Whether it’s inside or outside of the cage, Justin Jaynes is a true fighter through and through ,in this exciting episode, he sits down with Marcus talks, Mjx, martial arts, UFOs, Bigfoot, and lifes struggles .
——— EPISODE CHAPTERS ———
(0:00:01) – Fighter Interviews on Marcus Degan Show
(0:09:18) – Strength and Emotion
(0:14:15) – Father-Son Relationship and UFC Struggles
(0:20:44) – MMA Fighter’s Journey and Mental Health
(0:23:29) – Combat Sports Athlete Conversations
(0:28:21) – Athletes Transitioning to Boxing and Travels
(0:34:07) – Beliefs, Aliens, and Open-Mindedness
(0:42:44) – Belief in Aliens and Religion
(0:46:38) – Resilience and Freedom of Speech
Hey everybody this is Justin James and you’re watching the mark Degan [Applause] show the Marcus Degan show hey what’s the story guys welcome to another episode of the podcast I’m your host Marcus Degan as always shooting from Sin City Las Vegas probably one of the greatest places on
Earth if you haven’t been here you got to come here stop watching it on TV and come and say good day thanks for joining us once again make sure to like share and subscribe on all of your streaming platforms we got another great interview here today I don’t really like to call
It an interview I like to call it conversations with interesting and inspiring people today we have got another I don’t want to say former fighter because even though maybe you don’t fight in the organizations anymore I think that’s something that you always are would you welcome to the podcast
Justin James well thanks for having me Marcus really appreciate you be here and yes Las Vegas is the Greatest Town in the earth man you guys you got food 247 man how does it get any better than that so where have you always come from here
Like where were you before here uh I’m I was from Detroit Michigan I moved moved out here uh I did my college internship 2009 2010 as what uh uh Sport and Fitness management at alette college so I got my four-year bachelor degree out there moved out here in early 2012 after
I graduate and the rest is history man just dedicated my life to MMA and here we are talking about it yeah do you do a lot of interviews and do you do a lot of podcasts to talk about your story uh not really to talk about my story but yeah I
Do run a podcast uh Monday Friday it’s called the 107 MMA show it’s on YouTube We’re small but we’re building uh basically we just break down every week fights uh who me and my host is think is going to win kind of get a little uh uh
Little uh um rivalry per se between each other yeah yeah just fun and then we review or we talk about them on Friday we review them on Monday so if you guys are watching the 107 MMA podcast on YouTube greatly uh great appreciate any support oh I’m definitely going to go
And check it out so you guys obviously had a podcast about the fights that happened last weekend yes sir and who did it go in your favor of who you thought so let’s let’s just discuss a couple of the fights on there Paul o Costa
Man Paul a Costa let me tell you this and I talked a little bit of [ __ ] about Costa you know coming into this questioning his mental toughness questioning his heart you know uh having to back out of a couple fights you know his last performance when he fought uh
Against Izzy didn’t think it was very good very lackluster I was wondering if he was going to carry into Whitaker fight with that I had Whitaker winning this fight all the way but to my surprise Paul Costa showed up he put on a banger of a fight and he won me back
As a fan man I’m really happy to see although he lost I think he’s going to be still in the mix really soon and I think he’s be in title contention really soon how good did he fight [ __ ] physique look man this guy is look like
A chip and Di he looks like a a GI Joe character you know and he complain he talks about his secret juice and stuff and and I know you know all the drug testing they do in usid this guy is all natural at least on fight day because we
Get tested right before so guy looks like a GI Joe man I wish I could look like that yeah I saw a lot of the funny comments how does this guy pass you s so how close to the fight would they test you we’re talking about the morning of
Oh really do you know it’s going to be that or is it just it could be anytime at all uh well they can show up at your house they can I’ve had them show them at the gym one time I was vacation they’re wondering where I’m at on
Vacation marking they give you a strikes per se so I went to Mexico for a week not thinking usada is going to hit me up oh you’re not in the US you didn’t tell us you’re leaving boom you get a strike so and that was a strike a strike you
Get three strikes you’re suspended so that was a big deal when I when I got that but yeah man they showed up in my house 7 o’clock in the morning knock knock usada answer now um they’ve showed up at my gym hey Knock Knock You side is
Here and once they’re there they’re your buddy they’re they’re not you don’t leave their side like they’ll follow you to the bathroom they follow you here follow you there they follow you to work they showed to my house I’m like I got GO train they’re like oh we’ll follow
You to the gym so it was actually really harassing when I saw you was uh being cut out of the mix I was really happy um because it’s harassing as hell man I’m trying to get ready for a fight I’m trying to sleep and they’re waking me up
In the middle of the mon or you know early 7 o’clock in the morning um but you can’t tell them to piss off can you no you cannot they will wait there the one time I did I had covid so I yelled out my door I’m like I have covid so
They left uh but yeah so after you weigh in you weigh in early in the morning uh your show your standoffs are around noon um you have the the rest of the day do whatever you get back to the hotel and then 7 8:00 in the morning knock knock
They’re an they’re knocking on their door to take a piss test with the main event do you think that um vog deserves an immediate rematch do you think rematches are something that Champions that have had such a long standing as him deserve to get straight away or do
You think it’s just time to move on now it’s a different Circle it’s a different cycle you know we’re talking about one of the greatest featherweights of all time you know there’s five great Champions that been apart he has five title defenses he we beat Max Hollow not
Once not twice but three times we’re talking about one of the greatest featherweight Strikers of all times and although they were split decisions very close fights even just to go five rounds with this animal let alone win was incredible now moving on to the number one pound-for-pound fighter in the world
Islam makev he takes him on twice goes to decision once takes a 10day short notice fight when he was talking about being on a bender for a week goes in there f a very fast experienced torea young at that age too he’s only 27 years
Old guy’s going to have a great I think vulcanos should have an immediate title title rematch I mean this guy has done everything in the sport he’s went up he’s went down he’s stay like he’s just a great guy that you know when I look at these upand cominging Fighters that I
Train him like if you want to pick a fighter to be like be like vulcanos he works his ass off he makes no excuses even in these losses he makes absolutely no excuses he shows up he makes weight he’s professional he’s a great person for guys to look up and idolize uh this
Day in sport do you think he came back a little too early after that head KCK knock out like how long can well this is a two base question do you think he came back too early and how long can it affect you for afterwards getting viciously knocked out like that you know
I do think he came back too early and I learned this early in my career Martin campman uh from Denmark he was ranked top three in the UFC excuse me um you know fought uh was one fight away from a title fight a couple times his biggest
Thing when he retired to the UFC to tell me is when you get hurt whether it’s in training whether it’s in a fight you need to take time off you only get one brain you know you break your hand I mean you take 3 months off 6 months off
Sometimes you have to get let the bone repair you have to do rehab then you got make sure you feel good your brain is similar in the same sense you take that bruise on your brain and that’s not recovered it’s only been a couple months
I mean I think he should have took six months maybe even a year off that was a brutal knockout you know and again he was out of shape uh and he go in there and that was one thing going into this fight that I was concerned about his
Mentality of where he could be can he get knocked out like that again and unfortunately for him it happened again against ilot tooro yeah I suppose once again it comes down to the [ __ ] mind bro you know people say that mindset is such a huge part of this MMA game and
Like you just said maybe mentally he was affected after that last knockout I suppose Knockouts like that can affect you and and devastating coming back from a devastating injury can affect you do you remember when um Chris wman came back and he fought I believe it was Brad
Tarez in his very first fight and Brad tarz just recently it was last year actually just kicked that [ __ ] leg until you could hear the shrieks from everybody in the crowd um Connor’s going to be coming back from a pretty bad injury allegedly allegedly he’s going to
Be coming back right let’s hope he does but but if he does he doesn’t but do you think that as a fighter if you’re going in to fight Conor McGregor after that are you just going to attack that leg full strength you know 100% I really do
Now I think it’s going to be tough to attack Connor’s leg because it’s his rear leg so he’s going to have to switch to an orthodox or you’re going to have to make it really you’re going to have to getting Connor’s range to attack that back leg with how powerful his left hand
Is I think he’s going to be able to hide that leg enough but it’s going to take away his kicks you know Southpaw to Orthodox he’s going to be kicking the inside of the leg a lot on Orthodox Fighters is he going to restrain from or
Refrain from doing that when I broke my right leg I threw a leg kick I kicked a guy in the knee I couldn’t kick proper for almost three years just this last year two years I’ve been able to do it again where’d you break it uh right
Right right here right here at the joint and uh it was terrible I’m talking two three years anytime I’d make any impact outside an elbow a hip a whatever even if I hit a quad but it was in the wrong spot I mean yeah it hurt and finally
This year I feel confident you can see my last my last fight I was throwing a lot of kicks and I feel 100% again so how do you mentally get over because you’ve had a few injuries in your career right [ __ ] neck surgery nose surgery obviously I’m not sure if you had
Surgery I didn’t have surgery here but I went through rehab for almost a year at the pi at the P [ __ ] thank God for the pr right so like mentally you’ve got to be are you do you say that your mentally Str strength comes from being
In mixed martial arts or are you just that kind of guy you know honestly I think my mental strength my mental fortitude you know comes from you know my mom to be honest like I’m talking about one of the toughest women I’ve ever met in my life you know she works
Her ass off works the 9 to-5 ground comes home we have a a 20 horse horse ranch that she basically runs by herself so we don’t have 20 anymore we’re down to three to five uh but she she’s 60 something in her mid-60s she busts her
Ass at work she comes home she puts you know all her time into her animals you know I had a sister that was two years younger than me she passed away in a car accident uh when she was 19 years old and you know just to see my mom deal
With with that and be able to bounce back for that still you know go to work come back take care of all the animals and and dealing with the death of a child and having a son like me who moved out to Las Vegas away from the farm to
Pursue of All Sports MMA and get get my ass beat win or lose uh we’re talking about the mentally strongest person I know in the world and you know I look I looked around when I had neck surgery and I talked about retiring this and that it’s like you know my it’s crazy
Here’s another thing like a couple years ago she was climbing up the ladder to go up into the barn um you understand the rings of a ladder are like this her legs gets caughts in the middle of the winter she slips her legs gets caught she gets
A compound tib FR fracture she Army crawls 200 yards up to the house the dogs are barking at her and my stepdad’s in the house and you know she army crawl up like this is a tough [ __ ] and you know I look at the injuries that that I
Have to overcome the things that she’s overcome are so minuscule to the things that I’ve had to overcome yeah hand surgery nose surgery neck surgery but we’re talking real problems real life problems the passing of a daughter compound fracture when you’re in your 60s I mean some people die from that um
You know work working the 9 to-5 grind coming home to take care of all our animals man and anytime I think that I’m being weak I look at my mom and she’s the strongest person I know see this is what I talk about this this is what’s good about these podcasts
Is because once again you can hear the extreme pain and um hurt that someone’s gone through but can still come out of it on the other side reasonably sane and and and maybe even a little bit stronger would you agree with that yeah 100% I mean I I
Just look there’s nothing can slow her down and you know honestly I’m glad we got to talk about this on the podcast because it’s really weird like when I’m with her I don’t show her that like I don’t show her that respect that I’m showing her right now and it’s really
Weird like when we’re face to face I would never say this to her I’m just uncomfortable about it hopefully she sees this and she knows how much I love her and you know how much she’s helped me get through not even realizing because again I look oh I I had neck
Surgery yeah that [ __ ] sucks mom had a tip fit fracture and army crawled through horse manure and dirt and mud and snow all the way up to the house just to call an Ambiance for herself and that to me is real strength is she walking okay now she not only is she
Walking here’s another thing oneing no she is uh she does tough mutters she does Spartan races and I’m not saying they’re especially fast but that [ __ ] gets in there and she finishes all of them so I mean it’s she she’s just a motivation anybody that knows her she’s a tough [ __ ] she’s very
Stubborn she’s hard sometimes hard to deal with because she’s so stubborn but she’s the mentally the strongest person I’ve ever met I’m literally I feel really good right my God hey I’m starting to get some tingles um yeah man I love that you can talk about that because it’s so I can’t
Talk about it to her though I feel really uncomfortable about do think that is I have no idea I don’t say it to I don’t I don’t know I just don’t I don’t show a lot of affection to my to my mom or or my dad and and I love him to death
And I don’t know why I I wish I could I wish I could have this conversation with her instead of having it on TV um but I just I’m not comfortable about it I don’t know why why I think maybe you just got to you know how it says you
Know face your fears and maybe you know make the uncomfortable comfortable so have you ever just thought about just sitting down just saying look I want to talk to you about something that I’ve never spoken to you about before this is going to be a little difficult for me to
Do this however I’m going to give it my best shot and then grab both of her hands and say Mom and then just [ __ ] tell her how you feel bro because you have to because time is our most precious commodity and we don’t have a lot of it especially you know at Mom’s
Age she’s on the back end of it now you know what I mean and that’s just the fact yeah um so you got to make up for that because I think you would regret it if uh you know God forbid something ever happened to Mom and she you know she
Went to heaven and you didn’t have that chance to say it um you know I honestly think what it is is I know how her reaction would be and how emotional it would be and to see her emotions from what I have to say uh I don’t like to be
Emotional I don’t like to show emotion I like to hid behind the c Claus and I know how that would make me feel seeing her as good as make her feel I she cries I cry I don’t want to cry I’m a tough guy I’m an MMA fighter man I don’t you know
See your eyes get watery twice I’m not even joking dude I’m sitting here I can feel I keep trying to rub my eyes no I’m good like it’s an emotional topic for me man and to talk about it publicly uh is very emotional yeah it’s so good to do though bro
Because it it lets it out a bit and it helps you express verbally how you feel to someone else instead of just having to internalize it and I believe when you can verbally express your love about someone it it it’s a really good thing
You know what I mean I think it is um I reckon your mom’s really proud of you and you’re you’re a parent too right yeah I have I have a 15-year-old he’s 15 yes how’s that going at 15 man I had I’ll be honest man it’s it’s [ __ ]
Tough right my it’s really not dude I got so Lu it’s not are you got a good one I have the best kid and I have the best relationship with his mom and the best relationship with his stepdad we are a a full family unit you know you
Know there’s nothing weird between us you know his mom and I dated when we were 15 years old till we were like 20 um you know then we had Ben at around 20 years old and you know I’m 34 now she’s uh 35 and you know her her her husband’s
A little bit older but man he’s such a great guy and she’s such a great mom my son is not like me when I was his age all I cared about were girls and beating people in wrestling that’s all I cared about all he cares about is football and
Good grades he doesn’t care about girls I mean I’m sure he does he’s 15 but not like how I did he’s very empathetic you know like I like the hunt I love to kill animals and it’s not about the kill it’s just the whole the whole but he has a
Lot of empathy you know he’s very sad sometimes when this happens and I never was like that I always wanted bigger animals and more animals and he’s just a lot more empathetic and caring than I am and I couldn’t be more grateful for a better son that’s so awesome bro my
Sister my two nephews were just murder growing up you know what I mean bad bad boys so you lucked out with getting a good one that’s good and does he live with you or no he lives in Michigan with his mom and I credit you know his mom
And his stepdad man it’s you know they’re both cops out in Detroit they’re Detroit cops wow far tough tough tough lifestyle to live especially in Detroit man and she tells me some of her stories man and we’re we’re talking about another very so a very mentally strong
Person so Ben is very fortunate he has Jeremy you know his stepdad who who’s a great guy he’s a retired cop from Detroit uh he has his dad who obviously I’m mentally strong his mom is is some of the mentally strongest people he sees his grandma I mean the mentally
Strongest person I’ve ever met man this guy’s surrounded with great people to look up to you know and and we always say hey we’re never going to make a lot of money but we share a lot of love so and that that that means a lot to me I
Think that with the way kids are these days and with the way that you know with the lack of respect and [ __ ] that kids have it all stems down to the family unit like what you said having you know that that those branches of family around you to protect you and also good
Jeans yeah you know what I mean I bet he doesn’t smoke potto drink or anything like that no I mean and he we we actually excuse me a bubbly water it’s a bubbly water like we’ve talked about it before and he he uh you know his answer is is you know
I understand how kids grown up and it’s a lot different now than when it was for me and he says he’s been offered and he goes no I’m an athlete like I want to go to college I want to play football in college I want to his his goal is to be
In the NFL you know and I’m going to support that as as long as I can until he decides otherwise I do not want him to be a fighter this is a terrible lifestyle uh there’s no money in it essentially unless you’re you know the world champion um I mean I’ve traveled
The world and seen some great things and some crazy things but at the end of the day I want my son taken care of and I hope he goes down another career path that that can um segue into can you play that little asset this is what made me fall in love
With you Justin not no homo but yeah no no more homo the better we might be able to hear this was improv 2 as well by the way we won’t be able to hear it but without the headphones but three years of my life have been this time I’ve had nose
Surgery hand surgery neck surgery I lost lost my UFC contract I lost all my money in a split decision when I bet on myself all you mother out there that are in the dumps right now just keep persevering and keep getting up in the morning I
Love that let me tell you guys keep getting up in the morning yeah so when I saw it like I I kind of I know a little bit about your career I Won’t Say I’m an expert but I’ve you know I know that you’re a great coach and you know you’ve
Been in a bunch of the top organizations but when I saw that that uh that that little clip there it just it said so much about you and that’s why I was really looking forward to talking you to you today cuz I wanted to see where that
Spirit comes from and you’ve kind of explained that uh you know with with how you are with your mental strength yeah it’s like I said you know I wake up in the morning like this morning was an early morning for me up at 8:00 I wake
Up I look down now as soon as I wake up my TV’s right in front right to the right side of my TV I have a picture of my son and I can’t tell you how many times I’ve woke up like I don’t want to
Go train and I see him and it’s a picture of him in his wrestling stand and it’s like you know what I need to get up because this [ __ ] is depending on me and who am I to try to set an example for him if I’m not waking
Up in the morning how can I expect him to you know what one where me and my dad we miss click you know he’s very motivational he’s very supportive but he always tells me what I need to be doing when he never did any of that and it’s
Very hard it’s easy for him to be like hey you need to do this and you need that it’s like [ __ ] when you were my age you never did any of this when you were younger than me you did any of this older you know I mean I love
My dead to death we with your dad a little bit maybe just conflicting personalities yeah a little bit you know doesn’t mean you not love me he just pisses you the [ __ ] off pisses me off and you he rides me and it’s hard for him to tell me what to do when he’s
Never done it so like when I see my son it’s like hey this is what you need to do oh I don’t want to do that hey [ __ ] I’m doing this every morning you get your ass up and do it too and I I might have got to the top
But I was unsuccessful I’ll just I’ll call it the way it is you know I went one and four in the UFC and I did I went Above and Beyond in a lot of ways and I tell him I’m like look I did this this this this and this I might have got
There but I still fizzled out so you have to do more than I just to get I mean you have to do at least as much as me to get to where I was and more than what I did to to say anything exactly so
So you say fizzled out was that how you look at it I mean this is I mean my UFC stent was it was really rough man I mean nobody really understands the B the UFC business they just watch TVs oh James is fighting this weekend cool like my first
Fight three-day notice my second fight I had four-week notice I had to go down to featherweight which I’ve never made in my whole career before I had four weeks ago from 185 to 145 made it gassed out in the first 2 seconds of the round oh really yeah thir because of the white
Cut oh it was terrible I was crying during the white cut I’m like I’m done and Dennis Davis Roman isbel there to support me 100% all the way like get your ass up you got another half pound to go mentally broke like my the my the
Last hour of my weight cut was me standing up and either Roman or Dennis pushing me on the ground stand back up that was it for an hour straight it was [ __ ] terrible um you know that you know and then my next fight after that two we notice uh right after drag covid
You know I have I’m like I can’t fight uh this weekend I have Co all right well what about next weekend it’s like okay I’m clear all right well I haven’t been training right next week after that three-day notice Devonte Smith uh they’re like hey if you don’t take this
Fight like you know we might just cut you and I was like [ __ ] so three-day notice to fight Devonte Smith then finally I got a full Camp to fight Charles Ros and you know I lost a split decision man and that was it I took a
Neck injury I thought it was just a kink in my neck I played college football I wrestled in college I’ve dealt with injuries before I was like ah it’s just a little stiffness I’m old next thing I know I can’t move my left side did rehab
For six months try to gain it back and they’re like you got to go under the knife and I went under the knife last year um and see this guy yeah right here I got disc replacement um the same thing as me it’s dude best best decision I’ve
Ever made I feel I feel like a younger fresher version of myself right now as you saw my last fight I’m firing all cylinders I’m making one last run to get to the UFC I want to show my son that you know hey neck surgery hand surgery nose surgery all three surgeries in
Three years that you can come back from [ __ ] anything and if if I never win another fight after this Carson Hardman fight I don’t give a [ __ ] but if I encourage somebody to wake up in the morning and do better for themselves or for their family my job’s done and this
Is this is where I can say how the MMA Community particularly the MMA fans who you know I love however they are very critical and they are very I don’t think they’re that knowledgeable on they’re only seeing what they see in that 15 minutes or that you know that 25
Minutes you’re not hearing like these kind of stories and I I think that if fans heard more stories like this they would tend to not speak so much [ __ ] online this is why I like you know hearing these kind of things because people are just so quick to jump online
And and do you get a lot of that oh man you suck you UFC cre suck it’s the [ __ ] worst dude you get it a lot I mean if I when I won my UFC debut I had a thousand messages that were all stroking my ego how great you are I lost
A couple in a row you owe me money I bet on you hey you [ __ ] suck as a fighter hey 4055 West Sunset show up anytime I’ll be there and we can see how much I suck no they never show up nobody’s ever shown up yeah I thought about a reality
Show kind of you get the biggest trolls in America that talk [ __ ] to professional fighters and then you bring him down bully beat down bully beat down they bully beat down yeah that’s right they did and who was the host from that uh Jason Miller uh college roommate
Darren kir shank former UFC vet I got to go down to Salt Lake City and watch him put it on a bully and I mean that show’s legit like they think it’s staged or choreographed it’s not like these Fighters years ago they need to do an updated version yes absolutely and
They’ve talked about it bringing Jason back cuz he’s such a wild wild Jason these days no idea no idea yeah it’s um it’s mental health something that a lot of f has suffered from do you think yeah I really think CTE is real man and and
You know you look at you know and and I’m not talking [ __ ] about Chuck Liddell by any means I think he’s a legend of the sport I’ve hung out with him a bunch of times the guy’s the nicest guy ever but you look early in his career man he
Could take heavy damage in his fights now he gets touched on the Chan I mean he’s in his 50s you know maybe even 60s now but you know he fought Tito Ortiz a couple five or 10 years ago like I really think that Randy C Randy Couture
Man I think he fought Randy uh he fought Randy three times you know one two out of three you know I man this I’m very fortunate to be a part of the Cleveland Clinic does a brain study uh uh and I have to go back every year and I have to
Do all these cognitive tests and they’re really trying to find out where CTE is in relation to Fighters particularly boxers and MMA fighters uh over periods of time so I’ve been doing this study for 10 years and hopefully in the next 10 15 years they’re going to continue to
Bring me back and they’re going to at a long we’re talking about I started when I was 20 years old I’m 34 now and uh and what’s what have they said uh right now it’s crazy cuz my I don’t take very much damage in my fights to be honest I’ve
Never been knocked out uh the one you know I got tko’ed um but that was just because of the eye right uh yeah the eye you know that i’ never taken real damage in a fight I mean I’ve been punched don’t get me wrong you never taken real
Dam don’t have a look at his eye in that fight yeah don’t look at my ey I mean you look at my face and you know but but but as for brain damage as for being turned off uh you know I’ve never been knocked out I’ve never been even in
Training never been kned knocked out cold so i’ I’ve taken care of my brain actually my test scores actually are getting better they’re saying but when they look at my MRI I’m uh it’s starting to get gray matter um so when they look at the MRI you have your clean gray or
Your clean uh contrast but as the years went spots little spots of gray are starting to show up and that’s where the brain’s dying and they think that’s where the injury is recurring so the more damage I take the more gray eventually all our brains are going to
Start as we old uh get older we will all get those spots but they’re it’s happening faster and Fighters than non Fighters I’ve got gray spots all over my brain it’s not from fighting it’s just from taking copious amounts of drugs in my 20s 30s and 40s so have you seen the
Power slap oh man I thought about doing it five grand get up there and slap some [ __ ] why not I me you can win a 10 grand bonus as well I I’m not afraid of that man yeah so I mean talking about CTE there’s no like I was talking to
Those guys last week and you know there’s no real defense from Power slap being in power slap your defense is maybe to exercise your jaw have a thick strong neck but it’s really trying to [ __ ] with your opponent prior to getting slapped have you watched it what do you
Think of it I think it’s awesome man I I really enjoy watching it I love you know lighting a joint and watching a couple fights in power slap man cuz these guys are as tough as nails dude ree Archer a guy from uh Michigan he’s in power slap
Right now man this guy is a huge I mean watching his highlights are just getting slapped across the face and then delivering and and these guys are getting knocked the [ __ ] out bro like their heads are snapping down I’ve seen people crack their heads fortunately you
Know they’re doing a really good job I think of trying to catch them as they’re falling and I think Forest Griffin’s doing that Forest Griffin yeah exactly he’s a garang man 6’4 man just a huge muscle of a man he’s getting there grabbing these guys before they’re
Taking serious damage hit in the ground and I think it’s great yeah we had a whole bunch of them in here I interviewed a whole bunch of them and they’re just like I was saying to them UFC guys are kind of a little Untouchable whereas these power slap
Guys they’re just like regular dudes just like regular [ __ ] guys and you know a lot of people talk [ __ ] on that sport as well like they do on the UFC when it first started but there there is some skill there like trying to throw force from your upper body
Without moving your feet that’s got to be difficult right because as you know you know as well as I do it’s your power generates from your legs yep so what is it all back and shoulder with them and [ __ ] big hands I think it’s technique to be honest because in any sport
Whether it’s baseball whether it’s MMA you have to turn your hips you have golf you know you have to rotate on that back foot since you can’t do that in power slap and you know it’s beneficial to the fighters that they can because they generate so much more power it would
Knock them out a lot easier a lot easier and I mean really the guy that throws the first slap has the significant Advantage but so there is technique behind it but man you look at these big Samoan guys with baseball Ms for gloves I’m not looking to get slapped by those
Guys man Manu my main man right there all 400 lb of super heavy weight we had him in the studio but just such a sweetheart of a guy he said that everyone said all the little kids think he’s Maui from from I know I know I know
You’re yes I know what movie you’re talking about the rock PL yeah yeah yeah yeah the rock player do you do you watch WWE and did you see uh did you see your mate Michael Chandler’s WWE call out of uh the Irishman Conor McGregor last
Night yeah I actually did I saw that I mean that was I think he did it perfect man he a little crack in the voice there man Chandler is just an animal of a man I had the pleasure to train with him when he was in Bellator he came to a
Couture for years the guy is a freak of nature he’s athletic he’s strong he’s fast he’s durable as you can tell Justin gatei Mike Chandler is one of the favorite my most favorite fights of all time um but yeah to answer your WWE question is that’s like why I get into
Wrestling uh because you know I’m A Stone Cold Steve Austin fan and I remember sitting in my basement i’ have like a 65 pound par dumbbell and I’d be doing bench watching stone cold drink beer and I was like that’s what I want to do when I grow up and and then I
Heard wrestling was in high school or middle school so I signed up and it wasn’t anything like I thought it was and when I saw the singlet I was like dude Steve Austin doesn’t wear that he just wears a knee brace and you know shorts yeah so I was like this isn’t
Real wrestling like this is fake and you know I fell in love with the sport of wrestling and as Steve Austin kind of moved on from WWE I just stayed with him went to college wrestled in college wanted to compete and do something after college and here I am have you seen Jake
Logan Paul wrestling in the WWE now he’s quite athletic for a big guy and we’re talking about Logan Paul who’s a state champion wrestler from Ohio I don’t know if you knew that it’s either Jake or Logan or both I mean these guys are super athletes they’re not just regular
YouTubers that are coming out trying to transition to a sport these are athletes transitioning over and when you have as much money as Jake Paul and Logan Paul you can dedicate your whole life to boxing per se you can pay for the best trainers you can pay for the best
Dieticians you can pay for the best supplements that’s why these guys are having success not to mention again because they’re athletes so they were athletes crossing over to YouTubers that are now Crossing back over to being athlet ex a lot of people don’t they don’t know that that’s good that you
Brought that up because look I mean Jake Paul’s no joke he’s doing pretty good now man like and and I I like how he’s just trying to build his record he’s just trying to build up his wins and he’s doing pretty well that people still [ __ ] hate on why why do people like
To hate man I I think there’s jealousy and you know when you look at when you when you say the second part of what we just talked about a YouTuber transitioning into boxing people don’t understand his background this guy is a super athlete he’s a he was like I said
A state champion wrestler and to have the mindset to wrestle in Ohio which is a very very hard state to wrestle in why is that uh the Midwest just has the best wrestlers Michigan Ohio I think cuz we’re all farm bred was going to say I was going to wa
For you to say no we’re all I mean we’re all beer drinking Farm bread bucking hay on the weekends you know it’s just we got that real tough mentality you know Michigan Ohio Pennsylvania you know Iowa Minnesota Wisconsin like we have some incredible wrestlers so for him to
Transition then he goes to YouTube makes all his millions now he can dedicate everything to training and I’ll be honest when he first started doing I was envious I was jealous like this [ __ ] is just a YouTube Spar I did some some research on him he’s an
Athlete and he’s doing it right and to knock out Tyrone Woodley man Tyrone is a freaking animal dude and I know these are smaller guys but Tyrone is no joke and you know uh Ben Asar I mean he’s not a boxer but now he goes and he’s beating
Real boxers yeah I mean he arguably you know the Tommy Fury fight he could have it was pretty close all around I think there was too much grabbing and holding on the part of Tommy Fury but I’m looking forward to seeing what happens next with Jake and Logan Paul I used to
Be the same way as you I always I thought they were [ __ ] as well but uh now you know I’ve grown to have a little bit more respect and I think i’ I’ve always respected Fighters but when you talk to them for a living it just [ __ ] increases like tenfold there’s
No it the knowledge that I get from talking to all of you guys because you’re just such a 1% of the of the world can do what you do and when I say can do what you do I mean in the sense of you know how you’ve like you see
People checking leg kicks on TV and then four or five or six and you’re hearing it you’re seeing the you know what it’s like when you kick your shin on the coffee table that [ __ ] hurts so bad but yet these guys can get in there and
Do it over and over and over and over and over again like it’s nothing how do you guys do that how do you how does how’s your pain tolerance different you know I don’t think it’s anything different because you know when we first start it wasn’t easy you know what I
Mean like there was a there was a you know a 5year period to where we’re getting shins checked and we’re done training you know you check you give me a hard check my shin hurts I’m done for the day might be done for the week cuz you’re getting all these micro fractures
In your shins think of like you see your windshield is all clear you take a rock you hit it and it spider webs out doesn’t break the windshield but it cracks it that’s essentially what we’re doing to our shins so when they grow back or they they repair stronger uh
There’s a lot of drills you can do by hitting [ __ ] off it I mean it’s miserable but you know fortunately I’m to a point right now that my shins are pretty conditioned I can kick people right in the leg I’m not it doesn’t feel good it never feels good uh but it’s
Tolerable to go 15 minutes so it’s it’s so the so uh what’s that junk CL vanam movie from back in the blood sport blood sport where he’s kicking the pine tree yeah yeah that’s a real thing I mean they do that in Thailand you know I look
At some have you been there Thailand I’ve been there I didn’t I didn’t fight or anything there I went to fukat uh danced around at some gyms I was more there just to hang out um check out any of the Lighty boys no didn’t didn’t
Didn’t get to party at all man I was so bummed I didn’t get to party I heard this place is incredible to party at and I didn’t party at all yeah it was uh I I do plan to go back and and and you know
Have a have a have a good time but I mean these guys are animals man you go to like tiger myay Tha or something they can kick steel rods and stuff they can break baseball bats they little fellas the ti guys as well aren they yeah real
Small yeah a lot of Australians go over there and train because they have where you can just like they have a ring in the middle of a bar and and you can put your name down like you do in karaoke right and get up there and kickbox yeah
Hell yeah get up there and kickbox i’ would love to do that and you know I went I went out to uh I think it’s called man I’m going to pronounce it wrong but it’s like Ramadan or Raman Stadium and I was drinking in the in in
The thing and I’m like you know what I want to get my ass whoop by one of these Tie fighters so I went to the back beer in hand I’m like hey sign me up but they didn’t have be my size not to mention that they’re uh their president or their
King their King just died like a week or two prior so they weren’t letting any International Fighters come over and compete so yeah I I I drew a bad straw there you try have you been to any other countries around the world yeah I went
To India for two months oh [ __ ] what was that like that was a real third world country and you know being an atheist going there I’m definitely an atheist coming back because the Third the things that you see in a real third world country that you and I won’t see in the
US I mean we see homeless people but we’re talking about families on the home we talking about people [ __ ] in the street pissing in the street you know begging going around with with no arms you know begging for Change and from my understanding it’s all the Beggars are
Run by a uh like gangs so what they’ll do is you you don’t have any family all right they’re going to kidnap you they’re going to chop your arm off and now you go beg for them because you’re more likely to give your money to a guy
With one arm than a guy with two arms and you go through and it’s it’s [ __ ] crazy and nasty and uh I I fought for the super Fight League out there the SFL uh they treated me really good the hard thing for me was nobody’s ever on time
Like if you’re me never like your trading is at 3:00 I mean the bus might pick you up at 6 p.m. it’s [ __ ] crazy that would piss me off I’m I’m I’m pedantic about time yeah yeah you would not you would not enjoy it um the the
The the traffic is miserable uh there’s no Lanes it’s just a wide open road and you just go yeah um so everyone is it’s just a mess I mean you’re running to each other and you just keep going so you’re an atheist you don’t believe in
God you don’t believe in the I don’t I don’t I actually uh when it comes to that kind of stuff you know in the last five six years dude I think that I think God is just an interpretation of alien beings that have come down from space
And I know some people can laugh at that and I don’t really care I mean you guys are talking about and no offense no it’s your op it’s your your opinion and you’re completely allowed to have it and voice it you know you talk about you
Know God coming down from the skies I really think that’s interpretation of aliens that have come from other galaxies or planets or stuff and you know as the government’s coming out talking about UFOs and all this crazy stuff and you know I I am I am down a
Loophole right now you know like people get I get people get sick of me talking about because I get so excited about it’s like in this we have a chance in our generation I tell my son this all the time we have a chance in our My Generation let alone definitely his
Generation that we are going to make contact with another civilization I I am so confident in it and here’s the other thing it’s like we’ve already made contact we just it just hasn’t been publicized I I I agree that we’re talking about we’re talking about advancements in in technology we’re
Talking about taking care of the world uh uh of of of fossil fuels and [ __ ] like that and you know I firmly believe that you know angels are representations of aliens gods are representations of aliens that have come down in the past the pyramids you know like man like you
Look at structures like this that happened thousands and thousands of years ago that just doesn’t make sense to our technology these days and I’m just open-minded about it and the the thing about being an atheist compared to a theist is right now you give me facts
I change my opinion now you know theists typically don’t have that they’re pretty s again my whole family is very religious and you know my uncle would probably be disappointed in me talking like this on a podcast right now but unfortunately know I respect his beliefs
And I hope he one day he respects mine as well yeah I mean I you know I saw this article the other day where back in I think the 50s they sent a coded message out into space and you saw the crop circle that came back I watched that
Episode last [ __ ] night First Time I Ever Saw for you to bring that up the very this is last night at midnight they sent that it was like a person on it there was the sun there was like all these different planets planets and they
Sent uh they sent the reply back yes yes but it was [ __ ] imprinted into the grass crop circle I can’t did you I just watched this last night first time i’ ever seen it and for you to bring it up right nowra because I literally just watched it maybe if it wasn’t yesterday
It was the day before yes and it just absolutely [ __ ] blew my mind yeah it was like 50 years apart too yeah that’s what I’m saying sent it to a Galaxy a cluster of stars and then 50 years later this I don’t know if it was this year
But in the last 10 years something got sent back yeah and and if I could kind of describe it to you guys that are that are listening and not watching just imagine like I don’t know like a a sheet of paper cut in half and then written on
The on the paper is like a little picture of a son a man a woman then maybe some stars and then maybe you a couple of squiggly lines or whatever it’s like an encoded kind of message and they sent it out into space and the
Reply came back but it came back in the form of a crop circle what the [ __ ] it that I can’t believe you’re CU again I watch this stuff every night and for me to just see this last night and it was very similar for you guys watching like
There what came back was the exact same form it was in a rectangle shape but the shapes on it were just a little bit different and they interpret that we sent off a picture of a human well they sent back an interpretation of an alien
Yes yes so yeah you saw the same episode I saw exactly the same one but just the intricate detail of the crop circle is what was just I’m just like and it’s huge it was hundreds of yards yeah hundreds of yards so that that’s my interpretation
Of uh religion so so you do believe there is a higher power you just don’t believe it to be Jesus Christ or God the Father no I do believe that Jesus probably did walk the earth and I believe that he probably did share a message but here’s the thing
If Jesus came now he’d be in a mental institute you know what I mean like if he showed up right now you go down to homeless you can go meet Jesus 25 times walking down Fremont Street everyone is this the sen again so how do we know
That he wasn’t a crazy guy or not I mean I don’t know man it’s just it’s I just there’s so many interpretations of what it could be what it is what we’d like it to be and what the evidence presents itself and I I can understand your point
Of view because you know over the last well in particularly the last three years well maybe the last five years since Jeremy Coral and um and Bob Lazar kind of have started releasing more of the footage that they’ve that they’ve been holding on Las Vegas local by the
Way way Bob Lazar Bob Lazar is and so and who’s the um I’m trying to think of his name right now he the news guy dude I’m on green green green Green I’m on his uh yeah what is his name I’m a part of his group on uh he has a contact
Alien uh oh yeah so you can go out there with the lasers and there [ __ ] I do that bro dude it’s it’s a it’s a Hu it’s a little I should say huge it’s a little community in Vegas there’s like 100 members in Vegas I haven’t Linked UP
Usually it’s I get stoned and it’s like I’m going to be in this group and Greer Greer is his last name Thomas Greer is it Thomas Greer he’s the yeah he’s the doctor with the glasses yes yes jued up I’m going to look him up right now yeah
Look him up right now I know his last name is GRE Dr Steven GRE Steven GRE yep 68 years old he’s I think he’s in uh Vegas as well guys if you don’t know who that is go and check out his stuff Steven Greer on Youtube it’ll blow your
Mind I even have a better one for you it’s on Hulu it’s the number one ranked documentary right now it’s called unacknowledged and if you haven’t seen it yet it is incredible it will blow your mind because what they do in this is they talk about a time in uh like
2010 where they brought all these high ranking officials uh in the government in the military and I was like ah these are probably fake so they said all right this is Lieutenant so and so here’s the name Google it boom boom well that guy is this and this and he’s out talking
About you know Trading technology with aliens and it’s a PL Project Blue Book and uh all these different uh uh black experiments that they’re doing like Bob Lazar talked about the reverse engineering ages ago back in the 80s and then people just thought and like that that component didn’t exist but I was
Just going to mention that that on the periodic table he’s like hey here’s a here’s a periodic element that doesn’t exist on the table everything thought he was crazy 20 years later it comes out the exact same element it’s on the periodic table now these guys know something or another and they’re trying
To really let the world down and I just as people we need to be open-minded to this and stop being so closed-minded and and just accept the fact that we’re not the only ones in this universe why do people have such a problem with believing that you know I I think it’s
Because of of fear and the the you know the stigma behind it is if you believe in this you believe in aliens none of the bad this is fake and if you believe this that you’re crazy you know and they come out like they come out with all
These Alien movies like Mars Attacks you remember like people from Mars come they kill everybody here’s the thing and love that movie dude it’s a great movie don’t get me wrong but here’s the thing we’re talking about in Galaxy traveling and if these guys are hostile they could just
Do this and we’re dead man yeah but they’re switching off nuclear silos uh when I think I read a story one got accidentally switched on but then it was switched off and there was aliens hanging and the theory is behind it is that they’re just looking out for us
Because they know how destructive we are look up how many nuclear missiles have been shot off into space it’s zero every time they’ve planned to do it something has come up to where it gets shut down every single time it’s never happened well I think the thing is is that that a
Nuclear Devastation or a nuclear war or whatever it may be on earth will not just affect Earth it will have ripple effect absolutely so this is why you and I are watching the exact same stuff man we are watching the same [ __ ] love it oh what do you do you believe in
Aliens mate I do yeah 100% how now what you’re like in your mid 20s right 28 so this has become more of a factor like when I was 28 it was still ah is it true is it not do you think that do you believe 10 more that God doesn’t exist
And it’s aliens or do you still hang on to your faith I think both can coexist I I I definitely respect the opinion of people not believing it you know sure um but yeah aliens 100% do exist yeah I mean I don’t know if really God exists I
Do believe that but I can’t prove it to you sitting here I we can literally prove to you that aliens have been here yeah you know so so what do you think it’s going to take for the world to uh to believe it do you think it’s going to
Take [ __ ] President Biden to go ladies and gentlemen welcome blah blah blah and then a [ __ ] comes out and gets on the M that’s the only way people are going to believe and even then they’re still going to think it’s fake I I think you know it’s and and they did a
Hoax on that I don’t remember if it was Roswell or what it was but like all right well we have the the the uh the guy in custody and they bring out an alien dressed in a costume in handcuffs so they’re they’re making a mockery of
It to to deter it yes exactly so I would love for an alien spaceship as just go land right on the White House lawn I mean you knew the stories in the 60s when they shoot Jo Biden that was a joke that was aoke he said that was know
You’re from a blue sorry so uh uh but you know I mean in the 60s I believe that there was you know document of aliens cruising over the White House lighting up I’m sure you’ve seen seen the seen the footage and all that stuff
So I mean I’m sold 100% man and you know honestly when it comes to religion and stuff and we talk about God and stuff you know it’s another thing I get asked lot is like okay well maybe a certain civil civil civilization out there is God and this and that well maybe but
Here’s the thing you’re talking about an all powerful being that can fix everything man we we’re looking when I went to the third world country we’re looking at Childhood cancer we’re looking at kids dying of starvation we’re looking at overpopulation we’re talking about people are these people in Africa are
Eating cookies this big and they’re made of mosquitoes and made of mud you know if there was an all powerful being and let’s say he walked in this room he’s like hey look I’m the all powerful being he does all this magic to prove it I was
Like I don’t want to hang around this guy anyways man like he could do so much more and he could go to Africa and and help all these kids or go cancer and stuff like that and you know that’s just and then you have to tell him how great
He is just to get to heaven I don’t want to go there I’d rather go hang out with the devil and where all my friends are going to be anyways so I don’t know I know some people are going to argue with that opinion not really like for me
Saying that but you know what it’s 2024 I’m outspoken if you got a problem with it I’m sorry I’m not trying to offend anybody yeah there’s too many snip fles out there so if you don’t like what he’s got to say you [ __ ] off hey 455 West sunet extreme Couture go down
There and sort it out who’s the hardest working MMA fighter that you’ve seen in that gym there’s no question about it Sean Strickland is the hard I was going to talk about that he is yes he is I mean he is outspoken he is Crash but I
Tell you what that guy shows up at the gym every day more than everybody he spars every single day if he says he’s training he’s training this guy works his ass off he deserves everything he gets again agree with him not agree with him like him don’t like him this guy
Deserves everything he gets he works his ass off every single day uh and you know more than everybody more than me you know I mean maybe early in my career you know I’d put up those numbers but I’m getting older I’m getting I get hurt
More now I got to watch my training he’s in there banging every single day working on his craft getting better did you see what he did to sneak on what did you think about that uh you know I saw and I was I thought it was a little much
But then I heard his why he did it and he made a whole video that was like a minute long of why he did it and he goes you have to understand I don’t come to your job and tell you that I can do your job when you get these civilians that
Are coming into an MMA gym they’re approaching Fighters talking about how they could do it if they wanted to they need to be taught a lesson to where no you can’t you know if if if I’m a race car driver and I’m oh you suck at race
Car driving and I come on a lap you’re going to lap me 25 times to show you how slow I am and he was putting an example like I don’t know the whole back story behind it it happened but he’s like all right dude like I and it’s happened you
Know in the gym even for me guys oh I can beat I remember this one guy comes here I’ll beat everybody here and Dennis Davis head coach is like Justin go with this guy and put it on him man there there’s a level of respect now if I sea
If I Spar Shawn he’s going to beat my ass but not like that not because he couldn’t because he has a mutual respect for me I’ve been in this grind I’ve been in the UFC I’ve been busting my ass to get to where I got to get this sneo
Guy’s never done anything he needs to be taught a lesson that you are not a fighter and I’m going to show you why you’re not and I really uh after he explained it that way I I really got behind him with that yeah I mean I tend
To agree with it um I saw sneo the next day and and I was like good job being there and he goes oh really look at my nose and his nose was all broke yeah yeah people were saying that I don’t think sea was trying to knock him out
Because if he wanted to knock him out he could have right he just wanted to put a bit of you know I asked him I was like why don’t you hit him in the body and he goes cuz I wanted to hurt his face I was
Like all right well that makes sense I guess he goes I wanted to really leave a mark there how’s his mindset after the whole drus fight I don’t think he gives a [ __ ] doesn’t give a [ __ ] does he no he just I mean he just genuinely loves to fight
Loves to compete I mean when he says that like he’s not phased by it you know he’s not the champion anymore he’s told me he told me that you know after he got the BT he brought it to the gym the next day and it it was in his yeah he threw
It in his closet something was broken on it it was something crazy like I don’t think Shawn really cares about the glory I genuinely thinks and and I know a lot of guys will just say oh I just like to fight let me tell you this I like to
Fight but if I could be the champ or have an opportunity to be the champ that would matter to me to him wins and losses I don’t think matter he just wants to fight the best in the world and that’s just what he loves to do just a
Different breed of man right yeah I mean he’s he’s he’s raw and everything he says is is genuine it’s not it’s not a show and you know what I’m going to I’m going to go outad on a limb here and say a lot of the things he says I actually
Tend to agree with sure but you’re but you might be afraid to say it out loud so when you see him say it out loud you’re like wow at least for me like there’s I’m not saying I agree with everything Sean says I might maybe one
Of everything he says I might agree with but he’s so outspoken about it I wouldn’t go on a public platform in front of millions and millions of people and voice my opinion like that yeah but once again he’s an adult man that’s an American citizen that you can say what
You want right isn’t there something called the First Amendment that’s absolutely freedom of spee freedom of speech and that’s one thing I commend Dana White for for really you know sticking to him they’re like how much are you going to let Shawn say and get away with Dana White says we’re in
America it’s freedom of speech he can say I’m not I’m not going to tell him what he can and cannot say we’re in America this is why this you know the country is great so I really appreciate you know Dana White you know stepping up and taking that approach instead of
Saying hey you can’t say this you can’t say that Shawn says what’s on his mind whether you like it or not that’s just who he is yeah I actually finally met Dana White uh last weekend um he was a great guy very nice I was watching him
Gamble with more anxiety than I can even tend to like I mean that’s that’s gambling $50,000 hands at a time yeah that’s gross it was like I honestly was and it was wasn’t my money and I’m sure that you know those big balls gamble like that but oh my god I’ve never seen
Anyone gamble like that and I was just how’d you do he did [ __ ] awesome he did real bad and then he did real awesome it all back sure yeah want it all back exactly W that’s [ __ ] crazy yeah yeah I mean I can’t even picture
That life you know I the most money I ever bet was 25 Grand and I bet it at one time and I lost a split decision and you bet it on yourself bet it on myself you know against Charles Rosa and uh you know when it went to split decision I
Heard Adel a bird scores this fight 30 to 27 I was like well there’s no way he won every round I mean I rocked him I had I took him down I had him in a side choke and she announced his name and I was just like it’s crazy adelay bird you
Know I don’t want to go off on a tangent about her but I think she’s crooked as hell man you know she’s judged two of my fights the first fight she judged in California I drop the guy with a left uppercut get on him I Guillotine him I
Finish the round in Mount she scores the round against me regardless if I even if I had lost three of those minutes those it was such dramatic finishing of the round I don’t think I did anyways and she scored it against me and then she did that with Charles Russ again it’s
She like I almost want to question her like do you have a vendetta against me did I do something wrong did did you say you want to why you you know I because I don’t want to ruffle any feathers you know she’s been she’s been accused of
Fixing fights in the past um in the boxing fights but how dare I do that with people’s lives it’s just it’s just crazy and again if if it was a close round it’s like all right cool but I dropped him bang he balls back I grab a
Guillotine I finish the round in Mount and you scored against me and I just don’t understand that you know and I tried to ask her after that fight and they kept me away from her because I was fired up I was pissed about it and then
Charles Ros as soon as I heard her name I was like there’s no way she’s going to give me this fight she scores at 3027 against me and I was just like every other judge or the other two judges on the panel at least had me winning one
Round and you score all three of them against me you’re cooked as [ __ ] I don’t [ __ ] so what would you have won 75 I’m trying to think I was like a plus 200 dog so I bet 25 Grand it was like 50 yeah it would have been 75 total [ __ ]
You must I mean I was sick I I had a boat lined up I had a boat that I I I I thought I was going to win the fight I was so confident that I already bought a boat like I had to call call the guy
Bought it from him say hey man something didn’t work out like this money was already spent you know and I was that confident I was just gleaming with confidence and when that decision you know came out and the worst part about it is you can see in the video like I’m
Sitting there waiting to get the name call and I’m sitting here like this and she goes Charles and I thought she said just and I was so I jump and I was like oh that hurt my belly really quick sorry that happens it happens that’s life man if that’s the worst
Thing that’s going to happen in my life I’m doing all right well the fact that you can keep soldering on through all this [ __ ] just says a lot about who you are man because [ __ ] hell how much can one man take yeah I mean you
Know we all have our own story dude it’s not I’m not trying to be more dramatic than anybody else I get it I get it we all have a story we all have to get through you know V valleys and you know we have to sometimes run through fire
Man and you know I just I just want to help everybody else get through those battles you know it’s like I said I’m not fighting anymore for money I realize there’s no money to be made in this sport I’m fighting to show everybody that you can wake up every morning
Continue to fight as long as you want to so you’ve given about a million to today which has been great um how I normally like to close off the podcast as I always like to ask my guests what their message is to people because sometimes it really helps um mate what’s your
Message my message is same thing I said on my postf fight interview guys just keep waking up in the morning keep persevering guys I know I sound like a broken record cuz you know it sounds so cliche per se but really waking up in the morning for me is sometimes the
Hardest battle man I I you know especially if I don’t have to train and you know when you’re in high school when you’re in college you have coaches harping on you you have to be a practice you have to be a practice as an MMA
Fighter you don’t have to go I can take a week off I can take two weeks off I take a year off nobody’s going to call me to check so for me my personal battle is genuinely waking up in the morning and trying to go to training and it’s
And I know a lot of Fighters struggle with that and you know people wake up like oh [ __ ] this job sucks why do I even go anymore just keep working make some goals and if you have a shitty job right now [ __ ] wake up make a goal of
Hey by this time next year I want a better job keep working up grinding that [ __ ] job and then when you’re done with that job go grind something else and try to you know make something happen like I’m sure your podcast didn’t start like this all Glam me you probably
Started behind a laptop you know talking to yourself yep like did you think you know how long it take I’m sure it didn’t happen overnight not didn’t and and you know that’s for for everybody you know I didn’t get to the UFC overnight it took
Me 13 years of getting my ass whipped I started fighting in 2007 I can get to the UFC till 2020 20120 man took 13 [ __ ] years of getting my ass whooped and being broke and I’m still [ __ ] broke but I’m still going to wake up in
The morning I’m still going to work my ass off because I wanted to show my son I want to show everybody else in the world that hey if this [ __ ] hillbilly bum you know can do it anybody can do it I mean there you go guys set it right
There um [ __ ] awesome conversation marus apprciate so good thank you very much for coming on bro I really appreciate it um I’m a fan but I’m even more of a fan now so thank you for being so open and uh it was a great conversation thank you Marcus I
Appreciate you having me guys I got to say it like this video thanks for coming back to the channel share it tell everybody leave a comment it helps with the algorithm we’re doing great on Spotify I’m just trying to build that YouTube up we’re killing it on social
Media follow the YouTube channel all right hey guys thanks for listening into another kickass conversation today I’m so grateful to be here this is Marcus Dean for the Marcus Dean show we’re out h
