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Chapters:
0:00-2:36 Intro/Degrees
2:36-8:57 Origin Stories
8:57-13:34 Starting The Pivot
13:34-15:09 Choosing UF
15:09-17:35 Catching Rabbits
17:35-18:36 Prizepicks AD
18:36-24:39 Going to Florida
24:39-36:06 NIL
36:06-42:03 Current State of Gator Sports
42:03-48:42 Justin Fields
48:32-55:00 A lot going on
55:00-59:52 Channing’s foray into comedy
59:52-1:03:38 Playing another sport
1:03:38-1:06:37 Segregation Bowl
1:06:37-1:09:01 Best Athlete at UF
1:09:01-1:10:19 Culture shock
1:10:19-1:13:01 Majoring in Basketball
1:13:01-1:17:21 Run in with Coach Donovan
1:17:21-1:22:10 The monster y’all created
1:22:10-1:23:46 Advice to college athletes
1:23:46-1:30:38 Advice for the OGs
1:30:38-1:31:04 Conclusion
I just I thought if you got disrespected you had to whoop the person’s if you call me a agree I’m gonna punch you in the face I agree We are back it is the OG’s and we got a show for you today yes sir it is youf stand up in the building today before we get rolling though and I introduce Our Guest how many diplomas we got on stage today I’mma count myself out of this one I’m out FR
Damn we love y’all youf we gave y we gave y everything we had we appreciate y’all hey that’s crazy that’s a hell of a setup M bro they used to sell it all you did it two years at least I did four oh hey two that’s right yeah sir that’s
All you need to do I I got the four pack I did that mean y’all do that good damn slide baby mik we had the slide look I think um I I can speak for myself um graduation wasn’t at the top of the menu
For me I mean I went there while I went there I was trying to play ball I came from where I came from and that doesn’t mean necessarily um I couldn’t achieve to get a degree like I I wasn’t necessarily always focusing on I did
Enough to get by the play ball because I felt like that was my golden ticket right which I hit the par I made it happen you know what I’m saying so but I’m working I get I get get back I do classes here and there I got two classes
Left Fred I do two I do two and I ain’t going to do them Fred I’m going to be honest I’m going be honest I got this thing where at this point of the game I got I ain’t got no degree but I got a lot of people that work for me with
Degrees and I got smart people around me ain’t no point of me going back doing them two classes hey now that we got now that we got that out the way our guest today one Fred Taylor absolute Legend man done it all um going to be a Hall of
Famer this year we know it we looking forward to it man y’all tighten up that’s right tighten up appreciate it and Channing Crowder man you guys have done an amazing job I want to touch on that cuz now you guys are two3 of the pivot we look up to it we’re trying to
Do the same [ __ ] y’all doing right now and uh we appreciate y’all so we want to start into the pivot has 140 plus views on YouTube 12 million plus listeners on the podcast Elite man for real that’s that’s that’s some Elite stuff we we obviously give me the backstory check it
Out check it out I know how y’all know each other obviously but you know Ryan you know what I’m saying how how did all those that three you know you three group of guys come together how did y’all know it was going to be a good mix because everybody don’t go together
Everybody everything don’t always work I say I I do the front I do the front no fredd I do the front first time I met this mother the first time I met this mother he hit me in my back yeah which was a preseason game I knew about Channing I
Read the stories I I heard he used to walk down University in Gainesville in front of the purple ppit in the swamp mhm with all his shoes and his shirt I knew he was crazy that was part of that was part of The Scouting Report damn so pre-season that’s part of the Scout
Report that was part of the Scout report that’s a great Scout report he crazy as hell Scout crazy as H they say he’s a wild man he’ll do whatever he can make plays and he came out of college early um so we this preseason August me uh not
Even a meaningful game no so we go out there we down here in Miami and uh I run a place to the left this mother hit me in my back he falling down H Square in his back preseason preseason ain’t no reason to do it but I knew like I saw
Him tearing the Dolphins ass up for years y’all see now FR I got to be honest with you about that now godamn you to up seven days a week and twice on Sunday you know I get that all the time down here but that I digress that’s a whole different conversation
But he like damn and they showing they showing highlights of Freddy growing 75 80 on for years Fred old as hell so it was years and years before I got in League Fred whooping so I’m like damn but it go deeper than that cuz Fred don’t even remember when Fred was in Jacksonville
And it would be big weekends in Gainesville and I was the the life of the part like he said I take my shirt off because when you find you got to show off the got yeah for sure you know what I’m saying I got I got the Florida
205 I was 240 about 8 months you know TS dreads I had to show the women what I got so I would I would even wear old shirts to the club because I knew I was taking them off throwing them in the corner cuz I’m about to be
Naked but Freddy used to come from Jacksonville on big weekends when like people perform you know what I’m saying Pastor Troy was a big Pastor Troy back come down Troy ain’t no more playo came down uh Wayne was there one week and so Freddy would come from Jacksonville and buy the whole
VIP and be there for about two hours and then he leave the whole VIP to all the ball players that’s still there and leave bottles everywhere believe 15 20 bottles for us and he then he’ be like hey y’all got it and walk out so that’s
What I knew that’s that’s when I first met Freddy even though I was just a college student at Freddy Freddy used to come down from Jacksonville and show love to us so I always loved him and then when I got in the league and got to
Really Vibe with him that’s when me and Freddy but [ __ ] me and Freddy been cool for 20 plus said you said thank for the bottles pop hit you in the back you said thank you but you it’s a video though Fred I hit him what I hit you I called
You a [ __ ] a couple times but then I helped him up Hey listen I [ __ ] Mike up the first practice too yeah he did we still that’s my dog but he tried to dunk on me no dumping you already know how that go the par you can’t dunk on nobody
Around at the park yeah you can’t dunk on that that’s my dog but I [ __ ] him up I him hold on I want I want to say this real quick part of what Channon is telling you guys I don’t know if y’all remember when y’all won the first
National championship I came back it was a club across the street from the the big Club in Gainesville the I actually set it out for y’all too just to celebrate just to Fred when I got to gamesville I ain’t I ain’t know very many people but the
People so Miami High about three of us signed to go to Florida for Miami High only me and Brent made it my homeboy still ain’t make it but when I got the UF you know what I’m saying it was it was it was kind of separate it was
Basketball and it was football but I remember you being one of the first dudes that kind of was accepting of everybody know go to college campus basketball football play don’t get along they fighting over the same girls all that kind of [ __ ] you know how that [ __ ]
Go but when I got there t was like he wasn’t on that it was like it’s all love like it’s cool that when you had to go you know what I’m saying it was chill cuz you was with uh Brent and M you show love Javon Cur all y’ boys show love
Like it was never that little beef like that you know what I’m saying the players they get playing time of football except for when you stole that man girlfriend that’s when the [ __ ] started that’s when that’s when it started back the beef had we had settled the beef the [ __ ] was
Over here come here come [ __ ] from South Dakota I took this man girlfriend who he’s currently married to now so he wasn’t bullshitting he was serious he was serious about her but he took the man old lady the man want to put hands on my Michel
Shooter sh and she was literally and she was literally shooting with him in the gym we’ be going to the club at 1:00 a.m. he going to the gym with this girl and she rebounding I said I got to get me one of those I I got to give me one
Of those I never like that crazy behind y’all cuz David Lee oh yeah remember d d was me and da da Le walked up to me at Club one time and I’m shooting at this girl and he pulled me to the side he was like bro that’s my lady see I said bro
It’s all love damn and I SL but you know I was just [ __ ] Sho the shoot tell everybody tell the young boys out here now bro don’t talk to one girl all night you talk to 10 you going to get three numbers and them three numbers you going
To hit two of them listen I had I had I had a thing in college listen we had a colge in college every number you get 66% every three numbers you going to hit two up did the the club used to close at 2 right when we was there yeah I had me
And my homeboy me and my homeboys had a thing the club Clos at 2: we can’t give up till 3:30 we got an hour and a half to make it work you got an hour and a half to make it work sitting in checkers
Sit in check you got an hour and a half to make it work you got 30 you got 30 minutes to parket lot pimp you got an hour to shoot your Tech if it don’t work you got to take your ass the bed get ready for class hey so how the hell
Y’all start to Pivot right so I’ll let Freddy do it CU yeah we so all this me and Freddy been cool for years we was tight we was on the other show we was over there with uh B Marsh and we was on the uh IM am athlete and then that [ __ ] went
Downhill and then after that I hit Fred I was like Fred we got to run this [ __ ] back yes sir we got to run back not to be H it’s too good we saw we saw that like we thought we were behind what was it the Club the what was the other
Podcast um wallow and Gilly them boys made out game like we saw we saw what it can be and we’re like damn and we just we we roll so fast and we were like this [ __ ] is special like people need this they need this they call it alternative
Media that’s what it’s called like different media where it’s player driven is you know what I’m saying we don’t need that’s a new one we that killer alternative media alternative like we don’t need nobody telling us hey hey Mike what do you think about the three-point shooting of the Ravens whatever that
[ __ ] we know how to [ __ ] talk to each other so we did this sh lock room so the alternative me so we saw work and then once we left as soon as soon as we left I hit Freddy and I was like Freddy we got to run it back and Fred was like
[ __ ] it let’s hit it we got Alicia zubowski who was a part of the old podcast and she got like 12 em she work NFL films Alicia dog so we had it was me Fred and Alicia and we like we need a third and I knew RC through Joey Porter
Who pey was down here so me and pey used to be in um what’s that little strip club on 119 [ __ ] onth uh [ __ ] they CH every every Friday we used go to Coco me him Randy St yes sir I don’t want to call out too many people but we used to
Be in so me and pey was cool so py introduced me to the whole Steeler Nation and Steelers is a tipe so him Troy SE Hamp um uh all them goddamn Steelers pot footy all them Steelers so I already knew RC from there and we knew
What RC was doing ESPN we knew what RC was doing in the media and RC was on the last podcast one time and we saw like you can see how he is and we like he was on that dwade episode on Dade episode so we was like bro let’s hit our
CNC so then I called him one night on FaceTime we talked for like an hour and a half hour 40 outside I’m out there burning and RC don’t do nothing yeah RC square like he don’t drink don’t smoke need people you need people like that R you
Need RC is very is that why you around that’s why I keep you around for sure cuz I’m going do all the smok for both of us that’s a lie so then we grab RC and then [ __ ] took off yeah we probably about a [ __ ] like a day or two after uh
They FaceTime RC flew down Alicia flew down we got with the attorney Johnny and what we said from the gate was we learned from our past mistakes and the past mistakes was we didn’t necessarily button the business up before we got moving and um that was that was like
Priority so at that table we had breakfast on L Solus and at the table we said all right business first this is going to be the structure we’re going to do these percentages so it’s five of us that owns the pivot yeah we have our in-house attorney Johnny Williams and
Then our in-house producer Alicia who kind of she’s the go-getter like she helps in production edit clean up everything uh contracts you know uh uh camera people just everybody Alicia handles all of that and a lot of the booking as well and then myself RC and
Chanting we’re the host but we also book like you know reach out to people we know relationships we have to make sure we can get particular guests on the show so once we said all right this is going to be the paperwork this is the structure we’re going to have the pivot
Trickle that down to our own entities to pay us and distribute the money accordingly once we button that up everything else became easy cuz we a have to worry about it cuz that was in concrete that was solid unlike the other situation so when we decided to to make
That step everything else was just sweet and then we said we’ll meet in New York which was two two years ago so 4 days ago was actually the time we dropped our first show you know what I’m saying now we probably 200 shows and 200 something
Yall haven’t checked it out go check it out the pivot man it’s fire I love it why youf cuz all us could have went somewhere else yeah we already told we already told you have four stor how we get there obviously you could Miami were popping Florida State were popping you
Know what I’m saying obviously your grandmother I hated UF growing up me too you know what I’m saying UF I just hated those colors at first man cuz my high school was closer to Garnet and gold than you know orange and blue yeah so for me it was
I was a fan of Miami being that close like 50 minutes away from um but they recruited me as a linebacker my sophore year I played linebacker so when they recruited me I was like you cut it out man you want cut it out cut it out cut
It out Freddy be Hall of Fame running back FR got to send y’all a picture of him in high school this [ __ ] was built like lawence like a tank this [ __ ] me he send me he go show me a picture one time he be like hey hey crra I play
Basketball in high school what was I doing I’m on the top left this [ __ ] yoked up like he got to tell me where he is and the rest of these [ __ ] sitting there th looking all anemic I said I know where the [ __ ] you are Fred was you were reclassing before they was
Reclassing was you look bro n you reclassing you w reclassing back there was you that [ __ ] could live the Florida seven years that [ __ ] was yed up a drama King man but no I was um I I was definitely probably I was probably bigger than everybody but you was faster
Too no I was I was in high school I was 6 feet 212 and I ran a 10 200 met in like a 425 yeah and then when I got listen was you cuz I used obviously they talk about all this and I see that’s me right there
Cut the rabbits with your hands n that’s the craziest thing though like people do that for survival at the crib yeah you know whether it’s to no hold up hold up that ass you thought I [ __ ] go catch Rabb this is crazy right this is crazy
So with they bare hands killer it’s 15 16,000 people at at my hometown right on Lake okobi there’s a sign when you come in town say her soil is her Fortune we grow any and everything so when they burn a cane majority of the sugar that people consume in the entire country
Like 60 70% is produced in BG so when they burn it Fields people go out and Chase the rabbits right or catch the rabbits two means to sell it or to eat them to survive like like that’s just how bad it’s pirate stricking like BG is
Tough but it doesn’t mean that um they they they they’re on the bottom of the food chain when I went to New York a couple weeks ago right by the ESPN Studios there’s a nice ass like timeout type Cafe type District up there and they got [ __ ] rabbit for sale right
In delicates for like $ 20 $30 [ __ ] a pound which is crazy yeah I’m like hold on people go you come to mug you can make a killing but now uh never chased rabbits my grandmother she didn’t play that okay uh so I was I would be in the
Field riding four-wheelers my neighbors four-wheelers and [ __ ] but uh and just hanging out there all day running just doing stuff but I never chased rabbits but that is it’s true Adidas made a commercial yeah I seen about you know the rabbit chasing and stuff and the myth is that’s how we get
Fast that that ain’t true that’s what they say they say that’s how you work on speed now I want to touch on you hard work is how you get fast you know grinding is how you you put it together just said delic contestent look at
Him he does got money hey he got money but it’s it’s the truth I I I see I don’t even know that word I went to South Africa you see the people in shanty town that eating sheep Tong cow head or sheep heads they say that’s
Their delicate I know I just ate a raccoon the other week what the hell what my son killed his first raccoon up in Georgia H yeah we went hunting I got we going we going to touch cuz I want to touch on you being raised byet raccoon
You do I eat them don’t eat my pet raccoon I ain’t [ __ ] with that Mike let him get in my house watch I ain’t [ __ ] with that if Patrick Mahomes strolls for more than one yard in the big game you win on prize picks prize picks is the most fun I’ve had winning
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Florida how’d you get to Florida cuz that was right when Steve sper yeah was on his way out to the to the commander you could went to Georgia Auburn all these schools up your way sp sp recruited me my um I actually Tau my ACL four times in high school damn really I
Had 4 acl’s and still and still was all americ 4 ACL still all American damn but uh uh so my sophomore year crazy story I was at I was at the big white school I was at the big white school you know they bring the the [ __ ] from the hood
Up so they bring [ __ ] my hood up so I was at the big whiteo and I was a running back in um on JV and I was a cornerback in Varsity so I was a running back one time I had like 320 yards rushing Roswell High School I call them
[ __ ] out they don’t care rosille high school in Atlanta I had like 320 rushing I had one touchdown there was a dude named Tim Mau who had like 60 yards rushing four touchdowns every time we got in the Red Zone they get the ball to the white board it’s
Like the Varsity Blue know go every time we get the red every time we get the red zone they get to B white boys I go from the 20 to the 20 and then they like yeah hour left I’m like [ __ ] I done R 60 hour now they give to white boy so
Really it was a game like that and my mom she was like we’re leaving here so the only School in the district that had a blackhead coach was North Springs High School which is a Magnet School for Math and Performing Arts Usher went there Raven Simone went there I actually shot
At Raven when she was young of course she did and she she iged me and it hurt my feelings and then I found out she like was she what you got it was personal she it was personal like she didn’t she didn’t like what I had you know I had she wanted something
Else she like what we like yeah you got a eggplant a wrong with that I ain’t got a peach I got I got a plant it is what it is but it was a point so I had I had to pass the test and all that stuff so
Then I go this performing art school and then so spur starts recruiting my junior year he called me he was arog in his [ __ ] spur one of the only one of the the big the conversation I remember the most was that he said called me and um he
Said hey Crowder yeah um we’re doing a national championship next year with or without you but I heard you can help that’s exactly how he talked he was like yeah you know you can help and I was like I kind of got the phone cuz I got
SMU all these little school kids in my ass and spur was kind of like ah so they was still on the list kind of if you want to if you want if you want to come you can come yeah you can help us out yeah give you a helmet and pads and so
Then he uh he goes to play for the commanders now I’m I’m getting used to that the Wasing so he leaves and go so that’s my senior year so as soon as he leaves to Washington you’re committed at the time not to Florida what’s that no
No no I’m still I’m still wide open I’m visiting South Carolina what I been South Carolina North Carolina state with Chuck Amato who had that same little [ __ ] voice just like per um North North Carolina State South Carolina Florida Georgia and uh somebody else what kind
Of voice you have he little [ __ ] voice hey there Crowder are you know like godd damn man pull your nuts out what’s the Bas of your voice drop let’s you can’t talk about my coach bro who that spur spur was a Spur was a dog he should be honest he should be
Honest he A og for real y’ had Billy G on I would love to get SP get SP come on leg I watch on we ain’t going to have Nick sain on here we ain’t doing that he bring Nick on no man he did I been waking up in the morning
And Nick said he wasn’t leaving I woke up in the morning Nick H ass tuscal loose I say [ __ ] I was on the team I know you was we going tou on that I was mad as hell I want even get into that we going to get into that later story right
I’m sure he’ll tell you how you get to Florida how I get to Florida so I I want that story though at at some point we going get to it so I’m um I’m n spur leave so it was really in my mind I’m visiting all these places I went to
South Carolina if you ever been to Columbia South Carolina there no place for a black man yeah ain’t nothing there so I visited Columbia South Carolina and me and my mom s water I’m like this is not a place for me cuz I can’t I can’t
Be here you know it’s just it like [ __ ] on the tip of their tongue yeah yeah I’ve been there before I’ve been there before yeah it’s right there on the tip of their tongue so I’m like I can’t go to sou car North Carolina State
They a really have much going on so I visited Georgia and Athens is nice and me and Ricardo Hurley while we was there one of them little white girls let us use their car we riding around and we seeing how Athens is so I end up committing to Georgia oh spur left too
So I’m like I’m going to ug I’m up there with Mark R hanging out Boss Bailey Tony Gilbert all them boys up there and then zook gets the job so long story short then you just got to be your nil package up Florida uhoh Z gets the job uhoh uhoh
Uh Z gets the job in Charlie Strong who was the coach at South Carolina he was the DC of South Carolina I was going to South Carolina play with Charlie yeah so zook gets the job he gets Charlie to come to Florida and Charlie convinces me
I went to Florida to play for Charlie Strong I didn’t go to play for ronook I love Ron talk to this day but Charlie Strong was there so I end up going to Florida to play for Charlie Strong or he just he convinced me to take a visit he
Was like take a visit come down here you enjoy yourself man I walk down there frat row all them little white girls with the ba suit sitting on the side of the road you riding down that [ __ ] they stone crabs everywhere steaks everywhere I didn’t bro I didn’t I didn’t eat a
Steak a real steak till I got the gamesville I we at Cube Stakes yeah yeah you know what Cube Stakes Cube Stak but big flat out [ __ ] hamburgers and you f them up with t like nothing bro I thought a steak was a cube steak and I ate my first [ __ ] steak in
Gainesville and I had my first stone crab then I got a little money in my pocket and my mama got to explore and I was like [ __ ] we got to hey we might need to reevaluate this Athens thing and that’s what got a Charlie Strong and the
And the alumni base back then them explorers was the [ __ ] but that’s the thing it’s funny I had an Explorer too the goddamn the N now is so funny that people run from that and now they get the [ __ ] millions of dollars but a [ __ ] get a $30,000 truck back in the
Day and your ass can’t do nothing crazy Millions yeah Millions while we while we’re on the top what do y’all think about the nil and the transfer portal and the whole [ __ ] that’s going on all that [ __ ] think um I think they got to
Find a way to clean it up I think it’s the wild west right now and that’ll make a break a a program you know a lot of programs going to struggle because they can’t compete you know being able to go out there and get get get the money so
You can’t necessarily stop people from earning wages but I think with um certain protocols in place they can create like a a a um like specific guidelines maybe to cap it per player um it it’s wild I some guys have been using the portal to leverage n money I
Don’t think you those two shouldn’t be able to go I’m with you I think the transfer portal needs to be that that they got to figure that part out before the nil the nil is not going anywhere figure not only but it’s a trickle down effect because you got people that like
These memorabilia companies you got one player that’ll go let’s say to Florida for example and then they’ll go print up x amount of Jersey and shirts they offer these signings like they’re thinking is this player is going to turn into something so now they want to catch them
Early before they develop and now that creates more value on that particular product right but as soon as this player say nah I ain’t happy here I’m going hop in the portal and go to Georgia or Bama or Michigan or whatever what happens with the rest of that inventory they
Take so that portal is kind of crazy I think it should be something like if you do hop in portal you can’t get more nil money you know in that same year yeah they got to find a way to make sure these kids understand um when you commit
To something yes you got to at least ride it for at least a year or at the bare minimum but that that part is tricky that part is real tricky totally disagree with that FR yeah I mean it’s a [ __ ] free market nobody’s ever overpaid what everybody anybody will pay you something that’s
What you’re worth because they felt you as you’re worth that much money you give these little young [ __ ] a million dollars that’s a million dollar you thought they worth a million dollars give them a [ __ ] a million dollars that trans reporter a lot of [ __ ] are going to run when they get adversity
Yeah and that’s the thing Billy D was talking about I watch y [ __ ] that what Billy D was talking about like you have to work through things you have to figure it out bro have y’all y’all coach have y’all coach y’all ain’t been out there y’all a coach kids nowadays these
[ __ ] he pudding pie I don’t want no part of that what they’re pudding pies they are so sensitive they’re upset they get called I coached uh high school for four years I got called to the goddamn ads office all the time hey you talk to CJ wrong I said what did I
Say well you said he was soft I said the [ __ ] is soft he can’t even stop the run you know what I’m saying like but it’s a different kid so the kids that are going to transfer are going to transfer and they give them an out to it and leave
Because if you balling you’re not going to leave and the development side of it and all that stuff I understand that and that’s how you win if you ever look at these schools that are really winning like Michigan One Michigan yeah that little boy was his name McCarthy that
[ __ ] was at Michigan worked his way up got good and bald the [ __ ] out and won a championship you can’t bring in the Russell Wilson and those guys are just come in one year and win the championship but that [ __ ] is far few and far between transfer portal is I
Don’t like it but it’s for it’s for the [ __ ] that want to run from adversity nil 1% of the 1% right why can’t you let these kids make a million dollar $2 million $3 million for their family yeah earlier than what we had to do we had to
Take care of our family when we got to the league we was already in the negative when we got to the league bro that’s um we was already in the negative when we got to I remember when you told me you when I we first got in the league
I was like mik you have to take care of your people he’s like no I don’t have to take care of my I thought that [ __ ] was crazy when he said he didn’t have to take care of his people when he got in the league I didn’t even understand that
Cuz when we get the league oh we got a list of [ __ ] we got to right take like we already behind the eight bar when we get in League yeah killer got in the league and he was let me focus on my future and and generational
Wealth [ __ ] I’m trying to catch up with the people that I got to take care of early we already in the negative that’s that melanin yeah we already in the that pigment that pig that pigment make you watch out for more people yeah Mike ass
Oh no it’s fine I’m good I’m I’m good mom and D you got [ __ ] Bo that’s crazy he said he had to take care his mom and daddy I said what now I got the [ __ ] boy you see my mom has a great job I said what I
Was like what the [ __ ] you don’t have to take care of your mom and daddy real good marriage I didn’t even understand they been together 15 years they love each other huh I was like what I just want to clarify to this day my daddy and
Mama see each other and cuss each other out been the boy 30 years look at this [ __ ] look at this [ __ ] they was called you at your birthday party though was you at your birthday party you might not remember but they was C
You oh Bo I was tow up I was to up he was leaning too hard but no just to clarify really quickly earning power make as much as much money as you can what I’m talking about is double dipping and using the the portal for leverage
Like I don’t think that’s a thing that should be allowable what where you get Brad over here and and and [ __ ] on this this team and then be able to jump in the portal and go get money here so make it more professional you contct you play for the Dolphins you
Can’t Dolphins until you’re a free agent but you can double dip in the league I mean but that’s a rare occasion but we watching kids that have we watching kids that have been fouryear starters that have no reason to transfer that have been all Americans fouryear starters
That have led their program and to go transfer somewhere else and play somewhere else it ain’t because of planing time it ain’t cuz you sitting behind somebody you literally just left that school cuz you know they got more nil money for you I think it was a quarterback that left somewhere I think
With the USC um was one of the top quarterbacks in college and he had a great career I think he was at Oklahoma or somewhere he left and he going somewhere one of these guys I don’t want to misquote it but he had a great career
M so why would you leave a great situation you was a leader you was a head of the snake to go somewhere else for your last year those are the things that are confusing to me and the second thing is the kids that are coming out of
High school why would you even draft why would you even waste your time on a high school kid now when you can just go in the portal get somebody that’s ready to rock that’s what coach Prime said he said uh recruiting out of high school is going to be a lot more challenging
Because now you got all of these people moving around in the portal where you can go and get a proven player from another school versus an unproven player the difference is how long will you be able to um uh uh coach that player for example that’s like NFL free agency like
You can get somebody that’s proven versus somebody coming out of college you get a proven veteran for for cheap especially if he’s older because the team everything the game is about leverage yeah at the end of the day so if you get a veteran guy who’s proven versus a younger player who’s basically
Like a stock with potential cuz my problem with Jack well what I had with Jacksonville was they would tell me well this guy there’s potential that he can turn into this player versus what you’ve done I’m proving yeah like like Apple stock like I’m proving that
I’m those and I’m going get it done so it gets kind of that gets sketchy where I don’t I don’t think um high schoolers will have the same luxury that they once had back in the day cuz now you got to develop them some going to shirt it’s
Tough though because I can I can only talk on the basketball side of things like you better be a dude for me to recruit you in high school you have to because I’m just for me speak on the agent speak on the agent speak on the
Agent speak on oh yeah he is oh he got damn near as many jobs as you we touch get that check every Co every coach though is going to protect their three and a half four million job yeah right and and the reality of the situation is
If I can bring a 23y old in here I don’t care if he’s not as talented as a 18yearold he’s going to be he’s going to be humbled he’s going to be he’s going to be have a routine habits he’s going to have all that stuff in place he’s
Going to be he’s going to give me a better chance of winning correct that’s what’s that’s what the struggle is but what what you said before is like now you’re on that rat race every summer though or every fall because you got to feel that roster every time because it’s
Turning around it’s not four year players or threee players or twoe players what’s the old ass quarterback at Georgia What’s his name ain’t he like 30 that them seven year them Seven Year guys that that’s that’s that’s crazy but it’s like it’s the old prop the old prop
48 what the hell that [ __ ] a seven year seven senior what they let [ __ ] forever I think he’s 26 yeah he got come come over us you old listen I’m the youngest dude on the cuz I watched y’all and y’ old [ __ ] got to understand you got the oldest face you
Old [ __ ] got understand every every action got a reaction go to class every action there’s a re there’s nothing that happens you throw that [ __ ] Pebble in the goddamn leg and them ripples go that Ripp going to hit a leaf the leaf going to hit a tree everything has a reaction
What’s going to happen now is that back in our day it was 22 to 25 scholarships a year that you can give to high schoolers to Y to y’ to y”s conversation now they they holding back so I’ve talked to a college coach recently that’s like we don’t have 22 a
Year we got 10 Dam so those extra 12 and if you start adding that [ __ ] up amongst all the schools there’s going to be a bunch of guys that go to lower tier schools yes so the Kies now now that three star Freddy what was you you you w
No five star what was you the [ __ ] wrong with you ug rabbit chasing listen I’ll be honest I might have been a three star might have been a three star I might have been a three star Prime I want a three star dog other than a five
Star I used to eat five star [ __ ] what I’m sayar undrafted and now it’s Jersey getting retired but I’m saying so those three star OB Ed re Ed re re was a three star you go through was that so those three star guys those guys that you want to
Bring in develop red shirt figure out what they got so they have talent those guys are now going to go to to lower tier d1s or d2s or d3s and everything’s going to move down I just recently talked to Coach about he’s like man everybody talks about a transfer portal
As D1 to D1 we got to go find those guys that are developing down here to bring them up here the problem is like now all a sudden all you’re doing is down there is those mid major schools all you’re doing is grooming them things to leave next year anyways to leave
Reaction what about are Jo going to get those guys that weren’t there every action has a reaction and it’s going to be on the coaches and the universities to figure that [ __ ] out and there a lot of [ __ ] that had these cushy ass four five1 million jobs sounds like
You was a part of this yeah that now y’all [ __ ] got to work harder because it’s it’s a it’s a it’s deeper than what it used to be that’s what it is sound like you one of those yeah get your ass out got [ __ ] Bo what the hell
You have a [ __ ] boys I know how your parents talk oh Mike’s a great guy great kid he’s amazing oh we on we on we on the portal we on college sports and we on all that right now the current state of UF Sports now obviously we all Gators so we going to
Spam but are we happy no I’m not I’m not no no I mean cuz in the NFL you know we’re not necessarily in the locker room well we got a lot of homies we we we deal with a lot of people that play definitely instate yes down here in
Miami you got to hear the [ __ ] from the um fans cuz they gotten better we to the we going to take all bets knowing godamn some of these bets we supposed to walk away from so now everybody run up on you you and my and UF play each other next
Year and they running Up On You Crazy oh we what’s up what you bet and what we got Florida has underachieve both basketball and football sir the sports we’ve played yes baseball was close they lost the LSU in the championship and other sports you know they’ve excelled
But football which was the Crim Dela Crim right and then you guys and then you guys wion the Championships and made basketball go out there uh it goes back to nil and recruiting recruiting has always been like the one staple that will determine if you’re competitive or
Not and then coaching from there but you got to get the players if you’re not going to be competitive in the nil Market which we have some some slip up where we didn’t pay the money and we lose some players and you never know what you’re going to get you know with
The players like to draft you never know what you’re going to get but you got to at least shoot your shot you know what I’m saying to go get some top guys and I think we have gotten some mid-range guys yeah right and and no disrespect to the
Players that are there cuz they can develop eventually but um I don’t know if you’re not competitive in that market uh what coach came out and said quarterbacks are like $2 million a year now wait a you’re not going to get in that wait a minute right yeah yeah thee
All the history of last game who only played one game this year and it was a bowl game is making $167,000 a month but the but with with the history of UF and years and the the the business and and the alumni and all this why can’t youf
Keep up with that but the thing is when you looked at when you look at like back in the day somebody they got some alumni I ain’t put my money in years can but think about it the whole thing just some years ago not too long ago some years
Ago Florida Miami and Florida state was the big three in the state yeah USF UCF fa FAU FIU they start S developing teams uh getting better teams developing players guys realize we can go anywhere and make it happen guys run out of state they go out of state they want to play
Now you don’t have to go to the big three so we started losing a lot of instate talent to out of state and then the smaller schools in state that was d1aa now so when you lose was those type of players that would have come and been
Backups it make you a little bit less competitive on the front end so I say that part of it losing players to a lot of other smaller schools in the state and then guys running out of the state not being competitive in the nil you know that certainly hurts the product on
The field and we haven’t been good at all like really good in a while I mean at Le football you went to a basketball game recently what what’s your take on the basketball it’s the same thing though what he said like he Brown who’s one of my favorite coaches he said they
The best like [ __ ] X and O’s give me jimmies and Joe’s right if you don’t get the players I don’t care how good you are as a coach yes sir like that and so to me so me you know coach Golden’s only been there for a hot minute we’ll give
Him some time but it’s been disappointing for a while now yeah right like we have a the same word you guys had we have a standard when we left there it was like if you weren’t doing you know tournament sweet 16s final four like that wasn’t that was yeah it was it
Was unacceptable and the same thing for y’all y’all like if you ain’t doing this and competing for Anna every year that’s that’s unacceptable and so yeah I mean at the end of the day it’s no one’s happy with it in my opinion because it’s just not where we we’re supposed to be
Yeah and football-wise and I hate to say it cuz I’m a defensive guy football you got to have a quarterback nowadays that [ __ ] went from 17 10 games to 45 38 age like it’s where football going and DJ lagway that little boy out of Texas that big big ass [ __ ] 63 big pretty
[ __ ] 3.8 GPA like that’s the future think about it TBO yeah warful if you think about naal CH to your point Mike national championships we had all American quarterbacks and that’s what the leads going right now the boy McCarthy just won it you go back the Alabama’s winning they had all the
[ __ ] first- round draft at quarterbacks you got to get a quarterback and that transfer portal if you’re balling at a school you’re not going to leave at a quarterback if you’re starting you’re not going to leave yes and that’s the thing when they bring in merch last year nothing we
Always got I do this [ __ ] a thousand times on the pivot I do whatever no disrespect to these kids the [ __ ] is not that good because you had to leave another school to come somewhere to try to be good to be honest if you’re a quarterback I brought the
Names up there was like Russell Wilson left what he left North Carolina State went Wisconsin whatever was like there there are a dime a dozen that can do that bro you have to bring in a quarterback start him young develop his ass and make him a All-American National
Championship quarterback and if you look at the teams that do it that’s how they do it and that’s what the problem in transfer report and all the stuff we talked about already that’s what Florida needs to do I hope lagways ass I’m going to go talk to this spring man cuz I go
Cuz they I got a uh I got an award on the spring game Freddy got an award too okay uh um I got the head I got the head bust award Freddy got the Freshman The Freshman offensive player award that they give out in Spring and we go to the
Spring games and I’m going talk with him and let him know like you have to do that that’s what you have to do bring in the guys develop and all that recruit is what it is but you have to bring in a quarterback develop that young [ __ ] and make him a dog and
That’s how you win in that’s how you win in NCAA right now yeah quarterbacks that’s I love I love I love that you brought that up because you know one of the things that you know me and Mike talk about and I talk about with a lot
Of people even though I don’t play football is Justin Fields I’m a fan I’m a fan I’m a fan I understand that he’s had some rough goals but I’m a fan I think DJ Moore I think K yep you know what I’m saying I think they got
Something to work with and I also think if you go in in in draft you might be looking at another three years to develop somebody maybe who says that you know I think they saying Caleb whims who says that that’s going to happen right away and my opinion the best version of
Justin Fields ain’t got that yet but we’ve seen flashes and the flashes that we’ seen name a lot name a couple other quarterbacks in the league that can do what he can do when he’s at his best version he up the grab bag you can pull
It up there there it is what what what what’s y’all take on on Justin Fields like y’all think okay we we scra that we start over or we stay with that I I stay with that I I say a question this ain’t a question from UD this a question from
Astr 30 no but yeah I don’t even know who the H I don’t even know who the hell that is that is a question for me cuz I’ve been having that conversation with lot of people and I stay I stick with that I’ll come closer to home this year T right L the
NFL and pass and L the NFL and all what you to say what you fa to say man what you say cuz it’s a sensitive time right now what you f to say man Tu was getting replaced by Ryan Fitzpatrick damn for his first year with Brian Flores and
Chan gay Chan gay is [ __ ] 117 years old Chay Playbook is written in chisel damn you bring that [ __ ] and give him to a Young quarterback so to your point about uh about Justin Fields bro you have to match Justin Fields you have to match a Young quarterback with
Somebody that’s gonna maximize what he does put him in Cam Newton’s 2015 offense with Cam that’s who that’s who Justin’s very much like is Cam Newton put him in an offense like that these [ __ ] want to fit a round a round peg in a square hole this is my
Offensive [ __ ] work put him in Lars put him in put him in put Justin I was in coaching I was in coaching for a hot minute and I’ve said this it’s what you just preached on coaching is coaching is not a system or style it’s Personnel like if you’re Co if you’re a
Coach and you give me a dude that doesn’t do certain things and you stay doing the same [ __ ] you’re an idiot yeah right right like to me if you’re going to be if you’re a great coach you can coach any system or any style it’s all Personnel driven it’s not it’s not a
It’s not a system to me because like you said it was written in chisel well that ain’t changing it because guess what this worked for him and they paid him for years and years and years so don’t change that’s the same thing Brock p in
In in San Fran put Brock p in another system Brock p is not an MVP candidate M you know what I’m saying but Shanahan system Kyle Shanahan’s a [ __ ] genius and Kyle’s doing exactly what you do Kyle said oh damn Brock you pocket yes you I’m going to do exactly what you
Want to do and that’s what they doing with Justin Fields they’re not putting him in the best situation to win that [ __ ] is a stupid a I had a chance to speak with with the Bears one time and you know what I’m saying as I was speaking everybody was paying
Attention and I actually watched him I watched him because he was the youngest dude in the room he was probably more focused than anybody on the conversation that I was having is just about being a leader and Leadership so I know he’s invested I know he’s invested he didn’t
Owe me he don’t know first of all half of the [ __ ] ain’t know me because I’m old and he probably definitely a know me cuz I’m old as [ __ ] but the ones that did know me was paying attention but he was more locked than in anybody so I said that I pay attention
To [ __ ] like that I said okay now we this kid right here wants to be good you know what I’m saying cuz a lot of times when I come in you don’t know me and I’m old I don’t play that much no more I got three championships but [ __ ] a
Probably how you got three that’s right talk got but he probably wasn’t watching me play so a lot of times you know how the young I get [ __ ] be y’all be finding me up on Twitter you know they be firing me up cuz I don’t play that
Much you know what I’m saying they got all the jokes so I’m think this [ __ ] going not be paying attention yeah you do I was at games last year listen you was down there with me [ __ ] we might as well drink a beer together Hey listen but remember
Remember I came remember I came on the show and I said I still got something and you say come on now you say [ __ ] I I got I a highlight I one one more one more example one more example of this where we talking about Josh Allen Josh
Allen his first two three years wasn’t [ __ ] then Brian dball got a hold of him made the [ __ ] MVP candidate and now Brian D ball left brought in Ken dorsy and that [ __ ] play started going down then they brought in Joe Brady who took over and now Josh
Aden looking better I’m telling you man systems got to match the quarterback they do there are guys like d Marino and John Elway there some [ __ ] put Patrick Mahomes in any [ __ ] place you want to he going make it work there’s those guys but there’s a second
Tier guys that have to that the OC and the coaching stff have to make them work to y’all point about basketball Braun MJ them type [ __ ] but put them in any goddamn but you know the thing about playing with a bron or MJ everybody else got to adjust correct everybody around
Them and I tell people this all the time it’s a great thing to play with LeBron James the greatest player in the game but there’s a LeBron James effect that trickles down to the guys that have to play around him you might have to change your whole game or or your you
Understand if you can mentally and physically and emotionally accept that role what the what the what the what the high is going to be you’re going to be at that level yeah you’re going to be at that level but that’s what great coaching is like you you you make
Adjustments you talking about changing the game plan you might have to change your entire coaching philosophy in order to cater towards your player strength Co I think Caleb Williams is a once in A- lifetime type Prospect but I also think the draft is about acquiring draft
Equity and value they got the first pick you know how many picks they got number one and nine se you know how many picks they can get for the first pick I mean the the Patriots uhh they got successful in the second and the third and the later rounds they became great because
Coaching was great they had their quarterback they didn’t have to touch those areas and they built around that I believe Chicago can do the same thing they led the league and defense this year so defense seems set they might want to add a player or two but from a
Offensive standpoint maybe you look at lineman yes I’m sure there are some big some great linemen out there that you can get in the second you know mid to late first round early first mid to late or uh mid to to late second round so I would probably trade out of that Acquire
Draft equity and then look at the Players I can build to make Justin better because he’s a hell of a talent and I would look at probably changing my OC or uh bringing somebody in that can cater towards his abilities what’s his name Andy Reid he made Alex Smith great
Talking about systems Donovan McNab when Vic went to Philly then he get Vic he’s done so many great things with his quarterback because that makes him a great coach coaches got to be adaptable and being able to adjust like that so we’ve we’ve talked about your guys’s UF
Days our UF days talked about where y’all at now seems like y’all got a lot of [ __ ] on on the plate right now [ __ ] seems like ain’t no seems like it is ain’t no seems like they do how that’s a lot of [ __ ] going listen you ain’t got
Time for nothing but work and going on naked vacation you ain’t got time you ain’t got time for nothing else you ain’t got time for nothing else he said he did the math I Ain even SK in my pool in Southwest Ranches how you got all this time to get
Naked man you got to enjoy life man it’s uh it’s you know what how many jobs you got first before you start I can’t even I can’t we going to respect the hustle cuz I love it love and like I told y when I see y’all man I
Don’t get a chance to speak to Y but I’m paying attention and it’s inspiring it’s inspiring it’s inspiring do I love to see it you know what I’m saying we done seen enough losses we done lost homies we done lost this and lost that I want
To see people win I want to see my homies win I want to see my [ __ ] win I want to see my people win so it’s inspiring to watch what y’all doing dog I love it y’all inspired us to obviously get into the podcast space but just talk
About everything you got going cuz you got a lot of [ __ ] in you too Fred you just recently got involved in the soccer team right talk about that for a little bit you don’t mind yeah it was an opportunity that uh jumped out I go back to relationships yeah you know uh
Someone I know uh Ricky Kaplan in Jacksonville um big- time CEO sold a lot of companies a hell of a person he reached out say look I have this opportunity we’re bringing soccer to Jacksonville MLS we’re going to do a uh men’s and women’s team and uh the women
Will be a D1 team basically and uh we want to get you involved on the ownership side as well as as an ambassador and this is what we’re going to do for the community they talked about Youth Development you know inclusion inclusion inclusivity uh bringing white black other together the entire Community uh
And they talked about travel leagues uh just a bit of everything man and then they added Tim TBO who’s another Gator so knowing Tim over the years and I know what Tim stands for what he’s done with his foundation in the Philippines local in Jacksonville how he gets back they
Mentioned Tim would be a owner so for me it was easy and and the beautiful thing was the paperwork was was was priority I go back to always paperwork ownership so uh for me that was the easy part being the face of Jacksonville getting involved being able to get back to the
Community in that capacity there was a no-brainer it doing standup comedy yeah man do you’re touching everything now I got to get credit I talk a lot of [ __ ] and I got jokes but it’s different get on stage and talking that [ __ ] I don’t I
Can’t do that before that I got to tell you that’s what I said earlier Freddy T does a lot of [ __ ] behind the scenes y’all know what sha knew is what that [ __ ] called that you called me man she knew this dude talking about crypto it
Was a long time ago it was years ago was a minute ago I know remember that Co this [ __ ] called me three in the morning cuz Fred stay up with the China Market that’s how I am you like that so he stay up with the China market so
Whenever somebody call me at 3: in the morning I be scared like godamn [ __ ] got locked up I got to go get him out I pick up know in the FR like bro you straight you good bro buy sheu I’m like what [ __ ] bu Shea enu I’m like Fred I’m
Sleep bro I got three kids like okay whatever man that [ __ ] skyrocketed over the next two weeks hit know he made bread so fr the the Fred D is more behind the scenes but to get to my stuff man it’s um when I retired I got I was
Very complacent I got the radio show hawman the Crowder one of the top Radio Show in South Florida Sports Talk and but y’all know how it is like you sitting there with millions in the bank yeah and it’s like why why do I need to work keep working like I worked my whole
Life [ __ ] I was riding my bike at 12 years old to school to make it and make it and I made it and then [ __ ] done gave me all this money to play a kids sport like so I had all these millions and I’m just comfortable doing radio and
Then to be honest my wife snapped me out of it about [ __ ] I’ve been retired 12 13 years so it’s about four years ago she snapped me out of and she was like just like you like use your talent yes you don’t got to invest money yes use your
Talent yes and so that’s when the the um podcast [ __ ] took off that was three years ago three and a half years ago pod pic and and it was just sitting in the pandemic she was like man you sitting you you can man the room so easily like
Why you can get paid to do that and it’s something that L Duvall told me it’s something that Desi Banks told me it’s something that Chris Spencer told me it’s something that all these comedians told me um [ __ ] there a bunch of other ones uh that that like when I’m around them like
Bro you’re funny but you giving this [ __ ] away for free yeah like we get paid to do the same [ __ ] you’re doing right here at this [ __ ] Dolphin game you sitting here have the whole people you’re sitting there doing it so it’s the comedy thing it’s where like now I
Had to maximize and figure out the logistics of how to make this [ __ ] work even cooking like you talking about the crow powder [ __ ] yeah yeah yeah appreciate y’all you know uh available you know say go [ __ ] with everything right available over early February crow.com where my camera at you know we
Got to do it but even that like I love cooking I love entertaining I love having [ __ ] to the house and and [ __ ] off and then they like well man you got all these season let’s put it together so it took me eight months to formulate that and really get with a
Spice lab dude and use the connection that you have and the dude with the [ __ ] that I got with was a Dolphin fan so he’s like bro I just want to help you out he was like you want to make a seasoning let me help you out and
I’m like yeah so I’m like what season do you use and I brought him all the seasons I use and he was like well there’s garlic and powder this and that and there’s brown sugar and this why do you like that cuz it got a little sweetness and all so like I really
Started using my connections and using my ability more than my money everybody that got money wants to use money to make money it’s like [ __ ] use your ability to make money use your talent to make money y’all hear that young fellas I love that I love that just don’t
Invest everybody wants to invest in some [ __ ] and I got Investments now the the black rocks and the infrastructure stuff and I can go deep deep deep but real estate is crazy not right now real estate was crazy a couple AG all that but recently I was
Like you know what I’m I’m going to make money off my natural abilities and that’s when the comedy show the comed on tour for the comedy right now right so we did one in Miami which uh which was yeah Freddy there which that was the first like tester run so now we’re going
To do February 24th you a group of people or is how how explain it’s the headliner so a lot of people were like when you do comedy you you open for people okay yeah and you do that so I started talking to comedians they were like yeah if you open for people they
Going to shoot you a 500 a grand I’m like how much they making they were like [ __ ] they probably make 8 10 grand hey they shoot you five what like they going to shoot me 500 damn I said [ __ ] I’m a headline like I got to go
Headline so that’s when I jumped out the box in Miami Improv and just said [ __ ] it I’m I’m going go and try it so you just jumped in like that did an hour 15 in Miami yeah so that’s the crazy thing though like let me let me
He’s just a natural no doubt like he just hop on the stage and do the same [ __ ] that he doing now and everywhere else like all this stuff you see him Channing is the star to Pivot like you know we all got roles but Channing is the star we’ve all all all have
Acknowledged that every time the pivot goes viral it’s because of this [ __ ] and and it’s just it is what it is and we we don’t we don’t have we have pride but we also understand that our show does what it does because we’re all selfless like we know you
Might get the shine you might get the shine you might like we don’t give a [ __ ] who get the shine but we just want the show to do great but he’s definitely the star and a lot of the stuff he does in his standup is just this [ __ ]
Just telling his story and his experiences so and obviously you got to make sure you kind of you know have a timeline to kind of build up to it and he did such a great job and I was there like man I heard these stories and this
[ __ ] is funni each time and a lot of stuff that he didn’t even give him like we heard was like man when he give him that they going to go crazy I’m like I hope he did that because that’s even funnier than that so he just a natural
So uh I think for him and when people understand and separate it’s kind of like watching um your favorite athlete turn into an actor sometimes it’s hard to separate because you over critique them but when people start to understand that this is just naturally Channing cuz
They always say Chan going Chan and wait for those moments when they go when they go to the show they’re going to realize like damn this [ __ ] is really good like it’s just in him so man I had a great time at the Miami Improv and I
Can actually vou to say wherever he goes and if he’s in your city like go check him out you won’t be disappointed what city you going to I’m pulling up um right well right now is Fe February 24th is locked in Daniel and PR y’all got to come
Out got to come we show it’s locked we got two shows that night and then we going to move around Florida we ain’t got it’s going to be Tampa Orlando Jacksonville uh Gainesville for show I’m trying to in games I’m trying to get the [ __ ] the the the the center
Where the [ __ ] y’all play what’s that [ __ ] called I’m trying to get [ __ ] ok I’m trying to get the I’m trying to get the old in gamesville [ __ ] mik get that he paid for it this [ __ ] here I’m saying when when you have send them little
Donation cards to your house how many of y’all sent some money back n dime y’all got ask him what he if he s some money back Mike you send money to them so let’s talk about your stand up send money back who gives money back
Who gives it back who gives it back [ __ ] I I would say with the radio show with the pivot now Inside the NFL on the cwm at night love that you know RC put us on with that even keeping your face clean with people yeah you know what I’m
Saying that’s something fredd Freddy I keep face Freddy taught me that was like bro everywhere you go go walk in and be good because you kept your face clean and that’s what that’s what I try to do like I kept my face clean everywhere so all the opportunities I have in RC got
Me the opportunity Inside the NFL but um I would say just like it’s a a Jay-Z song was like y’all y’all taking advances me and my [ __ ] Taking Chances yeah like take a chance like if I went Miami Improv and bombs yeah Desi Banks
Told me he was like BR the check as soon as he was like as soon as you walk on stage check [ __ ] we take a chance now I’m going put you on the spot let me hear something go up there let me hear something let me hear
Something you put me on the spot for the OG’s jokes [ __ ] don’t do no knock knock J no knock knock jokes so don’t give me knock knock jok I ready for this let me see that’s right you said take a chance I’m going put you on the spot so so like
Um so women are funny because they always want to question like they always want to talk [ __ ] about us getting hard right they always want to talk [ __ ] about and that’s the whole joke is that [ __ ] can’t get hard little and all that [ __ ] but look at at Mike at this moment the
Beauty of the of our show the pivot is when you’re supposed to say all right we got to Pivot we and get away from this conversation don’t fall into that’s the beauty of the name on the show let’s pivot we got pivot cuz this boy right
Here is crazy I got to Pivot real quick all basketball players think they can play football and all football players think they can play basketball now I could get out there and catch a slant real quick can y’all [ __ ] hit a jump shot this is the thing oh okay when
He start this is the thing this is the thing when he start this is the thing you said he played basketball in high school well he said he was Sweet n i I wasn’t sweet oh now you going to pull back I was sweet I accept by being a
Role player it’s about doing what you do good I was Defender I was were you had self- awareness I was Defender like put me on the point guard I’mma check him but then I’m going get rebounds I’m but I was looken defender or or enforcer cuz all football [ __ ] like get on the
Basketball court and beat [ __ ] up all the [ __ ] I played with that went to Miami High that played football when football came to basketball they were beating my ass look that’s what they job was [ __ ] him up I was I will never claim to be a great basketball player even at
Youth in high school I was suspect I didn’t grow tall enough to be what I thought I could be so no I could never play on y’ level not on our level no no I mean because it takes what it takes it takes the hours we saw what you did at
At Fort Lauderdale Beach the dudes who thought they can run thought that [ __ ] was a game I don’t know why they played I don’t know why they tried me like that I went out there to work out they start talking [ __ ] one thing basketball players going to do every basketball
Player can shoot regardless of the position y’all can shoot better than the average person so no I could never play basketball on y’ level on the college level I barely made the high school level so no I can’t do what y’all did I was great at football football was what
I did and that’s it I don’t claim to do nothing else and this garbage ass [ __ ] he definitely with them knees he got a Kenny Smith knees you do got you got bad ass knees he he ain’t got no shot he can’t shoot look at his hands his hands
Raggedy let me ask broke up let me ask you I I tell you this I got played two two basketball games got kicked out the first in the Georgia um High School sports when you kicked out of a game you missed the next game and my coach told
Me bro go run trap he was like yo ass this that basketball [ __ ] I can’t drible I could dunk and I was like oh [ __ ] I can get up there and dunk just athleticism but I tell y’ [ __ ] this this is a say in Georgia it’s a say
Among football players football makes a bunch of basketball players yeah because you get out there and get your ass caught on that SL you talking about catching and get that [ __ ] helmet cross the side of the head You’ be like no [ __ ] I like to shoot I like
The D [ __ ] you want your shoe to slip off again you want your [ __ ] Suter slip off again I can’t do what y’all can do I can catch a pass that’s about it I can catch that I would be an elite flag football player Elite if you can’t get
What position killer oh wide receiver no we just talked about that the other night we ain’t talked about that other than that Steve lodin Ed mcaffrey and Don BB the only wide receiver about the kid no killer we can’t do that you going be a block tight end man with
Aoy can’t give you it again the game changed though the game like it ain’t no knockout shots like y’all going to always be tight ends or DS most basketball guys I thought white guys no no I ain’t just talking about white guys white guys play receiver yeah [ __ ] besides Don BB Ed mcaffrey
Steve Cooper cup say bad [ __ ] Adam you know what I’m saying U them godamn unicorns mcaffrey tough I name MF you know I mean no his dad his dad his dad was a bad [ __ ] I named them that’s five Fred T bro that’s five I mean majority of remember they tried to
Sell us Jason seor playing cornerback was nice n Sehorn was nice seor was unic how many came after that he was the last of he he said the he said the bar it ain’t Beena we got guys like that so we recently had Char menal on the show yes
Right he talked about the um the black versus white the segregation Bowl yes black players versus the white players instead of the Pro Bowl right and uh uh damn uh what is it uh will comp she going to be 100 she going to be 100 bu busting with the boys going be 100
Everybody Drew their their rosters the white roster the black roster and where the white roster fell short was cornerbacks they say we would deep ball they ass all day the black team would but they could play zone and all this other stuff they got some great players
TJ watt you know uh uh the Bosa Brothers they got the quarterback but we got quarterbacks in the whole thing but yeah quarterback is one of those positions they would have told Mike to gain weight and be a right tackle not even a tight end not even a tight end n
Buten you got K you got the white boy KN you got some white Detroit you tight end killer don’t let this [ __ ] fool you manist the position of tight end right now the position of tight end is in the transition used to be just Kelsey now
You got Le you got you got uh the kid McBride from um from the Cardinals the tight end position killer don’t [ __ ] on the tight end position right I’m saying I can do that except youit n Mike I think you Long Snapper Dam yeah hey Elite Long Snapper leite Long Snapper
They played 20 years regie Roby 20 years that’s crazy that’s crazy you n I’m Brian Cox that’s who the [ __ ] I am [ __ ] everybody I’m Brian [ __ ] Coop if you Ain with the do if you ain’t with the dog [ __ ] you in the horse you Road
In on I’m Brian Coop listen me you would have been a great teammate cuz i’ would be hit [ __ ] in the back too and then when you went to help him out I slapped your hand don’t help his ass up you got catch a [ __ ] sometime the black
Team going to fall short on kickers and punters you can work for 20 years a big [ __ ] you work for 20 years big fat [ __ ] in Pittsburgh checks to checks you make a million dollars a year for 20 years checks to check [ __ ] that yeah give me that job speaking of athletes
Though there’s another question in here I’m G PIV it one more time best athlete outside of yourselves during your time at UF I say Javon curse that’s a no brainer a too many [ __ ] like he could W up in whatever the freak is conversation cuz
He wins every award [ __ ] man I had a couple though I I mean I play with Ike hilard redell Anthony Iz green load you know what I’m saying like we had a stick when I was there so [ __ ] that’s easy for me what about you Chan
[ __ ] when I was I was a little down year but man God damn best athlete you know what I’m saying that that that that championship team with Cory Brewer Joe Kim no joim who else was there uh Pete Al horer Al was there Anthony Roberson was
There was good out man was there uh c catric f on was a monster uh [ __ ] kiwan Ratliff was a dog Gus Scott Ratt Gus Scott that’s talking about youf all be all Amic got off on the set BYU was a bit bro we used to get off on
That set by Chick-fil-A and there was all Americans walking around saw it looked like McDonald all and all America game walking around the set and nowadays you walk at that [ __ ] and you who who are you again you big [ __ ] y’all know you must play yeah M say You must play
You’re six y know AB was a quarterback right AB was was a quarterback AB came in the year after me so he’s a quarterback coming out of uh High School and Coach spur we about to play Florida State and Coach SP asked Alex look just going and Rush against Mo Collins
Resling peace Big Mo um he said go give give Mo a look so uh Alex got down at DN and just was pass rushing against Mo and he was giving Mo the business when we got ready to play Florida State and Coach spur like wait that’s his real
Position AB gain weight and they put him at D end in the rest of his history he had the all time all I know is my my freshman year every time opposing quarterback Dro back AB was sacking his ass that [ __ ] was crazy I’m telling you that man was
Unbelievable yep I mean I just remember coming in obviously and like I said the the the hype going to the football games you remember walking down and going to those football games and how you can hit at goddamn stadium and all those fans I mean for me I’m like you that was a
Culture shock I ain’t never seen that many white people in my life no for real I had never seen that many white people I never seen like the camaraderie and everybody collaborating for one thing like that’s just never been a part of my upbringing so just like you I was in
Shock and I was overwhelmed my first couple couple weeks and months in games but they damn sent me home my grades was dog [ __ ] like you know what I’m saying I was just overwhelmed by everything that was going on around me you know what I’m saying you got black and Cuban in Miami
Right I got up there I started seeing white women and they were looking good too I like godamn this is [ __ ] I used to watch on TV you know say then you got to talk to them and they giggle they giggle at everything yeah yeah that [ __ ] was
Scary cuz I had never talked to the white girl hey how you doing yeah like I’m fine hey guys I had an unbelievable time here today what listen he didn’t have to talk to nobody what’s his phone number he didn’t have to talk to nobody
It was easy for him yeah he I didn’t have to talk to nobody no you didn’t have to talk to nobody man you had to talk to one girl and the man would have beat you up and I threatened his life and you was after that you was Lo Mike
Was Mike was a versin the gang I don’t know if he was a virgin but what I will say is he locked in from day one he he list listen he was listen he was very Focus he was very focused on what he wanted he
Was he was he was aiming yes he was very Focus get out of there the whole go yeah list when they asked M when he major in he used to say basketball back then they would sell it this is a foot they was called it football cuz that’s why Freddy
Them left and Ike and all the boys were leaving his Juniors bro when you go to Florida they’re like hey you’ll be here two three years and you about to go to the NFL that was my goal there when I went to Florida was like I’m going bro I
Took social dance three times I took bowling I took tennis you took bowling social that [ __ ] I can Fox try [ __ ] you want a fox TR [ __ ] we like bro it was it was but they used to it was a sale there like you got to
Be here two two years 48 months and you about to hit it whatever it is 4 yeah I mean oh 24 months let me see how good you m what class did I fail at UF oh [ __ ] no I forgot but you did fail the class class music listening I did
Too music listening music listen music listening was a hard ass class so [ __ ] that that was a hard class music listening was a hard class coach no [ __ ] bethoven music first of all the problem with music listening is you had to be you had to be an attendance you had to be in
Attendance and guess what was a problem for me attendance what was it early class yes it was one of them 7 A.M man listen Mike Ain give a [ __ ] about nothing all he wanted to go to the gym was shoot is shoot that’s it class time Club time
Lunch time party time this [ __ ] just want to go shoot that was it he was a real gym rat before I knew what the [ __ ] a gym rat was I was a fake gymrat he was a real [ __ ] gymrat they had to fly my brother back from Australia to
Walk me to class yeah he didn’t give the [ __ ] listen my brother was playing professional 11: a.m. class was 11:00 a.m. I got to be to the gym to shoot that was his class that’s all and that’s why when I gradu well I didn’t graduate that’s why after my four years
Was up I left him to go live with Mike cuz I knew what I wanted to do want to be just like him basketball I left you up I literally the last day of my last [ __ ] class [ __ ] graduation and [ __ ] everything else I left and went to Gainesville I packed my
[ __ ] and I went and stayed with him did cuz I wanted to do exactly what he did I knew what I wanted to do D y’all did y’all have Krueger at all or just Billy Billy Billy I couldn’t play for Krueger no disrespect but I couldn’t play for
Krueger Billy came down to Liberty City Brent had bullet holes in his [ __ ] mailbox three fingers liquor sto that was owned by my coach Billy came to the hood and got us wow and we had a relationship with Anthony Grant who was assistant coach Anthony Grant went to
Miami High with us Anthony Grant well not with us but he went to Miami high before us he from Overtown real Hood real you know what I’m saying Chang the program coach Donovan was real that Chang the program he was like 30 years old too you had to run with Coach didn’t
You coach Oh Billy yeah yeah I did it was after my I think my first arrest in Gainesville your first how many you had the first time I got locked up uh zook gave me you know the stair Master yeah so I got locked in so I had to be at a
Ster M I had to be in the in the in the wait room at like 6:00 a.m. for it was like 2 weeks and I had to walk 5,000 stairs they were trying to you know what I’m saying like it’s funny I always say it’s three things you got to have in
College you got to have good grades which I was a [ __ ] scholar like National leing I left Florida with 35 like school was easy to me you got have grades you got to stay out of trouble and you got a [ __ ] ball you got to
Have two of the three and they going to [ __ ] with you if you start if you start losing two your ass is gone and that’s what them D they get when somebody get in trouble and then the next day they say they’ve been dismissed from the team
I know they didn’t have it was one of other thing they were sorry or they couldn’t B like they’re sorry or they have good like you if you get two or three they [ __ ] with you that’s true so I’m getting locked up but I was all
American and I had a 3.5 so they were going to mess with me so Z like you know they got to punish you in front of all the other teammates and I’m walking 6:00 a.m. doing these damn stairs and I like I’m I’m I’mma say I’m arrogant so like I
Will do it fast like [ __ ] y’all y’all ain’t teaching me nothing [ __ ] I’m going get through these stairs I’m walking easy huh so so Billy D walked up he was like uh and everybody know what happened when I was in jail there were security guards at the jail sliding
That’s when they came out the the night I got arrested the next day the preseason All-American team came out and I was All-American so on the front of the Gainesville Sun it was my picture so the the guy while you’re in jail the pro the the the the [ __ ] Pro the
Probation office whatever they C this those [ __ ] in jail whoever they are these [ __ ] are sliding the page and a Sharpie under the door of the holding Cale to sign so I’m signing the front of the Gainesville Sun in jail the day the preseason allamerican team comes
Out and I’m signing it and so I’m walking so everybody knows I I can play ball and I’m sitting there on the step master and Billy D walked up to me and he was like what were you in for first of all oh [ __ ] that was the first time first time was
Misdemeanor yeah first time wasn’t that bad that that’s the second time was felonies that’s when I could have done a long haul first time was mis just all I did was fight like everybody listen I wasn’t beating no women or selling drugs I just I thought if you got disrespected
You had to whoop the person’s ass in front of you if you call me a [ __ ] I agree I’m going to punch you in the face I agree that’s that’s why bro my whole thought coming from Atlanta my thought process was if you call me a [ __ ] I
Have to now punch you in the face and we have to figure this out as men I agree and the alas County Police didn’t agree with that sentiment that’s what that’s why when I got all this trou people talk about it was all whooping men’s asses
Because they get drunk and they get a little excited and I got to whoop your [ __ ] ass now agre and I know UD is going to agree with me cuz I heard about UD and I kind of I kind of when you left I was holding in you gave me the
Torch come knock a [ __ ] out if you want listen ain’t nobody come here to tolerate disrespect I respect everybody I love everybody but man ain’t nowhere in hell I could tolerate no disrespect [ __ ] and all that we don’t play that and coming from Atlanta and coming to
These Florida boys the Florida boys like to call people names and then they think they could walk away if you call me a [ __ ] you’re not walking away I’mma knock your teeth out goddamn so you’re knocking dude’s teeth out you’re in jail you sign knocke I’m sign an autograph
Billy D is sitting there I’m walking 5,000 stairs Billy D walked up to me and he was like he was like hey you need to stay out of trouble but he he he said he was standing there and the the stair Master sits high so I’m up stair Master
Ability sitting now he was like hey man you know you got stay out of trouble I was like man you know and Billy D was the [ __ ] president of the gamesville like you know that’s Billy D so when he walked up I’m I kind of tightened up look down like goddamn he was
Like but you I wish a lot of my players had what you have in what what you have in you I wish my players had because he’s watching from afar and he’s seeing how I play and he’s seeing my dedication he’s seeing how like when I was in that
Facility I was in that facility and it kind of get back to when I left the fac and I think it hurt me in the league and it hurt me in college too I’m going to do my job but when y’all cut me loose I’m a wild animal again in the
Forest yeah and that’s why like as a 40y old man now I sit back like my wife even asked me was driving last night and she was talking about it she was like do you regret some of that stuff you did and I was like as a 40y old yes I do regret
The [ __ ] I did but as a 19y old you don’t know any better mhm we don’t know any better but it’s the monster that y’all created no doubt mhm I set in meetings with Jeremy Foley and Bernie mck yes and Ron zuk and Charlie Strong
The president I mean the um the head of the alasa County Police the president or the head of the the Gainsville police and they’re sitting here and I just got arrested I just got out of jail and they’re sitting here trying to figure out a way that I don’t have to miss the
Tennessee game because we play him second game of the season and if you go back and look I got suspend the two games I missed the first game and the third game because we played Tennessee second week Tennessee game wow and as a 19y old I’m sitting there looking at it
Like are y’all do y’all want to punish me or do y’all want to figure out a way to win football games that’s what it is and so that’s the thing like and that’s the and it’s called I’m going write a book sooner or later it’s called the monster that y’all created cuz I
Wouldn’t like this one as a kid listen as I started playing football well after after you see it and after you see how they value you and what they this pedestal they put you on because I can go out here and if a [ __ ] runs left I
Can go knock him down yes I can knock him down 10 out of 10 times yes oh well thank you so much oh [ __ ] that’s all I got to do and they create that like that the the societ the sports Society the sports realm creates
That in people and I was a part of it and now I’m kind of getting out of but I’m really not because people still kiss your ass to this day y’all [ __ ] retired you know y big ass walking somewhere rules the thing that killed me
Bro is that [ __ ] want to give you a discount they’re like hey no don’t pay for that shirt Crowder I’m like give her a discount she’s a single mother of sex my millionaire ass doesn’t need a free t-shirt czy [ __ ] is when you get his money now they want to give you
Discounts and all that yeah you make millions and I [ __ ] want to give you a discount [ __ ] you should have gave me a discount when I was struggling Atlanta with these as6 on when I was getting my ass whoop in high school don’t give me a
Discount now come back but I wore A6 in a vas in high school that’s how I [ __ ] with people I had some e- wings Yu e- wings I had some U y’all had some U Ain’t nobody I’m the only one had some some Patu I had some Pat uans but I
Think what you talking about is and we’ll touch on this and we’ll shut it the the politics is that’s the first time we learn politics because what’s important is it important to win or is it important to to teach me the you know the right things and responsibilities or
Is it important just to play who you want to play regardless of you want to win because sometimes you got your favorites and that’s who you want in the game understanding that like Freddy T said I’m Pro but you want to play this dude so I think understanding the politics and I
Think where we come from that was hard for us to understand cuz all our life it was the best man play mono [ __ ] imano you lock the door whoever come out this room that’s who playing yeah and then when you get to a certain level you understand it ain’t like that no more
Right it ain’t necessarily about who the best a necessarily about who coach all it’s the politics and [ __ ] started coming in play and there’s good side of that [ __ ] and there a bad side of that [ __ ] the good side of that [ __ ] is ain’t no rules for Playmakers [ __ ] like me
And you you you ain’t no rules for us we kind of get away with a little bit more more than most [ __ ] but the other side of that is that [ __ ] don’t really prepare you for how it’s supposed to be because when you get to the NBA level everybody’s a [ __ ] playmaker
And everybody can [ __ ] play yes right you know what I’m saying but that that goes back to the uh the nil and the transfer portal conversation cuz some teams or some schools bring players in from a political standpoint if you’re the higher recruited Guy They’ll do
Whatever it takes to get you in they’ll go to for example if it’s Florida the bullgator the people with the Deep Pockets to bring this player in and now they got to play you yes we had Charles Woodson on the show on a pivot and wood was talking about we asked about Tom
Brady cuz they were teammates and at that time I saw that they brought some other people in that they had to play before Tom because he was supposed to play the political side of it when Tom was clearly better yes but at the end of
The day who got the last La I remember that can you quantify you know Talent versus the political side of it that side of it for but in college cuz that you got to deal with the [ __ ] I hate that side of it and some guys get swept
Under the carpet because they got to wait their chance all because money money speaks I hate that side of it so nil money talk you know so it’s it’s it’s um it’s crazy and it’s unfortunate but I would suggest that um any players that come in you got to be patient you
You got to believe in your talent you got to continue to to work behind the scenes nobody was was nobody ever became amazing or great that didn’t work behind the scene you talk about him being a gym rat M people don’t always see that Drake made a song you wasn’t with me shooting
In the gym that just translates to you ain’t see me working you know what I’m saying when I came up man they they used to call me runt I was the smallest [ __ ] in the hood right and then eventually one Su I just went out I would uh uh see
If I can run around the whole town like it was like 5 six miles I just wanted to do it and all those boys was better than me I was on the sideline garbage they was way better than me and then I would just try [ __ ] I go to the gym remember
Those shoes that had the heel oh yeah the the the platform the platform I would just go and jump and all that cuz I wanted to out jump them I wanted to get faster to them they wasn’t doing that so when I came back the next summer they was like damn this [ __ ]
Bigger he’s stronger he’s faster because I put the work in away from that so aside from the politics you got to still grind you got to put the work in and then at the end of the day you going to force the hand all that [ __ ] don’t
Matter yeah so that’s my advice to everybody that’s watching advice regardless of all that [ __ ] you got to put the work in man if you don’t put the work in none of that [ __ ] don’t matter that’s told you advice put the work in you got some advice for us that
Was it we in this podcast life now same we following the footsteps man I damn near got canceled so just tell me what I can in case on that same note on that same note bro since we started it goes back to just putting the work in y’all
Just say y’all shot yesterday or or whatever you got it’s in the in in the podcast game it’s about consistency whatever you dial out to your fan base that’s the expectations if you do one show a week that’s what they waiting on if you do two three shows a week that’s
What they waiting on so you got to be able to match that so if that if the requirement is three shows y’all got to grind and make sure those three shows are there cuz as soon as you [ __ ] up and one show missing they like all right
Where my show at you know what I’m saying I heard that back there back we can’t miss no days look it’s a sacrifice whatever your schedule is your schedule the production team whatever the schedules are everybody got to have their own sacrifices and that’s what we do Alicia is a like two time
Cancer survivor whatever you know what I’m saying so AZ that [ __ ] don’t sleep she going to go to work and do whatever it is so we can get these shows out same with Chan with all his jobs I’ve never met anybody with the work Habits Like Ryan Clark man I follow him
On Instagram it’s hard to keep up that [ __ ] I follow him on IG and it’s hard to keep up I’m everything he does do whether it’s inside the NFL get up First Take rcdc the pivot yeah you know being a full-time dad his son Jordan he drops everything and goes to Arizona State
When Jordan was there to make sure he’s at all of Jordan’s game and then he does everything else Jordan just got in the portal to go to knowre Dame he he he we shot shows he flew to Arizona and drove Jordan W from uh Arizona back to South B
And know the a to check him in the school so it’s about sacrifices but more importantly what y’all doing the shows y’ show we did a show where we flew to LA from Florida so we hit every time zone in like 48 hours we flew from
Florida to uh support Jason Lee in in the Hollywood unlock Awards so we did that then we shot Lil Wayne at 1:30 in the morning in La that same night we left uh California at 400 a.m We flew to the midw to uh to the Midwest not
Midwest we flew to yeah Mountain we went and shot uh bud bud Crawford we left there like at [ __ ] 1:00 we flew to Nashville got to Nashville and we shot for uh Jack Daniels we shot uh Dustin Lynch at the uh Jack Daniels distillery and the very next day we back in Florida
So it’s about whatever the grind is that’s the grind like that’s what it is you sacrifice and you keep pushing so that that’s what I’ll tell y’all consist AC I I was just just on Freddy’s point though so we what we just hit two years
Ain’t it yep two years like you said 140 mil whatever we got 354 videos on YouTube that people can watch 354 in two years that’s shorts too that’s the shorts that’s the shorts but it’s but you go two a week and that’s the thing that’s like it’s almost uh
Somebody told me like remember back in the day when all this what’s this zuie and all this [ __ ] what they got Hulu man all that [ __ ] I remember somebody was telling me years ago that say man we going to just be watching apps in a minute we ain’t going to be watching TV
I thought they were crazy I thought they was crazy remember that you had to be home on [ __ ] Thursday night at 8 to watch Martin if you miss Martin at 8:00 you be you be six cuz you ain’t catching it until next week it’s g into
The Ether you ain’t going to watch BR man you ain’t going to watch that [ __ ] it’s where to Fred point exactly and just the I’m really pcking back in where they were like you have to make we have to make 12:00 on Tuesday everybody wants
To see see what the pivot got we got to see Friday afternoon everybody wants to see who the pivot got and that’s what y’all got to do man we seeing I know a bunch of dudes I won’t call no name but they blow they they go for three four
Months 6 months and they run out of juice yeah it’s like just keep going go go go go and a lot of people same thing and it’s athletes because it’s me Fred Ryan Alicia who you know I’m saying who has the same mind frame them [ __ ] got 12 em it’s that thing
Same grind of [ __ ] we got to ass whoop or hey we didn’t do the numbers we did two 2 million last week we just did 160,000 yeah it don’t matter it don’t matter we about to do another show the next week and we about to kill that [ __ ] and then whatever happens happens
And then we G to do [ __ ] Friday then we going to do [ __ ] Tuesday then we do [ __ ] Friday we going to do [ __ ] Tuesday and we just keep grinding and grinding and grinding don’t get caught up in the numbers cuz fans are fickle right
Because you can have a show with I I I view it as like a concert so you got a OG headliner people gonna show up for that but that doesn’t mean that the person who’s opening for him isn’t good yeah like maybe you haven’t heard of him
Yet right so we’ve had shows where the content was the conversation was beautiful he was like damn all right it’ll resonate with so many people but it didn’t do the numbers but one thing we know is it lives in the internet so it’s going to be out there so it’s
Always uh accessible you know and and there for people whoever needs it they’re going to check it out and that’ll that’ll resonate with them it’s kind of like going to church on Sunday like [ __ ] the pastor talking to me today always talking to you every time
Whatever Ser you got it see like it resonate with you so we we learned that part of it but then you have big names like the rock Kevin Hart Shaq they gon to do numbers so we don’t get caught up in the numbers because this conver conversation can be as meaningful and
More impactful than what the Rock had to say or what Kevin Hart had to say or even Shaq but those are going to do numbers but it doesn’t discount this show because that was just as more meaningful so content is content and the conversations are what they are so you
Do them anyway and you put them out there and you let people decide Channing always said the people make the podcast no doubt the guests make the podcast the conversation make the podcast at the end of the day the people make the podcast and if you leave with Integrity to put
Some good quality conversations out there mine is the drama and the [ __ ] that’s easy yeah on the internet you know what I’m saying if you leave with that people going to take what they want to take and your show is going to be able to live because ain’t no drama you
Know what I’m saying I ain’t no drama and no downtime you got to keep going ain’t no breaks between season one and season two you got to keep going yeah got to keep the endurance game coach hear that that’s life yes sir all right I’m with that we appreciate y’all doing
It man coming in here and doing this I just I need I need one thing all them cities that y’all travel to give me y information all right let’s finish this and that’s OG hey I cut that out we ain’t going don’t don’t put that on there hey man we out
Of here man the next cut
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Let's see if haslem let's then talk lbs
Ud the jokic brothers were looking for and you were hiding
The sellouts okay
Who's we
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Tearing your acl 4 times and still making to the league is crazy 😯
This was a good episode.
I like when nfl and nba players get together
UD and Mike bring Mad Max on.
Loved this just subscribed
I wonder if you guys can get bird man on this podcast.
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Unaccountable players because their parents coddled them. Need to prove yourself or move aside as it was back in the day. Love this candid conversation. First time OG listener, long time Pivot listener. Like it
Love this podcast florida boys
Channing ain't got no damn sense
This is a really good podcast
That book Channing mentioned would be called "Silver Haired Middle Aged White Men" rather than "The Monster You Created" 😂😂😂
Channing to OGUD- “you was down there with me, we could have shared a beer or something 😂😂😂😂”
Channing to OGUD- “you was down there with me, we could have shared a beer or something 😂😂😂😂”
The NIL & the transfer portal has been around for years… please let this what you think about it conversation go
JUST ACCEPT IT… if you want to talk about something talk about boosters.
You hush on the illegal criminal stuff but talk down about kids using their options to include getting the bag legally and all you old athletes weren't marketable enough to get an any NIL deal when you was younger
Great convo OGs 🔥🔥
Loved this podcast 😂😂😂😂
Great show gentlemen..Channing is crazy!
The 49ers actually fucked up picking Trey lance over Justin Fields, I was saying before the draft Justin Fields was the perfect quarterback for they system I’m a Bama fan but I watched Ohio state games and he always had that dawg in him I was too disappointed they picked Trey lance
When you ain't that dude in the NBA, of course you can punch someone in the face cause they can replace your ability with a G League bench player.Just for CONTEXT!!! I seen Anthony Mason grab your GOAT's ass in a PO Game. Nothing Happened!!!! Now….. Just stop it! The situation means less when there is work to be done. Losers fight over words on the court, but if you are touched, then that is a whole other story.
Yessir GC ! Muckcity
I'm with channing on the portal/NIL stuff.
66% lol
Bruh the Pivot is holding Channing back that dude is absolutely hilarious lol 😂
What happens to that inventory? It’s the American way. Free Market period Channing need a show for real
Free Market Capitalism I’m going to get the bread there’s no guarantee you gone make it to the league
I’m a Gator 🐊 fan as a Florida boy and it’s sad what our football 🏈 program has become
Welker
Great content my guy's salute 🖖🏾🤞🏾💪🏾💯….Haslem and Mike y'all going to be great I'm glad y'all got two other OGs to bless y'all with the game…I will be watching from here on our… Salute to the Pivot they so 🔥🔥🔥 Channing is the bad ass🤣 RC is the peace maker and Freddy T is the muscle 💪🏾💯
45:17 I'm finna cry man KEEP FIELDS!!
Has there ever been a Black Kicker?
Bruh that story about the Police trying to make sure he made the Tennessee game that was crazy wild
Fred, get off your phone, maaaaan 🙄
UD was talking bout Rattler but he was wrong Rattler lost his spot
“Delicacy” is the word lol
Everybody loves Charlie Strong !
NAH WHY THEY FRIED MY BOY MIKE MILLER LMFAOOOOO
I love this, but Channing and Freddy have to put their phones down. It's kind of disrespectful to your hosts.
Dawg, this man Channing is fucking hysterical LMFAOOOOO
I dont think people understand how crazy it is that channing did an hour 15 out the gate as an amateur comedian