MONDAY LIVE – 2024 PGA SHOW ROUNDUP

Join Simon and Stuart, rounding up the 2024 PGA Show latest and greatest from James and Simon’s “work trip” to Orlando last week 😁

Welcome along to another Monday live here at Precision golf 6 p.m. if you’re a new viewer this is what we do on a Monday evening round up what goes on in the world of golf hit some golf clubs have a general chat and Simon and James

Are back from their holiday so we’ve got the trade show to talk about how was it warm actually yeah there’s it was perfect wether to be indoors in a convention hall yeah it’s great yeah um no it’s it’s always it is a busy week contrary to what everyone believes um

And actually it was one of those sort of events that not many people know how it actually works you literally here we have the uh a dinner Monday evening had this year whereas normally Monday would be ACA doing a golf day testing in the morning test their products out and then

Those who take their clubs play in the afternoon which we don’t take our clubs at one round um and then Tuesday’s demo day uh Orange County National it’s got a the the biggest range in the US it’s about 350 yard diameter and you can go around it looking at some of the product

And we use that day in particular to get some recordings done some videos uh and then Wednesday Thursday in the conventional all day and trying to avoid eating the food that’s in there because it’s horrific so we’ll get into a little bit more of that in a moment as usual

We’ve got the iPad to hand now we’ve got Neil zerson asking have we got the lease line well the lease line is in the building does exist it does exist but we’re not sure it’s plugged in yet or not we had we had a chat arrive last

Week and he talked to me in acronyms about everything um technical with the Le signs I I was waiting for him to pause so I could walk away so we’re not quite sure whether it’s hooked up or not but the internet upload speed is better than normal so we’re hoping it’s it’s

It’s all it’s all set in the world of golf just gone toon Allison wins yeah that’s a good win good I mean he he hold I mean he 62 63 second and third rounds and just hold the world um he looked very very impressive actually um and it

Got close at one point and then he made eagle and just went away with it very very impressive had a had a funny career to be honest he it sort of dropped off sort of the edge of the cliff over the last four or five years Rider

Cup is he R he’s a rer cuper oh he’s definitely a rer cuper yes absolutely but but he’s he’s he’s gone a little bit quiet in in the form hasn’t won for a couple of years he was off off tour for a couple of years for a misdemeanor was

On a plane ah right there was there was an incident on a plane um and so actually to come back from that that’s right I remember to come back from that and to win is it a couple of times or and if it’s not if it’s not more than

Just this one that he’s been right up there a few times just just look looks really really solid I’ve completely forgotten about that yeah and so absolutely I mean look played some great golf got himself back into shape in the US amateur winning well yeah um so

Obviously that was when you on hold y um technically went on hold on hold at that point we were kind of in the air got it I mean how how impressive is that I think was mikkelson was the last Lowry at the Irish open but Molson the last

One in the US to win I mean I like Justin Thomas’s comment of you know an amateur you didn’t didn’t expect to have to worry about an amateur and he just just totally impressive he just he was the best you know he sounds like a stupid Co he was just the best player

Out there that week really impressive again just goes to say show that amateur golfers are not amateur golfers I mean we we’ve labeled them as amateur golfers for a long time and I think we need to find a way of of almost pushing that label aside because they just not

Amateur golfers there’s a as a as a world tour for amateurs there’s an there’s a world order of Merit they’re just not amate golfers they are have been playing an I once a fortnite exactly they are they’re effectively Pros in all but earning money I mean they’re through the college careers you

Know the fitness the nutrition the practice the structuring of their whole lives around it is is professional they just happen to be at school at the same time very much so very much so and I think he just goes to show I think as much as the coaching has come on I think

The fact that we get so much access now to the best players in the world and they get to mimic these players in everything the the way they swing the way they carry themselves the way they apply themselves and that’s why I think we’re the best players in the world

Really they know that they’re role models and they do have a huge impact on these on these young players the these youngsters are are ready I mean I’ve got a young lad that I coach Harry who is 11 years old and if he was a little bit

Taller and A Little Bit Stronger he would be ready to go he practices a lot he’s got all of the mimics he he knows all of his track man data it is incredible we’ll get him on the show we must get him on the show a bit like

Christos just grown up in a completely different generation and that’s the thing you say they they know their data we kind of go well it feels like I’m doing that you’d hit look at the divot pattern and go you know hit your balls down the practice ground or the range

And you’d you’d find a way but we didn’t we didn’t know what we were doing now you know what you’re doing to the0 one of a degree you you know your spin you know your flight you know your yardages we went right let’s Pace it out I hope

My strides like yeah exactly it’s um I mean Harry was talking Harry was talking about he got fitted and then we’ve done some work on his game he’s got just a little bit a little bit stronger and in all of a sudden the driver was was too

High we we’ve got his launch up now the SP spin rates a little bit too much and we’ve given him a head that’s from 12° down to 10° but he was so upset coming in he says Stuart my driver is one my drivers were gave him a different head

And it was like the sun lit up you know but it just goes to show you he knows what spin rates he should have he knows what long I mean 11 years old it’s just which end of the club to hold at that age absolutely so congrats to Kate um

Our uh world champion yeah yeah and High Rock uh Manchester champ winner uh just recently come back Saturday this Saturday just gone back she beat PB I think was it 2 and a half minutes two minutes yeah which is not which is I mean it’s a lot but go yeah insane High

Rocks it’s I mean it’s been going for a long time but it’s really starting to get some momentum Now isn’t it and it’s something that has grabbed a lot of people from Crossfit so kind of migrated CrossFit sort of Waits and and I think the the thing for amateur doing CrossFit

Is it’s it’s you know it’s like me going to a gym and and trying to lift a weight my my tiny little wrists can’t deal with anything let alone some weights and if I get your te if you get your Technique wrong you get injuries so HX is more

Engine based it’s a it’s a um you do eight batches of one kilometer runs then sled push and pull you know sandbag lunges burpees all kinds of horrific things you do to yourself um I me Kate’s been doing it I think James is it 18

Months or so now season yes so only in the second season and you we um we knew we knew when you know someone is very very fit and then you see them win a world championship you kind of realize that that it it puts a reality on where

They’re at and um I mean just you she’s she’s unbelievable unbelievable and can take take us off to some very dark places spectacular performance and it’s great for golf of course being fit and healthy and dynamic and all of these movement P patterns say explosive stuff absolutely good for your golf so well

Done to her doesn’t necessarily mean I’m going to be doing a high rocks no well I mean you’ve had a week do some training but yeah we’ve been lifting up cocktails all week um I think the other bit that was really good from this last weekend

Uh result wise is how great to see pavon and hoard one or two at Tory Pines they just got their us card and now they’ve G over and then show them how to do it at one of the biggest tournaments on a US Open of course I thought was fabulous um

Great for them to go and get that result and and again it used to be back in the day that the PJ tour was a real Step Up you with the Rolex events you know the big players coming over and then being able to get into those events just shows

That there’s a different mentality now with golfers and I I think that was one hell of a field absolutely one of their flag yeah they always get a good strong field at all we don’t they and and and the the weather can often be quite tricky as well gets quite cold depending

On when first coule days were pretty hardd actually yeah the the the poor de yeah I know only only paying in 20 de yeah so let’s see if we’ve got any questions coming in uh n moski hi guys how do you find ping 10K compared to the

430 LST I found the 10K slightly lower spin but High launch both 10 and a half degrees of Loft this is uh just before Simon gets into that this is how we work on a Monday evening you fire in questions Simon answers we hit on the

Mat um and we invariably get caught up in who can swing the club faster and the ball starts going all over the place but that’s generally how it works so anything that you would like us to hit to test any questions you have do to

Find them in we’ got um James behind the drums there just coming off a hangover for a week for those cocktails but he’s there as well if you need anything he’s got he’s got two hangovers by the sounds of it with those fingers that he just poked up at

Me but one for each of them but anyway on to the question so so it is interesting that 10K was lower spin for you than LS because in theory it should be the other way around but I think what this really goes to show is uh and you

Look at the other brands you know Taylor Made titless new they’ve all got each of the tailor made models is being used by a tour player so you know we’re always not in the ls um was Tommy fleet was in the LS and morar was using the max in

The same way the the 10K is more stable more forgiving it’s it’s lighter in the middle more weight back uh which all day long you’d say yes a bit more launch but a bit more spin um and in theory the ls would spin less because the weights forward but ultimately it’s just what

Works for you um we’re certainly seeing a lot of stability on the 10K which is what it’s designed for um I think the thing we’re noticing with all pretty much all the brands now is where they’re going really light in the center and putting a lot of weight back back there

Are some players it really doesn’t work for and I’m one of them in that it can drop the face open and that’s something we’re seeing quite a lot so it might be that the latest heads the more forgiving ones actually are less stable directionally for you because weight

Forward might swing better so don’t always go just for the most forgiving one yeah speaking of 10K uh shameful plug just got reaching 10K on my Golf Channel over on the other side so do go and check that out anyway Benjamin you got a run T I know that be silly

Benjamin Ogden what are the best irons for forgiveness but more traditionally lofted uh most forgiving irons seem Loft jacked yeah they are uh and that’s one of the almost one of the issues currently is that you you’re seeing Brands launch HL High launch IRS because they put tungsten the soul to get the

Launch up and then they deal off them two or three degrees which takes all the spin off so um it’s a very good question about getting traditional lofs you’re going to struggle to find traditional Lofts you can get something like the i230 on the retrospect with a six on up

Around 30° um honestly the most forgiving heads are all going to be 27 28 degrees um M the 245s uh if you can get them weakened off you might get them up to 29 2829 but that’s going to be your limit on on Loft for most of those heads

Um I think now you can get away with in theory of something less forgiving head like a T100 actually now with the tungsten heel and Toes is actually pretty stable so I 30 that’s certainly another one which is definitely good across the face so you don’t have to go

Quite as forgiving as you used to in terms of head shape um so it’s certainly not worth counting out some of the more kind of mid-range sort of players forgiving players heads because that could help you get the Loft but you might still get the stability you’re not

Expecting very good John Pucket says uh is the balance point on the HBP RPG more like the TR line or is it the counter balance shaft um it’s a little higher balanc than the TR assuming meaning Ventus TR um so the Ventus TR is not a counterbalance it’s very very this

Neutral might be kind of marginally uper the the high balance on the r GP you got me hgp R RPG have a conversation with the guy that was fitting the internet during the week that’s all that’s how the the RPG HBP is a little higher

Balance um so yeah it is going to swing a little bit lighter it’s not a heavily counterbalanced shaft not like a nemesis or tensei orange but it’s higher balanced than the t than the TR very good so we obviously any more questions coming in feel free to fire them in the

Trade show it’s been going for a long time down in Orlando Florida uh International Drive yep big big Convention Center so huge yeah I mean we were just talking off camera about how two-thirds of it is now clothing and and that’s that side yeah a lot of accessories and apparel um holiday

Destinations um you get a load of you know buggies um made to look like Hummers and combat colored stuff and it’s but it is a v I think if I I want to say it’s about a kilometer one end to the other that that might be a bit of an

Exaggeration but it is a very very very big convention hall um and um yeah it’s I think it the first time you go you’re amazed at how how big it actually so what’s the agenda for you guys when you go over I mean after you’ve after you’ve

Arrived first day is Monday uh so Monday yeah so the official officially starts on Tuesday with they called demo day so it start for us apart from this year Acura do a um a kind of a day at Orange Tree which is a private course there and

They set up in the morning on the Range this some this is on Monday on the Monday yeah so there’s some product talk and going over the new lines what’s changing in the lines for True Temper and Acura um any cocktails involved in this part of the trip no no no nothing

Just yet not not yet that’ll be that’ll be later on the day um so you go over the product inside um and then go outside to the range to to go over the few kind of presentations on the different areas hit the product so we we’ use that again to do video content

Um and then they do like a a shotgun round a golf in the afternoon oh um which isfe for us to take a club to one round is not going to happen so we generally then duck out and have a an afternoon of slight Leisure or then a

Dinner organized with someone so that would be the the only bit of time off that’s the Monday and then the Tuesday that’s when you’re on the Range the the double range yeah so it’s it’s a a complete circle range wise it’s I think it’s 350 yards in diameter

Um James is being funny about Craig David song um um so go to the range on Tuesday and I say literally you go through pretty much 270 degrees of it I have you know we’ve got Muno and Cobra and tit list and uh ping and then some sha companies

Some uh teaching Aid companies um how many balls did you hit that day not that many not that many no um so there’s you’ve got the the main range in the middle and then you got about four or five little kind of greens at the back

Where you do so Voki did one the video with um with Cory Gerard from vogi on one of those so Cleveland strion have one k have another um and that that used to be the day that we would tweet pictures of something that was that no

One has seen before um you know out hopefully out in the summer than the cold cloudy windy day it’s always it’s always windy always windy always windy you just pray this year was perfect it was cloudy and it was 20° um so you don’t get burned to a crisp and end up

That color which does happen if it’s sunny um and there was one year a storm came through so um yep KL barks was there so they got Cobra got you carb and a couple the long driving guys to come in and do a display they do they do some

Sort of events so normally like Lexi Thompson’s been there in the past with Cobra U Matt Fitzpatrick was was there as well he was on the stand in the show all on Wednesday morning signing autographs and things as well so the brands like to get someone in there just

As a bit of a you know Show and Tell I mean go golf live for those of you that would remember golf live was around for three or four years and it was a nice time for people to see equipment yeah there was a bit of a

Who’s who on the Range that was a public one absolutely absolutely but it was it was a collection of golf manufacturers in a big environment big arena with tour players doing their thing as well it was a celebration of golf I mean whilst this isn’t a public event it’s still a bit of

A celebration of golf and it’s nice to see the manufacturers getting together the who’s who within the industry and it’s good for people that are retailing the product that work within I think I think a lot more of that could be done I think that’s where so there was with

Titus had um Brad Faxon and Bob Voki doing a sort of a media Pro of chat out the range we saw Henrik Stenson wandering around the Wednesday morning Brian har was there with Titus doing a presentation about so there is stuff like that going on a lot of coaching

Seminars are done and that’s where you see some of some of those guys um but I think things like that would actually particularly on demo day they could do more with it and I think that’s a side I think for me is a bit disappointing that

Hasn’t been moved on um there was you know notes to be a little bit more space the exhibitors get charged an awful lot a huge amount to go there we go free if you book in before a certain certain date you don’t pay I think we should pay

You they charge you relatively normal amount $3 $50 a person you can then charge the exhibitors less get more of them in and then you get more people in and and actually I think potentially make a better a better show of it because demo day was noticeably a little

Bit more spaced out this year interesting we’ve got a question in from Neils he says what was the most surprising in this year’s PJ show for you most surprising um wether surprising is the right word for it but I think most um I think the most development the the quickest

Development we’ve seen from products is and I was saying to you earlier was some of the apps for tracking biomechanics body parts so actually from a coaching point of view biome mechanics point of view where you know don’t have to put bits stick things to you to track your

Body movement you can basically hold an iPhone and an app and it’ll it’ll show your um your scal structure um through kind of it they’re already picking up points on your hips your shoulders your sternum um and some of the detail and the depth of that analysis can go into

You possibly too much but it can start to show how you’re using forces just by the movement of the body and and the acceleration rates uh and I think there’s a that’s where to me the biggest development in the industry has been the last years interesting

Stuff m n MOSI would like us to compare the 430 LST and the 10K 430 let me get those off off you go so Tony evening guys how does this year’s red Ventus standard shaft compare to a blue Ventus standard shaft from a couple of years ago if at

All uh I might need you to repeat the question when I come back over that’s fine I can do that Richard Skinner asks can you do a comparison with a caway smoke Triple Diamond driver with the Nitro shaft and the Ventus TR blue they’ve got us hitting a

Lot of balls tonight wow they they make it ear a ear a crust um the first one of the Ventus was it Ventus red versus yeah so blue uh so it was um a red Ventus standard shaft yeah 5r compared to a Ventus standard shaft 5r from a couple

Of years ago um do you mean if you mean the standard the first generation blue and red how does this year’s red Ventus compared to a blue Ventus standard shaft from a couple of years ago um so the initial Ventus line hasn’t changed and that all that all count there’s a there

An update to the Ventus line coming um tested it out it’s a velor plus so they’ve updated the velor material there will be there’s a blue is the first one that’s going to launch inevitably there will be at some point a red and the black but the ones that you’re talking

About are still in the line and will continue for another year or two I’d imagine um so yeah so no real changes the the blue and the red as they came out originally are still in the line and still perform exactly the same as long

As they got the word VOR on the tip they are the proper ones if they don’t then they’re uh then they’re not then they’re not then they’re the stock standard ones that have been used in some of the standard product right um and they are not the same product so you’re looking

For velor if you’re got to have the word velor at the bottom of the shaft yeah yeah one of our Fitters Mark there just cruising around the back want to get in on the action are you no you sure okay and the oh the second one was more comparison that’s it there’s a

Comparison yeah and we’ve got mes at evening chaps given the success of the US Collegiate system in producing players why aren’t we able to do something similar in you in Europe I I think some of it is um in the UK it’s weather yeah yeah in Europe it’s

Weather some of it is you’ve got they can go to any part of the country they don’t need visas they don’t need passports the the colleges are so well funded you know there is so much funding for these these um the the gulf what you call it um divisions um

You know it’s it’s a it’s a big thing yeah it’s a big thing in the US to give to donate to the college and you get a room named after you or whatever but it’s they donate a huge amount of money to the to the universities and that

Funding just very hard to achieve here as well as the Year Round Golf and because it’s established now in the US that that’s where the best players go because of the structure of the system it’s just very very hard to compete yep agreed all right got get the old get what yeah I

Mean this could hurt you’ve had a week’s worth of buffet standing around yeah the Prett much you come away from that week with a stiff low back CU you stood around yeah talking well standing at the bar is is he not good for your back is

It well we used to when we were younger we used to go out in the evenings now we we we we had um dinners with um Ralph who runs Oben um Victor who owns VA composits um another on Monday evening with with with a group in the states um

Actually we we’d really quite like an early night getting getting I know where is me get the violin out so I’m going to start with the ls lovely so both of these are 10 and a half just so using the same head cuz we got the 10 and half in the

10K little high on the face but Robin Morton has asked while you’re hitting balls can you show me why the right elbow is going behind me thank you I will do that after you’ve done that yeah no problem little bit here side actually for a slight heel side strike that stayed at

2,500 so not bad do one more of those some nice attack angle so the first one I got a little bit low on the face and took a load of spin-off so that had a bit of a knuckle on it oh that’s so far out the toe I’ve

Been doing that this I hit a couple of balls earlier just well look it hasn’t had a I got it it’s a great miss yeah it’s not had a det ball speed but kept the spinning check that was me doing that so those those of you out there

That are keep those numbers up on the screen there J if you can those of you oh okay those of you that are of with trapman data was open 3.8 to the path rter of a strike it should have had some fade on it but because Simon hit it out the toe

It kept it dead straight those of face those of you that are down the range working on a golf swing you might want to think about how influential the strike out the heel or the toe is on ballf flight CU as as we said that should have had significant

Bend to the right in the sky but out the toe yeah what what it’s done actually that toe strike has kept the flight efficient so it hasn’t really lost me much even though it was a horrific strike that’s the tow strike there we pop that up on the screen

Jay you can see that’s the toe it’s been off been out the toe by 17 mm so top right hand corner which drags the spin rate down yeah and I think it’s fair to say the Ping of the low spin heads the Ping head is one of the most

Stable off center so um one of the things that we’ll see with this is for me weight forward swings better because I I have a little bit of a I can get a little bit kind of dropped and under and looped in that way that weight back can

Found the face open for me so I know that I swing a weight forward head a little bit better because it doesn’t drop under sure sure very good 10K so Benjamin Ogden has asked best iron shaft for increased launch and spin around the 120 g mark I used lighter

Shafts to help this in the past but everything went left okay yes so I mean that that’s that’s a that’s a great comment so it shows um yeah that light doesn’t necessarily mean higher it can mean a lot further left um the KBS the 120s aren’t bad I mean

The shaft alone in terms of what it bends is not going to create a an extra give you an extra degree and a half the bend profile in steel particularly that weight or CH that weight they’re not they’re not bending enough like on driver with how far the center of

Gravity is off the shaft it can it can bend forward as far as the CG is off the shaft on a n you’re looking at minuscule amounts so the shaft alone won’t kick it up through Bend profile um actually you’re better off if you’re really looking to change flight you’re better

Off looking at the head get the shaft to help you time it and strike it cleanly because that will give you ball speed you’ll get the bottom of the ball you’ll get the as much flight as you can from your action but you’re more likely to

See head style giving you more flatten J that’s actually quite a good one from a swing point of because I hit that well and that’s at 27 on spin rather than 23 yeah so I’ve got about 400 revs more spin whilst a very stable swing out of

The 10K um it’s got notably more spin for me which is what in theory should happen I’ll do one more get it well and I’ll just address the the spin Nice Nice Shot I I’ll address the the right arm so um we had a question in Robin Morton while you’re

Hitting balls can you show me why my right elbow is going behind me so when I’m going to check the other one and get the other heads that we want people talk about the right elbow going behind them they’re talking about it going back in this direction or getting trapped back

Behind couple of areas that you would want to look at first of all hit rotation hit rotation makes the chest rotate so if you’re short in Hip rotation and you move move laterally that means that you’ll get short in shoulder rotation now if you’re short in shoulder rotation and you want to keep

Your arms in front of you you’d have an incredibly short back swing so that’s where you tend to see the arms overrun because you’re short in Hip turn now all of a sudden I increase hip turn now I can get the handle more out in front of

Me the other reason why you might get a right elbow that comes back is because when the right hand is too strong it sits too much underneath the golf club it will tend to make your right arm try to rotate internally and when the right arm inter rotates internally it normally

Gets sucked back across the body because you would never take the arm out this way exter internally rotate because you just hit too much down on it so make sure that that right hand doesn’t get too much under make sure the right hand sits a little bit more on top and then

What you want to try to feel is a little bit more external rotation which will make that right elbow kick a little bit more in front of you the right elbow is simply a symptom of what’s going on with the handle so think about a little bit more external forearm rotation and then

Add a little bit more hip rotation and then before you know it you’re in a pretty decent top of the back swing so either forearm rotation or a little bit of hip turn will cure your right elbow coming back behind you speaking hieroglyphics there you go there you go

Right so just got the uh the AI smoke triple diamond and we got the Venus TR BL these names I mean these names what are they all about smoke Triple Diamond I I mean I love them I love them smoke the the bottom yeah it kind of is meant

To look like kind of smoke I mean there someone very unkindly said it looks like a kitchen surface um it worked which you know they’re all unique because the pattern of the way that the forged com I love I love the look at it I think it

Looks it’s a good looking head yeah I think behind the ball so low spin head um so you’re going to hit the TR blue first um and then yeah let you know what we see from a I think also you know how they how each of the

Two shafts swing I’ve got the Nitro low we do have the high and the same weight so if you prefer me using one versus the other let me know oh K there lovely so this is fair to say ne neither is sha balance point particularly suited me they’re a little

Higher balance that I play so I’m going to have to okay adjust myself to the adaptability of your golf swing so Tony has said had a full bag fitting with Simon in December and received my clubs last week thoroughly enjoyable experience throughout and couldn’t recommend the team enough Tony

Love thank you so much for Tony I always I always get slightly concerned yes that’s I had a fitting yes I got the club’s home and I decided to give up the game so the one thing with the TR series is the the TR material there’s extra weave in the butt section which

Definitely stabilizes the feel through the top part it’s quite a tight solid feeling shaft that’s right out the toe but that’s just not gonna that’s just not going to spin that one yeah so face I’m going do one more because that’s a so we’ve got Tom Ashmore evening gents

Instead of evening gets but I I understand it was even gents Tom did you see the new mauno St Max driver any initial sort uh yep we saw we have HIIT it um I think it’s it is a very stable head actually the spin is very spins very solid um very consistent

Um you know actually dispersion wise actually off center pretty good as well um it’s quite a heavy head so that that’s the one thing I think from a versatility point of view might make it a little bit challenging for some fits um the only thing we saw with both of

The isuna heads this year this may just be and we had a brief initial test with them was is there quite as much ball speed as a couple of the other heads there are a few heads this year that seem slightly less ball speed from a smash point of

View than previous models interesting so you know we you know as we see more and more people in the Bay will it’s not just you know Matt hitting one is s different than me and you but I’m not seeing necessarily as much ball speed out of all the heads as last

Year I think off sender performance like you this one out the toe does not knuckle it anywhere near as much as the Paradigm version did and so this is a much safer head from that point of view so definitely improved that aspect on a lot of the heads um

I don’t know if they’re quite as quick now we are talking about a mile an hour or so so it’s minimal yeah be interested to see when it comes in the studio when people are hitting them and and you’re testing it be interesting to get an

Update on those and when do you think they’ll hit the shops M um we should I they’re normally slightly later hope we’ve not talked about something when there’s a bar going have to check um but they’re normally slightly later with the woods I’d have thought I’d have to

Double check that I think likely back end of Feb sure thing so we’ve got Tom Ashmore done that sorry Tartan army boy fantastic great name where they from good yeah who’ have known uh good evening gents great show as us would be interested to use to see a comparison of

The Callaway Max D up against the standard Callaway with the weight setup adjusted uh with the weight set up adjusted if possible okay I assume you me adjusted into to the draw setting on the standard one um so but I’ll do I’ll do this and so Nitro is the the stiffer profile so

You’ve got the red Power Range and the Nitro range the Nitro is the the more recent addition to it definitely a little tighter fir feeling all the way through um not dissimilar balance actually to the uh to the Ventus blue quite similar shafts intend to feel to

Swing um both certainly feel like you can give them a bit of stick that’s just over there somewhere yeah yeah you’re you’re not you’re not hitting the Fairway that much tonight no yeah no it’s well it’s what happens when you’ve had a weak of buff face so it can’t get stomach

Through yeah Robin Morton thank you keep up the good work you’re welcome Robin Mousa 63 question for Stu currently struggling with an aggressive into out path which I’m struggling to neutralize any tips or drills to help with this and to stop the hooks well I’ll very quickly

Just a slightly if anything it’s a slightly tighter feel it impact whereas the Ventus TR is a little bit maybe feels slightly firmer on the handle it’s marginal um for me this launch is a hair lower outside of that spins maybe the spin off the Ventus TR for me a little

Bit lower so marginal variations on launch and SP in um don’t buy one without testing yeah neither it cheap just to give you a drill there m of 63 your club path is simply reacting to your face to path value so if you’re able to work with a trackman or some

Form of radar you will see that the face to path value is the issue so when you have a path that is aggressively from the inside it’s because you’re seeing the ball bend away to the left a great drill to offset that and to confirm

Whether it is your face to path which it absolutely is take the golf club and grip it with the face 45° open then set yourself up so you’re taking your usual grip then set yourself up and make a swing the first swing you make when you approach the ball from the

Inside you’ll see the ball bounce off the side W so go steady then what will happen is the next swing Ste with it 45° open grip the golf club then make a swing and then try to get the ball not to bounce off the side wall by trying to

Swing outside in and to help you just bump the ball forwards a couple of inches then what will happen is that your path will start to come outside in that will confirm that it’s your face to path value that you need to fix the reason why I say that is because most

People will always want to work on the path line before they ever work on the face to the path line so now you know that the face is too closed to your path the it’s then up to you to decide what’s causing that is it your left hand Grier

Address or is it your right hand Grier address that would be my first Port of Call check your grip either make it much much weaker in your right hand or make it much much weaker in your left hand that will change your face to path and

Before you know it your path line will be back to straight but what you will experience is a lesser or less distance because you’re going to add more Dynamic LOF to the golf club it will go a bit higher and have a little bit met spin

But you will then be able to get that back into the golf ball because you’ll now be able to hit more down because as soon as a golfer is inside up to the right they invariably have no attack angle so there’s a few things in there that hopefully will give you the

Direction that you need to go it’s a font of knowledge who knew right AI smoke standard in the draw setting and the uh and the Max D so the one thing that I’ve noticed I think one of the most impressive products this year is actually I think

Is the draw B said in terms of how draw Bast it actually is um so CU this one sits in its neutral position I’m not put a draw bar in the huzzle setting sits really pretty Square you’re just relying on that sliding weight into the into the

Heel now one of these being draw bar the why I’m swinging today I might keep straight yeah so it was it was the the the Callaway that you said that it’s such a strong draw bias yeah golf club right for all those people out there

That have got a little bit of a Virginia yeah Virginia wave definitely so that show I mean considering how far right I’d be missing and actually this head does because of the weight back I find opens up a little bit on me as well yeah so let’s do one more of

That Benjamin Ogden asks where would my his tsr2 rank in the 10K Spectrum as it seems very forgiving yeah Ty actually Sly funny the because I tried to get exact numbers on Moi for TSR three and they don’t actually give them out they haven’t from what I understand they test

In one plane but actually they don’t have the equ of a 10K comparison so it is something they’re working on getting uh tsr2 I I think is again terms of consistency across the paes is very very good um it’s where it’s also good is it’s it’s quite balanced heel the toe so some

Heads are very good out the heel some are better out the toe as as a Miss side of things whereas I think the tsl2 is very good across the face um so for example you C historically on the triple diamond if your misses in the heel a little bit it’s brilliant for keeping

Spin down but the Paradigm if you put it anywhere near the nose the toe end of the head lost all the spin wounded so yeah whereas the Ping’s historically a little weaker at the heel but great if you’re a toist because it retains a bit of flight so um most heads have a

Pointedly better Miss whereas the tsr2 is pretty good across so um the exact number I I don’t have to hand I’m afraid but it’s certainly from a consistency point of view um over the last year or so we’ve seen some great results with it another question in from Alexander

Ward evening jents evening Alexander what are excuse me what are some things to look for when deciding if you’re using the right grip size currently use a midsize but still struggle to get a solid grip worth trying or likely other issue um so I think it one thing to look for

In particular is if it’s I mean if it’s getting too small you’ll like to see wear marks so the thumb wearing heavily and and a kind of a tearing of if you’re playing a leather glove or tearing on the heel heel of the club because that’s

Where if it’s too small I’m going to grip just grip down the uh grip down here Jam is pointing me the right direction it’s too small it can move around so that can rub and wear that part of the handle um and the thumb can create a rub because you’re having to

Clamp down to hold on to it so if you’re finding that the there’s a lot of overlap the tips of your fingers into the pad of your thumb then the grip can be too small um sometimes actually some people just have a very very tight grip

Uh and that also can ironically can lose a little bit of fluidity through the hands a little bit of stability um but generally um it’s it should you should be able to feel kind of mid mid pressure on the grip and not and keep control of

It um it might be something just uh yeah depending on trying to think where A’s base but um you next time you’re in the air just pop in and we can to have a quick look I think a lot of the time as well when you’re feeling like you you

Can’t get purchase on the club a lot of the time if you’re a right-handed golfer your left hand it might be too much across the palm of your hand yeah when it’s in the palm of the hand it it’s just weak you can’t grasp it enough at

The top so I would look at trying to get your left hand a bit more in your fingers of your left hand that’ll always give you a feeling of a bit more security and if the grip’s a bit big then you you have to get it into the pal

Of your hand to get your fingers rounded you want it to be to go back to that camera James is going to hate me this um you want it to be let me know where want it to be sat just underneath the pad of the heel of the hand there and not in

The middle of it is that visible in the palm of the hand is is the devil’s work makes makes it super weak Rika says just joined the live session hope you had a good break not too many Munday Blues still wearing this color sorry Rika wore a very bright yellowed

Lur I think is the phrase so those of you who are not familiar we we run a winter league here that is what’s impressive with this head because that one face to path has gone from open on the other heads to 3° shot on this one

Right yeah yeah nice that is why this is I think one of my I think this is going to be absolute killer for killer this year yeah so we run a winter league one Thursday every month during the winter months uh we play some trapman some golf courses on trapman sponsored by our

Trusted travel Partners at golf escapes and play for holiday and Rika came down and was wearing a very bright yellow shirt yes and and uh was very jealous yes very jealous indeed but but also we are running an event to cavino in May Team Challenge trophy if you want to

Find out more about that where there’s five teams heading over myself is captaining a team Simon is we’ got uh some tour players Lewis caping up teams team challeng trophy.com go over and have a look at the website and you can find all the information and how to

Enter there so do check that out there’s some spaces still going on that who have we got here so we’ve got Mark seon evening Mark hi Ben hi Ben not sure who Ben is but we’re here hi Ben Simon fitted me into Project X iio shars this

Summer and I’ve finally lost my big left Miss whilst coming down 15 grams in sha weight uh it’s a really stable sha for me so good yeah combination of little light of dead weight and balance in the bottom end that helps get the handle leading rather than chasing and flipping

So that all edge of heavier stiffer stops it going left is completely wrong yeah no absolutely uh Steve dton uh how could you help with iron fitting being tall I use 1 and a half inch longer shafts with 3° upright L angle fitting options rarely match my specs I’m

Worried when built will have wrong swing weight feel so um we’ve got a number of heads that we can get lighter to to check the specs on longer length so you ping you know tailor made three of the ones we can we have heads that are slightly lighter weights to cater for

Longer than standard and we’ve also in a in a you in a pretty much every shaft on the rack we go to 38 in we’ got something go 38 and a half um so at the kind of lengths you’re talking about there are very few options that people

Are going to have at that full length however what you can do so if we were looking at if an inch and a half over standard was the right length we can still Speck it around a 7 IR length uh around the 38 and 1 half in um shafts

That we’ve got here here um and that’s easily extrapolated out to to the rest of the set so um it it’s very difficult if you’re that tall um because there there are realistically the amount of options that that we’re going to have on the rack we need them so irregularly um

That you know they are limited um however that’s where our experience over the last 19 years longer if you Mark um comes in to to know the best way to balance up getting the right spec for you yeah very much so golf nerd what do you think of Billy hallw bending all his

Clubs to the same Li angle as his for iron favorite Club at the time what would you what would you ever try uh would you ever try this with anyone no no he’s an absolute Nutter um but I think I think you’ll find that that Billy is doing that because that’s a

Swing mechanics change that he’s working on because he’s trying to lower the hand or bit more forward flexion in his posture I think that’s that’s more of where he’s going with when it comes to that L angle change rather than the golf cart there there’s there’s

No physical way that all the clubs can be the same L angle considering your forarm through pitch W are going to be best part A two inches difference in length it’s just not it’s it’s unless you’re a contortionist um and have different swings for every Club in the

Bag different postures then you’d have to be like Keegan Bradley in the pitch wedge um and then stood in a neutral for the forarm so the reason the lies progress is because the Sha gets shorter and steeper in the unless you’re using a cobra one length set yeah so yeah

Absolutely so we’ve got um horse racing Legends could you hit an Apex Pro 21 or MB with a nipon modus 310 tourus shaft certainly can uh in the meantime um let us know what you want it to show is there a question regarding the performance for that combination do let

Using Legends Mouser thanks Stuart will’ll give that a go my pleasure Mouser Norwegian warhound is in the house Simon uh he has no questions today though that’s a bit disappointing just soaking it all in cheers guys Mike T are you introducing any new products from the show um

There’s most of them most of them we had already seen there are yeah there are a couple of potentially there’s a sort of a grip we may add in um depending on their distribution channels there’s a um there is a new brand of shafts that um that are being launched that might be

Interesting they’ve only got a couple of models at the moment but um that might be interesting um the the new new products are sometimes still in kind of not quite concept form but they’re testing the waters a little bit they’re um they’re using the show to speak to

People and see what kind of Interest levels there might be um so the newest stuff we might see a little bit later in the year potentially so let say now we tend to find that we’ve seen everything that’s able to be added immediately uh and it’s just whether

Something filters in later in the year we’ve got 10 minutes left so do get those questions coming in we will do everything that we can uh to answer them and we’ll cut them off at at the right time but we will anything in we will answer so do keep those coming in

Richard Skinner thanks Simon great show little bit disappointed that Richard hasn’t thanked me as well but he does say something nice at the end of this message where can else can you make requests to see see shars and head combinations in real time an expert golf

Tuition so he he he came back at the end very very well done thank Youk it sounded like you’re saying she sell seashells on Seashore there amazed I got through that yeah you did very super well there reinal combat evening guys recently started following your content and

Really enjoying it keep it up cheers Craig and if you are enjoying this content do give us a like and why not tell one of your friends that we do this every Monday night at 6 p.m. it’d be great to have more of you along and uh

Enjoy the experience Mike cook any info on the Project X vrtx iron shafts so uh they’re um currently well currently they’re only going to be in parallel parallel tip but the they’re nice shots actually there’s a little bit for graphite there’s a little bit of bounc in the tip um decent value option

They’re in a 60 and 80 gr I think thought my they’re definitely an 80 I think think it’s 60 and 80 currently um but um you know a good value for better aftermarket option um you know really nice profile a little bit of responsiveness um but solid

Feeling shaft as well so yeah nice sha brilliant uh Tony are Stuart uh he has the opposite to Mousa three have an excessive out to in path which I’m struggling to neutralize any tips or drills to help me stop slicing the golf ball yes I do let me just quickly do

This so you just want to hit the blade no absolutely not I don’t so I’m going to get myself down on the floor here okay this is your slice’s dream okay to get rid of Imagine doing a press up okay my left hand I’m going to slide

The carb in underneath my left hand and so imagine trying to do a press up on the club shaft now I’m going to lift the club shaft up off the ground and then I’m going to walk into the camera and then what you’re going to do is you’re

Going to grip it with your fingers and at that point now when I walk back out can you see this Kink here in your left hand it’s not like that that could be perceived as a strong left hand but this here where it’s in the pad of the hand

Fingers on this my friend will cure your slice like that and if it doesn’t cure your slice like that what you then want to do is get it in your left hand take the club shaft and lay it to the left and then make some through swings and then what you’ll start to

Learn to do is make this left shoulder sit down more and make this left forearm externally rotate with that good grip and that will every day of the week cure your slice promise you and if it doesn’t email me it’s escart right Golf atgmailcom and I’ll give you the reason

Why that’s that’s and you know what also if you do that on every Te You Learn up proper Hench as certainly so that’s how you put your grip on the golf club in the right manner I was intrigued to see where you were going with that one when

You got down all fours I thought all right this is a new this is a new one on me so just grip the golf club and lift the club head up what we all need to understand is that the golf club head weight this is heavy this is light is

Trying to do that through a golf shot so now just push down so what your grip should be able to do the pad of that hand should be able to offset that pressure whereas if it’s running through the palm of the hand it can’t do that

But not only that it then makes the face wide open so if you don’t put your left hand on the golf club in the right manner you are immediately behind the eightball and I and I’ve actually videoed this today I had a client come

In he was 9° outside in and he was 8 de open with his Club face I changed his left hand and he went from face open 8° to back to zero and his path went from nine outside in to three in one shot it’s going to be a video coming out

Whose hand did you give him cuz if we can sell that that’ be amazing but but it just goes the power and and yeah we we’ve been we’ve been so poorly educated on how to put the hands on the club right first and I think it’s it’s

Where it all goes wrong from there I think uh Mr horse racing gave yes he did yes I’ve changed uh he said so Mr hor racing is there so he said yes I’ve changed on advice from St Pro with 105 regular rifle shafts swing speed on a 79

Is 90 mph okay yeah so there a lot of speed um um so certainly going from 105 to the 120 so these are actually they weigh 115 they say 120 but they so you’ve got 10 Gams more in the shaft and definitely a little bit more structure

In the bottom of the shaft so you can use that weight if you’re this is where if you’ve got the right weight you can use the weight to develop speed and keep control um the nions are not that stiff in the handle end but very stable at the

Bottom so what this shaft’s going to do is over your 105s is going to give you um more weight to use but give you a bit of feedback the weight in the bottom end is going to help create a little bit more of a want a better phaser lag it’s

Going to drop the club in to give you a bit more to hit against but it’s going to feel fairly responsive and uh and on a blade if you hit the middle of the club face it’ll go like that um so blade will spin it’ll be weaker Loft and will

Spin more than your St Pros because the the the center gravity of the head retains a bit more Spin and you will notice every little M hit on these but when they’re good they’ll feel lovely will well done nicely demonstrated will M I need a drive ahead for a draw hitter

Sits neutral addressed maintains load spin so now there are two interpretations of this for a draw do you want to avoid a draw or do you want to create a draw uh need that’s the only question I need a driver ahead for a draw hit so he hits a draw needs to sit

Neutral at aess and maintain some spin um so he’s a draw hitter so he’s looking for more spin that’s how I’m tou so I mean actually things like you know I quite like for those tsr3 isn’t that low spin um tsr2 isn’t a draw bar head and

You can flatten the flatten the line slightly um similarly I mean LS LST is stronger flight will keep the spin in check but isn’t a knuckle isn’t the left bar said those are probably the tightest and the Ping if you’re looking for a to retain a bit more flight but a safe spin

Rate those are probably the best two heads very good Liam Han have you guys tried the brnr mini driver if so what do you think of it uh what do you think of it as a second T Club um so the the the burnam Min the Taylor May driver um it’s

It’s a good head I I think the question mark is with that head it’s it’s never going to be quite as long or shouldn’t be quite as long as you’re as a full stand work driver um I’d be looking at as a club for someone who’s really not comfortable with a

Driver wants to play a shorter sha more like a more like a fairway would but get a bit of the bigger face that a a driver head kind of an undersized driver head’s going to give you um because it might get a bit too close to driver so that’s

Where if you can hit a fairway wood I know some of the tour guys use it but you you might lose a bit of the gapping and the use off the Fairway with that head so um I’m I’m not so sure about it being a second driver um I would see it

More as something which is a great Club if you’re someone who traps it a bit and isn’t a great driver drivable yeah Benjamin Ogden in a fitting do you ever find a stock shaft to be the best option for someone as opposed to an aftermarket one absolutely um absolutely I mean

Particularly with irons because a lot of the um you know something like the nip on the motors is a stock Shar for a lot of the brands um and their Steels can be a little bit there’s a bit more of a margin to make them work well or not

Graphites and when you’re getting to driver a little bit more specific in terms of the Swing Styles they suit um but you’ve got things like like the the Hazardous black gen Falls they’re a good shaft the Kylie Mitsubishi the whites they’re a stock shaft for some or have

Been um so yeah where we can and where we can would would if it ultimately the best shaft is the one that works best whether it’s a 400 pound upgrade or a stock shaft however um it has to be built correctly so again whether a top

Grade sha after micros Shaft or a stock shaft what you test has to be built the same way for it to work um and that’s where most players find in in M start that one again most players find a drop in performance versus a test Club they’ve hit it’s because the one that

They receive the Tolerance on balance or loft or something it just won’t swing the same and then ball goes all over the place so you’ve got to get the build right to back up any fitting um in any product yeah no I think that that can’t be underestimated I mean when you think

About the volume that a manufacturer will produce a car at a car a golf club hat compared to when you’re building you know exclusively you two guys in there that are doing it to detail with a fitter that they might come out and ask them a question on on a

Bit the tolerances are have notably improved from the brands but there are still you know they’re kind of they’re aimed for swing weights they’re aimed for um you specs and where they can get as close as possible that’s what they’ll do um so they have got a lot better

However you know every shaft has a tolerance every head’s got a tolerance every grip’s got a tolerance so the more you can do to take those any of those implications away the better yeah for sure more Spin and fill in the t4s or the sm10 oh well haven’t haven’t got the

Sm10 into to do a direct comparison side to side by side so um I think it’s it’s a slightly subjective one and I haven’t had the sm10 with data to look at the spin um because literally last week was the first time what what did impress me

With the sm10 was the lower launch and the stopping power actually I hit a couple of shots which I’m not a good enough wedge player to generally hit and the ball came out low with some Spin and I believe James got got the videoing of it as well proof but the

T4s are technically you know a they’re a forg T whereas the sm10 are a softc casting so they may feel a bit softer for some players and we saw great spin out of those so I think spin wise it’s going to be very very comparable would

Dra the Line in the Sand kyl amic’s question um so can we see a driver off the deck we’ll both have a go at this yeah I I’m seeing as it’s you’re mine yeah yeah yeah oh that’s Charming you leverage any advantage you can that’s Charming that’s

Charming let’s let’s let’s you got the draw Beast yeah I can I can put something together for you no that’s right that’s that looks like it’s got off a decent out of Loft on it man I don’t mind that dry all right okay thanks for this golf appreciate that yeah

Yeah really good thin one into the bottom of the uh right so I’d be expecting a slight fade off of this oh he’s done well he’s done well that done it right there oh my god well you have it about 3,000 BS yeah that a

Good point I’m on a full yeah my first one the bag is drive off the deck my back is not feeling the best either there’s a very good disclaimer comment there yeah I’ve just got enough in there right come on to get it airor too bad impressive

That’s not too bad bit down the right wing yeah we won’t going any more into that they both got airb I for me that’s quite impressive Mark SE and my swing weights go from d2.3 Iron to D4 in wedges is is it often said that swing weights should be constant throughout

The set please explain no um it shouldn’t they shouldn’t be constant through the set um because swing weights a static balance and not it doesn’t take into account how the club’s actually swinging in the component so it’s a within a set of irons it’s it’s a good

Reference point for how they all sort of Swing relative to one another however as the club gets shorter and the swing speed drops you need a bit more mass in the club to match the momentum so um the short you go you need more weight to

Pull the club down into impact a little bit as well so um if your 4arm and your nine on have the same static balance the N9 is going to swing light because there’s less momentum achieved through acceleration so it’s got to be pitched slightly to make them feel the same to

Swing Rika asks uh if the PJ show covers gadgets Tech like hack motion or Aros did anything jump out that jump out at you that us amateurs may also use um for us because we’re looking at the fitting side of things there is so much there

That we can’t cover all of it um so inevitably there will be other other gadgets and gizmos like the hack motion it’s like this these apps that are coming out that are going to give all that kind of info but just display it in different ways um you there there are

Two or three that I saw that had the the ability to pick out a you know from a you an iPhone footage a body part and the limbs and put a almost a sceletal structure together and you could see that swing I think that that I said that’s where most of the advancements

Are I might have missed some of the questions on that but um yeah we we from fitting side things aren’t looking at those bits as a sort of focus but we do find out about them Alf world I got my old titless MBS with the s300 SHA still

Got a very high ball spinny ball flight even on drawers what sha titless head could help me uh with that uh so I’m just going to the very start of that make sure I’ve get the right he’s got MB MBS with s 300s he High spinny ball flight even on drawers

What what head and shaft might he want to look at um so look more ahead I mean the s300 if they’re too heavy is going to get behind you and flip and add a bit of flight so um it’s not so much a low spin shaft it’s going to be getting the

Right weight and balance to get timing and put you in control of impact a little bit more but certainly um you know M’s are going to spin more than pretty much any other iron head so um i c have titless range you t-150 would certainly bring Loft down a bit but the

The spin’s going to come down a bit as well but shaft wise it’s it’s impossible one to know for certain yeah Jay Lee new TD AI smoke and LS qi1 just as forgiving as the lstp not quite no Paradigm triple dime is definitely better off the toe um the

And to any of the low spin heads you got to be a good ball Striker for and I think that’s one of the things things they are they are less unforgiving than they used to be they are not as forgiving as the other heads so um they’re better off center than they used

To be I would still say the Ping slightly trumps them for forgiveness however the Callaway has been quite impressive so far the you know with James and I missing a bit of a week to do some data with the heads as they’ve come in um I’ve not seen many in the

Fitting Bay yet but for my own hitting um I think it’s tough call between the C and the tayor for forgiveness ping still slightly better yeah Kyle amck asks uh at what point should you stay away from game improvement irons if Spin and everything is good with a game

Improvement iron should you really change out of them for Less forgiveness well Colin montgom didn’t no no he got to world number two with them so um I think it’s only really if you know with the Lofts they’re at you can get some big gaps at the bottom and managing that

Can become tough so they can artificially give you a little bit more yardage because of the strong Loft and the fast faces and things you can find that flight control in the short runs because the center of gravity is back they can want to flare up so it’s the

Control aspect in terms of picture flight and consistency of trajectory which you if you’re starting to feel like everything’s popping up on the shorter IRS or or actually kind of just controlling distance a more solid feel you’re wanting out of heads then then you could move to a more mid-range s of

Forgiving players on iron rather than say a game improvement yeah brilliant well that rounds up all of the questions and and as ever you’ve done us yeah absolutely proud on on being involved often engaging with us on these Monday night lives they really are a lot of fun

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