Liverpool beat Chelsea 1-0 yesterday to win the Carabao Cup. talkSPORT’s Jim White, Simon Jordan and Martin O’Neill have their say!

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Uh just gone half 10 this Monday morning Simon’s with me so too is uh Martin Anil Martin we’re talking about portino uh pre-match what do you make of his comments pre-match for me uh pre-match on winning titles is that how you should be judged for me that’s not the way to

Judge a coaching staff it’s about being competitive and winning but there are too many factors that influence I think that victory in the game yesterday is not going to increase my popularity or the way the fans are going to see us what do you think of that surely had

Chelsea won it would have changed the way the fans see him and Chelsea I totally agree with you absolutely does because it gives you rest bite it gives you a a a trophy on the board and people will automatically think differently of you of course you feel as if now that’s

The first trophy you’re on your way and if defeat is exactly the opposite so whatever view uh the fans have of you as a manager that do definitely changes when you win but ten hag won it last year has it changed much for him oh there’s been a lot of things there’s

Been a lot of water under the bridge since then you know the I think that Manchester United probably fell uh with that that great surge towards the end of the season the winning The League Cup the position in the in the Champions League that things were really on the up

But if we’re talking in the immediacy now this is it you know this would have changed the opinion of a lot of Chelsea fans I think the unfairness of man united is that you are challenged by a very different set of judgment calls because you’re not you’re not in the

Business you’re not supposed to be in the business of man united of winning The League Cup you’re supposed to be in the business of winning the Premier League so tragically for anyone that steps into the Dugout of man united you carry this huge spect to it’s a bit like

Jacob Marley out of you know the Scrooge carrying all the ghosts and The Souls of the past you know he’s got all these championships at Ferguson and this Legacy of Manchester United so it’s a good question because it there was still the doubting Thomas’s me being one about

The end game for ten ha what he did was he he quietened it down for five minutes by being able to point to Trophies but with Manchester United it’s a different standard he will himself be talking about this but what pettino is doing there is almost straight out the oon

Soulard Playbook I mean what it’s about being competitive I mean it’s about winning it’s not about being competitive you have to be competitive in everything in life and do you think he really knows that but isn’t saying it well I think of course he probably does but it’s I mean

Again you have to give you have to give the benefit of the doubt to the language and the translation this not being his first language but you know he talks about clopp he talks about clubs arriving at Liverpool as if he’s not arrived at the right football club if

He’s not been given the right tools you know and I I think it’s weak but I I think this is probably the reasons why pochettino is all fur out no nickers he is a very good coach and will achieve you very good things but he will not win

You things the only thing he’s won is the French league which was won previously by Lil wow that’s strong though that is strong Simon is it fair Martin is is that is that fair I know you’re taking a sipp of your coffee I was going to go to the calls but is it

Fair well you have to get back to winning this is it Jim you know you’re you’re you’re at a football club that is expecting to win and I I take Simon’s point about Manchester United that they’re not really wiely interested in winning a League Cup you are to begin with and if that

Starts if that starts your career as a as a manager at that club careers don’t your tenure at a club well it’s a really great start and this would be terrific if Chelsea had been able to won this trophy because it does change a mindset Chang the mindset of players as well too

Yeah should should portino have been more in the front foot yesterday both post and uh pre-match you can give us your views on that 0371 7234 um I I was working for the efl yesterday but I was still wearing my talk sport hat and I was very very

Fortunate to be mixing with some of the Great and the good in the game at the end of the match Martin I think you’ll enjoy this so you Simon I mean when you look at it some of the the the the kids on show yesterday excelled for Liverpool

H kellerer as you rightly say Martin was one of them in goal Harvey Elliott Connor Bradley and then we saw B Bobby Clark um LS kumas jayen Dans Trey Nei and that was not lost on some of the great players from the past first Ian rush and next you’ll hear from John

Barnes but first Rush Oh it’s absolutely fantastic uh you know when you see um what the Chelsea players are there played so much with them and you look at five or six youngsters in that Liverpool team it was something something special today I think is that the first of four

Or I’m asking you too much well you may be asking a bit too much but at the end of the day the once you win once confidence gets stronger and stronger and when you look at the team that play today our main plays were not playing

Today so uh it just goes to show how how good Jurgen is now what he’s doing with these youngsters and they’re coming on and they they look they look just like normal top players I mean towards the ending it could have gone either way couldn’t it yeah I think the make m 1990

Minutes Chelsea had the better chances to tell you the truth but at the end day we kept pling on and look at our support there the support there was absolutely amazing I just feel like them youngsters now you know what how they must be feeling now is something really really

Special it just go to show how special Liverpool Football Club is do you old fellas like Russian dougl do you enjoy it oh we love it yeah that’s what it’s all about you know you can’t know you can’t buy it and that’s what it’s all about it’s something really special what

Jurgen klopp has done is absolutely amazing he’s like you talk about Bill shankley you know Bob py Kenny D y’s right up there with them as well John Barnes Liverpool Legend what did you make of that today incredible the thing about Liverpool is that of course the

Amount of players we had missing any thoughts of the substitutions we made and coming on but all of them you know this is what Liverpool have with the spirit and the determination there was a scrambling our goal mounts at times and he looked in Chelsea looked that could

Have scored a couple of goals but with the team that we had out there today full credit full credit to them because of course missing so many big players Chelsea had probably their strongest team out Ro our luck at times but it was a fantastic performance and that’s the

Spirit that yuron has brought no matter who plays it could be a youth team it could be a reserve team it could be anybody and they put in a proper proper spirited performance it was Sensational and you mentioned Jurgen I mean it’s a tall order John but I mean is that going

To be the first of four well of course there’s a long way to go um what we do know is that they’ll put in performances which would mean that coming the end of the season I remember a couple of years ago when you know we could have won for and we ended

Up winning two and people made up being disappointed but if we go all the way the wire to the last knockings of the season and we’re in contention to win all four I’ll be happy if we don’t probably a tall order to win four but

One down three to go and is it lovely seeing these kids come through today John does does it make you feel really optimistic about the future absolutely when you’re are going to announce he what’s going I mean last year we looked at Liverpool and and the age and the

Profile of the players you know the Jordan henness the James milers the fabino the farinos who were you know 30 31 32 and we wondered what the future would look like the players that he’s brought in not just the kids come through but looking at the young players

In gakpo and diis who’ve come through so any manager coming into Liverpool now would come into a club full of players with humility hunger the right correct attitude so a new manager is coming into a dream Club whoever it happens to be whoever it happens to be what a tall

Order he’s got John following clar it is because of course you you wonder about as we’ve seen in the past when a a new manager comes in the reaction of the players to the new manager having someone as iconic as uran klopp but I know the character of these players and

They have the respect of the football cl to give 100% to the new manager in the same way that they did to uran do you know who you’d like to see there I know who I would like to see but I’m keeping it close to my chest and that was that John Barnes

Knows who he would like to be in the Liverpool hot seat post clock but he’s keeping it close to his chest have have you got a notion Martin of who will be there no no idea who should they go for no idea to fit to fit the profile post clop

Well Jim I honestly I’ll plead the fifth in this one you genuinely don’t know it we we discussed this earlier about 15 minutes ago talking about uh should they should they appoint from within Simon made the point about the likes of uh Joe and people like this here Bob hazley

Coming after after Bill shankley had set up something so it was easy to follow and you also had the nucleus of a fantastic side uh throughout the 70s as well to so this is a different proposition somebody from outside will probably I I’m I’m sure that Liverpool

Will look to to to look to a quality manager from outside I mean Tom Warner came and went yesterday Simon thrilled with what he saw particularly with the youngsters will he and John W and the rest know now who’s go who who they are going for and know that they’re not

Going to stop until they get that person possibly I mean ultimately you would think that succession programming and thinking has been of their mindset since November they’ve known this since November the availability of other managers the the nature of the Beast you’re taking somebody out this Liverpool team club team is really

Shaped in the image of Yogen klopp um and he’s managed to cost the Rubicon and make his relationship with the fans and represent the town of Liverpool but the the player the playing style the personality the Outlook the disposition of the of the team is a direct reflection of the manager it has

Charisma it’s feral it’s Dynamic it’s energy it’s got all of the things I like to see football that’s why I like klopp as a manager now you’re going to find great difficulty in replicating that because there is only one yogan klopp not because I’m uising him putting him

Up on a pedestal but there is only one and his style is his style so there’s going to be a change I think the strength of Liverpool is they bought good players they’ve got a good motivation inside the team they’ve got a good outlook you’re seeing that by the

Young players come in and we’re all waxing lyrical about them whoever they get it’s a big appointment because this is this moment in time where like I used the example of of the slip they can’t afford to slip now they slipped when Steven Gerald slipped on the pitch in

2014 and the league was lost if they slip off the clock they can lose all of the platform they’ve built I don’t think they will I think they’ll make a sensible decision whether that’s shvy Alon Alonzo I I don’t think it’ll be people like Thomas tul um I think it’ll

Be someone that that galvanizes the club Thomas T’s record will give you some respect but he doesn’t Galvanize football clubs he divides them he creates division you’ve seen it at PSG you’ve seen it at Chelsea you’re now seeing it at Bayern Munich so Liverpool not looking for that they’re looking for

Someone to unite and not to divide and to build upon the platform because I imagine klopp will be wanting to see the team and the club that he rebuilt from the sort of the effect that Brendon Rogers had in his last season which was taking the club downwards yeah after

That good season in 1314 um and all that work will go to and I don’t think they’ll make that mistake there’s too much money involved too much thought process involved and they had they’ve had time to think about it and the only person that that that we will

Find out who is the right person is if Liverpool have done their job and their diligence to make sure that what they’re bringing in matches what they’ve got okay well how many more trophies will he land before he departs is is the magic fort seriously on um you can give us a

Call on that 0371 7234 and and where does this for you if you’re a Liverpool fan where does this rank yesterday when you saw the youngsters making you super proud on the picture Wembley where does is that rank if you followed Liverpool for years 0371 7234 and Chelsea don’t quite know where

To put you this morning did Chelsea choke or are there green Shoots for the owners to point to this morning will it get better is it bound to get better or did they choke yesterday as is being suggested in some quarters 0371 7234 Jim White and Simon Jordan Monday

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41 Comments

  1. TAKE AWAY FERGUSON MAN U HAVE 7 TITLES 1 EUROPEAN CUP. NOT THAT BIG OVER 100+ YEARS THEY HAS 1 MAN MAKE THEM WHAT THEY ARE TODAY. HE IS GONE

  2. Dont blame ghe coach entirely the players a are useless they are young too and can't hold they nerves enzo tryinv to backheel in a final n we ain't score yet 100 mill chelsea never belive in youths till now and the coach did not buy these youths fans are too quick to fire n hire

  3. Seen Chelsea destroy youths via they so called best coach Mourinho in Salah and Kdb and Chalobah and better coaches take them and believe in them and i lived to see them dominate the prem for years Chelsea deserve every lose that comes there way not a good side to do good football business

  4. Poch, the former Spurs manager and media darling whose team infamously finished third in a two-horse race.

  5. Mourinho won the League Cup. His 1st ๐Ÿ† with Chelsea. We saw what that turned into. This was a solid chance to raise the standard but with a manager, players, and board at ease of their long term project, there is no urgency to win because right now, all itโ€™s about is competing.

    โ€ฆBut that should be the lowest tier of the standard for any sport team/athlete, would be to go out there and compete.

    Some teams play to compete and see what happens (Wigan FA Cup winners but relegated that same year), some teams play to win. (City treble after multiple attempts)

    Chelsea showed its standards have lowered by being content with the โ€œcompeteโ€ product instead of the โ€œwinningโ€ product because it does not want to hurt the image more than itโ€™s already been through last season. It does not want to have the expectation that they are winning trophies (anytime soon at least). Which is insane for the investment that was placed.

    Imagine if it was โ€œโ€ฆ you win or you are gone.โ€ Poch would have had a different approach to the game, no doubt about it.

  6. Let Todd Boehly sack Mauricio Pochettino, pay him ยฃ50m compo, and bring back Graham Potter and Assistant Frank Lampard. He can then go out and spend another ยฃ950m on complete rubbish while Nicholas Jackson still leads attack. Embarrassing ๐Ÿ˜‚.

  7. Everyone talked about Xabi Alonso, and they have not appointed from within since1994 with Roy Evans. Steven Gerrard was being lined up when he was Under 18 boss, went to Rangers, and was later sacked by Aston Villa. The next manager will be like when theyappointed Brendan Rodgers in 2012.

  8. In the world of football, a tale is told,

    Of Pochettino, whose fate did unfold.

    From Spurs to PSG, and then to Chelsea's door,

    But some say he's prone to a "bottle job" encore.

    With talent and flair, his teams often shine,

    Yet when it truly matters, some say he declines.

    In crucial moments, pressure seems to mount,

    And victories slip away, leaving fans to count.

    At Spurs, he built a team of promise and might,

    But when trophies beckoned, they slipped out of sight.

    Then off to PSG, with stars galore,

    Yet Champions League glory remained just a lore.

    And now at Chelsea, another chance to prove,

    That he's not bound by the "bottle job" groove.

    He had a chance to silence all, at Carabao Cup's gate,

    But once more fell short, sealing his fate.

    Got schooled by Klopp, when academy stars rose,

    Pochettino's instruction, to settle for blows.

    Bottle mentality prevailed in the fray,

    playing for penalties was the narrative's sway.

    So let the matches play and the seasons unfurl,

    For in the beautiful game, twists and turns swirl.

    But until Pochettino silences the doubting throng,

    The tale of the "bottle job" will linger on.

  9. How things just work out Aston Villa went all out for him and he turned them down and villa got emery rest as they say is history

  10. Poch is not a good coach. There is a reason why Argentina FA has never even thought of him. Paris wasted their only season with working front 3 because of him. At most crucial moments, he makes a completely wrong decision which isn't even remotely logical.

  11. Funny how he gives Poch some slack for English not being his first language but NEVER gives that grace to ETH.

  12. They werenโ€™t 12 years old. They were 19-21
    Players get signed for ยฃยฃยฃยฃยฃMILLIONS at that age.
    So stop it.

  13. Poch failed in the champions league final in 2019. He failed to hold onto a 2-0 lead against Real madrid when he was at PSG and hes failed to win the Carabao cup. Seems to be a common theme here

  14. I don't want to hear youngsters, Chelseas starting line up was younger then Liverpools. here guys say anything to make Liverpools win better than it was. None of the Liverpool players that were out weren't injured. they were left out as they never played any part of the competition anyway

  15. Much ado about nothing – League Cup was never a priority for any EPL big team. What has changed? Because itโ€™s Chelsea that ๐Ÿ˜ก

  16. Poch always said random things before the cup finals he got Spurs too. Its because he's insecure, basically he doesn't have a winning mentality. He's not a bad manager if you want to build a team and get into Europe. But that's his glass ceiling.

  17. Pochettino is overrated who is a good top 10 manager. He is not top 6 quality manager. He will end up at a West Ham or a Leicester. Chelsea need get rid of him come end of the season.

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