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Impress your friends impress your boss impress your dog by Woodward Sports merch today what up dog Detroit let’s wake up woodwork I’m feeling great this morning man the energy the it’s it’s electric in the air right electric guys fing man you know what I’m going to say something I
Some might perceive it as the quiet part out loud but I don’t give a damn everybody already knows this but I’ve been a little bit koi about this I am happy as hell that Patrick Mahomes won another Super Bowl and the Kansas City Chiefs got three I know I’ll admit it I
Get it I first first choice is obviously the Lions but they were unfortunately did not make it they lost to the San Francisco 49ers in NFC Championship game so if they can’t win it why not Patrick Mahomes catch Tom Brady in terms of accolades both personal and team-wise
And end up as the Undisputed goat that is what I want if I can’t have a lion super but you know what hold on but that does that does bring up the question obviously people of you know fans of this show they were waiting to hear what
You had to say about the Chiefs wining the Super Bowl but more importantly your goat of goats Patrick Mahomes now look Tom Brady has accomplished things that no other quarterback in the history of the NFL has done Patrick Mahomes is well on his way and I keep hearing this
Debate about about Patrick Mahomes and Tom Brady I keep hearing people say that Tom Brady is still the goat but that Patrick Mahomes is the most talented quarterback they’ve ever seen Sam break this down for me is he the goat regardless of the accolades that Tom Brady has we’ve seen what Patrick
Mahomes has been able to do he just led the Chiefs to backto back oh yeah Super Bowl wins oh me you’re too happy about this all right so let me be I’m going to be fair believe it or not and a lot of people weren’t expecting this no Patrick
Mahomes is not the goat yet but he is the best we’ve ever seen what Patrick Mahomes has done in his first six seasons as a starter quite frankly has put together the greatest six year start to a career of any American team sport athlete in the history of American team
Sports in six seasons two MVPs three Super Bowl MVPs which is absurd and oh by the way I’ve got a couple of crazy stats for you about what Patrick Mahomes and this Chiefs team has accomplished Patrick Mahomes in six seasons as a starter has the same amount of Super
Bowl MVPs as Kon Manning Aaron Rogers and John Elway combined and oh by the way and this is a this is another thing that I think speaks to the organization of the Chiefs to Patrick Mahomes as a talent to Andy Reid as a coach and all of that the Kansas City Chiefs since
Trading Tyreek Hill which was supposed to be something that hurt the team because Tyreek Hill one of the greatest weapons in NFL history from the wide receiver position you could argue is the best wide receiver in the NFL right now the Chiefs have won two consecutive Super Bowls since then every single
Season that they have they have the Chiefs have completed since the Tyreek Hill trade has ended in a Super Bowl and a Super Bowl MVP for Patrick Mahomes and oh by the way Patrick Mahomes one of the thing that things that separates him is by the Numbers he is the greatest
Playoff quarterback on a per game basis ever because Patrick Mahomes and these are stats amongst players who have uh guys who have started at least 10 playoff games first in win percentage at 15 and three first in playoff yards per game when it when you when you account
For passing and rushing first in playoff touchdown interception ratio with an absolutely absurd 41 to8 touchdown interception ratio and 18 starts unbelievable first in playoff passer rating and first and playoff completion percentage and I’m not done one of the things about Petri Mahomes which makes him jordanes because I consider Patrick
Mahomes what he’s accomplished in his first six seasons similar to what Michael Jordan has accomplished after his first uh three repeat nobody eats in the Patrick Mahomes era absolutely nobody this San Francisco 49ers the 49ers this is a team that over the last 5 years has been one of the greatest
Franchises in the NFL 0 and2 versus the Chiefs in the Super Bowls last season Jaylen Herz in the mighty Philadelphia Eagles Jaylen Herz some people even said that he could have won MVP over Patrick Mahomes certainly if he wouldn’t have missed those couple of games they lose
The Super Bowl even though Herz plays relatively well he still has that fumble six and the eagles look like they’re they have an uncertain future the way they finished this season my goodness they look like they were in shambles yo stop why I’m pissed at Patrick Mahomes why you pissed at Patrick
Mahomes he’s hanging out with my girl up there man well I think he’s you know what T you know what tuss I respect what you’ve done with Minnie Mouse it is legendary but doesn’t pure Mahomes isn’t he worthy of carrying on the mantle I I get it I don’t want him
To cheat on his wife or anything like that but but but he’s he’s up there with with she just fite you T you know she she’s tapping that Minnie hey if Minnie Mouse is going to mess with me she got to mess with Patrick Mahomes hey but you’re but
Wouldn’t you be in great company at that point Terry Foster Patrick Mahomes if you guys are uh you know I’m not going to finish that because I could go I off rails I can go off you know what’s that matters the most to me what’s up ow
And2 vers Jared G oh let’s go let’s go and 0 and2 against Tom Brady oh big facts I think that puts Jared G right up there ahead of momes just below Tom Brady guys don’t rile up the slappies please don’t R because there are going
To be people in this chat that try to make that argument for real and I know that in some ways they’re trolling and and and whatnot I I even seen people on social media including our esteemed colleague Neil rule kind of say never forget the the Lions beat the Chiefs in
Week one of the NFL regular season and to me I just think at this point the lions are big boys and they shouldn’t be celebrating that kind of stuff it was a nice win at the time but the Kansas City Chiefs get the last laugh as does the
Kansas City Chiefs have gotten the last laugh against pretty much every team in the NFL at least over the Last 5 Years a couple like like you know the the Tampa Bay Bucks and the Cincinnati Bengals they did get them once that’s that’s all well and good but the Kansas City Chiefs
Are they’re the preeminent dynasty of the NFL right now they’re every bit as good as the 60s Packers the 70s Steelers the 80s 49ers the 9s Cowboys the 2000s patriots the 2010s patriots which is amazing in and of themselves right now it is the Kansas City Chiefs League it’s
Patrick mahomes’s world and we are all just living in it and I get it next season I hope that the Lions and the Chiefs meet up in the Super Bowl and the Lions win even though people don’t think so but this year that wasn’t an option so I’m happy about Patrick Mahomes sue
Me I’m not I’m not running from it anymore I’m not lying anymore show just look at here what’s more likely to happen what’s up uh they three peat Kansas City three peat shout Little Wayne or the Lions make the Super Bowl ooh that’s a great question I think you
Got to say chiefs three wow W I think the lions are prime for a Super Bowl run no I really do they are but I I think at this point with how the Kansas City Chiefs are right now you have to say chiefs 3 ft they’ve won on a two-p right
After they traded Tyreek Hill that’s in that’s unbelievable in and of itself and moving forward one of the things that I said about this particularly particular Kansas City Chiefs team which made them dangerous even when they didn’t look so great at times during the regular season
Is this is Andy Reid this is Patrick Mahomes this is Travis Kelce even though at times Travis Kelce looked washed not in the playoffs by the way and this is the best defense they’ve had in this era and the best running game that they’ve had in this era and a lot of their
Defensive players like Trent McDuffy in particular George caraus are young um Andy Reid seems to have some more tread left on the tire Isaiah Pacho is Young Travis Kelce he may come back he looked damn good in the playoffs and Patrick Mahomes is still in his prime and by
Numbers wise and at least by age wise could be entering his prime so for me you can’t count out the Kansas City Chiefs I would love to see a Chiefs Lions Super Bowl next year that would be one of the greatest days of my life how
Many I was going to say before you answer this man before you answer this question the chat wants to know how does flan and T feel with their mates cheating on them I’m not happy you know yeah t pissed hey man this is I know you know she’s next to Patrick from
Home you know they they did something last night she mixed him up with Kermit the Frog those Disney characters get around man those Disney characters oh that’s true yeah she now was Kermit the Frog is not a Disney character is he no not Kermit he’s Kermit the Frog
Yeah crossover huh I’m just glad that we have the uh the Patrick Mahomes to Minnie Mouse connection given the fact that you know everyone knows I’m a Mahomes Slappy and we got Terry Foster with his well-known escapades with with a with a Minnie Mouse sexcapades sex we are all about connecting wake up
Woodward to life and this is the perfect example of that I mean come on you cannot get any better than this right now that’s why we’re so fortunate to have t with us this morning you know another thing I got to tell Minnie Mouse
Saved my life oh really I was yeah I was at that apartment complex where she was staying and I was reading a book by a pond and she’s like dude you got to get away from there I’m like why she said you can’t read by water in Florida cuz
There’s alligators in I said D we in the the city they can’t be alligators in Orlando she said watch this and there was alligators in there alligators in Orlando is in plural wow alligators damn alligators so your life so you owe your life to Minnie Mouse yeah that’s amazing
Man that’s amazing BR her cuz I was just chilling there I didn’t think of anything of it and then and you had to repay her by uh spending at least one night we did that before then the next day she saved my life you must have put
It on her so good I’m this to live can I live can I live well brother what do you think is more likely man the Detroit Lions make the Super Bowl or Kansas City Chiefs three peat I’m going to go the Detroit Lions make the Super
Bowl uh for a similar point you said Patrick Mahomes is in his prime I think the Lions how many players on this team are entering their prime or aren’t even close to their Prime like without even addressing free agency in the draft these players are going to get better
This coaching staff is back they’re developing these young guys up I think the Lions are Going to make a splash next year so getting to the Super Bowl I’ll pick that over uh over the Chiefs winning the Super Bowl and who knows the Lions may be knocking them off like Ed
O’Neal said see here’s the problem fellas yeah um Patrick Mahomes is Michael Jordan right now he could be in the Super Bowl and the score be like two to nothing and there like five minutes left he’s going to lead his team to on a touchdown Drive uh to win the game or
Something it doesn’t matter what the score is he’s just making the plays when you need to make the plays to win mean it’s winning time with this dude you’re right though man as the game got closer to the uh to the finale to the Finish you just kind of saw this cool calm
Collecting this all game but then you saw this kind of locked in Persona towards the end of that game and it was just like you know if the 49ers do not keep their foot on the pedal if they don’t go out there and put up sevens Patrick Mahomes is going to gash their
Hearts and that’s exactly what he did like when that time was running down and I don’t I think any of us knew what the rules were we were like call the timeout call the time he was just cool he was calm it was a little bit of Moxy it was
A little bit of Savvy it was almost as if they knew we got the 49ers discombobulated they don’t even know what they’re playing right now walked up to that line and and and it was the right play at the right time to win a Super Bowl that’s Patrick Mahomes K I
Know you’re in there raring to uh talk about this know you know me uh no one Pride I love you I got to go with the Chiefs though Chiefs three p is definitely more possible at this Point than a lion Super Bowl run the lions are just not getting to this position we
Need to see how they’re going to respond to getting to such high you know achievements and then failing we we have to see how they rebound from this um we haven’t seen this yet from this organization but the Chiefs as long as you got Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes
You always got a puncher chance man and um as long as this organization stays somewhat together they’re probably going to lose some pieces but I expect them to be able to rebound and they’ll at least be in the conversation but I think a Chiefs three p is definitely more
Possible I I agree with that but the cool thing is that both of them can happen next season that’s true the Chiefs could win and the Lions could be there and I think that the reason why that is I know we’re going to talk about
That as we go further in this show we got some Brad Holmes topics we have uh the Detroit Lions they have the seventh most amount of cap space in the entire league they have the opportunity right now to go out there re not reload but to build on this Foundation that’s already
Already seen them just 20 minutes away from the Super Bowl I look at some of the other teams in NFC and I’m just like you know what obviously the 49ers are probably going to be the biggest threat but ultimately I believe that the Detroit Lions with everything they have in front of them
With Brad Holmes kind of leading his charge from the front office and personnel and with Dan Campbell leading his team uh from the coaching position and the consistency that they have I think that the Detroit Lions can definitely get there oh yeah and if they need to get some extra workouts in in
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Patience and you know what we got to go around the room this segment as well man hey it’s good to have our guy our brother flannel backman what’s Good Sam oh you know I’m uh I’m glad to be back on this on this day we’ve got the whole
Crew whole again and uh Freddy phelp 313 says something really funny in the chat Sam looking at momes delicious so I I I got to acknowledge that but I’m uh I’m happy to be uh back back in this spot uh broer how you feeling this morning yes I
Don’t know if you’re going to be able to see me but I’m here I’m here in spirit I’m going to be the voice of uh Morgan Freeman over over at everything so we’ll we’ll be uh we’ll be chiming in throughout the show while we figure out
This camera and we got the legend T in the building man so you guys already know it’s going to be a wild ride today yeah I don’t like to scold y’all but you know today is Fat Tuesday I paid $3.99 for those P something we going talk about and if
You’re brave enough I got punsky Vodka for the real men Let’s Go the real man here I’m drinking that yo and look and we got the boo boys it’s uh the legendary Duo right here here we got kg Detroit’s number one DFT Pi in the building hey and you hey you know what
JB smooth you are MVP here at Woodward sports but your hat game is unmatched too bro it’s unmatched you be playing look at that hopefully I have some more some more hats to show off you know I don’t get to wear these that often though you
Know yeah it’s it’s yo I might have to come uh hat shopping with you man hey eventually I got find a new hat for this one but just to go around uh we’re going to talk about this interesting tweet but before that and it’s on Dan Campbell
It’s a lot to unpack with this one a lot to unpack man from John forella got a pretty big platform as well across uh socials but kind of the headlines around uh Detroit we have Michigan verse Illinois tonight it’s a lot of games tonight man oh hey yeah I know that that
Makes you uh pretty happy we got the Red Wings and the Oilers as well this playoff chase continues for them and we will talk about the Red Wings a little later in this show and the Pistons and the Lakers as well this kind of new look
Pistons uh they look a little better but obviously the season is already lost right now the only thing they can really work on is uh I don’t know just stop flannel if I can find a driver to drive you to Illinois tonight get you free tickets to see Michigan Illinois would
You go no I would not go hard pant and and and here’s why because I went to the Michigan Iowa game a couple of Saturdays ago and I thought I would just have fun with my wife and Ann Arbor and just enjoy the game and
Kind of live off of the good vibes from the football national championship game but I found myself during the Michigan Iowa basketball game just getting upset bitter like F this team Iowa was perfect from the free throw line in that game and it’s just no matter what this team
Cannot just not make me mad so no I you will not be seeing me in Chrysler Center or at any of their away games the rest of the year I might consider I would maybe consider going to see them play against Michigan State on Saturday just because if Michigan were to win that
Game it would be kind of funny but they’re not going to win they suck they’re the worst team in power five still bro bro the only time I go see Michigan and Iowa this year is if Caitlyn Clark is in the building Fair that’s actually Fair the only way I go
See that crap she’s playing on on Thursday right Caitlyn Clark is playing Michigan in Iowa eight points away from breaking the alltime NCAA record and the sad thing she’s not coming to Michigan or Michigan State this year I know no that’s that’s she sold out so many
Arenas all around the country I would I would go I would go if she was at Michigan or Michigan State oh yeah she’s the best college basketball player in the country yeah I I agree with that I agree I didn’t say male or female best college basketball player hey period
Period crazy now who Hunter Dickinson hey no there will be no Hunter Dickinson slander in this room it might be I do not he was not that good man one he’s not that good but look we got to we got to break this one down here man we
Got New York Insider so I already care less about what he has to say but John John fella right he had this interesting tweet man we have to unpack this thing but the question is this where the Detroit Lions the best teams in the playoffs do you agree with this tweet if
Dan Campbell was a smarter head coach Detroit Lions would be super bowl champions right now they played the best in the playoffs 49ers and Chiefs both stunk in the Super Bowl Ravens were the best team in the regular season season lions were the best in the playoffs
Apparently with a non-smart head coach I don’t even understand it there is a lot to unpack here A whole lot flannel where do we start with this thing man all right let me let me just go Point by point with this one if Dan Campbell was a smarter head coach Detroit Lions would
Be super bowl champions right now I don’t necessarily agree with that although and this is something that a lot of people disagree with me on and I might create some some headways in the chat and in this room but I still think and this is just because it was brought
Up not trying to belabor the point forever that when the Lions were up 24 to 10 and they had that fourth and two at the 28 and had a chance for a uh 45 yard field goal that they should have attempted that and and took a 17-point
Lead because going on oh my goodness because um in Michael badgley’s career from third from between 40 to 50 yards he was 77% for his career but during his time with the Lions he was 9 of 11 and then two out of three from 50 plus and
He also had a 54 y the week before so I think that was the wrong move but at the same time I don’t want to blabber that as far as the Lions playing the best in the playoffs you absolutely can’t say that and here’s why because the Lions
They did win two home playoff games spectacular unbelievable accomplishments but they were the favorite in those games and then you can’t say that a team that gave up a 270 second half run against you was the best team in the playoffs and with and when it comes to
The Kansas City Chiefs because they were actually the best team in the playoffs people seem to forget about def defense because the Kansas City Chiefs defense in the playoffs only allowed 16 points per game they gave up seven to the Dolphins and 10 to the Ravens which were spectacular accomplishments in their own
Right and oh by the way Patrick Mahomes had a great playoff run and Travis Kelce had a great playoff run and to say the 49ers and the Chiefs both stunk in the playoffs I get it the first half was a little bit boring to some people but I
Also thought both defenses were were were pretty good it was relatively sloppy at some points but look at the second half that second half was damn exciting there were lead changes there were there was overtime there was pretty much everything that you could possibly want so you can’t say that they both
Stunk in the playoffs and as far as the Ravens being the best team in the regular season and the lines were the best team in the playoffs the Ravens would even say who gives a damn they failed in the playoffs they did what they always do with Lamar Jackson as
Their quarterback they they went out in the playoffs way quicker than they should have but I guess the one point that most people would care about here is were the Lions the best team in the playoffs absolutely not you have to say the Kansas City Chiefs just because the
Kansas City Chiefs if nothing else have a far superior defense and played that way in the playoffs and it was interesting because going into the playoffs a lot of people kind of counted out the Kansas City Chiefs but they beat the supposed best team from the regular
Season where I am encouraged is this one I I believe that the lions got to where they got to uh NFC Championship game 20 minutes away from the Super Bowl because of the type of coach that Dan Campbell is we’ve talked about this before the imprint and the identity that he is been
Able to give to this Detroit Lions team that’s the reason why they got as far as they did I would I would say I would say that they actually played above their talent level they played above their personnel level in this playoffs that’s what I would say about these Detroit
Here what I would say little Johnny you go to hell here’s the thing if my man catches the pass yeah dumbass Dan Campbell called a perfect play that worked yeah yeah yeah and that’s the thing I don’t know necessarily what this guy is looking at but when you just kind
Of parse this thing just line by line by line it gets to the point where you realize there’s a lot of people out there with a microphone who probably shouldn’t have it or a platform who probably shouldn’t have it hey maybe that’s us as well but at least we you
Know what people are they think the only reason the Lions lost is because Dan Campbell turned down a uh field goal no they got their asses kicked in the second half that counts yeah all everybody in Detroit wants to stop the game at Halftime so after they’re up by
14 they’re kicking their ass you got to play 60 Minutes they got roll 27 to nothing in the second half roll brother that’s tough man it’s it’s going to continue to be a tough thing to rehash and rehash and rehash but I think the most important thing is
That what got them in that San Francisco 49ers game is ultimately what led to some of their losses in the regular season some of their struggles and some of their comeback wins where we thought yo is this team going to pull out the victory against the Chicago Bears is
This team going to actually be able to pull off the victory against the Minnesota Vikings and it was that third quarter All Season that’s the one thing that the Detroit Lions if they want to be considered one of the best teams in the NFL and next year when they go into
The playoffs be considered that best team in the playoffs they have to fix that that third quarter the second half defense they kind of letting their foot off the off the pedal a little bit to try and Coast into a win sometimes that’s what it felt like to me I don’t
Know necessarily what was behind that type of um you know that strategy or whatnot bro you can’t smoke weed at halftime that’s the lesson learn unless you’re Kelvin I mean that man can what are your thoughts on it though brother I so after they lost this game I I forget
If it was the morning show if it was the Woodward nights I came out and I said it is Dan Campbell’s fault that they lost but has nothing to do with the the Mis calls or the uh the mistakes that people are saying he made it’s because of that
Third quarter that has been the problem with the Lions all season long so I put the responsibility on the head coach to try to figure out a solution that their offense or defense whoever starts out on the field comes out ready to play in that second half that’s the the locker
Room is all about the head coach and they’ve struggled all season long no and the the worst part was is you know that they struggled all season long the third quarter what has been an issue throughout the year but they chose to have their worst third quarter probably
One of their worst third quarters honestly in franchise history when they needed it the most and that does have something to do with coaching and I get it nobody was good the offense wasn’t wasn’t good that Josh Reynolds obviously had a couple of really big drops jir
Gibbs had a fumble the defense couldn’t stop a nose bleed up to that point once the uh once the train had sort of left the station and it looked like the 49ers and ultimately they did end up um blowing out the lions in the second half
So there is a lot to do with coaching on that and I would agree with that and but the one thing I will say and I again I get it I’m not trying to rehash this too much we talk about how on that fourth and two to Josh Reynolds that they
Called the perfect play and Josh Reynolds just dropped it that happens from from time to time we actually saw a fourth down that didn’t work and then people are also saying there’s no way in hell that Michael Badgley would have made that field goal to put him up by 17
Well we didn’t actually get a chance to see it I would have been confident in that I’m not saying that Dan Campbell coached a horrible game or cost them or anything like that it was a total team collapse in the third quarter but it was just it’s something that certainly can’t
Happen again and it does it is part of the story of the Detroit Lions I think this John fella guy actually probably just turned the game off at halftime because if he would have you could say the lions were the best team in the playoffs this year that first half was
Phenomenal that second half historically bad do you guys think that they get just far too conservative I see the chat talking about it far too conservative in the second half of these games I think they they’re reactionary so I think uh Ben Johnson he’s waiting to see what the
Defense has adjusted to or the adjustment that the defense makes and then he’s reacting to that versus going out and and scripting the first 10 plays of the second half or doing whatever Ben Johnson wants that offense to do uh we saw in the NFC championship game they
Stacked the box and tried to stop the run and Ben Johnson they started throwing the ball and as soon as they stopped connecting on first and second down and get to Third and long man there’s no stopping those 49ers that pass rush so that that’s why they they
Just didn’t have any rhythm coming out of the locker room you got to go establish what you want to do you know sometimes the Lions forget what BR what brought you there uh in the first half whenever they got into a jam when the ra against the Rams whenever they got into
A jam they went to St Brown third quarter against Z Francisco nothing yeah they they do a running play with Aman Ross St brown car play the hits what got you there and I think in the third quarter too often what worked in the first half they just
Ah [ __ ] it we’re not going to do it we can do anything we want and that’s not true no no and you know what it it’s something because we hear Dan Campbell and his rhetoric at times say we are the hunters we are the hunters we are the
Hunters you’re not going to have to go far to look for us we’ll be right on your front porch this is something that I hope that they change next year because the hunters they don’t become too conservative in the second half you continue to go out there and you
Continue to mul you make sure that your prey is dead and then dead again that’s what I want to see out of these Detroit L next season as they move into this kind of air where they believe that they’re about to go on a Super Bowl run
Like there are times that I’m like why are they going away from what works I just I just don’t understand I know what the numbers say I know what they’re trying to do in terms of running down the clock but if you have an offense that’s working why go against it and I
Know I get it the 49ers made some adjustments uh to start that third quarter it looked like the Detroit Lions were running up against a wall a brick wall but it seemed like they stopped doing things to get people like J involved Amar R Brown involved get out
To the corners where I just thought that they had the advantage speed wise talent-wise athleticism wise get outside to the corners get those linebackers spread out get their defensive line spread out so that then it gives you more that you can do when you do want to
Kind of go to that more conservative route to try and Ice the game away I think they just went to that too early in that game yeah I mean when you look at the first drive of the third quarter after the 49ers had gotten the field goal David Montgomery was running it
Relatively well at least with the carries that he was that he was given one of the other mistakes to me was on third and four they ran it with Aman R st Brown instead for some reason and a horrible play that’s the thing Terry you’re talking about getting Aman R st
Brown more involved in the second half I didn’t mean this way I throw him the ball throw him the ball like you I know you didn’t mean that way because if when you’ve got jir Gibbs in the back field who hadn’t fumbled yet who had converted a third and 12 with
With a run and had a 15 yard touchdown in the first half you give it to him or you give it to David Montgomery who I believe on that drive up to that point had given you three carries for 18 yards if either of them get the ball maybe
We’re not even talking about a fourth down maybe they convert a first down can Che up more clock and get the touchdown to put him ahead by 21 or maybe even chew up more clock and get a field goal a very very makeable field goal to put
Them up by 17 and of course we all know on that second Drive which was even worse they tried to run the ball they tried to reestablish it it’s just there was that jir Gibbs fumble disaster which looked like a disjointed play from the beginning and then at that point the
49ers were able to tie the game then ultimately take the lead and then the Lions I would say in some degree panicked and abandoned some of the things that they did best but as we always said before a lot of those plays worked even if Josh Reynolds catches
That third and 10 with the game tied maybe the Lions go down and score maybe they do write the ship and we’re having a whole different conversation it’s just so many things had to go wrong in that second half and I just think that that also is the story of the season and
Something that maybe this John fella guy didn’t take into account when saying the lions were the best team in the playoffs yeah and and one of the things I want to see this Detroit Lions team do differently on offense is play a little bit more like they did in the Chargers
Game like the first Packers game like the Oakland Raiders game that just looked like a team that could not be stopped on offense at all especially that Chargers game where you knew kind of going into that this could be something that was a high-scoring affair I know broer that’s what you picked for
That game as well the lions were going to go out and put points up you thought the defense will be a little bit better but as that year went on as the injuries kind of mounted and everything it turned into a situation where we realized if the Detroit Lions want to keep their
Foot on the pedal offensively they actually have the ability to go out there and do that that’s what I want to see next year I don’t care about what the numbers say I don’t care about what the play chart says that they’re supposed to do oh we’re up three scores
Let’s go to this set of play calling go out there and just do what works that’s all I want from them next year you’re talking about getting back to the Super Bowl and you got everybody out there writing checks right now that the team is going to have to cash next year
You’re saying we want to get to the Super Bowl we’re saying we want to win it go out there next year keep the the pedal to the metal man and absolutely house every defense that you come up against hey this is the they have the offense that is more than capable of
Doing that it wouldn’t shock me at all and this is another conversation for another day if the Lions compete for the best offense in the league next year given the coaching staff continuity all of the Big Wigs coming back that’s something that we would hope to but
That’s something we hop were hoping to see more of in the second half of that NFC Championship game because even though there’s always been question marks about this defense this year especially with uh in the later half in the later part of the Season giving up big performances to number one wide
Receivers that offense was something that really hadn’t had too many hiccups except in that second half cuz part of that 27 point Onslaught was a 27 zero run if that makes sense it makes sense it makes sense but look we talking about the improvements that the Detroit Lions
Can make to try and get back and obviously it’s going to take everything it’s going to take the Brad Holmes it’s going to take the coaching staff and it’s going to take the players all looking at uh and not being stubborn that’s one thing that I’ve absolutely
Loved about this team is that they’re not stubborn they’re not stuck in their ways they’re looking at how they can improve they’re looking at the mistakes that they might have made and one thing we got to talk about this in the next segment man one thing that I think can
Help them obviously is getting some help for Aiden Hutchinson a little bit of breaking news that uh popped off on socials uh Philadelphia Eagles Star Edge rusher Hassan reic has been granted per permission to explore a trade bring him home bring him home you know what we’ll
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Talking about trying to make sure that these Detroit Lions are not just a regular season team not just a cute playoff team but a team that can actually cash the checks that they are riding at the moment with their Super Bowl aspirations the coach is sent they
Will get back the players like Aman Rod St Brown are saying that they will win it and KJ you got the uh thean reic one we got to talk about this because I need the case for and against man would you like to see the Detroit Lions land
Hassan reic and obviously this is going to be a recurring theme as more and more players become available throughout the offseason especially at uh positions of need for the Detroit Lions obviously the defensive backfield a quarterback one is going to be one of the top needs I I
Actually want to see them go and bolster the Lineback uh linebacker room but we’ve been talking about Aiden Hutchinson needing some help man oh yeah you got to break this down for me man for and against all right so I will first give you the case for Hassan reick
And it’s quite simple he’s a hell of a football player he he’s damn good he’s had four consecutive double digit sack seasons and in theory I know everything is not always as perfect and seamless if you put Aiden Hutchinson and Hassan reck on the same defensive line it could be
The terror twins assuming that Hassan reic still has a lot of tread on the tire which he’s going to be 30 next season but that’s not ancient or anything like that I could see it creating situations where Aaron Glenn doesn’t have to send as many blitzes
Where uh guys like cam Sutton don’t have to be left on an island every single play which Brer I will give I will give him that he wasn’t always put in the best situations even though we’ve we’ve gone back and forth about him and I think Hassan reck I think he is that
Type of move where if you got him if you got him at a at a well he it would be a trait that no it’s okay if you put him next to next to Aiden Hutchinson it could be a hell of a dynamic duo and the
Lions do have a lot of cap space which we will talk about more in a later segment so this is something that the Lions could in theory get done so the main attraction to Hassan reck is that he’s just a hell of a football player and it fits a KN that the Lions
Certainly have that book and Edge rusher to uh Aiden Hutchinson there aren’t too many guys in the league you’d rather have in that situation than Hassan reik however in order to get Hassan reck as of right now the Lions would have to make a trade and this is kind of my
Going against and you look at Assan reck next season and the Lions could afford this by the way but it’s just a matter of how they want to allocate the cap space whether Hassan reck would be a priority he would cost his cap hit for next season is a little over $21 million
Which isn’t which isn’t cheap and don’t get me wrong Hassan reck certainly not not so much much this year but even last year’s hisan re reic is certainly worth that kind of money but you would also have to make a trade you’d also have to
Give things up in order to get a hisan reic what that is I don’t necessarily know but when and when you look at to when it comes to Edge rusher help for the Detroit Lions there are a lot of options in free agency you’ve got guys
Who are going to be expensive but were hella Elite last year like Josh Allen andal Hunter for example those are guys that probably would cost you a lot of money may even have a bigger contract going into next year than what you would have to resign Hassan reic for going
Into 2025 but still those are options in which you could just grab them free agent in free agency and also if you want a cheaper option with a younger player who maybe isn’t as heralded you could go after a guy like Bryce Huff who played on the Jets last year and had 10
Sacks and his average and his market value on spot track is listed as 9.2 million per year so I guess my overlying point with all of this is if Brad holes thinks that Hassan reck is the guy that can be the book end pass um Edge rusher to Aiden Hutchinson
And wants to make that trade I would certainly be all for it but there are a lot of options out there that may be more advantageous and more cost effective and wouldn’t cause the Lions to have to give up any assets because you know when it comes to the Lions and
Their assets particularly their draft picks I’m not sure if Brad Holmes wants to give any of those up because of how well he drafts yeah yeah I mean that’s a great Point as well to know that they can go into the draft and it’s start been proven and get impact players not
Just players that contribute but you’re talking about players that could be considered some at Sometimes the best on the field at their position you got Brian Branch you got Sam leapa you got jir Gibbs and you got Jack Campbell who I know we’re going to talk about a
Little bit later this week uh in terms of being one of those top breakout player candidates for the Detroit Lions I kind of want them to be able to utilize that cap space and utilize their draft picks more so than go out there and make a trade for a player even
Though I know it would be a huge impact for them and uh you know brother before I kick it over to you guys the phone lines are open 31355 26322 once again that phone number is 31355 26322 we got a pack show as well we’re going to be getting into the
Tigers next segment we have the red WIS in their playoff Chase on the docket and we got to talk about the Detroit Pistons post trade you got a lot of players who are actually saying that they are excited to be in Detroit crazy but Brer
Yes yeah you got to talk talk to me about this man what side of the fence do you uh sit on as it relates to potentially making a trade for an impact player this isn’t just someone who can just kind of help and chip in this is a
Player that would take the Detroit Lions defensive line to a absolutely Elite level and and and I’ve see people already in the chat saying you know who would you even double if something like that were to go down yeah that’s the key and so my opinion is that I’d rather I’d
Rather sign a free agent than make a trade for this impact player and I’ll Trust Brad Holmes if he decides to go after a son reck even a joey Bosa I’m not fan of those trades though it’s going to cost too much it’s going to cost draft Capital with the S reic Sam
Already told you it’s it’s almost a $22 million cap hit and he wants an extension after that uh or instead of that so there’s a lot of decisions to be made if you’re going to spend go after a free Ag and go after a denil hunter or Josh Allen who might get franchise
Tagged but go after one of those guys because at one of those pass rush positions whether it’s an edge or a defensive tackle which would be my pass rush my my uh defensive line Rush preference in terms of signing a player that helps everybody out like Sam said
It helps her secondary out it helps Aiden Hutchinson out who do you double so I’m sort of out of that camp I if I’m going to go big I want to go get danal Hunter like go do that I believe that they’re going to draft and develop that’s what the all these coaching
Hirings are are telling me going and get trell Williams to be the new defensive line coach going to get uh desay Townsen to be the new DBS coach that’s leading me to think Brad Holmes is still going to be building through the draft and using these coaches as the big signings
To draft and develop their young players that’s a key Point man that’s a really key point because because why go out there and get these position coaches why go out there and and we know how important it is to keep the consistency with Aaron Glenn with Ben Johnson and
They had some high moments in the season obviously there is a lot of room for improvement with both of these coordinators and Dan Campbell as the ultimate decision maker but kg man our resident ball no here man what side of the fence do you sit on with this thing
I totally agree with y’all and like normally if if a move like this were to be made and they did there wasn’t so much dep on the defensive line then okay I’d be like make the trade but I’m looking at that cap hit like you said 21
Million that’s just far too much and then they would have to give up some draft capital I would much rather Brad Holmes hold on to that draft Capital be able to build death and just go out in free agency and and get your player man
If you don’t spend you got the money go out there get your get your big time player and draft for def make sure you have people that are ready for next man up for when that season grind takes on and you’re going to need them I I would
Prefer to do it that way and and save some draft Capital dope dope and I know we’re going to talk uh in a couple segments as well about the Lions free agency and their approach and I got some questions I want to ask you guys about
Um but in our next segment we’re going to talk about the Detroit Tigers we’re going to talk about Colt Keith extension well we got our we got our Detroit uh Tigers beat Rider reporter in the building as well as our Detroit Lions it’s one in the same Mr Matt broer um
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Definitely talk about as much as we can all four of our Detroit sports teams especially a little bit later we got to talk about the next hopefully playoff team in Detroit the Red Wings but this segment is about the Detroit Tigers uh before I Before I Let You Go on this one
Man I got to let the chat know hit that like button to support the crew and the phone lines are open 31355 26322 Detroit Tigers flanos Sam oh yes so this is something that our our resident uh beat reporter for the Detroit Tigers Matt broer is very very
Excited about and has been sh got to talk all week and I’m glad that I I’m glad that I get the opportunity to tee this up to you so C Keith one of the top prospects in the Detroit Tigers organization the Tigers signed him to a contract and I want to hear your
Thoughts on it broer and what does this mean for the Tigers organization moving forward yeah so so this happened a couple weeks ago Colt Keith is a 22-year-old infield Prospect probably a second baseman that the Tigers decided to sign to a six-year $28.6 million deal before he stepped foot in the big
Leagues before he took one Big League at bat and I know that number sounds crazy to some people but what this contract just in general and we won’t get too deep into it but I just want to kind of run through some of the basics to to
Show how far this organization has come this is a a signal to them not only that the front office is in a good place making smart Savvy decisions but also betting on some of their younger players that they’re looking to build around so for the first three years with Cole
Keith not being up in The Bigs yet he’s he’s getting uh just under $5 million average per each year which is more money than most prospects at his age made going into the second half of the contract the final three years it will definitely if he performs to their
Expectation it will definitely be a team-friendly deal but what Colt Keith has at the end of it that benefits both the Tigers and cold Keith there are three straight years of Club options for over $10 million a piece so this could end up being a 9-year uh $56 million
Contract or sorry $66 million contract so this contract while that sounds like a lot of money could be a bargain if he turns in to the player that they want to see and that player could end up being like a Jeff Kent I Know Dan wood said in
The chat a couple days ago uh Jason kipness I could see that being kind of his floor but what this does this almost guarantees him a spot on the opening day roster and for a young player in the big leagues this takes all the pressure off about you know uh uh pressuring yourself
Or at bats getting off all the things he can out take the next six years not have to worry about going to arbitration not having to worry about you know all the extra I need a big con things that go around with needing a big contract uh uh
So he can just go and focus on getting better at the game of baseball so that’s just in its most basic form this is a deal that might seem like a lot of money to start but it is a smart decision for both the club and the player they’re
Building around all these young guys and col Keith is one of those that we’re going to see a lot coming up that’s the most interesting thing for me as well the Detroit Tigers not just kind of getting the young prospects and US hearing about oh they have this number
Prospect they have this many in the top 100 but it seems like they’re finally ready to move forward with these prospects leading the charge obviously the great uh Miguel Cabrera he kind of had his swan song last season and now this Detroit Tigers team moving forward
With the young guys how much Faith do you put in these guys being the right guys uh to kind of drive this Detroit Tigers team back into winning they did this before back in the Justin Verlander era and we know it started off a little rocky but those guys were the guys how
Much Faith do you have about these uh these prospects uh as they start to up on the big uh Big League field I I personally have a lot of faith but at the same time we don’t know yet a lot of these players still are connected to the
Alila era that whole scouting Department this is a brand new front office brand new scouting department they have new things that they’re looking to build in this organization from the bottom up starting with the new pitching coach and Chris feder the hitting coach they’re trying to operate this whole
Organization in a new way so I do really like the young players we’re talking Spencer Tolson Riley green now coming up J Young Cole Keith Jackson job Justin Henry Malloy there’s a a plethora of young players which allowed them to trade nick maton uh so I’m excited about
It and we’re going to see them they’re they’re going to be making they’re going to be playing a lot this year they went and signed a couple pitchers this off season but they brought in Mark Kan the Tigers did a veteran left fielder uh also a backup first baseman to come and
Help nurture some of these young guys so we’re going to see how they perform in spring training pitchers and catchers report tomorrow and we’re going to see next week once the hitters join they having full te scages but we’re going to see a lot of development out of this
Team I think they have the right guys in place but in terms of my faith in the future we got to see a little bit more about Scott Harris uh and greeny their new GM what they’re doing with this organization but but Sam to you this feels like they’re they’re they’re
Building it the right way right they drafted Max Clark they they’re reshaping their organization what do you have to say about either some of these young players or what these tigers are looking to do well when you saw last season for example you saw like guys like Spencer
Tolson and Riley green and Carri Carpenter they they all contributed greatly to this team in a variety of different ways they all had their issues like with Riley green it’s Health he’s never yet played a 100 games in a season we would love to see that happen and it
Seemed like both years he’s had a couple of fluky things happen to them you definitely don’t want to see that Spencer Tolson I love that he hit over 30 home runs I just like to see him pump that on base percentage and that Ops up
A little bit more maybe get the on base percentage to 330 or above and the Ops 800 with Carri Carpenter I think with him one of the and it’s not really fair to him is the the knock is that a he has problems staying healthy as well and B
He was never expected to be great so with Carrie Carpenter is it is it real is it a fugazi we shall see but this is a team that had 78 wins last year the Detroit Tigers this is a team whose Bullpen was pretty damn good for the
Most part this is a team that even though Matt Manning and Terk scoble didn’t play the whole year they both showed a lot of promise and so did ree Olsen at time times and you bring in Jack flare a guy who wasn’t good last year but at one time with the Cardinals
Was a legit Sai Young candidate but then you you look even deeper Colt Keith right now our guy we we started the segment about is the according to mlb.com is the number 22 Prospect in all of the Major League Baseball these are talking about Minor League prospects but
That the Tigers also have a guy who is even higher than him on that list in Max Clark at number 12 and I’ll tell you what that’s about what you want because Max Clark this guy his ceiling is being a superstar that’s that that’s the guy
That could maybe be the Superstar of the Tigers for the future but they also also have um who else Jackson job is the number 25th ranked Prospect in all of Major League Baseball and there was some question on whether or not they should have drafted him and what not and and
That that remains to be seen but he’s moving up the ranks he’s a pitcher and then jaay young is the 60th ranked so there is a lot of of Hope on what you saw last year with what could be coming down the pipeline in the future and to
Me and Brer I got to ask you this question because I like Tolson I like green I like Carpenter one thing I worry about a little bit is depth on the lineup oh by the way Mark Hanah underrated great signing he had a he had a 373 on base
Percentage last year and you know I like my Moneyball baseball that man gets on base he might not be able to do anything else I’m kidding by the way he can do a lot that’s they’re starting to build that’s why he’s the perfect signing I know you’re going to ask a question but
It’s not the sexy signing it’s not the uh big time third baseman or the top of the rotation pitcher it’s the right signing for this team at this time it’s a lot of a lot of the signs we’ve seen the Lions make they’re not the pieces
That are going to be a part of the team when they win a Super Bowl but they’re going to help these young guys get to that point yeah my my question though is with a guy like Colt Keith you said that you expect him to be on the opening day
Roster and a guy like Parker Meadows as well who who has a good shot at being on the opening day day roster you think you think so okay good so are those two type of guys along with the signing of Mark that can alleviate some of my fears
About the depth of this lineup not in the short term okay you know what we still got to think they’re they’re they’re kids they’re 22 years old and younger and in the in baseball especially as a hitter you just need reps you need at bats in the minor
Leagues or at the major leagues usually teams leave kids down in the minors uh to build the confidence up there are some uh incredible pitchers in the major leagues so that’s why they don’t usually bring them up to start the season they want them to build build some confidence
In the miners and develop certain things so I don’t know if it should it should give you that Faith off the bat but the fact that we’re going to see them and that this team is built around Moneyball type of guys like Max Clark he he has
The potential to be a superstar but what he does really well it’s it’s he’s got great plate discipline his his discipline in the strike zone is great we’re going to see guys getting on base and that’s the question with a guy like Tolson you said he doesn’t need to be a
325 hitter but if he’s only going to hit 250 we need 40 home runs out of him like there are things that these guys need to do to take a next step and I think they’re putting the right pieces around and we’re going to see how some of these
Young guys play even Andy Ian is kind of an underrated utility player he can play second he can play Third he hits left-handed pitchers really well they’re just putting all these pieces together and seeing what they got and for the Casual Tigers fan all these prospects in
The top 50 the top 25 this isn’t normal for the Tigers recently even with early draft picks that they’ve had over the last couple decades they have the number five ranked minor league system according to Baseball America that’s unique they’re building something special I think they can actually
Compete to win the AL Central but when we’re talking when we’re talking like real world series contention it’s going to be two to three years but they’re trying to build something sustainable like the Lions and and that’s where I was going to go you brought up the Lions
You brought up uh kind of how they get players that fit their system fit what they want to be as an identity and you talked about who’s putting it all together I know that a lot of people they have their concerns about Detroit Tigers ownership right now since you
Know rest in peace Mr illich is uh no longer around but I do believe that just as much as we praise the Detroit Lions front office do you believe that this Detroit Tigers battery you got Scott Harris you have Jeff Greenberg you have AJ hinch yes AJ think about that this is
A completely different era we talked about you know what alil was doing prior and they got a lot of high draft picks they they tried to make the correct signings they went out there and they they laid down some big bucks for some players that they thought would play
Some key positions but it didn’t really pan out and all of a sudden you kind of got this new battery uh within the kind of executive room the front office room and obviously AJ hinch on the field with these players man how excited are you about this team are they are they the
Right battery to kind of move this team into the Next Generation I think so I think so it feels right and we got to see it play out over the next uh 12 24 months but it has similar feelings maybe not the the the brother type relationship that Brad Holmes and Dan
Campbell have but it’s the type of relationship and philosophy that all seems to match what AJ hinch and Michael badar want to do with their hitters matches what Scott Harris and Jeff Greenberg the new GM want to do analytically and building this team to get on base to steal bases to be a
Little more active with their youth it just all seems to fit so i’ I’d almost caution everyone wants Chris illage to spend and I think there’s a time to do it I don’t know if now the time I don’t know if we want to go out and make a
Huge Splash we want some of these young guys to play going and get in a Matt Chapman a big time third baseman granted I wouldn’t say no to it but they’re looking to develop these guys so they have homegrown talent that are their starters of the future I’m excited about
The Tigers man yeah yeah I’m excited what’s good kji hey man he’s a Tigers guy oh yeah definitely man and the thing with alivila one thing I can say about him is he didn’t necessarily pick bad players his problem was development he never really developed the F system he
Made bad trades and and gave bad contracts um but looking forward greeny and and Scott Harris I think they are the right people they’re younger they have more analytical minds and they’re going to bring that and help raise these young players cuz we should have leaned
Into the youth movement a while ago um and just go full on in let the youth carry this and see where we’re at let’s see what we have um but I’m excited to see what what they do man um there’s going to be some growing pain so we have
To expect that but if Health you know uh you know willing that that Health they stay healthy I I think we can see a lot from this young group man I’m hoping so because in the summers in Detroit is there anything more promising than Detroit Tigers baseball is there
Anything good it’s it’s fun it changes everything they play every day so it’s like when they win and they things are good things are all good in Detroit well and one of the things that gives me hope for the future about the Tigers is that we’ve I mean we we’ve seen some results
On the field with AJ hinch as the manager and even with Scott Harris as the president of baseball operations I mean you saw how much they improved they improved in the season and as opposed to the previous year because I remember at the beginning of the year there was talk
About oh my God the tigers are going to win 50 games they’re going to be historically bad not so fast they were they were 78 win team which is pretty damn impressive for what for what they were expected to be but one of the things I look at when it comes to both
AJ hinch and Scott Harris is AJ hinch he was a World Series man World Series winning manager at one point during his career and I know there’s some taint attached to that but still the fact that hey pause but uh but it was uh the the
Tigers in a lot of ways if you want to look at it from this point of view we’re fortunate that an AJ hinch was able to fall into their lap and for two out of the three seasons the Tigers I think played above their talent obviously not
The year before but uh his first year and his in his third year and Scott Harris he was the general manager of that San Francisco Giants team I believe in 2021 that had the best record in all of baseball which was damn amazing in and of itself considering they were in
The same division as the Dodgers and the and the Giants were the team with the best record in all of baseball so these guys have track records uh and F the hitting coach Michael badar was a like a 27-year-old uh hitting coach for the Giants that year with Scott Harris
That’s where they have a relationship he then went to be the San Diego Padres uh hitting coach he was the youngest hitting coach in all of baseball and there all their hitting statistics moved up sorry to interrupt no that that’s it connects it all that’s a that’s a great
Point these are guys who have track records this isn’t th This was um I would say a targeted like getting a Scott Harris was targeted getting an AJ hinch was obviously uh something that you don’t turn down if you want to ignore some of the SC some of the
Scandal attached to him it’s it’s when you move on from a guy like alivo when you when you move on from a dead period with the uh with the Detroit Tigers with uh the corpse of Ron Gardenhire for example no disrespect to him but just just uh you want something fresh you
Want something with some some guys with track records that uh can move the tigers into the modern era of baseball and I’ll tell you what that first year at least with Harris and hinch together the results to me were pretty um exemplary at least with what they had to
Work with and and this year you might even get you might even see more hell you might get a full season of Riley green that would be a hell of a St let’s go it’s last thing real quick to kind of connect it to Dan Campbell and these
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Ask him about the Lions and how it feels around the city and Dan Campbell’s decisions and AJ hinch went into depth about he’s been in those situations where it’s game seven of the World Series he’s made the wrong decision game seven of the World Series he’s made the
Right so this is a very Savvy veteran coach who’s also a young guy and knows how to relate to these kids so I think the sky’s the limit for this team they got to have a good start though they got to come out of the game please oh my
Goodness I’m AJ hinch was in two game sevens right wow I didn’t even think about that one1 lost one so but that’s uh that’s an experience that an experience manager that you’re not going to usually get fall into your lap if you’re the the Detroit Tigers because in
Almost every single way the Tigers is certainly a downgrade over the Astros it’s just when it came to the Astros there was some uh I would say some dark clouds surrounding what they accomplished at least in the Springer yes hey who Matt broer once struck out in a collegiate baseball game that’s
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Back man what up though Detroit look at that all four sports teams represented if you’re really a Detroit sports fan then there’s no way that you’re hating on any of these teams even when they’re in the trenches man I’ve seen too many Detroit Lions fans this year talking
About no we never get off the bandwagon are you sure about that because we’re going to keep the receipts here we’re going to keep the receipts here we’re going to talk to Tigers we’re going to talk about hopefully Detroit’s next playoff team the Red Wings got to bring
Some type of playoff atmosphere to LCA we’re going to talk about the Pistons man they look like they’re really starting to turn things around but the kind of Kuda gr on wake up Woodward the Detroit Lions man Brad Holmes the Detroit Lions have the seventh most cap
Space in the NFL and they have the ability to go out there and I think either turn the offense even up a little bit more I I feel like during the Brad Holmes era they have moved to kind of turn this this uh offense into a more of
An elite unit even at times when people thought that they should go out there and make defensive picks or defensive signings people are crashed their heads when they went out there and got jir Gibbs Sam leapa and they wondered what is he doing when we know that the other
Side of the ball has needed some help but we saw how much this offense carried the team now I’m hoping it looks like here seventh 58.6 million in cap space I’m hoping that this team turns their eyes towards making the defensive side of the ball that much closer to being
Elite Sam you brought up something a little bit earlier in the show when you talked about the ability to go out there and potentially trade for a guy like kassan reic and what it would mean if the Detroit Lions got a player of his caliber on that defensive line and you
Talked about how it would it would release a lot of the stress that’s on that defensive backfield whether the talent is back there or not the schemes that they would be able to run knowing that they could get pressure without having to scheme up so many blitzes oh
Yeah which position of need do you think the Lions need to go after to move this team closer towards or what’s the strategy to move it closer towards matching the output of what the offense has done this year defensive backfield the defensive line or I continue for whatever reason to feel like our
Linebackers man I like Jack Campbell I like Alex anzalone I like how Derek Barnes looked as the season went on but sometimes I’m just like man if we had an absolute stud at linebacker man the whole complexity of this team changes but what are you feeling well if you’re
Going to go after any particular position and this is just my opinion based off of what’s out there and what the Lions need I would probably say Edge rusher if they’re going to make a move for a free agent or if they’re going to make a trade for Hassan reic which we
Already uh went over the pros and cons of earlier because when it comes to the edge rogger position when you really look at all who’s available you’ve it’s kind of a how do you want it situation where how do you want it how do you feel
Okay any who let me get get get back on track but uh you’ve got a guy like denil Hunter who’s coming off of a phenomenal year a Josh Allen for example or even a Brian Burns who uh whose sack numbers weren’t really there last year but he
Still played very very well who are going to be expensive options but they’re all relative ly establish some more than others particularly a guy like like denal Hunter they’re probably going to cost you more than 20 million per year but as we always say if you put any
One of those three guys on the same defensive line as Aiden Hutchinson I mean I’m salivating just thinking about it honestly because Aiden Hutchinson with that with a with a a bookend Edge rusher as talented as any one of those guys I think it would do wonders for
This defense I think that could even be the missing piece of a Super Bowl winning team given how much it would also benefit the corners in my opinion but also when it comes to Edge rushers you’ve got cheaper options like a Bryce Huff who I already mentioned who was a
10 set guy but might not cost you as much his uh his average annual value according to SM TR is 9.2 million a guy who’s going on into his second contract you you could also get a guy like Jonathan grenard who had a phenomenal year for the Houston Texans LED them in
Sachs while playing opposite Will Anderson his average annual value is somewhere around 13 million per year or you could even go with a guy who is a short-term option A guy who’s a Savvy veteran who knows how well he would fit in with a with Dan Campbell but like a
Jvon Clowney who had one of the best years of his career with the with the Baltimore Ravens last year hit his n and a half sack incentive and he’s going to be relatively cheap on probably a shortterm term deal but all of those guys could greatly help Aiden Hutchinson
On day one and some of them I think would be excellent values obviously I would love to see the Lions go after a corner as well but the Corner pool just isn’t as deep as the edge rusher pool you you’ve got some guys but there’s not
A whole lot of depth once you get past some of the big name guys and I would certainly love a guy like Jaylen Johnson or leria sne for example but there’s not a ton there after them so for those reasons based off of who is available based of the fact that there are
Expensive options there are cheap options there are trade options I would probably say that if I were to use this cap space my number one priority would were to be a book and Edge rusher rusher to put right opposite Aiden Hutchinson and have them just attack quarterbacks I
Like that man I like that and like again like you said earlier I think it helps um Aaron Glenn I think it helps the defensive unit overall to be able to kind of change up some things a little bit and when you do want to bring extra
Pressure with those blitzes I think it makes it that much more effective man uh last year we saw them kind of whiff on a lot of uh sacks potential sacks we saw them at sometimes over Pursuit and I believe that if you have more Savvy players along that defensive line not
Just guys that you think have the big talent but those guys who understand the nuances of the game it helps him just that much better but uh kg what’s good man what do you think is the strategy with this uh with this cap space hey and
Sam and spot on to me any defensive line position you should attack that in free agency um cuz if you look at interior D tackles too there’s a lot of options there as well um you got Christian Wilkins Justin matuk my personal favorite Leonard Williams um there’s a
Lot that you can do um on the edge or in the interior but if you get an interior lineman that not only helps Hutch but that also helps Al mcneel as well and um you got to get a veteran Corner that’s the other position that you absolutely
Have to address in in free agency get a veteran corner I’m looking at somebody like a uh Stefan Gilmore a veteran presence he won’t cost a lot of money but he can step right in he can easily help that that secondary and um also his brother plays here we all know that as
Well so it’ll be a good fit but um that’s a Dan Campbell type of guy and I feel like those would be great fits um if they choose not to get a edge rusher and uh free agency they can always look to the draft this uh draft looks to have
A a pretty deep pool of of solid Edge rushers so that’s how I would attack it but you can’t go wrong either way but it has to be a defensive line position and a veteran corner I’m in on the Danny G strategy in the chat although uh Brian
Burns isn’t my guy uh paying a defensive lineman paying an edge rush or a d tackle and drafting a quarterback is the route I would go draft the young athletic speed pay for the the man strength I do think they need to add a veteran quarterback also but maybe he’s
Not it’s not your lerus sne or it’s not your big spend of the off season I I I’d also attack whether you spend in fre agency or not I’d attack the draft with an edge rusher as well think of what having Aiden Hutchinson on the other
Side will do to a rookie whether you go whether you trade up and you go try to get Liu Liu out of out of Utah or Jared verse or or going up maybe they like chop Robinson whoever they target maybe you’re moving up to get an edge to put
Alongside Aiden yeah on top of a free agent signing but it all we know what their needs are at Le and maybe you want to throw linebacker in there but they got to go defensive line cornerback and add some depth to that offensive line and actually we’re going to talk about
It in another day but uh on Twitter I forget who it was uh Gibb season uh he reached out he had a mock draft that picked Xavier Legette in the first round I don’t know if you take a receiver in the first round but the conversation of
Going and getting a big play receiver a number one we’re going to have that conversation soon that’s a possibility but and you know what this cap space and knowing that the Detroit Lions have some players that they’re going to have to take care of over the coming years who
On this roster right now do you believe can take that leap forward to be able to help make this an easier process obviously I do believe you need to go and get somebody else for this defensive line but is there somebody already on the team that you believe can kind of
Make that next step God it’s so tough because when you draft as well as Brad Holmes has done one of the other priorities of allocating this cap space and future cap space is resigning your guys obviously you’re going to want to resign like an Aman Ross St Brown give
Him back up the brings truck OB a guy like pen Su as well a guy like Aiden Hutchinson and as you look forward into the future which this isn’t this year’s problems these aren’t even next year’s problems but a guy like leaport for example who may bu next year or the year
After be looked at as the Undisputed best tight end in the NFL you’re going to want to resign these guys they’re going to demand bigger contracts maybe not break the bake but bigger contracts given how great of players that they are so I guess when it comes to the
Defensive side of the ball Ali mcneel was a guy who made a huge leap going into this year from the year before Aiden Hutchinson even as a second-year leap guy while they’re still under rookie contracts could be absolutely huge maybe a Jack Campbell to uh help out your linebacker situation as a guy
That could take a big leap or Brian branch is another one that I think has just scratched the surface of what he could be that this year established his floor that he could be even more Elite at some of his at some of his traits so
A lot of the thing about Brad Holmes is that he’s never had this much cap space to work with but he’s been an elite drafter and he sprinkled in some cheaper free agents like David Montgomery and Graham Glascow for example that proved to be even more valuable than you could
Have ever imagined especially in the case of Graham Glascow with vti Miss the whole year so there’s many many ways in which this team is going to be improved we’ve never really seen Brad Holmes make a big time free agent free agent signing at least to this caliber so we we shall
See what he wants to do with this money it may not be what we want but Brad Holmes has earned that cart blot to be trusted by all play on Kool-Aid what would be your thoughts and I’m getting a striking suspicion this might happen if not for a long-term contract but they
They use jayen Reeves maen they start using him more on defenses maybe their cover linebacker we see another step up from Josh Pascal maybe we see some brck Martin I know your former co-host Jeff he was a big Pascal guy I love Josh Pascal too we just haven’t seen the
Consistency but I feel like in in that group you would have to bring Jaylen Rees mayen back but in that group there’s potential that that’s what’s been on my mind is how much of a developmental step forward can the players that’s already on this roster mate I I believe that
When Brad Holmes spoke at his press conference he talked and and I think he kind of tempered what to expect for free agency I know that a lot of us are going to have our eyes set on that that kind of star name that can bring a punch but
He talked about that they’re set up for longevity of success I think that that speaks directly to what they expect development wise out of the guys that they’ve drafted out of the guys that they’ve identified in free agency of years past to be able to take that next
Step to LEAP into aspect of stardom one of those guys I think you know when I do say the linebacker core I’m hoping they can get somebody that can absolutely make that that unit Elite maybe that guy is already Jack Campbell maybe this season has been kind of one where he’s
Learning and we saw as the year went on he became somebody that you could absolutely trust to be out there on the field to not just kind of uh you know wrap up make the big tackles drop back into coverage and whatnot I I think back
To that 49ers game and um I know that it was a completed pass but it just seems like in years past I think it was a Jawan Jennings catch when Brock party ran left through back across his right and it was he he covered it well I don’t
Think that there was much more that Jack Campbell could do and there plays like that that kind of show his athleticism his smarts because I saw him kind of take one step towards quarterback and then realize really quick let me get back here you know I’m hoping that they
Have the faith and that they have the keys kind of in place to make sure that the guys on this roster a lot of the guys that you mentioned BR can absolutely take a step forward and make it a easier process for Brad Holmes because then you’re talking about
Building up the depth of on the defensive end with whatever else he decides to do oh and I’m sure and I know we’ll get more into Jack Campbell on another day this week but but just a little bit of a preview here one thing that Jack Campbell pretty much did
Consistently well all year long and I don’t think it’s a coincidence that the Lions defense did this consistently good all year long was he was a pretty damn good run Defender all year long he had some struggles in coverage he had some struggles with uh I would say just
Knowing what was going on out there because as a young linebacker that’s a lot of responsibility to to undertake but pretty much the whole year Jack Campbell was a was a consistently good run Defender and uh it certainly helped the Lions defense so if he can clean
Some more things up going into next year maybe he is that uh potential Pro Bowl linebacker down the road and if he can ever develop into that man that draft class yes damn damn damn no but just absolutely and I I agree with your point on the linebacker I think they if they
Do add a linebacker it doesn’t have to necessarily be a pro bowl caliber linebacker but if they they can just add somebody solid to this room I feel like that’ll definitely complete uh the defense or at least in terms of linebacker um I’m looking for a coverage
Linebacker just point blank period um we have enough good run defending linebackers to to sustain but um if you can add one more coverage linebacker I feel like this room will be complete just like that safety room um that was pretty deep this year it’s awesome to
See that Brad Holmes is going to have all of this cap space and realistically with the way that he’s been able to identify Talent it’s not something where he absolutely has to go out there and try and make a splash for a player that can try and take this team to the next
Level they’re already for all intents and purposes at the next level and I I love the way that they were able to go and say you know what let’s take this offense and let’s make sure like we talked with the linebacker core just making it kind of yo this room is
Complete and they were able to do that in large Parts with the offense now he’s able to turn his attention towards the defense then this is after there were 20 minutes from a Super Bowl I thought that the defense was going to actually keep them from even being able to get into
The NFC championship game but they found a way to kind of Coach up beyond the Personnel they do have or that they don’t have and now find themselves in a pretty favorable position going into this for agency oh yeah and uh before we we we go to break Denver Blair because
It’s going to be brought up till the end of time flannel owes Monty an apology yes for the a millionth time I was I I was wrong David Montgomery was a big time upgrade over Jamal Williams I always said he was going to be an upgrade but I thought people were
Overhyping him a bit coming into the year but boy was I wrong David Montgomery had the best season of his career by a mile and that’s what be going behind the best offensive line in the league will help do for you when you’ve been in the uh Bears Purgatory
For all those years yes sir just pointing it out there and you know what you guys say look that call in number again 31355 26322 and definitely hit the like button for the chat man hit the like button for Brad Holmes as well like button for stev eer yeah for Steve you
Know what’s up next we got to talk about the playoff Chase for these Detroit Red Wings I’m excited about it man growing up Detroit Red Wings was a big big big part of my sports everything bro I was probably the only black kid in my neighborhood who had the you know the gold
Post had the gold post I had the hockey pads I had the rollerblades I had the NHL hockey stick man I had the tape around I I I had it all man and I was going out there we were playing like neighborhood leagues all summer all summer it was because of what those
Detroit Red Wings inspired not just as great players on the ice but a great team overall the whole entire culture man and being able to see Steve Eiserman being able to see Nick lrom being able to see Darren Mardi being able to see these guys go out there and hold that
Stanley Cup over their head it was inspiring for Detroit I I told the story before and I’m going to tell you guys again after the break about uh about the Detroit Red Wings in the impact man my first time going to Joe Lewis Arena as a
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Play man and you know before we get into this uh into this Detroit Red Wings topic I know FL you have some things to say my first experience with the Detroit Red Wings you know beyond just TV like my first time going to jolu Arena I
Believe I was in first grade I was six or seven years old my mom worked for one of the sponsors for ha um and she got tickets she used to take clients there and whatnot and I remember the first time I went I I didn’t she told me to
Dress warm I was like what I I was thinking of it like basketball games man you can go there in your jersey and whatnot she told me dress warm I didn’t listen to her we went to the arena right and on our way in at the old jolu arena
It was so crazy to just see the sea of red and white the closer we got people coming from all all over bro from the people moving down from the cars from the parking lots red and white everywhere going up the big steps man it’s a Memory that has stuck with me my
Entire life and one of the most exhilarating things in sports man that I’ve experienced live is when the Detroit Redwing scored and that horn goes off in the arena and just everybody’s going crazy yo I don’t know how you really replicate that man that feeling it and it locked me in it hooked
Me and for a solid like three championships man I was locked in locked in locked in man it was one of the most epic feelings of my life and now we have a chance with this Detroit Red Wings team with a kind of a new with a much
Different core led by the captain the captain hey Derek Jeter hey I don’t give is Captain Stevie Y is the captain I don’t care man New York he should have went to Michigan and stayed home that’s his own fault Steve Eiserman Steve Eiserman is my captain that’s my captain
Captain my captain and now he’s leading this Detroit Red Wings team forward man yes playoff chase you know what you’re talking about that horn that you’ve been hearing it a lot at LCA this year and you’re going to be hearing it more at LCA this year and you know where else
You’re going to be hearing it at LCA during the playoffs because that’s where the red rings would currently be if the season ended today and that is where I believe that they will be and you have to give Steve Eiserman a ton of credit for that this is the season where the uh
I would say the the iser plan has borne out some of the some some of some of the fruits of the labor dare I say for lack of a better tur I mean ever since ever since Steve Eiserman has been here he has drafted well with guys like Lucas
Raymond and mo cider for example L Lucas Raymond is having the best year of his career and he is leading the team in assist this year shout out on a team that has Alex driet and Dylan Lin which which is a hell of an accomplishment but
Also this season you’ve got a guy like Dylan Lin who’s having the best season of his life and and being a true onec I don’t know if that’s what he’s going to be when they’re going to ready to win cups but at the same time Dylan Lin can
Be a playoff number onec any day of the week at least on this team and the Detroit Red Wings what really has been impressive about how this season has gone is that going back to New Year’s Eve the Red Wings looked pretty dead in the water and there was a tough stretch
Of games coming up that the Red Wings were either going to make their season or they were going to tank and then pretty much go Into Obscurity to end the year but ever since then do you know the Detroit Red Wings record has been in
Their last 14 games what 10 2 and two they have completely turned their season around they have completely put themselves in Prime position to get a playoff birth and one of the reasons why and one of the thing that things that’s been so impressive with what Steve
Eiserman has done both in the previous off season and then in the middle of this season is he has completely revamped their offense with a with a bunch of great signings like Alex du Bret Allstar a guy who’s had who’s had 40 goals in a season twice he’s having a
Hell of a year although his goal but he’s also due for a hot streak because he’s not quite on Pace for 40 but if he gets like 30 or something the Red Wings are in the playoffs I would be more than happy with that but it’s not just him
Daniel sprong one of the under the radar signings has had is playing the best hockey of his career um go to spear the uh another one of the under the radar signings uh offensive defenseman he is having a hell of the Year scoring the puck I already mentioned Lucas Raymond
He’s developing Dylan Lin I get it on the defensive side of on defense the Red Wings still have some issues and some concerns but the goalie position has pretty much been solidified by Alex Lion at least for for this year he’s played so good he has played really
Well but I think the the worry with this team and I don’t even know if it’s worry they have had this great stretch 102 and two it which was punctuated by a hell of a comeback win against Vancouver this past Saturday at home which can really Kickstart things is that now they have
To go on the road on the west coast for four games they’ve got at Edmonton which is is going to be tough they’ve got at Vancouver which you know the Red Wings just beat Vancouver at home but going to Vancouver is going to be really really tough at Calgary and at Seattle and
Calgary and Seattle are not playoff teams as of right now so the key in these next four games with the Red Wings is that get four points I think if they if they’re able to get four points in this next stretch that they’re setting themsel themselves up really really well
For a playoff run moving forward and hell with some of the talent that the Red Wings have on this team especially uh the veteran Talent didn’t even mention them resigning Patrick Kane or or signing Patrick Kane mid year a Hall of Famer who has proved he’s had some
Shred on the tire this is a Red Wings team that could they win a playoff series anything anything can happen anything can happen in the in in the NHL playoffs so I guess the point with all of this is that the Red Wings are here they are going to be a playoff team
Unless if I mean I believe that it’s playoffs or Bust at this point that if they were to implode it’ be incredibly disappointing wait so you’re stamping that Red Wings are a playoff team we can go and buy the tickets as soon as they put them on absolutely the Red Wings are
The Detroit Red Wings are going to be a playoff team this year and if they’re not something will have gone incredibly wrong and there’s going to be have to be some questions asked and LCA will be rocking in a way that it has never been rocking before honestly I mean LCA seen
A lot of winning Sports been a de it it has it they had that one uh couple playoff games against the bucks for for for the for the Detroit Pistons that everybody knew they were going to lose but this is a Red Wings team that could
Go into a playoff series and have every bit of hope that they can win at least one and the NHL playoffs you know in the NHL playoffs eight seeds knocking down one seeds is not something that uh is as rare as I as uh NBA so anything can
Happen in the NHL playoffs and this Red Wings team they will be there with bells on yo I like that with conviction man with conviction the Detroit ril wings broer you’re over there just cheesing man I see I see you changed up the wardrobe oh yes there we go speaking of
Cheese one might say LCA is hot and ready for a playoff team seriously though but what I want to see out of a young team making a playoff run I want to see them string together a couple winning streaks and that could be two or three games it doesn’t need to be
Some long winning streak but you don’t want a young team entering I don’t want to say their Prime entering their their best play their best hockey to to get comfortable winning a game and then dropping one or losing two three in a row and letting this get away from them
When you have your shot now Now’s the Time to to keep your distance from those teams behind you really make that push whether it’s behind Alex lion or whether it’s riding that offense just keep that momentum going they got a big game coming up against Edmonton tonight I
Think they’ve won 25 of 30 that’s going to be tough uh so this is Conor McDavid it’s a big one tonight but this is what we want to see out of a young team and as excited as we are for this year they still got depth like they’re the Grand
Rapids Griffins the some of the young players they have coming up the future is bright too so this year maybe like the Tigers maybe like the Lions we see them make a run a year earlier than many expected and I I’ll say this broer that you talk about winning streaks I mean
102 and two is a hell of a stretch so they’ve already had experience doing that and they beat they went to Los Angeles and won who is a good team they won at home versus Los Angeles they won at Toronto they won at Florida they won
At home versus Tampa and at home versus Vegas and I didn’t even mention the uh the win that they just got against Vancouver so this is a team that can play with the big boys and with uh with with some of the signings in particular Alex dubret that Steve eer was able to
Bring into this team I mean that was the one that really changed everything I think that is uh that is one of the the pieces of proof that the Red Wings are for real this year that maybe they weren’t even they’re not even necessarily ahead of schedule that
They’re right where they should be that’s what happens when you would you bring in a star like Alex der Brink to help supplement a young star like Dylan Lin who has really benefited so question uh you say they guaranteed for the playoffs pretty much um do you think
They have enough to to make any noise in the playoffs once they do get in there I worry about the the Red Wings defensively that’s all because they can score with anybody they’re top five of the NHL in goals per per game and a lot of that has helped with Alex D brinkin
And and Patrick Kane and of course Dylan Lin and Lucas Raymond continuing to be very very good but defensively there are some strug there has been some struggles it’s not really that much better than it was last year I think it all depends on
If a guy like Alex lion can can be that hot goalie because that is a that is something that really carry a team deep into into a playoff run but I wouldn’t be shocked at all if the Red Wings won a series is is something just came into my
Mind and maybe this conversation isn’t for today but the the signing the addition of Alex De brinkin in the off season what it’s done for Dylan Lin who I thinks having his best season of his career leading this team that’s what we want to see when looking for a edge out
On the opposite side of Aiden Hutchinson just another player to come in and Elevate where they’re weak not to get into the lions again but that’s what du Brinks brought to this team and when you think about him Dylan Lin Patrick Kane leading your offense in the playoffs
Like you said it’s going to come down to the defense but with a A three-man three-man Team like that you never know man we’re not even talking about Mo cider and Lucas Freeman go this for yourong I know where you’re going with this Co you already saw it you
Already saw it just a fan right you said that they need help on the defense just the fan said we got to ask Sam do they need a dmac um well those those in the shout out Darren Mardi the goat you you know this just a fan because I
Know you’re smart that in the salary cap era it’s hard to carry a grind line at this point and for the record let me put this on record I never said that dmac didn’t contribute to those teams and I will well to those 97 98 teams and I
Will leave it at that leave it at that KOA moving on yeah hey look look we got to take a break real quick but next segment we’re definitely going to talk about the Detroit Pistons and after that that segment we have the most electrifying segment in sports entertainment what’s trending with JB
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Really good show it’s been packed we’ve covered almost all of our Detroit sports teams I I don’t know who said it he said hey are we’re going to cover the WNBA you know what if they give us back our Detroit shot our three-time Championship winning Detroit shot then we will talk
About them but right now we have to talk about a team that’s probably uh inferior to those Detroit shock and that’s Detroit Pistons that’s a little unfair I love about Detroit Pistons hey but the Detroit Pistons and I want to go to you Kool-Aid on this yes sir it looks like
At least from my humble opinion from somebody who observed the Pistons for a lot of the game playing with the lead at at at the Clippers who are one of the best teams in the NBA they they obviously didn’t end up pulling it off that I see some promise at least with
This uh bench unit highlighted by Simone fonio I’ve always been somewhat intrigued F Alfredo I’ve been I’ve been somewhat intrigued by Shake Milton just because I saw what he did in Philadelphia it just seemed like it never worked out in Minnesota and of course giving Marcus Sasser more minutes
And then obviously the most important thing is can Kaden Jaden Ivy play together is Jaylen Duran going to be that that that star Center can they be a trio that brings the Pistons into good time so is there anything that you’ve seen so far with this Pistons team that
Gives you hope and what do you expect the Pistons in these last couple of games going to Los Angeles going to Phoenix I know that’s tough before the allstar break but uh how are you feeling about the Pistons right now honestly a lot more optimistic than before the
Trades happened you know you look at this Detroit Pistons record since the trades have kind of gone down and they’ve strung together five or six wins over like the last 12 13 14 games and they’ve done it kind of looking the way that we had hoped they would entering
Into the season obviously the season is lost in terms of hitting that over and hitting some of these early season goals the preseason goals that they had in mind but when you look at them now finally starting to take a bet on their young players we talked about the Tigers
We talked about the Red Wings we talked about the Lions and just how important kind of getting it right with those young players and letting those guys lead the way it’s been important for these teams kind of taking the next step forward and for the Detroit Pistons is
Going to be more of the same and what I really like is the guys that they’re bringing in are guys who have contributed in other places Quinton Grimes he contributed with the New York Knicks um as a second-year player he was averaging 11 points and hitting about
39% % of his threes this year he kind of got into the doghouse a little bit and I’m looking forward to seeing him hit the court but this guy right here let’s s this back wall real quick man Simone fonio man this is the guy that intrigues
Me the most you talking about a six8 forward somebody who is already shown he went out there and got 20 points in that game and he played with fire man he played with fire he played with physicality he played with basketball smarts and it honestly looked like it
Made things much easier for players like K Cunningham and Jade iy over these next two games those are the two guys though that I’m really looking forward to seeing these guys get more chemistry these guys kind of find their roles a little bit more and I think we’re
Starting to see it it’s clear Jad and Ivy is a potent score yeah just Flatout potent score I saw a stat and I know stick he tagged me in it as well shout out to stick about Jade Ivy being one of our top 10 isolation scorers in the
NBA Jaden Ivy since he’s gotten the opportunity which is still I scratched my head about that how do you have a player of this caliber of talent and you don’t give him that opportunity to start the season and K Cunningham he’s kind of fitting more into that facilitation role
We I’ve talked about this since he’s been drafted he loves to do exactly what we saw in the last game he likes to get his teammates involved he likes to probe he likes to facilitate he likes to make sure and that’s why you need Shooters around him that’s why you need kind of
Smart and energetic players that can run the floor and these guys can play a little bit of Defense better than boan and Burks and even Kno to a degree and then towards the end of that game you saw him go from about 10 points to 20 points in the clutch when it mattered
They fell just a little bit short but I don’t think they were going to see that very much often uh especially when they play up against these teams that they’re more evenly matched with record-wise uh in the power rankings as well saw the Pistons move up from 30th to 28th on
ESPN hey you know what let’s go we take baby we take it we may scoff at that and and I think it it’s speaks to the Pistons overall and what the Last 5 Years had looked at that were celebrating that but at the same time this Pistons team remember when they
Were on that losing streak there was some uh I didn’t even know if they were going to win eight games the whole year but they they’re at they’re at eight right now and there’s definitely a lot of intrigue I mean you saw I mean think about this I don’t think this is
Something that we thought we were going to see in the game at Portland uh Jaylen Duren had a 2020 game 27 and 22 and Jaden Ivy shot Seven of seven from three in the same game that’s uh and a win and K Cunningham played in that played in
That game as well and played pretty pretty well and I really like I like what he can be as a facilitator with this uh with W with with this Trio and you mentioned something that I thought was interesting and I touched on it at the beginning if you would have told me
Not this season but the year before that the Pistons would have would have acquired Quinton Grimes and Shake mitt I’d be like yeah baby let’s go let’s go but unfortunately both of those players whether it’s Quinton Grimes on the Knicks or uh Shake Milton never really fitting into the rotation in min inota
Have both had down years I mean do you think we’re going to see that it reflects on who they are as players or just that maybe they weren’t in advantageous situations I don’t think that they were in advantageous situations and when you hear them speak from Evan fornier to Quinton Grimes
These guys are happier now to hear EV F say I’m just glad to be out of New York to hear Quinton Grimes in his he was talking to Media yesterday saying I’m so excited you have to understand this team is much younger it fits him a little bit
Better uh tibs more as we talk about Monty being a veteran coach a coach want a veteran team that guy tibs he completely had a lot of these young guys in the dogghouse this season and it really affected him and now you have Quinton Grimes coming to a team that’s
Really in his draft class that’s really around his age group and of course he was the backourt mate with Marcus saser on that Houston Squad man he’s happy he’s ecstatic to be here that to me is what you need for these young guys they have to wake up every day and have some
Type of op optimism and know that when they go out there to play it’s with a team that is ultimately looking out for them as well man and that hey you know what I’m optimistic about what this core can do now moving forward it’s about those guys I always thought it should
Have been about those guys obviously you want to get the right set of veterans around them but I don’t think it should be guys that go and take the ball out of Jay Navy’s hands out of K Cunningham’s hands out of jayen Duran’s hands I don’t
Want to see that at all and honestly I love Isaiah Stewart I’m hoping in the future he can be somebody that backs up jayen Duran but the offense has flowed since he’s kind of been uh injured it’s flowed really really nice I’m hoping that when he does come back to that
Starting lineup that is something that he fits more into uh and and honestly that this offense can continue to take the steps forward that we’ve seen him do Ah steu that’s that’s a big question mark Isaiah Stewart whether he fits on this team whether he’s somebody that uh
Can can can go at some point obviously he’s still here he stuck through the last round of the uh of of the trade deadline but I will say this and I know we we we we have to get to break but I’m more optimistic at this point in the
Season about the Pistons and I thought I would be at this point and don’t get me wrong things aren’t perfect but I’ll tell you what too I’m just happy that they got rid of Killian hay I mean that’s that’s the over overlying thing I’m happy with some of the guys that
They that they’ve brought in but getting rid of Killian Hayes getting rid of that uh of that dark cloud I think I think will show will pay off in dividends that maybe you wouldn’t even expect I’ll just say that yeah yeah and I hope I hope that he lands on his feet somewhere
Whether that’s in the NBA whether that’s overseas obviously you know we want to see him kind of we we it was time to move on yeah it was time to move on but ultimately I do hope that Killian Hayes lands in some situation that’s more favorable to him sometimes a change of
Scenery it is what’s needed but let’s take a break real quick I want to get back because I live for what’s trending with JB smoo I really do Squad cool going 5 minutes over delay call problem over we have no problem with overtime here we know the
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What we will not delay this any longer I have to te this up again the most electrifying segment in sports entertainment it’s what’s trending with JB smooth J Ro what’s going on fellas hey big shout out to T for bringing in the pis today just
Looking at one of them makes me want to have to go back to the gym again I’m just saying but I’m about to show you guys the most Detroit thing you will see today happy Fat Tuesday everybody and get your big ass down to the Lafayette
Ton I to get you a oh oh my God what it get is that is that called the heart attack it might be a heart attack but yeah it is a punki with a uh Cony dog I’ve seen these before combined I I don’t even know you got to go to the gym
Three times in one day after you eat that that’s that’s that American or Lafayette uh American I believe oh wow yeah it’s it says American diabetes I mean if it’s for you you know go for it and um I’d get you one but uh you’re probably going to be paying for
It a little bit later but anyway moving on tonight is actually a um a legendary Night last week they honored Kobe Bryant at the crypto.com arena tonight one of the most dominant Sinners ever to touch the hardwood will be honored and his jersey will be retired as the first or
Orando magic to retire Shaquille O’Neal’s Jersey that’s awesome wow that’s crazy I love this yeah JB people forget about Shaq on the Orlando Magic like he that’s where he was so dominant to start his career out of LSU we think of him as a Laker and maybe a maybe he
Celtics whatever his his his run was after that but man Shaq on the magic was dominant that P who they have by did they have Byron Scott too or was it it was another shooter well they had Nick Anderson Nick Anderson that’s what I’m thinking Scott Sky oh yeah Scott
Sky that was the guy y yeah old Horus Grant yeah you talking about that Shaq was in such great shape he was a physical specimen I mean he was throughout his entire career but what he was with the Orlando Magic it was just something completely different he always
Played with that mean streak and that nasty streak but some of the highlights that he had in that Orlando Magic Jersey are just classic to me man man yeah he’s he’s one that uh he’s going to get retired with the magic and if he hasn’t already should certainly get it retired
With the Los Angeles Lakers as well one of the one of the all-time greats it’s a shame it’s a shame that those uh Magic teams were never able to uh win a title and Penny Hardaway was was plagued with chronic knee problems and uh sha left
For greener pastures in LA but those are some of the most exciting highlights you’ll ever see Shaquille O’Neal Orlando break in the room yes shatter in the back and everything have the magic not retired anybody they’ve had T-Mac they’ve had a lot of good players come through there they could have retired hu
Turku for I mean how have they not retired anybody though I don’t understand that that is pretty crazy they I mean they’re a relatively new franchise and it it’s it’s weird because every because it happened with Dwight Howard as well he had a hell of a career with h with the
Magic people people people forget but just like Shaq when he had the opportunity to go to La well Shaq’s uh Sha La results were certainly better than Dwight Howards but nobody’s really stayed there for that long I mean even T-Mac he went to Houston he wasn’t in
Orlando for very long so I think that’s probably part of it just nobody really has any longevity with the magic yeah you know t-x longlasting Legacy man it’s finally great to move on to the second round of the playoffs yeah and then what happened 13 points in 11 seconds the
Detroit Pistons happened that’s what happened that’s what happened yeah he did have that he went on to Houston and had a great great great run I’ve got a Valentine’s Day story tomorrow that involves the Orlando Magic really I’m tellor oh yeah oh yeah I won’t tease it
Any more than that all right well I definitely be uh looking forward to that but lastly I got to leave you guys on this I know the Super Bowl was over but it still brings me joy watching all the 49er fans get Upset that’s expensive I know not this TV cuz Cur St donut can’t forget about this one this one’s brutal bro you got to get out get throw him out the house throw him out the house take his wallet before you do oh my God Jersey can’t wear in a
Jason T Jersey but man it still just brings me joy watching L of 49er fans just get upset but that’s it for what’s trending back to you guys that was electrifying today man as it always is what in the world well if if you’re our age and you’re a 49ers fan you don’t
Remember the 80s you don’t remember the even Steve Young era you know what you know is a lot of playoff heartbreaks so I think some of these 49ers fans have just have just had enough but I wonder at that second place it looked like it
Was a Super Bowl party I hope it was his own TV that he broke and not the host or something like that with the way he got picked up and was about to get thrown out that would be crazy if you about to get thrown out your own house I just
Jump to my TV though I just love seeing like the the the the dude with the Mahomes Jersey kind of go like let’s go let’s go then you see other guys go up to the TV like right just right out of nowhere like Eduardo saying that was his house his
TV I hope so doesn’t make it that much better but at least you don’t vandalize someone else’s proper has any sports moment in Detroit sports history ever got you guys that upset not that upset not that upset which one got you guys the most upset though Robert Robert Hy yeah definitely
Is up there I was going to say that too that was that was the one the Aaron Rogers hell Mar that kind of upset me most that one makes me mad you’re right the the Rogers hell Mary makes me mad bro and I get it the Pistons it it
Probably cost him a championship but it was like like we had just gotten one you’re taking probably the best team of that era to the brink in ‘ 05 but the Aaron Rogers one was just like are you kidding me right now yeah that was then
The way the announcers was hyping it up the whole time before Man play should have never even happened man nasty most Nelson Cru home runs in the playoffs just all of them oh whatever team he was on yeah obviously the uh the uh Big Poppy one at at at Boston where like the
Bullpen cop is doing this that H hey hey do your job there’s somebody in distress Tory Hunter’s in distress Tory Hunter’s in distress that to a legend man you’re not bitter I’m bit oh my God he ain’t bitter no hey Chuck bre said bird steals the ball her Nash the non
Pass interference against Dallas Chicago the Dallas game times 2 the Grand Slam you know what man Detroit fans are they’re they’re they’re queued in man what about you JB you said 05 oh yeah it had to be the the Robert Ory like that was the most heartbreaking thing ever to
Just sit there and watch over and over again and it it just sucks man I got one more Jim Joyce Gago that’s painful man I’m still upset about that to this day that one is painful man we’ve had some you know what Detroit sports fans man who’s more
Resilient than us seriously who’s more resilient nobody man but hey look chat I appreciate you guys for being here as always you guys are a very very very important part of this show I’m going to ask that before you guys take off today make sure you go and you hit that like
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This years Dallas game made me extremely pissed but nothing will ever top the Seattle game where the guy hit the ball out of the end zone and didn’t get called for it
Sam is Simple Jack…. iykyk
Good morning – I hope you enjoyed today's show!!!!
Why is everyone getting kicked off the show?
Great show today, nice that we can begin to speak on the other Detroit teams. As well as our beloved Lions of course.
Lions need to resign Houston and get one of the best DT in free agency!!! Also a very good CB (true #1) in free agency also!
Sam is just a very young man talking, he is fun on this show!
In todays NFL you have to coach up your young draft picks or you don't have a chance with the salary cap being what it is!!!
The Red Wings were the greatest show in Detroit for 25 years!!!
Great show! Props to the whole wake-up woodward gang
Ignore the haters… I don't hate Jeff Iafrate, Boomer or Lucas but they tried to use the Woodward brand to promote their own separate pod cast. I will not watch it. What they did was like adolescents kids trying to be sneaky then saying "what did I do"
I wish the crew that left well but even now they are crapping on what you guys do by going on other podcasts and bad mouthing WSN and pretending it doesn't affect those "friends" they left behind. Keep putting out good content and you will succeed!