The SauceDog Spectacular

In a convention center full of heroes – Dan Hanzus, Gregg Rosenthal, and Marc Sessler are LIVE from radio row in Las Vegas. The heroes open the show with a sit down with Sauce Gardner and then preview Super Bowl LVIII with Nick Shook. The show is wrapped with the heroes catching up with Chris “Mad Dog” Russo . 

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04:47 Sauce Gardner
18:02 Nick Shook
43:52 Chris “Mad Dog” Russo

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The around the NFL podcast hasn’t lost Mark to the desert yet hello and welcome to day two from Radio Row in Las Vegas of the around the NFL podcast Dan hus here of course with the heroes Greg Rosenthal and Mark cesler uh I think we should start here Greggy uh Mark how you

Feeling dog uh because there were it was touch and go yesterday looking at you and I feel you know I typically feel terrible when that’s happening cuz it’s like people are having to listen to someone’s voice that is not radio row ready and Greg is looking at me and I I

Understand like is this person going to fall get get him so no I’m I I would say I was at 12% yesterday I’m at about 40 38% today that’s great that’s great in fact we have trending upward we took a car um to get to radio row and Mark

Leads with the fact that he thinks that he might be on the way out and his illness is Raging and I could see the driver getting very uncomfortable in like a March 2020 kind of way I like you know in this huge vast uh radio row like

A lot of people were huddling together and talking and catching up there’s a seat over by the wall over there I was just sitting over there trying to respect everyone else’s Destiny as one does it wouldn’t be your normal antisocial proclivities that are contributing to that at all Mark let’s

Be honest you’re sitting against that wall no matter what well in this case it benefited uh multiple I hope you remember this you say you have no recollection of what happened yesterday um we we had to that sounds like more than a out here uh and uh think it’s got

To be a big show you know so excited because this is this is the episode of the year uh for me guest wise uh and and reviews are in uh the the premere the pilot episode of Mark mancave people love it they love the energy they love the tone they love the conversation

Coming up today it’s the SAU dog spectacular sauce dog we have sauce Garder New York Jets Superstar we have Chris madg Russo icon of sports media both on the show today and if that’s not if that’s not enough we got a pipe here we got a pipe in person which was an incredible

Surprise to me cuz I had it was off my radar Nick shook who is so important to our show uh during the season is here covering the 49ers and um he had an interesting bar experience that we’re going to get to later yesterday that really tied it to our show in a really

Neat way so here we are what a show again this is the SAU dog spectacular with a little side of pipe well I love anything with the side of pipe and uh it’s our preview show too you know we’re we’re we’re diving in no one I’d rather do it with than Shook and

Uh no one I’d rather fawn over and tell the same sort of stories as we introduced how we grew up listening to him then mad do for the fifth we can skip that part this time Greg maybe is less into that aspect of it no I love

Mad Dog I don’t want to hear that you know it’s like you could say some you know someone who was a pessimist could say that we cater um some of our guest appearances to our own personal interest we’ve had two Browns we’re going to have a jet we’re going to have shook is

Everyone’s interest but Mad Dog our childhood hero um but you know what you go do a podcast for 12 years and bring the guest on that you want to bring on I is it is it whose show is it it’s our show baby well can I get like a pro

Women’s tennis player on the show or something let’s get I would say we can get we’ll see if we can get a Stephy graph here she has been getting out in the mix more lately see if we got Steph little uh now my already I’m in the hole

A little bit with the tenant cornova we see if sheis CIS in a big spot yes let’s go with the Legends little Chrissy Everett Mara and by the way Mad Dog he loves talking tennis too so if you want to get a tennis question in there why

Don’t you do that Craig I’m sure that would be of interest to our listeners He he’ll when he did solo shows he talked tennis for an hour on a rip he would love it Greg I think what what Greg was indirectly saying is um he doesn’t want

You to tell the story about driving with your dad in the car listening to Mad Dog on Saturdays again I think we’ve covered that but I would love it because Mad Dog’s going to hear it like he’s never heard it before so right all right anyway without further Ado let’s start

This have I mentioned that today’s episode episode is the S Dog spectacular so let’s bring him in our first guest one half of sauce dog s Carter all right so let’s get into it I mean enough enough because right now as has been mentioned it’s time for the S Dog spectacular Part

One S Gardner of the New York Jets all proo former Defensive Rookie of the Year like the best player on my favorite team in the world the this this is cool this is when it’s cool to be here what’s up SAU how are you I’m great man I

Appreciate y’all for having me you know it’s a blessing to be here tell us yeah tell us what you’re doing with Verizon um it’s always great to you know have me my name and Verizon name mentioned in the same sentence I’m a huge fan of them

And I just enjoy working with them uh like I said I’m here on be on behalf of Verizon you know the official 5G network of the NFL the network that the majority if not all of the NFL players fans and coaches reli on so you know it’s a

Blessing to be here how do you feel about this is the S do spectacular kind of being the opening act here for Mad Dog Russo coming on later in the show that’s fire right there I like that okay okay I like that I’m glad you’re with it

You got a sound effect in everything I think that I saw that look in your eye when when that play um sauce here’s a theory to get into things you know this Chief’s team uh your jets our Jets we kind of beat beat them in week four if the officials

Didn’t Shenanigans let’s be real I don’t know if you could say it but I could say Shenanigans um by the transit of property if the Chiefs win on Sunday the Jets are the Super Bowl champions yay or no um I guess just fans can possibly say that but but you know reality is

Everything so if it’s not actually saying jet Super Bowl then we ain’t win it what was it like uh going up against against them at that point in the season and everything and what what they kind of presented to you like how was it different it was great you know a

Competitive a whole bunch of elite players on that team you know um I still feel like we should have won that game come on you know what I’m saying did they get you on one of those penalties uh yeah they did oh come on you’re going

To penalize SAU in the fourth quarter of crunch time it was it makes me sick s it does well what did you what did you learn about Patrick Mahomes in that game you got lucky now I learned that he you know how to how do I put this when it’s crunch

Time he know exactly what to do he know the guys to rely on he know when and when not to do certain things um he’s a a smart player he made those big plays with his legs I remember in the game and always an underrated uh part of his game

And uh we’re going to I’m I’m sure see more of that so it’s interesting two years ago and you talked to a million people and so probably don’t remember but like an hour after you were drafted we had you on the show right here in Vegas and I was

Giving you the Sad Sack Jet fan routine of like when’s things when of things going to get better and you kind of cut me off which I loved and you’re were like that’s in the past that’s over like I don’t care what happened before I got

Here and of course then you and Garrett and and US young nucleus is coming together and you’ve made steps of course still there’s been disappointment uh in the two years for the team and the Rogers injury was an all time blow uh for the franchise in terms of gut punch

Like I I I’m my I’m usually an optimistic fan but I’m I’m worried about where things are and how things go moving forward could you do me the favor of spinning things and making me in Jets fans feel good about what’s going to happen this year and and maybe this is

The year things change make Dan happy make him feel better or try I don’t know if you could Aaron will be back the defense we going to do what we do special teams we going to do what we do like I said a to be back we’ll be

Bringing some new some new pieces in for the offense and know those new pieces going to be great for the offense great additions we going to dominate I I feel it I feel the confidence I I felt it from day one and you’re working on a a one game winning streak against the

Patriots I’m a Patriots fan and so I remember the Jets Patriots game at the end of the season more than probably the average NFL fan who was not paying that close attention to that game but at that point in the season like you kind of

Figured it was the end of Bill bich and so many things that happened for the first time in the bich era or a streaks ended but the one thing he had left in life the one thing he had left in with the Patriots was that winning streak

Against the Jets and you took that away from him how do you feel about doing that on his way out nice setup grey man that feels great you know what I’m saying I’ll be lying up I said that’s not what we wanted to do and that’s not

What our thought process was going into that game um we knew it could be the end of that Patriots era or whatever so we had to make sure we sent them on this way the right way but he’s like a future Hall of Famer couldn’t you have just like given

Him that much that one little bit that the Patriots could hold on me he already a future Hall of Famer he a great coach you know he’s always done great things won multiple Super Bowls he knows so much about the game of football so it’s like doing that would have just been an

Extra little cherry on the top it was no point over on the Bel Che point so this is I think before you were even born but when belich spurned the Jets and went to the Pats in 2000 uh and then went on you know the greatest run ever

For a head coach and a quarterback with Brady I I’ve been scratching my head and and yelling on microphone the past couple weeks I cannot believe all these head coach openings nobody went and got bellich and gave him a second bite of the Apple like Brady got in Tampa are

You surprised that he’s not going to be coaching this year or were you how sure were you that he was going to pop up somewhere else else and you might see him on the field next year I don’t really know cuz I don’t know what go

Into all of that you know when it come to job openings you know what they talk about with other teams you know I’m sure those teams know that he’s a great coach he’s a Hall of Fame caliber coach you know what I’m saying so I don’t know why

He wasn’t selected you know um that’s not my place I don’t really know I just know he’s a he’s a great coach and um we him the best in the future couldn’t get a job well maybe he will down the road I I I on the Jets front because I feel

Like you probably have learned a lot in in your first two seasons and you know in college everything’s going great but you hit a team that’s you know Aaron Rogers goes down right away and it seemed like two years in a row you’ve got this glowing Jets defense and an

Offense that just was struggling they’re they’re you don’t you don’t have your number one quarterback two times in a row and it’s like how do how do you cuz there were a lot of reports coming out in New York how does the the locker room stay unified when the defense is doing

One thing and the offense can’t find their way what have you learned about how to like not have the team completely be a sinking chip I mean we Brothers before anything what I’m saying the football that’s that’s the game that’s what we love to do but you know the

Bonds and the relationships that you make when you going when you coming into this game when you leaving the game that’s that’s what matters the most so it’s easy to maintain that Bond you know you got guys that’s on defense that’s closer with guys on offense so it’s just

It’s just that easy you know to keep the locker room you know um keep the keep the bond in the Brotherhood so you you were named First Team all proo this year again doing that backto back years to start your career that’s only been happened you know that’s only happened a

Handful of times at that position like in the history of the NFL it usually it’s team players from winning teams too that get recognized so I think it I think I was the first one you’re the first one see you’re correcting corner corner you’re on it I’m like one or

Three I just found that out uh Michael Michael Parsons Lawrence Taylor and me that’s an incredible uh achievement to start your career also incredible dexterity to keep giving guys like you know dap them up as they’re walking by while you’re doing the interview you’re also the first person

To ever do that on our show you’re so history this is just certain faces I don’t I I don’t really get to see too much so when I see him TJ hman yeah yeah TJ my alltime favorite players I did want to ask you about the all prize like

What do you think you did this year specifically maybe different than your rookie year and that set you aart where you got the nod over some some great players like lerus Steve didn’t get it he’s he’s in this game charvarius W didn’t get it jayen Johnson didn’t get

It what what did you do that put you you ahead just just dominating you know what I’m saying yeah Greg it know that’s simple it hit different when you dominating you know what I mean but you got to added things to your game from your first year right no he doesn’t do

I’m still finding ways to get better still finding ways to get better for sure hey Before We Say Goodbye uh one of our favorite um segments with guests where we really get to know them is a a little game we call 8:00 Delight it’s a speed round first thing that comes to

Your mind and then we’ll say goodbye hit it Eric the producer spring or fall uh fall Jersey Shore The Hamptons jerse Tarantino or scorsi I don’t know who that is Jay-Z or Nas JayZ Chappelle or Kevin Hart Kevin Hart friends or Seinfeld um friends are we alone in the

Universe are we hold on are we alone like are there aliens I don’t no no yes let me say yes because I don’t want an alien to pop up you know what I mean sometimes you got to believe in stuff just so they don’t you know come and

Show you the taser out like you didn’t believe it strategy uh the jet switch to the throwback jerseys fulltime I mean come on right I like that but I do think we should have got some nuance and never mind I like that um where is your Defensive Rookie of the Year Award right

Now at home in my game room favorite ice cream flavor straberry cheesecake what’s the movie or TV series you’ve rewatched the most I don’t rewatch TV series ah interesting have you ever seen a ghost yes wow we’ll get back to that mini golf for play 18 mini do the Yankees have enough starting

Pitch or depth I have my doubts I haven’t got to watch the Yankees but I’m huge fans of them all right uh pineapp pineapples or pizza on Pizza y or nay I had it before and it’s good but no are people inherently decent people inher yeah are people good at their heart

Or yes okay um and the final oh would you try would you time travel if you could is it backwards or do I forward or backwards choose good question good question um all right and uh finally this one’s from my dad Keith who’s been

A Jets fan since the name of days who is the toughest receiver to cover in the NFL right now I don’t know I can’t answer that can’t do it I can’t it’s not just one cuz you shut them all down I can’t just put one I could I had to name multiple

On if I name one who name multiple you got Tyreek Stefan M Amari Cooper wild okay you know what I’m saying they don’t have a chance against the great s Garner S I can’t wait uh next year we’re not going to be able to do this cuz

You’re going to be playing in the Super Bowl but the year after that or maybe a couple years down the line we’ll do this again thank you very much for having us and uh have a great Super Bowl weekend thanks all right there he goes s Gardner

I’ll tell you what I uh already do use that particular carrier phone carrier but you would have been ConEd might sign up again after yeah I think well he made it clear that the vast majority of NFL players coaches and fans use it so well

He’s not wrong we I I do not have a second phone I have my NFL official phone so we have no choice doesn’t have a burner a beautiful it’s a beautiful thing GRE you don’t got no burner no that’s good it always makes me suspicious of the people like you don’t

Have a second I like what’s going on in your second phone I I I think the same thing but people look at us like we’re crazy anyway it was good with SAU I wouldn’t say that I now feel better um the the the cell about why

Things were going to be okay really boil down to really what the Jet’s party line is which is well Aaron’s back maybe that will be enough maybe I don’t know I think SAS is like what more do I need to do I don’t think he’s the one

Going to be making the like huge speech before week one that’s not his his spot just why don’t you guys be as excellent as me and then we can be somewhere right like yeah you know go get a couple right tackles get another receiver and then

Let’s see if we can not fall apart in horrific fashion all right we are uh just getting warmed up we’re going to take a break and when we come back friend of the show extraordinaire will join us all right welcome back so um scheduled guest Nick shook uh but Nick

Has run into some issues with um getting through the masses and into radio row so we do have a fallback plan uh sitting to my right is Dave elely uh news editor Chief news editor uh NFL media um luckless in love but a good man with a

Good heart Dave welcome back to around the NFL and also bald so I feel like I’m covering for shook as well I noticed you pushed the mic up higher I got here so I appreciate that so not quite Nick but I feel like you can fill in I uh I was

Approaching from a distance and saw a balded white and I thought well that must be Shook and then I realized just seeing the dimensions and I’m not a tall person either so it’s no knock on you that is absolutely not Nick shook but what is happening in your in your love

Life Ilie I want I want an update we’ve only got a couple minutes here wow um so we’re just diving right into it I know I knew we were not going to talk football well before we get to that I just want to give a little background so I ran

Into Elie yesterday last night that’s called the NFL house they invite all NFL Network and NFL media and NFL New York office employees and UK uh to a venue and it’s it’s a nice scene there was there was bowling there were there was booze food all that good stuff you know

Zuer we had a we had a meeting with uh some iHeart people had a couple Tios then uh we go to this event I meet up with handsome Hank and you know have a couple more then Dave rolls over with his posi Dave and the Dave posi and you

Know you know how Dave does Dave starts he’s gonna Dave Dave’s gonna Dave Dave’s 100% Dave and that’s what we love about Elie got to be Dave you know all of a sudden um we have a conversation that I didn’t recall until this morning and I

Get a text about all right so when am I coming on the show and I had a I had a I had apparently agreed to have Dave on today’s show and then I had to let him know the bad news that Nick shook who just walked by so you’re about to get

Bumped again uh later in the night okay later in the night we I contacted shook or shook contacted me and he took your spot but because Nick was late you are now here to talk about anything you want I mean I’m thank you for letting me talk after what felt like a two-minute

Introduction um to go back to what that’s how the show Works Dave just to let you know um but yeah Dan did agree around 10:00 last night to have me on um had no idea what he was talking about when I texted him this morning and it

Was great I did say like I guess promises from 10 p.m at open bars don’t mean anything any wow yeah I I I kind of apologize I wasn’t blackout drunk I just didn’t remember the conversation very well it kind of came and went and didn’t stick around and uh it’s like any

Scheduling with talk talk with Dan just assume never remember it um yeah I guess so whatever the floor is mine the floor was yours because Shooks here now but um just want to say um we’ve been kicking around some ideas for offseason shows and the idea of you know Finding El Elia

Mate would be that’ll be near the top of the list for like a a spin-off summer show yeah I think we’ll wait till then for that update I don’t love find Elia mate as like the name of the show but I think maybe we can Workshop that but

Yeah how are things going cuz you’re going full full Dave the the shirt you guys said full Dave so much I’m not quite sure what that means maybe I’ll I’ll take that answer off the air Dave we got 30 seconds Mark uh things are going fine in the love life Department

Um still single but you know what it’s a journey those are two different things okay right so there’s options you could go like half Dave you go three quarters Dave you’ve chosen to go full Dave today that’s what it means yeah love that um I

Think we reached yeah so um we Dave we have we have to bump you not unlike um how your College sweetheart had to bump you from her long-term life plans uh after cam didn’t dive on that fumble in 50 uh so thank you for joining us come

On Super Bowl predict you really fast no I don’t think so thanks let’s welcome on Nick sh sh thank you Dave there he goes Dave ele come on Nick and now another ball Dwight rolls over this one different than the last also bearded different stature here

You go sitting down with us now is none other than man you trying to get this pipe oh we got this pipe Nick shook now sits down with us yeah and apparently El is short this thing’s way down here taking some fire here we love Dave he’s 100%

Dave uh shookie so here’s a great story with shook so last night I’m coming back from the hotel after I had um agreed to have Dave on the show and shook uh hits me up and says I’m at the hotel bar and you’re not going to believe this but

What the pipe was within 5 to 10 feet yeah we’re a little wobbly here of the pipe God the namesake himself was right there and I was frozen in time I was actually going to go somewhere else I saw him I was like I can’t leave and

Then I was trying to muster up the courage wait who is this J.R Smith J.R Smith the the former Cavs uh Nicks enter probably five other teams great uh who you know is the he is the original pipe and uh to see two so two pipes in the

Same bar right next to each other feels dangerous I never talked to him I chickened out I blew it why Nick um I I don’t want to be that guy who’s like hey can I get a picture you don’t need to do that but you could just strike up a

Conversation well the problem is I would have walked up and been like I was in downtown Cleveland for game seven in 2016 that’s even worse you’re my second favorite cavali like I would have just exploded with adoration it would have been bad it’s like how come you didn’t

Know what the score was the year after that that yeah that would been a bad one that’s George Hills fault anyway so shooki you are boots on the ground and thank you uh because it’s great to have someone here uh that is covering the teams you’re covering the ners uh for

Nfl.com check out everything that Shooks writing up over there what is your like overall Vibe about what’s going on around the NFC champions well everybody likes to talk about the rematch but that was four years ago and the ners have been pretty quick to point out that that

Was four years ago that a lot of things are different but one thing those returning players who were on that team have repeatedly said there’s two one is Talent won’t win this game it’s whoever executes will win this game who plays better and the other one is they’re all

Bent on washing away that feeling of losing and you even add a guy like Javon hardgrave who lost the Super Bowl last year to the Chiefs same thing we don’t want to feel the same way we did the last time we got to the end of this game

I mean so the one feeling I get from the Chiefs is that you know they’ve been here so many times so many of the same players like there’s this calm and ease and a sense of like we’re just going to do this and we’re not concerned or isn’t

Fear like do the ners have because they’ve been up the upper echelon too do you sense that they also go in with that kind of calmness and serenity or do they is there a little more pressure on them no I think actually I feel like they’re not operating with very much pressure um

There is a professionalism a bit of we’ve been here before what it is is there’s less of a circus you’re still getting those you know off-the-wall questions and everything else but it’s not it like it was if you followed a team that had been there for the first

Time in many years and they’re all really just happy to be here they know the task at hand and what they have to do and they also know that the challenge is very great and that this is a team that you know in the Chiefs that people

Have not beaten in the last few times that they’ve been in the Super Bowl I I hesitate to get too deep into the psychology of the team because look it’s it’s 53 players it’s 45 players on game day and it just a couple you don’t believe in momentum things like that I’m

Just saying like can it’s very hard we’ve found this over the years to figure out which team’s going to play well based on how they act during the week but I do think there is something with the 49ers potentially that they got over the hump in the NFC in games they

Were expected to win in games they didn’t play well I I don’t know whether to take that as like okay they got past that and you’re right this now they’re in the biggest moment of their life they got to it and it’s somehow um almost a

Release to get past it or to be more focused on the fact which I keep hitting which is that their last three big games you know they played not they didn’t play to their best ability certainly on defense but even offensively in two of or parts of all three of those games

They weren’t at their very best yeah that could go two ways you could either say look we haven’t even played well we’re playing with house money you know imagine if we actually put together a good game and do what we’re supposed to do for four quarters we should be able

To win against anybody but on the flip side you also have that fear in the back of your mind of what if we lay out another clunker and this time we can’t come back we can’t overcome the hole that we’ve dug ourselves in the first

Half and that’s going to be the big test because they’re facing a team that has plenty of experience and knows exactly how to win these games and if you think about the psychology all the way back to Super Bowl 54 they were in a great spot

To win that game before it all fell apart sure so they have to avoid that as well it didn’t used to be a thing that there was a 10-point comeback in the fourth quarter of a Super Bowl the Patriots against the sex were actually the very first and then it’s it’s

Happened a ton since I mean if uh he hits Manny Sanders Jimmy G it’s it’s a whole different story in that game and and the question for me part of this matchup is we’ve all been impressed by the chief’s ability to just kind of turn

It on and get to this point but even you know when you look at the game game by game here they’re still not the old Chiefs in terms of offense and I’m wondering San Francisco’s defense has been pretty disappointing down the stretch they’ve been able to get by even

With the struggles how do you like the game from a matchup standpoint let’s like focusing in more on the the secondary and the coverage against the Chiefs wide receivers and and of course there’s Kelce but like the ability to keep mvs from making the play that he’s

Made the last couple weeks to really open up and and and give the Chiefs that extra Dimension that they’ve lacked so so much this season yeah I think it’s really important that you point out what you just did that this is not the Chiefs team that we came to know a few years

Ago they’re not the Super explosive team that they used to be I think about that one Hallmark play from 54 jet chip wasp where Tyreek gets open and Mahomes has enough time to run that play and it’s a GameChanger that’s not this team anymore they don’t do that anymore Mahomes is

Best in zero to 10 air yards that the short it’s going kind compare two sitations but if I assign confidence points you look at it I mean nobody really knows which way this game’s going to go it’s not like there’s a heavy favorite in either way but if I assigned confidence

Points of it and try to make sense of it I feel the best about the Chiefs defense I feel okay at best about the chief’s offense I feel all right about the ners offense especially if they get their momentum rolling which I know you don’t believe in Greg but we’re going to talk

About it anyway and then the ners defense they’re talking about they have effort issues this week that’s concerning so that’s the I have the least confidence in so I do still kind of side with the Chiefs yeah we talked about that the the effort thing and how

That just that word it’s a it’s an ugly little word that’s being thrown around and is there a reality here where that their defense collapses here and with momes leveling up and and all of a sudden Kelsey goes 11 for 174 and two touchdowns and it’s another red and

Yellow confetti day I think that’s certainly a possibility if you just look at the trending nature of the two teams there’s another world where like that being told about your players like maybe wres the ship and like but again we don’t know how that actually works

Behind the scenes but I do like the fact that like the Chiefs are a defense that has been consistent they’re playing their best like they’ve allowed the fewest yards after the catch of any team in the league that matters with against the ners that matters against Debo

Samuel and it’s a team that has gotten to the quarterback and if you can get you know carus and Jones into Brock P’s be house I think you got a a beeh high be house whatever would be like no you had it right the first time it’s a be

House if it’s one of those things beehive doesn’t really make sense either if you make him uncomfortable I mean like I think that when Brock P’s made mistakes that’s that’s been a big factor me Mahomes when he’s thrown multiple interceptions he’s overcome that and they still won the game it’s like that

Who p is in a different world when the mistakes start to occur hey Kesha uh just called me live on the show and I just thought this could be a chance for Lisha wesling to just like join the program now live on the NFL uh on the NFL podcast Kea right

Nowry okay love you talk later wait who’s winning the game Lisha give us a Score gotta get over that I’m going to go Chief’s man okay that’s all the analysis we need Chief’s man there it is see you next week talk to you later ke that was nice I just just felt like that would be nice to get her into back back to the cess

Dog Point cess what you saying a good hearo ke no I we’re saying if you can just I I I found it interesting that you had Brock pie at number seven in your QB index and down at number nine was momes and that flips a script from what some

People think how this will play out who these quarterbacks are but you really I got one more shot end of season I got one more shot comes out next week here’s the thing though like you you said you’re only so confident in the in the Chiefs offense like I’m really impressed

With what they’ve done throughout the playoffs I mean they were fantastic and that’s all that matters to me at this point they were fantastic against the bills they were excellent I think overall against the Dolphins and they did show some vulnerability against the Ravens in the back half of that game

Where the blitz really affected Mahomes in a negative way but I did think that the the game script was a big part of that I mean they were throwing way short of the sticks on third down with a lead and being extremely conservative and so that that’s actually one of my big

Questions of this game is it it’s weird to say but like how aggressive Will Patrick Mahomes be because I tend to think Steve wils is going to look at that and he’s going to take some chances it’s not like they’re just going to be sitting back there in a shell coverage

Or anything they’re going to go for some situations where they leave their guys in one-onone situations and will we get a little more of an aggressive Patrick Mahomes instead of just the taking a profit Patrick Yeah I think that’s the only way that you get an early control of this game because

You cannot afford to do what the Ravens allowed themselves the position that they got into in that game which is Andy Reid’s opening script basically worked to near Perfection the Chiefs dominated time of possession they got the stops on defense they had control of that game before the Ravens were able to adjust

And shut down that offense so the the 49ers have to take it to them they have to do what the Ravens did in the second half early and then play off the adjustments from there but I think you know even back to your point mark what you said about Brock pie is is

Incredibly important to the value of Christian mcaffry to this game and I think Isaiah p as well I think the running game is going to factor way more into this than we’re probably talking about because of course it’s a quarterback driven league but I think if

If mcaffry ends up making the impact on the ground breaking tackles you know picking up extra yards and that sort of thing that’ll keep this offense afloat against the Chiefs defense have done a really good job of limiting opposing quarterbacks so even if P’s not on if

You can rely on mcaffrey heavily then they’ll have a fighting chance or even more than a Fighting Chance the same the other side I mean the idea of mcaffry getting what 25 27 30 touches like it’s all it’s in play because they you know he’s so incredible

And I just I love watching that guy play you know the No One turns just a zero to three yard gain or a 7 to 12 yard game like him and he’s I think almost it’s a little under the radar like H his ability to maybe just

Go off and have you know like that Marcus Allen type Super Bowl game like that’s certainly something I’m thinking about when I’m trying to decide who’s going to win this game now one other thing like kind of circling back to momes who’s been so good um as a

Scrambler and he’s healthy this year hasn’t another bad ankle uh that he had in the playoffs last year you know Ken the Niners you know last the last time these teams played which again is ancient history but they did a nice job uh for most of that game messing with Mahomes

And then he got loose and they had that nice comeback uh obviously to win that are they going to be able to keep Mahomes in check because that is the part of his game cuz he can’t beat you deep as much anymore he’s still an assassin inside the short yardage but

It’s Those runs that are ripping the hearts out like how the Niners do they have the personality think to handle that keep him in shut it’s the runs it’s the extension of the play it’s it’s not even that he has to cross the line of scrimmage but just buy more time to

Throw I mean I looked at that third and five that they converted against Baltimore early in that game where Travis Kelce essentially ran a route that was equivalent to when you take your kid to a diner and you get the kids menu it’s a piece of paper and they give

Them crayons and he just starts scribbling like that was the route that he ran and they pulled it off with an incredible completion that’s the stuff you really have to worry about if you’re worried about him actually getting out and running you’re in deep trouble they do have the Personnel for that obviously

Fred Warner is a great linebacker all around and he’s good in coverage and he’s fast enough but he’s not necessarily the Eraser of a mobile quarterback that you might expect him to be or want him you’re not going to put a spy on Mahomes right it’s not he’s not

That type of dude but like but if you can take away his scrambling and you already know Personnel they don’t really have that deep game then maybe you’re in business it’s just it’s an interesting to see how they combat it seem it seems like Mahomes also cuz it’s it’s you know

Plays breaking down it’s out of pocket stuff and he knows exactly when to go and where to go and he leads the league in first downs on the ground and like you think of other quarterbacks the Josh Allen is being like more dangerous on Tera F but it is Mahomes that like in

These huge moments last year and this year have done it with his feet when in the most critical third down moments and big yardage moments I thought of it by the way not not beehive it’s kitchen it’s the kitchen beeh house I’m using beehive because he’s back in this area

Where all these like enemies and things that can sting you are moving nest in war you know the bullets are flying Crea in a new term I didn’t know that I thought you were searching for kitchen it just came to me I mean obviously I went down a path that was you know

Needed a little in the honeycomb there I like that maybe that that’s a little feels like a sweet place I do remember uh you know when my cousin hit that beehive when we were back in the forest just looking looking back there when I was 10 years old and he didn’t know he

Was swatting a beehive and it’s not what you want to do and he got he got stung by 27 the plot of my girl say that’s yes uh but it really happened and he got stuck about 27 times I got it like two or three my other cousin got three um

Did you run outside the funeral home and Dan Arro came after you we just sprinted back no idea what we’re talking about Greg escapes again just two beas thingss 26 for the cousin well he’s the one that hit it so like you know my running ability was a big factor that that game

Also tripped him push trying to transition it back I’m trying to transition it back I do think the coach the coaches with the willingness to stick with the run is a big deal the most memorable one of the most memorable moments of that AFC Championship game to me was when the

Chiefs got to the six yd line in the second quarter and they just ran two inside runs in a row a foury run for Pacho to the two and then a two yard run for a touchdown it was like when was the last time we’ve ever seen the Chiefs do

That the second run was against 10 men in the Box you know there’s like oh you can’t run in the Box against eight it’s like you can if you’re if you want to if you’re a good running team uh they did it and I think both of these teams when

You look at the opposing off defenses that’s the vulnerability so Shanahan might have some regrets of how he handled uh his play calling in the Falcons uh Patriots Super Bowl Reed’s been knocked plenty for not sticking with it and so I I think that’s just one issue like who who can just be

Comfortable and and stay with it cuz we know know these quarterbacks they just refuse to get sacked so it’s tempting to to just throw the ball all the time but I I think that’s the way you attack these I mean that even marks a change from last year Super Bowl when the

Chiefs got down on the goal line and they ran the same play in opposite directions and one of them was the wrong formation and still worked and they scored two touchdowns that way like they didn’t do that this time around they trusted the Run game it’s a bit of a

Throwback that’s them adjusting to the fact that they know they might not have the Personnel to pull off what they were able to pull off in previous years one weird like they they did play a year ago in the regular season and there’s some connected tissue and some of it does not

Connect but Chiefs 44 49ers 23 the Chiefs ripped off six touchdowns on seven drives and it was close but then the the Chiefs went nuts at the end in the game in that game in the final three minutes is when Brock pie entered to throw his first NFL passes here they are

Again I like that that was kind of peak Peak chees but did you know it also Christian McCaffrey’s first game as a ner and did you know that Sam darnold is the first quarterback in the class of 2018 to make the Super Bowl okay what is that a backhanded shot at Baker Mayfield

What I saw Sam yesterday he ain’t here the proo MVP Sammy look confident does he look ready to go in if if Brock fails Sammy looks content he he he’s like Teddy Bridgewater on the sideline for the L he’s like don’t put me in I’m good

I’m cool I’m just happy to be here um shook here we go it’s time for the game of the week presented by DraftKings and I you know what should we choose well I don’t know it’s it’s up the there is no Pro Bowl game per se but the kick Tac

Toe is pretty Elite yeah but we’re going to go with Super Bowl 58 um what do you think give us your pick ners Niners favored by two money line minus 120 that moved a little bit slightly went down yeah out of the Tic Tac Zone as they say look I I talked

About confidence points earlier and that’s really what I tried to use to come to a conclusion on this and I don’t like to be the guy who’s like they’ve been here a million times so they’re definitely going to be better that means you’re going to be guy but I’m going to

Kind of be that guy because look the chief’s offense was terrible for most of the season they had glimpses and they weren’t good until the playoffs like you said Greg that’s all that matters I feel confident enough in them that if they find themselves in a situation where

It’s 20 to 23 they’re trailing by three it’s the fourth quarter and Patrick Mahomes has the ball and he authors a couple of signature moments and they score a go-ahead touchdown and it’s Isaiah Pacho running in from seven or eight yards out okay get specific speak your piece and it’s

2723 Chiefs over the NS they do it again okay you get it done I’m struggling with my pick we’re going to make the the rest of the heroes are going to pick on uh Friday’s program and uh you just gave me a lot to think about sh shooki what do you got

Going on the rest of this weekend super you got friends coming in any buddies anything uh we don’t have friends coming in but we uh we got some more coverage to finish up today we got some stuff to do tomorrow we’re going to go uh head

Over to the Madden Bowl watch the top two Madden competitors who are also best friends face off for the final championship game of their competitive series sell it baby best friends this is like when The Mega Powers exploded macho man but they’re not NFL players anymore

In the Madden B oh no no no no it’s all like highly competitive Esports kids Grey come on stupid good I’ve played them and they have destroyed me uh I mean I you know you don’t need to come after me for my Madden bonafides I covered the Madden Bull in

2008 for Patriots Giants and it’s just like it was just like at a bar it wasn’t that big of a party and you got to sat down and do segments with I did a segment with Marshon Lynch W he played Madden in the Madden Bowl so don’t come

At me with my Madden B Bonafide apparently you’ve you you put me in my place are and you’re going to be at the the Madden party as well yeah I’m going to stop by there on Friday going to do a stop by you know see El happens see if

Killer Mike gets out of jail we’re going to be able to Big Boy Green Day not in jail he’s not in jail he’s not he’s out he never was in jail got arrested but the pr Flack Greg Rosenthal I’m just I like to be factual I like to double

Double uh Source my facts maybe you’ve gotten a little loose with your reporting was he in jail no yes he was he was detained is that technically jail are you in jail in the back of the police car it’s not prison you’re tangling with the law though it’s he was arrested like

Words matter you know what’s wrong with you the Pod words matter um no that’s it words matter and uh I’m I’m happy to be here happy to sit down this is great we’ve done it remotely all year I love being in yes I I was texting with the boys earlier that

You you’re such an important part of our show every season on the flagship Sunday program so to be able to reunite in person and see the pipe up close by the way yeah you didn’t have to cover Falcon bucks this time you got a a real game

Yeah the game of the week not the uh F tier game a tier a tier baby cuz there’s only one left shooki um back into the the huddled masses yes I’m going to go fight my way out of here it took me forever to get down here all right and

Uh and don’t you know don’t let cuz Heely was throwing you under the bus a little bit he said oh he turned the wrong way and let him know that he said you got lost the way oh he got lost I was right outside i’ had to walk all

Down and around and upstairs so just so you know next time you see him that sometimes you know he’s he’s not looking out for your best interest so maybe if you have to say something face to face this is the time for that as well you know that that’s a baldon bald betrayal

And I’m going to have a long long hard thought think about that yeah all right very nice uh thank you Nick shook we’ll take a break and we’ll be back with the Mad Dog Beware of the the on sports radio 66 wow wow wow you throw that at me

There that’s 30 years ago oh my cut I think a deep cut of course that is the voice of the great Chris madg Russo I I stumbled upon on YouTube a clip of all the different stings from your old uh place of work and I was looking for the

One specific one that starts with Beware of the Dog which didn’t get as much run you’re right it was a little bit Mike probably didn’t like that one we were yeah of course we were just talking about uh you went to see you to and I

Was talking about I’m a big fan and they’re playing some deep cuts that would be the deep cut of the WFA you have to be a pretty big fan to know to Beware the Dog was part of that jingle that is again that has to be at least 20

25 years old that you found anyway I haven’t seen Mark’s Face glow like that all week you actually cured Mark’s sickness just by playing that you haven’t been feeling Mark Mark I’m not but I would say that uh it you know it brings you back to a childhood innocence

It’s it’s wonderful so thank you very good good to be with you guys again so good how we doing uh we’re doing great uh Chris because like uh and everyone now is talking about the Russo third act and everything we’ve been even if there was no you like the First Act better no

Well no well the there is a Nostalgia Factor but I think we’re all as fans of yours just so pumped up to see this and I’m curious I’m curious from a like a Fame standpoint because you know the you know the business better than anyone like terrestrial radio back in the day

WFAN everyone was listening to you and the dog and a and I’m sure you were couldn’t go out in public without people but now you’re on this National platform like are you more famous do you get recognized more now than you did in 1995

I I know I yes I try not to make too big a deal about it but you do notice it from a from a first take standpoint there’s much more notoriety I do a lot of things on first take that I’ve been doing Forever on the radio

And nobody say anything Forever on the radio what’s an example uh you know the example would be uh play shut up and play the game uh shut up and play I said that a million times uh really Steve I really Mike I mean I’ve said that a

Thousand times there is a lot of them you know my old sayings uh you know my RS you know the pauses you know I used to I I put the pregnant pause in there there’s a lot of little examples which I always I’m using now that I’ve always

Used and now people wow look at that I never heard of somebody do that before and I’ve been doing it since 1989 for course but now they’ve picked up on it so as a result you get notice Luma board Chris mad Dogo headlines the Mad Dog Sports Radio channel on SiriusXM and

Hosts the Channel’s anchor program Mad Dog Unleashed weekdays 3: P p.m. Eastern 2 p p.m. central noon Pacific you can also see him on M MLB Network’s high heat and of course as you just said ESPN’s First Take I think when I kind of watch The Arc of the roost so career

Which is now like let’s be honest you want to talk about like uh Mount Rushmore like in terms of longevity and not you are at a high level I think what surprises people and I think Mark what makes Chris have the success is you’re so real like that is who you are people

People are it’s authentic and the authenticity especially in not to take any shots at like that genre there’s so much of it is uh play acting and you’re saying things you maybe don’t believe but I know when when you’re you’re face up on the camera like Bono on the Z zo

TV tour like you are being yourself I think that really matters and like when we talk about the announcers like Romo when he had his big rise and olssen who gets a lot of Pop now it’s because they authentically love the game and you hear that as well you can’t fake that stuff

No 100% the gummies is a perfect example I say the gummies and that’s not embellishing it the gummies are real and you say that people people it’s relatable to people and I think that is probably the key to this little run here the fact that I say things that the

Average person wishes he could say or do and I say it for him and I say things that they’re uncharacteristically they don’t necessarily listen to now I said that on F and I said that on Sirus for 100 years now I say it on the TV it gets

Virus viral it gets the clips and if you get involved with ESPN you get in that machine and they turn it out so they you can’t miss it but not gummies before first take no no definitely not oh no you have to be sharp that’s after you

Sign your next contract that don’t care anymore you have to be sharp to be you can’t be foing around we used to work with Molly here I’m at NFL Network and I love she’s a great kid great the Molly expression or or whoever else you’re with whether Stephen A Smith they’re

Just like oh swagu swagu is a good one yeah they look at me really Chris this is what you’re going to say no I’ve gotten in trouble a couple of times but they for the most part allow you to do what you want to do and you know the

Other key to the whole thing relatab relatability is one passion is the other thing oh yeah you know I still enjoy it you know I still love watching a game and I watch the games regardless of working or not I would still watch the games that’s a big factor to like before

We get into this game there was a incredible rant that you had a couple weeks ago coming out of the Chiefs Ravens AFC title loss for Baltimore where you know like Greg is part of what You’ call the lamari and like a lot of

People see him as like the MVP and I see that I he I I’m a grew up a Browns fan so I have some issues with the Ravens but that experience in that playoff game with Lamar Jackson you seemed irked by what happened there and I thought you

Spoke from the heart and it’s like I think you connected with me in my own iate anger about the whole thing and how the season ended up for the Ravens I like this Mad Dog V uh gregy let’s go funny too I thought you were going to

Say Campbell because I did that thing with the field goals with him which got a lot of attention uh you’re right see the thing that would bother me about Lamar is remember I work when you’re working on ASP they all love Lamar he’s the greatest thing in the

World and he had won two playf games so I will go the exact contrast to that because I want to say hold no now that’s not put him in Shannon sharp said you know he wins this Super Bowl he’s going to be one of the alltime great Shannon

Take it easy first off he hasn’t won the two games yet and you know one Super Bowl doesn’t make it one of the greatest quarterbacks of all time and then he lays an egg he now listen they had a lot of issues in that game he wasn’t all of

It they flowers fumbled they were undisciplined the charger the Chiefs scored first possession so it wasn’t all him but he didn’t do anything in the game to rescue his team from their demise and that’s what a great quarterback has to do a great quarterback has to recognize all right

Now they’re paying me 40 million we we’re down 1710 we haven’t played well I got to do a job here I got to get this team down the field get some first downs stabilize the stabilize everything and he didn’t do that and he hasn’t been

Able to do that in a big game and that is the reason why when people put him on this unbelievable level I get burn I get turned off on it you know think about it he’s not better than burrow he’s not better than Josh Allen he’s not better

Than momes he’s probably not better than Matthew Stafford right Stafford’s he certainly was this year and Stafford was great and then Stafford against the against the Lions was tremendous he was heroic in the game and he won a Super Bowl if I ask you right now the biggest

Game of your life you want math Matthew Stafford or you want Lamar you’re taking Matthew Stafford you have to 370 yards against all liance bang you have to well this is a tough one cuz I love me some Stafford and thought he was a top three

MVP pick this here and wasn’t getting a lot of love I when I rewatched that Lamar game I realized just how poorly he played like watching the coach’s film and and seeing it again and taking the emotion out of it that my reaction to the game was partly what what you said

Which is there was a lot going on and there was of course that was true but it was also his worst game of the year he he was even more of a disaster I thought on the film he was worse than he thought I thought he was even worse than I

Thought and I’m a huge fan and that’s a tough spot for him cuz that’s just how the playoffs are but I also just think he’s a two-time MVP as a 26y old part of the reason everyone loves him is cuz there’s never been anyone like him he’s the greatest running quarterback in the

History of the league and he’s going to have to adjust his game because he’s no longer that guy if he was that guy still he would have scored on that on that play in the divisional round where he where he got free a little bit he might

Have had a bigger run when he caught his own uh catch uh he doesn’t have the explosive so he’s going to have to adjust but he’s 26 years old and I just get sick of these great players in the middle of their career having this same AR like conversation over and over and

Then they inevitably do win the title and they do play better in init because part of it’s not inevitable but it’s the same players over like we had it with LeBron we have it with Dirk Nowitzki we have it with a million you had it with

Paul P like you have it with a million different people who eventually get over people thought Matthew Stafford was one of the most overrated quarterbacks and it’s like it’s like don’t talk about him like that so much when it’s actually happening and understand there is an arc

To his career and he’s a 26-year-old who I believe cuz he’s in that organization is going to get chance after chance after chance and one of those it’s going to turn out different maybe he won’t even play that well in it like Payton Manning didn’t play that well in his

Winning Super Bowl in 2006 by the way no one ever brings that up it’s like to me you you st command get fired up you you measure quarterbacks by 16 game samples I think that’s the best way yeah you know I got to measure him uh in what

They do in a big game that’s how now the problem that Lamar has you know Mahomes is not going anywhere nor is Josh Allen nor is burrow yes and he’s not as good as those three guys stoud too is now Stroud’s another one good job Stroud’s another one and Herbert you know with

Harbaugh there he’s going he’s good just say Aaron Rogers to make the Jets feel better jet there you go I will say that good for you I’ll put the jet so you can make an argument that the beginning of next year in the AFC you could take five

Or six quarterbacks ahead of him you could take the big three big three no issues and then Rogers is four and Herbert is well Alan burrow and Mahomes he’s not as good as Josh Allen no way Burrow’s got to stay on the field I think if Lamar Jackson missed half of his career

So Four Seasons Seas burrow beat Mahomes on the road yep that to me you can’t but bur’s another example like people like that first playoff run burrow had he didn’t play that well he actually struck that was his worst three- game stretch of the year was was the AFC playoffs and he

Made the the Super Bowl so it’s it’s a te that’s when it gets a little unfair you’re right because we burrow doesn’t carry that around because the team the field goal kicker went nuts and they had that match play Super Bowl like he played and he also won a championship

Game a championship in college too I think that carries into it a little bit as well and I know he had an LSU he had a great team but he was great in college and they down he beat and he W against Sabin and Tua in Alabama scored 45

Points I think that comes into the you know the the feeling when you think of burrow is Maybe is played quite as well and you look at it down deep as the record would indicate but you think he’s played great because he’s had big games you know it’s kind of funny it’s like

That thing where you’re watching the TV inside the TV inside the TV it’s when Greg and I both in during that conversation go that’s fair that’s fair it’s like Chris Russo invented that’s fair that’s fair I say that I say a lot of those wack watch so we listened to

You so many years that that’s just ingrain to my head oh that’s fair that’s fair I do say that or let’s be honest Mike used to say let’s be honest all the time I say but I do like I’m going to take Kansas City in this game because I’m going to

Take mes and Reed over Shanahan and prie I and a kicker that kicker’s a good kicker talk we were talking yesterday and Moody stinks and I this close game Burkin he don’t miss kicks his but he’s incredible and bad weather too in 50 in minus 50 degree weather he goes

Out there and makes kicks I like him I think the Chiefs win a close game all right we before we let you go Chris we always need to dig in on what what’s Chris wash and what there’s more to Russo especially you know the gummies

Get popped uh Mark you had you had heard something around Chris you guys share a passion for something well Dan and I along had a you know debate an ongoing debate about the JFK assassination I oh jeez yeah all right and um you know we’re with ihart radio and we know that

Rob Riner did at the JFK I had and I had him on for an hour good just just kind of Wonder there’s also this thing floating out there where they have um Duo pictures of Brock pie with various pictures of Lee Harvey o look there are

Places where they do so I was just sort of wondering with the whole and some people think Brock P’s a py so you know there well there you go where are you with the whole JFK and oswal’s birthday is the same as mine 1018 really yes go

Ahead okay well where are you with the whole where are you on I mean the Riner podcast is excellent I haven’t heard the last two yet uh there is no doubt in my mind if anybody thinks for one second that that Lee jav oswood there is evidence that he may have not even

Killed that cop outside tip it outside that uh that movie theater there’s evidence you know they did you know that they found two wallets and the police both said they were leh jave oswal’s two you found two wallets they found one at the scene at the at the thing uh at the

Uh at the movie theater and they found one in the in the depository I mean come on two wallets this wasn’t a guy with a lot of money and he was he was a CIA operative well there’s a picture of him socalled in a CIA CIA file down in like

Nicaragua but there’s another one overseas and it’s basically like the double of Mike dika that they’re trying to tell us is Lee Harvey osw a mustachioed heavy set man and that they’re passing that off as Lee Harvey ‘s Dad I need remember again if anybody

Says I don’t oswal did it by himself you have to answer me this one question okay why did Jack Ruby kill him Jack Ruby didn’t kill him because he was trying to prevent dismay for the Jaclyn Kennedy and the kennedies I feel bad for him the Ruby situation is that that’s fair

That’s fair I I have to say my my stance is been and Mark hates it and you do as well I’m sure now that someone and I don’t know where Greg stands on this but we’re going to hear from Greg on it too but there’s something um destabilizing

To us as Americans to society to think someone so inconsequential as Oswald can change the world with with a shot from the depository so in the you your nature is to say well no that couldn’t be it it has to be a larger conspiracy because this is the president president of the

United States this is one of this the most powerful men in the world and a a special person I Nam my son after John Kennedy Jack um but I understand there’s there’s like is is there someone in the grass you know I think there are you know rer thinks there’s about three or

Four Shooters you know the Warren Commission 1976 you know who ran that Warren Commission Alan dullas he was in charge of all the information they received you know Alan dullas is the guy that Kennedy fired for the Bay of Pigs now how the hell is that

I mean how is he the guy that is doing a war commission who in 1964 said that LE AIO was an only sh there’s too much smoke there to think they did it by himself okay well I I’ve got you disagree go ahead Greg no I don’t I

Thinks Lamar Jackson did not to yeah I I don’t have a take on this because I’m uninformed regrettably in general about this topic but I do have a not it’s not a conspiracy it’s something that I’ve done some reporting on myself Dan likes to think of himself as the ATN

Med am um and I have sources in this very building that tells me Chris Mad Dog Russo was involved in what we’ll call an incident yesterday um coming into the building I was where he was very upset that they were trying to take the tags off of his good job uh backpack

Did you hear about this and I want to hear what happened here was can you confirm this what is going I that bag right there that you see is a bag that I’ve had for a long time nice Lea ni strap those little those little uh tags

There at the top those yellow and green tags I’ve had that bag for 25 years and so a lot maybe 20 years a lot of the tags I had on that bag were from events that I had been at whether World Series Super Bowl so they had a little

Sentimental value sure yeah I brought the bag Monday nobody says a word I come in Tuesday and the guy’s there at the X-ray machine well we got to take the tags off I said what you got to why you got to take the tags off well we got to

Take them off we were assigned to him so why didn’t you take them off yesterday if you would have told me that I would have left the bag here today and not bought the bag well we got so they grab scissors and they start cutting the

Cutting the tags so I was upset and I gave him and I never do this I gave him one of those don’t you watch First Take deals or you gave I hate that don’t you know who I am and the answer was no so

As a result I got my bags I got bag tags cut matter of fact I have all the tags in the compartment there I was going to use it yesterday as a what I’m mad about segment but I didn’t get around to it but I was annoyed that and I noticed in

The last two days they didn’t have anybody cutting with the scissor there was nobody there doing that on Wednesday and Thursday yet there were Tuesday which I can’t understand so my little tags that I’ve had on that Dopey bag for 20 years 15 or 18 of them World Series

NBA Finals US Open you know they put the tag on when they go go through the X-ray machine with the little bag put a little tag on it all of them are gone so that’s what bothered me Greg good job on your part this this is an

Exclusive you know that you didn’t know that I got scooped on that I that I didn’t want to tell them good job well and that guy has been fired now so I wonder what he does next I hope he wasn’t and that’s somebody said Chris really you’re making a big deal about

Your stupid tags and it only was five minutes Greg caught the bad five minutes so I deserve it I have to give him the credit for digging it up there you go nice job Greg you’re a muck rer is what you are I was not there personally

Journalism all right you guys have been doing this show a long time how long this is season 11 this is you g you you on what once a week during the season or once every you other the game or five days a week we we do what five shows a

Week five shows a week during the season five shows Monday through Friday other digital stuff Sun Sunday nights you know after the games we got a show Monday night after after the Prime Time games we have a show and then a couple during and if you want an NFL Plus subscription

Uh we can get that to you so words you work two shows a week you’ll work Sunday night and Monday night and then two other shows during the week yeah Tuesday Thursday yeah how about when is a Saturday game at the end of the year you work those days too Detroit Dallas on

New Year’s on New Year’s Eve did you work that those are those are tough and we got you got young kids and everything these for the holidays they keep on building out the schedule J I mean a lot of mouths to feed for the NFL off season

Though too four shows a week during the off season we crank good for you how many how long is each show oh they’re getting longer by year 60 to 80 minutes that’s a hell of a job that’s a good effort thank you Mr Russo and it it does sincerely mean a lot com

You don’t give me that nonsense it’s true I mean the tag incident that that that danger your reputation we’re now restoring it right now all right again check out Mad Dog on serus and everywhere else where he is blown up he’s a superstar and we’re happy to have

You every year it’s a great you guys do a great job who do you like in the game we have to we have to announce it tomorrow what does it really matter we can I can’t say until I picked I picked Chiefs ners before the year and picked

The ners to win off a pick six in the final two minutes and so that’s where I’m going he’s stay give you better forgetting it I have the chiefs 2317 I’m about betting against I like that you have the number low I got a 27

2720 Chiefs come on hey I went under I went under the number all right you the best guys thank you Budd all right welcome back and I mean mad dog is the best also the best if you are a football fan if you love the game and the history of the game

Just looking over my right shoulder and there he is Doug William Super Bowl 22 MVP the first uh black quarterback to win a Super Bowl unbelievable story to him just it’s everywhere it’s all around us it’s almost like um if you lived in a land with only hot people hot people

Aren’t hot anymore because like everywhere you turn there’s like an NFL icon walking by about and and then then a second then a third and it’s like it’s almost over sensitive over sensory explosion I I was almost 9 years old for that Super Bowl and that’s the first one

I really remember when it happened and that actually is a good example and I think I thought I thought it at the time too like blowouts can be entertaining cuz I remember when that was happening thinking like this is crazy this is great touchdown touchdown touchdown and

It was just like this this fire show it’s a good and surpr it’s a good topic cuz I remember I was seven and I was not young enough to be plugged in but I remember running through the living room uh with my cousin Matt and my Uncle Bob and my

Dad were watching the game and the Broncos grew up 10 nothing yeah and then we and then we came back in from outside and or wherever we were and all of a sudden it was like 3510 well it was I think they scored 35 in the second quarter that broke records that’s what

It was where that blowout that quarter was so exhilarating in a like Timmy Smith the running back who had been a non factor came but I will tell you one thing I watched that game in horror because it was two weeks before that the Broncos KN the Browns in the drive the

Drive no the fumble it was the fumble and so it was like I’m watching the Broncos get the doors blown off thinking like wait a minute right the Cleveland Browns could have taken this team so anyways anyway and then the first one I remember truly watching uh was uh

Bengals ners and I always remember like thinking it was really cool that I was watching with my dad and then the the start of the bud bow that was the first Bud ball commercials which I was like as invested in the bud bow as I was Tim

Crum’s broken leg which was right they almost pulled it off Cincinnati anyway mad dog was an excellent guest you knew he was going to be gregy I got to say that was incredible reporting and it is on brand uh you took the risk to bring

It up um you don’t know how it’s going to go because that was a moment and he was acknowledging Chris that it was kind of Diva Behavior he was fired up um but it was something that had to be uncovered that’s the that’s the the job

Of a true joural so I respect that he doesn’t strike me as a guy who takes things like too personally you know what I like he’s got to he’s got to fire back he’s going to have fun with it I uh I was watching his you know facial

Expression as Greg was telling that story and didn’t seem too like too Disturbed it could be his last appearance on the show but that would be I guess we’ll find out GRE we’ll find out next year this was an incredible SAU dog spectacular by the way I

Mean they I wouldn’t say they both had the same level of energy um between sa and and Chris Russo but different Vibes different Vibes different people different places in their lives but both Titans in their respective uh genres all right and by the way what are you cess

Dog what are we doing what are we doing business you picked this Super Bowl before the season I picked it correctly why are why are we hearing that as an a comment made off the cuff in the middle of that interview I would have loved to lead with that all

Week that’s that’s that’s branding baby I mean two things I was alerted to it I didn’t even remember I picked that and then um people were saying like you know use it as a explosive secret weapon at some point I could be wrong but I think

We did talk about this on the show last week so I don’t know I don’t believe very briefly that you mentioned perhaps but I mean I a good job that’s a good job I you I also didn’t know that I did and you know when you make those picks

Back in August and so I don’t cling on to them I know like I don’t I’m not on you’re on a pick show Greg and like I to me it’s like I made it in August it happened early in the morning I’m still holding out hope for my Eagles Chargers

Banger I I had uh Jets uh which you know I get why you did that V ners and but again by the transitive properties of the conversation with SAU today it really is kind of jets Niners because we should have eaten the chief didn’t even really buy into your theory but I don’t

Tough to get SAU to buy into a lot of the what did he say he said reality is like important or something like that he’s into reality I think reality is overated that’s like Fair also notable that he didn’t know who Martin Scorsese or quent and Tarantino were but uh he’s

Much younger than us he is I think that’s from A Different World um all right so so good job by you on the prediction and we’re going to have our you got to stick the landing though of course now now we need to know uh who

You will pick to win the Super Bowl and we’ll we’ll share those picks on tomorrow’s show um we’re also going to have uh more fun guests so just uh make sure you you check out our Friday show our last show before the Super Bowl and and Mark we’ve been concerned about your

Health the last couple days uh it’s come up in front of guests they seem to be alarmed when they realized how close a sick person is to them uh Greg and I are on some level alarmed knowing there’s a big weekend ahead of um but you are

Going and this is an amazing thing you’re going to NFL honors tonight I do not believe I will be going to that what I don’t I think I thought you going suited and booted tonight like the person I was planning to go with is also

You know in dire straight so we will see how any of that well I’ll let you know maybe it’s it’s early in the day but all right if I go I will if go it’s not that early it starts in like 2 or three hours

Hours it seems like a long shot if I go I will file a report that’s what we’re looking for all right thank you to everybody for listening uh like we said we’ll be back Friday and then the weekend and then the big game we’re getting closer day by day

Until then you know what you got to do heat the call