Amateur golfer Nick Dunlap wins PGA Tour American Express Tournament by one shot. Massive accomplishment but everyone missed this unbelievable part of the story….

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Dark Star Nick Dunlap made some history this weekend winning on the PGA tour as an amateur not done very often spectacular performance but there’s names there are names that are associated with this win that you that we thought of right away maybe our audience has not thought of what are

These names that are associated with this win Dustin Johnson Bryson D Shambo Lou usas Phil Mickelson Patrick Reed Taylor G Bubba Watson Sergio Garcia to name a few and then you have them standing next to this named Nick Dunlap and and and 20-year-old from Alabama won this PGA

Event out in Palm Springs fabulous accomplishment really hats off to Nick uh us am Champion a player obviously at the moment what what is the relationship darkar tell us how do these names that we just read off tie into nick dunlap’s name well Nick Dunlop just vaulted past

All of those names in the official World Golf rankings essentially playing in his first PGA Tour event which shocking in so many different ways I mean past him but he’s only played in one event I still just want to stand here and scream and laugh and cl and

Just it’s it’s I mean it’s the very it’s the dictionary definition of comical it’s comical Nick Dunlap is ranked now as we sit here today at this moment on Tuesday January 23rd Nick Dunlap is ranked 68th in the world world he is the 68th best player if we’re to take the

Owgr seriously and that’s what they want us to do uh he’s the 68th best player and so as you you know think about that let that settle in that Dustin Johnson is is what what’s DJ’s rank right now DJ’s I think he’s 189th 189 uh and uh and the list I mean the

Hits keep coming Lou Hazen who won what two DP world events he’s won two recent world now he’s won two not one but two recent worldwide events and he’s 131st still which is confusing and as I had mentioned what my favorite guy to talk about Nick Dunlop is still behind will

Alatus all right that was another great point will who used to play golf for a little bit he played golf for a little while and he’s somehow maintaining his world ranking at what is he what what 44 it’s 44 so what the the point here is

That it’s comical and let me throw in another tidbit which is the uh the guys out in Palm Springs were shooting the leaders the top guys were shooting you know seven under a day on a track that clearly was not all too challenging and yet they grab all these

Seven under a day it’s the fact that you know you had guys that were just kind of off the couch as they say I’m going to go show up it’s a practice tournament for a lot of these guys it’s their first tournament of the year for a lot of them

They didn’t go anybody who didn’t go to Hawaii and it’s it’s and and by the way that’s just how you win I mean Jordan spe didn’t win a Top Flight event when he was 19 he won the what is that the hit and giggle at uh did he win the John

Deere the John Deere the tractor open w Open Championship so it has a reduced field a lot of the top players are over in getting ready for the open they’re warming up over there this is a similar situation but I I shouldn’t phrase it like that that should I should have

Phrased something first he is the only player to win the US Junior am the US am and win a PJ Tour event as an amateur in the history of the world so far tiger didn’t do it Phil didn’t do it well since 1948 when the junior am was

Introduced right let’s just stay right here we are not demeaning Nick dunlop’s achievement at all we I want to say that and I want to be clear on that what I am what we are demeaning is the Ridiculousness of the PGA Tour and their goal to dominate golf not on the golf

Course but in the boardroom yeah it’s it’s it points out just how stupid the owgr rankings the official world golf rankings have become I mean they they were already there but this just puts dot on it this might be the one moment where now that we’re pointing it out I haven’t heard this

Anywhere else and hats off to Darkstar for digging this up um it it it just nobody can look at that and that’s a serious person that loves Golf and say that that’s right so we think we’re coming to the end of this whole you know

Drama for the past two years it’s been a two-year thing now almost exactly um and this just pun puts a punctuation mark right right on it I mean you know the guy jumps to 68th in the world ahead of these you know fabulous players um who have proven themselves over and over and

Over again and uh you know Nick has had a great week another great week of putting and he’s in that magical so let’s just keep rolling so we’re going to talk more about Nick because it is a great accomplishment um the next point we wanted to roll into really is uh

Should the big question on in the in the room now which is should he stay an amiter or should not should he turn pro and uh we’ve been thinking about it we’ve been kicking the football around here I’m going to turn it over to darkar to give us his opinion because I think

We pretty much agree on everything here pretty much um Pro or amateur darkar for Mr Dunlap who’s 20 years old playing was his sophmore at the University of Alabama playing on the golf team should he stay or should he go let’s let’s put that I I hope the only reason he pulled

Out of the farmers he’s going home to talk to agents and family and his parents sit with his he’d be he’d be absolutely crazy not to go pro and the main reason because the way he’s been putting the last year and a half I I could only I can’t even dream I

Mean I Can Dream pretty damn well but I like that I mean I got some pretty good dreams but that but putting like that is not one of them uh you have to go pro he’s only going to putt like that for maybe like a Jordan Speed did it for

Like three years maybe he’s going to putt like that for three years he’s not Tiger Woods or Rory mroy T green but then again who is uh so he certainly he needs to go pro period end of discussion the only question is does he go PGA or

Live and there’s pluses and minuses to both um well don’t skip ahead don’t skip ahead you’re you’re it’s no I don’t mean that I mean you’re skipping over the important details which is he should go pro and your brain I know how you connect things that’s not worth talking

About well but this is a talk show so we’re going to talk about it um number one reason you said was putting and you got that out there and I I would say the number one reason is well maybe that is it but well tied closely with so that’s one the thing

That’s gotten you to where you are putting and you can talk about how he won the US amiter with uh you know the Shipley is still scratching his head like how did that happen how how did he do that um and he’s carried that forward till here here we are so yeah okay

That’s the number one thing and and putting comes and goes I mean unless you’re a very precious few guys who have kept it together for year after year after year and there aren’t many of those including Jordan be um injury it’s so easy to get hurt um you’re swinging

Hard you’re going after it it’s a very violent thing you’re doing by swinging 15 to 20 mil hour for most of those guys over and over again with the driver uh repetitive motion injuries happen all the time with your wrists with your elbows with your neck with

Your with all that your shoulders all of it is susceptible and including knee injuries that can all of that can happen and there’s lots of names I can think of that have had injuries that have taken them out for a season maybe two um and

Do you come back from that and be the same player you know Go Ask Gary Woodland uh go ask Hunter Mayan I mean there’s quite a few uh Lucas Glover injy goad you talk about repetitive injuries as a physician when it’s when they call it golfer’s elbow you know that that’s

That’s something that that’s a real problem there’s very few medical terms that are defined by the sport and the repetitive motion I mean let’s face it Lou Garrick’s disease who would have thought Lou garri would get Lou Garrick’s disease you know what I mean yeah rock on that’s a great example some

Weird uh disease that kills you now you know that’s probably not going to happen to to Nick hopefully not God willing but the other thing besides he’s putting like unbelievable right now take advantage okay you’re healthy right now and you’re 20 great you know you you

Probably are going to be healthy for the next five years take advantage because your body heals so quickly at that age uh the third thing though ties into those two things which is it we are as I put it to you uh just a few minutes

Before we came on the air we’re at a financial turning point in progolf right now when John ROM signed his big deal with li May probably was the high watermark for you know live for piff money for real money piff money we’re coining that term by the way audience it’s piff money does

He have real money does he have a jet no no piff money oh piff money well that is real money got Fleet of jets yeah right he’s got more than one he has his own actually that fractional stuff wasn’t good enough um so here we are at this

Turning point he you know if I were Nick’s parents and he’s he was homeschooled so we’re going to assume that the parents are very plugged in to their 20-year-old kid uh you know what are you you’re going through and the only real thing to talk about is the majors and do you want

To go play in those with get your owgr points and all that stuff in the next couple of years and you know I think Darkstar and I have a pretty good formul assuming Liv is willing to offer them a slot offer him a slot should he take it

Or not because here we are at this Turning Point what let me Define that you know six months from now probably not going to be in the same place right I mean the deal is going to get done it’s going to get done in the next couple of months uh maybe couple of

Weeks uh somewhere in that time frame we’ve never deviated from that belief I’m not deviating from it now it’s going to get done with the piff involved and with these Fenway guys involved uhhuh sure and then the the the signings are going to be very different it’s still

Going to be a great place to go play uh in in in sport but it’s not going to be you know big signing bonuses like it is currently and and Nick Maybe and I would give it better than a 50% probability could go grab one of those and let’s

Just go right into that Darkstar I know you agree with me on that he could grab one of those bonuses maybe it’s 20 million maybe it’s 10 it doesn’t even matter if it’s 10 or more that’s a giant number for a 20-year-old kid who has had

A great career so far but not a long career for sure and to get $10 million all at once to go play live for how many years Darkstar Maybe three I’d love that deal if I were his agent I look we’ll take 10 million 15 if I can get you 25

Obviously it just gets better and better the farther north of 10 we go if I can get you 10 and a three-year deal even if it doesn’t work out and you’re going to make more if you keep playing the way you are while you’re out there if the whole thing implodes and

You you’re stuck in three years you can go back and play the PGA Tour or whatever tour remains and get your points or however you get into the majors at that point very likely I can’t tell you exactly Nick how it’s going to turn out but if it whole thing falls

Apart it’s extremely likely that if you are in a top hundred in the world that they’re they need you more than you need them let’s get real you can’t have a golf tour without golfers they’re not just going to go down and say hey all

You guys that went to live you know the heck with you um if you’re 23 or four or five you no they want you back they need you back they’re going to ask you to come back back or wherever that tour is darkar you take over what you agree with

That mostly well I I agree but I I would have a I would I have a more difficult time getting over to live in this situation because we are at the high water mark he he is eligible for three of the four majors and he is eligible

For the seven Signature Events so he’s pretty much guaranteed I don’t know he’s going to make at least four or five million just showing up at a signature event and play well he’s got to play well he has to play he has to play okay

I don’t know he has to play that well it’s it’s more of a challenge in that regard you keep plus you know he’s vaulting up the owgr so he gets in the top 50 he qualifies for all those Signature Events now yeah so I have a little bit more of

A challenge getting all the way over to live right now now if I knew the deal was going to be done and next year there’s going to be say 12 Signature Events and four majors and the top live guys and the top PGA guys are going

There then it’s a much easier I’m not as a I’m not 100% sold on the deal for the live player at this stage and that’s why I have more of a challenge of getting directly over to live and not just hey turn in Pro playing in my seven Signature Events probably all he’s

Definitely he’s qualified for three of the majors the brti Bri is the easiest to qualify so he should qualify for that with a couple more High finishes he is hot right now so I don’t know I I don’t know the other thing I think being an Alabama guy which

You know JT is the head of the Alabama guy you know they had Nick Sabin on I turned the volume off when they had him on a phone call but at the PGA event I I just couldn’t do it um that being said being an Al abama guy I don’t see him

Going to live because of that those just it seems like we haven’t said will he go uh and we haven’t there’s no guarantee that Liv would even offer a contract it would have to become from they have to relegate somebody presumably or stick them on Ram’s team or something but

There’s another reason here we went over a few shows ago um if you’re a young guy so if you’re the a prototypical top amateur golfer in the world and you’re recognized as such so you’ve been playing that well then live is a place for you and and Darkstar may be a little

Hesitant on oh I don’t know how it’s going to work out and that’s fair but I I’ll tell you how it’s going to work out it’s it’s going to work out for you there’s there is I cannot foresee a future if you keep playing well as a 20

22 year old guy that you don’t get to be you don’t have status to the majors wherever you’re playing four years from now that’s a that’s a 98% probability and that’s those are good odds yeah so and I hope people in his Camp parents whoever he chooses as an agent are

Speaking to him like this cuz one of the things I I I do want to mention he’s putting grade he shot 29 now regardless of whether you’re playing on a putt putt course 29 under is still 29 under and he putted great as he has been one thing

About showing up as an amateur to a PJ event like that you’re freed up I got nothing to play for I I can’t I’m not winning any money it’s I I have no pressure on me so the so the advantage obviously that I’m talking about going to live is again under contract your

Putter is freed up as we saw with a Taylor G who again putted fabulous and let’s make the comparison with Cameron Smith who was the greatest putter on the planet two years ago uh now all of a sudden you’re getting married you’re moving on in life

To a another level of life life and a little frustration a little trouble with the putter you know somebody needs to explain to Nick that life happens Nick and um yeah so you have you have you have to go pro that’s number one where you do it we’re trying to lay out the

Pluses and minuses for you so you can make the best informed decision that’s a good point you know we’re saying Pro it’s just a matter of which there’s two choices right I I’ll give you the other frosting on the cake and I hope his parents and Nick himself but

Particularly the parents cuz he’s 20 and I’m guessing they’re going to be in his ear and he’s going to listen to them and he should um in addition to whatever a professional advice he might be getting I would go with the parental advice first Nick and then follow your own you

Know internal Compass but where are you going to get mentoring where is that going to happen on the PGA tour where it’s Cutthroat let’s it has to be and that’s good that’s you know that’s the kind of sport it is it’s awesome it’s fun to watch as

A fan but you know and they are gentlemen to each other by and large so yeah you you do have friendships and colleagues and collegial conversations on the putting green and the practice area and the sure but not like live you want to go and be on I mean he’s let’s

Say he can go on be John ROM’s team because we know John has openings Nick you can go play golf on a team with John ROM who’s won two majors and is you know arguably the top player in the world right now and that opens you up to Phil michelson’s tutelage and

Greg Norman’s tutelage that’s what I’m saying we’ve we’ve said this in an episode before it’s a great time to say it again if you’re an if you’re a 20-year-old I mean lives the place if I were 20 and I had that chance and it would be pretty clear to me and my only

Hesitation would be to get some really good advice from people who have a good ability to see Over the Horizon at what’s coming and I gotta tell you I cannot if you’re three years from now and you’re still good Nick you’re 23 and you’re good the

Majors need you more than you need them you can’t have a major and call it that if the top players in the world aren’t there the majors it’s not lost on the majors that that’s the case so they that’s why Rah going to live uh to me

And that surprised me but to me that that really does tip it and now you you have to have him there and a proof of that you have to have him with the majors right because you can’t not have Rah and call it a major now he’s exempt

So it’s not a perfect example um if he weren’t exempt it would be a perfect example but he’s not but Rory put the dot on it for us Rory comes out almost immediately after Ram goes to live and says well he’s certain he’s going to

Play in the rider cup that’s not even a question oh I I gee I didn’t wow was that quick for Rory at least it was a it was a question a minute ago now it’s not a question at all and you can’t have Rory and John be on one side of the

Equation and the European Rider Cup team says well you know the heck with those guys that’s not our tradition that’s not our rules so we’ll just play without Rory and John well no you can’t do that because then it’s not not not for the obvious reason that the fans are

Thinking which is well it wouldn’t even be a rider cup nobody would watch true but that before that even major reason or significant reason is it it’s no longer an All-Star Game your two best players aren’t there it’s it’s it’s not a quality event anymore you don’t have a

Top event anymore you don’t have the best players you have Fillin nobody wants Fillin players so Nick that I I think the mentoring thing and Darkstar get in here I know you want to get in but the mentoring thing means a lot and I want you to weigh that because that

Can Vault your career in a real quick and the other thing no matter what people think golf is a global game now you’re going to have multiple people outside the United States that are going to be top players there obviously there already are you still have Ramen Rory I

Think two and three and they’re obviously not in the United States um so it’s becoming a global game and you’re that train is that train has left the station so you you can get on board or you can sit there in this us Centric Golf Market and

And it’s it’s going to you know like I said that they’ve been finding money under the the couch cushions and and I don’t see the us being the center of golf much longer well it still is but you can grow up anywhere in the world and be a top

Golfer and they’re and uh Rory and Ron provve that as well as many others um but they come to the United States to play because both those guys live here um and in John’s case he played college golf here the but this the you know the financial Packers of either tour have

Come to realize obviously live started there they know Greg Norman has already seen the future long ago and the future is arrived they need to Stage events worldwide why because the Western culture Nations the Western golf Count’s demographic is aging out it just is you can’t fix that the

You just can’t the the average PGA dieh hard fan not every fan but the core fan that you identify as your persona when you’re in the marketing department that’s who we’re marketing to that person is 72 years old and Darkstar you’re a physician what when do men die typically what age on

Average I think it’s still 74 and a 74 75 unfortunately but that’s the way it is so you look at that and you’re like uh that means our average fan has an average lifespan of two more years on this planet before they go off and get to play golf every day at austa

Yes well then if I’m the marketing guy if I’m the CMO ah that concerns me greatly we need to go where there’s some fans that are not 72 and still keep our 72 we love them but you know we got to go to Singapore we got to go to Australia we

Got to go and and Australia has a similar demographic but that’s an untapped Market we got to but we got to go to Hong Kong we got to go to Singapore we got to go to these places we got to figure out a way to do

Something in India the we we just have to and that that is the way to maybe keep the sport at the top otherwise it’s just going to degrade over time right and and you talk about the demographics also the United States no country in the world has radically changed since 2008

As far as the people what the people are doing than the United States without question yeah video games has just changed everything 180 degrees I mean it’s just completely different um it’d be I’d be the one of the not first that’s not true but I would in my top

Five questions for Nick Dunlap as a 20-year-old I’d say you where where do you see video games fitting into the competitive landscape when you were coming through you know middle school and high school sports here in America in South Carolina and Alabama where he spent his time he was a football player

And a baseball player in American football in addition to this golf thing and pretty good at it apparently um and that would be really good question I’d love to ask him about Jun you know Little League Baseball particularly um you know what would what the kids look like when you were

10 ah and and how much time do you guys spend talking about fortnite and other top games FIFA and all these other things that the kids are doing instead of going like like Nick did and go to the driving range and become a great player they’re they’re doing other

Things in addition to that some of the time but it’s a big deal but are they turning on the TV and watching golf when they have a minute or they watching some other sport right and and you bring up those points and to Echo and get deeper

On Nick Dunlop you know he was homeschooled he spent a lot more time probably playing and practicing golf than your average you know high school kid well not high school but your average grade school kid in Alabama right so he had a lot more time to

Practice he spent a lot more time with his parents he spent a lot of time with adults and adult golfers which puts him as a 20-year-old more in the um vein of a 25 30-year-old when it comes to his experience his knowledge of the game yeah maybe it’s just maturity level yeah

He did just win a professional event in his sport as a 20y old and to Echo my other point it is a world game so you’re not just competing against a bunch of kids from the country club as you were in the 60s and70s who could afford to

Play golf now you’re competing against you know the entire nation of South Korea Australia and a lot of people in you know the Asian rim and you know Canada South America it’s it’s it is a global game there’s going to be a lot more competition strike when the iron is hot

I I see it that way and I I you know it’ll be interesting to see what he does and and I well we’ll make those predictions before the show ends which it’s going to end soon not because we’re out of things to say but because we’re out of time um

The the the chance to Mentor I think you that I mean to me that’s the biggest point and oh by the way yeah you’ll get 10 or 15 million well let’s let’s all remind ourselves what that means financially as a 20-year-old you’re all set no it’s not a $100 million Nike

Contract Rory Tiger but you know 10 15 and how much of that will he be able to hang on to after taxes let’s say he can hang on to six or seven or eight net depending on the amount right and how they structure it um you know you put and he’s 20 he

Doesn’t need the money so he puts 6 seven8 million away with a good Financial team you call us Nick we’ll help you with that um because that’s critical you got to have a great guy a great person doesn’t have to be a guy great person running your finances for you and

Putting it in the right places for your age and all that stuff so he can then go out and as Darkstar loves to talk about and we’re going to let him talk about it right now again what does that do for your game when you don’t have to worry

About money ever again in your life you got 7 million in Investments you’re 20 by the time you’re 30 that seven will not be seven anymore it’ll be significantly more than that and you’re you’re cruising for the rest of your life you could do that besides the

Mentoring but tell us what that does for your game darkar we don’t have to worry about the money yeah it it well not only does it free up your swing and free up your putting but you’re not even thinking about not shooting away from a

Flag and so I think who it was it was Burns who was um Sam bur water toys yeah double double right so my point about Sam Burns here is his swing was freed up to go at the pin on 17 but his game’s not in a position in other words you

Know he took I’m sure a lot of time off after the Ryder Cup he played over in Hawaii and I’m sure he enjoyed himself in Hawaii now it’s like oh now I’m in the hunt on tournament I want I can’t let this amateur win I got I’m going at

The flag but in the back of my mind my game’s not ready to go for the flag he should have hit in the middle of the green but he’s thinking I’m Sam Burns I’m going to beat this amateur oh but Sam my game in the back his mind my

Game’s not there right now so um yeah he clear it’s a it’s a freed up situation but I I I just want to Circle back to one of the advantages that Nick had he’s been playing well putting great and the other Pros really weren’t in top

Form so it’s a it’s it’s a perfect storm and that’s how you win that’s how Sports Go you know you got to take opportunity super tight he won by a shot which is TP typical so you go out back over all 72 holes and you know where here’s a shot

Here here’s a shot there um for sure I I I I love the idea of having money in the bank uh and I love the idea of mentoring underneath a top uh guy a top guy which he will even if he’s not on rah’s team as you say go to dinner with Phil

Mikkelson go to dinner with Greg nor go to dinner with any of those guys DJ there’s a long list cam Smith I mean you got to be kidding it’s unbelievable you talk putting with Taylor gu gu knows how to putt talk putting Talk Shop making with Bubba Watson I mean it’s just it’s

A stunning uh opportunity where that didn’t exist five years ago I mean you couldn’t do that as a pro and I nobody knows cuz it hasn’t happened yet we’d have to go ask you know maybe one of the young South Americans um you know what does it mean

To to be able to do that I mean even getting a like a grinder perspective from Kevin naah I would find very informative extremely I mean Kevin’s a grinder and he’s he’s made it work he’s gotten himself to a pretty good financial position and won a few times

And all that and just a lot a lot a lot to learn quickly and then you know yes we’re all going to come together as one big happy family under NCO anyway so I’m hoping he goes in that direction for the mentoring thing mostly well I I don’t

Know that and he is like I said I think he’s very mature for his age he did hit a ball um at the American Express in the middle of a lake I think on the seventh hole I saw a highlight and he bounced back well also in the US amateur this

Year in the um qualifying rounds in the stroke play rounds he was way back initial I think he struggled he was a few over I can’t recall exactly I’m pretty sure he was a few over after seven holes like he was like four over after seven holes or seven over after

Four holes and he made a great comeback so he’s got the maturity level to come back and keep his head and his wits about him so I I mean overall I like him as a player I think he’s going to be successful wherever he goes but

Obviously we both agree it’s time to go now and are we ready for predictions because the clock’s ticking yeah we’re going to get out so predict go ahead I think here I I was just thinking and I was trying to think off the top of my

Head I I I really think at his age he’s kind of at that stage where he’s going to go to the PJ tour but I think he’s going to try to manipulate his SST his uh schedule where if Alabama if he thinks Alabama’s got a chance to play in

The NCA Championship he wants to win that so I think he’s going to play in Augusta as an amateur he’s going to play it Alabama and the day that Alabama’s eliminated he’s going to turn pro which probably leaves him four or five Signature Events still and um the PGA

And the US Open so I I think he’s probably not turning pro until late this spring uh I think he’s gonna play in Augusta and play for Alabama yeah and I that’s a good analysis because I think you’re right I think uh when I weigh it all out even

Though I I would I would advise him to go to take the live offer if there is one and then he could time it I mean he could defer that probably I’m sure I’m sure I’m reasonably confident that they could negotiate that so maybe it doesn’t matter from the timing point of view

Which way he goes live or PG tour assuming that it even matters uh you know that deal could be announced tomorrow we don’t um but I I’m guessing and it’s just a I’m just reading te’s which we like to do here um because people don’t usually just rush to a microphone and

Tell you what they’re thinking and what they’re going to do I think he’s going to listen to his golf coach at Alabama who he’s known since he was 10 so he trusts that guy uh probably I think he’s first and foremost going to listen to his parents uh they’re Alabama people I

And I think with the usam win and now going to uh Masters that they’re going to have that the the major itis is going to kick in and that’s going to be the point that kills the deal for live which is you got to play in the majors and the

Way to do that is to stay where you are that’s the best known path to get to the majors and you’re and as dark’s already pointed out you’re going to play in the Signature Events you can still make a bunch of money if you play well you can

Still make that same 10 million so that that guy from the thinking man show that B Team guy yeah you know you don’t have to do that you can still make the same money and stay where you so I think that’s what’s gonna happen they’re going to rationalize their way into the PGA

Tour and the timing will be as dark Darkstar described now what I hope they catch the show or one of his friends does and say Hey listen the mentoring thing Nick don’t don’t underestimate what that’s worth that knowledge is unbelievable and I don’t I don’t know that the Nicholas’s are going to invite

You down to Palm Beach for a weekend if they do do that but I think under the wing of a major winner who cares about you because he has invested in you as a teammate or as a Liv mate so to speak and they’re still US versus them

Mentality I don’t think you can put a price tag on that for a 20-year-old so I I hope he does that yeah you know but he probably won’t probably I don’t think he will all right well take us out we’re gonna wrap it up here audience uh as always great being

Here Darkstar anything closing data points you want to throw in here that we missed you know the only thing I I just looked up the Alabama golf schedule no super courses just tournaments but uh it’ll keep him busy I I think he’s going to stay busy play at

Augusta uh and and I agree the the the world around him at Alabama is kind of anti- so I don’t see him going there yeah I think that’ll I’m gonna yeah I’m calling that major itis I don’t know that they’re anti- but you may be right but I just think they’re

Going to lean in the direction and that and then you can talk yourself into yeah you’ll play great don’t worry they’re going to overlook the mentoring thing and I I hope they don’t and I hope this information gets to him if he’s not already thinking about it or if somebody

Makes a phone call certainly Phil pick up a phone John could pick up a phone somebody could pick up a phone and get and I will say this his caddy um who was a former Alabama player who’s a few years older than him is probably also a

Good Menor I hope he sticks around because by the way if if Nick’s uh hanging out on the college circuit for another six months hey Nick can I borrow your caddy you know there’s got to be a lot of guys looking to borrow is caddy and that sometimes doesn’t work out well

For the caddy coming back because he won the PGA Tour event is that what you’re saying well you you borrow Nick’s caddy and then all of a sudden whoever player X takes Nick’s caddy and wins once or twice or wins a signature event all of a sudden oh yeah

Well I’m staying Nick um you know I’m staying with golfer X because you know I won a few times yeah yeah I hear and maybe that I don’t know that Dy uh maybe he’s a great green reader that could be helping or did help obviously that matters phenomenally um all right well

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30 Comments

  1. Nick Dunlap is still only ranked 3rd in the Amature rankings behind Gordan Seargent, shouldn't he be ranked 1st whe he's 68th in the OWGR?

  2. I'd be shocked if LIV was interested in Nick. Nothing against the guy, I like him, but he still needs to prove himself. That was Nicks 4th time playing in a pro event and he missed the cut the other 3 times. His price tag is fluff at this point. Obviously LIV initially brought in some weaker players to fill the field… however they were essentially walk ons. This play would make no sense for LIV. He's a cinderella story, however the general public as a collective has a tendency to get obsessed in the moment. I wouldn't be surprised if Nick misses the cut in his next pro event and then all of a sudden the general public thinks he's a bust. But as "we" should know… golf doesn't work that way. Which is exactly why the OWGR ranking Nick 63 is ridonculous.

    I'm rooting for Nick going forward, but I theorize that the course they played was favorable to Nick's game. I theorize the tougher courses maybe more challenging for Nick vs the field. I''m just not going to get ahead of myself. A player who I theorize may be a good prospect relatively early on going forward is Aberg, but he's had several good finishes in a short period of time. With Nick we just have one on an atypical pro course…. his amateur stats are impressive though

  3. I watched Nick win the USGA junior am in person, and I can tell you he's the real deal. He's an exceptional talent, and had a great summer in the elite Am series. I agree, a deal between the PGA Tour and LIV is going to inevitably happen, so if he happens to get a LIV offer, why not take it? I don't think those big signing bonuses will be around forever. Strike while the iron is hot.

  4. 4 American players from the most recent Ryder Cup team lost to an amateur in a 72 hole stroke play event. Zach Johnson truly believes life is like a box of chocolates.

  5. 3 or 4 millions if Nick plays well on the pga tour…"If he plays well" Exactly, that´s a one thing you do not need to do in LIV… play well.

  6. The only interesting thing is he withdrew from the Farmers which lead to LIV questions. Otherwise now that hes qualified for the signature events. Id recommend he stays on the pgatour and im a massive LIV fan. The pgatour will rally around this youngster and get him sweet sponsorship deals. Hes only 20, pgatour fields are the weakest in decades, big money events are available to him and the pgatour will market him like Jordan Speith as the new blue eyed boy. Unless LIV offers him a huge multi year deal

  7. PGA tour and the OWGR are robbing the public of true major championships America is always going to be the centre of excellence for golf but for golf to grow it needs to be showcased worldwide LIV at least see this not like the PGA tour imagine if the tour had played events worldwide there would be no LIV

  8. Nick should go to the PGA Tour. He will be playing in the elevated events and b/c the OWGR is flawed, his ranking is sure to climb even higher. He can then make the leap to LIV when his bid is higher. The other big factor is endorsements. He will make more money from endorsements on the PGA Tour and until that changes with big team sponsors is another big factor

  9. Very good point on OWGR ranking basically a popularity pole. PGA needs to clean house in C suite and get LIV deal done

  10. this is how the owgr has skewed all the points towards the pgat. Dean B. won 12.6 and 11.9 points for his wins at Joburg open and SA open. Louis won 11.0 and 14 points for his two wins. Joaquin N. won 14.7 points for the Aussie open. Christian B., who was in 3/4 of the South Africa events that the pgat trolls declared were weak fields, took 2nd at Amex and got 33.4 points. The winner, Nick got 55 points which is more than half of the majors (100 points for a major). I'm not sure how he jumps 4000 spots with 55 points in one tournament, but that's another subject. Bottom line is the owgr needs to be flushed down the toilet.

  11. The John Deere is not a hit and giggle event. Don't demean that field just because it might be considered weak. You still have to play good golf to win & if you look at its history, no matter if you were at Oakwood CC, or the TPC Deere run; the winner that week still beat 155 other golfers and includes players that went on to win major events not in the Quad Cities.

  12. Nick turn pro, get a big sponsorship deal – because your swing is not an Aberg (that will last) – it's just ok. You won on a no name tour against a few good/great players who are just warming up.

  13. Nick Dunlop should go to LIV because as a member of a team he will get monitoring and advice that can not be had anywhere else. See how David Puig who was the #2 amateur in the world at 20 when he joined LIV as an amateur. He is now a force in LIV to be reckoned. The PGA tour is every man for himself league. The landscape is littered with great amateurs that didn't last long on tour even with great expectations out of college. Remember this win was in a very weakened filed not like the filed that Phil beat to win as an amateur.

  14. I do believe this guy is a top 50 pro Right now; as he is actually better than many guys who are in the top 5o now.

    He should go.

    I think Harvey said:
    A great putter is a match for anyone.

    And yes future injuries have to be considered. Zalatoris.

    I think the suits felt immediately the same way Rory felt about Rahm needing to be in the event. But can any golf show one time avoid Rory altogether ?

    Guys like nick can find mentors anywhere. Jack would mentor nick.

    I do agree with you about the concerns of the golf demographic. But I will say as happens often a friend of mine just got the golf bug big time in his 40s. He now plays a lot, keeps up, is getting his kids into the sport. Point is: golf may struggle to get young people but eventually those people become old; and many times golf starts to appeal to them later in life.

    Golf needs to get younger but it does also need to maintain that sophistication that makes older folks move away from the nba and nfl and other sports to follow golf more; as has been happening for decades.

    That being said it is a constant undeniable issue that the average golf viewer has two years of life left on average.

    Mentors is big but money is waaaaay bigger; for the reasons DS likes to talk about: frees you up.

    Not sure how Alabama feels today about LIv but Y’all did not mention this kids agent has a ton of players on his roster that play on LIV.

    I do think the kid should do what B team says. But At the end of the day DS is probably spot on: he plays as an amateur through the Masters and the NC double As and then stays on the owgr prison system of sorts that is the pga tour so he can play more majors. Ironically Majors which are diluting themselves of top talent by choice. But that’s not here nor there.

  15. Other than your ranking comments you're just dreaming up gripes. In his interviews he talks about the pga players that have mentored him so you have zero idea what you're talking about. you go on about mentoring as if you know something lol.
    He'll be set with sponsorships. you're broke and have limited earning potential. He isn't. He talks about taking his opportunity to go on the PGA tour and whether he will take it or go back to school. He isn't going to play on the LIV golf tour and travel the world, silly.

  16. Problem is, he did it WITHOUT a technical full field…. a lot of the top players were NOT THERE!! they are on LIV!!!!

  17. I know the implication is questioning how the LIV guys are falling down the rankings…but Dunlap is better than 68th in the world. The dude can move it, and he stared down 2 time Major Champion and a 5 time winner and finished on top.

  18. Why would you say something stupid like he’s the 68 best player in the world when everyone knows the OWGR is a joke because of all the great players on the LIV, now why would you say that? Do you want people like me to subscribe to your channel or not?

    Start saying the right thing.

  19. Why turn down a guaranteed sum of dollars that may take him 10 years to earn on the pga, when who knows – in a couple of years they will be co-sanctioned 'global tour' anyway…?

  20. hey whats wrong with the couuntry clubbers coming up thru AM golf to pro golf, this burn hits too close 🤣

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