We Saved NASCAR, Bad F1 Names, F1 Madrid is [REDACTED], Laguna Seca Sued – The Money Lap – S2E3

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Today’s Topics:
Finally! Some new reviews!
Parker is finally getting a diecast!
Clash at the Coliseum allowing fan attendance on Saturday, for free, thanks to The Money Lap! (allegedly)
Viewer Question: Should the Garage 56 car be in the Rolex 24?
NASCAR reprofiling parts of Watkins Glen with new rumble strips
Larson claims that some dirt track stars make more than half of the cup series drivers
NASCAR to debut EV prototype at the Clash
Colton Herta unable to secure Daytona 500 ride
Kyle Busch reveals the reason he left JGR
Visa CashApp RB is certainly a name for an F1 team.
Madrid’s sus track layout
Driving style differences between Verstappen and Hamilton
Simon Pagenaud health update
Laguna Seca dealing with NIMBYs who decided to move next to a race track, only to find out race tracks are LOUD!
Dakar is finished, Landon still confused about drivers
Rolex 24 this weekend!

Timestamps:
00:00 – Intro
01:13 – PR Lap
05:35 – Reviews
08:18 – SpoilerDiecast.com
11:06 – NASCAR: We Saved NASCAR, Clash announced free for fans to attend Saturday.
15:07 – Viewer Question: Why is Garage 56 not in Rolex 24?
17:18 – NASCAR is reprofiling Watkins Glen runoff
21:33 – Larson Claims some Dirt Track Stars make more than Cup Series
37:49 – NASCAR Testing EV Racecar and Debuting at Clash
40:52 – Colton Herta unable to secure a Daytona 500 deal
41:48 – Kyle Busch reveals reason why JGR deal fell apart
43:08 – FORMULA 1: RedBull’s terrible Team Name “Visa CashApp RB”
47:06 – Madrid to replace Barcelona, The Track design is shaped like a [REDACTED]
50:17 – Driving Differences between Hamilton and Verstappen, a debate.
1:06:40 – GLOBAL MOTORSPORT: Simon Pagenaud Health Update
1:07:37 – Laguna Seca is battling a legal battle, because NIMBYs moved next to a racetrack.
1:10:37 – Dakar Round Up!
1:11:31 – Rolex 24 look ahead, Brad Pitt to be there!
1:13:10 – Outro
1:13:46 – Outtake: Landon helps parker find a drift car

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The round bits region there at the bottom um and then sort of the the spherical bit goes out there are there are children listening there are my mother is listening to this yes that it looks like a finger all right we’re live hey I’m Parker cman joined as always by Landing

Castle this is our podcast about all Motorsports we dive into all of it on today’s show we have new reviews finally we we talk about free NASCAR races Kyle lson peels back the curtain on cup SE Series driver income we got indie car NASCAR crossover that didn’t happen Kyle

Bush’s almost big sponsor a new F1 track with a very questionable design uh Max for staffen versus leis Hamilton’s driving Styles and are we in the era of terrible F1 team names lastly we’ve got a little precursor to the Rolex 24 and Brad Pit let’s do it it’s money lap

Podcast we start with the pr lap Landon I love it let’s talk about you let’s talk about us oh us well me first I guess yeah I should start uh with what I did last week just a quick behind the scenes of what I’ve been doing uh if

You’ve been on my social media you may have noticed I was driving down to Virginia with my buddy Matt hardigree who’s the publisher at the utopian which is a new car website called the ultimate car culture website uh we went down and did a really cool deal with the

Diplomatic Security Services which are basically like the Secret Service except with one big difference they are constantly in hostile territory I went down there and did their training which was awesome they have this incredible facility that’s probably the ultimate driver training facility uh in the world and they are probably the leaders in

Driver training outside of anything racing wise um a lot of the people there that do the training are Motorsports fans that sort of stuff so it was a really cool adventure I also reviewing the 2024 Range Rover Sport which will be on the utopian here soon um and getting

To do a lot more car stuff many of you may remember I had a car show called Proving Grounds for three seasons on NBC Sports Matt hardigree was one of the producers on that and I wanted to get back into car stuff I’m glad to be doing

It finally have the time had the means had the opportunity uh with my friends at the utopian so I’m going to try to do a lot more of that here in uh in 2024 so and we just were discussing how you might be able to help me with some car

Stuff from Castle Motors so yeah and did I the lead no did did you re is this where you realize that you need help with drifting that you’re just not a drifty boy that is true no I’ve noticed this for a while and viewers of Proving Grounds would

Have been tricked into thinking I could drift better night I have because we had Lee Keane there who can drift really well but it’s really funny and I’m I don’t want to go too too deep into this because I’m going to we’re going to do some stuff around this

But drifting for me goes against everything of my natural intuition in terms of driving a race car right card gets into a slide I look left I correct the slide get car back straight as fast as possible so I can drive the fastest Corner POS you know way or thing

Possible I used to be able really be able to drift really well back in high school in snow with a car that you might help get again and I thought that would just be so natural to go drifting it has not been a natural process for me I

Don’t get to do it enough but this year I’ve decided is the year I get good at drifting whether it takes me a month or all the way till next December this December uh I’m going to get good at drifting so that’s all my my goals this

Year in top of winning nickv race there you go it make me a better driver it’ll make me a better race car driver I don’t know about you but drifting I found tough especially road cars for some reason so I’m going to get good at it

Though you know I’m I met uh I I haven’t talked to him in a while but um at one point in time I talked to Von getting Jor an awful lot and he um he was pretty well convinced that he’s got the best car control of anybody

In the world because of his drift drifting experience so H I’ve seen Lee Keen who was the third guy on Proving Grounds with Sam Smith and myself and did a lot of the drift stuff man he was on another level if that guy wanted to be a stunt driver in Hollywood no doubt

In my mind he could I think he’s done a little bit of it but just wasn’t into that world he we did the coin test with from D from driven you know where you try to pick up a coin with a tire a quarter I kid you not I think it was

Like three tries with a BMW M2 he nailed it it didn’t obviously go into the tire but he nailed it up into the camera a quarter at like 80 M an hour I’m not kidding and I was like so you’re saying that driven truly is a documentary in a

Real story actually a documentary and it’s what I want to do this year is that I want to get good Hollywood Cinema yeah that I want to be able to hit three coins on the track just like driven let’s get on with this show let’s get on

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Finally have a motorsport show that is pretty much year round keep it up for the years to come yes we are dedicated we haven’t even made it to one year yet that will be in May awesome and uh but the pretty much was because we did take

About 3 week break around the holidays we are human and that was nice it felt good here’s I like this review cuz rk24 said great perspective um I always appreciate the reviews that complement our deep dives into topics because you and I anybody that listens to us knows

How we can go down rabbit holes and really pick things apart or even take a really deep nuan perspective to topics I love arguing both sides of a topic um maybe it’s just like a personal challenge of mine to be to take one side of a debate and then to take the other

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Didn’t set out when we when we decided to start this I don’t think we set out to be activists I don’t I don’t really feel like I wanted to take on the responsibility of activism in our world and in our community um sometimes I think activism chooses you you don’t choose

Activism but after our um crack journalism is that what they say something like that yeah after our you know uh just pure love of the Sport and love of the industry and our journalistic research and getting um absolute Powerhouse of a journalist Bob pakus on our show last week in discussion about um

NASCAR’s peculiar decision to not allow fans uh Into The Clash heat race suspiciously simply hours after we did our broadcast and released our show NASCAR revers their decision and not just decided to allow fans in they’re going to they’re just going to open the gates and allow fans

Into the Heats at The Clash for free yep you know I I mean I’m not taking credit I don’t know I don’t want to say that the money lap you know is moving and shaking in the space um but we did it we saved NASCAR we saved NASCAR and we are really

Appreciative of the support out there and of course one of our most loyal listeners obviously is Ben kennedy so we appreciate that thank you very much for listening my man uh big fan of yours but you the one part about this that’s even cooler than anything else it’s going to

Be free you can go see Nascar Cup Series cars in person downtown LA doing practice heat races NASCAR Mexico all of it free I don’t think there is a time in the last 50 years you could see a NASCAR cup series car racing not just testing or practicing but racing literally Wheel

Tohe battle of the biggest stars in Nascar Cup Series free so that’s pretty cool thanks for listen I think it is awesome Ben we appreciate you and uh blink twice if you’re in Milwaukee I think um I I think we don’t have to spend too much time on this but

The last point I will make after we wrap a whole bow on this I think it was a total oversight from Nascar I don’t think it was a plan um I think it was a schedule change and uh you know they saw it they caught it they made a correction

And now it’s kind of interesting you’re you know hopefully hopefully a lot of people show up hopefully have 25,000 people I’d love that that’d be awesome and we like to say this the newsletters read by the industry insiders this podcast is listened to by industry insiders maybe the industry itself we do

Know that we do know that we do get we do get one thing okay before we can move on with our show the one thing that has blown me away about having a a newsletter and B a podcast is that people actually listen because the the the type of

People in my contact list that will text me and say that they listen to the podcast I’m like I had no idea that you would even be interested in listening to this show NASCAR Executives team presidents crew chiefs Engineers team members they uh you know people that love racing they

Want to hear about racing so it makes it fun the list goes on remember send it to three friends this is the podcast everyone’s listening to let’s move on uh we have a discussion topic request from a listener out there as we try to interject our community into this why is

NASCAR not demonstrating the garage 56 in the Rolex 24 does it even need to has it proven what it needs to prove um I’m just going to go out and limb I haven’t really researched this too much but I’m gonna essentially say that yes it proved what it needed to do it accomplished

What it wanted to what they wanted out of it and most of all it was about representing NASCAR you know an American stock car style car abroad in front of a huge International audience and that’s what it did it got the whole Motorsports world not just in the United States but

The world talking about it it won you know I think in so many respects I saw it winning you know internet Awards is the greatest moment in Motorsports in 2023 um it did everything everything you hoped and it spread the Great word of NASCAR to a whole new audience so no I

Don’t see any reason you know the Roy x24 being in their backyard um not a part you know although it had a record crowd last year a record crowd at the roar 24 this year and I’m assuming a record crowd will happen again that crowd very much overlaps with uh NASCAR

In general so I don’t see any reason ah had to run it yeah I I would agree I don’t think they have to do it again but I do look forward to whatever the next iteration of that car is you know do they mhm do they take a couple of them

To the 24 uh to Lal do they get their own class do they create their own class do they do the Rolex 24 who knows I I would love to see some further iteration we’ll see I just think it was also um quite expensive so I was just gonna say

That just say that as things in Motorsports here okay here’s an alternative answer to uh the listener’s question I hate that we didn’t uh give any credit to this question I don’t know who the listener was but but um why is NASCAR not demonstrating demonstrating garage 56 and Rolex 24 because it would

Probably cost about 300 Grand just to get the whole car down there in the team and put the thing on track there you go and that was Garrett smithley that reached out with that question oh so NASCAR driver listener to the money lab dedicated listener uh big deal big

Announcement so as of today it was announced that NASCAR is going to add some rumble strips in turn one at Watkins Glenn where we been going out into the runoff now from what I understand some drivers uh had an issue with us going out there in terms of how

It reprofiled the corner that sort of thing which I’m fine with because this from what I understand is attempt to B basically make a natural barrier that you don’t want to go over will we be saying there’s track limits will you have a line that if you cross over like

Formula 1 that you will then be dinged 5 seconds or your lap deleted no that will not be happening so this is not track limits it is a natural attempt at requiring cars to stay within the area that they want um we’ll see if it works

I have no I haven’t seen any particular of the particulars I guess this came from the driver Council um but I’m I’m open for it I’m all ears but I don’t want to ever hear about deleted laps from going over a line yeah deleted laps is stupid track limits is

Stupid Rumbles strips that are going to tear the whole bottom of the car I guess we’ll see what kind of rumble strips they are you know if they’re like full on turtles or just something that you know takes out some grip I would love to see grass out there what like just make

It grass that’s what it used to be well here’s the thing I think if it’s rumble strips if you just took the rumble strips and those went out 50 feet further you’re not going to run out there because when we go over the r about doing yeah if you go over the

Rumble strip there’s no grip like yeah there all you want but you’ll have no grip the exit curbing off of Turn one the the the exit curbing that we have which by the way it is wide it’s 8T wide ginormous it’s ginormous and it’s got huge

Deep um uh what what would you call it like channels in it grooves yeah Groves grooves it there’s it’s slick like you cannot get power down on it and actually part of the reason you go out so wide is to get to go over them and then get onto

The pavement right and then you come back on the track so I guess you’re right if they continue that just to be wider then then they should be fine um I think that would be that would completely accomplish what they’re hoping to do and I’m assuming that’s what they’re doing so moving on

With this topic are they doing something else with rumble strips too did did you mention that or there so there was one other thing mentioned in Bob pac’s tweet where he said essentially they were redoing some of the the curbing in the bus stop which I didn’t fully understand

I’m going to reserve judgment there because I I don’t know what the attempt is there um I don’t know if it’s trying to make it wider so you can go two by two whatever but I hope it doesn’t mean changing the entry portion which is the

Greatest thing to watch a stock car go all four tires in the air at 120 miles hour you know so a wild Corner oh it’s insane so I hope they don’t it’s nothing major like that but we’ll see I reserve judgment until I can see what they’re

Thinking there but the turn one was one was pretty easy to figure out if they’re talking about adding more Rumble stripping it just means extending out because that means you won’t be able to put the power down you won’t be incentivized to go out there simple Landon we just solved it

Once again you’re welcome saveing NASCAR that’s what we do here at muddy lab well that would be interesting hopefully it would be nice to see the cars stay on track off a turn one as long as they don’t end up like they did at Indie through the chicane there the

Whole sausage or whatever you call it no that’d be terrible no we don’t want to see that the uh actually you know that I posted that video how to make a pass using the bumper at at Watkins Glenn where I move Conor BAC out of the way

Off the s’s but we both go wide off of Turn one and there that video went slightly viral on Instagram and there’s so many comments from people that don’t watch Nascar they’re like wait why are they leaving the track what track limits question mark and it’s like no don’t got

Him bro nope don’t need that don’t need that [ __ ] here oh man um so Kyle ARS speak yeah we need to talk about this because we can have some fun with it we’ve alluded to this often on this show I believe and I think it’s disussed it’s just not discussed

Um very vocally and outwardly I think in the out there and that is what has sort of happened with Cup Series driver salaries income whatever you want to call it over the last 10 years and you know one of the biggest things that I think has really as we talk about the

Teams fighting Financial issues you know that has reverberated towards the drivers of course and sponsorship I think has always been one of the biggest things for driver income those have struggled in rear as all marketing throughout the world has changed and shifted digitally and that sort of stuff and so Kyle Larson

Uh on the Kenny Wallace show said at one point that he believed top dirt stars make more than half of the cup field now I believe what he means there is essentially in their salary their you know basic income from racing as a driver uh you know I don’t think it’s

Easy to quantify all the other out outside stuff but nonetheless I don’t think he’s wrong from the numbers I understand about some of these top dirt guys you know they are bringing home High six figures top top ones can be a seven figures but that but the the key thing

To note with them is that is merchandise sales as well that is you know racing 90 times a year that is you know these doing that and they’re they’re a small shop that can win big prize races 50 100 Grand you know there’s a million dollar

Race obviously and then they can sell 10 to 30 grand worth of t-shirts each night and it’s a little different model than a driver who is hired more like a traditional sports athlete think more like a quarterback who’s brought in here’s your salary here’s a bonus structure and if you need to sell

Partners you can but you know you’re not going to be out selling T-shirts out of a trailer yourself um so I don’t think he’s wrong it’s probably true uh yeah it’s it’s not wrong at all I mean if it obviously this headline that I’m reading here from Matt weav is

A tweet from Matt Weaver just says Kyle Larson says top dirt Stars Earn more than most than most NASCAR drivers it’s a pretty broad statement there’s no numbers thrown in there I don’t know if he if he rattles off any numbers in the article but I would say like you said okay if

We’re saying top dirt Stars making a million dollars a year I think um that doesn’t surprise me I think it’s important to understand that when it comes to merchandise sales the dirt Racers have a lot more freedom and control over their merchandise sales and NASCAR drivers right the rights to use images

Of the car um I think are a lot easier for them to obtain the simply the the rights to sell merchandise on property is probably the biggest one um the ability to actually sell out of their own trailers um to bring their own trailers and park them at the racetracks I think their

Relationships with the tracks and their ability to sell at at the track at a lower cost is way more uh viable for dirt Racers on a weekly basis than a NASCAR driver trying to sell merchandise um at Texas Motor Speedway at Daytona um the fees and the cost

Associated with that makes it pretty much a non-starter for NASCAR drivers so um you know selling merch for dirt racer is actually a Better Business um and I’ll bet you Kyle Larson probably makes more money off his dirt racing merchandise than he does his own NASCAR merchandise that would not

Surprise me guarantee it actually he own completely yeah I know the numbers he definitely does he definitely does um it’s almost and as far as earnings on the car dirt Racers they typically make 50% of um the prize money that’s just kind of a you know I’m sure every

Everything is unique so you know you could jump out and say oh no I know somebody else that makes something different but but generally speaking my understanding is they make 50% so you know you see a lot of5 10 $20,000 checks um that these dirt late model dirt Sprint car drivers usack

Whatever um those guys are generally earning 50% um they’re there’s a lot of unique deals too with sponsorships I know some dirt race race car drivers that um actually one in particular that I can think of where he basically operates the team for the team owner um because that’s the

Other thing you got to consider with a lot of these dirt drivers is they’re not all just arrive and drive drivers right like y NASCAR drivers are professional drivers in a sense that they don’t contribute I want to say they don’t contribute but they don’t build the car

They don’t set up the car they don’t you know fuel the holler Drive the huler book hotels you know bring their buddies with them to help be mechanics you know dirt Racers are still operating in a very a lot of them are still operating on a still a very Grassroots level where

Um yeah they’re the driver but they also run the team right they might even be the setup guy on the car and I know of one particular that’s a longtime professional dirt um uh usack driver and his arrangement with his team owners are typically something where he operates

The car for the guy that owns the equipment and owns the cars and his compensation to operate all of it is that he keeps the sponsorship money and he gets half half of the prize money right so yep you know he gets um $150,000 in sponsorship and then earns

You know another couple hundred, in earnings or maybe a couple hundred, in sponsorship and earns 100 or $200,000 in prize money um that he get keep half of it that’s how the guy makes you know two 300,000 in a year race and sprint cars pretty good living it’s not bad and yeah

He goes to a race shop every day he sets up his cars he builds his cars he keeps them together and um and there’s a car owner that you know wants to be a car owner and wants to be involved and that’s um that’s how the arrangement

Works yeah and I think what you pointed out is really important when you’re talking about world Outlaws and that sort of thing I was having this discussion with someone as well and I was trying to explain to them I’m like these aren’t large organizations often either you know these are small groups

And a lot of times it’s a couple mechanics but they’re dedicated to doing 90 races and they’re into it right and the driver as you put it is really integral you know to either driving the hall or you know I can think even Steve Kinser right who probably made a great living racing

Sprint cars winning 400 million championships um and smoking cigarettes the whole way which was one of the coolest things I’ve ever seen by the way side note but he uh you know he still probably was very integral to all the the Quaker State being his sponsor and

All those those things that went on so mhm I think it’s cool you know I think there’s two ways to look at this it’s very cool that dirt racing is so big and you can that it’s done it has such a great dedicated audience that you can

Make a living do it and there’s multiple people doing it and they can make a great good living to a great living um but I also think it is a problem for the Nascar Cup Series in the perception over the next couple years in that if it’s drivers you know it’s the most

Watched Motorsport in America but if the drivers are not paid or making the income of being the Stars at the level that this platform is supposedly supposed to be at right and the viewership says and all those things I think that is an odd scenario now does it matter will three million

People still still tune in on average and will there still be roughly 8 to 10 million people watching the Daytona 500 most likely and then it probably doesn’t matter but I do think it’s an odd situation to have a sport signing the biggest TV contract in its

History and yet you have onee top drivers saying he makes half of what he probably made in 2015 and that their half the field makes less than a dirt racer that no one in America has ever heard of you know I say America I mean mainstream Sports sorry dirt racing is

Very big and yes they can have huge fallings but my point being mainstream sports ESPN style stuff right mhm it’s just weird I don’t know I mean I think hockey’s gone through this I think you know they’ve had issues with compensation for their athletes um keeping up with the other sports but I

Just saw some stuff the other day that NASCAR’s viewership is bigger than hockey by a lot so it’s like they’re basically the Xfinity Series in terms of average viewership so I I don’t it’s a very odd thing and I know this is a discussion that’s happening throughout the sport

Constantly um and I think I think at some point everyone’s just got to be open about it and be like look these you know the top level at some point needs to decide to to find a way that or find Value in these or the drivers need to create that

Value or whatever but right now you know you’ve got 100,000 people on average going to races eight sellouts last year 3 million people watched on TV and apparently you know that’s the biggest Motorsport in America and you know after field is not doing better than dirt racing I don’t

Know I think it’s a very odd thing I I love you know we I love that we primed this earlier in this show for me to say that I love um trying to take Nuance stance I can argue any side of a topic so we’ve talked about this in the past

Um on this show of drivers being the stars and they should make I think I made this argument that drivers should make $10 million right because they’re the star but I I I want to step back in just a second and and simplify this and just say hey we’re getting paid a billion

Dollars for this well how much is the TV contract it’s 1.1 billion combining obviously trucks and xfin in there okay uh knock out 13 let’s use the one big number right let’s just say we’re getting we’re getting paid a billion for the sole reason that there’s a lot of eyeballs

That watch our sport oh hold on what Siri got something to chime in oh God I don’t know what’s happened here on we’re getting paid a billion dollars for the sole reason that a lot of eyeballs watch our sport right you you track in here I’m I’m listening my phone is freaking

Out so at the end of the day what are they tuning in for are they tuning in to watch cars are they tuning in to watch drivers are they tuning in to watch Engineers are they tuning in to watch crew chiefs are they tuning in to see these incredible venues right what

What are these fans what is it exactly that’s drawing a billion dollars worth of eyeballs and and it’s going the I mean the the Real the true answer is that it’s a combination of all of those things right but what is the right amount in each bucket right what’s the

Where is the incentive actually lie how much of that percentage of billion dollars of those eyeballs are tuning in because of drivers right Y is it 50% is it 10% is it 1% right because right now if you look at the amount of money that’s spent on

The sport out of that billion dollars that comes in right the amount of money that’s paid out and spent in the sport and that’s not I guess that’s not all the money that comes into the sport because you have sponsorship revenue and all this stuff but let’s just say that

Billion dollars that comes into the sport right there and then gets dispersed to the teams right what percentage of that is going to drivers 1% 2% 5% I don’t know I I guess we’d have to I’d have to pencil it out a little bit more but then you have to ask

Yourself is that if it’s 1% if it’s 2% if it’s you know 5% is that a is that in line with what Nascar thinks their drivers are valued at right is that in line are the drivers compensated um in the right manner compared to what they believe their impact

Is to justify that those eyeballs why those eyeballs are tuning in what they’re charging for I don’t know if I made any sense just now but no you did I we don’t we can move on because I’m sure people are tired of drivers talking about getting

Drivers getting paid but I think I know I to sum it up you made a great Point what is the percentage of value that you put drivers and that’s really where the discussion has to be and it’s you know driver contracts are not public so until you know unless that’s made public or

You have you know internally they’re able to to make some sort of guarantee on that percentage or whatever you know I think it’s going to continually be a topic because I think drivers in the boom time made a lot of their income because sponsors wanted to be there

Right and sponsors were normally tied to the driver right and the driver represented the sponsor and was in marketing programs and so on and so for and as you’ve had those leave I think that naturally was going to erode driver value and now there are drivers that are

Hired far more you know for their ability to Simply drive the car because there isn’t the sponsorship there that’s tied to that at the pointy end of the cup series um and can I frame this in one more way there go can I frame this

In one more way yeah let’s just say that NASCAR gets from this billion dollars NASCAR gets a certain amount of of dollars that they send to each team and they give a they’re giving a team $6 million in one year and they’re saying for this $6 million we’re compensating

You for elevating our sport right that’s that’s the compensation because Y what you know you’re we we need everybody needs to raise eyeballs to the sport that’s how we’re justifying what we got paid so we got to keep those eyeballs coming and if they take $6 million and

They only give 100 Grand of it to the driver what does that say about where like is that tell you that that the driver just doesn’t contribute at all to the eyeballs that we could do we could still get these same eyeballs we could still continue to justify a billion dollar

Uh a billion dollar TV contract with no matter who’s driving the car yep and maybe that’s the truth maybe that’s the case maybe the car is the show maybe the team is the show right and maybe the drivers are completely interchangeable I don’t know valueless apparently completely valueless nothing there nothing there

Sorry guys sorry us guess we’ll just head home that’s like the Doomsday scenario from uh from last week if you listened last week so we’ll leave that one I’m sure it will continue to come up and as I said at our first show of this year

My big topic that no one was talking about was the enthusiasm amongst the TV contract the teams getting what they want but there will be one team one group that will lose out on that and that is uh the drivers so yep um RI through a couple others yeah let’s

Go through some other some other NASCAR stuff NASCAR uh put out that they’ve been testing their EV race car test mule it will be debuting at The Clash David Reagan has been driving it did over three it did 340 laps over 3 days Bob pus reported um it’s got the compact

Utility vehicle body not specific to a manufacturer sort of a um crossover body for you car buyers out there um nobody knows what compact utility vehicle is unless I don’t I’ve never heard that one so no uh lap times on the third day were within a couple tents of a cup car uh

A couple tents of a second from a cup car and it looks like it’ll have lights and that looks fun so they’re also evaluating hydrogen combustible engine uh where NASCAR was over in um what is it Japan Japan investigating this studying H2 racing cool side note on that Alejandro AAG who founded

Formula E has been working on a hydrogen racing series as well with the Saudi Arabian government so an investment fund who who helped um f e get off the ground so I got an idea what about a racing what about a racing series that allows all of these propulsions no way and we

Just see which one can do the do the best you mean wait hold on let me just stop you there you mean basically you just say it has to have four wheels P running tires but you we’re going to run a 500 mile race May the best car win when I

Where I come from I I’m I grew up in in the midwest so we’re you know sometimes we’re awfully simple folk and at the around the short tracks where I grew up racing we call that the Run what you Brun class no way yes can we when can

Global Motorsports just go to run what you br and for all you budget-minded people spend too much money I who cares let’s just see a run what you br I want it I want that I desperately want that I this is what Motorsport was built on you

Go back to the earliest days it was about trying to build the best thing that you could humanly possibly build right and now we’ve gotten to this boxed off area of your your joke we either have too many rules or not enough um and with what’s happening with electric

Hydrogen obviously in the internal com engine it’s like wait a second maybe it’s all coming back to us maybe we can go back to the idea of what is the fastest way to do 500 miles at Daytona what is the fastest way to do 500 miles

At the Anapolis 500 what is the best way to get through 24 hours at the Rolex at Daytona at the Lal 24-hour at the nurur green 24h hour damn that’s a dream I don’t know if it’ll happen I got all excited for a second speaking of crossover in racing uh

Colton Hera let it be known that he tried to land a deal for the Daytona 500 didn’t happen for him that was at Rolex 24 media day you’ll be able which means he was short by anywhere from 500 to 750,000 I actually think not just money think about just cars where are you

Going to get a car right now I I actually believe truly you know you’ve got a bit of a a shortage in just who can put a car together um in that sense what what what kind of bull craap are you talking about well I’m just saying I

I think if walked up with half a million there has never not been a car for somebody who had the money that’s true he was I hope to see Colton in a car in a in a NASCAR I think that would be cool um I don’t know why he didn’t get a ride

In Daytona but chances are it’s because he didn’t have between 500 and 700,000 speaking of driver contracts that was a large one uh that he had accomplished in indie car and currently going through so his was he was on the the other end of the Spectrum in that

World uh also sponsorship related Kyle Bush let it be known that his Joe Gibbs Racing deal fell through when they put all of their faith in signing Oracle as a sponsor this is from Jeff Gluck his quote I’m being frank and it might bite me in the butt but they put all their

Eggs in one basket with the Oracle deal now that was rumored at the time that Oracle was the prospective sponsor um and it was rumored for a couple months uh internally within the sport and then eventually externally and you know that would have been a big deal huge get for

NASCAR to have a tech company of that that size um who is it Larry Allison is the head of Oracle he also funds the sale GP deal that I went and did a deal with last year um big in the sailboat racing and such that would have been

Massive sponsor of obviously Red Bull F1 team uh but it didn’t happen so yeah I feel like that deal petered out and we didn’t before we ever really got to hear any juicy details so that’s too bad check out the athletic Jeff Gluck article to get more of the juice

There uh maybe it’s because they did the Red Bull deal I don’t remember the timing exactly but that could have been it speaking of Red Bull and ter well title sponsor slth idea of terrible names I referenced it at the beginning could we be entering the era of horrible

Team names in F1 well welcome to Visa cash app RB the replacement for alphat Tori potentially um I I don’t even know where to start I mean I don’t mind title sponsorship and I don’t mind but when you just negate to have any identification whatsoever in the name I just don’t

Understand um and also side note is this Red Bull sort of putting on a uh fake mustache for their second F1 team entry yeah they are getting called out hard on that so Zack Brown and McLaren have been going after them and I think this is going to continue with the budget cap

And the idea that they’re basically two F1 teams sharing resources uh you know just a little background alphat Tori which used to be Tor Roso before that was minardi they were out of fenza Italy fenza um and they were the Red Bull B team for a long

Time and really just for Red Bull to have dve D and Engineering talent and that sort of thing but it’s gotten so close and with the budget cap it’s sort of starting to run into an area where they’re essentially running four cars um and I think that’s some of the contention

And they are getting closer together and so you also have a little bit of the the political undertone where you have a full self-sufficient team like andred that would like to come in but instead there’s a group of two F1 teams that can’t come in so because he you know

That have two F1 teams and therefore the secondary team is never going to be allowed to outrun the first team right um unless something went completely cattywampus so I get that I should also say this article was from the race Beast the cash app RB would be the worst name

In F1 history the ads on the article plastered every single ad on this article is from stake F1 team taking over the grid also a terrible F1 name their logo looks like uh they went to Fiverr and said make me a logo for my Instagram ad company exactly

Yes but it’s take F1 team which was um is sort of a placeholder well that’s that it’s a betting app Drake is in it oh okay okay um and kick I think is somehow related to steak or they’re they’re within they have a stake in kick or kick

Has a steak in steak I hold on to s hold on a second is this what is this what like second tier F1 teams are doing now because they don’t have top tier manufacturer support to just name themselves after the manufacturer that they’re selling the naming rights of the

Teams to their primary sponsor cash in well this is I’m surprised that we’ve never seen a NASCAR team really do this I have actually same thing and the I suggested it in fact I’ve pitched it before to sponsors and I’ve never been able to sell

It cu wasn’t there yet I know I’m trying to remember who we pitched this I pitched this to somebody I think at either at humanman racing or somewhere um that we were going to include the the sponsor name in the title and in the name of the race team

Gosh I cannot remember didn’t go anywhere uh yeah I should say I was going to tell you that this is sort of a placeholder stake F1 team before Audi comes in 2026 so there was some rumors Audi was pulling out but it sounds like they’re committed they’re coming in 2026

They’ll be taking over saber which became stake which then becomes Audi so I don’t see I don’t see stake being there when Audi wants to be there uh they’re just cashing in for two years but some of the biggest news landed uh in Formula 1 this week was

That Barcelona is to be replaced by a Madrid hybrid Street course now there’s no other way to put this other than the design of this racetrack from an aerial view looks very much like a gentleman’s appendage um and I just think they probably going to have to change this

Thing because if this ends up anywhere in terms of merchandise um trophies I don’t see it I don’t know what kind of Welles you were just to look at the bottom part to be sort of uh you know the describe it in more detail for me please Parker it would be

The the round bits region there at the bottom um and then sort of the the sperical bit goes out there are there are children listening there are my mother is listening to this yes that it looks like a finger almost um it does look like it

It would have had ponis which is an add on Peron diseas is an add on uh NASCAR races all the time but it’s I I think it it’s pretty easy where exactly where exactly is this racetrack they so they’re calling it a hybrid Street course it why is it a

Hybrid Street course well the bit there that would be the the finger portion of the gentleman’s appendage uh that is actually on like a like non-residential Road area like it’s just land they bought and they’re going to add some racetrack in there it’s sort of like um

Lamal you know how lamal is the circuit is one piece and then you have the rest is Road like actual uh streets it looks like it’s a similar thing you’re in streets and then you go into an area where they basically built it or like the Los Vegas GP producer Josh just said

So I surprised we’re still allowed to record after what I’ve said about this but we haven’t gotten shut down yet yeah this is the first time I’ve been able to say that term on the podcast I’m pretty happy about it so we’ll see uh it looks like a tight track as well doesn’t

Have the big flowy Straits with the with the 90 Corners like we’ve seen be so successful so looks a little bit more like Miami which means it’ll be a procession um yeah I never thought gentleman’s look would be the right one yeah I mean I feel like they ruined they might have

Ruined one opportunity to have a really long fast section by just having a uh that’s little chicane On The Backs side what section is of the track um I’m looking at the base of this thing that would be where you cup that part with your hand yeah okay just saying the ba

The Bas bit yes okay all right wow that was a PG13 let’s move to the next um we found L’s limit yeah I just cannot uh so Mark Hughes talked about the difference between Max for stappen and Lewis Hamilton’s driving style um as retweeted by F1 guy

Dan what do you think of this Parker so I appreciate his knowledge and I appreciate when journalists try to dissect a driving style um but I I struggled with it and I think it it’s often these sorts of things are written by people who have never competitively driven race cars or

Have for gotten where race cars have gotten because there’s a bit in this that’s about being early or late on the brakes let me just help you all out with that myth there is no such thing especially in Formula 1 Breaking in Formula 1 is a is a is almost a uh

Binary approach especially at your initial application of the breake it is a full amount of pressure at 90% 90% of the corners they go to it looks like a Peak at full pressure using all the downforce and then where they make their money is actually on the the releasing

The break that is where really good breaking drivers in Indie Car in you know High down Force sports cars prototypes and form one make their money they do it from the point of which where everyone’s pretty usually close on that initial application but is from that point onward as the downforce is

Releasing from the car how can you perfectly release that break in tand with that to allow the max amount of speed to be rolled to the apex of the corner and to slow the car down in the shortest amount of time without slipping the tire right that’s the basis

Basically of every racing car but especially High downforce cars in this this this essay it basically says that that ver stappen is earlier on the breaks versus Lewis being later and then that allows an earlier Turnin I just I I don’t agree with any of that so um I

Personally haven’t been able to see data that I trust well enough to make this determination between these two I have obviously seen differences in corner approach but I often think that more has to do with the car in that neither of them are in the same race car and

Therefore especially in Formula 1 where there’s so much differences between the cars a slightly ear earlier Turnin to me could be a car that just has a bit of under steer and they’re approaching they’re adjusting for that uh a later Turnin on a car could just be a car that

Actually has more stability and is allowing the car to be pitched in at a later larger angle um you know I I love driving style stuff but I don’t think the way this was written really encapsulates what actually we mean by driving style now one thing I will talk

About is he when he talks about early Turnin versus late some of that to me can be an area for driving style and that is a driver that maybe likes to pitch a car with a little bit more wheel force a little faster hands on the entry

To set it on the rear tires that sort of thing now that can also be dependent on car and design but but I think for for my point of view you know that that’s the areas that allow some of that driving style but to talk about early or

Late on the brakes that is not the right term there is no Formula 1 driver currently in Formula 1 that is going to be there longer than 33 milliseconds that is considered an early breaker that just does not happen do you agree or disagree you seem to disagree with me your

Face no I think that um what I agree with you on I don’t know I think that you’re trying to Remove I don’t I don’t know I I disagree with you in a sense that like I think they both kind of saying the same thing about breaking where it’s just it’s the thing that I agree with what at the first part of this little essay was that

The majority of time in especially in road racing and high down for sports car racing for One racing I think the majority of time for drivers to gain and lose speed on a racetrack is in the breaking Zone it’s just through the breaking Zone even in a Formula 1 car

Where braking is highly cap there’s a ton of capability downforce all this stuff like you said it’s it seems binary um it’s down to milliseconds because their break their their Brak zones are so short um it’s still that’s where all the speed is gained to me in my opinion

That’s where the most the the most uh juice is there to score squeeze I guess U to be squeezed uh and so in that includes what you’re saying the break release which to me is probably the the the where I will agree with you is that it’s the not the

Initial application of the brakes but it’s everything that happens after that the modulation through the brakes the brake release the timing of it all the turn the turn in and where you make it all happen that is all of that coming together is the magic right so yeah I

Mean what I what I don’t I think what I thought found interesting about um Mark’s breakdown here is his kind of blanket statement about Lewis Hamilton being a late turn-in driver right putting a ton of making a lot of ask of the rear tires on turnning on ini turn

In um and then that sort of trending his team to always have to shift rear Arrow balance to the car um and you know keep make it difficult for him to keep rear tires on the car I thought that was a pretty interesting point you know I mean I I I feel

Like I thought I saw that over the course of the year in the Mercedes and some onboard footage that I saw like I I wouldn’t NE say the late Turnin part um as much as the quick hands it looked like Lewis is trying to carry a lot of

High M High mid Corner speed um and with a car that wasn’t turning really great mechanically with the front tires right like I thought he had a lot of wheel input in the middle of the corner and so if he’s a you know if he’s turning in really

Aggressively and causing his team to have to tighten the car up for him um and it’s sacrificing his ability to rotate in the middle of the corner right now with whatever design car they’re dealing with um then I could see that I could understand that but um you know I

Didn’t I so I didn’t think anything was standing out too like egregious to me in this letter but but you know without with you without disagree but here here’s why here’s why I got to disagree because I’m I’m sorry there’s just no no way you would be allowed to be in

Formula 1 right now in 2024 if you broke earlier like car has to be driven to the maximum breaking potential it has to be you know that portion of me just it negates everything else that said now I can agree with you that the money you

Know that what I’m trying to say is that if I if I took a 50 F1 drivers current SL test drivers I guarantee you if they all in the exact same car at the exact same point into the exact same corner they would all be within a fraction almost an unrecognizable difference in

Terms of breaking point and application hang on no you’re this no you’re so wrong I’m telling you you’re not even you’re first of all it’s like what is earlier Define earlier because they’re I like I get that it’s F1 I get that they’re the upper echelon of talent

And ability and race cars and all this stuff but it’s like they’re it’s still it’s not they’re still human beings there’re still machines they can’t there’s there’s the deepest Breakers and there’s the earliest Breakers and there’s and there’s people in between right they’re not all Breaking at the

Same point even if it’s down to a matter of feet and we can see it in the data right like I’m say I don’t think anyone’s inherent to be like a I guess yeah okay there is going to be some variation and I guess what is your

Percentage variation is a good point you bring that up I just think it’s odd to me to take two top guys it’s odd to me to take two top guys and to say that there’s enough variation in that breaking oh my my camera just broke hold

On there we go I knocked it out to say there’s enough variation in that breaking to say that’s a style difference in that initial application I just I struggle with it because that you know the cars can be so different I think all the other stuff you’re talking about makes sense but to

Say early or late breaker I just I don’t I I mean okay when me maybe we put this different way maybe there’s a box I’m talking a percentage of of 3% where it’s like that’s the break application area now is one sometimes a little later one a little earlier than there sure I’ll

Give you that but I don’t think it’s a it’s a large enough difference to say that is a style thing that is just simply one got the max out of that breaking Zone and if they were able to carry that all the way through the corner everything that car was capable

Of doing that the other wasn’t but I don’t think I don’t think that’s a style thing I don’t think it’s a style thing I think there’s a Max breaking point for that car there’s a breaking point for that car and then what you do from that

Point onward that is where you make the money do you think that Mercedes do you think that Mercedes builds to I guess to what degree do you think Mercedes builds their car around Lewis’s driving style and to what degree do you think Red Bull builds their car around Max’s driving

Style I think the team will tell you they don’t build it to either’s driving style they just build the f car they possibly can right so do you think that’s true I think there are or do you think they have set up to ultimately set the car up

Well yeah I’m not talking about the design of the car but like ultimately the driver’s giving feedback on the setup do you think that the driver’s driving style is influencing the setup at all I think the setup 100% yes okay I think the driver will ask for certain

Things yeah so if I wanted to support what Mark Hugh is saying here here’s my interpretation of what he’s saying is that Max Fades the car into the corner more so than Lewis right I can see that so yep and and actually you and I have had this conversation that’s not

I’m not trying to compare myself to Max for stappen but you know how you know how I’ve talked about how how difficult it is for me to be a 99.9% breaker threshold breaker but how good I am at being a 90% threshold breaker right and that’s why I’m good at

Those tracks where you fade a car into the corner right like New Hampshire and Phoenix right but then you take a track where you have a straight on breaking and I that’s where I struggle a little bit more right with you and I had that conversation what so my interpretation

Of what Mark is saying is that Max is really good at breaking a car with some angle fading it into the corner and having some kind of like lateral requirement of the car under braking and he’s really good at maximizing the speed in that braking in that style of braking zone so he’s

Shaping almost every corner to to sort of fit that style and then obviously his car has been balanced to accommodate that and then on the flip side Lewis is a type of driver who is going to break break a little bit deeper because he breaks straight right that’s that’s

Physics you can if you break straight you can break deeper right like you can slow down faster tires don’t like to be slowed down and scrub with slip angle at the same time right so what he’s saying is Lewis breaks just a little bit deeper but he breaks straighter and then he

Turns in harder right to me that sounds like yep right and that’s what I’m and and and that’s where I was saying that like to me Lewis Hamilton breaks a little bit later if if I’m interpretating Mark and this is tying it together with what I think that I saw

With onboard footage from last year he breaks a little bit straighter a little bit later he gets the car slowed down quicker because he’s able to keep it straight but then he’s asking too much of the car through the middle of the corner right he’s making the car he’s

Asking for like a really high minimum speed through the corner and and the cars too tight to do that because he has this aggressive Turnin so they have to have the car Arrow balance tight to be able to support that and uh and he’s probably asking for too much Min Min speed

Right um that I don’t know it’s I I I actually I think you’re starting to make sense for me because I it is historically known that Max can deal with a little bit more of a over steer condition on Entry so we know that we

Know he likes a car that has a very positive front end that is a given that Sergio Perez has talked about struggling with that you know the car being just too loose at times overseer whichever term you want to use so I get that and I think that’s where the the terminology

Is the problem I guess is what we’re having an issue with saying you’re there’s early and late Breakers no I don’t want fans to think like one guy just has all the balls in the world and just like I break 20 feet later every time it’s like it’s not the case it’s

Shaping the corner differently that’s what we’re trying to say Y and you’re sayic exactly is shaping the corner differently than Max does and that’s their natural tendencies just like you just said you and myself I’m definitely more of the straight breing High you know High deceleration rate sort of

Driver I struggle more at places like Phoenix and New Hampshire because it’s fading the car in and I I struggle by using too much brake often so that makes total sense here’s the triggers for me let let me simplify the difference between fading a car and then

Decelerating a car and and being a a short track Late Model guy I think this is what trained me right like mhm what I look for into a corner is just that weight against my shoulder right like I want to feel a heavier weight on my shoulder so that means I know I’m

Pulling more g-forces I’m making more grip with the car so that’s me looking to fade the car into the corner right by feeling it on my right shoulder where a driver like yourself or AJ almond Dinger who comes from a road course racing background right you might be looking

For the weight in the seat belts to gauge like your slowing the car down as quickly as possible right so I’m going to get in as deep as I can and slow it down as quickly as possible and then I’ll worry about turning into the corner

Yeah um and that’s that could be the feel that those drivers are looking at so you know to me it seems like I I I feel like I learned something about Max for stappen by reading that because I’m like oh I didn’t know he Fades the car into the corner quite like

That like I knew that about Lewis but I think I’ve probably watched Lewis a little bit more than I’ve watched Max what we established is we are basically Lewis Hamilton Max for stappen on this podcast in driving style so you’re Max I’m Le and guess what we should just

Give some numbers to the fans out there as we move on Lewis Hamilton entered F1 in 2007 Max rest stappen joined in 2015 yet they owned 14.3% of all race wins in F1 history since 2007 they have won 47.1% of all the races since 2015 they have won 67% of all the races

So we we you and I are dominating F1 if we uh if we’re put there so it’s all we need to know I would have beat you there though uh by the way by a couple years amazing even even our base is the same age uh just some things quickly to run

Through something nice I saw on social media uh this week was Simon Pino uh released an update since he’s been out of a race car from that Mid Ohio crash uh with concussion like symptoms and has been fighting those symptoms since um you know we hadn’t heard much from him

But he said he’s still working through it and that the are days that are better still some that are tough and obviously he looks and is able to you know do things in life but there are certain things that are just not correct yet and

So he’s continued to work on it U wants to get back to 100% to be able to go out there and try and uh run in top level Motorsport so wishing him the best and hoping can uh you know continue his recovery and and speed it up and see if

He can get back so that was a vicious wreck and you hate seeing that so wish you the best Simon um more Global Motorsports stuff out there some sort of special kind of stupid it must be if you move near a racetrack and then after living next this racetrack decide

You know what I don’t like racetrack noises well this is the situation from the Highway 68 Coalition a group of nearby property owners near Laguna sea Raceway in montere California the group is suing to end racing entirely arguing that the circuit doesn’t abide by the environmental ordinances they claim the

Circuit is a public nuisance this might be the oldest story in all of Motorsports right now track is there half a century longer sometimes people move in and decide they don’t like the track but the track was there before you so get and I won’t say the full thing but you know [Laughter]

What oh man it’s it’s a tale as oldest time yeah I’m looking at some of the responses here from Laguna sea uh Ross Merill who’s the president of the fls now I should mention Laguna I believe is basically like a publicly owned facility at this point

Um on a state park is what my producer Josh is letting me know so that’s right it’s on a state park and so Ross Merill who’s the president of the fls said we live here too and share the same concerns as our neighbors about noise and traffic our teamed of experienced

Business and Community leaders are eager to move forward to revive this Staple in our community for decades for future success and revenue generation for Monterey County F fls states that is bound in the concession agreement to the historical usage of Laguna sea recreational area and the existing policies limiting attendance and sound

Of the park and is required under contract to invest in the facilities and infrastructure including a sound study in noise mitigation um a spokesman for montere County told sfgate.com that it is unfortunate certain individuals have chosen to file a complaint against the county concerning operation luguna and

That it does not recognize any Merit to the allegations in expects a favorable legal conclusion uh FS means friends of Laguna Sega I don’t know is this one of those things that like maybe black rock is behind it or something trying to buy a bunch of valuable property more houses that’s

That’s deep state conspiracy stuff right there as they they go on their spree of buying housing around the United States um but let’s work this out tell Coalition 68 whoever you are shove it and let’s go back to racing I would love to see a NASCAR race the good s I’ve

Said that for many years I think if we ever can’t go to Soma for some reason two hours the other way basically from San Francisco is Laguna Seiko one of the coolest tracks I’ve ever been to so um the Paris Dakar it completed and actually not the Paris Dakar anymore

Just the dhar route sorry I’m gonna and I’m going to be honest with you I don’t you might be the only person other than Kyle at the money lab who is crazy enough to follow this race in its entirety uh the only thing I can contribute to D car is that an American

One he did isack yep so it’s his second one uh which is pretty cool congratulations to him uh and your favorite racer in the cars Carlos sence senior was able to win in the cars so good for him Junior was there to celebrate by the way they did a nice shot

Of that’s what I meant doing some offseason racing yeah no that’s what I meant it was cool for him to be there uh there’s some last bits I’m heading to the Rolex 24 this weekend I’ll be pit reporting late into the night uh on NBC USA coverage starts

Saturday at 1:30 I want to say um but some record speeds at the qualifying at the roar before the 24 this past Sunday pipo danani set a new track record for prototypes in the GTP class at 1326 they also had record qualifying times in GTD Pro and GTD it was super

Cold um the GTP cars are going over 200 miles hour on the straightaways which is pretty awesome it looks like Cadillac has the is the car to beat in the GTP class can Porsche Acura figure it out I don’t know we’ll see uh the field of drivers insane we’ve already been over

That but just so you know it’s insane um and tomorrow Wednesday or when you listen to this Wednesday January 4 there’ll be a new column for myself and the money laap newsletter about the Rolex 24 also Landon you and I won’t be the most famous people that have graced

Daytona after this you know who’s goingon to be there who’s that Patrick Dempsey no he’s already been there Brad Pit will be at the Rolex 24 apparently I’m being told so we will see the F1 movie that’s being filmed has a is apparently involved sports car racing uh

And that a grizzled veteran comes out of sports car racing to save F1 I don’t know something one of those lines sounds like driven the documentary sound ding okay Brad don’t mess it up we’re counting on you don’t make us look bad we’re all counting on you all right man

That’s it in the budy lap podcast we’re out of here peace see you next week oh Kyle no wait a second you time again Kyle Bush next time buddy thanks for listening the money laap as always check out the money.com for the best five minutes in Motorsports or sometimes just the

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