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Live on a Tuesday edition merly Boo the great Z how you living buddy doing well obviously you know we talked about it already at nause at this point we don’t live in the best weather area in the world oh man today’s a little tough little ice out there little Ice Ice Baby
I heard west side it was like oh my gosh the way I was looking at you the glare from outside on Uno looked as if he had like a nose bandage because there was a piece of white snow it was almost like he like got hit in the nose you looked
At me Gravely concerned I was I was scared for myself I didn’t know what happened you remember when JJ Watt would have like the broken nose oh yeah that’s what I looked like I looked at Uno and I just saw the white and I thought my god
Did he break his nose and I didn’t even notice bad job it of me um no this is it this is it this is the worst give me last week 18 son fine fine agree take it I’m not crazy about it yeah but I’ll take this and Westside had ice and
Brutal like schools were closed I think a lot of places on the west side we didn’t have that we were full we good we were good we were rocking and rolling rocking and rolling how are you doing yeah I did get um new pen I did get a new pen
Um I did get hot last night I had one of the it’s very rare that you can uh site and be inspired in Parenting by Ashley schaer from Eastbound and Down that’s rare that that happens okay that there that there are lessons to be learned there so two Littles go to
Bed NBC can hang out a little bit he’s 12 now and so we’re bouncing around you know I still like to flip I still like my flipping and I can’t even remember what I was watching on one of them it could have been the Cavs game it could
Have been some basketball I went to break and I always looked to the movie channels for something to entertain me for a couple of minutes while we’re at break yeah so I hit real short attention span yeah I don’t like two and a half minutes I don’t like two and a half
Minutes like gets right into something else I can’t so I popped over I pop into HBO skyfalls on love Skyfall Great Bond movie um I prefer Casino Royale but it’s my second favorite probably so right after MI6 gets blown up so we’re all sitting there the blonde NBC and myself
And we’re watching and right after MI6 gets blown up they it cuts immediately to bond passionately making out with and neither he nor the the making out e are wearing shirts on the top okay now you don’t see anything because it’s Bond yep right I mean it’s Bond it’s PG-13 so
You’re not seeing anything but it’s plenty leading you to believe what’s happening there so my wife is change it what are you doing change it you got you can’t watch this and I thought of Ashley schaer I said let him watch let him watch let him watch what is consecrated
Here that’s right she’s like it’s not appropriate I’m like he’s 12 12 I promise you’s seen it he needs to see this what’s gonna happen this is where he’s at he’s safe he’s gonna be fine yes’s safe exactly gonna be fine yeah that’s where you’re at don’t worry about
It I like it yeah so that it’s rare that you can use an Eastbound and Down most certainly thought you maybe running through the field while cannons were launched out something like that that that has not happened no good now how far are you on uh on the uh the
Gemstones how far did you finish that up I’m into season three is that the final one this is it is the only one remaining I don’t know if they’re coming with a fourth I mean the first episode is pretty amazing yeah I haven’t watched the first episode of season three yet so
You’re not there yet so I finished this season 3 is my favorite of the three I finished season two yeah where uh what’s his name Uncle baby Billy no not Uncle baby Billy the guy that they were gonna do the resort with turned out to maybe
Maybe not be a greaty z Zion’s Landing yeah it’s that guy so they all they they cover the yeah cover yeah they and took him out took him out gota do it yeah so then I guess maybe and then the next one say maybe I did watch the beginning of
It but we were flying back and like starts in the 70s I want to say or something like that it might I mean the first the first scene is one of the first scenes you see is oh they’re on a race car they’re on a race car yeah and
Uncle baby Billy’s got a he’s got what amounts to like a Vegas PL because they built their own right yeah yeah he’s got and he’s singing his song and he’s not please because things are good enough for just I just started like I finished I wanted to see what they came and I
Remember the the racetrack part of it yeah so there you go that’s it I tried to watch the night country thing it’s too dark I I gotta say that summer the True Detective on HBO oh the new one yeah I haven’t watched that yet I can’t
Do it’s too it’s set in I watched like the first five minutes it’s set in Alaska in at like after the solstice so there’s no sun I get enough of that here yeah not interested I can’t do that can’t happen yeah um all right your hot tops today presented by Vivid Seats
Official fan experienced partner your Cleveland Browns uh multiple reports on this one uh the Browns are hiring former Notre Dame quarterback coach and notman quarterback offensive coordinator and Alabama offensive coordinator most recently Tommy ree to be the tight ends coaches J Zack Jackson among others uh
Reese will have a hand in the overall development of the passing Game and his exact title is still uncertain uh these are all reports of course of course at this point um this is my this is my interaction or tangential connection to Tommy Reese’s which is probably the best way you could
Put it so uh laurenitis was on the staff at Notre Dame last year Marcus’s first year when Tommy stayed and was the uh was the offensive coordinator at Notre Dame and I’ve had many conversations with him about that program and how it was all going and when Tommy left to
Become the offensive coordinator at Alabama uh I remember James specifically saying he’s brilliant like as a game planner he’s brilliant as a play caller he’s brilliant like one of the he didn’t get enough credit for his for how good he was yep I think in part because he
Played quarterback at Notre Dame and it was like well you play quarterback for there you’re under Brian Kelly come on in but he’s like I’m telling you like he’s legit as a play caller in that so again nothing official that’s the best I can do he’s only like 31 right young kid
Yeah I mean he do that long ago he played at Notre Dame so young kid but was trusted um with the offense at Notre Dame and then last year was trusted with the offense by Nick Sabin so he he was a real upand Comer in the college football
World and even when the Alabama Job fir when Sabin when it first came that Sabin was going to step down from Alabama there was some talk it was not much but there was like well would they even consider keeping Tommy as like the head coach they didn’t they went got cayin
Deor which is the right call I think but um that that there was even some of that so the idea that you if if this is indeed the way that this shakes out that you could get him to come and Coach tight ends in the NFL would be a big hit
But it’s a bright offensive mind yeah and then we’re talking to gerod Johnson from the Houston Texans who’s a reportedly again and that is reportedly uh another Bright Young mind so I think clearly if you look at these reported moves because we have not even confirmed the departures but correct
Nonetheless you would say the departures are confirming the departures yes stumps stump he’s on a tour so has AVP yeah um that the focus is going to be on kind of getting this passing game as a a full compliment to what Kevin’s so good at in
Terms of his wide Zone Boots the play action hard play action game and then having more of I think of a shotgun yeah based offense and then you can have everything so I think this is a lot of trying to get guys in here who excel at Concepts and can help Kevin with
Concepts that maybe are better suited to what say deshun Watson is traditionally used to doing as opposed to what he’s doing here not to say that it wasn’t start clicking because it did start clicking so it just I think gives you every tool in the offensive toolbx which
Is what you want yeah yeah it is it is what you want now um another one um this one reportedly the Titans are reportedly hiring Bengals offens coordinator Brian Callahan as their new head coach um and of course Brian is Bill’s son and we know Bill quite well and are quite fond
Of him um what does it mean for his future here we don’t I have you ever asked Bill about Brian I’m trying to think if we have we haven’t had we used to have Bill in here quite a bit and then I haven’t seen we haven’t had
Him in here in a while to the point where like Brian’s career is taken off it’s not something that he so we don’t come up it doesn’t come up has it ever with you I well we talked to him I think and he didn’t really want to talk about
When his because his son’s been the OC of the Bengals so we played them a couple times a year I don’t think there was something that he really got into that much I know he’s proud of him sure years ago like Bill would come in here
With us like in the offseason we’d talk with him yeah you know and we haven’t done that in a while but his um so we you have no idea the idea to work for your son in the NFL would feel like a bucket list my God is this really
Possibly happening situation and I would think that if Brian would want his dad is one of the three best offensive line coaches in the history of the game he’d get him like that feels like that’s the that’s how that will go this is me this isn’t reports it’s nothing it’s just common
Sense right I mean I feel like it sounds like you know a dream come true situation right so maybe he likes it so muchier that he would not but it would it would seem yeah like if your son says Hey Dad I want you to come will you help me Dad
Yeah we help yes I will give me a hand dad can you give me a hand yeah give a first time head coach can you help me I’d like your help yes son and he had so much credibility immediately what’s going on there and then you wonder you
Know does what does that mean for Scott Peters what does that mean yeah you know for a lot of things yeah there’s a billion balls in the air of the moment all of a sudden we’ve had would OA be the only one still here reportedly if Callahan were to leave yeah reported
Offensive side yeah so reportedly reportedly Callahan is not not yet no no no that’s conjecture the other three are reportedly yes that’s connecting dots on Callahan and and then OA would be the only one reportedly well no that it wouldn’t be that would just be stand right from returning from the offensive
Staff yeah for now would you rather work for Pedro as an associate dean of his school or have him work for you as like Uno him as Uno not even a question is there a question for you well I don’t know like I feel like
If I had like explain to my dad like oh my God I can’t imagine being around him that much but I can’t imagine like trying to explain like if you would go work for your dad no no I could have I didn’t no no no thanks no thanks zero chance um
But that I do think like it would not be a whole lot of fun having him in the mix either well I don’t know about that but I’m saying it also I would rather have him mix rather than me you under his yoke then you’re back under the Yoke right what would be
The biggest roadblock if he were Uno if Pedro were Uno the first disagreement would happen because of what I don’t know I honestly I don’t feel like it would be all that dissimilar from GI like he tries to stifle my joy he IR BL me for things it’s like like how much
Different could it be other than that they would probably become some type of a formidable alliance against me but I mean I’m already dealing with like you got yolks all around you I’m dealing with Pedro light already you’re right you are completely prepared yeah yeah yeah irrational things left and right
Blame for things that have nothing to do with you making your life harder when it doesn’t need to be yeah we’re already dealing with that the ability to also get caught in in situations Cliff claven yeah right like GI and the all those things Lov it all those
Things are real honestly would not I don’t know how much different it would be yeah that’s it otherwise it would largely be the same yeah that’s what I think we had a uh major media rights deal this morning announced WWE and raw um the raw brand part of that you know
That this better World better than me so you can explain Bas a new deal with Netflix starting in 2025 um it will give uh Netflix the rights to raw in the United States and in other uh WWE entities around the globe um it is it’s a big deal it is Netflix’s first foray
Into live sports yeah and so you wonder the rock it was you know ringing the bell at the the stock exchange so exclusive rights in US Canada UK Latin America it’ll also be the home for all WWE shows and specials outside of the us including Smackdown NXT as well as WrestleMania
SummerSlam and the royal Rumble so the three big pay-per-views and then the other TV show so I’m guessing Fox keeps Smackdown in the US seems like it um and then my question is what happens to Peacock because right now peacock is the app that you need to
Watch all of their their whole Library all the Live Events so my guess is peacock would say there raw instead of being on you know a Universal Property goes to or an NBC Universal Property would go to Netflix but then do they also get the catalog how long was
The agreement they said on the catalog know yeah that’s that those are the details that are not in our notes here but also that we need to find out but it feels like it’s a big deal WWE Library the other part of this is I mean we’re heading like a rocket
Ship towards streaming for all of this stuff it’s it’s coming quickly we have we’ve now been through two seasons of Amazon Prime Thursday Night Football we had a peacock playoff game this year now this is raw which you and I are old enough to remember raw propping up USA
Like that propped up that was the the FL the Bell cow of USA the network totally right like that they launched their big show any show they would try to launch they’d launch it after raw like that was the whole operation so this is Netflix getting into the live sports world and
It certainly would be a harbinger of things to come in terms of live sports in general the all of that it’s coming you’re seeing as you mentioned obviously with the NFL so it says that this marched a major programming shift raw leaves linear television for the first
Time since its Inception 31 years ago so that raw will be on Netflix US Canada UK Latin America additional countries to be added over time as part of the agreement Netflix will also become the home for all WWE shows and specials outside of the US inclusive of raw and WWE’s other
Weekly show SmackDown NXT as well as company’s premium Live Events including WrestleMania summerl Ro rum WWE’s award-winning documentaries original series and forthcoming projects will also be available on Netflix internationally beginning in 20125 so that sounds to me like it’s all that stuff stays on peacock you’re gonna pull from a domestically if you’re
International if your domestic raw is g to be on Netflix starting in 2025 everything else is going to be on peock or over the air Fox whatever and that internationally everything’s going to be on Netflix yeah the the reality of this is is when we first started getting whether it was
Netflix or am Amazon Prime is different because you’re paying for that was like a throwin shord signing up for Prime uh but Amazon Prime Netflix all of these things Disney plus ESPN plus all of them all of them that are in the live sports game um you pay for it’s a double dip
Right because you pay for the app and now they’re going to still show commercials yep like wait a second the whole point of this like you and I grew up in an era where like all right I’ll pay the premium for HBO and then the part of that premium is I’m watching
Commercial free yep yep and so now all of these are going to have the subscriber fee plus the advertising fee we already see this in Amazon Prime we saw it in the peacock game where they had regular advertising like like you would for a normal NFL game and the
Problem is for the consumer is you can’t do what I did last night on Skyfall you can’t pop out into something else you’re stuck in it yeah and that’s the reality I’m more okay with that than you are but yes you’re right how about this it’s A5
Billion deal 500 million a year per 10 years they have an opt out after five years as Netflix and new extend for initial 10 years sources say WWE’s current five-year deal with us rights for raw with NBC Universal was worth about 250 a year so they doubled that
Well they’d have to because they’re going to take it’s a risk from their standpoint of viability like is your audience going to follow you there yep so they you had to that’s why the NFL redid their their television deal and even the college football ones that they pay so close attention
To I was surprised that they didn’t let the streamers take a bite at the Apple a bigger bite yeah the NFL did with prime but I was surprised they didn’t get into business and have a conversation with Apple TV that they didn’t have a busit with YouTube they didn’t have a
Conversation with Facebook like the big big entities that have all the money in the world because it’s and you would have doubled the NFL though is Old Guard like these are these are mostly people have been around a long time and they still understand and appreciate Network
And the ratings are still bigger on network 50 million people watched the Chiefs and the bills on Sunday the number is the biggest most watched divisional game ever ever ever wow so there’s still value in that so in order for you to go from 250 to go off of a
Place where most of your audience can get you wherever you want it to one that you’re gonna have to pay for there’s got to be a premium on that and there was in this case it was double so peacock paid 110 million to theend to air the one
Playoff game and it was the most watched streamed live event in American history of course so well up until that point most watched live stream event was college football or college basketball yep so until that happened that’s what it was so now you get the NFL in the mix
And there you go uh but this is where you’re headed you’re headed to all of this stuff is going to be in a streamer and and that’s the world you’re going to live in the crazy thing is is they’re basically just reverse engineering cable right right you know because eventually
Whether it’s Amazon or apple or whoever you’re going to go into one app and it’s going to tell you all the things that are available on all of the all of the apps well that’s where you’re at you’re YouTube TV already does that to a certain extent and like one of my smart
TVs already kind of organizes it yeah it organizes search and it’ll tell you where you can get it where you can get it so all that’s already happening they’re basically just reverse engineering cable that’s what what’s out I like it I like the app I like the fact
That on Saturday night mhm AR Andrea was over at uh easy ease and I had to go pick her up at like I don’t know 10:30 well that was right in do you call him easy to his face yeah God bless you Peyton was NBC was dating a girl his
Name game with an e and I tried calling her easy was not having it oh yeah Easy Come on EXC it back go you know who easy is I said yeah I’m aware of who EAS is yeah yeah it’s a good name anyway good
Name so so I got to I had to go down there then Saturday night was that was Prime fourth quarter of the 49ers Packers yeah in the old days once you left your TV you’re out of luck in the new days I had it right there watched it plug through the
Bluetooth I yeah with the phone allows for it I was able to bring the game with you because of the end because of the apps YouTube TV let’s go yeah unbelievable we do that a lot on the way to like they’ll they’ll stream like a Kansas Kentucky game on the way to
Basketball yeah in the car on the way back live sports it’s pretty good it’s great yeah that part’s pretty good not s about yeah so that’s where you’re head there you go kids those are your hot topics today presented by Vivid Seats official Fan Experience part New Year
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Drink smart time for one thought on the divisional round Uno you ready for this I think we have time to do a couple Thoughts by the way honestly 50 minutes of we used to do one thought on 16 games I think we could do multiple well we don’t follow the rules anyway
So especially now when GI whatever you want yeah I’m ready to go go for it all right we start in Baltimore the Ravens took down the Houston Texans 34-1 in the first game of the weekend start with you Bo yeah this was the easiest one for me to project this felt
Pretty simple it was pretty simple um I understood why everyone would it just was too easy was the lock of the it’s why it was the lock of the week it was the it was the lead pipe lock of the week that that the Houston Texans riding
High off of our Victory the victory they had against us um and everyone was going to fall in love with cjin and the reality is that Baltimore you remember all that St oh Baltimore’s missed three games CJ’s really hot and it’s like okay it’s fine right um and Baltimore was
Fine now it’s 10 10 at half um now they get a punt return or they get a kick return they got a return touchdown a punt return touchdown for Houston so that that helps with a 1010 um and then Baltimore turned it on and by all reports um Lamar gave an impassioned
Speech and and that fired him up and then they annihilated in the second half this was the least surprising result it was the least surprising score it was exactly how I thought it would go all right first of all sweet Miss K we’re having like a little bit of work done on
The home right now all right yeah by my the great handyman JTV he’s in the mix yeah back in the mix yeah uh and like in our laundry room which we’re kind of not redoing but we’re just making it nicer and put little benches and hes whatever
There’s a light over it that’s like one of those old school long rectangle floresent floresent yep she calls it a ghost light she hates it okay detests it all right so she just texed me which is why I grab it she was just like they can
Go out and get this do you like this light and I’m like whatever makes I don’t care I don’t care I I don’t know how I can explain this at all like and then sometimes say well why don’t you care it’s not whatever makes you happy that’s you’re happy I’m happy I it
Doesn’t matter to me I don’t ever think about lights sure love anything that makes you happy I don’t care at all same and it’s not that I’m it’s I’m not indifferent to to something that’s important to you it’s whatever makes you happy makes me happy that’s right
Same it is interesting though like if there were scenarios that were the opposite where she’s like I don’t care just do whatever it makes you happy I would never push be like push back Boulevard of green lights baby I never push back like oh what do you mean you
Don’t care what do you mean you don’t care great great I’ll take that pass and I’ll run with it I don’t know all right all right but where were we yes Baltimore baltim Baltimore I don’t think you can overstate especially in the playoffs two things one how important home field
Advantages yeah it is massive I’m not saying the Texans win if this game was played in Houston but it’s a different game well I’ll tell you this they don’t beat us the way they did if it was here they lose to us yeah so pretty definitively I’d say and they beat us
Pretty definitively ultimately so that’s number one number two I think that what I just said holds even more weight when you’re talking about a dome team traveling to the outside in weather or cold weather I don’t think for Detroit going to San Francisco per se yeah that
Weather shouldn’t be a factor in that game I don’t think that bothers them as much but this from a Houston to this what you had the weather on the east coast and in in Baltimore it made a big big difference and this was a team that could
Not they didn’t have a going third third thing I felt like watching it Baltimore’s entire game plan as a defense was to make life very difficult for Nico Collins and I thought that had a very positive ripple effect on the rest of their ability to play defense in this
Game that one weapon we didn’t do that we did not do that and I think if we had one doover I think that would have to be near the top of the list of the do over at least on the defensive side of the football and we would have thought going
Into that game that we that was going we talked about way we handled Garrett Wilson like pick went over the top all the time guy underneath like that bracketed all of those things it just didn’t play out that way no they didn’t give up the big play what’s interesting
Is the Ravens did not sack CJ Stout either we didn’t sack him they didn’t sack him they hit him a few times they limited his Effectiveness but they did not sack him the other thing is Lamar Jackson is is playing like a complete MVP I mean he’s doing it all 16 to 22
152 two touchdowns 100 yards rushing two touchdowns he looks great their defense is good it is amazing watching our boy Jevan Clowny when he’s engaged and feels appreciated and is happy he can play as well as anybody yep not like upper Aon passers but I mean he
Can be a disruptive Force stud on a very good defense and we saw that two you know two years ago with us and then now this year you’re seeing it with him and bore they ran it with Lamar the first play and I think they set the tone
They’re like Buckle in boys this is what you’re getting well didn’t the Texans take the ball and go three and out immediately and then the Ravens came back did that very first play was a run and you and it was like okay this is what you signed up for welcome to
Baltimore ladies and gentlemen I mean they ran for 229 yards yeah only D and that was we you and I talked about that in the leadup like we just we could not run it on him no we don’t Nick chub we didn’t have we don’t have you know Joe
For all the things we love about him he wasn’t someone who’s gonna go run it for 70 yards no he put the threat of there’s no threat an 11 man rushing attack all right go to San Francisco and the NFC the 49ers take down the Young and up and cominging Green Bay Packers
24-21 Z Brock py was not good in this game and yet he finished with a flourish that he needed to some big time throws finishes with 22 2339 252 a touchdown rating of 86.7 KD made the big plays not a lot of Brandon iuk but the guy that stepped up
And I think you go back and you’re going to ultimately say deserves you know a major bit of credit Jawan Jenkins Jennings I’m sorry jwan Jennings who filled in for Debo he made that huge catch over the middle up in between three guys on the last drive he had a
Big big game they’re going to need Debo back they’re gonna need to get auk involved more 5050 5050 they’re going to need to get though they need more of auk I think against the Detroit Lions to me this is it’s this it’s the tale of two quarterbacks for the majority of this
Game love was great he was great Sensational you watch him you go God all of this makes sense like I they’re going to go from Favre to Rogers to this dude and and the as far as Leaf Flur took him this year and love quite frankly took himself it’s it’s unbelievable there
Were times earlier this season we looked incompetent and it was like I don’t know if is this the biggest mistake in the history of sports that they pushed Rogers out but then everybody got on the same page and they got right conversely most of the game from the pry pry
Perspective was blasphemy that that Pedro’s calling him on yeah like this guy all he can do is check down he missing guys left and right by wide margins it was like at one point he take that crazy one he took the snap and dried his hands and he put his
Hand back on that was crazy I’ve never seen anybody do that no so and yet it all flipped on the last drive for each prie was Sensational in the last drive and love makes honestly and I think you’re right in bringing this up when we talked about it yesterday it’s the type
Of play that can haunt you yeah yes and it’s the type of play that can make you question your ability to play the position because it’s it’s just stying to just throw the ball into the middle of the field as you’re going down they
Only had to go 25 yards to be in field goal range yep that’s it and he just threw it to the middle of the field it was crazy and that’ll hang over you man like that is a total brain fart of a play completely that you just can’t
Three guys could have picked it it was could have Fair caught it I mean it was so and then I did think maybe had some money on the game because it felt like he was trying to go score somebody was trying to do that for the cover yeah who
Had the cover City little nine and a half yeah and he was trying to he was trying to get it there because he was not going down and everyone’s screaming at him get down get down get down n I’m gonna keep running get down and then
Basically like it was at one point like is somebody on his own team gonna tackle him by the way is anybody falling off the face of the Earth more than Christian Watson well remember though last year the start of the Season he was nothing and then he came on the second half yeah
I don’t know it’s hard you draft a guy out of North Dakota North Dakota State you just don’t know how that transition is going to go man he looked like he had a chance to be right but you you have pretty solid he was good at the end of last year but
Like you just that’s just a tough circumstance there’s not a lot of track record for that second round pick his rookie year 66611 and seven touchdowns this year 53 422 five touchdowns still average 15 yards a catch do you want a fun fact about Christian Watson yeah yes
Never had a thousand yard season in high school college or the pros ever the high school part of that stunning the college part isn’t because they run option um so the the he the college part of that makes some sense it’s kind of like kind of like a Calvin Johnson situation the
Most he’s ever had I believe is 82 yard wow yeah it’s weird you didn’t have it in high school if you played receiver in high school you didn’t have a thousand yard season um for sure yeah good job out of you buddy good job uh but yeah
That’s what you saying two two Tail of Two quarterbacks for me all right we go to the Motor City the Lions beat the Buccaneers 31-23 we had timeout controversies we had big throws from the quarterbacks Bishop well at least Dan Campbell admitted that he blew
It like he did say that postgame like on the clock that’s on me like we should have snapped it with one second I mean it’s just I don’t know if they that the game was over in the moment they thought it was over but it was the whole thing
Was ridiculous that it played out the way that it played out um I had it was surreal watching it because for such a wo beone franchise and such a dismal franchise the Detroit Lions have been omnipresent in our life because of the Thanksgiving thing yep and so we’ve seen they’ve ruined so many
Thanksgivings with their incompetence and the fact that that operation got it right with some people we know like John dorsy and I know Chris Felman really well that they that these guys got this thing right that they got not one but two home playoff wins wins wins they got
To like celebrate it and the moment of Aiden Hutchinson like looking around the stadium so he’s born in De he grew up in Dearborn goes to the University of Michigan goes to Detroit and like it’s all he knows is lions in Detroit it’s his he’s it’s his homeland like can you
Imagine and he’s the one who he’s the one and he was a stud and like can you imagine like if there was a defensive end from Cleveland who went to Ohio State and was a stud there and then came here and was the best player on a
Defense that was pretty good and got to be on the field for two AFC Championship two AFC playoff games like what that would be like and I couldn’t help but think like it’s kindy like LeBron yeah minus the Ohio State connection part of and all that yeah but
Yeah that um but it was just I kept watching just I’m so happy for the city I don’t have any connection to Detroit at all like nothing I’ve been there once in my life um families oh there you there Michigan people yeah so there you
Go so well now I have some connection to them um but they’re just easy to root for and I couldn’t help but thinking like what it will be like here when that happens here like to host two straight playoff games and win them I mean that’s
Crazy I mean Andrew Barry let off his press conference talking about it yeah being like that was such a special thing they’re good gof is good he’s a good quarterback and I I’m happy for him I liked him I thought he was so clearly the number one pick and I wanted the
Browns to get him so bad that year out of I don’t know how it would have worked out here per se but he has certainly proven himself to be worthy he’s taken one team to a Super Bowl he’s gonna take now a second team to an NFC Championship at the very least
Yeah um Gibbs and Montgomery are a great combo I’m on ra St Browns the stud Jameson Williams he’s the one guy that you just never have gotten what you thought imagine if he was what they thought oh man and then leaport as a beast yeah they’re they’re good they’re
A fun team their defense is fun I do wonder and look at it you know the guy kid they drafted in the first round the linebacker he doesn’t really play that much kid from Iowa Jack Campbell because they’re playing ANS alone that’s the one maybe you wonder if
They could have gotten something else there but listen they didn’t a good job good team fun to watch and on the Tampa side of it Mike Evans is Mike Evans is one of the best receivers to ever play the game is he gonna be like in the top 10 as an
Individual maybe not but when you think about what he has accomplished every single year it’s incredible yes and by the way you would never throw got a six5 guy that can run like yeah that guy could play on I just think it’s because he I think it’s
Because it’s where he played so because he played in Tampa like it’s not a big place where people are pay attention to that team like he had the Brady time when you’re like oh Mike Evans but really his best stuff was under Winston because Winston just chuck chuck if he
Played for let’s say the Cowboys yeah he would be considered I think one of the most elite receivers to have play the game or here or Pittsburgh or Philly or it’s just there are some sleepy markets and Tampa is kind of a sleepy market and so like
He’s had this career that I don’t know if people notice it’s 10 straight thousand yard seasons yeah I mean that’s pretty remarkable we do have a little bit looks like a little bit of breaking news the Vikings have signed quarterback AJ Green our guy to a reserve future free agent
Contract the vi is putting that out yeah quy would know him well yeah he did put out a tweet he’s thank thankful for the last four years in Cleveland I appreciate the fans front office coaches and players I established relationship with over the years I’m glad we he survived the golf out
I don’t know if you’ll ever know he do he didn’t know he had no idea if that ball was six inches higher we had a real PRP it was a foot higher 18 inches up to his face we have a real I don’t even I can’t even imagine
The dam it was a screaming eagle it dented the that’s right metal on the frame of that bed on the frame on the cart yeah he was just sitting on yeah it was a rocket launched rocket fortunately he’s all right yeah you te that sucker off in St Andrew to roll 325
Yards it might still be roll yeah Mike Evans to your point 10,000 yard seasons five with at least 12 touchdowns as well seven with at least eight touchdowns and he’s averaged 15.3 yards for his career in fact he’s averaged over 15 yards per catch in all but three
Seasons first ballot gold jacket he’s got to be yeah it’s crazy he’s a five-time pro bowler never a First Team all pro a two time second Team all pro that’s crazy that’s just because they didn’t have success and he’s just they didn’t have the team success so good and
Consistent yeah he’s a stud total stud uh he’s a free agent he a free agent Tampa Bay has a lot of free agents to worry about they I think shefer tweeted out a list after their game and it’s it’s quite a large list so they’ll have
Some work that’s why they were in such a weird spot because it was kind of like a Now or Never but then they didn’t put themselves in that kind of a position and then they had to go ahead and now make tough decisions oh yeah no
Doubt same wrapping it up on the weekend was in snowy Buffalo the Chiefs behind Taylor Swift and Jason Kelce and a whole heck of a lot of fun in that Suite take down the bills 27 to 24 Z you know I think we all just were like oh
Kansas City’s done and I think they took that personal I don’t know if you saw Mahomes in the locker room that personally yeah they took that personally they look there laughing at their iPads yeah Mahomes in the Locker Room’s like this is what they wanted
Well now they look what they got yeah I mean 17 to 23 25 yards that’s a very Jordan situation like acting like people doubt you yeah you’re Patrick Mahomes dude people were doubting them they were the underdogs in the game we all everybody thought the bills were GNA
Beat them even in picking it I felt dirty picking against him for sure and said as much but you thought at some point Buffalo’s got to get him at some point like they lost at home to the Raiders in a really big spot for Kansas City when
They lost in December to the Raiders that’s a garbage game on Christmas day in National TV right right it’s like come on man but no I’m never I’m never going against him again I’m never gonna bet against him again I’m never gonna I’m never gonna be somebody who picks
Against him again like if he’s involved I’m in and he wasn’t even he was good enough though and I’ll tell you what Stefan Diggs shameful shameful you you have been you want you complain about the the way you’re used you are in the biggest game Buffalo’s had at their
Place in a long long time you have two chances that would have impacted the game tremendously and neither one you don’t take advantage of and and honestly the best thing that happened to him is that Bas Hadid missing the field goal because then it goes to him and opposed
To the blame on Diggs sure um all of that being said I got go give a stat go in the last 10 Buffalo bills games yep receiving yards khil Shakir 462 yep Stefan Diggs 422 targets oh boy khil Shakur did that on 37 targets y Stan digs did that on 80
Targets oh my gosh it’s five yards a Target brother yeah they need to so they can move off of him right they have to at this point to but they have cap problems too I it feels to me and with Josh Allen I don’t think you can ever really count
Him out but it feels like this was it this was the Clos so two years ago they were the favorite to win the Super Bowl uh this year and then this year like the last they’ve had this window and they did not take advantage of it what I was
Going to say is there is no question that in my mind even if bass and I don’t know if I felt I think you and I maybe even discussed this as soon as it kicked off I’m like I screw I believe this oh yeah I said I said it before the game
What are we doing when they did that corny thing where they had uh going this where they had n and Romo walking into Arrowhead to obviously like six months ago yes mind you yeah in case this because it was nice what a special game I was like oh yeah remember this gy this
A game you want to call reenactments are so good what are we doing I thought that in my Chiefs good that’s it um this is too bad it’s too bad the uh even if bass makes the field goal Mahomes would have driven and gotten a touchdown or a field
Goal there’s no doubt in my mind yeah I agree with that zero doubt that’s the way it right job good job with you thank you very good very good all right we’ve got higher lower still to come we’ve got the Joe Thomas half hour of the program you
Have that to look forward to coming up next we will go around the league you listen to Cleveland Browns daily on 850 ESP in Cleveland be part of one of the most passionate fan Bas of the NFL join NextGen STM presented by Ticket Master official waight list your Cleveland Browns being
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Harbaugh looks like he going to be with the Chargers that’s what we thought all we’ve been saying that all along he is in a way he he did now Michigan make him take take a half pay cut but he’s doing them pretty dirty here on that side of it
Because so here’s how this is going to work from the Michigan side of it as soon as he takes the job okay a 30-day window op where anybody on the Michigan roster can transfer so that would lead you into the brink of spring football and they could have what’s just recently
Happened to Alabama where you could have 20 kids leave the roster and a roster that you cannot replenish until the transfer window opens in April by the way just a question yeah in the sense of like Ohio State I know there are people who wanted to run
Day out of town yeah this to me this whole portal thing and what happens after it makes it almost if your coach is if your program’s strong which Buckey’s program is strong like he’s decent yeah and you’re not g to go who’s who without a home run replacement
Why would you expose your program that because now Ohio State’s already pilfered Alabama totally there’s a good chance that they might get some people from Michigan I would think yeah whoever they would want they will definitely make calls and press yeah so it’s when your coach leaves and in Michigan
Alabama there’s nothing they can do about this a retirement and a guy going to the NFL but it has I mean it feels to me Harbaugh leaving is going to be and I know that the kid vly disagrees with me but to me it feels like that’s going to
Be the end of their run as an elite program for the immediate future 100% it is because there’s no way they were losing everybody anyway so now they’re going to have an entirely new staff and now that roster can be absolutely pillaged so that’s going to happen as well what’s going him
Know always keep your head on a swivel kid um yeah it is and I mean what Ohio State as an aside what Ohio state has done with name likess in the portal in the last month they’ve never behaved like this as a football program ever we’ve never seen anything like this they
They all they they’re buying a championship in some on some level they’ve never done that right but I’m saying they are they’re finally behaving the way that the a lot of the of the sports they got organized on nil they got their ducks in a row on that and
They bought the best players in football full stop I saw PE Buckeye fans like upset because Lane kein said oh they cost him 13 million for the roster it was actually a quote from two years ago from Ryan day but regardless of that they were all upset about I’m like
So that’s the sport now you’re not gonna be upset when winning a national title what do you care that’s that’s the sport now sport is it UPS the pressure on like it to me it feels like they are a national title if they don’t win the national championship this it’s the best
Roster in college football by a pretty decent margin now yeah yeah so yeah they have five quarterbacks they had two fivar quarterbacks it’s crazy what they’ve done um now Harbaugh to the Chargers you like that for Herbert I do like that for Herbert he’s smart I mean
Harber will likely be there longer than Harbaugh because it’s you know he’s probably got like a four or five year shelf life but yeah I think that will be very good there will be an accountability that they didn’t have under Staley correct uh there will be a team building that they didn’t have
Under he’s won everywhere he’s gone yep so he and he was great with the 49ers the last time there so it makes all the sense in the world and he’s got history with the organization as well um the Eagles and offensive coordinator Brian Johnson parting ways second year in a
Row the Eagles will bring in two new coordinators I know there’s there was a pressor today in Philly between with hoe Roseman and serani and the way that I view this is this is Roseman who’s the most powerful person in that organization short of ownership yes
Saying you got one more chance to hire people don’t blow it I’m surprised they gave him that one more chance he was in the Super Bowl a year ago they were 10 and one yeah but like aend one and six it did it did it ended poorly but I think that they’re
Still my guess is that they were like you got you’re gon have one more chance to hire some coordinators and that’s that’s probably where that stands there by the way danan Jones little around in NFL dwan Jones was voted to the NFL all rookie team by the Pro Football writers association
Appropriate he should be yes agreed the Panthers are hiring Dan Morgan as their new general manager Morgan has been the assistant general manager there since 2021 he was a pro bowler with the Panthers in 2004 isn’t Luke Keeley in that building too he does speaking of former linebackers I think he does
Broadcast he’s a broadcast for him Keeley is yeah huh there you go so Morgan will be the new general guy yeah he was unbelievable he was a scout with them in 2020 and 2021 but he’s not with them as an executive anyone okay as of now the
Niners uncertain if they will have Deo saniel for the NFC championship game you said that was a 5050 proposition on that is the way that that was being told also about from an hour ago uh Mary Kay reporting that I don’t even know how to read
This well here’s what Tom peliso said no can’t read his either can I read it I’m gonna add a word to it okay reported former browns offensive coordinator Alex Van Pelt will interview for the Raiders offensive coordinator job this week per Source Joe Thomas up next you’re listen
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It for granted this is as excited as I’ve ever been to have the Hoff on oh man based on his Instagram oh man the life that’s being lived over there across the pond it’s outrageous the number one question I have you put a picture up of an IEX first I didn’t know
That you could hunt them in Europe that blew my mind for some reason my head buddy I thought they were like in Asia I didn’t even know that was possible but but apparently you did this I have to know you have to give me the scope on
The horns or antlers whatever it is called on the Ibex because it looked like it was like 12 feet across what’s up guys hey coming at you right now from Holes kirkin Germany we’re just running a little offensive line workout here at like the local uh
Gold’s Gym bobing and weaving in and out of a bunch of other Meatheads in Germany but uh I’m in my glory it’s it’s been pure chaos every single day total Adventure trying to navigate a German speaking world when I don’t SP say much more than uh Danka and that’s well one
Way to avoid is just to go to Spain that’s right so what I do I just went to Spain yes not a lot of hunting opportunities in German so I said screw it it’s a one hour flight to Barcelona let’s go there and let’s go chase some
Ibcs in the mountain that was an unbelievable trip um we had some crazy weather you go 30 40 mile in our winds so I had a buddy who did the hunt a year ago um and had a great experience and as soon as I knew I was going to be in
Germany I was like hey man you got to give me the details and so basically you book kind of like an intermediary gu guide who’s like a local who takes care of all the paperwork for your firearm it wasn’t even like I brought my own gun but just being able to hold somebody
Else’s gone and hunt with it you have to go to the Embassy and get all this paperwork of course pay your tax 70 then they give you a little stamp that say you’re allowed to that’s a lot of your salary there off take it easy take it
Easy basically yes that’s like one week right there down the drain just to hold somebody’s gun that’s not okay but hey we made it happen um yeah there’s the Asian Ibex there’s the European IEX I guess they’re all over the continent but there’s a bunch of different subspecies
Depending on what mountain range you’re in and so I actually hunted two different ones the greos and the bti um kind of one was by Madrid and one was by Barcelona but with the easy weather we had like just a couple little windows and as you saw from the pictures like uh
We had like clouds and wind and fog and rain all of a sudden everything parted and you could finally see the mountain because as you know Bo like living in Montana when it’s foggy up there it’s not like in in the states where you can kind of still see like you see nothing
Like we couldn’t see anything and all of a sudden fog parted we see this herd way up in the mountains we just went right after him took about a mile to get up there but thankfully we were kind of below him and there’s all these Boulders
We’re able to sne to win got close got lucky and then the best part is in Spain they they know how to do it right like we got the ibck and the guide who’s the local guide so you hire an intermediary guide he helps you the paperwork takes
You there and then there’s like a a gamekeeper who’s in charge of like that whole you know 50,000 acre National Park or whatever and he like manages the wildlife then you go with him as soon as we shot it he doesn’t speak any English but he was just like now we celebrate he
Pulls out two bottles of wine from his backpack and some uh I Beer Co pork it was unbelievable I was like hey this is I can get down with this give me the size of this thing I can’t I have no scope of it I have no scale so like are
You sending this was it being sent is it in transit back to Wisconsin are you eating it like what’s next yeah so um we left the meet with like the locals because there was the guide and then like the other guys so they they took the meat because I can’t bring it back
To Germany it’s as you can imagine like bringing meat across International borders a little tricky uh so we left the meat there and we traed him for some uh some pork belly and some P or I guess it’s not Pudo because it’s Spanish I for
The iiro ham kind of looks like p i delicious yeah um but I mean these things are bodywise they’re maybe 140 pounds so they’re not like massive but they’ve got these these enormous um horns on I mean they’re like a giant goat uh maybe like four foot long each
One of them and they’re just beautiful because they’re heavy like a the bottom and then they come to a little bit of a point on the top um but pretty awesome I mean these things are been living in these mountains for oogles and Googles of generations um
And to be kind of up there and be like the only person in a 50,000 acre National Forest who or Park who gets to hunt at that time with all these locals that are you know as soon as you see them they’re getting all excited they’re
Yelling at each other in Spanish and at one point I was like I asked my guide who was the translator what are they saying they’re all excited he goes there’s slang so fast he goes I don’t even know what they’re talking about but they’re saying the Hop’s gonna
Get us some meat that’s right that’s right they knew celebration was around the bend and it was that’s incredible these things are unbelievable I mean it’s like a I get so this that I’m thank you that that gives me perspective because I couldn’t tell the picture made
The horns look like they were 10 feet across it was huge go ahead Z I’ve got one followup they kind of look like a watusi but sorry I was going to say if you’ve ever seen a watusi like the wild bulls that’s kind of what it looked like
From the picture the guy took the picture and then I reposted he did some fancy like wide angle stuff and so they’re they looked a lot bigger than they really were and you know if I had a nickel for every time I I said that but
They still are really big even though it was it was a little bit of trickeration with the cameras all right all right so this is the one that I’m the most curious about pack up the fam New Year’s Day within two weeks you turn to Annie and say you’re
Going to be in with our whole family and I’m going to hunt the IEX in the mountains of Spain just talk to me about what did you have a what was the approach what was the approach because I feel like it had to be elaborate it had
To be full of gifts and flowers and perhaps spa treatments and whatnot how did you or maybe when you’re the Hoff you just say here’s what’s happened in your gold Jack I maybe yeah in the gold jacket robe that would be a yeah so how did how did that
Go well let me tell you the gold jacket doesn’t work inside the four walls of my so we we could just put that to the side there was definitely some horse trading that went on and as you know like you got about a month or two month window
Where you’re like all right I got to find the day where she is at her most happy like whatever happened during the day certainly wasn’t on my behalf but like the kids gave her a kiss said that they loved her whatever and then you pounce right so you wait for that right
Moment and I had it all in my pocket you know just like any good football player he’s practiced his plays he’s done his walkr I talked about like you practice in front of the mirror yeah oh yeah like this was this was me going in from my
Big breakthrough in Hollywood and and I I was like you know hey babe you know when we’re we’re in Europe um you know I’ve always dreamed of hunting in the mountains and it would be really awesome if it was possible you know if I could
Go to Spain I’ll do it during the week so the kids are in school and like you won’t have as much to worry about and she was like No And I was like I’ll wait I’ll wait I’ll let it sit in I I’ll get
Sink in for a little bit and it was the best because her girlfriend’s then like a week later that she always goes on this trip with every year like they started talking on a little chat group and I got wind of it that they were GNA
Come over to Austria and go skiing they were GNA do like a four- day ski weekend so I was like Bingo that’s my chance so then I then you got to wait again right you got to buy your time you got to wait another couple weeks let it sink in and
Marinate in her brain and then when she she’s happy again she’s getting all excited and you pounce again and you say hey did you get a chance to uh finalize any of those plans for Austria do you want me to make those flights for you like you really should fly first class
Like that’s that’s a tough trip like do you want me to rent your skis is there anything else I can get arrange for you like you guys got to get a nice hotel oh by the way is it cool I’m gonna go to Spain on uh J January 21st for that
Week we and then she’s got nothing she can say about it she’s in Austria in a couple weeks so how was okay how was your reception upon return was it a joyous Embrace of people who had been separated by geography or or was it you take care of all these kids for a
While uh it was pure misery Z it was I should have stayed in Spain I made the wrong decision so you almost needed to come back and send her to Austria like the day that you got back like I’m back a yeah I mean they said so we didn’t even
Have to see each other day I got back so I killed the first Ibex on Monday in near Madrid in the uh greos mountains and then we drove the next morning to beeti which is like I five hours away and then we hunted that afternoon got
Super lucky got uh another Ibex and then Thursday um we had like kind of a day at leisure to drive back to Barcelona so we had like five hours so we stopped on the coast whole trip I was checking in FaceTiming with the family being Mr dad like I miss you guys so
Much all I can do is think about you meanwhile I got the secretto pork shoulder that’s uh marinating under the most delicious Spanish sauce I’m drinking the Spanish wines with every meal I I gain 15 pounds in five days guys what and uh oh it was it was an I
Can’t wait I haven’t posted the food yet I’m gonna just do a stream because I took a picture of all the meals I ate I’m going to do one like real on Instagram of just every meal that I ate and you guys the the guy actually told
Me he goes I’ve never seen anybody in my life eat like that I said well when’s the next time I’m gonna be in Spain I’m like I I don’t know when I’m gonna get a chance to eat iico pork ever again the secretto I don’t know if you’ve ever
Heard of it it’s like this little cut behind their shoulder and it was legit amazing of course they SED it and then they put like this white sauce over the top it was unbelievable but anyways so I uh I was getting F and happy whole week was amazing she was really happy so
Happy to see her so then the B drop till Friday morning so we’re living in the fourth floor of this little apartment in Munich which it’s a good siiz apartment it’s got three bedrooms which is bigger than most Apartments but like we’re four kids that are used to living around in
The country they’re animals like they’re used to making a lot of noise and she’s walking out the door to take the kids to school Friday morning meanwhile I’m getting home at Friday at 1 she’s she’s going to take the kids to school and the neighbor below us walks up the stairs
And stops her in the hallway and says I’ve been waiting for two weeks and I can’t take any longer you kids are making so much noise mom you need to get control of your children and she started balling in front of this lady I mean it
Was pretty out of line but I guess that’s how German ladies are like one of her friends direct they’re just direct just super direct and that’s what she said like our friend that plays for the Red Bulls he was a Badger hockey guy and they live in unic and um Annie and his
Wife Jess have been real good friends for all they’re actually going to Austria together so I don’t feel bad for it that much but uh but anyway so Jess told her hey like when I’m in the park and if my kids are like not wearing a sweatshirt and it’s cold like the moms
Will come up and yell at me like you don’t know how to dress your kids that’s just how they are right but this mom like had the had the nerve to just stop her made her late for school telling her how her kids are out of control and of
Course then I get home like three hours later hey honey how you doing you know busting in the door like Kramer getting ready for my kiss she wouldn’t even look at me she she hated me for 24 hours but you just got to buy your time again you
Got to remember with the Germans two world wars yes it’s an aggressive it’s an aggressive people like it’s you know what I mean like it’s two of them like they’re they’re bold it’s an audacious group I just want for all the all the fellas out there
Listening hops are just like the rest of us they’re just like all yeah they yes they just have golden robes has a gold jacket that’s it he still has to we still we all have to negotiate Huff are you looking are you looking in you got
To hunt these red deer in Bavaria right look at this thing see doesn’t he need one of those guys that thing looks like the the thing that’s on like the Glen fit bottle oh man yeah it’s a be yes yes yeah so that’s the next uh the next
Thing I’m looking into so of course my guy Pablo Carl who’s uh I don’t know how he say his last name is Spanish but he’s from Barcelona he’s like the guy that kind of books everything for you I told him I said hey man we’re gonna have some
By weeks like in September uh like end of August I know that they’re going to be rting in the mountains like I’ll give you my time and then I can get off like let’s get together and Hunt these red stag because they’re like elk but they
Roar and they so they kind of look like elk they act like elk but they’re like they sound like dinosaurs when you’re in the mountains with them and so I’m hoping we can get on one of them I like it when are you coming back it’s a year
Right it’s one year right Hoff no not a full year so our season ends Memorial Day or sorry it starts Memorial day ends Labor Day and then the playoffs is like three some you know beginning of September so as soon as we’re done like I’m out you know and the kidss are going
Home in in August to start school okay um but yeah as soon as as soon as our season’s over Bachelor H oh my God hold on a second wait a second wait a what how what’s you have you’re gonna have a month yes that’s true so I won’t be
Practicing any uh I’m sorry Honeys in the mirror before I go and Hunt something when nobody’s home to yell at me and not kiss me when I get home from my trips to Spain just a Boulevard of green lights I mean how here’s the question though it’s unbelievable hold on how do
We yeah me and you yeah how do we get to Germany in this period we got to get there in like August we have to get there in this period well look couple of days in Camp they miss us no big deal no big deal yeah you miss those things I
Mean I you guys don’t do the the show on the weekends anyway can you get to Munich from Cleveland for a weekend in and out oh yeah in and out in and out baby hey I’ll have the whole place scouted out don’t worry we can go
Anywhere we can go to Spain if you guys want I hear it’s pretty nice in August go to gree MOS so with all of this we oh my good with all of this going on we should do a little have you been able to keep track of what’s going in the NFL
Playoffs like what is it like to consume the league over there it’s in the middle of the night yeah biggest Downer right is like the playoffs is everybody’s Joy I mean even after we got eliminated like you’re still the games are so great and the story lines are amazing and it’s so
Sad because even the first game doesn’t start till 10:30 at night and then the next game’s like you know midnight 2 am so like with the Browns I just put my phone on airplane mode and then me and the family woke up early and we watched
It at like 7 a.m. on replay and that was sad sad you’re probably feeling pretty good 14 to 10 and then one play later 17 14 well yeah I mean you should have seen us it was I sure like a lot of Browns fans it was pathetic but like you know
We wake up Sunday morning everyone’s excited like 5:30 in the morning nobody can sleep we’re like we want to know what happened want to watch the game so make coffee mom makes breakfast she’s got like avocado toast she bought some waffles from the local bakery she’s like cooking the waffles like I’m sitting
Down figuring out how to get it on like replay without seeing what the final score was so uh our guy Paul Brown from London gave me his login because I couldn’t get like my hack stick to work so he gives me his days in DN or
Whatever is login so that I can watch the replay with the family so I get it all ready we eat our little breakfast we’re all cozied up on our one couch there’s like six of us on this little three-seater couch we’re watching the game feeling great in the first half and
Of course we don’t have to revisit the second half but then as soon as it’s over like it’s Sunday at 10: it’s a beautiful day in Munich and everybody goes outside in Munich on Su days cuz like nothing’s really open but everyone just gets out when it’s nice and like we
Were just like a ball of Tears in in our little apartment and I was like we just need to get outside we need to change the venue we need to get our minds off of this and Jack of course is like in tears and he doesn’t he won’t leave like
I physically he was so mad I physically had to grab him by the arm and we pulled him into the out outside of the apartment and I dragged him down the stairs we went outside and everything was no no I don’t want to do anything no
No love passion hey do you want to go eat ice cream and cookies no no I just want to go to the room and I and you know finally by the end of the day we got them around but like it’s been it’s been tough not watching the playoffs and
Just catching up on replays in the morning yeah there were some good ones there were some good games that’s setting up to be I think a pretty good final four here with the Niners and the Lions and the Chiefs and the Ravens what do you what do you who do you like in
Those games just kind of off the top of your head when you think of those matchups yeah I mean I think they’re great matchups I think you guys is they’re always so good those those final four and I’m cheering for the lions that you know my best buddy uh growing up was
Always a lions fan and you know he was the pin cushion of uh all of our jokes and you know being that the Lions the Browns there’s some mutual respect and love for a couple fan bases that have been you know they’ve had some tough times no Super Bowls and so I’m pulling
For the Lions but obviously I got a got a man crush on Kyle Shanahan so I’d like to see him win his Super Bowl uh on the other side I hope they both lose same I want at this point I want whoever wins the NFC to Wi like win it and I’m
Obviously ners but I’d be thrilled for goth thrilled for the Lions thrilled for the the fans of the Lions they don’t even playing this but you would take the Chiefs over the Ravens right I can’t have the Ravens winning a Super Bowl again I can’t have that no that would be
That’s that’s too much no we can’t have Simone well that’s no God no Simone cheste no no can’t have it no but I I mean I think the the Chiefs I’ll speak on behalf of my family like we we cheer against them because they’re starting to be the Patriots you know but
They’re a likable Patriots because you like Patrick Mahomes I like Kelsey’s a Cleveland guy I like Andy Reid like there’s nobody there’s nothing about the team I don’t like other than the fact that they’ve had a ton of success but I would still it’s an easy one who I’m
Cheering for between them and the Ravens yeah agreed and I think what was cool about that Chiefs game is that going into it you know you a lot of people really thought the bills were going to get it done and and momes had never played a road pre postseason game before
And they went in there and got it done and even if he’ made that field go bone I’d said we both felt like Mahomes was going to put points on the board I mean just that’s he just felt he had Supreme confidence in him in what he was going
To be able to do I thought it was a really impressive win and one that you know if they go this year and let’s you know again it’s not our it’s our third choice out of the four teams but if they go into Buffalo beat Miami at home into Buffalo
Into Baltimore and then go to the Super Bowl and beat the ners or the Lions really at that point but especially if it was the ners that would be as impressive a run as as you really could have I mean that would solidify say more about yeah it would say more about his
Legacy than anything I think he’s done before this point especially because the team was I wouldn’t say in shambles but compared to where they usually are in December like he really had to pull this team up and put him on his back to get him into the playoffs in December and
Then storm through the playoffs like those are the things that greatness and legends are made of and that people are going to point to yeah he was amazing before that moment but that was when he separated himself and put him in that you know Tom Brady Payton Manning type
Category in my book well he he’s gonna play in a six straight AFC Championship game so every year he’s been in the league and played he’s played to the AFC Championship gam so he’s gonna do that on Sunday if he gets to the Super Bowl it’s his fourth Super Bowl out of the
Six that he’s played in if he wins it it’d be his third win like you start to get to like it’s kind of like a LeBron in the East thing right and then it you start to say like oh maybe he can track down Brady at that
Point if if because he’s in his mid late 20s at this point like there’s plenty of time like this could go on for a while like you this is starting to get historical at this point for him yes yeah I I think too the other thing that
I think about with Brady and you know I don’t know if this is General consensus but when he was doing it early on it was defense running game you know he was not a game manager but you get the idea and then he had that great offense with
Randy Moss and and then he had a lot of weapons and all of a sudden he didn’t have weapons but he was winning those Super Bowls that’s to me what I see with Patrick Mahomes right now he doesn’t have the weapons he had previously yeah and he’s doing it himself and he’s
Finding new ways and to me that’s a sign of true greatness is when you’re making the guys around you that much better and you can go win a Super Bowl with you know guys not named Tyreek Hill You Know Travis Kelce playing good but not what
He was a couple years ago and and a de you know a team that isn’t as strong around him but he makes them better through his own play but also his leadership how do you think Taylor S felt about sharing a box with a grizzly bear shirtless pounding maybe a hundred
Beers yes that was amazing by the way I I love that I feel bad that I feel bad I don’t know me and Hawk have this argument about if Taylor Swift’s doing this for the publicity or or not not fully with you guys like she’s got everything she needs the last thing she
Wants is more publicity she’s just shown up to these games to support her boyfriend and because they’re fun and then all these NFL fans are hating on her because all the TV cameras want to do is find her uh so I think she probably liked having uh Kelsey in the
Booth there going bananas and kind of acting normal around her right I think that’s probably why she likes being at these football games because she has people acting normal around her and I think she probably misses that being such a celebrity the most watched visional playoff game ever yeah correct
Over 50 million people yeah yeah if you can say what J Jason Kelce was doing as normal but I guess being from Cleveland we could we could call that normal behavior at a football game my favor just like he was like a wild bison my favorite was when he left out he leapt
Out of the box found this little girl that was had a Taylor Swift sign put her on his shoulder like Andre the Giant walked her up to the booth so that she could meet Taylor and then brought her back and then hopped up back into the booth shirtless no he’s like a superhero
Give me more give me more like the final uh trump card in your argument Hoff is she’s the most famous person famous female person in the world period the end full stop so like she doesn’t need anything way before she did way before she’s enhanced his profile exponentially
More than hers correct um Hoff last time we had you on uh we were talking about the the Bayern Munich operation and then while we were on we came to light that fron beckenbauer had passed yeah I it’s been like a week of more I know you were
In Spain and stuff too what was it like in the country in that town in that City with with that giant Fallen yeah you’re exactly right I mean it it’s cool because where I live I’m like a mile from the kids school so i i
W we walked the kids to school or we’ll take the bus and I basically take the Subway or the the bus pretty much everywhere and so just like New York City you walk by and they’ve got like the newspaper stands and you know his face almost all week was on the front
Page and um when we had our workouts with our team a bunch of guys were wearing his jersey which was pretty cool and I talk about a great way to kind of break down the cultural barriers with my team go up and start talking to him about Derek Kaiser thank you boys for
That by the way because they were blown away that an American knew who he was and that I would go up just out of nowhere and just show my respect so that was pretty cool so I appreciate that guys I I got a lot of brownie points
With my team for for knowing who that was good number one good number two the idea that you need points with your team to be the offensive line coach of of the Munich Ravens in the whatever German Football League me hey do you have your tickets or you going do you have youry
Game when are we going when are you going yeah so we had a we had a free weekend Saturday well half a weekend because I I work out my old line Saturday morning at 7 and then I don’t have another workout till Sunday night because these guys they all they all
Work it’s I mean it’s like the old school NFL they work during the day and that’s why I’m at a workout now at 8:00 with him um but so I had a couple like 36 hours and we’re like what are we going to do so I was like number one we
Got to go to a Bayern Munich game if they’re in town I looked it up they’re not in town this weekend so I was like all right we’ll put a pin in that what’s number two we want to do let’s go to the mountains let’s go skiing so we’re going
To garish Parton kirkin and uh we’re going to rent like a chalet and do some more skiing love uh but but Bayern Munich I got their schedule pulled up and uh we’re definitely gonna catch a game that’s that number one priority on our list right now I love it
Great it’s great it’s great what an adventure one last one last question gohe yeah yeah what was the reaction of the people seated around you whatever event you were at where Annie came back bearing 48 hot dogs oh that was great hey what a great video that was
Unbelievable so we were at the Red Bull Munich hockey game which is a cool environment it’s like old school I don’t know maybe 1960s NHL it’s a stadium that onlys like 8,000 people but it’s 100% sold out the whole year they got a quarter of the stadium is for the way
Fans so they’re playing Berlin and them and Berlin have a big rivalry and so everybody in the Berlin side it’s like a mini soccer game I would think they all got flags they’re waving they’re waving like the Berlin flag they’re all chanting in German at each other yelling
At each other there’s fights and stands so we went because my uh buddy from the Badgers Ben Street he’s like he’s one of their top guys he’s um on the team so we went to the game with his wife Jess and their kids and I had to leave in the second period
To go work my guys out so I jumped on the train and got out of there and Jess took that video and sent it to me she goes your wife is a special one because my kids are just complaining like the whole game we’re starving we’re starving
And she’s like this is not an NFL game they don’t have like concessions everywhere we can get wherever you want but they I guess beat her down enough where she went to the concession stand so she got them like two Sprites four hot dogs a couple pretzels and of course
She got a beer for herself so that that gave me a lot of love when I saw that because she’s she’s you know like shimmying through the stands like a mouse going under uh under the cracks of the door and this Stadium it’s old old school Stadium right so it’s super steep
Like each step is like 18 inches by like 12 inches wide so I don’t know how she made it up there without spilling but only an American mom of four kids could have survived that she’s an athlete athlete that’s simple yeah tell that tell that uh Nast the mean German lady
Take some of that look at this video some of that yeah how about that she couldn’t do that I know that my kids it’s great now they have a nickname for her they her her name is Carolina I’m sure she’s not listening so call her out
Her name is Carina and uh so they call her Karen Karen raspberry middle name moldy so they call her Karen moldy raspberry so they’re like she won’t know what that is if we’re talking about her around her if we call her The Moldy raspberry just just remember at any
Point if you want a trump C just remember we won the world wars we won we beat them sorry I wish you know it went worked out well for us we won you’re losers yes I’m holding that in the back pocket I’m I’m waiting for the right moment I’m
Gonna have my return ticket bought for the next yeah you need a lot of a lot of a lot of people on the good side there yeah that’s right all right this has been a real treat uh buddy and keep thank it’s such a pleasure to to to
Share that you’re sharing it on the social and get to see The Adventures of the Hoff in I miss them we miss Le we have these these wonderful ketchups I me gota have them enjoy your time buddy we’ll talk to you soon appreciate guys hey thanks thanks for having me on man I
Miss you guys so much I’m gonna go back in there and finish my workout with my guys I’ll send you a video of what our gym looks like a little different than Berea right now I would imagine are they like surprised at how strong and jacked you still
Are yeah well we had a push-up competition but the dude I was going against like we we paired up all the team and any chance I get I jump in with the guys to try to do stuff that that I’m orthopedically able to do and so there was a push-up competition at the
End of our workout on Sunday night and the one guy that’s left of course is the fullback so he looks like Dan vital right he looks like he’s straight out of the Navy SEALS or whatever the German equivalent is so we do as many push-ups
As you can do in two minutes he did 107 strict push-ups all the way with his chest to the ground and all the way up in two minutes and I did 56 I think and I like my my shoulders feel like they’re melting like molten lava right now he
Doubled up my push-ups but then after it was over he goes oh so inspiring you’re so inspiring and I was like inspiring you did twice as many push-ups as I did you gotta get that guy on the bring Sally up bring Sally down program that’s
Right oh man I’m ready all right H what next good talk every apprciate it it’s amazing what an adventure he it could have been a reality show easily should have been should have been it really should have been because it’s it’s a hell of a thing
Like that I like the the first 10 minutes wor some of my favorite the favorite stuff ever yeah there’s a lot of life lessons there in the H yeah were you guys taking notes in there should have taken notes ooo that’s marriage right there he just showed he just gave
You marriage there’s been a lot of love advice on the show today with your your light situation at your home we had this yeah pay attention we’re we’re a program that helps the people we’re trying to see it’s about don’t care about the life if you do care about something then you
Gotta really get a build up build that up maybe barter a little bit sure absolutely we’ll do a little higher lower coming up next listen at cev the Bron da on 850 ESPN Cleveland in a car truck or motorcycle accident caused you injury call the injury
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Up uh so we’re going to go back and revisit the rankings that Griff and I made to start the playoffs um we ranked the quarterbacks from one to 14 in terms of confidence uh I don’t I speak for both of us here and formerly apologizing
To Jared G for putting him at 11 good job that as you guys both pointed out needed to be way higher yep because he is now in the NFC championship game for the second time in his career yep so uh for Jared gof definitely higher than than where we had him at 11
Yes all right so is this if if we’re to take your list here so this is all of the quarterbacks in the playoffs this is you want to rerank the remaining four yeah so I feel like we the idea was we kind of go over what we had done and see
If Griff and I did well you didn’t which we did not at all no if you look at these 14 uh we had Jordan love apparently too low we had CJ Str appar love you or Jord you had him 12 buddy yeah too low Jared gof too low yeah moral of the story
Is when we rerank the new four we should probably uh reconsider some things for these guys I think the top six should have been momes Jackson Allen py Goff and Stafford pie was tough because PR is still a hard one yeah like I don’t know
He finish the way he he he did did he did it it was bad up until then but he did he did he did deserves credit for that he also has the best operation around him and the best roster around him they were going to make the Super Bowl last year
If they had Brock pretty healthy right like they were doesn’t lose they feel like he probably would have he’s just tough because every time I watch him play I don’t know if he’s good or not but then they keep winning so I don’t I think he’s good he it’s it vacillates
With him look at this look at this little skip LIF bar he’s got a a monk strap look at a monk strap he does have monk strap yeah you love a monk strap buckle on those babies for sure I’m sure that’s made of some sort of fine Spanish deer
Yeah um Al lanolin here’s the um you know with uh with with this operation that we’re doing here the one that if if you were to say I I honestly think Mahomes is Far and Away one that was the easiest one to put Far and Away one
And two is without question Jackson I think you could make an argument that gof is three because he’s played in a Super Bowl he’s taken a second franchise to an NFC Championship game and he was really good last week what was he 11 to 12 in the fourth something like that my
I wonder if you asked Kyle if he could just trade pie for Goof straight up would he do it here’s the thing though does does Kyle have a blind spot for quarterback I they you know what I mean like he drafted Lance has that was a mistake he drafted
Lance like he wanted Garoppolo and then kind of did it but Garoppolo they went to a Super Bowl I know but he didn’t really once he had him he couldn’t wait to get out of him yeah right like they it’s not like they’re not Geniuses for landing py anybody could have drafted py
They passed over him six times so like he stumbled into pie like I don’t maybe that’s just his one blind spot yeah maybe I don’t know how you make sense of that how you can be a genius and everything but for some reason you can’t go certainly could run this
Offense it’s like to him quarterback isn’t the most important position on the field and it’s just we’re going to give you 10 other good players and he’s just got to run what this is what it is this is what it is it’s it’s Ricky Bobby Kyle Shanahan wants a driver he
Does not want a thinker so what he wants is he wants a guy to throw it where it’s supposed to be thrown I don’t need you do doing something that isn’t necessary yeah that would take the off to another level which is probably why he was transfixed by uh and seduced by Lance
But that’s not really what he wants what he really wants is we’re going to run this play this time this time this time they’re run the exact same action we’re going to throw out of it and you’re gonna have a guy right here and you’re
You need I need you to put it on him yeah that’s what he wants so Ricky Bobby is a driver Ricky Bobby is not a thinker that’s I think that’s what Kyle wants like he wants a Smart Guy back to the back to the defense turns guy is wide
Open because I designed it that way and he threw it there accurately that’s what he wants pie is better than he’s given credit for and sometimes but your dad said he’s Montana so he’s not that either no but he’s really good so it’s swerves it it vacillates between he’s
Overrated he’s underrated well and we also put the society we live in in the jobs that we do you assign that baseed on one game’s performance yeah like if he has a horrible game against the Lions it’s G to that’s the talk if he lights it up against the Lions of boy Montana’s
Back it’s just the way it is it’s just the nature that’s the nature of the be I think yeah I think that you guys had you had gof and love criminally low I think it turns out you had 202 High you had flacko unfortunately too high and I
Understand why we did that and you had it was hard to know it at the time so maybe where you had Dak relative to his regular season performance was spot on but it’s hard to trust him right now Dak was tough because he continually was coming off he was coming off a fantastic
Regular season in which he could have won one MVP and then does the same he’s going finish second because the voting’s done at the end of the regular season so he’ll finish second in the MVP here’s the thing on on let’s do a guess the stats for youo since you’re in the place
Of GIB uh guess the stats Brock pie completion percentage this season this season this season guess the stats Z versus Uno go ahead I’d say 69 72 right 69.4 okay he’s a lot better at this give it yes yards passing Brock pie this season yards passing 17 games didn’t he
Played 16 played 16 played 6 I knew it and I totally forgot where he was 4300 4150 4280 this kid’s a savant on the stats he’s looking at the NFL stats he said he had seen it seen it we did hear that so he’s he’s 69.4 4280 yeah what’s his yards per
Attemp attt 9.6 that led the league right that’s are you on Pro our reference uh and 31 touchdowns 11 picks yes his ratings 113 his qbr was 72.8 yes I wouldn’t have had that yes are you on Prof ball R first no I was on ESPN hold
On I can tell you which of those on Prof football reference because they bold it if it if if it’s leader if it led the league he’s he definitely led the league in yards per attempt and he doesn’t turn the ball over much either does he he did
Have 11 picks this year so that but that’s there were more interceptions in the League this year we had a couple of years where like Rogers Mahomes would be like 42 touchdowns four picks like 31 to 11 I mean no no sure but like you did see more interceptions this year
Than we so P led the NFL in the following categories touchdown percentage yards per attempt air yards per attempt yards per completion rating qbr that’s crazy yeah he was great was great great he was great by the way he did not have a single fourth quarter comeback or
Game-winning Drive in the in 2023 until week one of the playoffs now he could have had one against us but Moody missed the kick yeah and it’s weird because like when he was here the game he played here he was Dreadful we saw him in in
Person he was Dreadful yeah but that was pretty much honestly that was pretty much it no true and then he wasn’t good until the last Drive last weekend you know he was bad against us he was bad against the Ravens he was his worst game of the season
Yeah the two games where he didn’t have Debo for most of the game is what the kids are saying the correlation yeah here’s the those were the only two games this year that he had below a 64% completion and then he only had three games all year where he completed fewer
Than 66% of his passes yeah the amount of as a different angle of all of this all of the pressure is on Lamar Jackson of the four guys that are left everybody else yeah there’s pressure on the ners but it won’t be on pie like if it falls
At his feet I think most some on him I would go better list Lamar one pie two Mahomes 3 GF four from a pressure standpoint I think Go’s totally house money totally Mahomes is a lot of house money yeah um it’s all and and I think the difference between Jackson and P is
Sign ific you know if if py falls on his face there will be the it’ll be a tough off seon for sure yeah uh they’re at home all of the things um but this is this is a Lamar Jackson weekend agre gonna win the MVP perhaps unanimously again um and
And if you you’re at home you’ve been rolling for a month Chiefs aren’t what they used to be same thing we said about Josh Allen same thing we said about Josh Allen which is gotta be why I’m not going against mom can’t do it can’t do it all right good
Job there you go uh so much more to come you’re listening to Cleveland Browns daily on 850 ESPN Cleveland from tone here in the last 15 minutes the Browns interview Texans quarterback coach jro Johnson today um so that is happening we had talked about that reportedly tone T Grossi he’s on it um
And then we have uh this from Connor or um it sounds like the browns offensive line coach Bill Callahan uh will not be joining his son staff uh Cleveland has been fiercely protective of Bill in recent years plus he’s one of the highest paid assistant coaches in the
NFL so I don’t know what to read for that I feel like the kid asked like I guess I’m that’s interesting and I don’t know what validity to get that these are all just reports from Diana Rini former Falcons head coach Arthur Smith has received serious interest from more than seven
Teams about joining their staff as the offensive coordinator per sources he will have options I can’t wait to talk to Joe I want to know about hunting these deer in Bavaria that’s what that’s my real Focus for this off season 303 deer hunting in Bavaria that’s what I want why wouldn’t
It be I want that when they’re in the rut in September I love the idea of that uh the next level is CED up deck thanks for listening ready Cleveland BR 850 ESPN Cleveland
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