The END of the P790?! – is this the end of the P790s dominance in the hollow body design market! They have been the top of the tree for many years but can CALLAWAY dethrone them with the new AiSmoke Irons??

With all the AI talk with the drivers with the hybrids with the Fairway Wars the AI smoke irons have gone under the radar for me a hollow body design is something that I have used in the past and it’s something that they have brought out that could be perfect for

You but could also be perfect for a higher handicapper somebody with a slower swing speed or somebody with a faster swing speed and that’s where Callaway for me have obviously h a little bit of Market with here one thing people say about Callaway is yes there

Is a lot of irons on the market and the certainly is they do have I think over 10 different ranges of irons out on the market at the moment so finding the right one for you is certainly down to fittings and guys if you are looking to

Get fitted then we do have all the latest and greatest technology here at Waterfront golf the details to get a fit in here at Waterfront are in the description below but obviously for me I would be going straight into the AI smoke the standard irons again what

We’re going to get here hollow body design similar to or competing with something such as the p770 p790 which have obviously dominated this area of the game for a while now but straight away looks down behind the golf ball exactly what you expect to see a longer

Blade length certainly a lot of area to hit and exactly the flight you expect to hit as well these are designed to obviously get that mid to high launch that for me has actually gone a little bit long there Struck it really nice one big thing for me with hollow body design

I is getting a good sound not making a a hollow sound not sounding too bad on the ear because that’s going to not give you the confidence that you want to get you want something that sounds solid off the face so you can understand how you’ve

Struck it where you’ve Struck it on the face so you can start to dictate why maybe you’ve hit it long or maybe why you’ve hit it short or right or left can all come down to the sound of that but also the feel we get off the face yes

It’s forgiving but not too forgiving that we don’t understand where we’ve hit that on the face certainly for me this is a nine if you are looking to get it a little bit higher get a little bit more launch and get a good look cuz again

We’ve got a thinner top Edge on there and these could be for you perfect example there a little bit heavy a lower ball flight but that has still reached the front edge of the green so not the best strike there but exactly what it’s designed to do forgiveness we’re not always going to

Swing it well we’re not always going to hit a perfect divot but that has certainly got to the green given me a chance to get out here with a par with a poror swing now let’s talk a little bit of Technology before we bring in our mid- handicap golfer who has a slower

Swing speed and this could be directed straight at you so guys we now move on to the AI smoke Max fast so these are designed for the slower swing speed these are a bigger cavity with a lower CG a deeper CG to get that high launch and forgiveness longer blade length but

Not look too offset and they’re perfect for the man who’s about to step up okay Dave so straight down behind the golf ball looks a little bit bigger than yours it does and it looks to be a slight bit of offset as well Chris yeah little bit of offset here exactly what

You expect but we’ve got obviously all the tech in this club Street to be forgiving and to get you the launch we need so we’re going to hit one out here onto the green and then we’re going to jump in the simulator talk about Lofts and talk about tech

Certainly a very high launch there didn’t sound as solid as the others that’s gone though it’s performed well Chris it has it’s done it’s rad on the Wind let’s hit one more quickly Dave whilst we’re out here before we get some numbers cuz that got exactly the launch

We would H for you from this kind of club and again a nice high ball flight that one’s fading back nicely and onto the green and and extremely close Dave thinks it hits the pin his eyes are maybe better than mine it’s a strike ball so we can barely see

It Dave but great shot I honestly thought that had hit the pin let’s go talk numbers let’s see if we can get holding one inside Dave Dave just come to the realization it didn’t actually hit the pin but a fantastic shot nonetheless with the max fast AI smokes

So guys in the studio now we want to talk about what lofs are on these clubs obviously lofs change throughout irons so are they the same from the smoke to the max fast smokes that’s what we want to know obviously when you’re choosing ions you might be using let’s say like

Dave from Tacomo 101 T’s are they the same Loft in the max fast are they the same as the AI smoke standard irons this is where you have to make sure they’re fit in your set if you go for a fit in and suddenly they’re going 20 yards

Further be aware is it the Loft that is on the club so guys obviously when you’re thinking about get getting new clubs obviously like we said there Dave needs to compare them to his 101 T’s are they obviously a similar loft or are they 2 or 3 degrees obviously stronger

Because that’s going to affect obviously how far they go for me here obviously this ion the AI smoke is very similar to let’s say one of the leading clubs on the market in this kind of hollow body design which is the p770 p790 if we go p790 we’re already looking that this

Potentially as a 79 a 79 is nearly 3° stronger it’s 2.5 de stronger in the AI smoke so the AI smoke coming in with a 79 at 28 degre and obviously that’s going to give you yes more distance but obviously on the shorter shots that’s really going to

Hurt it there I’ve carried a 79 190 yards and gone 200 yards is that going to be beneficial for me probably not because that’s going to leave me a big gap at the bottom end of my bag and these clubs as you’ll see on the website are designed for faster speeds faster

Club speeds mid to high so obviously if you are mid to high club Edge speed do you really want your 79 to go 190 yards carry yes it’s great to say to your friends oh I’ve managed to carry my 79 190 yards but then when it comes down to

120 yard shot you’re none the wiser of what you actually need to hit so it’s making sure that it fits in obviously interestingly enough with these IRS as well the five iron is 22 degrees and that would be for me similar to the oldfashioned three iron so two clubs

Stronger than the oldfashioned clubs obviously 185 carry there 2011 again so swinging it and hitting it well obviously dispersion is a little bit left and right here but obviously is that going to help me on the golf course I don’t think so interestingly enough with Dave’s ey ions with the AI smoke

Max fast irons they are very similar so the Tacomo 101 T’s are coming in at 31 degrees was it Dave yep and here with the AI smoke we’ve got it at 30° so one degree difference and interesting this 79 is obviously a lot weaker than the AI

Smoke so again different speeds yes you might get more trajectory from the faster speed you might be carrying it too far so guys obviously when Dave’s testing clubs he wants to make sure that they are as close to his as possible so if he hits Two Shots here is he going to

Get the same kind of consistency similar LS obviously a big price point difference in these eyes a little bit of a drop kick there so not your best one Dave obviously 101 yards going 116 Dave’s normal 79 we are expecting to be pretty much out there around about

135 to 138 so let’s have a look if Dave catches one here what do we get so great shot there from Dave a little bit left 131 carry going 143 so very similar to obviously the Tacomo numbers and this is where obviously like you say for you

Dave down at the ball they look maybe a little bit bigger a little bit chunkier they do look a bit bigger a bit chunky and there’s a bit maybe a little bit of offset but again these are designed for people with slower swing speed so which is me yeah

Which is Dave an average golfer you know a 13 handicap golfer somebody who’s not got as much speed as he once had but still wants to make sure he’s optimizing it again there similar to his T comos but double the price that’s a fantastic strike there

From Dave a ripper down the middle 135 going 147 so exactly what we’ expect pretty much what I hit me Tacomo so a great point there from Dave exactly what it hits is Tacomo price point is different still getting premium components but this is where okay on the

Market are we starting to get a little bit of a plateau are we starting to see that irons maybe aren’t getting as forgiving we’ve got a longer blade length here we have got forgiveness but is it as forgiveness something that is a direct to Consumer I can hopefully

There’s some forgiveness on that sound of the strike but no there wasn’t Chris now no forgiveness was the Dave no but this is where you have to get something suits you is it lessons that going to be more beneficial I think this is a great range because they have counted for

Somebody with a mid to high speed hopefully you don’t hit it too far and obviously have a big gap at the bottom of the bike but also for slower swing speeds like the everyday gol for like Dave great options from Callaway a big Improvement mainly in the drivers but

The irons are something certainly to consider if you are looking for irons but guys hopefully you’re enjoying the content and if you are hit that subscribe button below and we’ll see you again later in the week

17 Comments

  1. Callaway makes some good Irons for mid to Higher Handicap Players. Still using the Rogue ST MAX OS Irons and they increased my Distances about 10 Yards an Iron and very good Forgiveness as well.

  2. I really wish it was a common occurrence for companies to put the loft on the bottom of the club instead of the club number. My 4 iron is 24° so it's crazy to hear a 7 iron is 28°.

  3. Callaway destroyed the Ben Hogan brand!! They bought it, and crapped all over it. Then left it twisting in the wind. Golf brands brought it back, with permission of Perry Ellis the clothing designer.

    Great, Callaway made a hollow body iron. Costco has one. These are nothing special other than marketing your brand.

    A 28° 7 iron makes people feel like they have a bigger D.

    I like the older Callaway stuff. They are nothing special. Trying to keep up with Taylormade or Titleist.

  4. Getting fit today to replace my 16 year old nike irons. Had my heart set on the smoke to match my new driver but now leaning toward the p790's. We'll see after I hit them I guess.

  5. I have played with blades or cavity back clubs for 49 years and just went to the PXG 14 club full bag fitting 0211 & XCOR2 irons and these Hollow Body clubs are going to take a lot of rounds to get used to as the ball is hot off the face and with pitching and chipping I am finding it very difficult to get ahold of distance control as the ball launches off the faces !!!! I will say they will spin the ball like crazy on full shots but the delicate shots are tough to figure out !
    These will be the last set I ever buy as I just retired and at 63yo and have no desire to buy more clubs, as I played 12 years with my last set of clubs!

  6. Love Dave's smug face looking in the camera after being sure to hit the pin. That made his day. 22 degree 5 iron? OMG

  7. The new P790’s are the best hollow bodied irons by a mile , I didn’t like the older models because they sounded loud and felt hard coming from blades but the new ones are excellent. Almost all golfers just need lessons and practice and new irons with crazy claims isn’t the answer

  8. New clubs are longer because of less loft 4 irons are now the same as 3 irons from 25 years ago and 7 woods are the same as 5 woods from 25 years ago as well

  9. I see Dave is trying the AI Smoke HL fast irons which have a loft of 31 degrees, he may have been better off using the AI Smoke HL irons that have a 30 degree loft. The AI Smoke HL Fast are also a much lighter club head. Just saying 🤷‍♂️

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