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Last week you gave again we touched this before your your synopsis on live golf and where you’re at with it now and I have finally after however many years we’ve been talking about live golf and we will continue to I know where I’m at with it right now um and I can finally
Announce that today I am you big anoun I am Team Four races for life baby no I’m joking I now I’ve had time to digest it I watched a bit more of it this weekend I watch some of the PJ tour as well I’ve decided that where I sit with
Live I’m going to watch it when there are there’s a strong leaderboard essentially because if you look at the if you look at the list of the roster now of live golf and who they’ve got there is a few names I’ll be honest of guys that I wouldn’t know if
They w p me in the street that’s just a fact out of the 54 guys there is but there’s also a handful or maybe two hands full now um of golfers who are huge huge names and something else happened this weekend again with John
Ram he finished eth in the end he was in content ention right until kind of the end and he fell away you cannot deny no matter if you hate live love love live love the PJ to whatever you can’t deny that John Ram is one of the very best
Players in the planet he’s the top three he for me now is the new yard stick the new measuring stick because he is in form you know some of the guys have G to live have dropped off come back again but it’s always hard to kind of know in
My opinion of like well yeah X persons Taylor gu has won that event let’s say but how you know what’s the competition like he’s playing against is he actually beat SE good golfers in the prime if some of them fell off or some of them washed up etc
Etc you can’t deny now if you’re playing a live event and beating John Ram you’re playing good good golf so firstly I was inspired to watch it because I saw the leaderboard on the final day and it was strong um some of the names obviously DJ
Ended up winning it John Ram was up there Matt wolf was doing well again quite good nice to see him back and there’s a handful of names up there so I watched some of it similar to points what you said last week the whole noise
And the bugs and the whole set to wind me up maybe because you’d mentioned that already I was listening for it again they kept saying Championship Saturday finished on Saturday this week obviously cuz the the Super Bowl again I kept hearing that maybe because you’d mentioned it already but when I was
Watching it I wasn’t remotely interested in the team side of it again that just doesn’t appeal to me whatsoever yet the team side couldn’t care less I wanted to see who won I was excited because of the fact there was big names in it and another thing I thought of again and
It’s an obvious thing we will have touched on many a time before but what really came to light was I know whenever the next event is even on which I don’t know off the top of my head but the next event is jeder jeda and Saudi I know
Which players will be playing in that event I know for a fact that those same guys going be playing I don’t know when it comes to the next PJ Tour event you don’t know who’s like this one this feels like the the the Phoenix one’s a
Big event but yeah there was no Rory but then Scottish eers there it is diff difficult sometimes to know but I think my allegiance if you want to call it that all my allegiance lies with right now is whatever event I’m going to watch on a Sunday night if they’re both on
Whichever got the strongest leader board is what I’m going to choose into tune into it’s as simple as that there’s no bias there’s no favorite um well I probably would still say I prefer the PJ toour but on that whichever one as you know an hour spur I’m going to watch the
One that’s going to entertain me the most it’s as simple as that I was a bit torn this weekend cuz one I didn’t have a lot of time in my schedule to watch an awful lot of golf last weekend I felt I can had a lot more time um it was if I
Had an option to go and F I kind of end up double screening a lot of the time yeah double screen don’t double screen a lot of time like either PJ or or live on the TV and had whatever else on my phone I think there a couple of which I didn’t
Do that last week because mainly the Pebble Beach event finished a day earlier so there or finished without the Sunday so I didn’t get to see that Sunday the one thing between the two um broadcasts I personally I think the commentary on PJ tour is better than
Live personally there’s an awful lot of adverts on PJ tour yeah of course like a lot of adverts to the point where it was like I felt like there’s almost more adverts than than not um and then the other thing was the um I thought the whole noise had been turned down I
Thought it was actually slightly quieter this week believe it or not um but apart from that was the only real change you know what as well oh sorry last thing last thing last thing I’ll tell you what I was really impressed with and I don’t know if this actually did work out like
This on the Saturday and again just all those little things are on on a Saturday so people could watch the Super Bowl it was you had Dustin Johnson um Bryson D Shambo and John Ram all tied for the lead I think there was another player but it was almost no
Question who was going to get paired together you had those three and you cannot deny if you have Justin Dustin Dustin Johnson John RAM and Bryon the Shambo in a group I mean what a group yeah what a group eh you know you know as well what I was thinking is and I
Know we’re very naive to look at it like you have to be excl exclusively a fan of one or the other and I’ve just said exactly my piece I’m going to watch whichever one floats my boat more but there are some people who are now exclusively live golf and and a lot of
People who are not willing to entertain it and they get that and you see it on social media but one thing I must say now I’m kind of warming to if you like on the live golf side is if wobbly stool just kind is if you are a fan of Liv Golf and
You are exclusively a fan of Liv golf so that’s small percentage of people that will only watch live that’s all they care about as a fan it’s quite easy because you’ve got a handful of events throughout the year you know when they’re going to be as we’ve just
Touched on you know what players are going to be there you’ve actually got a weeks off where you don’t have to watch it every weekend you have to worry it sounds silly there’s no like world ranking confusion there’s no real like oh this is a big event this is a small
Event oh Rory’s in this one Rory’s not in that one it’s actually quite a simple thing to follow if you want to get wrapped up in that s of live golf world it feels quite insula it’s quite simple isn’t it but whereas if you’re watching the the PJ tour there’s something on
Every single week but some weeks don’t really matter but then some weeks do and then you get world ranking points for some events and or big points for some not big for others it is a bit more hard to follow as a fan and to some degree
The PJ tour might started simple but give it time and live might start simple but then down the line it might get more confusing when you know more things get added cuz it will do it eventually get added more or um but yeah I it’s it’s you know it’s very interesting I’m for
The third year kind of looking at this and and I’m I’m start the first couple of years I saw there was no almost no cracks or issues with the PJ tour and lots of issues and cracks with Liv now I’m seeing limited but still cracks in
Liv I feel like I’m seeing more in the PJ tour I’m feeling I’m seeing more things I’m like yeah you know what this this isn’t this is isn’t right and I I feel like it’s got worse I feel like their products got worse as Liv’s products got better I’d agree I’d agree
Um just a quick side note do you value the listeners of this podcast and the viewers of this podcast with all my heart okay well good because that’s the answer I wanted to give we give them a little heads up today so this is we’re actually doing this on Monday as as you
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41 Comments
Rahm, Koepka, Johnson, Dechambeau, Smith, Mickelson, Garcia, Gooch, Watson, Reed, Hatton…. Def the better roster now and didn’t even mention the guy that just shot a 58 and won two weeks ago.
If you plan to attend last round of tourney you’ll be guaranteed to see the players you pay to see. The team aspect isn’t for some but adds another layer to where player scores matter every round.
These are just a few of the reasons LIV is going to continue winning over market share.
I'm sure at some.point yall were sayin rahm would never go liv
I really enjoy LIV and the team aspect of it, but i want the teams to mean something. Like Torque, Ripper and Stinger are at least representative of south America, Australia and South Africa, but the rest i kinda just teams. I want one i can get behind for a reason
I find it odd that Rick moans about the number of adverts, has he ever watched his videos on YouTube? Every time there’s a must make shot, it cuts to adverts so you miss it
Liv is just the best not watched the PGA tour for over 2 years now
You are owned by the Saudis, Rick!
No LIV has not got good. And it never will be. It doesn't mean anything no matter how many sell out for the big bucks (don't have a problem with that, I might). But it has nothing to do with golf history. And the name is so stupid. LIV. lol. 54 holes. So now they are stuck with 54 holes which will. never be accepted as a proper tournament. A complete joke. I would never watch one of thier tournaments even if they got a real tv deal. That being said, I do enjoy watching Brysons YouTube videos. Excellent. Have no problem with the individual golfers.
Rick Shiels logo wear is head and shoulders above Tiger's S D R logo wear!!!
Still don't care for the music in the background but I personally like LIV Golf. 54 holes isn't terrible, you have to play well each day. Team play would be better if they emphasized it more but otherwise it's entertaining in my opinion.
Every few years they will have to pay top players from the PGA millions of dollars to join LIV. so in 5 years the top players in LIV golf today will be retiring or have met their sell by date. this means the LIV tour cannot sustain itself and it will continue to bleed money.
Liv golf sucks, 54 hole exhibition….
Each to their own but It’s hard to get into because liv because the events are so generic, it doesn’t have marquee events like Memorial or Bay Hill or the players, Liv Las Vegas, Liv Mexico and the rest are very samey and it’s hard to find them exciting
No, it's not good but the players are making money and they've taken almost all the good ones so…… Never seen a professional sport overtly derailed like this. Honestly, it's shameful. But it certainly makes YT golf a helluva lot more "necessary", entertaining, fun, important for the sport, etc, etc. If not for you guys, I wouldn't watch golf at all.
you still owned by performance54??
Hell no
Rick where are all the club reviews?
We need your take on all these new drivers, Irons wedges etc
Nobody cares about what your are wearing.
Not at all good. I have little interest in following it.
It's pretty simple for me – I don't have a TV subscription and LIV events are free to watch online with my favorite player(s). If that changes, I probably won't watch. I find a way to watch the majors when they happen but have never followed the PGA tour week-in, week-out.
LIV events have no commercials. I watched 4.5 hours on Friday and 5 hours of LIV golf on Saturday with no commercials. If you like golf, why would you not watch the LIV events when they are on. PGA events have way too many commercials and I want to see the golfers hit shots not do interviews after their round. Check out datagolf or tugr which includes their LIV events and you will see how highly ranked so many of the LIV players are still. If you miss a round, you can also rewatch the entire rounds on youtube and livgolfplus.
I was at Vegas great leaderboard with elite players…..PGA Tour needs to embrace the team concept to keep it entertaining.
nahhhh
I'll never watch a shot! And if anyone else wants to fight for our game of golf they shouldn't either!
Where's the rising talent on LIV? The PGA Tour has nobodies that rise to the top. Everyone loves the rags to riches stories provided by the PGA Tour. LIV has bought it's talent and will continue to skim from the PGA Tour talent pool. So, it is priviledged individuals putting on a show. I rather watch the talented and driven players struggle to break through to become superstars. That's why people like YouTubers like Rick, Guy, Garrett, Grant, the Bryan Bros who are good to very good. struggle to excel
The same money that funds some of the most horrible acts in this world also funds this golf organization…and pays your bills now too apparently.
Class act little rick
I will not watch Liv golf it's immoral !!! Keep making your content especially with guests like Iona and Guy a great watch 😊
yes
I like the shotgun start with liv. Every score is live which keeps it exciting for me.
LIV has improved immensely. They still need to make some tweaks though.
FANS are the big losers in golf war. Fans want the best players , great broadcast, lots of golf action, limited commercials, every shot counts for individual and team on final day. LIV delivers on all these.
Liv is better than the PGA period! I agree with the adverts, and the commentary box is broadcast more than the actual players.
Liv is the future, all the eliteism of the golf world, got a big slap in the face,I'm delighted. Great forum team and individual winners.
Now that a few LIV golfers filmed with Rick, Guy's tongue is firmly lodged
LIV always has been good. You get to see about 100x the amount of golf shots than you do on a PGA broadcast, and even with the smaller player pool, you see more variety of players BECAUSE of the team element. On a PGA Sunday, you aren't seeing middle of the pack guys unless they hole out or tap in on the 18th. On LIV, if someone birdies or even bogies, you're likely to see it because it affects the team scores. After going to an event live, the music is really only evident around the party holes, in Vegas there was really 2 holes where it was loud, anywhere outside of that it was either background noise or you couldn't hear it at all. I get that it comes through on the broadcast and it's not good music, but it does add some vibe to the in person event. The shotgun start is also awesome, 4-4.5 hours of event and you have the rest of the day to go do other shit (like play golf), and really do you need a 4th day for a normal event as a spectator? Not really, 4 days is great for a major as a true test but for a normal event, I kinda like that it's quick fight for the podium. The teams are going to grow on people over the years, you get to know the players in the league and you're not sitting there going "who the hell is Mattheiu Pavon?" at the end of the week. There's certainly a place for PGA as well, LIV will likely never top the Players, but to me, it's absolutely more entertaining than the run of the mill tour events and getting better all the time. Broadcast crew could stand to improve but that's my biggest gripe with it. I would have a problem with where the money was coming from if that same money wasn't already involved in every aspect of our lives and if the tour wasn't trying to get their chunk, but the morality of it all has been out the window for a long time. It's a shame they didn't embrace the concept before the Saudi's got involved because it definitely could've worked without them.
The golf is not good. That you recognize names but don't give a wit about the declining state of their games (DJ even tho he just won, Sergio, Phil, Lee, Casey) or the ones who are only up for majors ( Brooks, Bryson) covers most of the names. The others are basically fill-ins. Being a closed shop, same 48 guys week in and week out is not intriguing.
Players are fantastic (for the most part). My biggest hurdle is I just simply do not care about any of the events, they mean nothing.
I’ve always been against it but I was glued to the tele this weekend
LIV is better than the PGA
Since LIV has started I've watched less golf. Many of my golfing mates say the same thing. LIV is not spreading golf to a wider audience.
LIV has abetter rooster pga is just a better kornferry tour..pull up two leader boards pga is a joke…
wm was over the top but pga is like watching a funeral..
Glad to see y’all have changed your tune on LIv and can finally see the cracks in Monahans tour.
I watch both. But LIv is undeniably a better presentation regardless of players.
As far as the players there is no doubt LIv feels like an elite tour missing a few stars. The pga tour feels like a second level tour with a few stars.
Sadly those few golden boys will stay loyal a few more years thanks to that 1.5 billion. Which means if LIv wants them for next year they will still have to offer them a pretty penny.
LIV players dont care. They dont need performances to keep a card. They are cash rich before they tee off. The commentary is cringy. No spectators go. The music is trashy. Its a car crash and its hemorrhaging money. LIV is garbage