On today’s show, Jacob Culshaw hosts Scott Saunders, Harry Symeou and Kweku Afari to preview the weekend’s big fixture, Man City vs Chelsea & more. Phil Foden is world-class but Bukayo Saka isn’t?! The guys also talk Dan Ashworth’s move to Man Utd, Roy Hodgson’s future and the guys look back on the week’s UEFA Champions League action.
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Hello everybody welcome back to 90 men with Scott saers myself Jacob khaw Harry simu and a debut his first second cap second second cap second second first one of this season quari what a pleasure thank you for having me guys how are you mate you okay I’m good I’m good um just
Come back from afcon come back from aajan um it’s the holiday Blues even though I was out there for a work trip so yeah I’m Qui tell us about it man how was it it was amazing man like I flew myself out there worked for a few
Companies while I was out there and it was it was the best tournament to to go to it was probably the greatest afcon of all time um got to witness the host win afcon this first time has happened since 2006 and so it’s just yeah it was an
Incredible experience and the fact that it’s just a festival football and it’s very different to to English football where it’s very tribal um this is a celebration of football so even when teams lose they still danc they’re still singing as G it wasn’t great on a personal level when when out the group
Stage who supporting the final Quaker obviously I’m not I’m yeah I’m not going to be here spitting Nigeria propaganda that’s for sure but I very very happy to see the AR win it for purely football reasons and also got to see some Nigerian tears as well so great love it
Uh Harry how you getting on mate you Champions League last night yeah yeah brilliant Valentine’s Day Champions League what was the setup talk to us so cuz I heard big plans beforehand but yeah so I actually planned to cook a meal I was going to cook when I say cook
A meal I was going to put something under the grill and like I I even bought packet rice I’m going to do my special Mexican rice Uncle Ben and then you Chuck but um yeah my wife got called away because um someone was unwell so she had to take someone uh her
Grandmother to go and visit someone so basically I ended up not doing any of that getting a takeaway in just for myself what that is Champions League that’s nice bit of PSG bit of Lazio I was very similar I was on my own for Valentine’s bit of champo League rewatch the
Highlights as well um Scott I heard big things for you as well mate I heard it was a little bit of sushi action sushi sushi action with Champions League or that no no no I think I got home at about 8:30 so I caught a bit of the
Second half of the Champions League obviously watch back real football man style the the highlights so I can so I can talk about it on today’s show not extended not extended uh but I know enough to say that Tommy tle is under a bit tactical Tommy is under a bit of
Pressure should we actually before we start there make sure to leave a like on the video subscribe to night men follow their guys on their social channels the links are in the description below let’s touch on Bayern first uh one defeat to Lazio chiro moé with with the penalty a
10-man bon as well is it fair to say Harry that Tommy T is on a little bit of pressure yeah I’ve read something this morning that nargles had managed 40 more games or something and had had the same number of defeats so 10 defeats each
Nlman after 42 games and T after 82 I think it was um so that shows you that things aren’t going well at B and it’s hard to believe almost that that T’s only been in charge for about 11 months because it feels like there’s been so
Many ups and downs already um it’s just not going well for them at the minute and it’s it’s weird because when you look at that team there’s so much attacking talent in it San musala Kane you look at that and you think they should be tearing people apart and it’s
Just not happening at the minute and Lazio well Lazio man they they sat behind the ball for long periods they had a lot of energy in their team though which I think helped them Felipe Anderson was really good last night can I say l to have one of the weirdest
Teams it’s so weird is it I mean even you go through the lineup you look someone like Felipe Anderson gwend doozi I mean I completely forgot he went there um churro moé Lis Alberto it’s like a bizarre team um quu buying this season yeah where is it where is it going wrong
Do you think Jo it’s difficult because in the league Leverkusen have clearly been great and and they they look like they’re going to win it and I know we saw a similar thing like last season where it looked like Dortmund were going to win it and buying maner CL back but
It looks like a very different Prospect this year you feel sorry for the L of Harry Kane who’s gone to gone to B and secure secure a trophy and it’s not gone right for him but I’m a man who’s experienced the the roller coaster of Tommy T and Chelsea fans look back at
His time at Stanford Bridge fondly obviously because he got up to got multiple finals and he won the Champions League but it was a roller coaster of emotion and it does feel like when he’s at a club it feels like you mentioned he’s only been there 11 months it feels
Like it’s been a lifetime and that’s what it felt like at Chelsea he quite combustible he had that reputation coming into Chelsea he felt out a lot of people at PSG and you’ve already heard Rumblings of discontent at at Bayern Munich I think they’re gonna give him to
The end of the season because I don’t know what the solution is right now but he came out and talked about it like last night about how he doesn’t feel like his job’s Under Pressure but it clearly is they need to get results and
For B the the Bundesliga is a is a given almost it has been for the last decade and the champions league is really where they try and make their Mark but it looks like they’re not going to win any of those competitions the season how did
You feel like I don’t know if you watched the game sari used to manage Chelsea as well and you had Tommy on the other side it’s interesting because even though Mar sari’s time at Chelsea it’s it’s an interesting one he finished he finished third in the Premier League and
He won he won the Europa League and got to final of the League Cup objectively that’s a great season but that probably my least enjoyable period as a Chelsea fan um we were convinced by SAR ball how it’s going to be different to what we previously played and it just it just
Wasn’t the Vibes weren’t great and we all remember the League Cup Final where keer ref to come off and it looked like s was going to resign on the touchline walking down the tunnel um so it was uh it was a different time with Chelsea F
Under sari but he did a good job last night I was definitely WR for Tommy T though I’ve got such a such an affinity for that man because he’s such a a Chelsea he’s a Chelsea Legend he won Champions League of the club and he shouldn’t have really been sacked um but
Because of the new ownership group or whatever it happened but in that game yesterday I was definitely for Tommy to sari deserves credit though as well because that was not sari ball what you saw last night no it wasn’t and he’s shown that they can be adaptable I know
When you’re up against a better a better team then naturally you maybe go into your show a little bit and drop off a little bit but some of the defensive shapes we saw from latio they all periods where all 11 of them were behind the ball um do you think they got away
With it a little bit in the first half though har you look at the chances B created to be honest they probably could have had the ball of course you need a bit of luck though don’t you when you’re the inferior side and that’s what they
Had on the night but they also have bags and bags of energy like gwend dozi I saw loads of him at Arsenal I don’t particularly think he’s a great character and all the rest of it but there was never any question about the guy’s engine and his ability to get up
And down a football pitch might not always make the right decision in the final third but just having that kind of running power in your Midfield it can count for a lot Neil MO is a big fan of gwend DOI as well I start going around I didn’t what
Did he what happened of um had a thing in the past oh in the sorry I thought I well somebody mugged somebody off on a Tik Tok I didn’t realize this I had a little look at um sort of lao’s record in the Champions League Knockouts that’s
Their first win in a knockout stage match in 24 years having said that I don’t feel well I feel pretty confident that bar are going to turn this around I know people are talk about tle Under Pressure it is only a one-goal lead back to the alians do you actually see B
Going out of this leg no I don’t personally I mean the the concerning thing is I’ve seen a lot of people point to it over the the last two games I think they had one shot on target zero shots on target zero shots on Target in
Back toback games that is not good with all that attack and talent you’ve got people melting down about Harry Kane not having any creativity behind him so he’s dropping back to try and create things from Deep which is I see Bayern fans on on socials going man stay up front you’re a
Striker cuz he dropped deep at Spurs he did he did yeah and it worked under a few different managers but obviously yeah I think at the aliens if buy and go out I mean I know you said I think they’ll give them to end of the season
If they’re still second in the league and they go out to Lao in the Champions League Yeah well yeah if they go out to that year but I think you expect them to go through especially I um but yeah if they if they lose that second level they go out he’s
He has to go because there’s expectations of Bayern Munich and it’s excellence and it has been Excellence for the past decade I know that they they’re desperately in need of Champions League or desper won a champions league but that this season’s not been good enough yeah can we give the referee
Credit yesterday as well I wanted to touch on that that decision so in real time I didn’t think it was a red card but I thought it was a penalty I then watched it back and I thought you know what he’s got that absolutely bang
Without V either in real time I was like why is this guy rolling around on the floor I couldn’t I didn’t think there was any I didn’t think it was a pen I didn’t think it was a red nothing nothing I didn’t think it was anything
Real time real time yeah yeah and then I saw the replay and I thought because there was even the commentator I think it was Ian dark he was talking about the missed chance the referees pointed to the spot and only the red car comes out
Is he going oh hold on a minute like this is and and it can happen right it can happen but I thought it was a really good decision great decision you know what we’ll so Lazio go to the alians with the one goal lead the other game um
Of the night was psg2 RA saage I don’t know if you guys caught this one can I just I wanted to mention mbappe’s ball striking it’s absolutely frightening I’ve never I can’t think of another player recently who can strike a ball as well as him or am I going a bit over the
Top there putting us on the spot there Jing I can’t think of many other players who can strike a ball better than him in World football there’s variations to his ball striking and I was talking to my mate about killing bppe it’s like when he gets older what skills are
Translatable so he’s not riing on the pace and the ball striking is amazing the way he deceived the keeper and he said to give the other way that near post finish got that unlock he’s he’s such a good player man and I feel like with kilan backo waiting for him to
Ascend and become the undoubted best player in the world he’s doing that it’s just in a league that people don’t really watch so it’s important for him on Champions League mat to to make his Mark and hit those moments do you think this is going to be his last opportunity
With PSG that’s the question absolutely no question yes I think that that Madrid move has been rumored for about six years he’s had pictures of Ronaldo on his like walls when he when he’s a teenager or when he’s young that is destined to happen when you talk about
Like elevating yourself into that like level that you know you can win Balon doors and and and this kind of thing like look at everyone knows how good JW Bellingham is Right everyone knew how good JW Bellingham was at Dortmund and everyone was clamoring to get him you
Look at what he’s doing at Real Madrid now his profile is on a completely different level and he’s already ascended with in six months to the point where people are calling him the best player in the world and you think what that will do for mbappe I think it
Should have happened way earlier for me it should have happened last year I I don’t know why he signed that last contract but he should he should do it for the sake of his own career go to Madrid play in that kit 10 years or so
And he becomes one of the greatest of all time for me it’s almost written isn’t it Harry I think you look at it we all we we all said about mbappe that that move was was going to happen at some point it does feel like the last
Opportunity and I guess the question to you Harry is we touched on the last show and if you haven’t checked out we ranked basically the teams most likely to win the Champions League we put PSG outside the top five most likely to win do you actually see that changing this time I
Don’t think PSG played that well last night so it’s had quite a good team this season yeah I I don’t want to get like Killian mbappe is such a good player that he can win you games on his own right and it’s a cup competition at the
End of the day so if you’ve got killi and mbappe in your side you have a chance of going far and of hurting people I just didn’t think psg’s overall performance was good enough for it to move my kind of prediction in terms of where we had them um I thought in the
First half especially real Assad with a better team by P I think if you keep him back quiet then yeah yeah yeah he was on y the other day saying they they do Real Madrid in a two leg o why not that was our reaction as well that’s that’s the
Thing you got to back it you got to back it if if it’s your team and be honest like qu I don’t see it just because of pedigree but this is the round team that’s in transition this is not the a fully formed round team they’re waiting
For killing mppe to join and they’re they’re team that playing an interesting formation and on the mbappe point where does he fit into this R team that currently playing the diamond they playing two up top that who drops out of that team um but in terms of him as a
Player in terms of what he does for PSG and how important he is he’ll view this as the Last Dance who VI this as a final chance to win a champions league for a team for a city that I was born in I just don’t think it’s don’t think it’s
Going to happen but I think that if they come up against Arsenal I think that Arsenal definitely would be the favorites against PSG for sure we’ve had a few few comments that com from Andy big man Andy Jakey tried his best not to bring xia Pedro into the debate for best
Of the world H we got another one from Joe Allen actually this is just on Harry Kane is it Beyond coincidence now that two clubs are struggling for trophies when Kane is the striker he’s up he’s out of this world for banging in goals but I believe he is detriment to the
Overall team style is I mean there is also a debate to be had about whether Tottenham are a better team without Harry Kane in terms of the way an plays do you reckon he would have if if to if he’d have stayed at Tottenham he’d have
Scored a ton goals this season the way that like an gets the players to the by line and cut for cut backs Harry Kane would have scored 50 yeah probably but it’s a coincidence but there’s something to be said about moving on from a player that’s been so dominant or so he’s been
The predominant figure at a club if you look at the way that klopp moved on from coutinho if you look at the way that Spurs moved off from Gareth Bale and obviously took him a little while and the sils didn’t all hit but they became a better team and more consistent team
As a result result of it the Harry Kane moving from Spurs might have just alleviated a lot of pressure that was on all the players because it’s all about Harry Kane Will he win a trophy will will Spurs actually achieve anything with him there and the players seemed
Like lighter son’s playing the best football he’s played in a couple of Seasons um and so there is something to be said about a big player that moving on the team that managed to progress off the back of it 100% 100% a couple of other Champions League ties before we
Get into the Prem this weekend Ley Real Madrid one I just wanted to touch on Brahim Diaz yeah this gu was messes I’m not I don’t even think that’s an exaggeration the way he’s actually like getting chopped at the ankles he’s stayed on his feet he’s gone past three
Or four and you’re thinking wow this is a great run so then actually bend it into the far Corner Harry I mean having said that the overall picture of the game leig must be kicking themselves they haven’t got anything from the game and lunin had a great performance and
Goal yeah I remember people sort of tweeting I think Grizz might have tweeted something to the effect of this during the game where he said this Real Madrid side after about 20 minutes half an hour they’re not going to push anyone for the champions league and because he
Backed up his point Point Grizz has been saying that Arsenal are the closest challenges to City for it but then Real Madrid got the result and they got out of there with a one-nil win and they’re going to take it back to the burnout and they’re going to go through so yeah I
Mean Leipzig will be kicking themselves but Leipzig just aren’t at the level that they may be were at three or four years ago it’s hard when you’re a club whose model is generate player sell player like you’re not always going to find those gems over and over and over
Again there’s going to come a point where bright are going to dry up eventually as well look at them now they you know people were talking about them being in the top five top six this season that’s not going to happen they’re going to finish around about
Mid-table I would say yeah but is that because their recruitment or is that because the teams around them have improved it’s a bit of both it’s a bit of both like you want to sustain a level but if there’s so much player turnover it’s difficult to do that and so if your
Model is built around producing a player getting them up to a level then everybody else comes in takes them for big money great you’ve got a really good bank account but where’s the continuity where’s the the stability in terms of building a side that’s going to compete
For years that’s why you’re going to be up and down I think in terms of your level back on to Madrid quu where do you rank their chances of winning this competition we put man city as our favorites to win it what’ you reckon yeah this is not a complete Real Madrid
Side there there’s still gaps in this team I think they need to improve their fullbacks I feel like their situation the keep been unfortunate this season but it’s real Madrid so anything can happen so like it’s real Madrid would you be surprised like a couple of years ago when they won
Off the back of Benz just doing a Madness um no they weren’t the favorit that year the people thought that as a Real Madrid team in transition so it’s Real Madrid who can never bet against them but I think there are I think Man City are definitely stronger than them I
Think Man City are more complete than them and I feel like Real Madrid next season with killing mbappe are a completely different Prospect of this season but you wouldn’t be surprised to see him in the last stage of this tournament yet again we had Real Madrid second Manchester City top 3-1 win away
At Copenhagen Can I just uh shout out John Dy Brighton dropping because they have a Watford reject up front brilant Che John appreciate that hope you’re having a good day make sure to leave a like on the video Kevin De Bryer out for four months and he’s back I think that’s eight goals
And assists in seven games for him Scott the return has I know we say this on every show I does I do apologize but it’s weird one de bruyne because even though he’s worldclass arguably probably one of the best in his position you almost expected what he’s delivering now
Maybe not as quickly as he’s done it but has it actually surprised you the numbers he’s producing as quickly as he has no no not at all I think his his his comeback has not been rushed and I think that they’ve managed his minutes really
Well um I think pep said when he was coming back in he could only play like 20 30 minutes or and then it goes to 60 minutes and then you can’t run the risk of like just putting him in and him breaking down after a while because
You’re can to miss him for the rest of the season but he’s at that age now I think you can use him in that type of role and you can expect because he’s just like mentally he’s just so so far above like most people on the pitch and
He has the technical ability to execute what he wants to do as well a lot of the time uh I I think he’s we need to appreciate him because he hasn’t got he’s going to keep the the minutes will dwindle uh eventually when you say appreciate him what do we mean in terms
Of the greatest of all time yeah but the thing is like when you’re when you talking about the pantheon of football you’re talking about moments and unfortunately for Kevin De BR in the two Champions League finals that he’s played he’s come off injured and one of them he
Lost against Chelsea and the other one they won but he wasn’t on the pitch when they won the game and so he needs that moment in the Champions League that’s where luuka modri built his legacy that’s where Tony Cruz built his legacy it’s great winning League titles but
When you’re talking about the greatest footballers the greatest midfielders of all time they’ve done it in the Champions League and not saying that Kevin De bruyne hasn’t but at the biggest stage when gets to the final he hasn’t yet due to unfortunate circumstances so I think he’s on the
Personal mission and I think if he does do it and M he do win the Champions League this season and he’s a fol on that side then you’re talking about him along the L I don’t know not Javi and inesta because they’re on a different level but you’re talking about him with
The modri with the with the Tony crues with the greatest sen fielders of all time for sure Harry would reck him yeah for me talent wise he’s up there but I agree with what quu is saying because there haven’t been those moments that you can you can kind of you know point
To straight away when you talk about Kevin De Brer we’ve talked a lot about his new hairstyle in the show and I actually think his new hairstyle got in his way the other night there was a header that he had early on in the game
There was a cross no no no hear me out you say expect respect it there was a cross that came in early on in the game when it was nil nil and he was in the middle of the penalty area and he sort of tried to
Glance it towards the far post and I feel like the softness of his hair took the sting off the ball she saying you should wear a hairband babbe yeah it looks great I’ve had this dilemma as well on a Sunday I’ve had this dilemma Jakey it looks great but is it practical
My dad always pulls me he’s B to be fair but he pulls it towards side he says mate like when you’re older you’re going to thank me when you go B cuz the practicality of it I mean how long skip a generation how long does it take you
To get ready you know but the thing about that again it’s a side not no but seriously I love that this is a proper conversation no but like it’s part of the pr because the thing about Kevin De bruyne he’s so functional and he’s boring let’s be honest and we talk
About like the the the greats they’re they’re enigmatic they give you a little bit more when it’s off the pitch and I think Kevin br’s PR is not amazing he’s just a great footballer and so the long hair like people talk about him being the hyp bolic chamber for four months
He’s coming out of it he’s got this new look I think it’s good for Kevin De Bry we need to talk about him a bit more because he is in my opinion he the greatest Premier League seter midfielder of all time um and and to be considered
One of the greats you have to have a bit on the pitch and off the pitch as well and I think he’s doing that now we got to get qu one for welcome to world class that would be that would absolutely super um we need to talk about de Bru
And we also need to talk about Bernardo Silva yeah for that finish disgusting unreal unreal Phil foden that combination of De bruyne Phil foden Bernardo Silva I think that might be the best three in the world as a combination at the minute I can’t think of many
Better threes in terms of the balance in terms of the te technique in terms of the talent can you think of a better three as a combination and then when you have rodri behind those guys the thing is I I don’t I I don’t know if I agree
Because I don’t think any of them I don’t think that three and maybe the minutes uh maybe they minutes if you check them call me a liar here but they don’t none of those players automatically strike me as like star in every single game so I I don’t think of
Them as a a trio as a trio you know what I mean because pep roulette you know what I mean pep roulette yeah was Pep roulette is it the FPL thing pep roulette I think my point is though if you like if you think of three players that have played with each
Other this season I just feel like those I can’t think of another three that compliment each other so well especially in the final third well was a bit of a rouette going on at Real Madrid at the moment modri doesn’t start as many games as he used to but if you think about
Bellam you think about venicius who’s been out with injuries a lot and you think modri they work quite well as a trio but in terms of just the ability to play football the ability to play in multiple positions you can play Phil F you can play beral Silva and Kevin De
Bruy anywhere really it’s just it’s just fluid football and when they’re on song they they’re yeah they’re so good to watch it’s and it’s Man City though it’s it’s it’s so functional and it’s so boring boring it hasn’t got that genes quad but it’s so it’s it’s so it’s so
Good though we’re going up levels today no I I I’ve said this a lot like I’ve called them robotic in the past and people haven’t booy never liked it when I called them robotic but it I can’t sit there and watch them and be like fascinated with
It because I just know what the outcome is I’ll tell you why people take issue with robotic cuz I think there’s too much flare there to call them robotic I think I get what you’re saying I wouldn’t say it anymore but that that was my previous criticism but still I I
Don’t and you know we we we said this comparison a lot like who would you rather watch that klopp Liverpool team or the city team always pick Liverpool always pick Liverpool cuz it’s just more entertaining city is so like you say functional and they have great players within it but you could
Argue for example like I know dra Gish went off injured the other night but has his star power been a bit uh stimi in in a sense because he’s playing Pep Guardiola but then but then you’ve got players like Harland and de bruyne that and rodri that still come through as
Stars even in that so does that then say that Jack gish’s star power wasn’t ever that high that it could flourish in or or come through in a side of that level at Aston Villa it came through yeah and and we see that with a lot of players
Like they the big fish in a small not that Villa is a small Club but at the time they weren’t doing great yeah got be careful that blood but do you see what I mean like Villa weren’t in a great place at that time so greish take more responsibility
Whereas the very very elite players the de bruers the Harland the the Roger even in a side like that that you still look at them and go that’s the stars of this team yeah should we touch on the fod and the so Ria Ferdinand said that sacker isn’t
World class but Phil foden is where do we stand on it nonsense nonsense because people fall in love with itest football and I love I love to appreciate players who just get me out my seat and aesthetically pleasing but you can’t tell me that b Saka is not in the top
Three or four players in his position in the world he just is and the Numbers number speak for itself I don’t want to sit here and W’s lyrical about an arsal player but like in but in terms of saaka like I think to say because pH on the
Hot streak right now he a player that wasn’t a guaranteed St for Man City at the beginning of the season and to say that he’s world class and M Saker isn’t I think you’re just living in the here and now I think Bai Sak has proved for
The last two and a half three seasons that he is one of the best players in the Premier League consistently giving you those numbers and an Arsenal team that have been good and he’s got great players around him but when Saka is missing which he’s very rarely missing
Which is a huge part of his game like Arsenal do miss him and I I just I don’t like the discourse that Phil foden’s world class and sacker isn’t I think they both are and they’re both showing it this season are you agree with quo I think they both are I think foden
Technically is better but sacka produces the numbers that’s why I stand on that Harry well I think yeah if you if this was a game of FIFA or a football manager when you broke it down into every single sort of set attributes if you went passing shooting whatever I think fodm
Will come out on top on a lot of them MH but there’s a few big factors that get overlooked with sacka first of all availability is a big thing touch with that continues um also so the ability to kind of and again this maybe comes back to
The point I was just making about in a in a better side it’s harder to be the one that shines through but sacker is literally Arsenal star like everything goes for him and I’ve seen him loads of times put the team on his back and carry
Them over the line in situations I’m not saying foden couldn’t do that if he was in the Arsenal team but I haven’t got as much evidence of that because he plays in such a wonderful team often when Phil foden comes off the bench and scores a
Goal City at two3 nil up already MH so I I agree with quu I think they’re both top class I think they’re both worthy of the praise that they get I don’t think you can really make that comparison too much because one is definitely a right
Winger and the other one is we don’t really know he thinks he’s a 10 yeah he probably but then the other question is and I know people will say that City are better than Arsenal and I accept that but the other question is why has it taken Pep Guardiola so long to trust
Phil foden because and even now he still doesn’t trust him completely like rogy when he’s fit plays every game Harland when he’s available plays every game um de bruyne if he didn’t have those Fitness issues would play every game Bernardo Silva pretty much plays every game Phil foden doesn’t and never has
Why is that a trust thing or is that because of the way pep wants to play against certain and different teams I don’t think it’s a trust thing because he threw him in at an early age yeah I think it’s the way that football’s gone
Though is the death of the number 10 and there aren’t really many number 10s in football anymore players expected to track back and do the D work the other way Phil foden 10 years ago in the 4231 formation is playing is playing as a number 10 and and he’s one of the best
Players in the world but he can’t do that right now he has to he has to either play out wide or play in a little bit of a deeper position and it’s maybe hindered him in terms of the individual Brilliance that we want to see week in
Week out but in terms of being a cog in this man City team that win everything every year it works for Man City and I I don’t see why pep guard would change that in terms of making him a more prominent figure in this team when he’s
Worked out how he can use Phil F in the most effective way possible before I Chuck over to you Scott got a couple of comments B says what is world class pleas please define before saying this play is getting to Jakey so obviously we’ve changed our own definition Jake
You didn’t have Phil foden in welcome tool class when you uh brought receip a few months ago Oh my he did have sacka and so did Harry Phil foden was not in the conversation we did this after city won the treble by the way so just just
To clarify was that in the attacker position or was that in the squad in the squad entire Squad you did have Enzo Fernandez in well now you’re stuck Jakey aren’t you oh Enzo Fernandez that’s a stinky one there Enzo Fernandez but I really
Don’t know B I hear it I hear it I hear it what I will say right is that was after the World Cup in fed where we did it no it wasn’t it wasn’t after the world I’m just tring it that was like July a that was
Before the season start yeah I’m not sure about that like I’m going to be unpopular neither are neither of them really yeah but that depends on your definition of world that’s depends on your definition of world class I I can’t sit there and say like categorically
That neither can be but I think sacka I think he’s amazing but there is something to say he’s won was he in the FA Cup winning team he in the squad exactly so he hasn’t he hasn’t got over the line at the big moment in the Champions League he hasn’t even played a
Champions League knockout game yet so is it fair to say that I’m not saying he’s not like amazing but you have to get to a point where you get in a world 23 which is how I Define world class you need to have done it at every single
Level or be part of it can I ask you a question so when did Harry Kane become world class oh God you are great Ladi gentlemen got after we we we all all right I’ll use this as an example hurry kanane did it o over a long enough period of like six
Years or so to say and for England as well to say that he is one of the best druggers in the world he’s one of the most Dependable goal scorers in the world whereas like the way that we did it for welcome to world class last time
Mosalah would have been ahead of sacker in that position for me and at the time we were still talking about Messi being world class as well and my argument with Phil foden is I don’t think he’s even could you even say and maybe I’m wrong could you even say he’s a First Choice
Regular every single bone every single time in a Pep Guardiola team could you say that no no exactly so I don’t think either of them are m in two weeks that could completely change in in in three months that could completely change but as it stands I think there’s other
Players this has made me think about the way that we did Welcome to 12 class and I’m now going to propose that we change it next season what you what you change it well I don’t I don’t think it’s necessarily fair to do it in like a
Starting 11 and then a a 23 man squad because you can have a stockpile of really top players in one particular area of the pitch and then people that are of a lesser standard are going to get in because their department is less competitive left backs how many world
Class left backs are there that’s the whole reason why we changed it we used to define it as like top five in your position in the world and then we R God damn there’s so many good left backs around there’s only two left backs there’s literally two left backs in the
World so we changed it to like to a 23 OB well then maybe we shouldn’t be so rigid next time and we should go right left backs if there’s only two or three that we think are world class that’s all there is rather than saying well we have
To have five of this and five of that agree just want run through a few comments we’ got a poll in the in the live chat about who is world class sacka fo than anyone else Etc a few comments um palash said to be honest Scott is
Right neither a world class venicius is what world class looks like top three in his position every single game yeah I agree I agree Maj says as an Arsenal fan i’ say foden is slightly better but to completely play down sacka as a top player equally is ridiculous uh is
Anybody doing that though really is anyone doing that I I don’t know I didn’t actually watch what Rio said is is was he doing that he wasn’t playing any one that he just said that Saka has essentially he said sacka has more to prove Before He’ll put him in a world
Class category which is not an outrageous thing to say like it’s not obviously the way gets framed at the top but also it’s like sorry to to dwell on this point but it’s like we all agree that Jud Bam’s world class why how many seasons he done at to level two and a
Half maybe but because he’s a real win the white Shir they Haven won anything yet last season they bottled brush bottled like he hasn’t won anything like significant you he’s won the same am as B saaka but we call him world class and so so like if B play for Real Madrid
Right now and he’s putting up the same numbers putting up for Arsenal class so I don’t know honestly I think Club profile comes in another here’s another way to look at it if Pep Guardiola signed Bayo saaka tomorrow would he start more games in that man city side then probably because
He’s got one defined position probably well on the right yeah yeah that’s that’s completely fair I agree and and it’s to foden’s detriment a little bit that he’s become a bit of jack of all trades I I really do I don’t know because you look at doku he doesn’t start every
Game yeah that might nature of City though like you know as well with dku right like I’m going to get some a better player dku is a bit overrated and I’ll tell you why because manity everybody got used to man City’s playing patterns yeah greish on the left gets
The ball what’s dra greish going to do every time he’s going to cut inside and people are like will you just take on your man for once because that’s just the way they played dku comes in isn’t technically better than Jack relish isn’t like he will he’s a good player
Jeremy dacker I’m not trying to discredit him but it’s a lot of the hype about him at the start of the season was because it was different M it was something that man city didn’t have a guy that was coming in off the left and taking people on on the outside like is
He ever been better than Riyad mahrez was for Man City I know it’s early days but no so no but I think I think it goes back to what we said about different players for different games and I don’t think sack would play every single game because pet likes the rotate it
Depending on the opponent I’m not saying that Sak’s better play than dku levels but my point is if you compare gish’s sty as a left Winger to doku sty as a left Winger I’d say actually in terms of quality probably G is slightly the better player but he interchanged that
Quite a lot I think if sack let’s say hypothetically sack join Manchester City I honestly believe it depends on the game whether he would start I think I I think sack would I think sack would start for if if F if you had foden and Saka on the right you inter change
Oh yeah don’t get me wrong if if I was picking one to join United I’d pick sacka like in a heartbeat yeah because I think he’s I think he’s amazing I think he’s brilliant both are great both are amazing both both brilliant and both can
Play on the same team as well and both should be playing for England start for England so both can play easily great debate great debate let us know in the comments section I mean it’s been popping off to there’s a comment from umy who says Harry likes to find arguments that suit him
Obviously I’m not going to back up someone else’s point am I um easy what I make you Harry I’m not going to back up someone else’s point and kill my own am I right we’ll get on to this weekend we touch on some man city individuals but
It’s the big one on Saturday Man City Chelsea quq half five before we touch on the game itself why are Chelsea 10 in the league that’s the that’s the how can you how can you throw him a question like that why are Chelsea 10 in the league like Scott
Bri it was probably the nicest way to say how can you sum up Chelsea’s season given they are mid-table the thing is Chelsea we’re in a reality right now where we are a mid-table team we finished in the bottom half last season we’re going to finish around midt
Again this season um and it’s there’s a multitude of reasons I do not lay the blame of maricia Postino’s door I think that given where Chelsea are at right now in terms of our status in terms of where we are as a club in comparison to other teams in the Premier League we
Cannot sack Mara Postino what manager we going to get after him like there’s not many top managers that are clamoring for the Chelsea job because we are not a great team right now I think you got to lay a lot of blame at the door of the
Owners it was a bold tactic to go out and give these players long contracts players that unproven at this level unproven in this league um and as a result that you kind of diminish their resale value so if you were to try and get rid of these players like Madrick or
Lenzo in the summer who’s going to buy them for the amount of money that we pay for him um but there is quality there I was talking to my friends with Manchester United fan and he was going through the Chelsea team was like I’ll take him I’ll take him I’ll take him
I’ll take him but trying to do that all at once it’s not feasible there’s a reason reason why no one does it like that um and so there are so many reasons why it’s not got right for Chelsea injuries are an an issue as well but I
Never want to I would never want to use as an argument because every team’s had injuries this season we can all go through every team in the Premier League and they all had injury issues it’s just been so many different reasons but I think ultimately the blame has to lay at
The the door of the ownership because we saw we all saw P check on Monday Night Football and how eloquently he spoke he’s a man that should have stayed around he’s a man that was a bridge between the the dressing room and the ownership group and the hierarchy and of
Course when a new ownership group comes in they want to change everything um at all levels but it’s just not there’s something not quite right at Chelsea the one Saving Grace is that what’s happen at Chelsea over the last 20 years when the money came in is that we’ve papered
Over the cracks in Dody Seasons we were talking about the SAR season at Chelsea where it wasn’t a great one and they won a trophy if you think out Conte second season where Chelsea finished outside the top four but won the FA Cup Chelsea have an opportunity to go and win a
Trophy this season which is crazy and if they do we can go and look at this as a positive season it’s difference ‘s first season at Arsenal but but it’s it’s something to build upon players like Cole Palmer players that are coming through these young players having a
Trophy on their resume will definitely fill them with confidence going to the next season so I’m my one Solace is that we’re still in the FA Cup we’re we’re in the final of the League Cup again and if we win that trophy then there’s something to build on and buy Postino
More time but I’m not in the camp of Chelsea fans though like get rid of Postino because I’m worried about where we go if we do second do you think he’s the right man though from his CV what he’s done at Spurs what he’s done at PSG
What you’ve seen so far at Chelsea not the right man of Chelsea go and win like Premier League titles I don’t think that that’s P has never shown you that what he did show at Spurs is that they were Club in Tero after after sacking ABB and
They need man to stay the ship and he consistently got them into the top four and if you can do that job at Chelsea the exact same job he did at Spurs at Chelsea I’ll be very very happy got them to some finals or got them to a
Champions League final got to a League Cup Final as well um and they were consistently competitive and there were some Seasons that they should have won the league um and if you can do that at Chelsea I think all Chelsea fans will take that because because right now
We’re in the mud let’s be honest Chelsea at Mid table and it’s not looking promising and you see performances you see performan against Viller away from home oh that’s positive and then you see the win against Palace which is very very different and you you start to see
Shoots of recovery but then you look at performances like the one anfield where we got turned over completely and it’s just been so inconsistent but for me as a Chelsea fan I think we need to just stand firm and keep hold Postino because I think that he’s our best option at
This current moment so Harry hearing all of that from quu does that change your take on Chelsea poch this season when they appointed poch I thought that it made sense because of his sort of history of kind of taking on a group that wasn’t performing but also bringing
Youngsters up to a level where they’re ready to be you know really impactful and and have a big hand in his team’s progress over time though I don’t think I don’t think that poch is the right man for Chelsea um and the reason I say that
Is more to do with it’s not really about tactics or anything like that for me it’s the character I think that when you have a project that takes time is going to take time and needs a lot of buying from your supporters I think you need someone who’s a really gripping
Character that you will follow and you will believe in and I look at pochettino not just in interviews and press conferences but on the sidelines at times as well this might sound like a silly point but I I I look at him sometimes and I feel like he hasn’t got
That edge that makes me go if I were a Chelsea fan I want to follow you or I want to back you up like I of a manager who has that Mourinho Mourinho Mourinho has that butly had it yeah you’re going to say it’s a Dar example because I’m
Going to go back to my own team but artetta gives you that from the day he came in he sat down and gave a press conference and basically said all the things that were wrong with Arsenal wow and then he’s always 100% up for any battle on the side like whatever it is
And even when you disagree with what he’s done you you feel like you need to back him and I just feel like that fire is missing from potin you know yeah and I don’t know if I were a Chelsea fan if I’d be able to kind of keep interested
In following him when the results aren’t there but I don’t see that side either but what i’ say about arteta he had the security of working with edu and they’ve got a very close relationship so even when you finish eth and eth and fifth like he not this is the thing though the
First eth yeah he he came in yeah he came in in December End come on man like it’s like he came in in December and they finished e8th okay fine making here is potard 6 months arteta has been through a difficult phase to the brink of the sack and they
Stuck with him and he came through it I used that argument with ten hog and potin but there’s always there was always things with artetta that you looked at and you went okay we’re not getting the results but that’s good that’s I don’t know what that is at
Chelsea yeah I don’t know what it is that if I were a Chelsea fan I’d be supposing to grab on to if Chelsea wasn’t win the league cup would that would that be something re to yeah because I think Al winning the FA Cup in the first season against AR was just I
Can’t believe that final still to this day um I think that bought him enough time but I think when you heard ARA talk in interviews and press conferences he was a very confident man because he knew that his job wasn’t at risk and despite the the noise in the media like his his
Job was very safe and he’s talked interview subsequent to that about how there’s a plan and there phases and how Arsenal in this phase or this phase and I think the Chelsea hierarchy just being unified and being in line with pochettino is very very important so he
Can go out and do his job and knows that and end of the season his job’s not on the line but the issue that he’s got is he’s a former Spurs man he’s a former Spurs man that is that carry white for sure man for sure now as Chelsea fan do
You is that in the back of your mind thinking I don’t understand it because I feel like when when Chelsea like mock Spurs or Tak M out Spurs is punching down in my lifetime as supporting Chelsea Spurs never beat us and so I get why Arsenal Arsenal hates Spurs and
Spurs hate Arsenal but the fact that we’re we’re singing songs about hating Spurs consistently for me I’m just like they’ve never never been that team to us maybe in recent years Battle of the bridge and the stuff that happened with con and and tukul um kind of elevated
That rivalry but for me it’s never been a thing but for a lot of Chelsea fans if you hear Chelsea fans online him being a former Spurs man is a big big issue because we normally give them our Gaffers we never go and get their
Gaffers and so that that is a a big issue for that for a lot of Chelsea fans but for me it’s not he’s a good manager he’s the best manager that we can get or could have got at the time and if we’re to sack him I don’t know where we go
From here just just before we go on just a couple of updates um I was right on the poll according to uh the audience vote neither now he’s picking out to see taking over from Jakey here because Victor has sent a Super Chat saying I never spend money on stupid stuff today
I’m spending money to tell Jake he’s done a really good job hosting the last couple of months as I said I don’t spend money on stupid what a man that’s very very kind I feel a little bit embarrassed now I don’t take You’ been great he’s right thanks for I don’t like
To take compliments but what what I was going to say about the XL Spreadsheet Scott just going back back onto that I don’t take issue with it because you brought the receipts up there and really show me up Fernandez hey scored the other night he’s amazing Quake is now genuinely
Questioning my Bulldog I’ve had some howlers I’ve had some absolute howlers what’s the worst howler you’ve had um this season I think I said on a video somewhere the Chelsea finished ahead of Arsenal somewhere on the interet you can find that um we had a great preseason it
Was amazing Nicholas Jackson and kungu were working together I was like going to have a great season and it just hasn’t worked out um I think I said Chelsea to the pre-season trap yeah the preseason but that if if as a football fan if there’s a time to be optimistic
It’s in preseason because the season plays out and ultimately most teams are disappointed but in preseason when things are working out you’re making signings that’s the time to be optimistic and enjoy football Scott yeah did the man um sorry did the Crystal Palace result for Chelsea carry any
Weight for you if they did not won it would have been yeah hell on Earth I mean the manner in which he which Chelsea cross over to qu but the man inela won that game as well I think it does hold something I thought Palace were what is that
Something a bit of what Troy de would call CES I really thought de defeat was avoidable for Palace because I thought that game was just going into a draw and obviously I think Chelsea spotted an opportunity and like fair play Connor Gallagher as well has been getting a lot
Of stick and for me I think not every single player has to be super flashy they just need to do a job in the team and I think if Connor Gallagher was playing for another team doing the job he’s doing Chelsea fans would want to
Sign him yeah for sure I I’m under no Illusions like if this is Chelsea from from 10 15 years ago with all those great players in there we had a BAC Lampard Deco Midfield color gallaga is not touching grass he’s going out on loan to vest and we’re never seeing him
Again but but in this Chelsea team right now he’s so important the matter War Captain arm more than anybody than for Chelsea this season and what I’ll say about con as well he gets a lot of criticisms I don’t like it when you see fan bases criticize homegrown players
You see with Liverpool fans a lot a lot of Liverpool fans that criticize Curtis Jones I’m like he’s a player that understands what it means to to play for the club he understand what it means to be a suppor of the club as well and so
For Conor Gallagher he’s had he’s had a decent season he played a lot of minutes for Chelsea AR to do different roles he’s a great presser and I don’t see the difference in terms of ability wise between Conor Gallagher at this age and Jordan Henderson at this age we know
What Jord Henderson went on to achieve under a manager under a stable Club under a manager that knew how to play him he want have to catch Liverpool to win every single clup trophy there is to win I don’t see there being much of a difference in terms of base level of
Ability between Conor Gallagher and John John Henderson I think if Chelsea was to sell Gallagher and he go to a stable environment we could be kicking ourselves if he goes to Spurs like you should probably read into something if if a rival Club wants to sign one of
Your players there’s probably a reason why and it’s not just to get one over on it’s probably because they think he’s pretty good well Chelsea got history signing players to rival clubs if you think about hav georginia to Arsenal you think about Mason M to to um to
Manchester United you think about kovic to you know why that is though because we have no we have no real Rivals I don’t even think it’s that I just think that they got themselves into such a big mess with the amount of money that they spent could for to sell G when those
Clubs come then in for those players they’re like H we don’t really want to sell to you but we don’t really have a choice cuz you’re the only one putting money like if you was to sell georgino or let’s say havit cuz that one was a
Big money one no Sera Club no La Liga Club is going to be able to come in and pay anywhere near that so when your financial situation is desperate you then go g I just want to throw out the hypothetical situation let’s say Conor G Gallagher wasn’t playing for Chelsea how
Much do you Reon Chelsea would have bought him for in the summer 120 I reckon it’ be 60 plus you only have to think back to when he was playing for paliso and how excited everyone was about him yeah and I know he hasn’t he’s only recently started
Scoring goals like he scored at Villa didn’t he and he scored two the other night I think look he’s you need with when Chelsea have had so much of a facelift in terms of all this St and the amount of players they’ve sold the culture that they wanted to get rid of
You can rip all that out but as this season has proven and last season you can’t just expect everything to work straight away so you do need some elements of continuity within the squad and people who understand like Conor gagher come up through the academy you
Need players like that I was I felt a bit um sorry for him as well CU you get a bit of stick for celebrating against his former lone Club I saw some hit I it no do it do it no no 100% celebrate but you could mate it’s it’s aone yeah it’s
It’s insane mov into a flat and renting it you don’t then get like do a sort of like lap of Honor on the way out do yeah no I I don’t understand the stick he’s getting for a lap honor you flat I don’t get he’s he’s really like
Easy to criticize K Galo because maybe on the ball he’s not as technically sound as a lot of other players in the Premier League but he does so many good things and I think that he’s so valuable to Chelsea but the most stick I’ve ever got online is posting a video about
Connor Gallagher saying that if Chelsea was to sell him it it would be basically selling part of our soul and Chelsea fans in particular getting on to me being like we sold better players before like what’s the difference with Conor gallaga and I was like we sold better
Players before we were in a better position we are currently mid-table team we can’t afford to sell Conor gallaga I know that might balance the books but I’m sick of hearing about ffp keep your best players let’s touch on Man City Chelsea predictions this one Cole Palmer
Going back as well should I say cold C what why why did you roll your eyes there Harry back har got something wrong you’re going to do I saw I saw the I saw the video he saw the video that’s that’s Harry’s got he’s like the
Celebration police no no no I’m I’m not I’m not the celebration police at all I just think like he go give it a knee slide or something like what you’re not cold cuz the game before you missed a ton of chances against middles BR so you’re not maybe it was cold
Though it’s warming up man Waring up it’s warming up what running a t-shirt today um City two points Point Liverpool with the game in hands I will say Jakey yeah I think if Chelsea lose badly here they’re in the same position as they were before the palace game M yeah and
If if they lose this game badly and they lose to Liverpool in the Cup Final like I I think pot should stay I think they should stick with him but those questions will inevitably come and obviously the reverse game was one of the probably the best game of the season
That we’ve seen sure so Chelsea have do have uh recent history what you giggling that big mad Andy mildly chilly P sorry love the comments prediction no I think City win I think City win 3-1 personally just because City you’re in that Groove maybe they won’t even
Concede City you’re in that Groove and I just feel like they will play better teams than Chelsea who have a better chance of stopping them and look at like the Liverpool game even when they play United at the Ard in a few weeks I think they’ll brush United aside as well it’s
Just because of how good City are no real reflection on Chelsea but city of the the standard in the league and they they how many games they won in a row lots lots in 20 it’s not H much is it it’s was like 12 no all comps all comps I don’t know
Oh maybe it is I don’t know reg CFC uh number one include me oh there’s there’s a part of me that gives Chelsea a chance of beating City but if it does happen it’s Chelsea a things as it gets oscillating by the way that’s that’s Paul hosting Jake yeah no one including
Me gives Chelsea a chance of beating City oh who sorry re I apologize but that is not English that’s Tech speak but but if it does happen it’s as Chelsea a thing as it gets oscillating by the way what I SC I think it’s oscillating between the abysmal and brilant oh okay
I I think between I think we got that’s says by the way got between that says by the way the word oscillating but then between to BTW that’s amazing I want to meet how you abbreviate um re great comment great comment re thanks for the super chat um
Harry predictions I’m GNA go 41 see Manchester City W Chelsea one up the chelse no yeah you got someone CLI the up just I want to go for a one-1 draw I think op will score I think score penalty um I think we get beaten 41 41
I’ve gone for that as well uh few comments before we kind of wrap up the show we got a few couple of actual topics Talk touch on including United uh someone said Action Jackson hatrick goodness me uh rival fans to qu’s point had an issue with C Jones
Since the start of the year I don’t know how many Liverpool fans are having an issue with with him same with Harvey Elliott these are young players give them time I think you’re agreeing with qu’s point there uh K said pot should have won something with the squad he had
At Spurs between 2016 19 but he won zero and a strugg toate expectation wherever he went because of the expectation should he have won should he won something worse but when when he the FA Cup when they do you remember that Matic W into the top in that was the I think J
Jus was absolutely fuming that I don’t know if you remember that there’s there’s there’s a few League there’s a few League titles that maybe they left on the table but the Spurs In Our Lifetime have not won anything significant that was the best period in their history so I don’t really think
They should hold his time at Spurs against him because they didn’t win the trophy what he did have is he had one of the best strikers in the world and not winning trophy with Harry Kane up top and maybe you can you can hold that
Against him but I think he I think he did a great job at Spur po couple of other games to touch on Bren versus Liverpool we’ll leave that till probably Monday to to talk about but Burnley versus Arsenal Harry I mean again I mean no disrespect to Burnley but if Arsenal
Aren’t walking away with a 3-0 win yeah there’s nothing to say on this it’s a must-win game um away a side that you absolutely have to be beaten if you want to be in the title race so there’ll be no excuses if that doesn’t happen you worried no no not particularly um they
Did play some good football bur it’s weird but that’s not that’s not the thing that will drive fear into you when you’re when you’re a team that’s going to burnly thinking you want to play us you want we’ll beat you at yeah exactly I actually would be you want to go to like
Bolton is Bolton and then you’re like right okay we might get up we seen this story before Sean D is burnning maybe yeah yeah maybe yeah I’d be more fearful um Spurs versus wolves little bit of a not hipsters Derby but I love Gary O’Neal same man same are you are you on
The hype train 100% I saw him on Monday Night Football I heard him talk about just his tactics and the way he he gives information to his players I’m like oh you’re not just meat and potatoes manager you got your very nuance and you
Got a lot too I the British man good me potatoes like I’m saing it I’m grilling it yeah you know the beat potato manager like like I don’t want to criticize here but like Shawn Das like those kind of guys but he is a manager that deserves a
Lot of credit for what he did at B move and I feel like he’s found his perfect spot of wolves the fans absolutely love him and you look at the way that Wolves play in terms of just the style of football and the way they make it
Difficult to to for big teams to play against them I really really like him man I think he deserves more flowers than he’s get I agree I agree Gary Neil Scott doesn’t like definely what you doing this it’s not it’s not like that I think he’s good it’s just you called him
Manager of the Season well Harry said if he was called Gary o’o he’d be that’s what I’m saying Gary o’ is not a meat and potatoes manager that’s that’s a that’s a Pella or something that’s not a meat and potatoes I feel like we’re using meat and potatoes as an insult here no
I I’ve never heard that youed that’s a great line love it me and potatoes manag I love that they’ve lost K yeah big blow big blow but they do have is nit yeah it’s just that Kaa ties everything together really well I don’t know I think there’ll be a drop off with
That I’ve Just Seen A comment before we touch on United uh quu Gary O’Neal to Chelsea next season you heard it here first from Michael S oh um if that’s happened if that happens next season something drastically wrong I love Gary O’Neil but I just don’t think that he’s
The right man for Chon potatoes potatoes finally United Scott uh a trip to the to the Kenworth Road the Kenny the Kenny as how we like to call it um but more away from the prit Dan Ashworth now basically United are facing a fight surprise Dan Ashworth away from ucast
United to Manchester United but it as at the end of the day SC this is Manchester United this is Manchester United and this is an example of the appeal that United could have if you get United right and restore United then think of the admiration that you would get
Nobody’s managed to do it in 11 years um but I think I I don’t think I’m alone here I think there’s a lot of people who are maybe a little bit fearful of saying confidently that they see a brighter future I can say it I I I’m I’m
Confident that we will see a better man united in the next few years than we have seen over the last 10 completely confident of that now we reported like night Min reported and I tweeted it on in the start of December that United won to Dan Ashworth Dave
Brailford and S Jim rackliff wanted Dan Ashworth to come in he’s highly regarded as one of the best sporting directors in the country and I think these moves that United are making the fact that they prized barer away from City at no notice at all nobody knew nobody knew that is
An example of a soundly operating unit when no there’s no leaks nothing like that I know the interest in Ashworth has been out there for a while but the fact that this looks like it could happen pending the compensation these are moves that United are making that are sensible and they
Are putting Jim Ratliff and Dave rsford seem to want to put people who have good experience of working in football at top clubs Ashworth has worked at the fa the England DNA thing that you see now was a lot of it to do with him the style of
Play I know you can say that about G zgate and that kind of thing but but this generation of players that you’re seeing now play for England like people have had a lot to do with that and I think Ashworth deserves some credit for that but he’s worked at Brighton he’s
Worked at Newcastle and he has a relationship with Dave braford as well that goes back over a few years I think uh he was brought in or Dave rails was brought into Newcastle by Ashworth a few months ago to talk to the Newcastle Squad as well so I think they have a
History that goes back uh respect each other and what have I said for so long on this channel United need to put a structure in place ahead of the manager that knows what it’s doing and then whoever the manager is if Eric ten hog is not the right manager fine but they
Will then employ a manager that they feel can achieve and implement the things that they want to achieve we’re not talking about Ed woodwood as a CEO who’s been replaced by now now barard has coming with that role Edward would once said uh we don’t feel that playing
Performance impacts what we can do commercially that is a term that has dogged United for for 11 years the priority has never been winning under since Sir Alex fuson left it’s not been winning it’s about getting in the Champions League making money to take over and just keeping United there
Thereabouts as a force now the money started to run out Jim ratcliff’s come in and they’re starting to put people in place who can operate football a football club properly hopefully and there’s a desire to win I think that’s the big thing that’s coming out of it and everything that they’re doing seems
To align with that so I’m confident that United are going in the right direction the only thing I would say to that if apparently Ashworth does a loyalty to Newcastle United for the move after Brighton uh and there’s also I mean he is as you said he is attracted to the to
The proposition of United people have said though Scott he would be an idiot to turn it down do you agree with that this is Manchester United but is actually it’s more probably for you guys when let’s just say you you put yourself into Dan ashworth’s shoes the you’re
Head of football at Newcastle you got the opportunity to be the head of football at at at Manchester United are you jumping straight away yeah because it’s Manchester United as much as I hate to admit it it’s like they’ve been incompetent for the best part of a decade right now but they’re still
Manchester United when they play it makes the most noise when they win lose whatever it makes the most noise and so and there’s only a few clubs in the country like that I think it’s it’s man united it’s Liverpool it’s Arsenal and if you got the chance to go to one of
Those clubs I think you have to take it because you want to challenge yourself at the biggest club that make the most noise that has the most eyeballs on it because if you are successful at one of those clubs you you’re goated forever and so I can understand why you you you
Look at the prospects of turn Manchester United round and and relish it if you if you think you can do your job to the top level then you take that job for sure I’m not saying I wouldn’t take it cuz I would take it because Manchester United
Are a much bigger Club than Newcastle there’s no question about that I’d maybe stall a little bit though I’d want to see a bit more from the new group at Manchester United before I was convinced that I could make the impact that I should make there and therefore
This will only be a good move for me because if you think about it like has the the Takeover bit even been legally ratified yet has that even been exactly but if he turns it down and waits six months the job goes for someone else
Like he the what the point is that they must have given him enough belief that they’re actually going to turn into you want him that much would you wait one or two months but you can’t make a decision on the manager until you sorted out the
The sport director so you that he’s the first piece that really has to be in play before you do everything else and so they can’t afford to wait they to go gun ho and for him if he wants to do a good job and get off to a great start
Next season he has to kind of make a decision ASAP I get that I just I like I understand I was in the same spot where I was desperate for my club to turn everything around and change it and when you see those shoots it’s very easy to
Get excited by it and I understand why United fans are excited about it I just if I were Dan Ashworth I’m in a good place right now I’m not saying I wouldn’t take it he’s not really though is he he’s he’s up against ffp with or
PSR as it is with Newcastle and I think I I I just think the appeal uh for somebody like that no matter what I know I’m a United fan but the appeal of restoring one of the world’s biggest clubs from the levels that they have been at for a decade that literally like
Ban ter United it’s been that I’m confident enough to say that I think those years will end I’m not saying it will immediately change and turn around and tomorrow or on Sunday United will got to Luton and win 5- nil because they could still lose right but the the
Longer term picture is United will now be running under the the guys of like people who know what they’re doing and you can look at like you can say Jim somebody said Jim rackliff took ni to two Ninth Place finishes yeah well when have n ever won anything now they’re
Second in the league right but ratliffe isn’t going to be doing all simply making the decisions and Dave BR was doing a lot of this as well simply making the decisions and identifying the people who can do the job to put United back at that level it’s just they’re
Setting up the infrastructure for it so it’s not like and obviously supporting with the finances and the the ambition um I I think it’s a big thing I I think the way that United are moving is a big thing and obviously all of this about Ashworth is coming out now and over the
Last few months because they want to start from the summer like if they no doubt they’ve they’ve uh put a lot of a lot of effort into convincing him that this is the right move for him he’s probably looked at it and thought yeah I fancy this but if he passes on it
Or he says oh no I’ll wait the gardening leave delays the the start further you want to be in the united want him in place for the start of the summer and if they to do it properly starting from next season they need people in place
They need barer in for the start of next season they need Ashworth in and there’ll probably be other appointments as well like ahe of Recruitment and other scouting moves and this kind of thing and obviously then they they all have to decide on the manager and Eric tenh hard’s obviously under trial as
Well he’s got to get the team’s performances improved and he’s got to get a higher position in the table than United currently in but overall positive would you take Dan Ashworth if he brought Eddie how with him but they come as a two to though well the chat is that they’ve butted
Heads at Newcastle because Eddie how was brought in before Ashworth and obviously he’s had um responsibilities given to him that maybe Ashworth would assume in his position but obviously has caused a bit friction between is there an argument to say whether he’s the right man who Ashworth I think everything that I’ve
Obviously there’s other people that you could you could employ um but given the brailford relationship that he has and I think the history that he has he’s he’s ready for a step up you not have done that with barer as well I they’ve taken him from a less senior role at city and
Given him the big job of CEO at United so it’s a step up for him and they’ll be working together from what I’ve seen I mean like from the reporting on this people have asked around within the game who who be the first sport and director you take
From this country and this Dan Ashworth like who who reports to Who Do report to Ashworth Ashworth so it would be I I think you’ve got Jim Ratliff who’s going to be like leader of inos and like the big dog that kind of thing brailsford is
Uh I think CEO of inos sport you got Jean CLA Blanc in there as well and they all work for inos then CEO will be Bara uh Ashworth will report into bar and then around Ashworth will be the football structure okay makes sense so I
Think that’s how you do it how long have we been talking about like John Mur and uh Richard Arnold and Ed Woodward jobs for the boys and that can’t run a football club when it’s drops for the boys you got you got to weed that out and and it seems that Manchester United
Finally they’ve got to a point where they’re running like a prop football club because the money is there they’re commercially Behemoth they’re a monster and them and despite the fact they’ve not been great for the past decade if somebody goes in there and fixes Manchester United they’ve got the
Potential to be the biggest Club in the country yet again Dan Ashworth to United he brings Eddie how and Jason Tindle with him you never know we got super chat just to wrap up the show Dan Watson thanks so much mate for the Super Chat listen to his comments on bford in
Previous interviews about the performance culture which he sets admiration is huge Ashworth will join man united John Dy makes the point I think United sorting out the back room is way more important than sorting out the players on the pitch and Luke’s also said that Jas Jason Tindle would come
With him too big man says Tindle belongs in love Island he’s probably the best looking assistant manager in the world actually if there was like a kind of like love island with a slightly older age bracket then you could put tindo there you could put Rob Edwards Rob
Edwards is beautiful to would M artetta get in there maybe maybe there I think pep goes in pep pep goes in yeah does klopp go in he’s had a bit of a glow up recently the new Grand Potter would go in big hit man be a big hit that that
Would be a cracking show who makes you call it night M’s Premier League L that a GL thought that’s we’re going to wrap it up quu what a pleasure mate thank you so much for coming on um really enjoy that today a bit everything you on man I thought it
Was a fun show today absolute pleasure if you did enjoy please leave a like on the way out make sure you check out quu Harry myself and and Scott our social channels in the link in description below subscribe to night Min leave a like on the video and we will see you
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01:52– Start
04:15– Champions League round up (Bayern, PSG, Man City)
25:00– Are Saka and Foden world class?
35:40– What's wrong at Chelsea? (Pochettino, Gallagher)
56:10– Man United and Dan Ashworth
Lazio had a chance to actually go through to the round of 8 but they chose to play the most backwards, defensive, cowardly football after the red card, like they were the ones playing with 10 men. And now bayern is gonna punish them.
What an amazing plan.
You all morons.. Talking about KDB doesnt have those moments.. Are Kwaekoo and Harry dumb?? KDB scored the equalizer against Madrid at their ground.. He then assisted Akanji and Bernado Silva in the return leg.. Against Bayern Munich at their ground, he played Haaland through for the goal where he put Upamencano on his ass.. Dafuq you guys talking about.. Recency and familial bias absolute dominates this panel's perspectives.. Joke stream this
Gryz looks different without the hat.
Just a comment on foden hes started 26 of 29 games played in thr champions league and premier league combined. Bernado has played 21 of 25. So i think the question mark over phil foden being a definite starter is clearly incorrect
Harry got all this chest when he tries big up his players but couldnt say shit when Buvey was on the channel.. Get a City fan on like Big Steve and lets see if you all still run your inferior narratives..
Saka would be rotated just as much if he played for City.. Its a fact, thats how Pep manages his team.. He rotates in positions where he has options and players of comparable capabilities.. Just because Arsenal is over reliant on Saka shouldnt take away from the fact that Phil still manages to shine among a team of world class players and have an impact.. Phil has the accolades, trophies and impact to prove will be classed as the more accomplished player if Saka doesnt pick up big trophies soon
I will be shocked if Newcastle allow Dan Ashworth to be part of this summers transfer window as he knows all Newcastle targets and scouting reports.
Harry over gasses Arsenal players every season. Never learns
That Chelsea fan lmao. Crap ball knowledge and standards. Enzo is your best player buddy, not Palmer. If you don't play through Enzo, you'll never fight for actually relevant titles.
Never a sending off he made a desperate attempt to get to the ball not to make any impact on the player to be sent off for excessive force is ridiculous in the box its a matter of milliseconds upemecano had to get to the ball as quickly as possible to avoid the opposition getting a free strike at goal you can tell the ref and none of you actually played the game at any decent level
KDB has iconic moments! Stop this nonsense. Even just the goal against Real in the semifinal at the Bernabeu last year. Turned the course of the tie.
Well done Kweku. A rare find, a Chelsea fan with a brain.
Almost didn’t click because the thumbnail so different. I miss the boys smiling faces.
Great show !!!!👏🏾
The agenda and saltiness against City is crazy. Just so much jealousy.
Saka would 100% not start every game for City. This is not how Pep operates maybe aside Rodri.
And the only reason Scott would take Saka over Foden is United bias.
De Bruyne had so many deciding goals for city on the way to winning the Champions League.
Take off your City hatred glasses for once and have an objective view or get a good city fan on the show that actually knows facts about our team.
All of your knowledge and memory of city (aside Jakey) is extremely selective to fit your narrative
Bang on Scott neither are WC
Whatever your definition of world class is doesnt matter, there is no definition in which foden is WC and saka isnt
Blah blah blah I love my own team hate our rivals could do this show in 3 minutes bunch of hipster glory hunters
Kweku a class act on the show. Needs to become more of a regular if possible 🤝
My opinion to keep it simple. Both are world class, but people hate Arsenal in this country so say Saka isn't. (Personally I think Saka is the best RW with Salah for 2 years. Foden I prefer him in the center)
Chelsea fan talking absolute waffle about City and De Bruyne. 'De Bruyne no iconic moments in the Champions League'. Go do some research! Scores a worldie in the Bernabau in a Champions League Semi Final. Winner in QF's against PSG. 10 goals and 10 assists in his last 22 knockout games.
Kweku was absolutely BRILLIANT in this episode! Ball knowledge, jokes, banter, and just a nice bloke. Please bring him on more!!!
Foden disrespect is boring and stupid
20 G/A in his last 22 knockout games, what r they waffling about. KDB is a big game player lmao
30:07 Shut that united fan right up, who were calling rashford wc, ballon dor contentder last season
KDB boring…KDB hasn't had "these" moments…you're having a laugh…he has soo many moments that you are taking them for granted
The Man City related chat on this was disgusting. Just go back to ignoring city like you used to if you’re going to be this lazy and disparaging. Another football show going down the drain fast, shame.
KDB is and has been performing in the biggest games in CL lmao, u forgot him dominating against Madrid and Bayern last season? All u have against KDB is him getting injured in the finals, that’s literally it lmao his numbers speak for itself, he clears most midfielder that have ever played the game. Pound for pound he is the most effective attacking midfielder the game has seen bar Messi
I little bit of research never hurts. Foden started all but 3 games for city. How is he not trusted or a definite starter?
Saying foden isn’t world class because he isn’t trusted is beyond stupid by people who doesn’t understand pep as a manager, he plays people’s for the game he plays, foden is all out attack, when you sit back against a counter team you need a grealish to keep the ball and to track back against a Madrid who attack you play foden in the small gaps, it’s very simple to understand
KDB is probably the best midfielder in the world right now and hes fresh off a treble. Insane how he gets overlooked.
As for Saka v Foden. Lads its very simple, Foden is a generational talent. Again its the city bias working agaisnt him. Its either Foden and saka r both world class or Foden is world class and saka is getting there. It cannot be both.
Saka isn’t 1 of the best players because he doesn’t score enough goals. World class it’s over used.
Kweku is proper chels. A great representative of fans!
if Saka puts the same numbers at RM he's world class … so basically playing in a weaker league in a better team makes you world class … good analysis … top
90min Manchester City haters
Foden is amazing but he’s a luxury player as his never been The Man at club or country. Saka is and does it week in week out.
Proper meat and potatoes podcast
Do you think a Premier League All Star team would beat a Europe All Star team? Who would you have in each team?
What are you talking about. You will never find a Liverpool fan criticizing Curtis jones. I’ve seen supporters of other clubs criticizing jones but Liverpool supporters have been almost delusional with their support of Curtis for years
Foden being more talented is a myth btw. Clear wonderkid tax. Saka skipped u21 class and went straight from u18 to first team. There was no hype around Saka but Saka way more talented. Saka is better at receiving and operating in tight spaces, better at combining with teammates, better deliveries and more creative. Foden & Saka both exceptional talents but the public discourse on them is so so wrong. & I am a Barca fan btw
Harry: Villa was never EPL contenders as they never been in a race.
Also Harry: Arsenal is favourtes for CL
Saka is better than Foden
Anchelloti doesn't have what Harry mentions and yet is a damn good manager. Everyone is different.