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The Los Angeles Chargers hired Michigan HC Jim Harbaugh as their next head coach on a five-year contract. Emmanuel Acho, Joy Taylor, James Jones, and LeSean McCoy ask if Chargers QB Justin Herbert is out of excuses if he doesn’t perform well under the new regime.

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Jim Harbaugh who is he exactly he’s a guy who always wins go back to about 2008 2009 when he was at Stanford with Andrew luck he brought Stanford their first 12- win season in the school’s history they were a top five team for the first time in 70 years but after

Stanford he went to the NFL see there he brought the San Francisco 49ers back to the Super Bowl Alex Smith was a bust he was a bust and he became a 13- win quarterback the ners hadn’t been to the Super Bowl in 18 years prior to Jim

Ball’s arrival onto the scene but even after Alex Smith even after Alex Smith with Colin Kaepernick where once again he dominated but then move on to college so he could write his wrongs of his past Michigan they couldn’t win nothing nothing and JJ McCarthy he turns him into a national champion Andrew Luck

Winner Alex Smith winner Colin Kaepernick winner JJ McCarthy winner so this brings us to Justin Herbert Chargers quarterback as talented as he is he don’t win no games fam 30 and 33 as a starter so now you have this Unstoppable force in Jim Harbaugh and you have an immovable object in Justin

Herbert’s winning percentage can Harbaugh rescue a man Herbert that’s the question you have to ask yourself on this phenomenal sports day heading to the desk James Jones How We Living big dog man we living good what’s going down it’s all good it’s all good Jord Taylor how are we feeling great feeling great

We’re all the pre-show energy pre-show making it all moody in here with the light the light of older okay serious on right there the spotlight we got to set the tone this is a very serious hire you know what I mean back y don’t know about I’m ready to

Roll I’m ready for work they laughing playing two let’s get to work then we all know that Jim Harbaugh has brought in was brought in to save the day is Justin Herbert officially out of excuses cuz this hiring right here is huge big dog my shoulders is up hey real quick

Before we start how’s my posture it looks great all right looks great one of the one of the boss say sh you’re doing a good job but you got your posture together so okay um I’m I’mma say yes this should be a layup there you go

James here you go this should be a layup this should be an easy one yes no more excuses Herbert is that type of talent where it’s like generational hard to find a guy that got that type of height that type of pass type of arm right type

Of smarts and he he’s mobile enough and he got good hair so I think that right now from Jim Harbor all he does is win yeah you talk to aut quarterback up there he’s he’s way better them dudes he I watched him take a guy like Kaepernick and and made

Him a a household name even before the Ning and all that like it was a point in a time where like Kaepernick was talked about a little bit as a quarterback right and then you know what type of talent that He had so you look at a guy

Like Herbert he should do a lot of big things with him the only thing I gotta say though is at the end of the day man the Chiefs are in that division true Patrick Mahomes is in that division Andy Reid is in that Division and I one thing

I know about Andy re man he loves to even though he comes off as a good guy and all that he’s a competitor yeah he would love to give Jim Harbaugh a nice little present welcome welcome to this division with a lot of L it’s the truth

But is we will we’ll get into that cuz that’s a very good point we will get in that where do you stand on this is Herbert finally out of excuses yes uh look he’s he’s kind of had a I don’t want to say a rough go cuz he’s being

Paid a lot of money lot lot so he compensated for his his troubles yeah yeah but he has this is his fourth coach of count interim like he’s he’s gone through some coaches with the Chargers the Chargers have a lot of talent there they haven’t been able to put it

Together you guys know how hard it is to bring in a new coach particularly if you’re at the quarterback position to get into a new system and there’s all these adjustments and you got to learn learn new languages and there’s all the already the pressure of him being

Somebody that we considered a high level Talent so yes he’s out of excuses but is it excuses or is it reasons like we we want him to be better and further along than he is but I think if we just zoom out a little bit some of the blame has

Been on him the ball was in his hands in some big moments and he wasn’t able to get it done for sure he didn’t win that playoff game that I feel like is is on him you know you get paid this money you this talent and the big moments you’re

Supposed to win but overall organizationally I can’t all him because I’ve watched this organization do this with a lot of different quarterbacks for a very long time and a lot of different coaches and a lot of different systems and they kind of perennially disappoint so I do think this is a great situation

For Justin Herbert I do think that the excuses are off the table because of the level of level of coaching that we know that Harbaugh brings to the table and the level of culture like he is a he’s not just somebody that comes in and fixes a particular player he really

Creates an identity for a team so I think it’s is a great situation for Justin Herbert yeah this Shady said it this ain’t even close man this is not even lay the excuses is it’s a layup roll you want it’s a layup you talking about Colin Kaepernick

Right he don’t got the talent Justin Herbert has we talking Alex Smith he don’t got the type of talent Justin Herbert has we talking Andrew Luck he got talent but you still might say he don’t got the type of talent that Justin Herbert has get easy he he wins a little

Bit more but we talking strictly Talent we talking Talent right here my kids play mad and when I go down there and they creating players I’m like that look like Justin Herbert 6ck six big arm can move a little bit ball placement wherever you want to put it at

Like he’s a created player that no coach has got the best out of yet when you look at Colin Kaepernick under hard ball he 25 and 14 without him three and 16 right everywhere he’s been hard ball has won yeah and won at a high level he

Took Colin Kaepernick to the Super Bowl yes sir he took Alex Smith to the NFC Championship true like everywhere he goes he wins he just came from a national championship he won so right now we can sit here and say Brandon Staley was the coach and a lot of this

Stuff goes on the coach if this don’t work out it’s gonna be conversations to where maybe Herbert ain’t the guy even though Herbert is that talented and and we see all these special throws and most in four years as a quarterback throwing passing yards we are going to start

Saying is he the guy that can win a Super Bowl or help a franchise win a Super Bowl if hard ball cannot get the best out of all the pressures on him this is this is this is easy it’s interesting I don’t know that we’ll

Still ask is he the guy I think once in for all people will know he’s not the guy cuz I’ve been saying for for years now that I don’t believe that Herbert is in fact the guy that everybody makes him out to be Herbert’s out of excuses

Herbert to me this year is Lamar Jackson last year Lamar Jackson got the paper he wanted Herbert got the paper he wanted Lamar Jackson got a new offensive coordinator a new coach offensively Herbert got a new coach particularly system systematically from top to bottom Lamar Jackson wanted more weapons

Herbert has been given weapons year after year after year Herbert’s out of excuses I can’t find not one now as we transition to who’s under more pressure is it Harbaugh is it Herbert to me it’s got to be Herbert oh yeah got to be Herbert and here’s why Harbaugh doesn’t

Stop until he getss the job done Harbaugh is my favorite type of human being I’m either going to die or I’m going to finish the job there’s no in between at Stanford he finished the job 12 wins at Stanford never been done before he goes to Michigan Michigan

Could not beat Ohio State lost to them five consecutive times he beat Ohio State and he just like N I want to finish the job he wins a Natty a Natty he’s with the ners the ners the ners were a lowly franchise at the time takes

Them to the Super Bowl but he’s like you know what I’m coming back to the NFL to finish the job Harbaugh doesn’t stop until he finishes the job and Justin Herbert hasn’t even started the job as it pertains to winning games so I love Harbaugh because he always works until

He gets the job done and all the pressure for my money is on Justin Herbert because Harbaugh is not a loser Herbert at this point in time he is that’s that’s pretty good I’m going the opposite way now they didn’t they didn’t release the money yet did they no

Sir but one thing we do know it’s a lot of money they going to pay this man have to right if you look at his track record all he does win you talked about Stanford I’m not going to Stanford but some way he got talent there and they

Won he goes to Michigan no not only does he win in turns that franchise around right he wins the championship and in the NFL one of my best friends is Frank Gore we always talk about you know the Niners back a fourth and it was a time

Where they weren’t that good at all right yeah what did he do he got him good again right got him talking about championships Super Bowls all these type of things so there got to be the pressure on him they they went to go find him can we find a coach to to coach

Our Superstar quarterback can we find a coach to coach our quarterback that has so much talent generational Talent lot of money can we find him and they found a guy so you talk about pressure it has to be him one one thing he’s done I love about him is he’s an ex quarterback

Right but he always goes to the defense first yeah he builds that defense up and then he goes to the quarterbacks so I just feel like with all that Talent they have over there on defense cuz I think for him to take this job it had to work

Out like okay I want a quarterback and I need some defense probably the best quarterback he had other than luck gooder the defense is crazy talent wise so I just he has the best fit for him but he got to win if he don’t win they

Not going to just let just Herbert go yeah you’re right the money the money has not the money has not come out yet but when it does come out I’m assuming it’s probably going to be around probably 100 million at I ain’t got 100 million circled but I

Do got 230m and that’s what the quarterback making we know he ain’t getting that as a head coach so for me all the pressure is on Herbert Herbert we have to see you grow we seen Baker Mayfield go over here to Tampa Bay Buccaneers with a young offensive

Coordinator look better right we seen the same offensive coordinator just got hired by the Panthers take Gino Smith one year Gino Smith got paid looked better good point Justin Herbert you got to look better this this is all on you you have a coach that everybody ain’t

Blaming it on him no more because what he has done in the National Football League what he has done in college nobody’s blaming him all the pressure is on Justin Herbert when we get in these two minute drives now you got to win the dam game you know what I’m it it ain’t

Going to be on hard ball no more like it was on Brandon Staley it ain’t going to be on the defense no more it’s going to be on You Justin Herbert because year after year after year is something else so all the pressures on Justin Herbert you ain’t making $4 million like Baker

Mayfield you making $230 million right your coach ain’t even G to sniff that so all the pressure is on you for him to deliver in Big Time moments and I just want to see the growth of him I’m not saying you’re going to win 13 games I

Don’t know what you’re going to win but you should look like like a different player under Harbaugh why cuz all the other ones have and you might be the best one yeah it’s got to be Justin Herbert but also because Harbaugh had options he could go anywhere he wants to

Go you’re coming off a national championship game you already have the resume you’re the name that’s out there this is a Shawn pton Russell Wilson situation and I’m not saying that Russell Wilson is Justin Herbert so please relax it’s the situation where they’re going to pick the coach over the

Quarterback if it comes down to it now I don’t think that it’s going to get as testy as it got in Denver between Herbert and Harbaugh but who knows what we do know is Harbaugh coming with that resume i’ I’ve got the evidence that I know not only know what I’m talking

About I’ve done this here I’ve done it here I’ve done it here and I just did it again I am the one coming off of a championship I you mentioned Baker Mayfield we could go down the line there’s there’s a lot of teams that we were very critical of this year that

Went a lot farther than the Chargers the Eagles struggled all year long they were in the postseason still struggling rookie CJ stra rookie head coach they were in the postseason so there there’s a lot of places that we can point and say you are not achieving at the level

That these other players are and and they’re not making the money that you are making so he’s been paid we see the talent that He has but Harbaugh has the resume and he had the options so he chose to come here so he’s automatically in the driver’s seat I do think that it

Is worth considering what Justin Herbert has had to deal with with the changes like he has no control over that that is something I talk about organizations all the time you’re going through coach after coach after coach you’re trying to get it right trying to develop him

That’s hard to do so that has nothing to do with him but now you’ve got a real Coach who’s done it before with talent that is that we all consider to be lower than you you don’t have any more excuses that’s why I love this because finally

Like we don’t have to wonder anymore I’ve been saying for years I don’t think Herbert’s like that I mean people been coming at me left and right James rolled his eyes when I I get it but the reason I have said it is because Herbert did

Not go to the worst situation in his draft class yet he’s won the least Tua went to a worse situation than Herbert Joe burrow went to a significantly worse situation than Herbert but Tua his team’s gone to the playoffs twice Herbert once Joe Burrow’s gone to a

Super Bowl hero ain’t won a playoff game Jaylen Herz in that draft class was a backup went to turmoil he was behind Carson Wentz I believe it was he wasn’t even a starter he was a wildcat quarterback he takes over as a starter think he goes nine and seven goes to the

Playoffs loses goes to a Super Bowl then this year again goes to the playoffs so what you doing Herbert you didn’t go to the worst situation in the world true true two and unseen some coaches Zack Taylor hadn’t won no games before Joe burrow got there Zack Taylor’s going to

His second years as a head coach Here Comes Joe burrow with a coach who don’t know nothing about nothing and they go to the Super Bowl in their third year Joe Burrow’s second year so when I’m looking at Herbert no more excuses and they search all over to find an excuse

For Herbert if there is an excuse within the stratosphere somebody will find one but finally finally can ain’t no more question so so we said we talking about pressure right yeah and my thing is what you think is harder to find a really really good coach or or a really really

Talented quarterback really talented quarterback quarterback right so if you ask him for the pressure if if if it’s up and down for Herbert right and he don’t win or he don’t they not get rid of him it’s hard to find him it’s hard to find him this dud there teams that go

Get first overall picks like Baker Mayfield and in six years he’s on four teams where where where hardore I mean if it don’t work out right we got get a new coach got keep finding it I got one 425 got one for you what Harbaugh has

Proven though is he’s proven he can win with less that’s why I AG with joy I agree with James I think they would move on from her but obviously we’re we’re forecasting but let’s think about it for a second it sound crazy think about it think about it think about let me think

Who in the world was Colin Kaepernick who he was a runner but what’s Harbaugh do Harbaugh makes sure his team has an elite elite elite defense right so then you don’t need a quarterback to pass for 5,000 yards harbon one Alex Alex Smith Alex Smith was a bust bad bad bad bad

Bad but at the point in which you have Patrick Willis Nar Bowman Justin Smith t b number 55 Brooks Brooks Brooks Brooks from the Smith like at the point in which you had Justin Smith Justin all of them the Hitler Hitler was his name yeah at the

Point in which you had all of that defensively you didn’t need a Bonafide dude a quarterback I do not think highly of JJ McCarthy I am on the record saying it now he’ll likely go on the first round I don’t think that highly that’s projected to but Michigan won a national

Championship so the reason I say they Harbaugh would would win this standoff and not that we’re not projecting that but I would say it if that’s the case Harbaugh can win with less he can win with less it’s about like players and players not even players quarterbacks cuz quarterbacks ain’t players

Quarterbacks and and coaches are two different people no doubt two different people right unless you Bill bich or unless you Andy Reid you gonna get moved you gonna get moved right if if the bills don’t if they continue to do this thing they’re doing right now you think

It’s gonna be Josh Allen or think it’s Sean mcder you know what I’m saying sh was a really good accom what I think Harbaugh is a top 10 coach of the game of football all time Herbert we still trying to figure out where he falls even

Right now is he a top like top five quarterback harball Shady let me give like I love harball only five coaches in the history of football have been to a Super Bowl and won a national championship five of them names like Jimmy Johnson names like Pete Carroll

Names like Barry Switzer and names like Jim Harbaugh so we know Harbaugh is one of them once he’s not not a guy he’s the guy Herbert is well well I I I think he’s a really good coach right even when he was in the NFL I thought he was a

Really good coach right all the stuff that Frank Gore told me about him I love everything about him it’s the type of Coach you want to play for all I’m saying is talk to me he’s not more valuable than the $230 million quarterback that’s it’s plain and simple

So when you talking about pressure it’s got to be more pressure on him because if he don’t deliver they not gonna get rid of Herbert they’re gonna make an excuse find a way because he’s that good of a quarterback that much talent he’s still young and he got that paper you’re

Not going to mess around with that there’s so many times where all these quarter first round bust quarterbacks is because as a team looking for that quarterback to take them to the next stage the next level that’s why they get all these butt that’s why they reaching quarterback don’t be that good in

College ah we need one bad let’s go get him hopefully he’ll be that guy no so my thing is I get it Harbaugh is an excellent coach from college to the pros but when you got a quarterback that’s a franchise guy like Herbert you’re not going to play around with that yeah but

That’s why I think all the pressure on Herbert man you 230 M and fourth in the division behind a no Connell Patrick Mahomes obviously and Russell Wilson and stenum right and we talking about you like you are like that man like K we gonna keep talking about

Like he’s like that other per but if you don’t win with this dude that all he does is win with less with quarterbacks that are running quarterbacks with quarterbacks that people say are bust at the quarterback spot and he’s winning with them you ain’t going to point at

Hard ball why why not because he has proven to win with everybody else I just want to let me get this straight right let me get my posure straight and straight get St y so so y’all two I don’t know if you add all three of y’all

Are y’all telling me that if they don’t win they gonna keep hard ball keep keep hard ball right as a coach and then they going to let Justin Herbert go is that just let me know what we talking about I’m saying he’s going to get all the

Blame not Harbaugh I’m not saying that they’re going to trade him get rid of him he’s getting all the blame if they lose if they go six and 11 or whatever he’s getting all the blame Brandon Staley just got all the blame and his bags is packed Harbaugh’s bags are not

Going to be packed and he’s going to be getting all the blame why is he getting on pressure then if if one guy don’t deliver he’s goingon to get his bags packed and he’s going to roll right I mean Staley not him Joy break chime in hadn’t even gotten to California yet we

Already firing him no we I’m not firing I’m say he’s not going to I think this is a this is a years down the road conversation like Herbert’s already been paid so regardless of what happens here and and and Harbaugh coming in Harbaugh’s going to get paid a lot too

This this Runway is going to be very long for the for the Chargers you think I think to help us out though this is where I play scenario for I think I think like if if the Chargers do not make major strides in two years Harbaugh ain’t going two years you think Justin

Her’s going to go not not next year but at at the end of the It Go weirdo goir I think jber would have Justin Herbert would have to actually look like he’s falling apart it would have to be like a Carson Wentz type of situation

Can can I don’t but here’s why I say this here’s why I say this two years from now Justin Herbert would be going on year six if he ain’t won Nothing by year six and Harbaugh who we know wins with everybody can’t win with Herbert then it’s not Harbaugh’s fault yeah

That’s that’s all I’m saying Harbaugh’s proven he can win with Alex Smith he’s proven he can win with Colin Kaepernick so if he can’t win with Herbert it’s not on hard can I bring can I bring us all together for one point I don’t want to be together they going to win

I like like how they not I a saying they taking the division or what not but they are going going if Harbor don’t win fine it’s going be issues for him pressure on both but they going that’s all he has shown he he going to win but but but the

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