let me just look he so he was 62

227 uh at the Senior Bowl at the a little light in the tail little light in the tail he’s very long 34 inch arms the the guy that I think is really intriguing uh and and certainly fits more of that is is pton Wilson who’s the

Kid from NC State who won the buckus award he’s 64 he’s 238 uh he is extremely athletic he is you know a really really good player but he’s had 11 surgeries since uh High School his ACL shoulders all sorts of things you know there are there are

Plenty of uh so he’ll be in the discount bin is what you injury warnings yeah absolutely but in terms of if you’re looking for he plays with a he play he does play sorry to interrupt you Simon he does play with a with a high AVG

Style motor yeah he is a player he’s a really good player but if you’re looking for ran Smith unfortunately I don’t think he’s in this class they don’t grow on trees and by the way grow on trees Roan Smith 61235 he’s not huge either he’s just all over

The place would you have made the trade for Smith over the trade chub especially CH play you didn’t even have to finish the sentence in a heartbeat regardless of how well chub was playing last year and he did yeah and he did but yeah um and and safety position because I I’m a

Big fan of that that um kid um yeah cam kinchin yeah kinchin is a nice player I think at the first round uh I think probably a team you look at someone like the Green Bay Packers who are desperate for kind of that that middle of the

Field safety help I mean there’s a you know you look at somebody like Cooper deene of of Iowa and you wonder whether or not under fangio’s you know and if say Brandon stady comes in dein is probably a really good fit to play multiple positions as sort of a in a way

A kind of a CJ Gardner Johnson sort of Swiss army knife kind of kind of player but in terms of pure safeties I think at the top of the class you’re looking at you’re looking at kinchin you’re looking at the kid uh bulock from USC who’s a

Nice player um the the guy from uh Minnesota uh who’s a really nice player Tyler nubin who I think that you know these are probably guys that you look at in the 25 to 45 region um Bullock’s kind of a real center fielder athletic ranging makes plays on the ball on the

Back end I personally think that that’s what they need for some put put with Holland I don’t think holl center fielder um I they want him in the action we’ve been with two coaching staffs who wanted him in the action and I I think you need that center fielder to to

Complement him I think the issue with kinchin is that he miss for me he misses a lot of tackles on tape and that’s you know obviously something that shows up um but he’s a SE ball fine ball ball gets attracted to him kind of player so

Um yes Al can I interject real quick I I I like kinchin overall but to me I completely unhooked as a looking at him as a first- round pick and it’s may be completely unfair because it’s one play but look at that game-winning touchdown that he gave up against Georgia Tech and

To me the lack of awareness of game situation Awareness on that play is frightening yeah oh that shows up that shows up a lot and as a fan of the well Observer of the Hurricanes uh I can tell I can tell you that you watch cam kitchens and

Sometimes what he sees is not what is actually happening yeah nuben is the guy to me who I think has got real upside he’s got Instinct and range for for days I think he’s a really interesting player but again you know as we’ve talked about

Adding for an item here you’ve got a one a two a five two sixes and a seven you just can’t answer all these all these bells in terms of positions and look I liked what deshan Elliot did this this year as well I you know I don’t think

Elliot you know a bad player at all and I think you know Brandon Jo can you resign do you resign Brandon Jones I actually like the the pairing of Holland and and Elliot and and I although I don’t think fio scheme suits Holland’s ability I actually think it suited

Elliot’s ability a guy I liked in Detroit and a guy I thought played pretty well for Miami this year in terms of what you’re asking him to do box safety run the alley come in hit people make tackles be an extra linebacker you know that all that kind of rotating into

Light Bo light boxes to heavy boxes I think he did that well but whether or not you know if there’s a a distinct change in system whether or not Elliot fits kind of remains to be seen yeah Des Shan Elliot for for bank for your buck

What they paid for him coming off the hash was absolutely fabulous but that’s another guy they’re going to have to sit down in a room and see what he wants yeah sure um I think there’s certain players in this league that are one year toe minimum to $2 million players I

Think deshun Ellen is in that realm um and I I don’t View him as a difficult player to resign and if he escapes he escapes and there will be a lot of players that escape this off season cuz uh they don’t have that much money or

Wiggle room to get these deals done but it’ll be interesting to see how Steve Ross manages to give Daddy the credit card get give give baby boy the credit card and allows him to extend this 2024 um Dolphins team um well gentlemen it was a pre it was a pleasure having

You on the yeah Al’s going to try to make hearts again this is so weird jealous Alan can make hearts and I cannot make hearts like what is going on here no idea anyway but um Simon tell people about your draft guide uh yeah

It’s uh I mean it’ll come out when I it comes out when it comes out it’ll come out when it’s finished uh I think I counted the other day I think we’re up to 309 players trying and go through as many players as possible in terms of

Draft eligible guys I try and watch a minimum over the year of three games per player dig into their background some aren’t possible because they play for schools smaller than I can get tape for do a lot of background stuff in terms of research injuries things that just might make you

See that a guy ticks whether it comes to work ethic or suspensions or arrests or yeah players go to the their 21st birthday party all those sorts of things all of those sorts day who was that player was that Draft Day the movie o Callahan oah draft day yeah there was

Something there was some Josh Rosen stuff in there too that was much like Bo Callahan but I can’t remember it right now um so how do they get the draft guide Simon uh I will it’ll be on social media we’ll put it on our three yards

Per carry um and yeah it’ll be I mean it’s cheap as chips uh which is a saying over here which means it’s not very expensive so I don’t think we’ve set a price on it yet but it’s usually around between five or $10 or whatever and it’s

Like I said I mean you’ve had one before um oh it’s like 100,000 words 300 players yeah it’s a lot of work and definitely well worth it um especially when you want the the I I still haven’t found a Nolan nocki replacement yet because I need somebody that gives me

The dirt that’s that that’s what I want um but I do enjoy your draft guy I’ll tell the people about the Discord for for three yards per carry again yeah if you want to become a member of our Discord all you have to do is go to

Discord.gg only fins and you can become a member there for $3 a month definitely well we appreciate you joining us on all dolphins.com and as you know you guys know every everybody’s got you behind a pay wall but us it’s for free which we’re not our fingers are not

Immediately on it um definitely you got my columns and Perard’s stories and look at look at that I I am so jealous how how do I have to like raise it higher I have no idea I like one of only one of us gets the heart making ability all

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