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Unfiltered may not be suitable for all audiences listener discretion is advised Welcome to Patriots unfiltered I do have a theory though first Theory at 12:06 Evan’s trying to stay humble even though he’s not really being humble that’s my favorite thing to do here everybody will be rooting against Mahomes because he’s not as good as Tom or we got to keep them from being the
Goat correct right which is so transparent you know the difference between you and and what you don’t say that momes sucks oh no I like fabricating reasons to root against teams the the problem sure can’t stand it any planer than that Paul do you have a vantage point to see if Fred’s Food
Stains on his Emerson shirt are still there from last week Fred did you wash it screw oh and there was still so much time left and I looked at Beth I said that’s got to be wrong it’s got to only be second down they’re not going to call time out
We still got to wait till 1 second on the play clock they could force us to have to run a fourth down play but if they do let’s make sure it’s with less than 5 seconds left are you thinking about being an NFL coach may I recommend the
Paul pello School of clock FR management this is Patriots unfiltered presented by Toyota’s official website for deals buat toyota.com Patriot all right welcome to Patriots unfiltered it is Thursday here at jet stadium and we’re uh how many days into the Gerard Mayo regime I think about eight
Eight days I told there no math8 days so things are we’re still waiting on hires uh interviews are happening the wheels are turning but um no smoke out of the chimney yet we don’t know uh yeah the Chargers took that one last night when they hired Harbaugh they they hired
Harbaugh that was big yeah got a big one whole uh yeah barrel full of social media post just ready to go on J harau so yeah congratulations to them so what did they what did they say they had one that was like the the pope oh I mean
Paul this is not stuff that is that interesting it’s like you know it’s no I was just curious what they said was it like a um did anybody do anything Powderpuff Girl or some kind of cartoon character with like a bunch of pictures of harbon I don’t know they had a whole
They had a bunch of them they really do love themselves I used to think Fred like the smell of his own farts but no one likes the smell of their own farts like the Chargers content so out of pocket no and they’re all pitching ideas like great we’ll do that one great we’ll
Do that one like they don’t no you’re the best everybody we’re doing all of them they’re a little overrated I’m not going to lie okay uh speaking of content though I I do need to clear the air on behalf of on behalf of our own content
Team uh Brett from lemonster writes in I have a friend who listens to the worst reporters on Patriot stuff every bad trade or move they say the Patriot should do he runs by our group one of these morons slagged off the promo for Deuce’s new podcast 2003 the super
Sequel because they didn’t show bellich he thinks it’s because craft made it so I searched for a promo for the 01 podcast and only found an audio one which didn’t mention craft either while he was the coach but didn’t find a video what can I tell my friends because I
Know craft did not tell Deuce to scrub bichi on the promo well thank again my friend not only did he not not only did not tell Deuce he didn’t tell the person who did the promo um I thought she did a great job I because I heard all this
Thing you know I didn’t even know it I didn’t even see it before went out but I heard you didn’t put bellich in there so I went to her I said did you do that on purp she like no I like you know I had
It was really long I cut it down and he just didn’t wasn’t in there so it was it was a weird um Genesis of that because it was initially just an audio trailer that Matt had made and then we just put video onto it so people were losing
Their mind yesterday I mean I’m having people oh shauny was tweeting about it today they’re dming me did they not have a coach back then I had a lot of people mention it to me they’re dming me because of the cover we do the people I interviewed and they’re like why why
Would you have peol and not bill I interviewed peoli like I don’t people are just losing their mind probably would have interviewed Bill if he would have done it no no just no just the important people Paul sorry we can’t post anything that’s rude dude I have my
Own clock management school so like when we post this thing and Bill’s not interviewed are we going to get CRA for that I I don’t know I people were I mean it’s like I couldn’t even really engage with it CU it’s like when do you start
To like explain and I’m like dude I mean look I’m the hoodie guy you think that I’m going to go and like it wasn’t ention that’sa I I will say that wrong with no there were a couple cuts where if I was doing it like the the safety
Maybe you know you cut to bill on the sideline you know that would have been a good edit but again it was just a a teaser for a podcast I for I’m glad you brought this up which by the way the podcast is just audio you know it’s not
I didn’t talk to bill in it either it was nothing against Bill there is a bill cut in it and I do mention his name a few times and we do talk about that he was the coach and people stop and before anybody wants to go down this road the
Invitation for bich to be included in in these pieces of content that we do is there is always there right yeah right we we ask all the time we I’m sorry we ask all the time and generally uh do not get access so if anyone’s listening that
It’s part of the cabal yesterday of conspiracy and I blame a lot of your people Paul yeah this was uh this predated my people yesterday my guess is my people will be upset about that today this was the annoying people on Twitter these are the people yeah this was on Twitter it
Was people commenting on my community articles as if we didn’t have a months long what like three months we started planning the 30th anniversary of Robert Croft buying the team as we weren’t going to do that stuff but there there is a group of people who literally
Thought that bich like proof radar stuff before got published when he that’s my people yeah I mean like no he has nothing to do with it and no we didn’t leave him out on purpose you know that was a one minute trailer I don’t know I I couldn’t I couldn’t
Believe it and it’s still like continuing in today like and people are so angry about it I’m like it’s a bad look why are you so like this is getting you angry Petty like I wrote that the absence of Bill and I mean and especially just I laugh because helping
Because it’s me like because it’s me the bill Bel hoodie guy that did it like oh Brian myy was texting me all night you know I said what are you gunning for the Falcons job like what are you you know he’s he’s he’s uh he’s lost his mind
Yeah how is he doing yeah not well not coping well like I I I jabbed him I said listen when we do the Hernandez biopic Phill will be front and center he didn’t like that he made he made me snarf my diet Pepsi last night when he texted
That to me that’s good but like you know like I don’t know how many times I can like if you don’t want to believe it that’s fine you don’t want to believe me that’s up to you it’s your prerogative but I’m just telling you no you know and
People like like no seriously just just tell me did you guys purposely yeah yeah did we just we’re in a we’re in a lose lose situation when it comes to these things though because like us responding to it it does no and I I do I I find
Myself of course I I get like you know defensive it’s our brand you know it’s our our content so like I want to defend the the wall and everything but like there’s no use for it like if it was true I would just keep my mouth shut and
Take it you know that’s that’s what I do do how many times people have accused me of doing that oh like oh you write what they want you to right just I mean right what are you going to do I’ve been here for 24 years and that’s and we’ve said
It before that is one thing that I love about the crafts it’s from the day we I started we did the newspaper they said when it comes to football you be objective just don’t take any cheap shots or but and you know Evan um the uh
The guys from the NFL when we’re Germany said yeah we use your stuff to get to prep you know you know your analysis because we’re objective about it it’s cuz they’re German they don’t know anything about no not NFL people said it well it just you know I can’t even I
Can’t even get them to give me a sideb no because you’re not helping in this situation you’re not helping Paul yeah you’re just because you just have to embrace it like yeah it’s not you know what you do yeah if you thought you did it on purpose then it’s worth yeah
Talking about yeah like I’ll agree like there were a couple cuts where okay you could have used Bill there but like sure yeah Charlie Weiss too like I don’t know what good engagement yeah that’s that’s how I way I look at it by the way I
Thought it was a great trailer not a trailer but a Sizzle real yeah it was it was well done and I think Alex is right it probably got more eyeballs on it yeah the people because someone made a comment about it did you see this no
What did I miss you missed well it’s not what you missed it’s what they missed they didn’t put bill in it it’s all a little like there I agree with you I disagree with leaving bill out of the trailer on purpose they they they’re the these people are so obsessed with the
Boston media whether it’s us or in-house Media or external media and they they think we’re worthless they think that they’re you know like that our jobs are worthless but they spend more time talking about how our jobs are worthless than we spend doing our jobs so like who
Like who’s the one that’s who’s the one not getting paid to do it right it’s like you sit on Twitter all day every single day and if somebody tweets out something you have notifications on for all of us and it’s immediate you know keyboard Warrior and it’s just it’s just
Get a life honestly pent up emotion today they have they have their Bots that are crawling everything that we do yeah see this is I just had to get that out of the way for Evan this is like you know you’re not really used to being in
This spot where this happen this this I’m telling you it happens all the time it happens all the time I almost I was like I was circling the wagons but I was like I better not I better not and Fred’s Fred’s only slightly exaggerating when he says that you know like like
Mike and Tony have Mike used to come in here and argue with Fred felger Mike felger all the time back when he had his old show at the old ESPN and they legitimately thought that like we have to get things proofread or checked out by football like you can’t
Write that they wouldn’t write that if they didn’t get the okay like that bill was like going over copy with a fine tooth cone yeah you know like so this is stuff we’ve been dealing with mat Matt mat WR in I love you Fred but there’s no
Way anyone is going to believe Bill was left out as an oversight please stop see but it because it wasn’t an oversight it wasn’t necessarily part of like you’re just putting together a real to promote the Super Bowl like audio thing she’s putting pictures to the audio I made and you’re using
Highlights like highlights generally don’t you know also if they could talk to her for 3 minutes they would know it wasn’t at all planned like Canadians fan for crying there you go her identity that two second shot of Bill like on the sidelines like that
Would have done it for him oh there it is great all right I feel you know and I mean and and In fairness like like you said we showed the the SN the safety snap which like in the thing we talk about so now I’m like worried people are
Going to listen to him be like oh you only had like 40 seven seconds of mentioning bill belich that’s not enough you need more like otherwise you were scrubbing It Like Mike you might want to do it again just go back through and like just insert Bill back to the dra
What I wouldn’t given what I wouldn’t have given to have Bill belich sit down and do it with me like come on literally though let’s let’s do another podcast bichi the early years just all Bill oh man I’m I’m excited to see how people are going to react to this because it
Seems like they’re not going to accept any of it so that’s just the trailer could be we go back to the first time Bill bich gave gave Paul that work no because like when you do these things you know for example pole who’s one of many that you it’s an extensive
Interview like you’re trying to cover while you have them on the phone a lot of stuff so that you don’t have to have multiple phone calls yeah Bill wasn’t going to do that no way you know 45 to 50 minutes with each of these people
Right yeah I mean we and then we did pull um you know this year bill um just happened to mention in one of his pressers how Brady and 03 he felt like really arrived and you know was like pull that like you know anything we can
Get of Bill we did it in the first one too you know it’s we can’t get him directly but anytime we had sound it he had said that we thought worked we you know of course try to put it in so I don’t know people are so we apologize
For you know the people who were offended because obviously there were a lot of you CU I did hear from a lot of you yesterday yeah same type of people all right um let’s get back to uh more pertinent issues um do we have any yeah
No I mean what’s the latest Evan I know you’re you’re keeping track um on OC or DC interviews oh yeah yeah me and Deuce you know we’re a tag team in this one uh to stay up to date and uh right now it’s honestly very quiet uh there’s not a
Whole lot of uh of interviews leaking at the moment so the only available office they don’t need to leak now just ask gerro he’ll tell you yeah right maybe I should just go down the hall and ask uh the only available uh offensive coordinator candidates that we know they’ve interviewed are Zack Robinson
And Nick kayy uh because they did interview Shan walren but he took the Bear’s job and um they were going to interview Dan pitcher but he got promoted internally with with the Bengals so uh those are the only two guys as of right now that are we know
For a fact that they’re interested in obviously Josh McDaniels is kind of lurking you know in the in the background depending on what Bill does there was a rumor today I think shefer it was speculation he made it clear it’s speculation it’s not based on anything
But when he speculates it’s kind of you know like when Ree specul ulates there’s probably something there that bill and maybe others might be waiting for the Chiefs to see what happens because Reed might you know retire if they win it really yeah oh I didn’t see that so he
Thinks that bill would want to take a run at the chief’s job if it comes available if it became available I did not see and the chief would obviously would have to be mutual but yeah yeah that do I didn’t see that rumor that’s a shter uh speculation imag Patrick
Mahomes and see do you think he can get 17 points for us can we win this game 17 13 hand it off um I do think though this bill thing is maybe holding up some of the Patriots staff stuff I mean I know that there are some guys who maybe are
In limbo belich kids being probably at the Forefront but if I was gerro the head coach of the New England Patriots I would say I need a decision now yeah I think those are the only two as well that’s you know I can’t wait I need to start filling my staff you’re either
With me or you’re out and that’s it I wouldn’t wait I wouldn’t give them I I know he’s probably being a good guy giving letting them you know wait but I wouldn’t allow them to and I do think there’s a chance um you know Evan and I
Talked about this on Tuesday that that you know if it’s Covington there’s less urgency for those guys on defense because I think you you feel like it’s going to be Covington and if Steve and Brian you probably have ideas of how they’re going to factor in so then yeah
You know and I think ree had the thing about the assistant head coach advisor kind of thing for Steve so the the more urgency to me is is offensively and I am a little concerned now do we know um I I know I’ve I’ve read a couple of places
That Waldren did in fact interview and I also I also saw someone that said that he canceled his interview oh because he had gone and I think that’s what happened with uh pitcher pitcher canceled yeah so and I’ve also read um I think I read the herald this morning
That said that they both interviewed and I didn’t think that that was accurate but one of them did did interview and one of them didn’t I was under the impression that that the first one did had interviewed it but got through the cracks we didn’t really have it reported
Initially and so I don’t know it’s I’m a little um I’m a little concerned about the offensive side of things because I feel like there were a there’s a lot of movement around the league offensive coordinator wise and I feel like I mean I’m not trying to be overly negative but
This isn’t really an overly attractive job did uh Zach Robinson um he’s still out there he’s still out there he supposedly he did come in he uh well I don’t know if he came in or if he was Zoom but he interviewed but I’m wondering if they waiting to hire the OC
And the O let have the OC have latitude in hiring his own staff yeah yeah you know I would hope I mean yeah I think that I think there’s a chance that it could be Robinson and Kaylee yeah if you if you went that direction yeah I mean
I’m with Paul on this I this how we started catch22 I I I don’t want to be alarmist but like I am worried about the offensive coordinator position CU it’s not an attractive job like you are building from the studs on that side of theall but in that way you can’t lose
You can only go up so but you can lose what you can lose because if it goes belly up then it’s you and and you’re not getting another chance no but it can’t get worse than it was you were the lowest team in terms of points scor no I
Understand that but if you like if you take that job it’s highrisk high reward like if you if it were if you go in and you take the 32nd ranked offense with a rookie quarterback and all of a sudden you Bobby slowick right and you you’re going to be in line
For head coaching jobs not but if it’s really bad and you’re out of a job in two years you’re not going to be very attractive it’s got to be really bad because let’s let’s face it again starting at the bottom you’ve got a top three pick all you have to do
Is show Improvement yeah but what if you don’t I I I can’t find I I think that even if Bill O’Brian stayed he would have it would be improved right I think I think Bill O’Brien felt that this last year was a a blemish on his
Res I think he felt like it was hurting his stock it might this that’s why he left yeah this no that’s not why he left that’s why he left I think he I think he might have also thought maybe he should have been considered for a head coach
And I think well that might be he didn’t want any part of running that offense and I don’t and again I don’t know anything you know kind of do but like the whole leaking you know Gerard had a felt he had a you know clear the air and
Go on and explain what’s m what if Gerard thinks that was Bill O’Brien that ain’t going to work anymore yeah if you want to say it was Mutual I wouldn’t necessarily disagree with that I’m just telling you that I pretty certain that Billy o wanted out yeah well sometimes
You know you want out when you know it yeah he wanted out long before the change was made okay I just I look at this job and yes you can make the blank canvas argument it’s yours it’s your it’s your oyster make it happen right but but at the same time you’re you’re
Really hitching Your Wagon to a rookie quarterback and that quarterback being good one that you had in put in selecting sure but if it goes po like if you’re Zack Robinson Zack Robinson is on the track to be a head coach in the NFL if he comes to the Patriots and they
Have a terrible season on offense now all of a sudden his whole career just get what happened about betting on yourself and being confident in your own ability yeah some guys do it yeah some guys those are the guys I want if you’re afraid of this job I don’t want you
Anyway well that’s thep so that’s great you can you can hitch up your Brites and be all Mr tough guy and you’re looking for an offensive coord afid of because evidently there were a handful of guys around the league that were afraid of trying to build this
Offense and I would give the the one example I know I know you hate the Bengals yeah but but I’m speculating with fact like Brian Callahan going from an offensive coordinator where he doesn’t call the plays in Cincinnati and getting a head coaching job told what’s the guy’s name Dan PCH Dan pitcher
That I can stay right here and be the offensive coordinator with with talent and I will be in line for for a head coaching job a couple years down the road to call job but a guy who’s never or I can go to the Patriots and inherit
The 32nd ranked offense under the guise of it has to get better when it just got worse after 22 yeah when everybody said it has to get better including me yeah you’re you’re going to come in you’re going to be able to build it in the way
You want we all know why curious what’s the answer to thatp because of the quarterback oh and because of the talent oh right okay but now you’re going to be involved in building it from scratch so let’s go you believe in yourself do you believe in your
Judgment I don’t know do you believe in any one of these quarterbacks do you think Bill O’Brien knows what he’s doing uh yeah do you think he believes in himself yep like I you could be the best coach in the world if you if it doesn’t work
It doesn’t work but it’s going to be a reflection on you but why didn’t it work I think there were a myriad of reasons why it didn’t work why why it didn’t work because they didn’t have a good staff number one okay you know around Billy O’Brien they didn’t have a
Good quarterback they don’t have good players all things that are existing right now they don’t have any of those you’re going to build your own staff you’re going to have the top three pick and you’re going to have input in the draft for for your players how do you
Know you’re get to build your own staff like why are you making these blanket assumptions and the head coach just said they got money to burn Gerard Mayo is is going to be building his own staff how do you know that the head coach Zack Robinson is the head coach just said we
Got money to burn we’re going to be bringing in Talent so you know so like like 2021 I want a guy who believes in himself and wants to build an offense because all the pieces are going to be it sounds great on a little like slogan
Yeah I want a guy who wants to bet on him himself that’s great but what if you can’t get a guy like that well who who’s not like that in the NFL really I I just gave you two examples and and you Shane Waldren and yeah pitcher know why
I the position you played I can’t remember his first name just you know we know you’ve had a few of those I think all the elements will be here to succeed I think that’s a crazy assumption why cuz they haven’t had all the elements to succeed in like
Five years but now all this is the year they’re going to have now they have the so this is gets back to the why the why is because Bill bich is gone all right so in your case so no team can ever get better in offense of course you can get
Better and and but if I have my choice between the five or six other openings in this one I’m going to take one of the five or six others they’re better that’s all I’m saying well because you’re saying they’re more readymade they’re more ready to succeed right I’m not
Telling you that nobody will take this job someone will be the offensive coordin saying not as much work involved at these other places no they have better ex they have better scenarios for you to succeed why because they have better players I just said they have they’re more ready made it’s it’s
They’re closer to the top than this team is right now right well yeah every team is okay that’s exactly my point you so I don’t know why I don’t know why you hold that against the person I don’t want that guy I don’t want the guy who looks
At Tennessee and and wants to be the head coach there instead of patriot I and I don’t want anyone that looks at this job and pees down their leg so you know okay well that’s what you’re going to get stuck with no we’re not this is
We’re not EV and I have we’re not going to get stuck with with a guy that down his leg you’re going to get stuck with whoever doesn’t get the other jobs that’s what the fear for Ev and I is we’ll see or retreads like McDaniels or
Well yeah which would be I think the worst of all of these possib a guy like Kell Moore who could you like isn’t exactly the hottest candidate tell more I would take just because it’s different but McDaniels to me would be the worst possible solution to all you’re going to
Get you know it’s a game of musical chairs and you’re going to be left with whatever the scraps are yeah that’s what I’m worried about like I I would hope that you end up being right and whoever ends up taking the job does do a Bobby slck and takes over a terrible offense
He maybe didn’t have any other options with his Richie Cunningham looks and he knocks it out of the park with CJ stri I hope that’s what I would hope I hope that whoever they want they really want when they interview they don’t let him out of the building they make him an
Offer that he can’t refuse yeah and I’m not saying that this is not necessarily the case but when when uh Deo Ryan got the job in Houston he knew who like the guys he was taking with him were right now he came from someplace else so it’s
Different right but he knew that he was taking Bobby slowick with him from San Francisco and they were you know Bobby SLO is going to be the offensive coordinator so on and so forth he was going to you know dem Ryan’s calls the plays and runs the defense himself so he
Knew all like the one thing that I with the the weight here that we have that’s going on is what was the plan like who who is Gerard Mayo’s number one offensive coordinator Target and if it was maybe it was Shane Waldren and and and he ends up taking the Bears
Job like to your point why why you know why why did we not aggressively if they if they really liked him right Jane wal Zack Robinson whoever it but fear because they not necessarily have their Ducks completely in a row because a lot of these guys take jobs and
Immediately know who their first call is to run the whichever side of the ball is not their side of the ball yeah and I right now I I I look at it and I say I don’t I don’t know if he knew who his first call was yeah that could be true
Maybe it was Josh but I mean that’s I think speaks to what Mayo what his disadvantage is he hasn’t been a lot of places he a l ofon was here ni K was here leaves he brings a bunch of people with him when anybody leaves they us and
That’s why I feel like Josh might have been his guy because Josh is a head coach of the offense that’s somebody that can come in and run that side of the ball hire his own people do the whole thing you know Josh McDaniels comes back so does Nick Kayley so does
Bohart agree so you know all of a sudden you’re you have a staff Mard yeah on that side of the ball uh you know cam K Brill already took the Giants job so he he’s not available but I’m sure he has somebody else you know maybe Cole papovich comes back does that excite
People or am I the only one that’s no it doesn’t not wanting that to happen Josh no I think what was exciting to me was the Rams guys and you know starting to just like let’s let’s get a new offense in here we’ve had two offensive coordinators over the last you know not
Counting the M Patricia I mean over the last 20 years you have two guys basically running the same offense for the most part I I you know but I think I think evans’s question is a go who is your main guy if it was Shane Waldren
Why didn’t she get him you know was it a money thing or was it just strictly an opportunity he saw that one as better than this one um and if that’s the case then you should have upped your auntie a little bit I mean it could have be as
Simp or or is it you know like is there someone out there that they just haven’t got to yet because there’s four teams still left in and there’s something they want to pluck somebody they want to pluck from one of those four teams and all everything else is just a sherad
Right now they’re just gathering information but the guy they really want exists on a team that’s still in the playoffs I hope you’re right that’s the optimistic I hope that that that’s the case I just I I my fear is that guys like Zack Robinson who’s probably the one of the
Hottest offensive coordinator names on the market right now is probably looking at the Patriots job and saying no thanks because there’s just better jobs there’s just better jobs well I mean just look at walr I mean he’s he’s going to a team that has the first overall we have
Patriot PL you got you got Tavolino you got skip Jacks Davos you got all those restaurants up thereit top guys yeah Top Golf Not Top Golf down the road what’s wrong with that see I was also getting some some recent feedback that you and I haven’t been arguing enough lately oh
There you go oh there you go a lot so we gave we gave you what want by the way we were told to do that bill bill bich called us and said I want you to argue Bill said I want did I want more turmoil
Yeah we were told to do that no but I I I think that um like sort of and I know that you’re being tugg and cheek a little bit like I don’t hold it against Zack Robinson if he feels the way Evan just said like I
Have a choice between you know just say for argument sake going with Jim Harbaugh for and being the Chargers offensive coordinator or going to the Patriots I don’t hold it against the guy who says I think I can work with Justin Herbert yeah right that’s my point to me
That’s not a sign of weakness there’s just better jobs like there’s just better jobs and I I the one it’s Fred’s pitch right It’s let’s say that Zack Robinson just use him as the example Zack Robinson has an affinity for Jaden Daniels like he’s just he’s getting
Ready for the draft and he looks at Jaden Daniels and he’s like that’s that guy’s going to be a star that’s what you have to hope for that’s what you have to hope for and I think that in in Chicago either Shane waler is sold on Justin
Fields or he’s sold on Caleb Williams I don’t we’ll find out in three months which one it is but one of those two guys is he’s he’s like I can do it with this guy yeah I wonder like you know it’s complic but I wonder like if either
Matt grow or Elliot wolf already know the quarterback they’re going to take at three and you bring in the O prospective OC and you say who do you like and he doesn’t like who you know you’re going to pick and it’s like well you’re out
Cross him off the list yeah I yeah I don’t know I don’t know that’s plausible that they talk about that you think they already know that kind of stuff though at this point I don’t know I just it seems like the quarterback a specific quarterback I I do I would hope so not
Whether or not they’re taking him at three but I think that I think out of the quarterback class they have to know which one they like the best I mean you know I guess the comp combine is important uh I think the SI I think Drake May is goingon to play
In the Senior Bowl no oh he’s not no penck and B pen and boat yeah so and what are you waiting for you know I I think you’ve got you know I guess there might be some Medicals that you want to talk about certainly with the guy you
Know um yeah you got in the one-on-one interview in hand hand size wrist size size wrist size big receivers big that’s why I didn’t make it you can’t have small gloves ask bra pry you know small hands yeah can’t play in the rain I would have been the
Darling of the combine oh why you have big hands big hands really Alex cripping a basketball almost wow like man could pal a basketball oh the the you know what they say about you know you know what they say about I can I can p on I can p on
Women you know what they say about women with big hands big gloves big feet I don’t know I don’t know what they say big something that could get you in trouble all right moving on had to break up the hand talk 855 P 500 is the Ace
Tiet hotline web radio at patriot.com is the email address uh we’ll do picks later oh yeah so we kind of have to hurry even though there’s only two games Fred’s very excited to do the picks have you noticed Alex pretended she was in a traffic jam today not pretend to avoid
Having to do picks I sat with my car off on the Mass Turnpike today for a full hour du said hey if you got to if you got to pull UI do what you got to do but then Paul tweeted at me and I said oh I’m going to push
Through p on the PIP was a big accident so little jackn on the Sant a tractor trailer truck jacknifed carrying Lumber so it was just 2x4s they shut down the whole Pike today and I was like 10 minutes into my commute to work and you know the pike cuz there’s like 10 miles
Between some of those exits so it’s you got knowwhere to go I told dud someone was expecting a delivery to build their house today and they’re going to be significantly delay got the 50° weather know perfect wet that stinks all right everyone’s okay thanks for toughing it out Alex we
Appreciate that we too thanks for allowing me to shame you to work should we go to the calls start getting the listeners involved here mix mix it up a little bit um oh we didn’t even get to the news what’s the news Patriot sign Michael
Jordan oh yeah on big did you know did you know that people made you know there was some memes that were going around about this like how many how many memes are we we all I did not know that there were memes going around cuz I know we created one
Um and I got emails that why isn’t bill in that Mee right Phil Jackson would have been go so why wasn’t it just goats right Phil Jackson would have been there all the comments were like wow the new social team’s popping off it’s like just Su actually yeah um yeah so I’m making
Fun of you anyone that yeah is you know on us I’m making fun of you all right uh so let’s start with Josh and Dallas hey Josh hey everyone uh I don’t want to be nitpicky but on Tuesday when you were referring to the gerro Mayo quote you uh
You guys were just talking about how he said that they were going to draft at the most important position but the actual quote was that they’re going to draft the best player for a position that’s very important and I feel like that still lean’s quarterback but to me
It could also just be like a tongue and cheek way of saying the holes are obvious quarterback receiver and tackle and so whoever the best player at one of those important positions is there that’s who we’re going to take you’re right you’re right about what he said
But I I would disagree about your characterization of those three positions I don’t think wide receiver ascends anywhere near the other two but like Josh said said he could have been doing it tongue and Chic oh I totally think he did yeah cuz I totally I totally agree with Josh yeah yeah
Compared to like maybe guard or knows you know right I think so they’re not going to draft a guard from Chattanooga again in the first round is that what you’re telling us that’s that’s not hopefully not yeah so he did he has mentioned quarterback receiver tackle a
Couple times in some of these interviews so the whether he feels that way the front office feels someone’s feeling that way in the organization that’s you know on D Mayo’s side that uh those are the three biggest needs which I don’t think anybody would argue with so look
At the death chart it’s obvious I mean yeah you know not that tight end is the third overall need but that’s a that’s a big I would say tight end is every bit as big of a need except for you don’t take a tight end like thanks for the
Call Josh unless he’s a you know generational Talent like Kyle Pitts no no there’s a better that’s what he was there was a better it’s just not that important there’s a better one in this yeah um KY pits KY pit is a really good really good receiver Prospect but he was
Always like a jumbo receiver you know he wasn’t like a hand in the dirt block and I know he got hurt I got yelled at for making fun of him yesterday on my show you like you like to give you some Kyle Pitts that he’s one of your faves Kyle
Pittz is one of those players that like if he gets with the right in the right system with the right coordinator and all like I think that his issues are not talent I think his issues where that Arthur Smith was not using him I would agree with that even though I was
Critical of yesterday uh how about I may have had him on my fantasy team oh there he is Eldred in North Carolina what’s up Eldred hey Alex fellas how y’all doing good another one every time she every time he calls him he has to talk to the
Women everybody heite he says ignore the rest of us Nei that you’re saying lady sounds weird Alex I appreciate it you’re good you’re good you dress the lady in the room first then the fell it’s a gentleman some I would I wouldn’t know about class gentlem right
There what’s up biggy hello yeah we’re here no okay okay yeah I lost cuz I crank the car up okay but uh my question is about the office foret I feel like y’all do I’m kind of antsy but could it also be that he’s a rookie coach too and
A lot maybe some people don’t want him besides the cover uh you know it’s bear here you know yeah so you think that might be at off I could be but I I think that’s an advantage because I think the off OC is going to have more autonomy
Because he’s a rookie coach the rookie coach is going to have to lean or should be leaning on his coordinators you know yeah and I think that’s part of the appeal if there’s any appeal for Josh it’s the experience Factor yeah right like he’s coordinated in offense before
He’s head coached teams before so he knows you know how to do that those types of things I think you know Kell Moore is now starting the Eagles the Browns other teams are starting to interview Kellen Moore um now that Harbaugh and the Char another guy that’s coordinated an offense before that’s
Called plays before we’re not doing all new everywhere and I think that that is a factor plus Josh can fix Mac uh Marvin says that ESPN just said that the Panthers hire Buccaneers Dave Canal that’s correct yeah oh he’s got the head coaching job with Carolina yeah yeah yeah I
Heard as they said in Rocky I wish him well yes sir hey EV no I do not from the guys from from the people up here pan stadium and my friends up in North Carolina they also Tar Hill they say if you draft Drake going to be sorry that you ever did oh
And for the years they’ve been watching them and like like I said we watch him you watch a couple film strip we watch him here and like like I said that’s that’s another Zack wils okay all right alred we’ll see Eldred down on Drake may you have film
Strips of the guys like remember those but no way you had film strips in school projectors Maybe but I did tell you about my my storage problem on my computer that I I have so many Clips all of of film that like I I need a external hard drive you need the
Cloud you need a storage cloud storage area you know you need clean out some of that iCloud to to him it is you mean joal pancaking people right that’s what you mean yeah well to each his own what whatever float your boat Jess Jess Jess get in here Jo all did
You see this did you see this watch the hand placement God you see this you’re right all right he’s done with joal he goes and takes a shower kick post he probably doesn’t want J to see how excited he gets realistic kick step kick step Punch Yeah I know when I watched
Joal I did take a shower afterwards I was like my goodness uh neck is in Australia hey Nick o hey guys how are you hey good really upset Coco golf lost this morning oh just want to say quickly that uh Evan uh I really appreciate your film study and
Breakdown you’ve really made it easy for someone like me to understand a little bit more I think the job you do is is phenomenal so great hire by Fred um but we do get Josh McDaniels which hopefully we don’t um which quarterbacks F he scheme the best out of the three is it
One in particular or all three of them McDaniels it’s McDaniels I mean this is the reason why back is the reason why I’ve been talking myself into Drake May because I think if you’re if you’re going to go um with a more of that like traditional like we need somebody that’s
Going to be inst structure uh that that’s a that’s him you know that Drake May is is in my opinion the best instructure quarterback in this class like Matt Jones was yeah but with bigger taller better arm strength you know like a guy that uh a more toolsy Mac Jones
Okay um and if that’s does go ahead does these system do still is it is it a bit outdated Josh MCD system or is it still something that holds up because I don’t know I didn’t watch a lot of uh Raiders games but I don’t know what if the
Offense was down this year but as the he it was down until the new guy came in pretty good then they started playing well I I think that you know there’s a good a deeper conversation about like the difference between like system and and scheme right like scheme is like
Your play designs and I think that what the Patriots used to do offensively schem ically is still sound and can still work in the NFL my concerns are more about the system side of things of how they’re getting in and out of plays the control at the line of scrimmage on
The quarterback the adjustments on the routes I think there’s a lot of information that gets thrown at players in this offense and I think it it it can be difficult for players that are coming from these college systems especially that are nowhere near as complex and now they’re getting put into these NFL
Systems like the McDaniels offense and then all of a sudden quarterback especially there’s just so much on your plate and and I feel like some for some of those guys that’s it’s a difficult adjustment to make thanks Nick appreciate the call uh L from Wisconsin writes in when talking about having a
Head coach of the offense Evan said that Josh McDaniels might be someone they’re looking at because he quote would have a staff and knows how to be a head coach so he could run that side of the ball I would just argue that Josh in fact does
Not know how to be a head coach well that but he’s not the actual head coach he’s just just the offense he knows but I just I mean I think most of us are on the same page of like just running it back with that same old offense and you
Know it’s it’s that’s a concern for me and and In fairness I I know like the Raiders stuff like they didn’t have any offense with or without the the Raiders lack of offense it’s not like they started lighting it up with Aiden oconnell down the stretch they won some
Games but it wasn’t because they were suddenly putting you know 40 points on the board every game you know they they want some low-scoring games to and I don’t think it was all McDaniel’s fault their defense their defense definitely turn it up I told you was standing right there I
Mean Evan got up and went got himself something I’m GNA pass out we can order up a yeah you want to do something like that we can do that all right uh we got to take a break cuz Paul’s food’s here uh Bridgestone is the official Tire of
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Caught a touchdown pass where there is an iconic photo of him smiling while making the catch it was a touchdown do you know that one no that was 12 you’ve definitely seen the picture that’s a different story uh all right these two questions are Faith questions so I hope
They’re correct um in a 2010 game against the Dolphins the Patriots set a new league record by coming the by becoming the first team to accomplish which feat all right wow that’s a that’s a good one that’s a hard one and number Patriots Hall of Fame website okay there
You go and um question three Julian Edelman became the second Patriots wide receiver to win a Super Bowl MVP honors in Super Bowl 53 how many receiving yards did Edelman have in the Super Bowl all right I would have asked that before well that might have that’s a deep cut a
Pu halftime show deep cut see if anyone remembers all right so we’re going to run it back like we did the other day we’re going to do some start bench cuts um and so first Faith start bench cut Arrowhead Stadium mbn Bank Stadium in Ford Field so I’m going to approach this
Question like play play off scenario like you’re hosting a playoff game What atmosphere you want to be in first of all I think all three of these stadiums do they do home field advantage right like they make it hard for opposing teams um I feel like I like in terms of
This season I feel like I should start Ford Field simply because of how much has like gone into this all right like if you’re talking about like this season I just feel like there’s so much passion and excitement around it like I’m in on the lion story so I’m going to start
Ford Field which is I think in other years probably not would have been would been the case but we’re going to start Ford Field Arrowhead is like I’ve been told I’ve never been to Arrowhead I’ve been told it’s like should be the top of everyone’s bucket list but also mbnt
Bank Stadium they’ve got like the marching band like it’s like a college football environment so I’m going to have probably a hot take and put the Raven Stadium as my bench and then I’m going to cut Arrowhead okay interesting so I like what you did with fordfield yeah but you can’t start him
Cuz everybody in that stadium has never witnessed a playoff game more or less that’s true so I’m going I’m actually going in the order is Arrowhead okay uh the Raven stadium and fordfield and honestly for fordfield it reminds me of the Lions losing on Thanksgiving that’s
All I can think about so maybe they’ll become a juggernaut for a couple years but that’s fair that’s how I’m going to do it all right number two CD lamb AJ Brown Tyreek Hill um I feel like you’d be a little crazy to not start Tyreek Hill in this
Situation just because of how versatile he is I think he’s one of the most dangerous players in the league yep um I think cidi is unfortunately a product of his environment to some extent like he can only hit such a ceiling because the rest of the team can’t seem to get
Further like he’s an outstanding player but I think he’s one of those like stars that’s kind of stuck in the Cowboys curse yep so I’m going to go benching AJ Brown I’m I’m going do the same thing AJ Brown did it in the Super Bowl yeah should have should have been Patriot
That’s a different story well yeah all right now we’re we’re gonna leave football all right we’re gonna leave football crazy all right foot FaceTime phone call or text I’m such a fan of FaceTime like I even if it’s just like like my best friend from home she’ll
FaceTime me in the morning and we’ll just be like getting ready together talking about our day like face time’s the best FaceTime but then I’m going to go text and I’m going to bench phone calls reason phone calls are like stressful to me that’s why I can never
Do sales cuz I I don’t even like talking to my friends on the phone it’s awful I get my my desk phone goes off and I don’t even want to answer it I’m like don’t touch that I’m a big person if somebody calls me and I I like I send it
To voicemail and then I’ll text them yes and that would be a red flag for me but it is what it is all right Marvel Star Wars Harry Potter was a good one and recenty bu might kick in yeah true I I’m such a Marvel fan so I have to start
Marvel um I actually as of recently watched all of the Harry Potter movies I had only seen like basically like those moments you would see like on Tik Tok or Instagram like from Harry Potter movies I really had and watch them um so recency bias and the fact that I really
Enjoyed them I’m going to bench Harry Potter and I am going to cut Star Wars cuz I haven’t made it through all the that’s that’s fi that’s tough I’m starting Star Wars I’m benching Marvel and cutting Harry Potter but Marvel is on my my list right now because it’s
Been awful oh I have not been watching the news bad so and I know Matt’s going to hate that for me but he’s going to hate me for cutting Star Wars that’s true but it is what it is people and then we’ll we’ll finish off with this one it’s it’s
It’s supposed to be winter I it’s even though it’s 55 degrees today yeah um skiing snowboarding ice skating so I have never skied or snowboarded but I put this question in here for you cuz I knew you would have more opinion but I think let’s just going to we’re going to
Go on the premise that if I was to try those other two activities I’ve ice skated before I think I would start skiing I’d probably bench ice skating and probably cut snowboarding only because I’m really bad at like wakeboarding and I’m assuming to some extent maybe those skills are just not
Going to translate so all right I don’t know I’m starting snowboarding the oppos obviously benching ice skating and I’m cutting ski I I they all think they’re better than you and there there it’s it I’m like get crucified for this you look like a herb if you’re skied there’s like
It’s very it’s very hard to look cool while skiing and I’ll leave my DMs off so I don’t get attacked by the tur social media exactly um all right that was a fun one Faith thanks for these these start bench cuts and um let’s get back to the half time show or the
Regular Show when someone accidentally threw away the school play costumes oh no Replacements were shipped with Fe fex and with picture proof of delivery everyone could focus on the perfect opening night FedEx where now meets next for residential delivery only and now Great Moments in history I’m I I’m really embarrassed
About this it’s an embarrassing moment very embarrassing so I’m at fun story I’m at the party with my wife and this is before everybody got their ring so it’s still early okay people are still arriving and I’m standing kind of in a middle area where you know as people go
By and talk Jonathan Craft and people we work with and Tom comes in with Jazelle that would be Tom Brady Tom Brady okay well with Jazelle kind of is the giveaway but anyway um so I said hey Tom how you doing and I stuck my hand out
For a handshake uhhuh and he came in for the hug he came in hot came he came in really hot really hot so hot that I kissed him on the cheek wow going for it went in for the hug and Fred did the George cassand inappropriate the moment I did it I’m
Like oh what did I just do did he react to it he’s so tall I don’t know that’s another great moment from all right back hair and Patriots unfiltered 855 Pats 500 is the Ace Ticket hotline uh but also the divisional championships are here so
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Trivia at halftime in a win over the Buffalo Bills in 2012 which Patriots wide receiver caught a touchdown pass where there is an iconic photo of him smiling making the catch and I remember that photo well Brandon Lloyd that’s correct Brandon Lloyd the winner is Adrien Lopez congratulations I believe
That was a picture that we nominated for the NFL’s best pitchers of the year and now my food comes uh in a 2010 game against the Dolphins good enough du the Patriots set a new league record by becoming the first team to accomplish which feat 20 what 2010 game against the
Dolphins they returned a blocked field goal for a touchdown a blocked punt for a touchdown you’re on the right interception for a touchdown the same game they scored in five different ways okay that was close enough um uh let’s see they scored a rushing touchdown Ben Jarvis Green Ellis a receiving touchdown
Danny Woodhead a kickoff return for a touchdown Brandon Tate a block field goal returned for a touchdown Kyle Arrington and an interception return for a touchdown who did that nink no Patrick Chung Patrick Chung is correct Paul uh no winner nobody got that one that’s tough and finally Julian Edelman became
The second Patriots receiver to win a Super Bowl MVP honors in Super Bowl 53 how many receiving yards did Edelman have in that game 137 close but no cigar 142 no 141 oh I knew it was right around Oka Wan uh got that one so congratulations there I would have been
Eliminated on that because I would have answered Dion Branch yeah right based on the way the question started yeah he was the second wide receiver to win Super Bowl MVP I thought who was the first was going to be the question that was my
Head so I would have been out who do you think had a better Super Bowl Deon Branch kind of comparable I don’t know I I’d say Edelman because it came harder yeah what no I mean it was a tougher game what he did came he had to work
Harder for it I just please don’t do that to me I always felt like some of those catches that Dion Branch made I don’t know how he held on to them like he was just so sure-handed and absorbing contact I could make an argument either
Way I I just feel like there was more offense in the and I thought Branch could have won the MVP in the Carolina one as well um I think they got it right I think I would have gone 82 cuz you know me I have a biased you know for the
For the quarterback but um that’s a that’s a good question I think Branch was more more impressive but definitely make an argument either way I think the catches were tougher but Julian Edelman was uncoverable and like the the routes that he was running just the separation
He you could give him more points for really being the entirety of the offense yeah until until the fourth quarter when grank took over yeah I remember when they were celebrating and Matthew Slater came up to him and was like did you win MVP and he was like yeah and like
Matthew like everybody kind of knew that he was like you know SL was like you were kind of you were kind of our entire offense today so I imagine you probably won MVP SL was upset because he didn’t have any like proper name to call Julian like Julian’s his name Julian you know
How he just refuses call anybody by the name that they go by it has to be his maybe he added his middle name or something yeah it was like J the JC Jackson he called Gerald this year I think he called uh Hoyer Axel yeah yeah always got a nickname for everybody hey
Did you see um that grank stole your joke he uh my joke yeah they did it the social media thing um it was we’re professional athletes and one of gronks was we’re professional ath we’re what is it retired we’re former professional athletes of course we’re going to make a
Joke about C CTE when we can’t remember something and I was like hey that’s that’s Paul’s joke that is true they were good they were funny that was funny part two they could put some clothes on like they’re they’re they trapping hardcore to maintain some relevancy but all right obviously worked on
You cly not that was not what I was thinking the phone lines are lit up like a Christmas tree um so let’s get to that uh we’ll start with Nathan in Ohio what’s up Nathan hey how’s it going guys hey um I just want to say uh thank you
To Evan CU he’s the one who got me into podcast listening in the first place along with Bart on Patriot beat so I would have never discovered you guys without him thank you thank you a lot of compliments today I’m flattered and uh for my question I want
To say um would you guys entertain the Patriots doing something like taking a quarterback at three and then moving up like the Texon did to like five or six giving up future Capital to get a tackle that way you get two positions solidified for the future well so the
Texans had the 12th overall pick in the draft from a previous trade so when these things have like get thrown out there we have to remember the Texans didn’t trade up from 34 to to 5 they traded up from 12 to 5 so it it’s it’s a much different different
Situation all right does that answer your question yeah I appreciate it okay thanks Nathan I I mean I would just say generally and I think this will be like a topic we talk about it like like pushing all the chips into the middle of the table this year it doesn’t really
See the year to do that like yeah you need your picks you need to hit them you need to you know not just like let’s just get two guys and we’ll be back on track like I I think you need all these draft picks and if anything I and I am
Intrigued by that that you know and I hate trading down but I think in a year like this it might make some sense but I think Evan did a good job of sort of explaining I think there’s this notion that if you trade down from three that’s going to let you take like
Three guys in the first round like no you’re going to switch spots with whoever you trade with and probably add like a depending on how far the team goes you know you’ll probably add like a future one or future two you know if if it’s just a little move you know you’re
Going from three to six you’re probably adding a second round pick and maybe a future second round pick or something like that yeah which is which sounds great to me no no that I’m not telling you I wouldn’t do it but I think that that way you can get uh instead of
Getting Jaden Daniels you can get Marvin Harrison Jr and Joe Al like it’s it’s not going to work that way you’re not going to get two top 10 picks out of right because I I and not to pick on the caller but no I’m not picking the callor
I think people for the the Texans had the Browns pick last year because of the deshun Watson trade so they had the 12th they had the the second overall pick and the 12th overall pick so they traded up from 12 which is a much different conversation than trading up from 34 so
Like Paul is saying you can’t do you’re not going to get both of those things and but you can still make a good trade I’m not telling you like what forget the trade down no you could still make a good trade and if you’re not sold on one
Of these quarterbacks then it actually makes sense to trade down and talked about this a little on Tuesday yeah the further you go down the quarterback tree the the less the quarterback generally is but there’s that’s not necessarily the case at tackle and it’s definitely not the case
At wide receiver now you might have a special one in Harrison this year and I’ll grant you that he might be a little bit different but there are a lot of good wide receivers taken as you go down the list like the third fourth fifth wide receiver is a lot better than the
Third fourth with a fifth quarterback especially a lot better and this class is loaded and we were talking about this on Catch 22 and and you look really around the the playoffs this year and this was one of those years where the the the diva Bonafide number one wide
Receiver really wasn’t what carried teams you know you look at teams like Detroit that those guys are all day two picks Le Porta Monro St Brown uh you look at the Niners like Brandon auk is their highest drafted pick in house and he was like late first round not not a
Top 10 type of guy so there there’s definitely a lot of evidence right now that you can build it a different way without you know being Joe burrow and Jamar Chase or Patrick Mahomes and Tyreek Hill and you know the poster boy for oh you can’t draft a you know
Receiver without having you know the pieces around him is Garrett Wilson yeah but the Jets thought they were going to have Aaron Rogers throwing to him that’s not when they drafted him they thought they Zack Wilson but if they had if if Rogers had been the quarterback that
Would have been a great pick yeah when they picked him you know like no but what I’m saying is they picked him with Zack Wilson I understand that but they thought Zack Wilson was going to be good he wasn’t then they got Aaron Rodgers we wouldn’t be talking about Garrett Wilson
Being a bad pick if Aaron rers I don’t think Garrett Wilson was a bad pick I’m saying that’s an example of you knocked it out of the park and it doesn’t help you win unless you have a correct guy to throw to him right I’m not telling you
Don’t don’t take saying if you take Marvin Harrison now and you don’t get the quarterback till next year all of a sudden Marvin Harrison becomes a good pick you know yeah and then the the argument against it is if you waste a year of that then you end up getting into the
High price category if he hit like I don’t think you could do any better with a pick as Garrett Wilson I think he had two really really good years yeah offensive rookie of the year so now if you’re the Jets and you get Rogers next year and so now you have your
Quarterback right so now that’s three years in he continues to be really good now do you have 120 million to pay him well that’s cuz that’s coming right like you you you’re going to pick up his 50 year option that’s only going to piss him off you know how the receivers are
You know how those receivers are Mike especially Stefan dicks right you watched him drop that bomb the other day I didn’t know who was more excited I told you you that’s a real thing that’s a real thing Stefan digs that guy is trying to get his one way ticket to
Dallas but I do think think that that that’s like part of the at that position that’s got to be part of your thinking those guys are high priced they try to clean it up they measure themselves against other receivers by the the the check the paycheck that’s
What it that’s respect for for that position is how much you paying me yep I would also say though that there is an the flip side of that is that it’s cost control to drafted right so like you know where if I have a great if I have a
Great quarterback I’m fine with the cost control for the same reason like they took burrow and Higgins at the same time yeah and Jamar Chase no but like the first the same draft was B one Higgins was the first pick of the second round yeah and then they took Jamar so I have
These two guys and and then they they double up by getting Jamar Chas yeah yeah like that that works but now you got to figure out how to pay him but at least you got five years of production right yeah not two G Wilson’s case and that’s Garrett Wilson’s a great example
Because that’s always been my thing is like all right so if you take Marvin Harrison JR this year and then just for argument sake you got shador in here next year shador oh shador is ready to like take the team to the promised land what in two years three years after they
Draft him so now you’re in your four of Marvin Harrison Jr and now you’re hitting your window which is when Marvin Harrison Jr starts to get expensive right that’s my point yeah Fred and like I don’t think that we’ll look at it if they took Marvin Harrison this year at
Three I don’t think that we would look at and say wow what a bust no I don’t think that I think he’s good and I think he would be a good player the question I would have is how much does he help you if you don’t have the the other part
Answered uh Dylan’s in Maine what’s up Dylan oh hello hello hello Jerry hey I’m here okay okay all right all right so what’s the deal with the international player pathway program what do you mean like how does it work there yeah there’s a player from Wales that just declared for it and he’s
A he’d be a very good wide receiver okay I think we should I don’t how I don’t know how we’d get him yeah so I mean I think they go they go to the combine and you know um any team that takes that person from Wales it’s an exemption on
Their roster uh so they but they have to keep them on the roster for I think two years um but yeah it he won’t count against the 53 for whichever team takes him um that’s not true no he doesn’t count against the 90 man R doesn’t count
Okay doesn’t count against the 90 yeah right he if he’s on like yakob Johnson counted against the 53 man roster if you keep him then he counts yeah but you get an extra guy at training camp if you if you go through that program and then
Once you I think you have to keep him for two years is that right I don’t think so you don’t think so okay I don’t know I’m not sure about that detail but it used to I I don’t know if it’s new now because they it used to like almost
Get the player was like assigned to you right like it was like a group of that’s how I understood it but I don’t know the it wasn’t like the player had free agency to go and sign anywhere but I don’t know if they’ve changed that rule
All right keep an eye out for the well he he’s one of the one of the better Wingers for Welsh rugby and he just declared the other week so keep an eye out for but sounds good thanks Dy maybe Bruins can sign him oh well they need a Winger
They need secondary scoring dud they always do they always do although they have been doing pretty well with secondary scoring Trent fredi stepping upick is okay I don’t really think anything of the rest of like the H is not going to have three pucks deflect off his skates
Until I’m more worried about their Frontline guys honestly like they Charlie Co the first hockey on your own first line Center Charlie Coyle he’s played really well I I love Charlie coth Carolina Michelle will you get these people back on track please who do I who
Do I need to take care of take care of Paul and Evan they want to talk about hockey and this is Patriots oh okay guys even though I love hockey you got to knock it off okay thank you okay Michelle sorry scolded take it to you
Know let’s get back to reality here what we’re talking about hey guys I’m trying to get rid of this damn bad owl in my tree he keep oh pain in my car with his poop and I’m I want to shoot him oh you you can’t shoot
An owl you get in trouble he’s a pain in my butt oh anyway okay I got no so these Patriots that was a good um leadway but um could could this um OC search have something to do with mayo not wanting to make decisions on the offensive side of the ball because
He’s not used to doing it that way and he doesn’t want to have to make the choice um about keeping Mac um because Mac waser listen if you want to if you want to take that burden of the Mac decision off your shoulders hire an OC and let
That person make the decision yeah you know or hire a general manager which we’re alerted to apparently I think that this is like a factor in the fact that these OC candidates these who’s making the Personnel decisions in this building right now and do I trust that guy that’s
Doing it who liked Michael Jordan who’s like we got to get Michael Jordan according to ma uh gerro he said he is yeah yeah he’s making the personel decisions he says he’s in charge right all the like PE I think somebody asked him recently I was in the eii like with
All these interviews and everything that’s going on who’s making the decision he said it’s all me oh God I missed that my God you didn’t I he said something like that maybe some catch that but I didn’t listen to the EI somebody can check me on that so just
And then give me my flowers but is he going to is he going to let the O bring in his own people I would think so yeah because I think that’s one of the reasons why Bill O’Brien didn’t stay because he wasn’t allowed to bring in his own there’s been some speculation on
Well thanks Michelle that’s one reason the the speculation that I’ve seen on bringing in guys is on defense that I that some of these guys that they’re interviewing for defense coordinator might actually be more position coach related if Covington is the guy there’s one guy that had some ties to comington
From college forget which one Hodes from the Saints sounds sounds right yeah the linebackers coach from New Orleans yeah um I think there’s been some speculation that that could be kind of like last year when they had Adrien Clem in for ostensibly an offensive coordinator spot
And he wound up being I I kind of feel that way about Kay too like somebody that Kaye is he really ready to be an offensive coordinator with you know the system he just came from with with Shawn McVey I mean it seems more like let’s bring some familiarity
He he’s not probably ready yet like maybe Zack Robbins is ready but he maybe you know you bring them as a package deal kind of thing yeah I think Christian Parker from the Broncos also is their their secondary coach their DB’s coach and like I look at that and
Like all right if you’re going to lose Brian and Mike pelino because maybe they go with Bill somewhere then now you have it these are you know him T Lua Hodges from the Saints these guys are all great candidates to be positioned and I read um Bert Breer earlier in the
Week sort of speculated that that some of these might be with them with an eye toward filling out the staff yeah that makes sense defensively I haven’t heard any of that offensively but Kaylee would be an example uh Chad Atlanta writes in what are the chances that they don’t
Actually hire a GM and Mayo ends up being the pseudo GM kind of like how bill was he wasn’t pseudo he was the GM anyway craft did say in his solo press conference that he didn’t like the idea of having one person choose players someone else because he thought there
May end up being discourse in finger pointing however he also said that Bill had earned that role so I’m kind of confused at this point growing and W smells too much like Patricia and judge I don’t like it well I wouldn’t say that I just think that there’s nobody in
Charge right now that we know of that has final say on personnel and I like I just think that there’s a confidence level of if you’re getting hired as an offensive coordinator and you’re going to a staff that you know the Eagles for example like you’re going to a building
With hoe Roseman running Personnel that you can have a lot of confidence in that Howe roseman’s going to draft good players and that that they’re going to have good talent on the offensive side of the ball I I just Patriots just don’t have that right now in my opinion and I
I think that that when you have a GM it’s like kind of having like one voice right you have one this is our message this is what we’re about this is what we’re trying to build here and right now it feels like is that gerro like I guess
Like that’s just gerro trying to relay that message to these people uh darpin in New York City says great job as always particularly this weird for us younger spoiled Patriots fans four to 13 year four and 13 year I could always depend on the Pu crew to say it as it is
One comment and one question comment when you talked about how ownership might have a hand in Josh and Gerard being exposed to more of Bill’s Work it got me thinking why Bill never actively did that with someone as a his success successor and then it occurred to me he
Did do that with Matt Patricia Patricia came back after his lion stint and basically did Ernie Adam’s job which I’m sure holds great importance for Bill he even reportedly handed out and even negotiated contracts then Bill puts him in charge of the offense taking it all it seems pretty clear Patricia was and
Is Bill’s chosen successor not relevant anymore but still interesting it was the that guy who was basically a disaster most places he coached I disagree I don’t think Bill did that with the idea that he was going to be his successor because Bill knew that he wasn’t picking
His successor we’ve talked about it before whose decision was it the crafts right so no he just it was a comfort level I think he believed in Patricia I think he thought he was smart and he could do a bunch of different things Patricia was down bad after the Lions
Too that stint I feel like it was like bring back here build him back up yeah he death threats he’s down bad now oh I know uh the question if Bill is left standing When the Music Stops should gerro consider hiring the people who reportedly left with him my instinct
Would be no because I would question their commitment to the Patriots but I’m very interested to know what the people who reportedly left with him yeah nobody left yet nobody they’re all in limbo yeah yeah now I don’t think that there’s some of some of those guys I don’t think
Will be back but they’re not going to be back no matter what right like Joe judge yeah cam mord yeah like I don’t think those guys are going to I mean I like in terms of taking Bill’s guys back like I would take the bich and Mike pelo back
Like I think that’s that’s different though like you look at guys like judge like that’s a true bill loyalist like you can’t you can’t have him here uh and uh in terms of Eldred saying hello to uh I was just Tony from Virginia says in the military customs and courtesy it
Dictates you always address the women or woman in the room or formation first so there you go okay damn right what about equality that I’m I’m off for chivalry about chivalry yeah poor Jess you know I’ll take the chivalry I’m not I’m not watching Joe alt again tonight Evan
I’m not doing it I’m old school I’ll I’ll take that uh Alex in Raleigh North Carolina just want to say that all the haters can suck a golf ball through a garden hose the 01 podcast was awesome and 03 will also be even better being 6
Years old for 01 I don’t remember where I was exactly for it and being eight 03 these podcasts are the best way to explain it all again from a different perspective haters will always be there F them agreed I’m with Paul and Evan give us the new coordinator on offense
And do not retread in OC please we need the update of this uh to this decade of offenses please oh don’t say modern offense that’ll get them all triggered too it that Trigg weekend fighting with people on Twitter after that so why you guys just have to stay off it just it
Feels so up in the air on the offensive side of ball and it’s like even with the defense it’s like Steve Bryan pelo they can come they can go like you know you think they’ll be all right it seems like comington is going to stay but I just I
Have no idea on the offensive side of the ball I mean Troy Brown’s going to be down there coaching at the Senior Bowl is is he back and you know what if they hire weird Zack Robinson to come in like is Troy Brown going to teach the
Receivers how to you know what the McVey are like there’s a lot of moving Parts on TR Brown at the Senior Bowl thing is kind of weird isn’t it like is he going to be down there like representing the Patriots like I I just cuz you know he
Should be down there representing you know me how far ahead does that stuff get planned Senior Bowl stuff going to be the coaches like after the season ends I mean probably yeah after CU so they know what teams are available going to be I’m not by the way against
Um a retread offensive coordinator I just don’t want our red dreads yeah I want to change our offense not asking much just don’t make it Josh mcel and I and I love Josh Mel you guys know that I have a great relationship with him two
And if you told me that he has an extensive back ground in that system the Rams you know McVey or Shan whatever yeah I don’t know how I don’t know how he could but if you told me that I wouldn’t be against him running that offense yeah he’s not running that
Offense but I don’t think he’s running that offense like he’s running his own there there’s other guys that are going to be available that have coordinator experience that I wouldn’t mind taking a shot at would you consider Nick Kayley a retread yeah pretty much yeah now he
Tight end he was tight he was tight here for years that was like a so he made a lateral move to go to yeah because he wasn’t considered offensive coordinator how does he look at tight pants yeah really good okay so he could do it yeah
Now I wouldn’t be he plays the part I wouldn’t be opposed to him only because at least he has like that full season of immersion in that I heard Devon mccordi talking uh on one of the million shows that Devon does nowadays his shows and
Uh he he just mentioned that he went out to uh la for the playoff game um you know talk talk to those guys and he talked to Kaye for a while and Kaye said that you know they they do a lot of of the same things fundamentally like
They’re coaching a lot of the same fundamentals with the Rams but they just deliver it differently and I think it he really enjoyed like the different experience of of coaching uh Mike and Charlotte says am I the only one who thinks Gerard is not ready for this job I feel like there was
A two-year succession plan in place to get him ready and get Bill to retirement but when the season did not go as plann Robert cave to public pressure and replaced bill with a guy who’s not ready I just don’t think handing the keys to A7 billion doll franchise to someone
Who’s never even been a coordinator is very good business no I mean I I I think that’s fair I mean I think that’s what we’re all wondering and it’s it’s coming out now in these details of how he’s putting the staff together and I think you know
For me I was initially encouraged by some of the different people that he’s you know interviewing it so shows that you know there’s they’re expanding out a little bit and and breaking this kind of cycle of just the same kind of thing but look there’s no question no one’s going
To sit here and be like he’s totally ready like I I don’t know but that’s like you know part of what this is with gerro mayo and clearly everything that the craft said about him he’s earned this opportunity in their eyes and that’s all that matters so I don’t know
I I think when we were getting into this like post Bill stuff it kind of ft to me like no matter who it was it’s it’s a fewe guy and unless it’s unless he’s really special that that might be it you know like you’re going to get on this
Cycle of what most teams are and maybe gerro Mayo’s special but you know it’s it’s hard to sit here and tell you yes he definitely is I don’t know that’s what we’re gonna have to watch yeah like I don’t think he’s ready for it but I don’t think that it’s because he’s not
Capable of doing it I just in the I would just the pushback that I keep having is like he has no adults in the room with him there’s nobody in there that has been a general manager that’s been a head coach before you know Antonio Pierce and and uh with the
Raiders he has Tom Coughlin as like a senior advisor to the head coach that’s like holding his hand through all of these things that he’s doing for the first time like who’s doing that right now for Gerard Mayo and that’s not on gerod Mayo that that’s that’s on the
Organization like there need we have plenty of people that have come through this building that can do that for him like there’s plenty of Scott peoli and Thomas demits and all these different people like call up one of these people and have them come back and help him
Through this because it’s not fair to give a 37-year-old head coach now he’s hiring coordinators he’s worried about the draft he’s going down to the Senior Bowl next week Point like what what are we doing I think it would help I don’t know if those guys would help as much
But you know like cuz Coughlin coach Pierce like there’s a connection there you know with a former coach helping you know a former player I don’t know if if a GM does that like who’s the guy um that was with the Falcons that worked for the league um oh I forget his name
Like he’d be good but even if it’s like a he because he understands like the whole ins and outs of the business side plus the football side um even if it’s a head coach no no type of of person like even if it’s not one of the GM guys that have
That have been around here even if it’s a head coach but I I think a GM it’s just John Rob Mike Lombardy like I I’m not a big fan of his either but like these types of people that have been around that have done it before right now like I
Just feel like it’s all on a 37-year-old firsttime head coach to figure all this stuff out all the things that Evan says I think would be valuable I just would rather be a coach than a GM now I would like both you know and the whole thing
With with grow and wolf like people like I I understand these guys you know I think people like why are we sticking with these guys well they’re going to Ral they’re going to continue to revaluate the talent you need you need someone to evaluate the talent I don’t
Think they’re going to make the pick I I I I think that and and certainly sounds from what Fred said that Gerard’s going to make the pick I don’t I I definitely missed that yeah but you know this whole collaborative process is going to be interesting to
See how it it works out I don’t think collaborative works I really don’t I think at the end of the day someone has to be the adult in the room and make a pick Evan’s point I’m not sure there are enough adults around J Mayo collaborate collaboration Works in gathering the
Information and sharing ideas and opinions but at the at some point somebody’s going to make the final decision right I agree for I just feel like the boss right now of this football operations is a 37-year-old who’s never been a coach in the NFL before yeah who
Has never coordinated a defense on his own before he’s a leader of men so to answer he’s a fantastic coach but by the way Alex did a nice job um with the story on patriots.com right now I’m Evan it’s okay what did I say you said Alex
Alex um good job Evan uh interviewed some of the former linebackers on the uh traits of uh Gerard May so you can read that on pat.com hey you got high tower I did get high tower high tower I get to I read it I read it in traffic jie I got
High tower and uh I don’t know if you guys know Alex got caught in traffic this morning after I did the interview with high tower I was like look I I got to ask you you know do you want to come back and Coach like are you interested
In coaching and uh and he was like yeah you know my my wife like has been on me about it and you know I’m thinking about it thinking about it so I recruited him I gave him my best pitch I was like he was tweeting eyeball emojis like last
Month yeah I was like this is what you should do it like you’d be great at it I know Gerard has talked actually on the record about how he thinks high tower would be a great coach um they need a linebacker coach and uh you know he’s a
Pretty good one so okay uh Travis in West Virginia um a little off topic here Paul seems to think that every time someone bashes Josh Allen is because of an ulterior motive such as jealousy or hatred of the bills I have no ulterior motive my evaluation is honest when I
Watch him play I Feel there is something missing from his game that leaves him far short of the greatness you all think he possesses so far I’m right you’re wrong he hasn’t accomplished didly poo also I hate Coco go he’s right and you’re wrong I just would disagree that
He hasn’t accomplished didly Pooh yeah I don’t like I’m not one of these guys that just closes my eyes throughout the whole year and then says oh by the way who won the Super Bowl yeah that’s the only oh that’s the one that that accomplished something that’s not how it
Works for me I watch games I watch how games are won I watch how much a guy has to do with the the game that they won and I give him credit for that yeah there’s one some people don’t unless it’s a Super Bowl you give him credit
For you know there’s one thing to say this guy is incredibly talented and I I that’s where I give him the credit right he’s incredibly talented player but it is fair to say that he has no MVPs he’s never made a Super Bowl he’s never won a
Super Bowl like he in terms of resume like he hasn’t accomplished I know but watch it is he a good quarterback that’s what I just said I said he’s super Talent just watch what it takes for them to win games on on a regular basis bis
Not like you know every single game but on a regular basis watch the difference between winning and losing and more more often than not when they win he’s the reason oh yeah he’s incredible there aren a lot of games like the Dallas game where they just line up and run it a 100
Times and that’s how they win the game and even their run game like it it in the second half of the season they started really running the ball well and it was because they let him run because of him right like so all of a sudden
They’re letting him be a threat in the Run game and now the Run game works and people say the same stuff about Lamar Jackson he’s never won anything just watch the games and see why the Ravens win consistently but the emailer is correct in his thought that whatever
Patriots fans don’t are like it Paul will take the opposite no that’s why I change it to Lamar Jackson who doesn’t really seem to get under anyone’s skin he will this week W um if if if they happen to lose not good as Brady he like this isn’t about Brady and it it’s
Always about Brady but see I’d like to think that our listeners are a little bit more evolved than than the average Patriot fan yeah I think our listeners actually watch the games and don’t just React to what everything is written on Twitter I just my question is how do you
Fix Josh all like that’s like the the question I think he’s fascinating because you know it’s you’re right like when they win it’s because of him and when he tries to do too much sometimes though like at the end of the game last week like you know it’s it it doesn’t
Happen and what did he do you know uh you know it’s not taking underneath stuff like you know trying to force it down being a little bit more aggressive but it’s you know it’s situ when you’re you’re at least tied it’s situational but it’s the same but it’s the same
Stuff with themick shot field goal range make it he didn’t well even outside of that specific game there the kind of the same stuff with him and when he loses like that’s what it is you you know who has the least amount of turnovers as a quarterback since 2020 in in the
Playoffs Josh Allen okay but I’m saying but if you ask if you ask everybody the reason why Josh Allen is not quote unquote that good it’s because he turns the ball over too much but he doesn’t do that in the playoffs but how would you fix him like like that’s my question to
Be fixed that’s my point but but how would you put it around him like he’s got Stefan digs who’s an excellent wide receiver they went more to they went more to a running game they said all last year I got to be better about my decision making how much better could
They have played offensively in that game than they did I know and they scored every time they got the ball and then throw y pass right into right into a GU three times no and that’s why three times it’s it’s you’re wrong though Deuce you’re wrong I’m not say no we’re
On the same side like that’s what that’s what I’m I’m not saying that I’m right I’m just I’m giving you my view you you might be right that might be the thing that’s keeping them back they consistently get in shootouts with the best and I’ve never said that Josh
Allen’s better than Patrick Mahomes they consistently get in shootouts with the best shootout quarterback who’s ever done it yeah I I think that they that and they lose I think that mcdermid’s gotten them as far as he can I think mcdermid has plateaued and he’s not a
Big game coach and I think it’s Mo mostly on on that that that might say he can’t get any rder I’m saying that he’s you know there’s always the coach before the coach for a lot of a lot of these guys no no no I think I think the Shawn
Mcdermit qu I would much feel much more comfortable questioning him who’s supposed to be a defen of genius and yet cannot stop the other team in the playoffs yeah or ever or just like they don’t even slow them down the Demar Hamlin uh fake punt on your own 30 yard
Line I mean I think that one was a a check which wasn’t they didn’t that’s what they said after the game they said after the game it was came from the sideline I think he did exactly what a good coach does and he took responsibility for it much like
Bill did with Patrick Chung back in 2010 maybe I think that’s what good coaches do I just I look at that because I I I think in some respect but I think it was an automatic check that happened on the field that I think if mcder had said you
Can’t do that now not from your own 30 always under the impression that Chung they only had 10 guys on the field I still remember the clip of that of Bill talking Chung as he came off the field and it was just like one of those conversations we’ve all had with coaches
Like oh my God he just walked away and you could see Chung kind of like Palms up like oh I I think that you know with I think there’s a lot of Truth to what evans’s talking about mcdermit it reminds me and I hate I hate saying this
Because as a as a green teamer I hate saying this but it reminds me a lot of the Celtics right now where it’s like either Jason Tatum is going to take them to the promised land or he’s not and that’s just like no matter what you put
Around him no matter what else you do and none of it’s going to matter unless he’s ready to do it he’s got to hit those shots at the end of the game and Josh all to feel the same way when he’s ready to win a Super Bowl they’ll win a
Super Bowl yeah uh Todd’s in North Carolina what’s up Todd hey guys suffer through this uh loss of hearing um just a quick Point uh are we putting Fred’s lips in the Patriot Place once uh he sheds this Mortal coil because I think we kind of you know need something like
That my lips but yeah you kiss Brady dude oh oh you you waited half an hour to say that I didn’t think it’d be half an hour Fred oh okay you can just email that I’ll read it I’ll read it with emphasis anyway my question is it looks
Like we’re gonna have to get some new staff in so are you GNA be more happy with a new like a a brand a person in the new to the role of GM or a person new to the role of offensive coordinator which one do you think we should
Probably end up having do I have to choose you have to choose yeah I’d rather I’d rather have if you’re gonna have a GM I’d rather have somebody new to the OC job than GM you know like like am I really helping our 37y Old Coach by
Bringing in someone who’s never been a GM before yeah you know that’s fair well we already have two of those like we have Elliot wolf and mro that can do that and you don’t like that well I don’t I just think I need I need an adult I need somebody that’s been and
Done it before at least there’s people here that have been like doing the work whereas there’s just like no one on the offensive side right now no but like would you rather have Elliot wolf as the GM and some new guy as offensive coordinator yes
Or a new GM who you love and Josh McDaniels as offensive coordinator I’d rather do the first one yeah I don’t think it matters I think they need both of them I think they’re extremely important positions that need to be you told me to choose he he he did
I I told you I think they’re both they’re both really chose and then you yelled yeah I’d rather have the best I didn’t yell at him you know see now you got them all warmed up I didn’t yell at him this is all this is on you Deuce no
It’s my fault I don’t think either one’s good all right then don’t ask a question it’s the opposite I think both of them are very important I know what you’re saying but it just wasn’t fair I don’t know there’s something appealing about a young GM who cuz I I just think for
These next couple years it’s like just find Talent identify Talent bring talent in build the talent on this team I don’t know where they’re going to go postseason all that stuff in 2024 but that that to me is like you know if Josh McDaniels is out there coordinating for
A little bit fine but you know I just that’s to me find the talent like get the guy who can find those the biggest issue with the team the biggest issue with the team is Personnel it’s Talent on the field and so they have to have
The best possible people in place to get the most talent I would also say coaching was a problem last year too it was but I I think that their roster Talent was the reason why over give me a good give me a good offensive line coach please you know
I’ll take stuff I never heard during the course of the season please for 200 Deuce yeah Raymond in St Louis what’s up Raymond how’s it going um I just had a quick question um I know um podcast is is the biggest thing right now how did
Y’all pit a podcast back then when you know podcast wasn’t you know as looked at how did you pick to um get this idea across then well yes Mr K tell us how you did it I’ll tell you Raymond it’s a good question you can take this class at
Emerson so no I mean we were always you know on The Cutting Edge with the Patriots because of Jonathan Craft and we actually our first one was with the revolution we had the general manager of the team we did a a call-in I you know
Back then there was no iPods so the word podcast hadn’t even been you know labeled yet so this is back in like 99 and um we did uh I forget what the name of it was but it was you know an IP based I think it was in the net or
Something like that yeah some no no that came after it was like GM’s Corner something like that so we would do that and then we would record it and then put it up there for people to listen afterwards uh or download to well they they didn’t really have downloads Call
Internet radio show yeah it just an internet radio or they called it IP radio and then we we did the next year we did the Patriots and uh we did two shows um we did the show with Paul and me but we also did one called Patriots
Cyber uh cyber cafe yeah and our PR guy at the time Don Lowry would sit in the lunchroom with the players and he would just pull players over while they were eating their lunch and interview but listen that’s great if we could do that now i’ do it I can’t even imagine it
Would be amazing if we could set up just so I could eat in the players that’s no but that was you know so we did that back in the old stadium before the new stadium was even we just we’ve been doing it ever since and then of course
When when you know iPods came about then podcasts then there was a way to download it onto a device even before the even before the iPhone it was the that’s why it was still the world’s original podcast right it was the iPod um that came before the iPhone and you
Could download it and and all that stuff but yeah it’s a good question Raymond thanks for asking I’m always happy to talk about back in the days when I dropped my first fbom on the show yeah Paul yeah that was back I was mad at Brian we had an office in Walpole
Because the stadium wasn’t built yet it’s God’s country I heard yeah no one gets under Paul skin like Brian Mor even even now he hasn’t even been here for like five years yeah he’s still mad at yeah uh Boston cream is calling in what’s up Boston I want to thank you
Boston cream that that that honor was was really special what did he come what was the rating he came Paul came in with uh who knows near perfect thank you Boston cream appr 58.3 he said Paul came in as like the highest ranked media member in Boston based on his ranking a
Little ban the I’m yeah it was like my 3 are you okay I’m fine I’m not I’m not sick the tail yeah who was uh who was pull in this was it all extensive research from what I gather right Boston cream he consulted with PF all the donuts checked
In okay jelly donut unfortunately the analytics information isn’t public at this point but uh it has been triple Source it’s a proprietary formula proprietary all right will you will you be presenting at the Sloan Sports analytics uh convention I don’t really care to discuss the future of analytics here but
Uh I’m trying to spearhead it okay uh reason I called in guys it’s an offseason show this is way too much football talk well there are some things happening here it’s not your typical off season here with the Patriots we got picks got a hurry oh I may allow for
That listen Bill bellich told us we have to talk about this in exchange you guys go to a Super Bowl party you have first round pick on the food what’s the first item hit in the Plate at a Super Bowl party oh buffalo chicken buffalo chicken dip we
Just did that buffalo chicken dip we just became best friends I could go taco dip which is in the same family got like a cream cheese base with some salsa and some cheese antier so you’re all starting with the dips buffalo chicken dip could it’s a girl meal too though the tenderloin
Sliders in Arizona oh wow that’s very specific now if it’s if it’s a might have had about a dozen it’s a h toyy party shrimp cocktail or bacon wrap scops right bacon wrap scallops solid Choice uh yeah that’s classy for a that budget is Bon covers up the scol come on
Guys good Wings mac and cheese buffalo chicken wings wings questionable at the that mess what about you boss what’s hitting your plate first Donuts right Donuts duh didn’t say it friends off guys okay what he say I don’t know I don’t know he speaks his own language
Jess makes a mean buffalo chicken dip though real good well it’s about time you compliment her on something I compliment her you know what else is very good um crab dip ever crab dip it’s good stuff CRA you’re not you’re not you don’t know from the crab Not crab dip do
You like crab cakes crab n I’m a crab I had crab cakes uh and I’m not a big Seafood person but they were really good really good crabs I don’t know uh let’s go to Matt in Virginia Beach hey Matt hey how y’all doing today okay hello
Matt hey just something I wanted to touch on real quick um just reading through fan blogs and whatnot I noticed like a lot of people get in their Bridges all twisted up that we haven’t named a general manager yet it’s actually it’s given me a sense of
Comfort that uh the Patriots seem to be taking their time and really identifying uh who they want as a part of this new regime um I really don’t care so much who it’s just what their philosophy is and like making sure it aligns with Coach mayo and what he’s trying to do
And what he’s trying to bring to the table um one thing I love about Coach Mayo what he said that the the modern player they want to know why the they’re asked to do things it’s so true uh just for a little context um I’m in a
Leadership position in the US Navy and for your service Beyond true that the new crop of kids coming in they want to know why they’re asked to be doing things even in the military even in the military it’s a thing you wouldn’t think you think we would just follow orders and go and
While that is definitely still a thing you know good order and discipline is still a thing a lot of the kids they want to know why they’re being asked to do things and I’ve had to adapt my leadership style to that over the years where uh the whole thing going back to
Collaboration it works in the military as well where you can explain okay this is the mission this is how we need to execute the mission what are the ways we can best execute this mission to make sure that we have success so it works for us here in the military and I think
It could work as well for the Patriots as far as collaboration is concerned I like a lot of the things that coach Mayo is saying okay I just hope whoever we bring in like I hope that lines with what he’s trying to bring to the table
Uh I think we kind of get desensitized a little bit um especially us as fans you know if you make it to the NFL level in any capacity like you’re not just a dope sitting in your office licking the Windows like you’re a smart person yeah
I’m just it’s given me a sense of comfort that they’re taking their time and really trying to identify the best people and uh that’s really all I got so Matt Matt hold on a sec hold on before you go I just what what what brings you the confidence that they’re looking for
Somebody I think just the fact that they haven’t jumped out and named anybody yet cuz I mean that’s no I know but what if but what if that’s what that that’s by Design This is the plan they’re going to go forward and like Elliot wolf is going
To be just the guy like I don’t I’d be all for that yeah I think they need a guy Elliot wolf is the guy if he’s going to be the one because ultimately there does I agree there does have to be a final decision maker you can’t just go
Around the table over and over and over and just spin your wheels and if Elliot wolf is that guy and they deem him worthy of that position I mean I’m all for naming him general manager whatever you want to call it I I think they need
To do better but that’s me I think they need to find a guy thanks Matt appreciate it they’re not looking I don’t think they’re the bigger question that I had for Matt was what makes you think they’re looking yeah I I don’t think they’re looking I think that that
This is what they’re going to do this collaborative thing this is what we’re doing now well what if they really like let’s just say it’s um wolf then I think they would have said it no maybe they want to keep things going until after the draft and once the draft is over
They will say it yeah but I I don’t have any doubt that that could happen but I wanted to I want to talk to people I don’t understand why we’re closing ourselves off to having people that are only here yeah like that’s what I don’t
Get I yeah I I also think but I think the Navy they’re the most cuttingedge Branch I couldn’t agree with you more that’s what I’ve heard I’m just I’m just imagine like Millennial Army like God why we got we got to take out that encampment up there why like I don’t
Mind doing it they’re shooting at us right now trust issu you need to see the vision it’s going to be hard whatever it is like I know like firsthand not that I was in the Navy but what like I have like a learning thing and like Algebra I
Couldn’t get it so like and not for a lack of trying but when I finally did get it and I understood the what was behind it I could teach it because I thoroughly understood it and I think there is something to understanding not you know what we’re doing but why and
How free time you want to help TJ yeah no I’m serious and like and so I like to this day like I never I usually don’t get things the first time around it takes me a little bit longer but once I get it I really get it how did you push
Through that frustration as a kid because I’m experiencing that as a parent right now where my you know if it doesn’t come easily to them in a variety of things Sports academics it doesn’t come easy I can’t get get it I’m stupid I’m not going to do that that’s also our
Generation I’m sorry yeah you know like we like to do things that are easy to us right the second that you feel something that’s like super challenging to you that’s what I think a lot of like younger players in the league struggle with this because they’ve been so good
At football their entire lives that like once they get to this point and they actually start to struggle a little bit it’s like okay I give up right like and you know I think that that’s that’s something that I’ve definitely noticed from then we’re back to Jason Tatum and [Laughter]
Come on I I wasn’t no it’s a good question I think how it’s being when it’s easy they’re great it’s it’s a kind of a question I’m like as a parent right now just cuz you know it’s like dude like you get so frustrated the second
You don’t get it and now you’re just in this like Spiral thing of like I can’t get it I can’t like it takes a little bit of time focus on it work you know it’s just it’s it’s hard to get through push through that initial frustration it
Is all right um it’s that time of the week got to hurry Alex what happened how bad were you I got to find out who’s playing think of one game I got wrong you are terrible Paul what happened last week well I told you that you know there
Is someone who has a feel for the league and that’s really shining through in these postseason games um he was matched by Evan this week in the overall Evan and Fred 4 and0 Wow Mike Alex and Paul 3 and one but where it really separates
I’m 4 and0 that’s all I heard is is with the spread Fred also went 4 and0 with the spread we just turns it on in the postseason well Evan and Paul went two and two that’s what happens Mike and Alex W 0 and four oh well I’m not good
With this spread so here we are uh it doesn’t matter it’s okay overall it’s Fred at 9 and one wow Mr Jan EV and Paul 7 and3 Mike 6 and4 and Miss traffic jam at 5 and5 it was Lumber Lumber there was Lumber everywhere two by fours Fred with the spread seven and
Three followed by Paul at 6 and4 Evan at 5 and5 Mike and the lumber yard at 3 and seven the lumber yard lumber yard all right well um we’ve basically got three games left two two this weekend and one more after that so see what happens
We’re not going to pick the Senior Bowl no I think the West what about the Pro Bowl no oh we we’ll bet on the skills part of the Pro Bowl yeah yeah Max is most accurate all right um he wasn’t even three 3 o’clock on Sunday on CBS in
Paramount plus plus it up the 11 and six Chiefs are at the 13 and four Ravens Baltimore by three and a half Baltimore all right I’m going to do it I think it’s Baltimore’s time um I’m really kind of mad at myself myself that I didn’t pick Kansas City last week because I
Remember saying upul during the offseason during the end of the regular season I’m like I feel like this is kind of like the’ 06 Patriots where they don’t really have it but they’re going to knock a good team off in the division I said it and then I didn’t I didn’t go
With it I was wrong anywh who that’s a long way of saying similar to 2006 when the Patriots ran out of gas because of you know the flu of course uh well they pumped it into they pumped it in and and plus noise they pumped that in too so no
One can overcome that but I’m taking Baltimore I will lay the points um I think it’s their time to go to the Super Bowl with Lamar I will second that I’m going to take Baltimore as well by three though right the spread is three and a half is the spread so I’m
Going to take Kansas City to cover wow the hook but I I really like uh Baltimore because now they have a complete team like it’s not you know they have defense they can run the ball they can uh you know rely on Lamar obviously but that defense is playing
Exceptionally well yeah I made that comment to you last week about their defense and then I I watched the game I was like I no it shows up I mean I I kind of felt like it was a little overrated but it was not overrated last
Week um and they were missing some key pieces too like Marlon Humphrey yeah I mean they linebackers fly to the ball that roquan Smith TR was huge Kyle Hamilton is what we wish Kyle Dugger was like that guy’s just a freak yeah they’re they’re really good yeah I I’m
With Evan I’m going to take Baltimore to win I think they’re at home I think they get it done but I think Kansas City is Scrappy proud enough to to keep it within oh yeah I mean they’re the Patriots they’re the modern day Patriots I mean you can’t ever count them out um
Fred um they’ve won two Patriots won six but when it comes to talk to me when you win talk to me when you get Che the do OA of their opponents you can’t ever they got Patrick Mahomes so you can never count them out uh but I am going
To go with the Ravens in this game I I you taking the points or no I what do you mean you’re going with the Ravens are you taking the points or are you giving the points the Ravens will win by more than the points okay I can’t wait for this B this can’t
Believe I’m losing to this guy and I’m losing Mr January over here uh before we get I’m losing by two games and both before we get to the next one I just want to tell you whether you’re in the game or betting on the game you’ll need
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It um now we get to the second game at 6:30 on Fox and fox dep pores um I think both these games are good but this one’s a tossup I really do think it’s the 12 and five Lions of course against the 12 and 5 49ers great game ners by seven
Bunch of man football in this one gritty I you know this might sound silly but like I really found myself hating Brock pie last weekend and I really have been kind of neutral on him the whole time I found myself laughing out she got a grin
Ear to ear there’s also a girl on Tik Tok you’ve probably seen her named Anna fry who looks exactly like Brock pie and that’s like why she’s internet famous right now is a girl on Tik Tok who looks like tell me everything I need to know
She’s not famous she’s just a Tik tocker that looks like Brock pie some people out there know what I’m talking about I wish I could I’m sure you all do except for me I wish I could pick Detroit in this I’m going to be rooting for them um
I just think they’re a great story but I’m gonna I’m gonna take San Fran and but I’m gonna get the points to Detroit I think it’ll be close yeah I’m going the same way with Mike uh if it were my heart it would be Detroit winning but it
Would be so fun to see I mean a lot of points though it is a lot of points I’m taking why they Tak the point Detroit will cover I’m going to do the same thing but I think the Niners in this game play a lot better I think the
Packers uh it’s a bad matchup they know each other really really well with the two coaches having a relationship and the Packers always seem to play the ners really tough I think the Niners are a little bit easier in this one maybe like a back door cover or something like that
For the Lions I take the the ners yeah I am um I’m G to take San Francisco both ways I think that um outside first of all Jarry gof is not the same and I feel like what Evan said about San Francisco I think they they got their Mulligan
Last week they should have lost the game Green Bay out played them they should have they should have won the game I think they get that reprieve and they play much much better second time around and I just to me it’s all about the defense on Detroit it’s so bad I I think
This could be one of those games where Evan’s like I’m not going to listen to Paul on Tuesday because these guys are just wide open anybody can make and I think he’s gonna be right this week these guys are GNA be wide open I think
And P is gonna look a lot different um I think a lot you know I don’t know if Debo Samuel is playing what’s the St it’s like 5050 I he probably is not going to play and if he doesn’t play I think it comes down to Brock pie because
I think the lions are going to come in I feel like they gonna make your argument for you now we only has seven other ultimate guys no I think the Lions are Going to Comm in keying on mcaffrey that’s going to be mission one is limiting him and so P’s gonna have to
Throw the ball in this game and that’s going to be a big question uh but despite that I do think the 49ers Prevail um but but I think there’s going to be some turnovers involved and I think it’s going to be closer than that spread so give me the numbers yeah at
Least I have a chance give me the give me the I have a chance to catch them give me the numbers but I do think we’re going to see a rematch of the Ravens and 49ers uh Super Bowl and uh hopefully this time somebody guards the electrical
Outlets and uh they can keep the power true that is a rematch not a rematch doesn’t believe in rematches why not why is it CU you say that there’s no such thing if the last game was in a Super Bowl and this game is in a Super Bowl
It’s a rematch well their last game last game was a Super Bowl oh it wasn’t yeah they played earlier this they play more 201 the game I’m comparing it to was also a super B I’m arguing with you about yourself absolutely it’s a rematch they in my book this quantifies as a
Rematch book of but the book of curse generally poooo rematch right if we were talking about the regular season game and somebody said oh this is rematch of the Super Bowl no that’s wrong it’s not no it’s not or if you’re playing if you just played in the Super Bowl and then
You meet in the first week of the season it’s not a rematch because it’s not the same Stakes was Super Bowl 46 you he any more qualifications for a rematch I’ll tell you when it’s a 46 and rematch of 42 Super Bowl 46 Giants Patriots was that a rematch
4 you know what’s funny about that I think that might be what started this whole thing when he said that’s not it’s not a rematch they’re different players different teams that is a remat by the way uh quarterback 3 and 6:30 this is how it’s done oh college
Football Wonder learn a lesson wonder wonder perfect timing love it it was even better do this no but it’s perfect it’s so the network who’s covering it can have some show that will get ratings after the Super Bowl oh oh I don’t know I’m just making that up I’m just saying
That it’s the perfect it’s the perfect time slots 3 and 6:30 a good time it is because you’re going to have a bigger audience throughout you’re not going to have people cashing out at 11:00 because it’s I can barely make it to half time lately I have to miss the whole first
Game and I I think that the day after the Super Bowl should be a holiday don’t you national holiday so it’s president don’t have to is the week after that was we just push well Alex that was the absolute question that needed to be asked good job by once once the league
Moves to once the move the league moves to 18 regular season it’s going to be President’s Day and it will be a holiday after the President’s Day the next week so it’s right there like it’s coming it’s coming we’re going to get that holiday after the Super Bowl and we’re
All getting the Monday after we even get that off here do we president day probably not I don’t know he’s asking us I don’t pay attention the presidents we found out over years like the presidents weren’t really presidents now you have the power to grant us that day off you
Just work you do have that power content team holiday I have a power to do that should be a Content team holiday I don’t know did you check with Bill yeah what did Bill say yeah no days off right no days and that did nothing but but take
Them we can say that now evently how dare you uh that’s going to be it for this edition of Patriots unfiltered uh about cutting it short I got things to do um enjoy the conference championships uh and we’ll be back on Tuesday to talk about them see you
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Bro Boutte just got arrested why did he gamble under age LOL.
Less is more. Axe Fred and Paul!
Do the Superbowl on Saturday. I need that Sunday to recover
WTH?! You guys are the biggest cry babies! If you get any static from the public, even on the most inconsequential thing, you spend 15 minutes crying like a six year old who’s upset he’s not getting an ice cream cone. My god, grow a thicker skin and talk about football, not your hyper sensitive feelings! We don’t listen to hear you cry. JC GTFU!
Mayo is a diversity hire.
Call Tom Brady he's not busy,,,Bills Fan here,,,, never seen yaw look so bad…
The only thing keeping teams from being great is player greed. The pats dynasty had one major factor that is often overlooked, players were willmg to invest a little lower salary for a superbowl. Thats how you get teams like the 49ers this year with so many all stars but for an extended time.