NBA Legends and former teammates Udonis Haslem and Mike Miller welcome NBA Legends and Host of the Knuckleheads Podcast, Quentin Richardson and Darius Miles! Listen to hear their takes on the top players in the league, WILD stories about the OGs, including the night UD went to jail, their All-Star predictions, and SO MUCH MORE!
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Chapters:
0:00-1:19 Intro
1:19-5:59 The Young Clippers
5:59-7:06 The game has changed
7:06-7:46 If Miles was in the NIL Era
7:46-10:39 The origin of the “Knucklehead”
10:39-11:25 Nate Robinson stole a car?
11:25-13:48 In-game celebrations
13:48-15:31 The new norm in the NBA
15:31-16:14 Guarding Karl Malone
16:14-17:11 Factor Ad
17:11-18:33 From HS to the League
18:33-19:29 Mike’s agent protected him
19:29-20:28 Working out with Q
20:28-22:07 Boeheim didn’t like Mike
22:07-24:41 Talking East St. Louis
24:41-31:06 Gun violence
31:06-31:37 “It’s okay to elevate”
31:37-36:47 The Siakam trade
36:47-37:53 What does Miami need to do
37:53-39:55 Orlando gonna make any moves?
39:55-40:28 Jahmahl Mosley was Q’s host
40:28-42:42 23/24 NBA All-Stars
42:42-43:29 Trae Young disrespect
43:29-46:13 Back to Paolo
46:13-49:15 More All-Star discussion
49:15-51:17 All-Star voting
51:17-52:31 Philly isn’t winning a title
52:31-56:37 Predicting the Final
56:37-57:55 Shout out Russ
57:55-1:00:03 Mike likes Denver
1:00:03-1:02:01 Retire T-Mac’s Jersey?
1:02:01-1:04:53 Going to camps
1:04:53-1:06:01 A canceled HS clash
1:06:01-1:08:12 The national HS tournament
1:08:12-1:11:39 The young D-Wade
1:11:39-1:13:01 When D-Wade got loud
1:13:01-1:18:38 UD got arrested
1:18:38-1:22:37 UD paid for the lambs
1:22:37-1:23:52 The Rise of UF
1:23:52-1:28:45 Best shooters in the league
1:28:45-1:29:30 Letting it fly from 3
1:29:30-1:30:44 UD scouting report
1:30:44-1:39:23 UD and Q picking fights
1:39:23-1:40:38 James Johnson
1:40:40-1:45:20 Spo’s new contract
1:45:20-1:49:30 Podcast advice
1:49:30-1:50:20 OG’s advice
1:50:20-1:50:45 Wrapping up
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Yeah it is a good fit they play Fast hton plays fast Pascal’s Elite transition like they are going to be better they’re going to be tough to stop but put up defense All right we are back it is the ogs and we got a special show today we got the 2000 draft in a choke hold yes sir well I ain’t going to say yes sir I wouldn’t I wouldn’t in the [ __ ] but I I watch y same class same we got to the
Choke ho man uh obviously happy to have q Rich D miles leading of the Knuckleheads podcast which is Elite if you haven’t seen it check it out it is Elite man we appreciate y’all coming on here oh look you already know OG’s we had to pull up the OG’s like I said we
Have the we have the 2000 draft into the choke cold um you guys both drafted with by the Clippers all right third and 18th that team oh here we go we got some video of the Knuckleheads go um but when you guys did when you guys did that and
And the and you guys were with the Clippers that was an exciting time like that team to me yeah obviously being in the league watching it like that team had everything hell yeah like it was young it was Talent entertaining like talk about talk about that start with
With the Clippers I mean obviously as a rookie you’re trying to get your feet and you’re you know trying to figure out your game but what went wrong there why did why did it not work you man we we ain’t had a right type of ownership if we had Steve balber
Who they got now we’ probably sign two max players back then with all of us being young like Jeff welman who’s now running the magic he was the uh assistant general manager back then he basically helped draft both of us and like he was somebody that we both talked
To a lot during that year and I talk to him now obviously with him being in Orlando me working for the magic we was talking one time he was just like C you realize that with everything we had going on it never even got talked about because that’s just not what Donald
Sterling did he didn’t even he didn’t sign rookies after that we would get four years and guys would go like he never signed guys so it was never even a discussion to actually add to what we had you know what I’m saying like we we had the ability in the salary cap space
To sign two Max guys during that time we had D me L Corey Keon all these young dudes they could have had two Max dudes with that yeah that that team was so fun to watch they was loaded they was loaded outon man like how how you know on
Screen it looked like we was just the Buddy Buddy which we was but how competitive we was towards each other was like our practic was crazy prac our practice was crazy bro crazy I can imagine crazy the bench was better than the starters that’s how we felt yeah we
Kicking their ass every day they get WIS in practice they get no wins we would go weeks and weeks talking about that like y’all boys ain’t can’t even get a w up in here every day Lamar used to want to play with the second TW we used to be
Running ass probably try to go play one onone after take it ass let go play one onone you know they from New York yeah that’s just every day [ __ ] talking a jent used to be like hey man hey KH hey shut up man let’s just who real about to fight like remember El
Baylor had to break me and Cory up me and Cory like Cory M first of all y know he’s strong too strong we getting into we all up in each other face doing I think El come walking up Cory there Matrix this ass like hold
On bro you can’t just th El like that that’s a strong fight El would have stood a chance boy that was a strong ass fight but we was we was the bottom of the burel like you know we was geeked to get drafted but we did still realize
That we was on the worst team in the NBA they won 17 games before we got there saying so we got there and we won 31 you know what I’m saying our first year we added elt we take showers out the practice bro where you practicing at we had to go
Home practi at Junior College South uh La South W Junior College yall see that new Arena they’re building now CRA and this and the Lakers still was practicing in the the arena n the Lakers had their own practice facility so they had their own facility at that time and y’all
Practice at a j we practice at a j bro we get out of practice like you put even pulling up to practice or leaving kids like college kids is they like yo look at the car they hitting they saying what’s up L them all cars getting broken
Into and all that it was legit crazy I see why I see why the be whipping on the lers ass these days the weight room look like a closet I see why the clip be whipping on the lers ass nowaday we get back I love watching them win them games
That’s crazy we play our dudes in there like shout out Steve balber though boy he flipped the table I’m telling you like that D the in it dome and the arena and everything the really like like I like what doc did when he got the when
He kind of got in power over there and La the way he changed the the the arena and made it cuz the whole time we was there stap Center always look like the Lakers home regardless it was our home game or not when doc came he was the
First person that came and made them really change the Aesthetics on on game day when I saw I was like d they covered all the Lakers stuff up and put up you know the C stuff like that was I was like that’s big like now you feel like
It’s your Arena like we in there playing with purple chairs and Lakers jerseys and all of this and that like he had them cover that up and make all clipp of stuff so that was good but like Steve balber he came in and flipped the
[ __ ] tape I ain’t going to lie to you it’s it’s crazy you say that stuff cuz we’re old but we’re not that old we’re OG’s but we’re still you know mean the fact that we’ve only we’ve done this for 20 some years now look how much the game’s changed not just financially but
Players and Arenas and owners and like Everything’s changed talk about the state of the game now and and where it’s where it’s at Players wise Financial wise compared to was when we came in there because I think that’s a big thing to talk about I love the game cuz I I
Just love basketball uh I hate the defenses out of it like I was just watching the uh 76 and Denver game the other day they had like 70 points at halftime you know what I’m saying in our games like it was 70 or 80 point games
Or it was hard for guys to really score 100 points because defense was it so I don’t really like the defense that got took out the game like that but uh I just love basketball so I love how they they rocking you seeing big man you seeing 73 guys dribbling the ball you
See what Joe lmb doing is just crazy right now he’s dominating but he’s doing it looking like a guard all his moves is like guard type mve he ain’t post up one time [ __ ] I think if D miles came out now that was like a man listen all that
The way he played if he came out nil money you would have came out if they would have got that n nil money or you would went to college and got that check no if I can go straight High School I was out so you have still went to you
Still went pro at the time was the highest pick out of high school yeah you’re still in Pro even even if you would even if you would have got a chance to go to college and make a million or two and let me I could experience this college lifestyle make a
Couple million and then still go pro yeah I didn’t want to go to college you a want to [ __ ] with that N I ain’t really want to want to go to SCH could have just did what I did you could have majored in basketball I went I went to
Depal I took a visit to depal and was like could have Majed in basketball hold on what happen I was his host okay let me ask this so where this where this started at Westchester Wester High School of high school his that was they celebration oh okay so like I used
To make you go to the games cuz he was trying to go to high school he still going you know you got to watch you he 19 he still trying to go stuff look man look look all right now I’m cool I was too old for that
Like so what it was Southwest Junior College was like five minutes when we practiced was like five minutes from Westchester from the high school so like it was like to go from from practice to his house in Marina delr you going to drive right past the high school like so
We would go we start going to their practices we going to their games then we got to know him a little bit we start pulling up their practice practicing playing with him and F like so we [ __ ] with her I knew her sign Assan
Adam Camp he was he was a junior when I was F to be a senior so he worked at camp and so I knew a sign and so we started rocking with them they like yo man like they doing it in the game we like oh they turning up they was like
One of the best teams in the country too though they was like top top 10 top five team in the country too so we like we going to the game stuff it’s like okay it’s cool it it was turned up you know we watching them play against the best
Teams in the city and all that stuff they doing their stuff so one time they like man y’all need to do our stuff in the game you know what I’m saying we like all right so you know he dunked and [ __ ] you know what I’m saying all the
Time so he was doing it more I had to I had to I had to diversify my [ __ ] like look I shoot threes and [ __ ] I can’t just be waiting for every dunk when I don’t get that many dunks this [ __ ] get four five dunks a game that what he do
But he he started the doing it every single time we do something because like I said I get my dunks I’m getting my three highlights and you know I’m doing it throughout the game this boy just start doing it every time he get a bucket like I’m talking about like every time he
Ding that much I was getting lay that [ __ ] went crazy though no that [ __ ] went crazy we had no clue bro like if it was like now like how you know social media and all that [ __ ] like the first time that we I feel like that we
Really saw somebody else do it on TV was when Nate Robinson and it’s funny cuz he future he became my teammate and all this [ __ ] but I can remember us being in the in in the locker room at Staple Center and it was a early game that day
And you know Pack 12 pack 10 or whatever our West be playing on TV early games College he tip dunked on Channon fry this is Washington against Arizona and I didn’t even know who he was or what the [ __ ] was going on at time but all I
Remember little bitty [ __ ] go up tip dunk off the rim and he come up off that thing I said oh y I said Y and he was like you know like when I get to meet him when like we got when I was in Phoenix I got traded to the Knicks and
We we together he got drafted by the Phoenix and we was in the trade together so we at the press conference together Nate couldn’t contain himself like he was like sitting here with me but he wanted to tell me like I met you before like you don’t even know it like we had
Back to our rookie year me and D went to Gary Peyton charity game in Seattle Nate is a kid a teenager then him and his brother they stole a car and and drove down to the Key Arena and got got into the Key Arena and we ended up giving
Them like they he had de he had both of our jerseys from that game in his house Hold Up N have stole a car to go to the game stole a car to go downtown to the game to Key Key Arena and after the game we see l n
We don’t even know him but like autograph Jersey give them to him all these years later we go play Seattle when I’m my first my first year in New York we go back to Seattle go to his crib his mama got them joints up in the
In the frame living room no and I I want to say like we we started celebrating we we not the first to start celebrating yeah cuz like when we got to the league it was still a old school league where a lot of teams didn’t [ __ ] with us
Celebrate yeah like like Jerry SLO used to be like and then you know guys used to be in the locker room the coaches be like yeah don’t let Dem them get out here and get to doing this and stuff but we seeing it elevate to now seeing how
The the younger guys and everybody celebrating with you know I feel like we got a part of that though but we put something in the game we need that especially for us it made it fun because like I said nobody else in the league was celebrating like us but now you see
You see NBA games and you see all these guys like everybody got their sign you know what I’m saying I feel like we we a part of that even though we weren the first to but y’all are a part of that and y’all a part of history when
It comes to that part of the headbands baggie shorts we part you know what I’m saying the caderie the celebration that was for the culture we know what it was you know what I’m saying it wasn’t for everybody so if it ain’t for you then stay your ass over there you know what
I’m saying that was for everybody but for me and us the the craziest part of that though is like like you said we we not that far removed but like that’s literally we got drafted in 2000 this 24 you know what I’m saying so like this
Was a long time ago until like now be in 2024 and you got all of these different ways that people can reach out to you like people send crazy photos of like them doing the joint from like grade school or send you know they can send
Videos on social media now so it just be like yo you we really had a whole [ __ ] lot of people running around hitting their self in the head like and it know what it meant [ __ ] a race or anything I’m talking about it be Asians it be people from overseas everything
It’s just like yo that’s crazy to know that it really spread that far like without like you know what I’m saying social media like that it just like really got around y’ had a movement bro team was a Vibe too yeah y had a movement like they how a f five had
Movement in college like y’all had a movement in the pros you know what I’m saying like I said the baggy shorts the headband The Hip Hop the culture we was the only team like that at that point like you know in 2000 like they had that many teenagers
And we the youngest team ever at that point we were the youngest youngest well for people though like that are watching us like cuz now if you’re watching NBA basketball it’s kind of the norm right like you’re looking at the Orlando you’re looking at a lot of
Teams that have you know five players in the last five years or lottery picks back then though like I was the only rookie on a team when I got drafted so now so now when you go to like that that’s that’s why it was such a Vibe
Though that’s why I was like to me as as a player that’s was playing against y’all I was like cheering I was like this is dope right and y’all were doing that stuff having fun cuz but you said earlier was true like I remember celebrating one time uh my rookie year
And I did I made a three or something and I did something and and and Doc pulled me aside name Millan said something after the game he’s like yo what’s up with young fell celebrating after his three like act like he’s been there before now think about that where the game
Gone shim like back then you couldn’t do it man we ain’t listening Nate Nate told me he was going to draft me he a draft me literally though what you said like when he brought up like we knew desan Stevenson was like us straight out of
High school young dude so we would when we play each other we would hang out talk to each other he was like yo coach Sloan don’t [ __ ] with that he like he told everybody like nah nah don’t let the [ __ ] do that [ __ ] we like damn like you know coach
Loan was old school chic shorts y’all had the baggies he coach stocked them in the Lo with them goddamn days of dupes they were a [ __ ] to play though those guys oh no they could play the ass stock Malone that was the most physical [ __ ] in the world yeah
But that’s we talking about apples we talking about these boys with headbands and baggy shorts and we talking about coochie Cutters and oldheads all that [ __ ] on with that shiter time had pass we we got into it with car Malone and old and py and them
Boy with a whooped eye ass let me tell you something man man that’s who y listen I remember when we used to play against Carl Malone and you know remember we used to get together and Michael do used to do the Scout report and we used to sit down and
Go over The Scouting Report when we had to play against car Malone the first thing Michael D used to say on the Scout report is protect yourself damn protect what the [ __ ] that got to do with defense and shots protect yourself that’s the first thing on the sky report
For car Malone protect yourself he will knock your [ __ ] block off with elbow hey I about to say he clear he remember he did that MTI he cleared his whole fronts out yeah that’s the first thing on the Scout report was KY Malone not his sweet ass jump shot not none of his
Moves protect yourself yeah I mean all the fronts and he was concussed to stay in Stay Stay we left he had to stay in Utah couldn’t fly people at home start your new year’s resolution with Factor so you’re ready for the new year Factor ready to eat meal delivery take stress
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It interesting because obviously we’re all aware the gamees Chang the physicality of the game so coming out of East St Louis not going to school you said you’re not going to college [ __ ] it right what was your concerns going into that draft cuz we have concerns leaving
Early back then even right but being in high school being 18 years old talk to me about that that process a little bit cuz I I told him I wasn’t going to I seen Rashad Lewis like was crying that Draft before we went and that spooked me
I remember that that that that that spooked me but when when when my coaches and my a coach and I committed to St John’s Mike jvis even called me was like yeah you lottery so I’m Lottery off of what y’all just seeing my talent and so
Forth on so I got to go to these the few workouts or let them see me to get my my ranking up so my thing was just to just go hard every every single time and just I think I was in this workout with you
In Orlando we were you know we all were wow really okay him uhar Johns was on the side cuz he was hurt a lit workout by the way huh that was a lit workout that was it was going down hell of a workout but I was just trying
To just go super hard cuz I was just trying to get draft I just wanted to get drafted lottery I got a great story for that by the way guys IO first workout I do coming out um I go to Orlando M and we get we
Have four people in the workout and they got three on one end I’m on the other end I’m like what the hell going on around here I find out afterwards my agent I love him awesome agent didn’t want me to work out against People Protected
You I’m saying I said to myself I said what the hell so I get done I talk I call my agent I said like if Orlando serious about draft me they want to see me bump you mean I I know I’m [ __ ] white gu I get it but I have no problem
Going to the action and the next workout we come back it’s this group I’m like oh [ __ ] it’s about to be so you went back for another workout my second workout it was with these guys that time you wasn’t by yourself no it was it was in the
Action we went ones we went twos that [ __ ] was New Jersey had the number one pick and now my my stock then kind of went up cuz you know I’m the Prototype 6 can dribble do do all the stuff so I had they wanted me to do a workout so Q was
There so he was like me and Q stayed together that whole summer so I see him passing coming through cuz he got to go to workouts I’ll be there in Chicago just working out so me and Q worked out together we went so hard at each other where the dude was
Like y’all show y’all like each other did y’all come and we just put our bags on just left out together and hopped in the whip together but it we went so hard at each other like like we didn’t even know each other that’s how that [ __ ]
Supposed to be though and it was just like that it’s funny now cuz I’m an agent so when I go through like I don’t know if there’s a right or wrong answer but my biggest thing with all my guys let’s go get to action like we’re not
Going to trying to protect nobody hide nothing at some point you’re got to somebody ass at some point and if you if you really put the work in and you’re ready to do it like let’s go do it that’s a funny story cuz that work I was
Went overse together we want to we want to go medal for the country yes we did between what was that between seeing freshman year going to college y Jim be bro none of y’all would believe Jim baheim [ __ ] crazy what I couldn’t believe from Syracuse ask Miller he was
On his ass me crazy list me crazy he put me up like the four or the five talking about I couldn’t guard he want him to drible he did not want Miller look Mike took that [ __ ] he got a re came he’s like what the [ __ ] is this he like you
[ __ ] going behind your back with that South Dakota playground [ __ ] I was like we was like what the [ __ ] damn hey be he wasn’t cutting no [ __ ] be was crazy bro I couldn’t believe he was like I was like you know how you see somebody
You I just like I I don’t know what I thought of him I didn’t think he was like that he was nuts that [ __ ] boy practices was crazy practice hard as a [ __ ] and he yelling and going nuts the whole time I had no clue the whole
Time I had I had him on my [ __ ] cuz he told me that time he said man you you got to play the four cuz you can’t play the two or the three I said gosh damn I said you watch any film not at all damn
You didn’t think you could shoot be a shoo guard he didn’t think I could do [ __ ] D he bro it was like he chose Mike I’m I’mma yell at him all the time that was how it was I was like damn I think I think he looked at I think he looked at
Geography map that’s crazy that [ __ ] was crazy but but I had no clue that beim was crazy like that that was the thing that that that [ __ ] threw me up I was like I didn’t I didn’t see this I didn’t see that and out of all people we start
[ __ ] with you you don’t bother nobody I don’t you don’t bother nobody want that’s crazy I got one thing for you de miles so explain to the people at home the difference between St Louis and East St Louis where you from people get that [ __ ] confused they need to understand
There’s a difference I got people in East St Louis I’m going get to I RI both sides of the water cuz I was on both sides of the water but uh I’m from east St Louis which East St Louis is Illinois and St Louis is Missouri
Only thing divided is a a bridge in the Mississippi River so a lot of people you know when they come down they be like don’t go to the east side cuz it’s like a mini Vegas it don’t close to like 6:00 in the morning type stuff and you know
It’s 89 blocks three different ways of just all Hood yeah when you say many Vegas is it like bright lights and [ __ ] like Vegas yeah don’t get confused it Ain like curfew of Vegas yeah it a it ain’t like you can walk around on the Strip like you can ineg you do that
It don’t close so you know if you go to St Louis and you you go out or you you in your night life and stuff St Louis Clos at 2: East St Louis don’t close like some stuff close at 6:00 some stuff close at 10:00 in the morning like so
You can go out to East St Louis and come out the spot and it’s daylight outside I want no action or you can come out and get your ass tied up tell that part of the story de miles tell that’s what the hell they got to
Watch out for I tell the difference from around there you don’t supposed to be around there there it is Ja you from around there don’t be talking don’t be hanging out in St Louis and then late night you be like oh we going where after where after hours we going to
Cross the bridge and going to hang out it you ain’t from there do that it’s two different states and a lot of people don’t know that’s two different states and you know when I start being somebody known worldwide they used to be like yeah you from St Louis so I had to stop
I used to always correct people MH so I had to stop really kind of correcting people cuz then it’s like I got to explain to you like I’m from Illinois I ain’t from Missouri yeah yeah I’m I’m from East South Dakota tough too I think
All I think all about all that’s got the same amount of violence East Side West Side I think east side if you from the East side you didn’t mess with St Louis and if you from St Louis you didn’t mess with the east side it was more a little
Tense but it’s it’s it’s still like that but it’s it’s a little that was what I remember when he first when I first met him he be he used be off that St Louis [ __ ] but kind of came together at some point I was just I was just witnessing it no I
Got people in East St Louis that [ __ ] real boy that [ __ ] real it ain’t no joke and you from the shot so we already understand all every everything that’s going on in Chicago we pick up the paper every day you know what I’m saying it’s almost every other day it’s something
You know gun violence and different things going on in Chicago so I mean we’ve all experienced that growing up on some shape form or fashion it’s affected us you know what I’m saying in different ways whether it be homeboys or whatever the situation but I know it’s affected
You personally you know what I’m saying and you just want to talk about how how gun violence has affected you I mean all of us has been in situations where we had to go to funerals a little too early you know what I’m saying so we don’t
Play with guns you know what I’m saying I don’t play those games I I I yes I do tote fire but I ain’t pulling it out just to show it and and play with it and it’s not a game a gun is not a toy a gun
Is not a toy you know what I’m saying so let’s just talk about how gun violence has affected obviously you you know what I’m saying personally man me losing two brothers uh first one my brother Bernard when I was 12 you know you 12 you don’t really understand everything then my
Brother Lee who was I was really close with and um that was when I was in the league when I was with the Knicks right Knicks 25 so you know what I’m saying then that one you understand stuff more you you more of an adult you know what’s
Going on that one probably hurt more than my my brother Bernard just because I was younger but like just understanding it does how it go man in the in in the hood he he wasn’t into no gang or nothing he was just in the wrong place at the wrong time they were trying
To steal his car and my pops was actually with him so that’s the crazy part like when it happened my pops could like my pops had a bullet through his through his jacket cuz like you know they had him on the ground both of them on the ground and my brother was like
Nah and he just got up and he took the gun from one of them but when he was doing that the other one shot and so like that’s what happened but like that’s just the shot bro like real talk in theuns on the Block just he wasn’t
Doing nothing he went in the garage came out they had the trap on him Drew on him already waiting on them and so [ __ ] that’s how it went down I mean obviously um I’ve been to you know way too many funerals but I think you know obviously
I think when we when it comes to you know those situations and and all that growing up I think for us you know what I’m saying it’s it’s it’s always a it’s a slippery slope cuz you got to go back you got to you know what I’m saying you
Got to bring your people out you know what I’m saying I was always taught when I make it you come back and you pull your people out and you extend the hand to your people but ain’t always in the hood man I just this thing where sometime keeping it
Real go wrong you know what I’m saying you have the best intentions but like you say you can be in the wrong place at the wrong time man I got a lot of love in the city but it only take one knucklehead that’s it it only Tak one
Knuckle head Us coming out just being from the hood what when nipy died it made me it made me realize like man the the most safe I felt the most safest place for me was the most dangerous place for me because when I be in other cities and
Stuff I’m not going through their hoods I don’t know nobody there and if I am I’m with somebody who’s certified so I used to be in the hood and in a hole in the wall spot or a one way in one way out spot and feeling comfortable which
That was the most dangerous place in the world that I could I could be at and once I seen nipy die and it was just like man he just got killed on something that he own his block all the people know him like everybody in East St Louis know me
If I don’t know you I know your mama or your auntie or your cousin or your your brother but that’s like the most dangerous spot for me to the and it had made me grow up a little bit to be like it’s okay to just go somewhere else and
Live and that [ __ ] [ __ ] try to enjoy your life every after every season I was going straight back to East St Louis me too I’m still going straight back to the hood all the time and then when you probably go back to Chicago it’s probably the same you go tap in and you
Know maybe pull up on some of the homies but at the end of the day and I agree with you that was it’s it’s weird what you say is some of those places with the places where we felt the most safe we felt the most at home and the most
Comfortable and everybody in that [ __ ] got a gun everybody and we and we felt the most comfortable in those situation comfortable around that yeah that nipy thing that [ __ ] opened my eyes too I ain’t going to even lie and and I I didn’t know nip but to see him you know
What I’m saying get killed in his own hood when he was so loved respected what he did for the community yeah [ __ ] open up a lot of eyes man so you it’s just a reminder bro like you know what I’m saying we get we make the pro like you
Say this ball did a lot of [ __ ] for us little little basketball and took us all around the world gave us crazy money and afforded us a lifestyle we never dreamed we could have you know what I’m saying but like can’t get caught slipping you can’t forget you know what I’m saying
You got to stay sharp like you know what I’m saying like that’s what that’s what that type of stuff do to you it it it it it give you that little knock like hey this life things still life in bro like I tell people all the time when they
Think like man you straight you made it you like hey bro like nothing about me making the NBA has ever impacted or changed the fact that I’m still a real person I still put my pants on one leg at a time just like everybody else and whatever happened to you can damn sure
Happened to me like don’t think because we you know we NBA we on the TV and you nah boy [ __ ] still real [ __ ] we still got family members is going through life that got [ __ ] going on and you know what I’m saying that people pass all of that
We still get affected impacted by regular everyday [ __ ] like everybody and it’s it’s it’s crazy to have a mentality of like I say the most dangerous place that’s where you the most comfortable at man I’m telling you I go to the club and go straight to the back and put my back
To the wall and get put everything in front of me and I’m so comfortable in that but I shouldn’t have to go put my back to the wall I I got my back regular restaurants bit like restaurant a blast but I ain’t even thinking in my mind the fact that I
Had to come in this [ __ ] and put my back to the wall and make sure nothing behind me that probably mean I shouldn’t be there and some like over the years some of the most craziest things that just could have went left just could have went left that’s why
When I seen nipsy D it was just like man you know how many situation we was in yeah or places we was at or we in the spot and somebody got shot after the spot or it was just it was like man that could have been yeah that could have
Been like us or something would have went left or if them guys might not have been scared of who I was and who I had with me they probably could have tried yeah yeah or anything so you know just for the future guys that come from
Through the hood it’s it’s it’s okay to elevate it’s okay to to live where you don’t hear gunshots every night or it’s okay where folks ain’t getting robbed or selling drugs and doing all that stuff so that’s some good OG advice right there I would say killer you going to
Touch on some of the drugs and violence in South Dakota that you experien yeah man it was it was amazing I made it out the basketball is amazing thing it to be that light uh no speaking of basketball so we fast forward to the day right and we’re talking about um the
State of the game where we’re at there was just a big trade let’s talk about the Pascal seak to Indiana obviously with basketball dudes on here want to get want to touch on that so does that do anything different for them is Indiana in a situation that they can they can now
Contend in the east no yes what is it I I don’t think it elevates them over the Celtics or the 76ers or the Bucks I I feel like it it it didn’t change really really nothing you know I maybe could be wrong I feel like it was
Other spots out there that I I would was a better fit that would you know shuffle the Cs a little bit and one of the spots I was I was cuz hoping for was Dallas I wanted to see like a player like him play with Kyrie and Luca feel like since
Luca been there he’s never had that type of player play with him a versatile guy that can hit the three he can guard multiple positions you need a guy that can guard LeBron or or stand you need a guy that you can match up with KD over
There and um I feel like he have been better in Dallas but I don’t feel like it elevated the Pacers in in a crazy way ke what you got uh I can see what he’s saying the fit in Dallas or whatever but I mean I think it’s a
For me I think it’s a upgrade for Indiana like do it does it put them ahead of Boston no or ahead of you know uh the top teams over there I don’t think it puts them ahead of but I think it puts him in a better position to
Compete I mean you know what I’m saying Pascal is everything he just say he versatile he could play both sides of the ball he could play with or without the ball and then he’s that guy that could you know he could he can he can square off against a KD and try and
Defend them and try and equalize and do stuff like that so I I like the move for him but I don’t like like you said I don’t think it puts them in a position where they better than you know Boston but I I do I do think that it’s it’s a
Upgrade for them and it you know it ca it some of that stuff was going to get moved around anyway so you might as well try and cash out and win something when you getting them and I think you know I think Pascal probably it sounds like he
Gonna sign an extension and I think he’ll be a good player for them moving forward and Miami too though I already know I already know where he sits cuz I know his makeup I don’t I mean but but hold up before before you go into it cuz
I know his makeup I already know where he’s going to go with that [ __ ] right but it does like it’s it is a good fit yeah it is a good fit they play Fast H Burton plays fast Pascal’s Elite transition like the they are going to be
Better they’re going to be tough to stop but they don’t play no [ __ ] defense I told you you going go they don’t play no [ __ ] defense bro like okay I get it I get it you know what I’m saying and and it is a upgrade and I like Pascal SE I I
Love the fact that you got a guy not only can guard a LeBron but then a guy that LeBron got to guard on the other side yeah cuz a lot of times you got a situation where you ask a [ __ ] to go out there and stop Braun and then
Braun go down here and smoke cigarettes on off on defense cuz he ain’t even guarding the [ __ ] that you done put out there so now he got he going down here smoke cigarettes on defense cuz the [ __ ] he G on offense he ain’t even got to worry about this
[ __ ] you know what I’m saying so I love that and I love the fact that obviously halberg can [ __ ] pass that [ __ ] I love the fact that seak can get out and [ __ ] transition and put up numbers but if the philosophy is all we going to do is out score
[ __ ] then all you are is a updated version of Phoenix and you see what they won damn my bad K rich I didn’t even mean that I know you was there I know you was there but you get you get what yeah you was only that but you understand what I’m saying
Though you got to be able to guard some [ __ ] body when you get in a [ __ ] seven game series against Boston guess what they can score just as well as you and they can [ __ ] guard yeah and they can [ __ ] guard or you [ __ ] around and you get locked in a
Series with a [ __ ] team like [ __ ] Orlando who can [ __ ] guard but guess what maybe they not where they need to be offensively right now well [ __ ] around let them figure it out let them figure it out because now you leaving it up to chance because you ain’t [ __ ]
Guarding nobody you know who I felt like I was just saying that with Miami like in the East if you stayed in the East I felt like Miami was was was a spot that he can be a game changer playing with Jimmy and playing with bang now that
Shuffled stuff up right there to that’s I mean you get them I feel like that was a better spot for him and that’s I was just looking for spots that was better for him like give up to get them I I don’t know yeah so speaking of that what
What does Miami have to do cuz Miami has to do something yeah but I thought like cuz they were screaming out Sacramento for Harrison bnes and I was like that really ain’t going to move the needle for Sacramento Harr no I’m talking about seak they was talking about he was going
To get traded to Sacramento and I was like all right so if you trade him for Harrison Bourn it it was going to feel like Indiana with them like yeah of course they’ll upgrade their team they’ll be a good team but it really wouldn’t the move the needle to make a
For show Conference Finals or for show push to try to make a championship like Miami didn’t provve that they didn’t did it and they ain’t had a versatile guy like that in the minute you know what I’m saying so I feel like if he went to
Miami yeah n that moves the needle not not Celtics and everybody that they beat last year or in there they got to look like oh [ __ ] they got another solid one over there I like that so P so Pascal’s off Market you’re here all the time
You’re the OG in Miami what does Miami do they do anything think oh yeah I think I think if I know the Godfather he up there he definitely stirring what need to do The Godfather like to go for the whales he call them the whales you know
What I’m saying it’s always a whale out there you know what I’m saying so if he going to make a move it’s going to be something big you know what I’m saying I think that’s how that’s how he thinks you know what I’m saying those Welles I
Don’t think bringing in a a role player per say helps we got a lot of those we got a lot of dogs we got a lot of guys with dog mentalities we got a lot of guys out [ __ ] stars in their role we understand we got guys who understand
How to star in their role we have that already but if he’s going to make a move it got to be another wh you know what I’m saying like Pascal seam you look at that [ __ ] lineup and you saying we got bam out bio Jimmy but and Pascal
Seaman one not you [ __ ] up in the head already come on you already [ __ ] up in the head so um who that’s but my pay grade killer but they got to make a move for show and it’s going to be a will I think oh if I know Rous he look he
Looking for a will you know what I’m saying and you you obviously work in Orlando that team’s been fun man yes um my young boys and it’s going to be interesting to see what they do there because they have a lot of young Talent there they’re on the brink of it like
They should be a playoff team this year I think they will be a playoff team this year do you think they make any moves at the deadline I wouldn’t be surprised because I mean you look at you look at the landscape of the team it’s a lot of
Youth it’s a lot of we kind of got a lot of everything you know what I’m saying like if we were ever healthy at one you would really see the depth to the team but when you see that type of like we got a lot of guards lot of wings you
Know what I’m saying I I I don’t know but I would expect that something is going to happen somebody’s going to get moved and cuz this cuz I feel like we got we even got guys in the g- league like Jay Howard down in G League getting
30 every other night pi and he’s a bucket he’s he’s ready to play like you know what I’m saying so it’s like I I I I feel like that they probably will do something I don’t know what they’ll do but I would imagine a wing or one of
Those guards maybe could go and they try to add something in the front court or or or I don’t know where they add to because I mean we got we got like a this is a a weird space that I feel like we in cuz I’ve been you know with the magic
Since I left left there playing and it’s like this is the finally like it’s like we turning the corner bro like we getting back to where our our team is like a solid like you not coming in there just walking over even when we go on the road our defense travels we
Traveling we very least we going to be competitive we showing up to fight you see what I’m saying like that’s what I love and respect about our Squad and what Co MOS didn’t put together with them because you know you sit there watch a couple years ago like [ __ ] come
In there 30 20 years 30 you know what I’m saying like now if her come there you better have your [ __ ] tied up tight cuz these boys is hooping they like I don’t give a [ __ ] what you talking about what you think of whose names is what
And how no as a team we showing up and we going to [ __ ] fight yeah they’ve done a great job there and and got to give flowers to Mo cuz coach MO dope story about Co mosy right he was my host my senior year when
I went on my visit to he was at he was at Colorado Colorado Buffalo he was a senior that was the man on the say he was my host Coach Ricardo padon was the coach there I went on the visit there and like he I think he had like a quick
Minute overseas then he came right back and start coaching in the league assistant coaching he didn’t he didn’t worked his way up man he killing it but it was crazy like that you know what I’m saying like I mess with him all the time like you ain’t do your job you couldn’t
Give me to Colorado and they got a young bowl over there Apollo hey he’s an Allstar this year that’s the dude that’s the man he’s an allar we just talk about that that’s automatic he Allstar this year a lot he’s earned it like they he’s done an unbelievable job give me your
Eastern Conference Allstar uhoh [ __ ] I got a list you want me to go on my phone go bring it up we got receipts we don’t mind while he’s talking what y’all got Ain no [ __ ] I got I got Paulo yes or no yes I got him on my list I
Think so but I feel like it’s going to be it’s going to be super hard for him because it’s other guys that that’s up there that get num you know one of the guys that we was talking about earlier that we didn’t mention was Donovan
Mitchell you know what I’m say I got on my list like like I feel like the the top three teams are sending out two guys you know you got jayen and uh Tatum you got embiid and Maxi you got Damon and and and and Greek Freak you can scrap
Chris St this sang goon [ __ ] and excuse me they disrespect the s but he got more votes to Paul Jo see this the [ __ ] I’m talking about that’s why I can’t look at that sh terrible I can’t look at that give give East I got my list right here
Goddamn it here my East you my East 12 yeah the East my East I got hburg I got bam I got embid I got Tatum I got brown I got Giannis I got Paulo Jimmy Maxi Dan Brunson and spider Jimmy not going to make it I I don’t think Jimmy going to
Make I don’t think he might not he might not get in cuz of the games yeah I think he Ain play not get of the G and he don’t give a [ __ ] either he said that clearly I ain’t going I don’t give a [ __ ] about no games trying to get in a
[ __ ] allar game so might not get so give it to me give it to me one more time and then y’all y’all give me yours okay I had for my East for my East I had helenberg bam embiid Tatum Brown Giannis Paulo Jimmy Maxi Dan Brunson and
Spider so now Jimmy might not get in who the last one spider spider spider Mitchell Donan Donovan yeah okay so if Jimmy take Jimmy off put Dame in I got Dame I got Dame I got 12 on east side I think Paulo for him to make it is
Going to probably come down to him Randle and Trey young let me ask you this speaking to him cuz I feel like Trey young get disrespected why y’all think they don’t [ __ ] with Trey Young no more I don’t know Danny he’s right up there with with u halberg and assist
Right he’s moving the ball I think a lot of second in the league inist I’m just talking about like I like like I you I like young I like Trey young he he would have got a couple people would have got in on my list but I could only
Pick 12 but I love what he doing cuz he’s sharing the ball when he first came in the league I think the knock on Trey young was he wasn’t making other people better they can’t say that no more they cannot say he’s not making other people
Better no more you know what I’m saying so I actually love I’ve I’ve seen the evolution and the maturation you know what I’m saying haven’t been around him in practice you know what I’m saying I heard he might be a little tough to coach at times yeah I don’t know all of
That about him what I see on the basketball court is he’s figuring it out he’s figuring out how to make other people better and and that’s a skill you know what I’m saying but I feel like this year with Orlando man they should have somebody representing them that’s
Easy I age to you I’ve been yelling that the whole time that’s a that’s a lot kid is the dude like when like you know how it is he passed the ey test bro like when you watch somebody and you see they game like and then the thing I like about him is
That he like this he don’t get like he don’t get he don’t get really caught up in nothing like I’ve been watching like damn like okay like you got to say something not you do some [ __ ] like that or something like my man just just straight like this just straight blank
Face about to bust your ass boy about to BU and we all and we all know this he a last four minutes of the game he is a [ __ ] what the [ __ ] are you feeding him about what is he 610 250 2 bid and it’s all muscle it’s solid my
Thing I think he he started the season off slow because they was playing so good the way they was playing but I love his aggression right now like how he playing right now he’s like he taking initiative like I forget all that like this is my team I’m leading this team he
You know what it was though cuz I was through the whole process like USA Basketball that had him playing a different role and you know how it is when you go USA Basketball you sacrific and he played a completely different role he comes back and it’s like yo like
Okay you got to be pal ban Carol again dog like this is you flip the switch and once he did that in Utah it was over from there and now he just like to me like his numbers are too good Orlando’s gonna make a playoffs you have to have
Them in there and it’s just this how I knew this how I knew I [ __ ] with Pao though we was at the Jordan the Jordan border of Governor thing this summer The Little I call it Jordan family Union right so you know you get out there it’s
In Puerto Rico we all out there it’s kick it time you know what I’m saying get some dreams h’t got at the pool all that [ __ ] right so the uh one of the days it’s like early in the afternoon it’s like 10 11:00 10 like 10: me and my
Wife we go about to go sit out on the beach me my wife Mike babby and his wife so we we out there we chilling and I see like you know whole Beach you look down there like [ __ ] going on down there me and baby looking like who is that
[ __ ] down there running on the beach I’m like who the [ __ ] is that so I say I’mma go I’mma go see so I want to see who it is get down there get a little closer get to where you can see it is is p up I said this [ __ ]
Out here okay I said okay I went back to be I said hey I said say hey that’s bbby down there I said I told B I said that’s P down there running he he say he oh okay okay he for real huh I say [ __ ]
Must be I running that thing hard Puerto Rico chilling and you running on the beach in he B it I’m tell that was that was something to me it was early so I gave my list I would love to know you gentleman’s list I’m I’m I’m I’m with
That I’m with that list like I had Trey young so if you got Trey then we take Jimmy y take off jimy go for that I could go for I I definitely agree with your list on the East give me your West D my West I have Anthony Edwards okay
Bust well let me say my starters cuz I feel like these the starters let me get my receipts now LCA Steph Curry Durant LeBron Joker them are the starters SGA should start but he won’t get the vote but I got SGA my reserves is SGA Anthony Edwards Paul George dear Fox Kawai ad and man mhm that last one yeah that last one I’m I I’ll go with uh I feel like New Orleans need to put somebody in there so I’ll go with uh Brandon engram I can’t get mad at that what you got Q you over there look
Puzzled think about this you no Kyrie right no Kyrie J and J’s obviously hurting Miss like think about how competitive how hard it is to make the the allstar game that [ __ ] crazy you have no Kyrie in there that from 42 38 nobody nobody don’t think Shane goon
Going got a outside shot to make it coaches vote who I like what the young fell doing out there in Houston I’m not going to knock it but I don’t know know who who I take at yeah I would I wouldn’t put him before like Zion I
Wouldn’t put him know who I take a couple of guys why wouldn’t you put him before Zion Zion been playing he’s been playing they not better than him though they’ve been up in the standings he ain’t been playing better than Shang goon though what you got say about Zion you got that
Face on no I just wouldn’t put him over Shang goon I I I want Zion to be the the [ __ ] I want him to be Thanos MH and I ain’t seen that that’s that’s look I’m a fan I want him to be I want him to be Thanos yeah I
Want to walk around tearing rims off the damn court but like hey he got to do that Shane goon to me had a better season than him so far he’s playing well Shane he playing well but I still can’t believe he got more goddamn votes than
Paul George that’s crazy but I mean you got to think about something when you got the different like he might have a whole country vot so you got to think about that too like you know what I’m saying right PG got to split votes with with with with with uh
Kawai probably Russ Harden all of that I got I got the same I’m I’m close to you I got I got Ant-Man if we being real the staring lineup should be SGA and ant Edwards that’s my my star I’m G tell you my star lineup my star isman Paul George
Joker Braun ad and SGA that’s my Starting Fire hey speaking of that though because you’re right you touch on that Allstar voting does it need to change cuz that’s like I know the fans should have a vote they’re they’re the reason we have what we have yeah but
With that being said like money tied to that though like that’s the problem I like I ain’t never had no allar been in that to be tripping about it but like that’s like when you get into this is my thing when you letting these people that’s got human emotions do this and
Then you tying these players Monies to First Team all NBA all of that super Maxes and [ __ ] they can’t be like these some of these reporters and people just voting don’t like somebody yeah like that’s that’s a human flaw bro like yeah it’s C like like Tatum that one year if
He have made one of them teams bro he would have been super maxed out and they didn’t give it to him and he deserved it 30 million that’s 30 Mill tickets gone just Bye Bye Birdie that’s T you get he going to tell me I ain’t supposed to
Care about that like I’m a real person I’m not going to lie and say some TV [ __ ] I’m pissed if I’m in that pament bro like who the [ __ ] did didn’t vote with me you said I’m a real person real talk say the perfect [ __ ] now like MB averag
35 right now he averaged 35 10 and like six or something like that like if he missed seven more games he’s not eligible for first team he’s not eligible for nothing no award the MVP the the the all the all uh NBA or none of that so if he finish the season and
Just say he missed them seven games and his his numbers at the end of the season still is 35 10 and and guess what he probably going to miss him seven games cuz yeah that’s what I’m saying Philly Philly worried about winning the final winning the championship so like when you miss that
Like it’s it’s hard to not give a dude average 35 at Center in a guards league right now the MVP just cuz he missed more than 17 games so I feel like it’s a GI and a curse with that they rule yeah they win the championship kill [ __ ] no n
But they no but I I love and be I love what they’ve been able to do since James Harden left you know I’m saying the connection that they got I think they’re definitely a more connected group you know what I’m saying connected locker room which helps you
Know what I’m saying obviously you lose a superstar and you feel like who’s going to step up Maxi already stepped up now the guys are playing great you see um Tobias Harris playing great in his role so you understand that I think that locker room is connected shout out to
Pat Bell you know what I’m saying I think I think he got a little bit to do with that locker room being connected and pushing those guys I was one of my young fellas where people don’t know Pat Bell first came to the heat you know what I’m
Saying yeah we kicked it so that man was picking up full court had everyone flustered like exactly I think he’s a huge part of the success that they’re having and you know when you get into the playoffs and you look at you know what we were able to do to him two years
Ago and you look at what Boston was able to do to him last year it didn’t really come down to Talent it kind of came down to grit it kind of came down to grit yeah so when you got a guy like Pat Bell going to always have that battery in
Your backy you know what I’m saying going to hold your ass accountable you know what I’m saying that gives them a little bit more of a edge but I don’t know right now obviously it’d be hard for anybody to say anybody outside of Boston man shout out Pat Bill too man so
You got you got Boston East yeah well no no no no no no no no no no I said it be hard I know you you got I a [ __ ] no I said it’d be hard hold on you got Boston no I said it’ be
Hard this great news no I said it’d be hard to pick outside of Boston I got the [ __ ] heat hey you got Boston that’s crazy no no no I said it Boston you got Boston he don’t he don’t like Boston Boston got a Boston got St Louis
Representa on the squad so I I definitely got Boston God damn but that’s the other side of the bridge D both sides i r both sides up so listen I understand that talent wise what they’re doing right now yes you would say Boston in a seven game series
[ __ ] seven days a week and twice on Sunday I’m riding with the heat and that’s just how I feel when it when it come down to a seven game series when it come down to a seven [ __ ] game series now we and don’t get me wrong y’all got
Work to do let me ask you this y got work to do they got [ __ ] work to do let me ask you this so we going we going to take the Easter Conference out cuz we know the heat over there who you got coming out the West [ __ ] that’s
Tough I’m I’mma Be honest I like what them young boys doing they ain’t and they ain’t letting up they couldn’t wait for the time they could whoop on Braun and and and step them they couldn’t wait for their day to come them young [ __ ] ain’t letting up milwa I
Me excuse me Minnesota OKC them young [ __ ] sitting up there and they not letting up they not getting bored with the process you know these old [ __ ] you be in the first seat and you kind of moon walk your way to the playoffs and we going to turn it up
And this [ __ ] easy right now you know we got the we got the format already you [ __ ] dominate at home wi 50% of the games on the road and then you put yourself in a number one and number two seed we all know the format we’ve been
In this [ __ ] long enough but them young [ __ ] they ain’t on that they trying to win every [ __ ] game I got dble got demver I got I will say this though man I gotta tip my hat to Tim connley over there man Tim Conley last year he leaves Denver builds that
Team obviously they’re doing a great job over there now goes to Minnesota goes and trades for gobear doesn’t look like it works out at all and now number one team in the west they’re different it reminds me but but it reminds me though of like when we used to play Phoenix
Everyone has to change style cuz the CH the style is completely different I watched the game Minnesota and Orlando they’re out there playing two seven-footers dominating the paint hard hedging on pick and rolls it’s like I’m like what the hell going on like but every team that plays them now like
Changes their style of Play It’s almost like what we did with Phoenix drove me crazy when I was playing we go play Phoenix and we change our lineup up man they going to beat the [ __ ] out of us when we change our lineup up we got to
Try to flip it but it’s the only team that’s different two seven-footers they’re dominating the paint cat’s making all the three and Edward is a [ __ ] the only reason that [ __ ] worked with two bigs it’s cuz Orlando can’t shoot they can’t play too big in the playoffs I’m telling you though try
That [ __ ] in the playoffs and watch what happen that’s sty and I think it’s in the playoffs that [ __ ] not going to work black cuz they got defense like Ed now willing to play defense I agree they are willing to play defense but I’m telling you is the biggest [ __ ] like
Confusion about that is Rudy Gober can be defensive player of the year in the [ __ ] regular season and be a defensive liability in the playoffs no it’s G to be it’s gon to be inter and it’s it has nothing to do with Rudy it has nothing to do with Rudy it has
Nothing to do with what he does but it’s how people are going to scheme to play against him that’s going be a great story he’s naturally a shot blocker he’s naturally protecting the rim if you got a [ __ ] stretch five or somebody sitting out there I’m gonna line your
Ass up and tell my team get in the paint all the time every time Rudy goz coming whoever you planify you [ __ ] get ready to let your [ __ ] clip spray let me tell you who I got though all right I got them Los Angeles Clippers oo change the narrative over
There finally grab the title I got [ __ ] me up with that and I could go for that I could go for it’s easy to say them team that’s on top now but I could go for that one I love what T doing them boys got Ro T got them got them cracking
And now they didn’t like you said they didn’t figured it out don’t what they didn’t they didn’t hit that stride James and got situated Russ going to the bench was big and like you say Kawai playing n Ka show up it’s a different ball you got
A Russell West book for 4 billion dollar are coming off your bench I like way they playing they playing together it look like they want to play together they look for each other I got I want to give a shout out to Russ though cuz I
Feel like you know what I’m saying like he don’t get enough credit for what he what you know what I’m saying like about love the game too man Bro think about how the Lakers fans was trying to make it all about him they record the same
And he gone and now he over here doing this thing and then he showing that that he F A Team like you know what I’m saying like to take himself out of the equation say I come off the bench and do this and that like that’s all selfless
Behavior why that ain’t getting shine more on you know what I’m saying like they were so busy trying to dog my G out and talk [ __ ] about him but like he just did some huge [ __ ] for somebody in his shoes to be what he is to to how the
Accolades and the success he’s had and then to just say I come off the bench and just take all the pressure off everything like I don’t think that got enough credit for what he did and the way he did it and then to see the results they turn they [ __ ] around and
They hooping and now where is all of that talk man I don’t I don’t and fored in the West too just to let y’all know I don’t understand why why why all the flat for Rush like is he misunderstood because man this [ __ ] play hard every player game
What the [ __ ] can you complain about he get he he leave it out there every day every [ __ ] night every every [ __ ] night whether you like it or not you got to respect that you got so I love the fact that he did that that’s a great
Call I like the Clippers what you got killer I’m going Denver too why cuz you play it there no I just I just like they strong bro yes they’re very they’re listen man like at the end of the day Joker is makes everybody better playoff basketball comes the last four minutes
He’s going to create a shot a great shot for himself he’s going to get the foul line like I until someone beats him I think I think L and Bruce Brown hurt him I really do they may get him back they might get him back got to watch that n
Come back around the circle but like like to me I’ve seen it too much like they create too like to me the basketball game in the playoffs is last four minutes of the game it’s going to be back and forth and he just he’s one that
You can put the ball on like I told him when he was a rookie when I had him it was the first person I ever saw was like the Matrix the ball hit his hands and everything just stopped yeah and and when when pressure gets the biggest and
There four minutes left and that Matrix hits I just think he’s I think he’s going to lead it to him they giving me the the the and he’s a FIV man that can shoot against R go me the Spurs Vibe like how they just along y all talk
About everybody and get excited about this and that but like we just going to keep on WE handling our [ __ ] business while we doing it and something we got to mention too like going into Denver and winning a playoff game is hard how hard it is anyway L like that’s a huge
Advantage at the end of the day you got to get to four but yeah they giving me them spurs Vibes where they just try to on Lo handling their business we ain’t got to be in the spotlight of being talked about then I I like we all know
Coaching is a big part of I like coach Mike Malone’s whole his whole mentality and how he go about it like I like you know what I’m saying I like the way he going he going to have they ass on point you know what I’m saying he ain’t going
To let them let them [ __ ] off because he ain’t doing his part you know what I’m saying that ain’t going to happen so I I just like what they doing man I still and I still think they strong then when when jic missed a couple games and
DeAndre Jordan when he got 20 and 10 I was like okay big Highlander you still got that in you you he might be like he might be the best live catcher in the history of the league though like for real like just like a big man catching
Lot like bro you ain’t really seen footage like that he reverse that he catching way over here he he he do that [ __ ] like that he still do that [ __ ] he still do that [ __ ] I got a question for you uh Orlando franchise has been here for what
33 34 years 35 years next month they retiring Shaq Jersey dies it’s going to be the first jersey that they retire I feel like T-Mac should be next on that you think no I agree I think obviously Shaq is well you know is well do like that’s what it’s supposed to be like
That was the I mean for me personally that was like the Jersey him and Penny right like like I rocked those at our age that was like the sick Jersey and then I saw T-Mac T-Mac to me is one of the most underrated basketball players
I’ve ever played with me too I feel that way so like he was Elite passer they talk about scoring Elite passer and again very similar to what I said to you at the beginning of this podcast like he was almost a bit about ahead of his time
Yeah like if you guys came out now come on man like like that’s what the game is like so he should be there if if he doesn’t have injuries it’s already it’s it’s like this whole thing this whole script’s different but that’s part of the game like but yeah teamac was so
Instrumental in Orlando Magic basketball for me personally too jersey retired next sh% right next to boy let me ask you this is his relationship with Orlando cool like they yeah he was he be at the game stuff okay good good and he from right down the road too
Yeah yeah you don’t know nothing about alale no I didn’t even know where the [ __ ] that was until I met tmac I didn’t know where the [ __ ] arale was till I met we play Au ball together that’s the first time I met tmac it was me Keon
Duelan Brent R we had a hell of a a team but that that was the first time I met tmac so it’s time for Florida Flash and that’s when we seen your ass that’s when I was like who the [ __ ] is this that’s that’s when that’s when I met uh when UD
Was a fat boy football player yeah what we go to ABC Adidas Camp him and Keon the Florida boys over there that’s when Keon was talking about t hey dog we got this dude dog dog we got this dude don’t nobody know about him dog he so cold dog
Wait till they seat T man he cold he was talking about te one thing I say was every I don’t know what it was but every time I seen Q at a camp like or whereever loed we was solid like I it was just like Chicago like that [ __ ]
Just Vibe you know real real recognize real man you get away from all the root poops man you know what I’m saying like no no squares in the circle cuz you realize quickly when you go to all these camps people from different places they buy by different rules they was raised
Differently man I hated Camp you know what I’m saying my stock went down to Camp every time I went to Nike camp or any Camp really NBA Camp my stock always go down he too [ __ ] nice cuz I get nice you was out there just it’s just
Like you know it’s it’s a it’s a [ __ ] selfish and [ __ ] he ain’t going to go out there and get his [ __ ] off he going to be trying to pass cuz you know like everybody just out there selfish and just yeah trying to get the rock off and
I’m like man I don’t want to play in this [ __ ] but when I seen them a I’m quadruple doubling and triple doubling they ass every time I seen them but it seemed like when I got to Camp everybody was just trying to just do too much you
Know what I’m saying to me and it just it just rubbed me like the wrong way where I just was really [ __ ] with camps like that I mean I was a big man so I had to wait for a [ __ ] to pass me the ball I would never really
Getting the ball in no Camp if you wait for somebody to pass it to you sh you play for CMH like how the [ __ ] did they get you to play they already had Co there when we bust they ass though we beat the [ __ ] out them play
One time I literally was sitting at the crib and you know you have this is back way before you have the house phone I get my phones ringing I pick it up and it’s uh it’s my piggy in them from CM who’s went to jail for some [ __ ] but
He’s like hey man we’re going to go play in the the Boo Williams tournament this weekend you want to play yeah you want to go play this is before I knew there was a dynamic between Adidas and Nike yeah like I didn’t even know it was like
A deal MH um and I was like sure they flew me up there I practiced with them corleon young was busting my ass in practice I was like what the hell is this I you know you back then you didn’t see nobody it’s not like now you walk
Into you walk into the fire you find out like like that so I like oh [ __ ] I got to adjust a little bit here but man I went and play with them we had a whip man yeah we had a whip yeah they already got one two three yeah they had a whip
They got they got Cory yeah young J Rush the boy that Vince jumped over he played with Kevin point guard from Georg Kevin they had they had they had everybody they had a whip and I walked in that thing dog like Eyes Wide Open coming straight from
South the streets of South Dakota and guess what you D we [ __ ] them around three four times that summer beat [ __ ] out of you w when we did but trust me we beat him in we beat him in um Peace Jam we beat him in Purdue and we beat him in
I think we beat him in their own [ __ ] in Kansas City in Kansas City too SLA them around where we supposed to play y’all in high school they didn’t want y’all to do that no no no that ain’t true that ain’t true let tell what happened miles
Go we had it on the schedule but the way it was set up is we were supposed to play them on a Sunday and the State of Florida didn’t allow us to travel up there and play a Sunday basketball game but they was on was right they didn’t
Want boys to come to touch like mind how would have love to get some of that smoke you rich love some of that I’m just tell I told me and Blake had conversation we the love some of that smoke listen man listen we listen I get
It I understand big SBR you remember SBR was on my team at night count he gave a lot of passes there year SE was was nice SE was nice just run the floor rebound pass play hard just pass and facilitate for guys like we we just couldn’t get
The grades right from Florida so we couldn’t play we couldn’t get them in Florida we couldn’t go 200 miles outside the state when we play that’s right yeah that’s why we couldn’t play like all the rank teams and all that stuff we couldn’t go miles outside stra we
Couldn’t play on a Sunday everything different now none of that don’t people go anywhere now cing across the country n man anywhere and play any goddamn with anybody I the one thing I do wish they had that back then that they uh have now
Was the uh you know how they at the end of the year they had that big dick Sporting Goods real tournament like when we was playing you had to win the national championship by staying undefeated really by your record the USA yeah like Geico the like
May that to be on TV and then they put like okay now all the teams is the best team now y’all come to this that’s the one I wish is dope I like then you really get to see like now n y’all we all here we did our state and all that
Stuff over with now let’s come to the everybody one state at would have been able to come I se his high schol team I fire that place I yeah you who else you this [ __ ] rebound and Outlet it to himself he shoot it he get back on
Defense he rebounded and pass to himself again that was him the high school that boy was the point guard Center power forward boy get quadruple doubles I tell everybody when I got back to Miami I told everybody I seen some [ __ ] we ain’t seen before down here
[ __ ] can go he Co I didn’t know I was going to play with him but he can [ __ ] go but the rest of your team I I don’t even know who the [ __ ] I have no clue they could walk by me right now and I would know I wouldn’t know you know
Cousin Ernie I know ER dog I know ER dog of course I know ER dog I would not assume ER dog was a basketball player if he walk by me right now I would not assume that [ __ ] ER dog was hooping if he walked through this [ __ ]
Set right now there’s no way in hell he hooped with you and you know the crazy thing about it I supposed to transfer it to Whitney Young to my high school my sophomore scared oh y’all some cheat [ __ ] no like my school was shut down it’s two it was two schools in East
St Louis and my school announced they was going they went on strike so we supposed to start at school in August but they went on strike for two whole months like we ain’t get in school till October he was scared so I played with Q them a you I was the only sophomore
Playing with all the rest of them was going to be seniors so they was timeing about come to Chicago and and and go to Whitney Young and I was just like man I ain’t [ __ ] with Chicago man them City Boys be talking too fast for me man used
To be that’s how I used to be so growing up obviously you you could have went there you had the opportunity talk about it cuz I I didn’t know him at that time but you knew him D way and you knew him obviously you played with him talk about
The young DW before I even met him that that DW quiet as a mouse quiet as hell quiet as a mouse that [ __ ] could be sitting right there and you would not know it really wouldn’t say a goddamn word but his but his game the same he was Flash then he
Had the same thing you see in the league it was the same was the same thing he was doing when I first seen like I didn’t play with d way till the summer going into my senior year like I played with qm the summer going to my sophomore
Year then I played with j high with them the summer going to my junior year and then first time me meeting D way was that summer I was playing the point and D way was playing like wait a minute you was playing the point yeah I was like
Running the point God damn bro D way and D way was playing the two D way average like 30 his senior year he average crazy numers they just didn’t give him no luck like bro a like 31 like 10 like seven like he had crazy numbers really I’m
Tell you why D way now I remember D way will’ll go to these games a and I have 30 or I have 25 and D wayer had like 30 or he had like 25 and then they decided not to let him go to Nike Camp he didn’t get picked to go to Nike
Camp his feelings was so hurt for not getting picked to go night Camp cuz he was putting up numbers he was you know he was doing his thing that way you that status at too and mhm I feel like from that moment cuz he worked so hard to get
To that and that that moment he just excelled like ever since then that’s why I have a problem with like rankings and list and stuff because that you can’t tell me if he was the same player y’all are talking about come on man that’s why I don’t even look at
Stuff anymore it’s got past my eyes if it P my eyes I don’t care what you ranked or what you listed surpr athletic he’s a Defender like the same layup style if I show you something the T the Au taste we got and all that you’ll be
Like man he doing the same move in yeah that’s the same hear a few more moves don’t get me wrong but his whole style and and demeanor and everything was the same thing when I first met him when I first when I play I see I see why he had
That little chip on his shoulder then yeah I didn’t know him then obviously I I was overseas when you know he had his run with uh Marquette but when I got back I had signed with the heat and um they had drafted and when they drafted they drafted dwade and one of my
Homeboys like I said dra came up draw dra dra d said boy iall got that boy from Mar c that could go yeah I said who he said Dwayne Wade I said who the [ __ ] is that I like I said I had just got back from Europe M he said this
[ __ ] dropped a triple double on Kentucky I said what once I heard that cuz once again I played against Kentucky we played against Kentucky every [ __ ] year and we went [ __ ] Florida I’ve never won in R Arena I’ve never got to win in R Arena yeah once I heard that
[ __ ] dropped the triple double on Kentucky I said this [ __ ] gota be cold like [ __ ] you already know how Kentucky is still the same thing you might have get one or two years of Kentucky your ass is up out of here so if he dropped a triple double on
Them on that stage I knew he had to be cold but I didn’t know him at that point but to know that he was cold like that n he was n he got he he got a little bit more fashion and and he talk a little
Bit more now but he he he exactly the same dude I met that summer right now today he ain’t quiet no more like his personality listen the quiet [ __ ] I’mma tell you exactly when the quiet [ __ ] stopped Shaq Twan Walker G GP when they came I’m telling you I know it like the
Back of my hand bro I you you already know you did whenever like before that I’m I’m the one calling D hey man let’s go he come they come through La man that man not leaving the hotel room you want see D way you got to go slide through
And go CD way he not doing none of this B they came that’s right I ain’t got to call him though he hitting me talk about man we got such and such going on at this and this and this I remember when y’all came through Phoenix first time
This first time I seen CU now I’m in Phoenix D way called me say yeah say say so we going to be we going to be here so you know we me and me and real and we shoot up there beforeand we already there here come here come here here here
They come uh Damon Jones Jimmy Hart in the front of the crew he got the D he coming he talking he talking here come rest after that I’m like damn this boy out here shat gave him the bracelet bought him a Lambo it’s over flash flash man he called Damon Jones hey that
Boy was he was the bullhorn come with a cigar talking and [ __ ] hey well you would talk about when we pulled up the Phoenix but what about when we used to pull up to New York you rich you don’t want that that sh smell like he burning
Glue that’s that dirty dirty you don’t want that hey Q you remember I got arrested coming to your house coming to my house this [ __ ] was in town I was in town I just got to I remember man was there yeah I remember that what you
Got wrest for I ain’t did nothing wrong oh yeah we we tell the story here we go but we go tell the story Q Rich once again he got a nice crib got a little got a little function going on you know what I’m saying ain’t nothing the people
C bring people together Gathering bring people together Gathering you know what I’m saying so you know I got my homies you know I got the I’m pulling up I got about I got a trunk full of Bam Bam I got TR but it’s my homeboy [ __ ] it’s my homeboy [ __ ] now you feel
Me we get pull listen I’m on the expressway cuz I’m already late I stay the furthest you know what I’m saying I live I’m from Miami but I live the [ __ ] up in brood I’m trying to get there D the C rich crib so we on 119th I never
Forget this [ __ ] we on 119th we coming down 11 19th now mind you now everything in the car is my homeboys so we get pulled over we get pulled over I I was speeding yes I was speeding so the first thing he do when
We get pulled over I see him behind me I pull over I let my I let my window down the first thing I see when I let my window down is a goddamn gun pointed in my window I say hey man I’m a professional ball player he say hi I
Know who you is I say because you ran the tag so you know who it is before you pulled me over if this car report is stolen then you know it’s me [ __ ] that’s how you know you know what I’m saying oh I smell marijuana in the car my homeboy say
Listen here man if you find anything in this car is mine now now whatever was in the car had already been strategically placed under my homeboy seat anyway these [ __ ] kept me on the side of the street in the r and a wife beat her for two hours till the
Police dog came man they went through the car the police dog [ __ ] my B up scratching my [ __ ] all up looking for my [ __ ] man he go in the car obviously they find what they looking for at the time and the first thing this man say to
Me is how you going to explain to all your NBA people what happened here today the thing I said to him is all I’m going to do is remember everything you say so keep talking you keep talking you you ain’t worried about nothing about no Bam Bam
You just trying to get an NBA player you think you got a big fish like [ __ ] like this little bit of bag of weed ain’t gonna get you [ __ ] you ain’t F to get no Nobel Peace Prize for this [ __ ] you know what I’m saying all you did was sto me
From going to the pool party that’s all you [ __ ] did [ __ ] up the whole VI up the whole VI man my dog had the chef had the DJ had the pool party the whole vibe was [ __ ] up man I done got jammed up coming from C rich crib man so the
First thing I do is I call my business manager and I call my my um my lawyer obviously get there these dirty [ __ ] it’s we first of all it’s FHP Florida Highway Patrol they arrest their mama they arrest anybody FL the highway patrol will arrest their [ __ ]
Mama they will take anybody to jail as soon as I get downtown to the county the first thing to do look at me and say what the [ __ ] is you doing here they could let you go they put me in a Cale with basis bums and runaways and had the
Nerve to get my homeboy her own Cale by himself oh what the [ __ ] they put me in a sale let me say this [ __ ] again they put me in a sale with Bess bums and runways and they gave my homeboy a sale by hisself I walk in the Cale the man
Sitting on the toilet taking a [ __ ] metal toilet metal toilet first of all dog instantly I’m saying to myself this is not rehabilitation ain’t nobody walking out here a better person ain’t nobody walking out here a better person did you stop smoking weed after that hell no the [ __ ] [ __ ]
Got me [ __ ] up all I did was get a driver now listen I remember that [ __ ] we at the house we found that [ __ ] out like they we was like damn cuz he was like he supposed to be coming through I got the pistol in
All killer they done got Myck I got the fire in there [ __ ] and everything I’m I’m riding dirty dirty cuz he to fire yo man so what they did was they let me out after midnight that night but the fact that everybody I was in the jail cell with they let all them
[ __ ] out e too because at the end of the day it was on the weekend and you can’t go to court till Monday so I would [ __ ] leave huh out they let everybody that was in the C with me leave out because they knew once I left
Out the [ __ ] news cameras was going to be there so it was about six people in the C with me they let them out first and them [ __ ] went to the right and the News camera started chasing them to the right seeing if I was in the
Crowd of six and you could have left and I hit the left and jumped in my car so six [ __ ] got out on the house because of me that night hopefully they ain’t get their ass back in there coming to coral Coral GES my crib man trying to
Ride hang out with my dog man got jammed up now my case got exp sponged there’s nothing on my record I was innocent like I said like I said can I I told his ass the first time inoc said Jack you ain’t getting nothing from me [ __ ] you
Act like you got L choo like what you think you going to do I don’t know if I ever thought when they pulled you over like officer you tripping is just incense hey so the back story the back story the back story to that that ask y’all something cuz y’all y’all started
The Florida movement before Jo kingom know them start winning them Championship y’all went all way to the champ how proud of y’all was y’all of them when y’all was seeing them running off them champ ship and staying in school to stay together to win championship man we just talked about
That we thought I mean obviously he he’s from here and to see Florida where it’s at now we had coach Donovan on the podcast not too long ago yeah like to see where it’s been where it started where it’s at now like we take a lot of pride in that obviously
It’s like no different than anything that anyone’s ever done like we had options to go other places and coach donam was a 30-year-old coach started recruiting us and we went there Unknown man we we had a chance to win a Natty our our soft year lost to Michigan State
Still hate them dudes which one of them years did we beat y’all in the united we talked about that we talked about that we talked about for you how much you have but I definitely of we don’t win you listen listen everybody knew what you did okay
Listen I you know you can book this 65 [ __ ] for a double double show like you can book that like and I was determined determined I rebound this [ __ ] that game just determine there’s no way this 65 [ __ ] going out rebound me yes he did yes he
Did that’s and and I didn’t understand how because at that time in my career I didn’t have a rebounders mentality yeah just a dog in it just a [ __ ] dog he was rebound he taught me how to box out on offense yeah they beat the [ __ ] out
Of us though in the united they whoop their ass up there they nice a whip though H yall nice little team though jumping ass mcferson Bobby Simmons yeah they had nice little whip Bobby yeah like Bobby Simmons was smooth too bu he was on the team went to
Basketball Bobby was nice but to answer your question D like that we take a lot of pride in that you know what I mean like cuz a lot of stuff that we did if we don’t do it do they actually show up there and go there you know obviously I
Believe In Coach Donovan and what he’s doing but you it’s like anything else in life man you got to have a track record and the first person’s got to believe it’s easy once they believe right and so you know putting that team together was it was fun man we should have won a
Natty but we came up yeah turnament was crazy I remember that that that mine got five threes Bo I seen Teddy dupay in high school scored 55 oh yeah he was in St Louis at the Coca-Cola shootout man I ain’t never I had down that [ __ ] was crazy one step across half
Court and he r one step cross half court he in his R I see he go 55 and it was 55 to most amazing points let me tell you let me tell you something he believed in himself more than any human being I’ve ever seen list listen I can tell the
Story about Ted right now can I tell this story of course you can Ted and Mike are in a camp together and they end up being roommates McDonald’s all americ McDonald’s All American they in a [ __ ] camp at McDonald’s All American together they I’m already crying from
The stories we’ve been telling this [ __ ] here going to make me laugh yo they in the they [ __ ] roommates so Ted looking at the paper and they got the rankings on the paper and Ted say this is [ __ ] [ __ ] says what what happened T say they got you ranked number one and they
Got me ranked number two I’m way [ __ ] better than you I’ll I’ll tell you the story I might have messed it up but that’s how it went 100% the gist is perfect but he you know to know Ted you have to know the story like Ted’s [ __ ] crazy he believes in
Himself right and I don’t know Ted for nothing and we’re in there and he’s like man this some [ __ ] I’m like dog what’s up he’s like man yeah I’m looking he’s looking at the thing you know McDonald Mar game obviously we played it together has all says man they got you
Ranked fifth in the country they got me like 27 and I’m way [ __ ] better than you I said hey Ted nice to meet you bro that’s got sleep in the hotel let me tell you something about Ted like he said you got to know Ted
Yeah I bet Ted $250 one day in practice and he couldn’t dunp Ted know goddamn well he can’t dunk but T swore me up and down that he can [ __ ] dunk the ball like the unbelievable belief that he has in himself which is great sometimes which was ridiculous that day when he
Said he was better way better than this [ __ ] man and obviously telling me he could dump but the belief that Ted has in himself like it’s it’s unbelievable G unbelievable I know who the [ __ ] he was oh he’s in tune with his star player for Show when he
Sc5 ddy D was pissed I we we we went to the you remember back then you could only go like to two games you could go to McDonald’s and like one other had the magic round ball and yeah I went to the we went to the Kentucky Derby Chucky
Derby he was [ __ ] pissed that I won a Three-Point Contest I want everything at that I want a d contest the MVP but he couldn’t believe that I woned you know that was his [ __ ] like you don’t win that like then I wanton it like I wasn’t
Even a shooter back then like that it was like he was sick yeah y can see Ted being mad about that [ __ ] May so can I I can see Ted being mad how the [ __ ] did you win I’m a way better shoo I’m a way better shooter than you how the [ __ ] did
You win speaking of three-point shooting this next segment of the of the podcast is brought to you by prize picks these are my top five Shooters in the league now okay now understand something when you see the list mine has to do with not just percentages but attempts per game
Right cuz that’s a talent Curry getting up 11 that’s a talent obviously that’s not going to be an argument Curry is never going to be an argument I want y’all to hear like this is my top five Shooters in the league right now presented by prize pick so my list Curry
Kyrie KD Dame and Desmond Bane that’s my list y’all go what’s up talk to me but y’ I I like it I just I would I would I told you I would I would swap Desmond Bane and put Trey young I have a problem immediately what’s your problem
You ain’t got no white guys on there I this what I going to say I I’ll drop I Dr how you supposed to get one [ __ ] why I got to do it you supposed to have three up there I give you two right now Tyler hero and ducky
Robinson you got better Shooters than those guys duy Tyler hero is shooting almost 50% from three right now did you know that NOP I got I Tyler hero is shooting almost 50% you who you taking off [ __ ] if I’m telling you somebody shooting almost 50% from three then take your [ __ ] pick
Cuz none of them ain’t close but you so you take them better than any of those three shooters shooters when we say players we say shooters shooters this is Shooters you got to win games if you m might belong on that list too though I
Got I got luuk on that list take Bane off put luk on that list so who you who who say names who you going to take out I’m taking Bane off okay I I can’t home I love I love I love him man obviously I’m not disrespecting
Him top he’s having his a damn good year and obviously he’s hurt right now but with with you know job being out he was handing his business so you know what I’m saying I look at that Liz though and Bane is the only one who not he not the closer y so that’s
Why young every last one of them up there you get on the ball end of the game and say go get the chicken and they shoot the and they shoot it too yeah Luka L good one I like Luka Luka is good we talking about closing it out no I’m
Just saying like if you had your if someone had a gun to your head right now and it was and you had to get one of them [ __ ] to make a shot gun to my head I don’t want none of them [ __ ] shoot me with my life on
The line I want to shoot that shot you want me shoot it I know yeah you’re right I would prefer you to shoot it but no I I mean I got to put hero and dunking in there I got you I like it I
Got you I like it um I got to tell you comb you combine them nah I can’t combine them I’m looking for one more to take out I love ban so luk over Des Bane you got Trey young over dbang are we keeping everything else the same yeah I would yeah
He thinking about that LCA now damn yeah he is thinking about the LCA I can I can think about the Tyler hero and D one’s good but who you taking out I’m taking out KD man KD we ain’t saying scorers we ain’t saying basketball players the word
Upstairs says shoo tur shoot tours so in a shooting competition dunan Robinson yes I think he would beat KD okay if we just talking about who we think will win in the shooting competition oh shooting competi is different though this I’m talking about this I SW Swing Swing to you or you got
To give me something at the end of the game like it’s it’s it all goes into it cuz shooting is a pressure too now like you but I mean but pressure buz pipes we know that I’m going with Shooters and I’m I’m putting I’m putting hero up
There with Bane and as much different like if we just talking about just who shooter like if you think about if you put these guys in a Three-Point Contest and then you go top five from there I don’t know if I do that cuz like
See to me Kyrie is like a Kyrie won a Three-Point Contest this is what I’m about to say like he’s a he’s a funny dude because he’s more of the he sees any moment like you know what I’m saying like he could just he like you got to be
Special like it’s like like that’s that’s like one his superpowers like it don’t like that’s why the end of the game B like three-point kind like cuz some of the best Shooters never won a Three-Point Contest because of the moment you know what I’m saying so like
That’s why when you look at like when he won that [ __ ] I said look remember I told you I said that [ __ ] know how to get a moment he know how to take a moment and make it his own that’s why he could probably exist on any type list
Because he got that sense of like oh this is it I’m about to take this [ __ ] over like you know what I’m saying I got to take KD off cuz he only attempt 4.6 per game yeah that’s that’s and and once again scorer basketball player Bar None
He’s up there we talking about just Shooters right now but he he he shoot mostly jump shots he yeah but we talking about threes right [ __ ] we talking about midrange put me in that [ __ ] I was clutching [ __ ] mid-range like what we doing we talking threes line in you know
Thre talk killer we talking threes if we talking threes on that talking threes then I got to go obviously because if you were talking about a three-point shooter or just somebody that can shoot we talking about a three-point shooter [ __ ] look at the attempts of everybody
Else compared to his right look at Curry attempts if he’s three point D get 11 up if you’re Steph Curry getting 11 up is amazing to me look D CU you know that’s what you know did you ever shoot 113 no I mean I shot 11 I never I mean my most
Probably six game in a game in a game yeah I didn’t shot 18 you you play you played with a a new style offense he wasn’t playing type of offense did you ever put up 11 oh yeah I shot 11 yeah but not very often not like
Not averaging 11 per game fucku average game listen Phenix it was Let it Fly Like pton Manning that’s one outside of Phoenix anywhere else did you shoot in La I shot a lot of Threes like that a couple times and in New York I don’t remember you shootting threes like that
I got double figures up it’s easy you shoot that [ __ ] in in Phoenix in YK that was the one thing man when I was being a free agent the Dan Tony thing that’s one thing that intrigued me man cuz I saw all that [ __ ] I was like
Matter beat that [ __ ] up D Tony cuz when we used to play Phoenix his Scouting Report was I don’t know why he thought that the best way to win was to leave me open I understand we had Shaq yeah I understand we had Shaq but you trying me this is the most disrespectful
[ __ ] ever in life if you think that this is the Scout report to beat us I used want to beat that [ __ ] I took it personally I used want to beat that [ __ ] up like you think that I’m [ __ ] that’s going to be the [ __ ] we link I used to I used
To I used want to beat D Tony the [ __ ] up to this day bro and it’s no I didn’t I don’t like Dan Tony for that like you think that I’m the weak [ __ ] that’s that’s who you going to go for me tell you what that was as all analytics
Danon was like we’ll give up a 12 foot well Indiana had analytics you see what we did to their ass 13 for 14 hey stand on analytics that’s where analytics got your ass and then your dumb ass tried it again the very next year you came back
With the exact same game plan we going to leave them open again got your ass lit up again like I don’t understand those analytics that [ __ ] made me not like people like cuz you’re trying to [ __ ] embarrass me that’s what you trying to do you trying
To embarrass me you like treat me like a [ __ ] non-player on the NBA court you’re trying to [ __ ] embarrass me I want to make your coach take you out the game huh make the coach take you out the game yeah you trying to [ __ ] embarrass me bro what’s your what’s your
Deal with with with ticket in and P What’s your deal with ticket I got put that [ __ ] up there we sure what the deal is it started with you it started with me yeah it started with you we going to put it on what let me you started all
That [ __ ] oh it did oh we got hey you know me man I was always in in something I was always in something I get in the middle [ __ ] you got receipts yeah I got receipts we got receipts for show we going to show we going to show black we
Going to clear the air right now we going to see we going to see where all that [ __ ] started interview [ __ ] started with him and Paul first I don’t know what what they had going on but you know me [ __ ] right WR take SI for your dog we talk
About what happened that from Summer Times in Chicago so that’s where his [ __ ] started Paul see [ __ ] he started that [ __ ] and got me in on that [ __ ] here it go right here then they seeing each other in F here it is here it is here we go k Rich [ __ ]
Him [ __ ] him now here now here I come now I cut kg now you done turned his head he don’t want none of that he don’t now you looking the other way don’t look the other way I’m right where I’m supposed to be I don’t know why big baby took that
Straight I pushed him all over the place look at this watch what I do watch what I do to big baby here watch I do big baby I pushed his ass down so oh yeah show that interview that interview was funny it was it’s your ass interview was
Funny let’s see the interview see the one with me with the tank top all right let’s see the interview after the game after the game I got to hear the interview I got to see the interview hey how funny was seeing Jamal oh God he caught you and what I pushed
The [ __ ] I pushed the baby down in the ground that’s what I’m saying Jamal mcor was best who watch this go right big baby you ain’t deserve that straight but you was in the wrong place pushed him down you and J and tried to track the trailer his ass he lucky big
Cat didn’t get involved in for real but see my thing was I ain’t even want big baby he just got in the way I was TR I was looking for I was going for number five that’s who I was going for I want to try to catch number five so that goes
Back to your question then I don’t what is it with me yeah I me like I had Paul the question you asked and ticket on the show yeah the question you asked him what’s what’s good I saying he has some uh some smoke for my thing
Is with with ticket it’s just the I understand you got to Hype yourself up I understand we all we all our own biggest fan but the [ __ ] that man say out of his mouth you can’t say that that’s just why I’m from straight up that’s all it is
It’s just that simple he said something to youf F he Ain never said it to me black he never said it to me he just talking he ain’t never said it to me okay he said it to other people on my team okay you know what I’m saying but
Where I’m from man you just can’t do that bro you get the whole park shut up talking like that you talk that [ __ ] like how he talk to people all right I’ll be right back that’s what going to happen like and I just I just them rules
Just apply for me all the way up I never was talking disrespectful I never tried nobody now if you started that [ __ ] then we going we going to take it there but I never was taught to talk crazy and disrespect [ __ ] ass [ __ ] taste like Froot Loops and all the crazy [ __ ] that
Come out this this man mouth and I’m saying myself [ __ ] I be looking around like yo this [ __ ] tripping bro and then I be like and then they get to the point where he be saying it so much i’ be like yo who you talking to talking to me I
Just want to understand he was never talking to me but so he can’t say it on the court he a’t never say that [ __ ] to my face he a’t say directly to no teammates or nothing no not me he said it to Chris BOS he say crazy [ __ ] to
Chris BOS all the time okay you say crazy [ __ ] to Chris BOS all the time okay you know what I’m saying so that was that and that’s my teammate and I was I used to beg for CB just anything any kind of rebuttal [ __ ] you just start
Some [ __ ] yeah just say something CB I got your back soon as the [ __ ] pop off don’t you worry I’m here but you got to say something you know what I’m saying but just a level of disrespect man but as a basketball player as a basketball
Player now you got you can’t knock what the ticket did you know what I’m saying as as a but that crazy [ __ ] he used to say out of his mouth I Can’t Go For That under no circumstances you know what I’m saying now Paul that’s just a part of
The Rivalry at the end of the day it’s [ __ ] the whole other side not just half you know what I’m saying I don’t know I don’t know how to put one foot in and one foot out of that like if that’s your man and I don’t [ __ ] with him then
Nine times out of 10 no not nine 10 times out of 10 I probably don’t [ __ ] with you and at end of the day his situation kickstarted the whole thing and that just gave me a opportunity to act on the [ __ ] I was already feeling any [ __ ] is
People like you saw when they was sh on the thing they they thought like it was like something real deep with me and Paul like somebody took somebody’s girl or something it was all type of rumors cuz like we went for years we would get double test get thrown out we got kicked
Out the game and me uh Madison Square Garden on MLK day yeah that [ __ ] that was him and I was just there get your ass out the game yeah n he started that [ __ ] but I was just there but he I thought I thought he had some apolog just like he
Said so my thing was never with Paul Paul was just on the other side of that [ __ ] but like I said ticket just be talking crazy and I Can’t Go For That that’s funny I can’t go for that I mean you just seen shet talking about it the
Other day on the podcast of how the [ __ ] ticket used to say you know what I’m saying [ __ ] ass [ __ ] that [ __ ] sweet yeah what first of all but you got understand always like when I play against he always talk but I never it never seemed like he was
Talking to me you not like me and UD me and UD was them people that yeah about us he ain’t got [ __ ] like he could be over there around the corner talking some [ __ ] mother and we wait hold on who the [ __ ] he talking to how we just going
Understand put a name with that [ __ ] it’s going aggravate us that he’s doing that like like and it whoever like you done seen me do this before like look at this [ __ ] who he thinking and then I’m going be at him we we used to
Dunk and be like [ __ ] ass you know and whoever just even but it don’t even be a dunk black it ain’t even a dunk we just in we just in we just in the middle of the play this [ __ ] ass [ __ ] sweet come
To me let me get it let me get it I got a sweet [ __ ] on me right now throw me the ball throw me the ball [ __ ] [ __ ] the [Laughter] ball hey that’s you know what I’m saying that kind of sh I think that’s I think
That’s when you look at it that’s the biggest like when you talk about I was talking about this with my partner the other day like that’s one of the biggest differences in the era that we in now and our era like the [ __ ] he talking
About I know him and I used to do it and I know other players from my era that would do it he the type of person that he could be sitting at the crib and he watching it on TV look at this [ __ ] [ __ ] talking all that dumb ass [ __ ]
Like there a go with that F like he hyped like he we had that era we had people in the league that would get agitated sitting at home watching that [ __ ] on TV and carry that [ __ ] to the arena when we go see them [ __ ] next time try that [ __ ] tonight all that
[ __ ] he was talking other day I w’t see that [ __ ] tonight we talking to our teammates like this who you talking to our teammates like this Mike how many how many years you been out The League since how how many years you I don’t know
Seven he just went to the finals and he ain’t even a full year out the league so he still got the [ __ ] it take it’s going to take him like like four or five years till he finally just let it all go right now he still got it in him he
Still got the competitor in but it’s going to take him four five years to finally just let it go like man let me [ __ ] with [ __ ] over here he tapped me under the table hey watch this [ __ ] watch this [ __ ] ask ask up it’s the same [ __ ] that happened with
Dwight though that that little thing that happened with me and Dwight it was like what you said I sit at home I watch a lot of basketball we all know how Dwight is on the rebound he’ll grab you SL sling you down and all that [ __ ] so
I’ve been watching this man do this [ __ ] all year to people so I fire up so when I get to the game I know goddamn well he ain’t going to try me like this not to know he ain’t this [ __ ] got the nerd now if you look at the video I
Shook my head I said no cuz I was playing well you know I don’t play that much at that time but I’m I’m playing well yeah do I want to [ __ ] up what I got going on right now and I think to myself how I teach my young fellas don’t
Let nobody [ __ ] with you or try you cuz if you do they going to keep doing it at that point a decision was made I got to poke him in his [ __ ] eye got to poke him in his [ __ ] eye if I can I’ll poke your [ __ ] eyeball
Through your head you know what I’m saying cuz I asked him I said come on man I said come on and I approached him on some G [ __ ] like come on Dwight man we OG’s man with that [ __ ] like we we ain’t on that man like what what we
Doing dog what you going to do oh what I’m going to do now I’m poke your [ __ ] ey let let me ask you this since y y’all said the the James uh James Johnson uh yeah what you and Bam said cuz yeah man I love James like he’s such a good
Dude like a real good dude like him and his family he always family oriented he always respectful man I I love dude yeah you think Giannis would do that same [ __ ] again hell no with James under no circumstances that’s why indana went and sign JJ they knew what time it was that
[ __ ] happened the next day [ __ ] ran locker room when they went and got JJ hell no JJ with a tie his ass up in knots he would have ran up in there with that [ __ ] under no circumstances and the funny thing the funny thing is is literally a week after that happened
Orlando’s playing Indiana in Indiana and there’s some [ __ ] that happened at the end of half and the only person that stood at Center Court while everyone was getting off the court was JJ I said exactly why they side this and understand what his Ro that he ain’t playing that [ __ ] he understand what
His role is now you know what I’m saying understand what his role is now being in Indiana and why he’s there you know he’s there to be a mentor OG but he also there to be an enforcer and it’s it’s good to you know be in that role and
Collect 2 million you sitting on the couch I know what I want to ask you though oh here we go again I know what I want to ask you cuz I know I know I I I about lost my damn mind I hit I got to
Read the text I actually sent to him when spoke got that Brink truck backed up on him congratulations though man look that I told I text him I said godamn SPO you know like we know he a’t spending none of that boy look I I said let me hold $5 he got
120 going to pass away 118 man boy you know he going have all he going to pass away 18 18 for a spending no money I’m happy for him man well deserved well deserved [ __ ] I was there from the beginning I watched the whole process I watched the evolution of SPO I watched
The growth of SPO you know what I’m saying that [ __ ] is amazing when it comes to X’s and O’s and figuring out how to maximize the opportunities and the and the and the talent level of the team you know what I’m saying so I been there with him the whole time man the
Funny thing is when you were talking about who’s going to come out of the East and you and you said Miami obviously on seven game series like you can’t discount believable 100% that’s why he got 12 because you have a seven game series they have a chance cuz he going he going
To kill people in between in game like in game adjustments and between game adjustments he’s Elite yeah and we and we got a secret weapon me [ __ ] oh damn no the thing is crazy is like so what’s your percentage on that huh what’s your percentage on that on what
Cuz he got that 120 cuz you I wish black [ __ ] boy I would take I’ll take five [ __ ] I take five [ __ ] I wish I would I wish we was a package deal Dam he sit at the front of the bench I sit at the end
Everything in the middle we kept we kept that [ __ ] coetic I should have got something but it work like that Hey listen like he said I got so much respect for spoke like the crazy thing like my relationship was SP you would think I played like six years here or
Something I was here for one year remember SP wanted to beat up mik I had to put that out there what’s your relationship with spoke [ __ ] I love SPO man I love SPO no it’s just competitive [ __ ] you know what I mean like you come here you want a you want a bump
Like anything else like it was a tough one I was obviously I was injury lot but I didn’t I didn’t get the playing time I but I was thankful D up Micha SP went to square off had to get the gloves I but that’s that’s something else I
Respect about SPO like 100% SPO let like you remember I used to get into it with SPO a lot yeah I used to like but like SPO knew my heart was in the right place so he allowed that and he he would accept it like that like I I I respect
Coaches just like that did allow men to be as Asin [ __ ] and [ __ ] up [ __ ] but like he allowed that he welcome that challeng me he going go back and for whatever he [ __ ] you [ __ ] you and then it’s all good that [ __ ] was left yesterday he ain’t
Going to come in tomorrow and try to treat you like [ __ ] cuz y’all got into it he ain’t what’s the word they use in the NBA detrimental to the team you long as you Ain detrimental detrial to the team when I first got hit with that I was like what
The [ __ ] is detrimental conduct detrimental to I’m tell you the truth what what what one of my first thoughts was cuz like when he got the 120 I was like so damn like what that mean for the assistant coaches cuz I could have been
One of them like did I [ __ ] up like damn I was like you remember you I trying to get me for five straight I was like what hell does this work a great question curious I don’t know how down to the I don’t know how that work I don’t know
How that work but we we got a great staff you know what I’m saying so everybody has been everybody has been part of the success you know I’m saying that Quinny yeah CB now like that’s about my pay grade k I wish I I wish I
Knew that answer I’m not going to lie that was one of my like after the initial like woo Who H I thought about I was like wait a minute damn does that mean I was like get the upgrade hey we going to find out about how they approach the rest of the
Season we see the boys come in practice hey we going to find out what the boy bag look like we see with that intensity but hey I got I got to imagine that at some point those guys are going to be taken care of or they’re going to have
Opportunity to go somewhere else and and be taken care of so you know that’s part of the business you know that’s how that [ __ ] go no I was I was glad to see that man just just he never get the credit he deserves never never when you look at
All those coaches up there the papic and and the Williams and all those guys Steve K like conversation wise he was always up there financially he was never up there I don’t for whatever reason but he is now [ __ ] he done some past everybody so shout out to SP man my dog manra
Manra no let me hold something well fellas man we we appreciate y’all we could sit here and do this all damn day OG’s man we appreciate y’all coming in Knuckleheads check y’all out man see elad but thank you so much for coming in I have one question oh y’all been doing
Obviously the knuckle the Knuckleheads Man four years obviously like everything that the ups and the Downs you know what I’m saying what advice would y’all have for us who’s just getting into the podcast game the podcast life you know what I’m saying on camera off camera what advice would y’all have for us
Moving forward and embrace the responsibility of it cuz I feel like that’s what me and Q it just felt like that you know we A brotherhood we love having conversations with with y’all like I said we can talk hours and hours and hours and just embrace it you
Know Embrace everybody’s story to get it out there to help it get out there cuz you know everybody ain’t LeBron James or everybody not Michael Jordan and all us got stories you know what I’m saying all us might not be Hall of famous but all
Us got stories so we Embrace that and we feel like it’s a responsibility so long as y’all feel like it’s responsibility and you feel like y’all embracing it I feel like it’s that’s a dope way to look into it yeah I I agree with that like whatever whatever y’all angle however
Y’all you know what I’m saying whatever y’all purpose of it is just stay down with it you know what I’m saying like don’t cuz it’s the space is crazy crowded it’s crazy just every other day is whatever and it’s it’s cool we all could do it but it’s like you find you
Sometimes what I see is people doing things for clicks you know what I’m saying doing it for the don’t don’t I ain’t got to worri about that with y’all I know y’all but like that’s that’s my advice to anybody like don’t don’t try and jump on Trends or do [ __ ] to get
Clicks cuz like at the end of the day that [ __ ] GNA come and go you know what I’m saying but like and most of the if we being real most of the [ __ ] that really gets picked up is [ __ ] you know what I’m saying it’s like the
[ __ ] and like I feel like when he say the responsibility that’s our responsibility is to stay away from the [ __ ] and deliver just good [ __ ] like when we sit down and we sit down with any of our peers we going to try and glorify them to the highest because like
He said regardless if you was an Allstar Hall of Fame whatever like you still did some incredible [ __ ] it’s less than 5,000 of us my boy just walking around this planet period forever and each and every one of us got crazy detailed stories that that that that if people
Got to hear would enjoy it in one way or another from the way we came up from you know their personalities or whatever and what people had to go through like all that [ __ ] we feel like if we just sit down and talk to you we ain’t got to try
And get you we going to holl at you and get enough good [ __ ] and just let it go it should be just like we be having this conversation cameras weren’t there that’s what it is and exactly and we you know we just always trying to make sure
That when we do something with somebody we don’t want to put them in in No Type of Way like if it’s if it’s something in the interview that we think is like ah we’ll take that [ __ ] out instead of running it like we not going to run it
Cuz we don’t want that CL yeah it be a lot of [ __ ] be said though sometime we say we like because we don’t want it to be a a lightning ride for controversy like we taking [ __ ] out because we know how we can be somebody might say something about somebody like ah we
Can’t let that one hit the world like that we going to just keep that one away we don’t want it to be the [ __ ] you know like so you know just that but that’s that’s really it man cuz it’s like like you say it’s going to be
Always and then when you sit down you might sit down one time and some [ __ ] might happen like Dam what we going to do with this and it’s like you know the higher USS might be like yo this is going to be but you like nah we can’t
You know what I’m saying like that’s why I say just stay down man cuz it’s it’s going to come around anyway sure yeah we appreciate y’all man for real it’s love yeah we can’t through the OG Che appreciate y’all man appreciate y that 2000 draft my 2000 draft we got
Motherucker he hey that’s all good man I was watching I was watching you were a part of it I would I was well technically technically Nate tried me Nate Nate you tried me dog you told me you was gonna draft me I ain’t going to forget that [ __ ] that’s how I’m wild
What is the OG today we touch on thisday my OG yeah when that finger get hey my OG Talk of the day as we talked on it man and like black said earlier man it’s okay to elevate wow you know what I’m saying it’s okay it’s okay
To elevate man keeping it real can go wrong man stop trying to keep it real and just be real mhm you know what I’m saying stop trying when you trying to keep it real that’s when you [ __ ] up man don’t try to keep it real just be real
Keeping it real go wrong A lot of times man it’s better to go back and bring people out than to go back and stay you know what I’m saying it’s better to go back and bring people out than to go back and stay so keeping it real can go
Wrong don’t be trying to keep it real in this [ __ ] world just be real and be yourself OG word of the day all right man we appreciate that OG advice yes sir I tell you what I’m almost as shamed myself that we weren’t going to give people
That that advice that was my fault yeah they would have B yeah cuz everybody out here want to keep it real yeah right just be real anything else before you before we go no I think that’s it all right that’s it appreciate y’all man tune in Tuesday
Smokers Only OG’s out though for real appreciate y’all
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The Crossover we've been looking for The Knuckleheads and The OG's, this was 🔥 💯
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I am 💯 locked in – it's good to see all of us from all different backgrounds – we are all Miamians now so we have the sports in common (and our Gators ; ) – we all enjoy a laugh and a good story! 👋 🐊 😂 M.
Yo my man D Miles was in that MTV movie the perfect score with Chris Evans!😂 I’ll never forget
Paolo is an absolute beast and deserves all the recognition!!
This gone be a good one
I love this podcast bro LMAO
UD said ima poke his 👁 through his head 😂😂🌈
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Yo this show is too fire fr fr UD say some wild stuff lol miami af
Whoever filming and editing these vids need a raise fr! Attention to detail is impecable, lighting go crazy, that random panning shot wild… keep doing ur thing media team! This set and production too clean. And PLEASE keep bringing these bomb ass guests and stories coming!! We here for UD and the back stories!!!
UD knows damn well it was his weed. His homie bit the bullet and probably got a Ferrari out of it. Lol
Love love the pod.
Love this collab
you gotta get Dupay on the show
1:18:30 Qrich laugh man 😂😂😂😂😂
Man this episode became a Knuckleheads episode as soon Q and DmIles started asking questions instead of UD. These guys are now podcast vets
This life thing still lifing? Ok i tried see ya
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Franz Wagner is better than Paolo in my opinion
Ticket different 😂🤦🏾♂️
Nawwww this legendary man 🔥
58:03 – "cause you played there?" … DMiles says Clips, Miller says Denver, UD says Miami….. lol…. not a coincidence
Spolstradomus
Great interview , players who actually played and have sucess discussing the things and sharing stories we need more of it
Come on DMiles! You too close to Chicago to be wearing those Mexican Mikes fam, we don’t do that😫🤣
Cuz yaw have to get Jason Willams plz
Loving every second of it!
Needs more views 💎🔥
For everybody who doesn’t know Teddy Dupey. He is 5 foot 9 or 5 foot 10 at the most point guard out of Cape Coral Florida. The best shooter I ever seen.