2 PROS AND A CUP OF JOE – Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox, and LaVar Arrington discuss what to make of the New England Patriots documentary and some of the stories it could potentially unlock about the downfall of the dynasty.
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So there is this uh documentary coming out because why why doesn’t every franchise just do a Last Dance sort of sort of Spiel you know cuz that worked during the pandemic so we’ll go ahead and we’ll we’ll do one of these again but the dynasty of the New England
Patriots is coming out and one of the things that has been brought up is that story from a long time ago which resulted in you know Nick fs and the Eagles winning a championship and all that stuff but why the hell wasn’t Malcolm but playing in that game as the
Patriots defense completely melted down and couldn’t save Tom Brady who threw for over 500 yards in that game but apparently there is some speculation out there one of The Producers uh was in doing an interview recently and he just said that you know maybe that was the
Tipping Point that that could have been the beginning of the end and the unraveling of the Patriots dynasty the timeline doesn’t appear to match up based on some things that happened after that Super Bowl but nonetheless here we are still trying to figure out what the hell happened with Malcolm
Butler and some people speculating like this producer that maybe some people in this Patriots dynasty documentary series that’s coming out that that was sort of where things started to head towards a bad Road between bellich and the New England Patriots and just refresh people’s memories okay uh Malcolm Butler
Obviously the player who became most famous for back in 2015 picking off Russell Wilson at the goal line targeting Ricardo locki uh to help the Patriots win that Super Bowl uh started both of the games prior to the matchup versus the Eagles and ended up uh in that particular game I
Think he only played one special Team snap but didn’t play at all so that was what was a bit confusing and the article essentially talks about um you know the team almost beginning to fracture at that point in time even though the following year again they they did win
The Super Bowl so I’m not sure how much to read into it I just I think it’s it’s interesting that we still want to keep bringing this up like you know this is Peak NFL off season when someone has to rehash or recant again uh the New
England Patriots but it it does bring to light the fact that they could have won another Super Bowl like maybe if Malcolm Butler plays he is the difference in that game he obviously was the difference in them winning and losing versus Seattle if it comes down to one
Play One play yeah one so maybe it would have you know limited Nick F’s ability who threw it all over the yard uh big old big old Nick fos yeah that’s a great call I don’t know I don’t know I don’t I don’t buy into it I I
Think it’s all for for show I think it’s all for entertainment you know the the whole the the the four the four Pat of not repeating with the bills that just came out I mean I do think that there is a strong Trend here of of these types of
Of documentaries or docu series whatever you want to make it um coming out I mean I get it it’s it’s one of the most successful you know sports sports uh dynasties that have ever has ever taken place so if if you’re looking at it I think there’s going to probably be way
More value to the stories being told than what Malcolm Butler’s participation or lack thereof um was in in the in the grand scheme of this whole Patriots dynasty I’m going to defend Bill belich CU nobody wants to defend him all right they might be defending
You don’t know yeah we we don’t know but and by the way if if you’re wondering well this is this story is from 2017 2018 why we talking about it I don’t know why you tell LeBron to play last night we’ll have something to talk about
In the NBA from us it’s not our fault shot fire bang bang Hey listen we’re just we’re just going with what we got here okay butang I’m going to defend bellich because he’s never one time like I find it hard to believe that he would just not play Malcolm Butler for
Majority of that game without there being a real reason as to why it happened and whether we know the reason why it happened or not who knows we’ll have to wait to see when this comes out but never one time did he throw Malcolm Butler onto the bus never
One time has he revealed any of the reasons why and Malcolm Butler got a big-time contract that offseason with Tennessee and I I just I always look back at that and go he probably could have maybe said some things that would have painted Malcolm Butler in a bad
Light but instead he’s sort of warn it for questionable decision this is why the the organization and the dynasty may have fallen apart or whatever these storylines are and never one time did he let’s ask this question did he sign him back by the way at the end of his career
I yeah I think so yeah 2022 he signed Malcolm B let me ask you guys this who is the Catalyst of doing this this docu series who who who like is it the New England Patriots is it is it Tom Brady is it who who’s behind it I don’t I know
See that that plays a major part because if you’re thinking about like if you look at how the storyline played out for Last Dance that’s that derived from Michael Jordan right the narrative comes from you mean Scotty Pippen didn’t have a producers credit he was in there he
Was he He got interviewed I mean he was a part of it you know what I mean they they left out the sequel to you know apparently they got they they broke up so it’s it’s not going to be listen their families are close yeah the
Sequel is not going to end you know with a happy ending of you know the Pippen family and the Jordan family uh uniting together but uh damn I I would be curious to know who who like who made this possible and who drove it from behind the scenes because ultimately
That always dictates how the storyline and how the narrative is going to play out is it going to play out in favor of one thing or another is it going to be totally even and balanced on how the storytelling of it you know comes across that’s what I would be curious is it
Skewed towards the owner is it skewed towards the head coach is it both is it skewed towards Tom Brady you know what’s what are the other players what’s the significance of the value of the other players I mean you had an Aaron Hernandez during this time period you
Had a gronowski you know you had the receivers the amond doas and the Edelman and stuff I mean did you say almonda alond almonda you just turn Danny am yeah yeah it’s a it’s a new silk flavor yeah it’s a new silk shouts out the silk
Mr amonda um amonda uh but you know I I I would be curious to know going into it has he oh yeah oh yeah off the feel tremendous good for him yeah I and I know exactly where you’re coming from and that’s a storyline that doesn’t need
Any adjusting I’m sure go ahead and uh but I mean I think that that’s to me that’s a that’s got to be a major part of this right because somebody could be an apologist for this you know somebody could be a a staunch critic and and you
Know I’d like to know where that energy is coming from when I watch this cuz I am going to watch it oh yeah I mean it’s going to be uh fun to see all the behind the scenes stuff I just I look at it and I
Go I it it like they won how many Super Bowls a lot they they could have won more it’s like okay well they also could have lost more like you know like if if Seattle like if if Russell Wilson doesn’t turn into a turnover machine at
The goal line or if they just give it to Marshon Lynch I mean let’s be clear then you know there’s there’s a loss there you could go back to all of these close wins that they had in Super Bowls and but I I just I wonder if people I mean
Atlanta was th rling them oh yeah that throttling them I can remember where I was at man and I just know there was a lot of ones going up in the air and stuff like that and people lost interest so Wings started coming out I was say
Are you in Atlanta for that game no I wasn’t where were you where there were a lot of ones going up in there there was lemon pepper wings some some uh some chicken uh some parmesan garlic parm is there certain uh people was it was it was rain in the forecast sounds
Like uh Cahoots for those of you in colus Ohio or storms what the stormy weather cahoot shots out the Cahoots yeah yep I’m sure somebody was in cahoot been told they’ve got a great lunch buffet by the way well this one was a great Super Bowl Buffet I’ll tell you
That by the way that ought tell you the difference between California and Ohio in Ohio Cahoots is one place in California Cahoots is like a feed store like animal feed some Hoots some Hoots what the biggest difference is what driveth through beer and wine dang you drive through when you want to pick
It up didn’t um who’s the guy the Ohio State wide receiver didn’t he own one of those the guy I hope I have no idea sounds like a great businesses why am I blanking on the guy he I think he played in Cleveland maybe he coached in uh in
Cleveland for a little bit I don’t know is that going to make this story any better well it’s going to be better than talking about this I got to figure this out there’s an Ohio State wide receiver we Slaughter no not him not jici okay you’re you’re on the right
Lane you’re in the right lane you’re in the right Lan thing is white yeah you’re in the right lane of Joe jerv vicious I’ll put it that way okay yeah yeah it might have been Brian Harline if you look that up I’m almost positive Brian Harline Hollywood he had he had he had
Gas stations he didn’t have the drivethru I don’t oh he didn’t have drive-through booze just a GU what a chief but driveth through in the back and park in the front and is that why you’re all In Cahoots here’s the thing that I’d ask you is is that like a
Little bit it’s like it’s like daring you to do something stupid oh yeah putting those things way too close together I would say the the Brilliance of that name is you pull up and it’s a drive-thru but you look at your homie and you be like all right you want to go
In well I’ll go in you want to go in well I’ll go are are we in agreement that we’re going to go in and that we’re not going to talk about this any further I’m good you good we shaking has We’re In Cahoots boom park the car go do what
You need to do do you think you think the Dublin Police Department owns one of those like all right I dare you guys I dare you guys to drive out with a couple of 30 racks and uh ENT trapment dang probably a better question for the meatwagon what a setup uh which now
Makes his name more relevant as well of course you right there there is that um well listen Cahoots with the meat wagon that would be a sight to see sign me up for that I would sign up with that the neck roll crew you know what I mean
That’s right yeah we make it work
17 Comments
Spygate did.
They won it all the year after the Butler debacle
Kraft family behind the documentary
That was the beginning of me going from being a diehard Patriot fan to now a Patriot hater. Make excuses for BB if you like, but BB has always been vindictive. Rumor has it that a lot of players including Brady blame BB.
Brady threw for 500 yards 3 TD's an all time great performance flushed down the toilet by Belichick. I don't think the Eagles punted even one time.
When Belicheck wanted to replace Brady with Jimmy G that was the beginning of the end! The Malcolm Butler situation just added fuel to a fire that was already burning!
Their families are close☠🤣🤣
LaVar Arrington looks pissed on having to talk about the Patriots dynasty.
the starting corner getting benched for the super bowl is a bizarre move you can't tell me that wouldn't of made a difference in that game , video shows butler crying at the beginning of the game that was a bad call by belichick that's why he don't want to talk about it he possibly cost them that super bowl the defense got torched and he still didn't put butler in to see if that made a difference in the second half because he didn't want to make himself look bad for his bad decision , the close loses could of also been wins it goes both ways a win is a win
Jonas is so predictable
I would go farther and go to Jimmy G being traded by Kraft when Belichick didn’t want him to be traded
There are a ton of reasons BB does not have a job. But this is at the top of the list. When I heard it was disrespect of Matt Patricia, I thought it was a joke.
Hell is a real place; a noun and not an expletive. Are you heading there?
it was the comeback… What he did in that superbowl players started looking at Brady like he was more than just a man. unlike the first part of the dynasty the players started looking to Brady to sign off on the coaches decisions. Coach would say something and then they'd look to Tom and they didn't do anything without Brady giving it his okay.
i didn't think such a thing was possible. but in all honesty, it had never happened before. the moment was so definitive. it's like he ceased being a regular person and transcended into the equivalent of a player/coach. The players had seen him do it so many times. and over the years his mastery of the position became legend until he virtually had no equal. brady's desire to improve himself coupled with belichick's relentless desire to cover every possible outcome were on full display the final quarter of that Superbowl and in reaching the apex of his ultimate potential he produced a singularity of such force it annihilated the falcons organization and this awesome ungodly sight would ultimately cause the dynasty to rapidly decay when Brady decided to walk away. And in winning number 7. he moved to a position alone atop the pyramid. A living legend.
The irony however is for a man that has done it all. He still dreams of what could have been if they'd gone 19-0. For the perfectionist Brady, his fire which he'd used to vanquish so many opponents will forever haunt him. and keep him on the edge of sanity never being satisfied. never being complete. Cause for he, the world is simply not enough.
Brady will never admit it but i believe the person who started the Brady vs Belichick argument was Brady.
The Patriots are a garbage organization.
Lawrence Taylor played if he could play. We see it from weenie ball to the pros . If you are a stud you will play regardless of short comings.
Obviously