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Would you say Victor hin wouldn’t be able to do this is that what you say so today’s golf lesson is with PJ tour winner and tour pro Greg Charmers this was filmed in Florida when I first got to meet Greg for the first time we do a

Podcast together with LC dagner and we used two bits of Technology together that is as on my knowledge has never been used before to show how we could change how a player this is a worldclass player swings the club by using gravity to help us the combination of the Zen

Swing stage and the swing catalyst dual Force plates and Dr Scott Linn’s knowledge here is unbelievably clever and smart and interesting and shows where lessons hopefully can go in the future you’re going to enjoy this is there anything that would be in your mind being fixed Greg with this

Club I I just want to see my ey play improveing General meaning there’s nothing specific you would say can you tell me why that happen is the right Miss still a thing so that yeah yes right miss the thing so is the right miss an overturn or is it a pull

Overturn yeah overturn I think one of the things we talked about was that lead knee position so when that gets going this way now you got to get it going back and that’s when you got to start going this way which I think drops the

Club to the inside a little too much so Greg can get his path coming a bit too much inside so up to 5° which is fine you can play with that but as he overturns some shots he feels safer swinging straighter when he swings straight to maybe even slightly out twin

He it’s a little fade which he quite likes so when we look at his horizontal Force I think about moving this way and this way it’s quite High where we want more of this Force going on so more torque value so getting him to feel that

He’s moving this way to hit the ball rather than this way is where the challenge is going to be so so in the past that is like I was I’ve been generating that move that you’ve talk to get the hip turn but I don’t need to do

That no so I years ago I used to be um I didn’t I didn’t lift the heel I only started doing that in an effort cuz I was getting older to get more out of that but I I can do a decent hip turn without necessarily having to go like

This right and as it turns out I go like that but I don’t know that I turn that much different or better anyway right here we go okay all right let’s just put our basic setup on here so we can see what you’re doing I mean so the first time we got on

Here you had tons of horizontal Force yeah so that’s this one right here yeah so that’s you pushing kind of with your Trail side away from the target going towards um but you and you also had a massive pressure shift you were like 90% into your Trail side previous was yeah

So now it’s only 78 which I think is good um but but I still would like to see this come down a little bit cuz generally this big horizontal force is what creates more of an inout path okay so explain that to me cuz so I cuz I don’t

Understand what I’m looking at here on the right right cuz I’m a Gumby so basically what are you say tell me what you mean by you want to see a change in that you want to see less in the pressure in the trail side uh not pressure I think the pressure is fine

It’s less cuz that last one you said you felt you had a good push off the trail side little bit um and you had a ton like that’s well into the tour average and this is the tour average with driver so you’re having a lot of Trailside push

All right to create that not a lot of this rotational force and I think the whole thing with the Inside Out path and the over hooks or block misses just come from a little too much of this and not enough of this so we got to teach you to

Create more rotational forces and that would explain why like I sent a video to my coach uh two days ago and the hips like nowhere near open enough right so and I and that’s how I feel I feel like I I am um I I have to have perfect Club

Face control through the ball basically because I can’t just I’m not turning yeah right okay and then I think that so when you get pushing two lateral and the arms drop in here now there’s a lot of timing of Club face so if you don’t time

It you block it if you hook it and if you get it perfect good shot okay whereas if you get more rotational through it then the hands can probably be a little quieter um let’s just see what the Yeah 52 inside out that’s five inside out five inside out okay the

First one was actually three so I mean five Inside Out is a lot of path yeah yeah you’re going to have to turn that right right and so with a seven on yeah okay they’re timed well so this is your Lead Foot Right Here Y and how much it is pushing towards the

Golf ball yeah cuz the more it pushes towards the golf ball the more this hip clears back yep and this is your Trail side and how much it’s pulling back away from the golf ball y the more you pull back away from the golf ball with this

Foot the more the trail hip shoves towards the golf ball right and so you can see you have 19% of your body weight in trail foot Force yeah so that means there’s 19% Force shoving your Trail hip towards the ball you have 24 out of the lead side shoving your lead hip away

From the ball and so the difference between these is 5% that gives you a 5% Force getting your pelvis moving back away from the ball to give you space for your hands and arms not a lot right uh last Monday we had Victor hoblin in here

M and he was 42 and 21 so he has a 21% Force shoving his pelvis away and creating space ni next time he comes in what I want you to say hey last week we had Greg Charmers in can we work towards that okay so now give me like get in

Posture mhm give me like a back swing move with your lower body okay now give me my old what’s that my old one or what we’re trying to we’re trying to get whatever you want to do we’re trying to get Theo y okay there now give me a down swing move with your

Lower body oh see how easy it is for me to pull you over yeah that’s not good no oh so don’t let me pull you so clear that hip get going through it there you go oh yeah I shouldn’t be able to pull you over like Victor hland is a much

Smaller human than you and I was like reefing on this thing and he was like pulling me over yeah so um he might be better at this than me that way yeah good oh wow keep going keep turning there you go good athlete I pulled way harder that

Time than the first time and I didn’t knock you over pause right there good athlete Mar did you get that you got that oh that’s interesting there you go oh that’s so yeah I can’t if I go that way oh you got no chance I can pull

You over easily and it takes you time then to get that foot back yeah or the knee back to where you can push there you go yeah okay oh well that’s interesting somewhat smoother see how this has got all these little blips in it yeah so that kind of

Tells me that that’s probably good for you see how smooth these are now yeah yeah and look at the horizontal Force came down out of the tour average the path the path went to 1.4 did you think about changing club path then no not at

All and the interesting to me it felt it felt like post impact I was exiting around way more yeah right rather than and you did it by pushing rather than by yeah changing yeah then trying to just whip and I think that’s where like I used to see people with that would try

To do this with uh with pressure only and they would get here and they’d get in their heel like get in your heel and they’re like and then it’s like over here in white be where you got to like push so hard that you end up in your

Heel that was that was it I I the thing I was focused on just I was focused on okay let’s not go that way right let’s just turn the hips but keep that relatively in like towards the ball and then just feel P push out of that y leite foot oh that’s

Interesting that’s nice yeah not even close yeah roll over that front foot you just you do finish R over I do yeah and that went back to fourward path so that feeling was not a good one whatever it was can we put the stage downhill live for him

So we’ve moved the stage now the Zend stage you’ll see is he’s hitting off a downhill lie basically ball below his feet I’ll come down and get the balls Mark you don’t have to get them for me don’t worry about it used to someone feeding them in people people doing

Things for me what’s great about the system we’re on we’re on Dual Force plate so we can look at both feet and see how the balance and how he’s pushing this way and this way is actually working and what we see with Greg is it’s actually quite even where Scott

Says when he looks at like Victor holand players who are better at maybe creating more talk they’re creating lots more out of that lead foot so trying to basically load that lead foot to get out of it is where we might shift the needle with Greg so the one shot is absolutely move

The needle in him pushing towards where gravity is basically pushing yeah 31 and 16 like I’ve never seen and look at the horizontals come down so like to me this is a great drill right sloping L just you now the question I wasn’t really trying

To do much no I know the question is if he hits 5 to 10 and then we flatten it again does it stay I don’t know the answer to that it just wants to go straight or left that’s awesome yeah oh totally different ball flight isn’t it oh yeah I love

That 33 and 17 so it’s 31 now it’s 33 so I’m becoming more the other ones come down yeah yeah rotational rather and out of the lead side too which is what we want the timing of it all good yeah it looks really good would you say Victor hin

Wouldn’t be able to do this is that what you say can we like about a million of those so you just got to figure out where the slopes are on the fairways and drive it there it’s interesting it’s um it’s definitely coming it’s going to come down to my ability to feel that

Pressure yeah how I do not quite as good not quite as good 2722 so you regressed and that went back up to your normal and this went back to 37 yeah wait let me just do let me give me one more there then oh that was inside I can feel the

Difference massively like I feel more that way rather than that way yeah what the green stage is doing is it’s making you feel extreme it’s extreme yeah so again like my point earlier when we put you on the flat you just don’t feel extreme you need to feel way more

Extreme right on the flat we’re forcing extreme onto you I just hit a little Frozen rope out there while you guys were chatting I know I saw that did you hit that or did the swing stage hit that I’ve only been I’ve only met Mark for like an hour and a half and

I already want to I already want to put him on the plane H so that was a great lesson with Greg great to meet Greg great watching him learn watching him hit shots he’s a class world class ball Striker but watching those Technologies together to show how we could move the needle with

Someone who struggles to move the needle with something they’ve not really practiced that much how they pushing the ground was eye opening now if you want to find out how to move your needle with some ground reaction forces and strike the ball a little bit better this video’s got all the information you’re

Going to need

9 Comments

  1. Just to clarify is Greg being told to keep more weight in his lead foot on the backswing? Then rotate around his lead side on the downswing?

  2. continues to amaze me how the pelvis is the most overlooked component of the golf swing… very enlightening!

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