LATE GOALS DENY DONS AS WINLESS RUN CONTINUES

2 inexplicably poor goals conceded at the death saw Aberdeen defeated again. Can we pick ourselves off the canvas ahead of the Scottish Cup QF against Kilmarnock?

Good evening and welcome back to another live episode of red tinted glasses here on the red tinted Glasses YouTube channel and sorry for being 24 hours later than normal coming to you live on a Tuesday evening rather than our usual Monday 7 PM slot I’ll be brutally honest

I really wasn’t in the mood to podcast yesterday um Saturday’s late late defeat really still left a sickly feel in the in the stomach and trying to get myself up for podcasting on the back of yet another defeat was a tough act more so when once again I continue to carry the

Podcast in the absence of Callum for those tuning in live will notice once again Callum is not here but making his long awaited red tinted glasses debut mainly because he ped me every week to come on welcome to the show Jay Moyer Jay how’s it going I’m good thank you

Glenn thank thanks very much for having us yeah know I’m really excited to chat all things Aberdine with you even if I wish they were of a more positive variety H in this case we are on this episode going to look back over the devastating 2-1 defeat in Paisley what

That means for the rest of our League season Dave Cormac broke his cover at the weekend as well we’ll discuss the Chairman’s tweet on our reaction to that and look ahead to what I called on STV news last night a season defining Scottish cup quarterfinal this weekend at Padre Saturday lunchtime kickoff but

Jay we’ll start with events in Paisley I know unfortunately or fortunately um I know you felt um you didn’t quite make it all the way um after having a tire blowout quite close to Paisley um but the Dons did make four changes um to the starting lineup from the midweek defeat

To St Johnston Nikki delin Duke uh kilan Phillips and Junior hilet coming in from the start replacing Jack Mill Johnny Hayes Leon Clarkson and Jamie McGrath um those that missed out what was your thoughts um driving towards the game before obviously your trouble happened and and seeing that

Lineup were you excited to see kind of some of the changes that had been made I think obviously you’re interested to see what hoil it brings um maybe a bit of experience a bit of pace up front although he is getting older now um and also the legs of Phillips maybe just

Trying to bring a bit of height into the team you know you look at the legs of Clarkson who’s not the biggest player and I think that’s what we’re really lacking at the minute you know you look at bar and and shenny they’re all quite small players so I think maybe Phillips

Was a bit of height but you could argue you know dropping Jack M was a bit um questionable because he’s he’s a big guy and and he can qu a good ball in the Box um but again I think Warnick is trying to sus out his best side and I think

Right now it’s a a really risky time to be doing that but that’s what we are at the minute we just seem to be experimenting every game is a bit of a a tumula and you don’t know what you’re going to get from one game the next yeah we found Jimmy C’s

Tumble and well and truly dusted it off and I don’t know if he’s tuning into the the episode live or not I’m sure he’ll be catching up but GRE MC William commented on the last episode about what you’ve just picked up on there J and kind of experimenting with formations

And and players and you know we picked up on the the last show that you know we were quite quite small in comparison to um St Johnston but as you say kind of Mill for Phillips is like for like in the in the height Department what I did

Like about the the starting lineup and what we then saw from the the kind of start to the game was the kind of width and directness that both Junior hilet and and uh Duke gave us because that’s definitely something we’ve been lacking um but yeah it’s kind of the risk and

Issue we’ve had so far is it’s not the time of season where we can be experimenting but I just wonder you know based on kind of how the first hour certainly went if Neil War might be tempted to stick with that starting 11 again going into the weekends game well

You know he said in his postmatch that he was really pleased um with a lot of the the performance and he felt quite hard done by so I think as you say I wouldn’t be surprised if he kept that team because you saw the legs of Duke

Setting up well more or less setting up the first goal um hilet obviously gives you that bit of pace that bit of you know creativity the final third which I should say we’ve been lacking um all season you know it’s been very narrow and um side to side whereas now that

We’ve got players that you know can actually run at the defense in the final third and I wouldn’t be surprised to see Warick stick with that yeah and I think you know we saw kind of Junior hilot especially in the first half we’ve seen um in his fleeting appearances so far

The delivery and quality he possesses from that um so that was good to see on a a more regular basis than kind of rather when we were were chasing the game and as you say yeah kind of going back to the old Duke that we’ve kind of

Become used to last season with that directness in the first half especially gave Scott tanzer the submitting left back all sorts of problems and as you said kind of I’m sure what will be wanting to claim the assist for for the opener even though he can’t really but

On the opener Connor Baron a player discussed you know feels like all the time on podcasts and certainly I’m sure in pubs pre-match and and postmatch as well about where his future lies but for me I’m still going to maintain we can’t question his commitment to the Cause

Right now and what a goal what a way to get off the mark for the season oh potentially one of the goals of the Season maybe not the goal but wonderful strike probably up there with msk’s disallowed one at tank Castle um maybe that was on another level I don’t know

But I you say certainly a good strike and as you say you can’t question his commitment you know I know he’s not signed a new deal but you know and I’m not quite sure but maybe knowing him on a bit of a personal level um he’s a really nice lad and I know

That he cares about the club um and I think obviously you know but the way we’ve been playing this season everybody’s going to be coming under a bit of stick but certainly for me H corner is a a great player and I’m just can only hope that he stays um because

For me he is he is a quality and he’s only 21 you know 2132 so people need to remember that he’s got years ahead of him yeah no exactly and I think as well that you know I mentioned a lot of times about the fact that he Scotland under 21

Captain um as well and look in the I was quite fortunate that I finally got my stream to to work just as the the ball hit the hit the back of the net so I’m glad I got to to catch that pretty much as it happened even I think it was maybe

The the first replay um but you know it was a decent start from what we’ve been used to I think you know you know taking the lead is not something we’ve been accustomed to under Neil Warick especially um Bonnie RI Rose game aside and it gave us something to to

Hold on to and again I know that’s going to be something that causes debate again amongst the support because it kind of felt a little bit mckinness a little bit Robson January last season where we just sat on one-nil leads we had opportunities to double our advantage

Going into the second half boam meowski could have probably should have done better with a header I’m pretty sure it was Junior hot that that swung in the cross um I think boy I’m just up a bit too early and Miss times the header and

But on the other hand I know we rode our luck and k r pulling off a really good save to deny Min the ball kind of ricocheting off the post and we scrambled the danger and again they skim the top of the crossbar as well so again

I know if any sub Min fans are cheting in you know I do agree with Neil Warick where I felt we were comfortable but I’m not under No Illusion that they did cause us the odd problem but I felt by and large up until I know we’re going to

Come on to it injury Time s Merin kind of didn’t look like scoring aside from those two opportunities that that I mentioned yeah I mean it was difficult because obviously listened on the radio and open all mic they get little Snippets here and there yeah but it

Certainly did sound like we were in control of the game um I don’t know if we were creating chance after chance and I think Willie Miller described it as quite a a 5050 game it was end to end um but I suppose you go on about sitting behind

The ball I suppose at this point of the season the players will be so desperate for a win but they’ll also be really not scared but quite nervous and cautious and they’ll just want to do anything they can to hold on to a win so maybe instead of thinking about going forward

They’ll be like right we’re winning let’s just get behind the ball even though you want to see us you know go forward and go forward and go forward yeah and it’s funny you say that because it was just a way to kind of make that

Point as well I wonder how much in terms of a mentality from players and management was it to kind of protect that what should have been a morale boosting win a positive result even if it had ended up being a draw and despite the efforts in the 90 minutes prior to

Kind of build on looking towards this weekend however we sit here on on Tuesday night speaking about yet another defeat and there’s obviously some kind of negative connotations that we’re going to have to to cover as well and I guess that’s you know what you mentioned there about

Mindset is probably something we don’t kind of really think of as fans we just see what’s happened see the reaction and yeah [ __ ] sake you know come come the winner or you know firstmid and at full time it’s War out KAC out whoever the [ __ ] else out you know it’s that immediate reaction

From us as fans at the disappointment at losing but in the buildup as you say you know players their mindsets probably like we’re a bit fragile we’ve not won in a while let’s try and protect what we’ve got and get the fans back on side exactly I mean regardless of performance

By full time you’re thinking the same thing you know yet another defeat um and in the way it’s happened you dread to think how the players must be feeling now if they weren’t already down before they’ll definitely be down now um yeah because as I said on Twitter that’s you

Know a shades of the Rangers game um when arfield scored that you know the last 97th minute or something yeah so you just see p as well for this season as well it’s a it’s a common Trend AB these days and it’s obviously not a good

One to have um so yeah you just go knows how they’re feeling like must be really out bot now I I will agree with you on that one as well there’s a comment from skur that came in uh about taking Junior Hil off and changing formation um he

Said those sort of tactics were the ones that you know ultimately saw the end of Barry Robson and look for me I I came out on the on the RTG Twitter account and said Saturday for me was not on Neil Warick it is purely on the players but fans will rightly look

Towards the manager’s tactics and question his decision on the hour mark to take off um Duke and Junior hilet players that were giving us out ball causing degrees of creativity is without maybe being clinical and trying to get that what would have been pivotal second

Goal can you see J why fans L to Neil waru for that bit of blame because ultimately he did make tweaks that played a part yeah losing the game I know but you know of course Warick is the manager you can see why folk are angry

But you know I guess he’s in that mindset of how he is as a manager he’s not thinking attack attack attack he’s thinking let’s hold on to what we’ve got here regardless of how negative that may seem I think everybody knows before he came in he wasn’t going to play this

Free flowing football you know he’s a defensive minded manager and that’s obviously what he’s thinking right we’re winning let’s just you know shut up shop um but definitely you know myself you know I would have say I already go for goal after goal but obviously that Neil

Warick is in the mindset of let’s just get three points yeah and I I suppose you know you’re already kind of coming making your way back up the road um as the game nears towards its its natural conclusion you’re probably thinking I’ve come pretty much all the way to Glasgow

And I’ve missed you know Neil War’s first League Victory um o of the season and you know Nikki delin and the SFA have other ideas obviously as you said weren’t at the game but I’m sure you’ve had plenty of chance to see the incident back via either Sports scene or the

Videos doing the rounds on Twitter initial real time watching um what was your thoughts on the penalty incident I think it’s one of those that in in modern day you know any sort of contact in the box is is you know apparently more or less as silly as it

Is um I think the the suban boys been quite clever um and got in front of a Devin um and just sort of waited for the contact and put himself on the deck and you know I I guess from a a referee and I’m only guessing from a refereeing

Point of view the subaran boys got to the ball first Devin’s made contact and he’s and he’s the boys’s gone down so it’s a it’s apparently and as soft as it may be um but again is it is it necessary for Devin to be so frantic and

I guess it goes back to that nerves thing of just being so on edge and desperate to to just do his job that you maybe over does it and thinks oh no I’ve you know I’ve made contact here um I want to pick up on two things you you’ve

Said there um because I’ll agree with you um on the the point about um the S midam player being clever um I I do agree on that I think he was clever and getting his body across Nicki devilin David McCannon here in the comments saying it was never a

Penalty I don’t know I disagree to be honest I think it is a penalty I think had that been up the other end we’d both be sitting here raging if it wasn’t given um to Aline perspective but the point I wanted to pick up on was you kind of meant mentioning does Nikki

Devil need to be so frantic I thought the complete opposite Jay it really [ __ ] frustrates me the brain farts that Nicki develin seems to go through yeah now you know Nicki Devin was dropped for the the midweek game against and Johnston whether or not this kind of had an impact on his overall

Performance um at at the weekend because for me him being dropped in midweek came as a real surprise given he was was one of the players put in front of the media um for the pre-match press conference so you know I was clearly reading a lot

More than I should have into the fact that he was doing doing that and you know he kind of came across as saying he wanted to identify as being one of the leaders but Nikki delin was making simple mistake after simple mistake in that that second half kind of one

Incident that that sticks out was he was way to try and kind of clear the ball in our own half kind of looked took his eye off the ball and accidentally took an extra heavy touch and it went out for a submarin throw and I couldn’t help but

Think at the time I was like Nicki Devin’s got a mistake in here that’s going to cost us at this rate and I don’t think he was frantic enough Jay he was lazy getting out to that ball he was jogging Out to the Ball olisa was quick

He was alert he wanted that ball more than Nicki develin Nicki delin only wanted that ball when he [ __ ] realized how quick oisan was and that he was probably not getting there first yeah but to go back to your other point olna then became clever got his body in

Front of Nikki develin before Nikki could Shield the ball and we end up conceding the the penalty and you know Paul Donaldson saying it wasn’t a clear and obvious error for for the referee to give a free kick outside the box VAR re refereeing matches once again on that though I

Think the reason why it’s been rered to kind of quote what Paul said there was because he gave the free kick outside the box and I think because the initial contact was inside the box that was why it was was looked at my only kind of interest in the whole V

Situation around the penalty would have been what happens if Nick Walsh gave that as a free kick to aine then what would have happened would there been the V interest in the decision reversed or not um would the benefit of the doubt as such have been

Given to the defending team um given it was kind of a 5050 as some people say but you then look at what happens at T Castle on Sunday with uh Yang getting caught up with Alex Cochran tact um compared to Nikki delin and olna but kind of a similar incident and

Again a penalty was was awarded in in that situation but for me had Nikki just burst a gut to get the ball and just hoofed it towards Glasgow Airport or in any [ __ ] direction we probably wouldn’t be sitting here speaking about a defeat or we probably wouldn’t be

Speaking about him once again switching off and costing us a goal like he did against hibs well you know and dev’s been one that you know since his start the season fans have been really fond of H but certainly as you say the last couple of months maybe maybe month maybe couples a

Bit H harsh but month or so that he’s been one that’s maybe struggling with this pressure of of you know playing for Aber and being under the cost really but then again you’d think he’d be used to it at Livingston because you imagine that that’s how they played every week

Was you know sitting in and being used to defending um but again as you see on the penalty I mean we’re speaking about this every week throughout Scottish Football um you know contact is it a is it harsh is it not I just think it’s

It’s it’s so difficult to know what is a penalty and what’s not a penalty now um and you know the referee had a a decision to make and and as I think his name was Paul says you know V basically referees the game now um and I guess

It’s just how they interpret things and yeah it’s so difficult to know what the the rules are because nothing’s really um in black and white now it’s um it’s all there to who’s how you how refes are perceiving things yeah and I think you know the musical box M makes a good

Comment here on screen saying had Nikki de delin not even challenged at all in that situation there wouldn’t have been a problem because again it’s an instance where we’re making a silly F when the player and ball are going away from goal olis would have needed to control that he’s

Not going to do it on a penny and be able to remain in the Box he was going away from goal you know let him run away from goal get the defense set although [ __ ] hell we’ve seen how that happened 90 seconds later yeah um so maybe that’s why he made the challenge

But another thing I I saw as well is I think it was that Nikki Devin’s played over 40 games he’s certainly up there with playing the most games for Aber this season and already at this stage of the season has played more games this season than he did last season um for

Livingston I guess Jay once again highlights our lack of depth lack of competition in the right back area you know we signed or dadia only saw him against Fraser Jaden Richardson’s been punted on loan to Stockport didn’t work out for there he’s now at Colchester we tried Shaden Morris

[ __ ] hell try and forget about that Ryan Duncan I I have a funny feeling was also exploited in the right wing back role as well yeah we have no significant competition in that area we had the whole of January to try and provide some

Backup and we failed to do so so in that sort of area question marks are rightly going to now be asked on the the recruitment side yeah I guess some people will probably ask why did dad you not even get a chance to prove what he was worth yeah but you know tiredness

Mental fatigue nerves they’re all going to play a part for a player not used to be playing this sort of minutes um like he was last season at Livingston yeah yeah I mean there there’s lots of questions to be asked this season If we’re honest the recruitment you know for every sski

There has been a daddy or a Williams um you know players that when you sign them on paper you think oh this is this is good like and then all of a sudden you just never see them and you think you know what’s going on with that

Um but again it’s one of those things that we sign these players and okay that apparently I was at the Fraser game but apparently a few players were really bad but you know I don’t think we should be judging players based off a game with Fraser BR because in my opinion you know

Are they really going to be caring about that game or they going to be giving it the all for them it’s probably just getting out on the pitch you know and um you know I’m sure I know it’s a different position but I’m sure a lot of people when Sam cosgro first signed

Would have said oh you know who’s this boy he’s rubbish um and eventually he you know goes on to might be a bit rubbish now I don’t know but for us once he came into a game excuse me he was he was good so I think we just need we you know let

Players get a chance I mean especially now You’ would take a a right back in Oria that’s played for I think it was Israel was it International um and I Israeli kind to play for Aber and you know surely he’s near that bad you know I guess we’ll we will never never know

We’ll never know another another um Hernandez type signing I guess it was you know a lot of talk about whether Robson really wanted him here or not and I don’t know we’ll never know the real ins and outs unless he wants to come on the podcast and tell

Us about what it was like um living in Aberdine and not playing for the club yeah um but look without kind of inserting too many footballing cliches and sounding like managers if you’re not going to win a game um and you know you get to the situation as we found

Ourselves in 1-1 with 90 seconds to play don’t [ __ ] lose the game but canine hold my beer and Paul I’m so so glad you’ve said this um Paul Donaldson saying it’s a total mystery to me why we spent most of the 90 minutes trying to hold on to a one-nil Le

They equalize and then we try and push forward instead of trying to protect the 1-1 and at least get a draw as I said about 10 minutes ago you know get that draw even if we should have been winning that game at the weekend take the point

It would have kept faint hopes of a top six finish alive for me they’re all but dead and buried now um on the back of that defe and hibs picking up a win at the weekend I honestly the player [ __ ] honestly I can’t even emphasize how

Angry this this kind of makes me feel and H how frustrated I am by the lack of basic game awareness from the team yeah you know we just pump the ball up like we do from most of our kickoffs where it’s one pass back kind of like a rugby

Just hoop towards the the touch line and hope for the best and Nikki delin I don’t know you know if he was trying to make amends again kind of as Paul says pushing towards trying to get that that winner out of nowhere takes a quick throw into buam meowski who if you watch

The the the second goal back and if you want to really torture yourself like that actually doesn’t look like he wants the ball I’m pretty sure he points to whoever the player was in front saying you know pass to him instead yeah yeah buan doesn’t get the ball under control

Two passes later s mirin are four on three we’re defensively all over the [ __ ] shot and that’s before we even talk about the ball getting into the box Richard Jensen [ __ ] me stop the cross coming into the box or at least [ __ ] try to stop getting the ball into the

Box yeah the ball then comes into the box and Nicki delin who of course pretty much started this minute Counterattack fails to pick up the man at the back post who’s peeled off of him MH Angus McDonald oh my God he decid think I’ve seen somebody on Twitter saying

He’s decided he’s going for a Saturday strolling i’ honestly you know Angus I mean he’s for me he’s a he’s a good Defender yeah he he’s a I was he should be a reliable Defender but he’s not going to want to see that ball back we

Don’t even put a [ __ ] man on the post for a corner why the [ __ ] are you going into the [ __ ] post for a header back across the goal and the other thing is had he stayed with osna or yeah kind of doing the job he should have been all’s offside we’re not even

Speaking about losing the game again um for me he’s maybe just wanting to play the hero and and you know oh I cleared off the line I don’t know but surely you’d STI your man because you You’ you’d bet on Angus beating allna to a ball um in

The air um or however you know I know it eventually landed at his feet but you know you’d imagine Angus would be able to hold him off and and defend and so why he thinks it’s a good idea yeah as the comment say there he’s Rusty he’s

Not play but you know a ball into the box is basic of Defending surely um it’s not the most quality ball either well sorry it was a knockdown um but surely you know although he’s not played surely you can clear that or at least attempt

To block it or just stay with your mind you know what I mean but I I you know look on that comment about you know Angus being Rusty expected more from him I think you know I do expect more from him even though he is Rusty lack of lack

Of minutes it’s that you know basic game awareness David mlen seeing a total absence of tactical awareness it’s just basic game management just went totally out the window in that situation you know for me Stephen gartman could he maybe do better in that situ ation he

Kind of just watches the ball go past him probably harsh because he probably doesn’t want to stick a leg out and you know divert it into the roof of the net yeah I saw a few question marks I think the slowmo kind of on Sports scene prompted that from me around could Kell

Rose come off his line because does that Twitter yeah but I I you know I would agree with you there Jay but again that’s probably from the slow-mo real time but again before the cross you know he’s standing within his sixy box and as soon as the

Ball looks to whip ining hell he’s like Angus McDonald and can’t get to the line quick enough again if Kell Rose stands where he was before the ball comes in he’s in a position he’s allowed to use his hands in the Box he hates catching

The ball but you know he could be there punch it get up get in the way that was my point that was my point yeah yeah Retreat allows it to be easy for Sub sub got an easy ball into the box easy knockdown and well you know it’s a good

Finish but it’s an easy opportunity to tap the ball into the net he puts it high into the the roof of the net in the end but it’s another [ __ ] easy goal we’ve conceded under Neil war and in a game where I actually thought we weren’t going to concede two goals under Neil

Warick we somehow [ __ ] contrived to do so yeah and you can pinpoint individual errors to to that goal but from pretty much our entire backline it’s a [ __ ] mess yeah that’s putting it lightly as well um I guess it’s one of those things that the team probably

Think they’re doing good because if they win the ball from The Equalizer they go up and score everyone’s going oh brilliant you know last minute winner and then it’s a case oh know they’ve lost and have G up and scored because they’ve not done their jobs defensively

Um again I think it just sums up the team just now I just don’t think they’ve got belief or confidence in in anything they do I think everything that could go wrong is going wrong they don’t know whether to attack or defend you know as

I just said you know if we win that ball from The Equalizer and go up and score everyone’s going all brilliant but they’ve tried it they’ve lost it and enough scored and it just like you know [ __ ] sake but they kind of they kind of win just a really both you know

Literally hard hard in the pun no matter what they tried to do um and it’s just it’s just awful I mean I’ve I’ve never been so I’ve made the point a couple of times people think I’m I’m like crazy but like even on step glass and D say

Goodwin I know the darel thing but I always felt as though we had players that apart for the the the latter end of Goodwins rain I always felt that we the likes of Duke and Clarks and meowski but even now meowski doesn’t seem to be getting that much

Service he stopped scoring for a little while and now I just look at the team and I and I just don’t see us beating anyone you know even if we were to be playing fing with all due respect like park thisle or something at the weekend

I’d be thinking oh [ __ ] sake do you know what I mean no totally and I I think that’s you know I kind of I don’t really want to kind of speak about the kind of relegation playoff but you know West Coast on says when everything keeps

Going wrong you end up relegated I I think I mentioned that you know in the last episode after the Johnson game when we you know kept missing chance after chance at one nil thinking you know [ __ ] sake it’s not going to be our night and

Is it going to be one of those things where yeah we’re you know speaking potentially in a few weeks month time about being in 11th you know standing free since 1903 saying never felt so scared of getting relegated and look I I really I’m not going to say it because

Someone’s gonna sound you know clip it up and it’s going to come back to bite me um so I’ll quote sker instead um we’re not going to get relegated I do think that you know the fixtures that both ourselves and Ross County have certainly getting up to the split

Especially you know we’ve got to play Ross County again should be enough [ __ ] surely to [ __ ] there is enough about this squad enough about this fan base to carry this [ __ ] squad over the line you know because right now you know as we’re gonna obviously come on to

Speak about um the kind of cup quarterfinal in the ticket sales but right now the players and this team need our support more than ever yeah as much as some of them don’t [ __ ] deserve it um we need to you know at the end of the day players come and go managers come

And go yada yada yada football cliche here and there yeah but this is our football club this is our team and we’ll be there no matter what division we’re in no matter how [ __ ] things get no matter how good things get so it’s up to us to drag this team over the [ __ ]

Line and stay safe um and you know avoid that 11th Place finish that you know some of us are feing I just you know I think think I I agree with um Willie Miller said it a couple of times on Sports sound thank [ __ ] for Livingston this season um because you know with

Them being so far a drift it does give us that even more breathing room from an even more deadly thought well exactly that I mean I’ve been saying to folk at work all week that um sorry well when I’ve seen them that you know I think the

Only thing that will keep our safe is the lakes of Livingston in in M County being so poor um I’ve just it just totally baffles me how you know without sounding arrogant a club the SI Aline can be in such a predicament because you know we used to

Argue used to moan that we’ve got we’ve got no money to spend and um you know it’s all freebies and Loans were taken in you know this is we’re now at a stage where we’re spending money on players you know okay it’s not the biggest freeze in the world but we’re spending

Money a lot more money than the majority of the teams in the league and there just seems to be like a a severe lack of cohesion and the players that we do sign for big money are the players we end up putting out on loan and it’s just like

What is going on with this recruitment like do you know what I mean it’s um there’s so many questions to be asked and and it really is it really is a mess it really is whether the club are taking short cuts by promoting from within and promoting people that to do a

Job that in my opinion they shouldn’t be doing um I understand you kind of keep spending money and getting the best of the best in in the staff room and all that but were’re in such a mess and some of the the players were signing you look at

You look at like a Morris um and and up to now you know um papy gate and all that like you know these are what is that like half a million supposed to be a so maybe just under a million pounds Al together for that too I mean honestly

I mean maybe Pap he’ll come back and be half decent but it’s just notic he scored for um both him and Vinnie both scored this weekend for their respective Lan clubs as well I tweeted about that and somebody said it looks likeing um papy is playing for some junior team and

It does be the photo looks like he’s playing at the back of Asda or something well I as the G and I think but thing is is that I think they’re still in preseason I think quite ironic their um their League season gets underway on uh April fools I think is their first

League game for for Pap in Norway um but L you know it’s certainly whether you think we’re going to be safe whether you think we’re in danger of finishing 11th it is certainly splitting opinions you know graem finl are here in the comments saying cany is getting out of this we’ve

Already lost a home to Saints the unthinkable results are happening every Club doing its best to relegate us slept walked into playoffs you know yeah you know again I think someone commented on the last episode about drawing the similarities to O and hibs in 2014 under

Terry butcher as well um I I still agree that um that match coming up at the end of March against Ross County at Padre is going to be absolutely huge I also think what would be important is the games coming up is it next well next midweek I

Think um after the kind of games in hand where we travel to dunde and Ross County are at home to hibs on the the same night because if we fail to you know if Ross County better the result that we’ve got that day then you know things that

Game at the end of the month becomes even bigger I think we need to kind of keep Ross County within about four or five points of us going into the split for me to begin to look to feel safe but i’ really ideally want that about seven

Points to really feel comfortable I mean we shouldn’t even you know I know teams have bad Seasons but we shouldn’t even be having this conversation I was say how [ __ ] Grim is having this conversation football club I’m not trying to be bigheaded but the fact we speaking about oh we better hope Ross

Count don’t win you know how how terrible is that as I said you know it it backs up the point where I said you know at work that I was glad that men and equalized in the 85th minute because it you know it’s given us that little bit of um you know

Extra breathing room as well we’re all still forgetting St Johnston as well since gone above us um at the weekend but that bottom six is still so incredibly tight but other teams are picking up results in comparison to US just now now you know for the last few episodes um I’ve been

Critical of the club and Dave cormack particular about how quiet they’ve been since this bad runoff form has started now Dave Cormac broke cover and of course head behind his Twitter account um for those of you not on social media because I know there are a few of that

Tune into this podcast that are not on social media but um may have seen the the whatsapps and the tweets or the Tweet being shared on various WhatsApp and messaging platforms but for those living under a rock Saturday Cormac tweeted Don’s fans Alan Burrows and I totally get your frustration that was

Sickening to watch at the end in injury time today the criticism that we are only on here when things are going well is fair but that’s mainly because we cannot answer questions about our employees like players and coaches or discuss details cons uh detailed concerns which could impact more morale

Um funny because I think this tweet could quite easily impact morale um contrasting our play in Europe only 10 weeks ago beating inra Frankfurt reminder that was a dead rber Dave and reaching the Scottish League Cup Final our league form with the same squad has been awful and baffling the support and

Backing including today with a thousand singing from start to finish has been brilliant we too kick every ball and go through all the emotional highs and lows watching the team we know it’s hard going right now but I can assure you we don’t do walking away and we’ll get this

Right because what other tweet is suitable from a chairman without a we dig at Rangers there now look I know I said um I wanted Cormac to come out and say something and that might appease sections of the support but me that tweet made me even more Angry on on

Saturday night um so yes raging when he’s Qui raging when he says something I’m never happy yeah I mean I B picking up on that comment I think regardless of what he says you’re going to be annoyed you um I think obviously given the the nature of

The defeat on Saturday as well emotions are are High um I just I don’t like this I don’t like that name in Frankfurt and the Cup Final I mean okay it is a good achievement for our need to beat Frankfurt but if we’re being completely honest where Frankfurt really giv a [ __ ]

With that game well you know it was it was a it was a dead rber in Europe it was effectively a frankf fort B team at the time it was effectively an Aberdine second string 11 and to be honest we should have been winning other games in Europe P I’ve mentioned hackin

We should have never lost to hackin Helsinki at home I still think we should have beaten them at home and probably should have done them away as well we we were respectable in Europe but I still feel we left plenty of points out there yeah I feel we really

Missed out on on Europe um you know I think a lot of people because we were playing because it was you know the group stages and it was a big spectacle I think people were you know quite excited and stuff but I think it papered

Over a lot of cracks you know um because the game plan for almost every game was to sit behind the ball and not get beat and hit on the counter and I think when we end up drawing games especially away to Frankfurt which of course was a brilliant performance um you know folk

Were just like oh we a good team you I mean because we’re not we’re not winning the games but we’re we’re not losing them um but I think even like domestically even the first game the season against Livingston was absolutely diabolical yeah I think there’s been telltale signs all season that it’s it’s

Going wrong and I think one of the main problems is that they recruited for one system yeah and when they discovered that that system wasn’t working it was a bit like oh [ __ ] you know what do we do now um and that’s you know the comment here

Ra when he quiet and read when he says something again Cormac for me I like him and I know we’ll have a laugh and a joke he puts his money in or wherever the money comes from he puts it in um but he need he needs to get this right and as

Much as we don’t want to talk about it there’s no guarantee that we are going to be going to Safe And if if and if we do you know D I say it end up going down you know how do you the whole the whole club change because your your idea about

Being competitive in Europe and signing all these young players completely changes when you’re in the championship and also from a a managerial point of view how do you how do you sell the club to Ardine a big Club but you know we’re in the championship you know if we’re

Really after a top you know obviously not world class but a decent manager he’s not want to come and play in the championship you know no no totally and I think you know know that’s all you know very very fair points and you know as Dave Murray says

You know he was probably just trying to Dow Flames poly um or or as David Stewart says with petrol he shouldn’t have dowed Flames with petrol um and You Know we’ spoken about him referencing Frankfurt yeah he references a cup final that we didn’t even [ __ ] turn up in

Like getting to a cup final is not an achievement we should be proud of um those of you that have been loyal listeners or loyal Watchers of the show will know last season we referenced Johnny M’s comments about the the club’s statement about being proud of the performance in the semi-final defeat to

Um to Rangers just because we got to a semi-final shouldn’t mean that we’re proud to get there and proud of the performance we shouldn’t be proud of getting to our Cup Final if we don’t [ __ ] lay a glove on the eventual winner I either you know nobody remembers the

Losers even less so when you don’t even you know turn up in a in a final so you know the two games that he’s chose to reference um in that in that tweet for me um are a bit cheap um yeah and then you know chucking in a we we don’t do

Walking away to kind of get fans on side is yeah is that like little bit of cringy in there as well but you know you speak about kind of Cormac or you spoke about Cormac there and you know the money that he’s put in and I think us as a club

Can’t deny that right now we need that money from Dave Cormac you know well we can’t go back to Stuart Mill because we all know it’s happen to him but at the end of the day Dave is a fan he’s a beach end boy he’ll have you know do we

Need somebody you know a proper chairman in terms of running the club properly and we don’t just have Yes Men answering to Dave himself and Dave finances the whole thing you know it’s alleged that this whole restructuring thing has been completed let let’s be honest we’re not

Going to ever find out the full findings of it I’m sure we’ll find out a couple of things but how much detail the fans are ever told for me will remain a mystery but you know whatever your opinion on on Dave is he’s not going anywhere because the club quite probably

Literally can’t afford him to to go anywhere no um again you know we know he’s a fan and and when things are going well he’s quite you know he’s quite funny and everyone s of laps it up but you know this for probably the first time in a number of Seasons despite how

Bad we’ve been in the last couple of Seasons especially around about January the winter months you know this feels really really serious this you know everyone sort of said oh you know we could go down the last couple of Seasons when we’ve been poor but this feels really real this time and

Yeah I I generally feel like we’re in a lot of danger um and again I I like Dave but he needs to get this next appointment right and the recruitment as well it needs to be right because we can’t keep having this thing of spending money on players that we never see and

You know players getting frozen out for some reason I know it’s it’s maybe not the fans business of of bus stops in the in the training ground or whatever or or obviously every manager is going to have their preference um but yeah that comment Andrew Casey I

Agree there you know I think he doesn’t really know how to to run a football club and I think for a few seasons now we’ve been playing a bit of football manager you know signing all these players in instead of maybe you know obviously under McKinnis it was always

Domestic signings more or less and I think honest with you it’s great to have a meowski and a Duke a ramadani but maybe it’s just a little bit too farfetch now and I think maybe you look around the league and you know would it hurt to sign the legs of that boy

Phillips that played for St Johnston you know he’s always impressed me when he’s when he’s played against us H maybe not hard to do this season um and you look at like AO camon for dund D and I understand that fans aren’t going to be impressed with signings face at Johnson

And dunde but with signing liks I can be clean face at mirin you know yeah um and it’s I guess it’s just about getting it right it’s it’s a balancing act you know do you want to keep signing you know foreign boys that don’t know the league

Or should you just go you know we we’ll look for the miosis and the Dukes but you know let’s go and get a player that we know will do well in Scotland yeah and I think you look back at the dun United team that that got to the

Scottish Cup Final where they picked up the likes of margaro Gomez from and some of their other players that were all kind of lower leagues there are kind of some quality players out there but yeah um yeah that that point from uh Andrew Casey for those obviously not watching

Was that the Cormac is the bank but needs someone with a football IQ supporting him there are none in the famous FMB and just a final few things on that kind of relating to to Dave Cormac um where Paul Donaldson saying back in 2000 when we finished bottom I

Don’t remember the club talking about us reaching both Cup finals That season but I guess there was no social media back then fin L saying think it shows Cormac isn’t a leader in the way that we need he needs to let someone else run things as he’s too emotional um I think that’s

A very valid point we’ve very much seen how emotional Dave can get because his leadership has led to where we are it’s all about him and Scott mcclanan also agree very much with Scott where he says there’s no circumstance where Dave Cormac will relinquish control um I

Think really all those points from those guys there are very valid and probably quite agreeable as well but we can sit here and speak about the board and what needs done till the cows come home and we won’t get anywhere um so let’s go back to speaking about footballing

Matters Jay because I was on STV news on Monday evening calling the weekend’s fixture season defining as the dawns L to book another trip to hamen this season in the Scottish cup is Saturday’s game season defining for you Jay you can look at it in two ways I

Guess you know is it season defining in a sense of our last chance of of success yeah but then you could argue the remaining League games are season defining because if we don’t win them then we all know what could happen so as I say you can look at it both ways of

Course you want to get to the Scottish Cup in in the semi-final and try get a bit of silver bear um but yeah I mean it is season def fight in a sense of s success but then you know the other domestic games are also season defin him because as I just said

You know we need to take care of business in the league yeah for for me I just kind of view it as that opportunity to to get back to hamton an opportunity to give us something to play for between now and I think it’s the end of April

When the semi-finals are and it just gives the fans that that little bit of boost that we’re so desperately crying out for this [ __ ] podcast is crying out for a bit of positivity um but also something for the players to motivate themselves towards you know getting to

Play at hamton again and it could then have that positive impact um into those all important League games as you allude to um as well and I guess it’s just you know it’s each to their own in terms of the the opinion on this game but you

Know with over 5,000 tickets still left for this week this weekend’s game is the appetite for the game of course live on BBC Scotland as well is the appetite from the fans there for this game and if we lose and you know those that have commented tonight or are listening along

To this show on on CCH up of mindset that well we’re not going to get relegated you know we’re not going to be in the playoff because Ross County will never catch us what is there to go and watch up todrey for the rest of the

Season what is there Worth to go and spend my money on following Aberdine the attendances dwindled the income doesn’t keep coming you know you know the comment here was you know our supporters not confident of a win or have they started to vote with their feet in

Protest at what’s going on a defeat could lead to more voting with their feet it’s it’s it is difficult and and I don’t blame some fans you know for for not wanting to go to the games is a it is a thought you know because you know

For me football is always supposed to be an enjoyable thing and you go and it’s a release for a lot of people going and spend some time with your mates and socializing but you know the club bang on about support and engagement and atmosphere you know the club playing the

Way they are the team playing the way they are it’s really difficult to get up for a game you know um and and today people going about all real support following their team and all that it all costs money you know it’s not free and

It’s a lot of money for some people to go to the football um so you know I don’t blame them obviously it’s a quarterfinal um and obviously the die hards if you like will also go to the game and and hope that the club can pull themselves together and like you say

Give the fans something to come together um for at the National Stadium and try and make it a memorable season by by winning the Scottish cup which seems you know unlikely um but it’s just one of those things you don’t I don’t blame fans either way and like I said it all costs

Money um but as you said at the start of the show we need to get behind the team and just hope that we can and you know motivate them over the line and and just try and help them as much as we can because especially after the weekend’s

Result uh they need all the help they can get after that confidence uh down in the last couple of minutes yeah and I think that that’s very very good point because I’m sure that the confidence will be fragile and on the floor after the the last few minutes at Paisley and they’ll

Need that that left and they’ll need the fans to show that they are are with them from the start at the weekend we’ve seen Neil Warick regularly make four changes to his starting lineup do you think we’ll see another four changes going into this weekend do you think Neil

Might look to stick with as I’m certainly hoping he does the the team that started the the game against St mirin um I have a funny feeling we could maybe see um Phillips potentially drop out for Jamie mcgraham maybe the only change um I can’t help but feel given

The performance of the the backline um we see a couple of changes defensively but again you speak about confidence and players confidences dropping them so quickly how much does that then knock on that confidence of players as well you you know go back to this and johnon game and hooking Richard

Jansen minutes after him conceding a penalty I think it’s just the weekend is going to be a case of it you know the cup it’s a one-off game um go with a team that the weekend that almost got a win as silly as that sounds we’re minutes away from Victory so against a

Simar inside that are in really good form especially at home and they almost got the job done um so I guess that could maybe give them an ounce of confidence that they they almost got themselves a win um I would go with the same team I think you know that duke

Hoil it on the wings width running at Defenders create putting balls in the Box for biovi hopefully um a one-off game and surely the players can pull themselves together because you know there’s the opportunity like I said of getting to to hammed in and and you know

Play on a big stage for some of the players if they want to try and put themselves in the in the window if they’re wi if they’re wi out yeah and you know oddly enough you know The Bookies have got us as marginal favorites for this game which I find

Absolutely baffling um given the fact that we’ve yet to score against karik this season and you know really haven’t kind of tested karik anywhere near um as much as we we should have um interesting from Andrew Casey saying that you know we need Phillips’s size and physicality for Kelly mcgran

Clarkson will get bullied um West Coast Dawn saying pretty much the the same you know we need height in the team even M McKinnis has spotted this so he would have um Philip starting for fight and an aggression um in the team um I guess you

Know then if you’re looking to to take Angus McDonald out with the team does does Jack mil come back into the team I wonder if um I wonder if Jack McKenzie comes back into team I don’t know where he’s been um from the weekend Jimmy Jimmy mcgar coming in interesting that

Jimmy mcgar when he came into the team on Saturday played as a Winger rather than than left back he came on to to replace Junior H hot does big game Dante um get into the starting lineup as well because we’ve seen what he’s offered um in big games this season and again

Another player that can certainly add a bit of height to this team not sure quite what levels of aggression we could see from from him but definitely adds height yeah I mean you know Killy fans might not like it but as war was sort of um correct and saying that you know KY

Will come and try to rough us up they’ll try and you know play ugly and and Bully us so you know maybe the legs are Phillips and pvar a bit of height in there maybe even sticking L you say Jack milman there with Angus maybe as a in

And obviously Jack McKenzie’s it looks a strong lad as well so maybe he comes back in for me he should be playing anyway you know it’s it’s so difficult to tell right now again if he takes Angus out F be saying oh how’s he supposed to get up to speed if he’s in

And out in and out you know so again it goes back to that thing of I guess it shouldn’t be but I guess for war it’s just a a case of an experiment he it’s probably not I was watching another podcast this morning and about the open

Go podcast and the boy the boy said um you know should War have done a bit more research before taking the job because the squad that we have aren’t his type of players you know he’d probably have a big Target man up top and basically a

Bunch of thugs playing and we’re a very nice you know Tippy toppy good footballing team War has come out and said that himself that we’re we’re we’re too nice we’re not we’re not aggressive enough my my other kind of concern around the the changing of the the back

Four and if we do go um down that is it’s another new back for in front of K Rose you know I kind of look as much as I’m critical of K Rose he’s not getting the chance to sit in behind a settled back four but also the back four

Probably are not very trustworthy of what their keeper doing because he doesn’t have the confidence to hold a ball he punches it doesn’t really ever come out for a ball at times as well but he’s also playing in behind different players and isn’t sure what they’re

Going to do as well you know I kind of felt a couple of times against Johnson when Stephen gartman was leaving the ball yeah Kus was expecting Stefan to deal with it Stephan was expecting Kell to deal with it so we’re not getting that consistency and solidarity in in

The defense and you know that’s obviously attributing to the goals as well as them kind of switching off but we can’t just keep throwing [ __ ] at the wall and hoping it sticks because it’s not working just now and for me Saturday’s a cup game anything can

Happen in in the cup um of course no replays as well so Saturday’s game will be played to a conclusion um even if that means extra time and penalties although I know a lot of you will be hoping it doesn’t go that far given Kell Russ’s um record at sving penalties this

Season um but I just hope that you know we get that that bit of luck you know Johnny hay speaking in his pre-match conference ahead of the the weekend’s game down in Paisley saying that you know normally you get that little kind of new manager bounce for four or five games before

Results Plateau maybe we’re getting the shite out the way and then getting that bounce towards the end of the season maybe just hoping we’re getting that bit of luck we got our final bit of bad luck out the way against mid and something Good’s finally going to happen

And I just hope for those of us that are in attendance at the weekend and are sticking with the team or those that you know can’t manage for whatever reason and are watching um around the world or at home in Scotland are rewarded with a DA’s Victory on on Saturday because it’s

About time we’ve we’ve got some positivity back and it would be nice to have a semi-final to to to have on that back burner to look forward to uh and then back to to focusing on securing our Premiership States for for our next season yeah well you’d like to think so

Surely for a one-off game you just you know you know we’ve got good players you know they’re a good side I know it sounds stupid but you know MRA sheny you know Duke meowski Clarks and you know when Devin even you know you know they’re good players it’s just not going

Right for them and I know it’s it’s frustrating but you can just hope that you can only but hope that they can pull themselves together for this one-off game it’s a big game season defining as you saying um yeah they win that and gives them a buzz gives the fans a buzz

And maybe we can sort of just stutter uh to to safety um yeah that’s all that matters now you know it doesn’t matter if it’s a pretty win or an own goal a deflection a penalty you know just just win at this point and um that’s all you

Can ask yeah and I think you could apply that to not just Saturday but the kind of next two or three League games as well just get what we need to as you say stutter um o o over the line but Jay thank you very much for coming on the

Show tonight um swapping the comments box for the co-host chair and making your RTG debut it’s been a pleasure to have you on the show um and chat all things at Aberdine even if they haven’t been the most positive um situation but you’ve done a good job on your debut as

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