The First Cut crew discusses Talor Gooch’s comments on a potential career grand slam for Rory McIlroy.
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Taylor said quote if Rory maroy goes and completes his career grand slam without some of the best players in the world there’s just going to be an aster it’s just the reality I think everybody wins whenever the major F Majors figure out a way to get the best players in the world
There end quote Kyle given your uh no proximity to to Mr gu I I’ll give you the floor first uh he’s been uh like you said a Tak Smith these past couple years this one throw it up on the resume as well one of his best Works potentially Mona Lisa so
To speak I guess uh when when you’re when you see this quote when you first heard it what uh what what were your what was your your instant reaction well F first of all the the Liv league is kind of the Oklahoma State uh professional League it kind of is
Kind of is with Chuck Chuck how uh Matthew wolf go Peter Yuan I mean there’s like five or uh chakara there’s like five or six guys that went to Oklahoma State um yeah I mean listen like it’s not uh it’s not a good look here’s I I’m
Actually G to zag a little bit on this Patrick probably go in a different I think that in a lot of ways um Taylor G is is correct like I I think he I think what he’s saying has some Merit but it’s like man present it in a worst way right
Present it in like the worst way you you feasibly can by like calling out a future Rory slam because I mean essentially just because you’re not there I mean what other meaningful live golfers are are not in the Masters it’s like gu and Varner I don’t know I mean Neiman’s
There now so you’ve got all these live guys that are there so you’re basically personally asteris sking Rory’s future slam which is just an insane like corner to be on right like that’s just an insane position but I think like you know it’s interesting if
You if you don’t want to use the oggr if you’re Taylor G like what do you what do you want to use okay do you want to use data golf well there’s a bunch of guys in the data golf top 50 or top 60 that
Are not in the Masters that are on the PGA tour right uh Taylor gu is 40th in data golf that’s he he’s a very good golfer but it’s not as if like the world is necessarily out to get you right I I just think it it just is such this like
Um yeah like mentality of like oh you know the world’s out to get us like you you you haven’t been you haven’t been relevant in M like there’s other ways to play your way into major CH walking Neeman went out and did it on the DP
World Tour in December right he went out and won the Australian Open like there’s there’s there’s paths to uh to do that but I I do think like I think at the at the end of the day like I actually have some sympathy for where guc is coming
From even if the presentation was horrific because I think that the majors do need to sort of say to themselves like hey how can we kind of be above the the fry with the PGA Tour live stuff and still have the best Fields possible which you know like the fields have
Never been perfect right dating back for the last hundred years you’ve never had like a perfect field there’s always going to be somebody that’s left out um but I I I am I do sort of sympathize with where he’s coming from even though I don’t agree at all with the statement
I hear you Kyle and I just want to point out a couple things first off I’ve talked with a couple of Masters champions who are not very happy at all that Neiman got an an invitation but that’s just by The Bu The Master is already doing that with the invitation
That they sent to Wako Neiman but as it pertains to Taylor over here I mean this is coming from a guy that compared a live golf event when it was at its infancy to the rider cup and is like The Vibes the same so you got to know hold
On we somewhat removed from reality over here yeah and then the way I see it I’m like look you have knowledge and you have wisdom knowledge is what you know wisdom is knowing when to say it and when not to say it and if you got a
Microphone in front of you I understand the clickbait of it I understand the fact that you’re trying to make a statement and stuff but just be wise in this situation and don’t go and say it in a place where it’s going to be it’s going to come out because the worst
Thing is going to happen now is if Rory does win The Masters then all of all of a sudden people are going to probably take on Taylor G so I don’t think he’s doing himself any favors whatsoever yeah and it’s Al it’s Al one of those things Mark
That you have to understand your stature and and the power that you do or don’t have like if Brooks kka went out and said like took this position I think it would be heard as like a legitimate thing because he’s a five-time major Champion Taylor G doesn’t have a top 12
In a major right and so like take reasonable positions based on the amount of of of of power that you’ve earned I mean yeah major Champions sh do and should have power and Taylor Co doesn’t have a top 10 in a major and I just think that
That’s uh it’s something that he needs to consider before before saying stuff like that think of bit before you open your mouth goly I made a choice and now I want you to change your rules based on my choice right it it doesn’t make any it doesn’t make any sense the major
Championships have had rules in place for hundreds of years uh and and there’s not really anywhere that says we’re going to do everything we can to get the best players in this field right it becomes arbitrary at some point if Taylor G didn’t leave to go play live
But left to go play basketball would he still be uh would he still be demanding a spot in the majors because he’s a he’s a he’s playing basketball now but he’s still a great golfer like like you’re not doing anything to meet up to the qualifications that they have so until
You do that don’t ask them to change because of a decision that you made that it doesn’t make any sense and and then the the other thing is on the aster there’s one time I remember where asteris have been brought up and it’s when Tiger Woods was out and ptri Haren
Was winning majors and you think about all the other situations where one guy that’s really what we’re talking about here one guy is left out of a major in the past it’s been due to injury Dustin Johnson in 2017 does Sergio Garcia get an arricks because DJ fell down the
Stairs no that was never brought up Rory mroy in 2015 misses the open at uh at St Andrews does Zack Johnson have an aster for for missing uh for winning in that Masters cuz Rory hurt himself playing soccer no it’s never brought up it’s been brought up one time when a guy who
Won has won 15 Majors now and won at a 30% clip through his career missed a couple of Majors he had also won I think like six of seven starts that year so it’s like a reasonable thing to bring up and still the consensus is no there’s
Not an aster so this is wrong on so many levels I think uh I agree with the the aster thing I thought you’re going to go in a completely different direction and go towards Mark’s one and done record uh not not the prior major championships hey I won that League last year I
Won when Greg goes the only time an asri has been brought up I was like oh he’s he’s going for it he’s going a one time I I I will say I do agree with uh Kyle from the perspective of gu is kind of a gunslinger when it comes to what’s on
His mind and for us who get to talk about the game get to analyze and and write about it I love it it’s awesome I wish more people were like it could he have come across a different way sure absolutely but it’s fine in my book and as for the major championship
Qualification you got to remember this is a guy who was in the US Open last year at first they changed the qualification and he and he said I’m not going through local sorry guys Sergio Garcia did it and he said I’m too good for it I don’t want to do it and he
Missed the US Open last year so there’s an asri on wendam Clark’s Victory as well and then finally back to the W Neeman point of him qualifying you got Dean burer who also qualified for the open David uh poge just qualified for the open with a win on the asan tour I
Believe as well so there are avenues for these guys to get in and these live golfers because they are good enough have been able to and I think one one final point it’s 2024 this major championship season 2019 Masters winner fiveyear exemption Patrick Reed is
Coming up and I just you know maybe he wins one this year maybe he doesn’t but in 2025 to Kyle’s point about Brooks If Patrick Reed was out of major championships given the uh you know perspective given what he has done on the major championship stage it is far
Different than someone like Taylor Taylor gu missing a major championship well that that’s a point that I was I think it’s he was 18 tiger was 19 but your point remains like it it ends in it ends in 25 and I think that’s what I was
Going to bring up is like this doesn’t seem like that big of a deal right now because you’re like whatever Taylor gu like you’re like Rory winning the Masters doesn’t I mean it it’s it’s laughable like Greg said that there would be an asteris next to it but I do
Think that there is some concern if the live PJ TR thing doesn’t get resolved that like okay what about when your DJs or your Bryson’s or people like that start falling out of majors and and and there’s not really like that that that is when it
Becomes more of a uh like a a real concern and that’s where I I look at at the majors and I’m like you guys don’t even need the odg are like use the data golf use use whatever system that you want to kind of be above The Fray I mean
I I think Taylor gu is one of the 50th 50 best players in the world and whether that means he should get an invite to the Masters I I don’t like I’m not I don’t run the Masters I don’t run the PGA Championship like they can invite who they want and I trust
That all those organ all those organizations are incentivized to have the best possible field right or to have the best possible that’s why they extended an invite to walking Neeman like I mean this literally just happened uh with a live golfer um so yeah I I just I have some I have some
Concern about the owgr as a determiner of like who actually the best players in the world are and I think that starts to more holes in that will be revealed as time goes on just one more thing uh Patrick um if you’ve been paying attention you would would have heard
Greg Norman doubling down on social media about the world ranking points and it seems like the narrative is coming out a and you know remember when live began we saw all in Sundry tweeting and coming out whenever they had a microphone in front of their face talking about how they were growing the
Game and they were doing this for golf and and it’s not about the money and and the official World Golf Ranking is a thing of the devil and it’s almost seems to me now that they’ve got Ram that there’s a renewed push and now they’re pulling off the Anthony Kim cou I mean
This is such a big one now now they all after the media again and they’re trying to make headlines and it just appears to me the Taylor G is a real company guy so obviously he’s getting a really nice deal from Greg and the piff and all that
Sort of thing and he’s just playing ball because he kind of has to because remember we’ve even seen John Ryan he’s let him in jacket going on all the shows describing why he’s done this stuff so I feel like this is company policy and Taylor G yes he’s a gunslinger but he’s
Just Towing the party line right now
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What a bunch of corrupt media snobs. Where did he include himself in that statement? He did not.
I think Rory is a poor example but the argument is sound. The OWGR is becoming not fit for purpose. Brooks was 118th in the world at the time of the 2023 masters 😂 and had he not won the PGA a month later, would this year have been his last year in all 4 majors in having 5 year exemption since winning 2019’s PGA?…assuming there isn’t a “play until you are 60th rule or something?”
The more top players LIV poach, the bigger the issue of OWGR not being relevant to the professional game.
Gooch is 100% correct. Rory talked sh1t about everyone who went to LIV in past 2 years, he is due some retaliation in a big way from LIV players.
Mark should keep the same energy for Rory, yes Gooch comparing LIV to Ryder Cup was inaccurate, but so was Rory when he said LIV was 'dead in the water' 2 years ago 🤣🤣 Spin baby spin
What a bunch of 🤡🤡🤡🤡. Works for corrupt MSM media just like the PGAT.
Copium laughs to manage the impending transition to being the new KFT. Hope it helps with the coping tho. Whenever your quiet moment is, know that your job is becoming obsolete or worth a whole lot less.
Rory said the same thing at Pebble
Niemann had to complain to get in and you guys dogged him for it…
LIV had 25 players in the 2021 Masters… 35 players in the British
Mark such a dumbass… company man for the pga tour right there. Says whatever they want
Is anybody aside from Gooch himself a glaring omission?
Gooch probably thinks the earth is flat as well….He's too lazy to go qualify…