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You want to jump into I mean the biggest thing right now is head coaching vacancies biggest thing for sure is not only the departure of bill bich from the Patriots but his replacement yeah you guys hear about that yet Hing Gerard Mayo ger May inside inside linebackers coach not just linebackers
Not just linebackers inside linebackers inside linebackers coach right yeah and he is now the youngest NFL coach uh in the league um at 37 years old and I just saw something right now about um they asked Sean McVey how does it feel to no longer be the youngest and he’s like I
Thought back you know I was pretty young when I first joined the league near 30 years old I spoke to Stan uh cranky about that and he asked him St what the hell were you thinking 30 years old a lot of poker chips in on me yeah most definitely but
What you guys thoughts on that I mean it’s the Patriot Way to if they were going to replace bill they were going to do it internally and obviously he’s a guy that’s very well respected not just by Robert Craft but everyone else in that building and I’m not a patriot fan
But if I was I think it’s a home run higher I think if you’re going to change the culture it’s this is a good step in that direction um it’ be interesting to see what they do going forward as far as what type of roster he wants to build
And if he wants to go out and get a quarterback I think they’ve got the number three pick on the draft so it’ll be I mean I don’t know how much say he will have in their drafting I know craft kind of has a lot to do with it but
Obviously a guy like Bill bich well respected um those are those are the tall shoes to fill oh big time dude a guy who’s been there for 24 years yeah 24 years with one team dude that’s like a marriage how many uh how many AFC East championships did they win was like 20
21 21 yeah showed up crazy record ridiculous dude ridiculous yeah I feel like when it comes to New England the two names was Mike Vel and Josh McDaniels so I’m surprised really that they went with not someone that we don’t know but like somebody that I don’t know
You don’t they weren’t talking about when you’re talking about head coaching jobs um but you know New England’s always the ones the want to step out the box I guess and be different like they had a defensive coordinator be offensive coordinator yeah so it’s like they want
To be different so but that’s that’s kind of what their I guess Forte is is trying new things and succeeding off of them I mean dude you draft a tall kid from Michigan the six round who knew he was going to win you six Super Bowls you
Know what I mean Seven Super Bowls excuse me so I mean are we is it right for us to question the Patriots so what I’m saying the Patriot Way they know what they’re doing up there um you’re definitely right I think a lot of people are
Looking at vble I mean that kind of looked like the sense yeah it was the safe bet if you were to put money on it I think that he was probably the favorite to get the job but um yeah I want to know where he’s going to end up
Going cuz it was weird that the way the way they parted ways with the Titans cuz there was talk of him possibly trading his contract or the Titans were going to trade his contract I don’t know how that works necessarily basically you have to like agree to be traded um nonetheless it’ll
Be interesting to see where he ends up going which I believe the only time a coach has been traded as far as I know John G John guden yep yeah sorry man sorry about that bu John to Tampa um yeah that was that hurt me I really
Like Mike vabel over in Tennessee that was a to me he shouldn’t have got yeah I don’t think he should have gone that was a harsh harsh fire right there they put all the blame on him I get I feel like like they put all the like I mean they
Only went like had three losing Seasons yeah but the number one seed last year yeah they they’re two they were so good yeah this team is one good quarterback away from being successful you also trade your number one wide receiver um cuz you don’t want to pay him yeah it’s
Like exactly that and now Derrick Henry’s gonna walk der Henry’s gonna walk too dude to Dallas no yeah dude it’s it’s it’s weird it sucks cuz that team is like one puzzle piece away from being good you know what I mean and now the puzzle pieces are being dismantled and you
Can’t really it’s a rebuild team now which sucks yeah this team is too far talented to be in a Rebo mode now I can’t believe they beat the Chargers this year man that was tough I think we okay though sorry watching that game was tough but
Yeah I think I don’t even know where Vel would end up going um there’s a lot of vacancies in the NFL right now I believe it’s eight is there eight well now seven after J Mayo just got hired so seven um yeah what this is probably like
One of the craziest offseasons of head coaching in history not just the names of the coaches but just the amount like this was the blackest of Mondays of you know what I mean like the about get ready for the next year this was a darking Oh the guy at the helm is
Leaving yeah and these are guys not just anybody you know you think someone like Brandon Staley there was a point where he was getting a fired if it wasn’t during the season it was at this time and Brandon St wasn’t a part of that list fortunately which is good right right
But if it was to happen the amount of people that are joining Brandon Sy on that list Bill bichi Pete Carroll Mike Vel Art Smith Art Smith which we kind of saw that com I think the way that he got fired was funny I think that was
Hilarious the way he blew up on on Dennis Allen you whether you won or lost that game whatever yeah whether you made the playoffs you were done dude well you know who you know whose decision that was right D is wisty oh no way oh yeah
Bring it he Audi in the play call or in the in the I right that last play he AUD it was like we’re getting Jamal a touchdown as you should yeah he’s been out all year I I don’t have an issue with it it’s because you’re division
Rivals you’re not supposed to like each other bro like like right it’s like bare minimums like it’s football at the end of the day I get it like oh like you’re in Victory formation and then you’re like oh no we’re going to score real quick but y’all divis Rivals like don’t
Like each other like that makes theame better no I think if they lined up and ran a play like like you know don’t line up in Victory formation and just ran a play I think it would have been fine it’s just a very deceptive way of doing
It by lining it up like that but I like there’s no yeah I like that though like you just causing more beef later I like it I think jamus Winston inserted himself into the the NFL culture Hall of Fame he already was in there who joins him there who’s already in there with
Them who’s already in there Wes Welker just cuz why not Julian Edelman Julian Edelman um uh honestly JaMarcus Russell just for the fact that he lied about Wasington I guess yeah dude like th Johnny Manzel in there cuz he he W zero Rich Sherman in there who else El ever talk
About me like that yeah sorry you like Crabtree yeah honestly crab tree deserves to be in there too for snatching the chain whose chain did he or was it his that was to he got his great that’s a great discussion to have right now uh Balden Anquan Balden Anquan Balden
Yep that whole W receiv record from Baltimore 13 uh we have some people in the chat let us know how your thoughts here there’s a lot of things going on in the NFL new head coaching spots available playoff picture we’ll get into that right now but if you have any
Thoughts let us know in the chat we’ll be here to read you guys off uh any time um what is What is the most uh attractive head coaching spot if you’re like one of these head coaches that are looking for a new place you got something say I’ll be biased and I’ll
Say it’s the Chargers and I’ll be non-biased and and agree with you I mean there’s people that say oh they’re cor a bunch of 30-year-old but if you got a franchise quarterback like Justin Herbert you got to take advantage of that dude the Chargers are like same
Thing with Tennessee I like to say they even better they in a much better position better that’s what I’m saying I don’t know how we lost they’re missing piece is a coach yeah that’s all they need is a coach the whole from the defensive end to the offensive end dude
The team is in its that’s where it’s supposed to be we finally have a kicker you know how long it’s been since the Chargers have had a kicker dude yeah dier the kicker remember that I remember I remember games like they play the Raiders and they’ll miss one I’ll be
Like yes yes no look go back to 2010 they had the number one offense number one defense 32nd special team and they got that’s the reason they got out of the playoffs or they didn’t make the playoffs because of that so but yeah I agree that all
They need is a coach that knows what he’s doing yeah I mean Kell Moore is in there and I think it was a it was a weird first year for him I understand why he’s not in the conversation of taking that position why is he not I
Don’t think he wants to be head coach like it’s him and Eric benmy that’s like they’re both always like circulating around head coaching jobs but like right yeah man Eric body’s like oh bemy Ben enemy and Kell Moore at the Chargers that’s like that’s offensive like dude but see that’s the thing but
With such a offensive heavy Squad yeah you know what I mean no the Chargers need to rebuild that team in the trenches you need to draft some D linemen and some offensive linemen you need to get some hard-hitting linebackers a couple of safeties that can fly around other than Derwin James
Because right now on here’s my you keep Herbert you keep Keenan Allen yep guys like Mike Williams Eckler Joey Bosa khil Mack they’re gone really yeah oh 100% we’re not going to resign Mike I think Joey Bosa is gone I would like to resign KH Mack I don’t think it’s going to
Happen but really the only guys that they’re going to end up keeping are Herbert Derwin James Cameron Dicker because the kicker we finally have a good one and then Slater at left tackle and then Tuli Tulie Pala out of USC who had a great rookie year that was the
Only bright spot of this team this year Kay says Big Ups Dicker the kicker for real hey he pulled up dude I did he whatever whatever range it was he pulled up yeah D I think uh ain’t no Brandon Aubrey but yeah so is he’s the he didn’t miss a
Single field goal this year did he nope regular season but he missed three extra points I saw that he was he’s like all day the playoffs coming should we get into that should we talk some NFL some playoff match ups you guys got any more head coaching spots
You want to talk about hey I think Atlanta’s I will yeah let’s talk about Atlanta okay before yeah okay let’s talk about Atlanta yeah I think Atlanta is attractive because like they got so many young pieces and Arthur Smith got fired cuz he didn’t use the young pieces so I
Feel like if there’s the right coach that’s able to use those pieces I think they’re going to be good he’s playing with his food yeah too much yeah dude I mean I get it people don’t like peas and carrot touching their mashed potatoes bro but sometimes when you mix them up
It gets some flavor that you don’t understand until you take a bite and swallow youever had a good pot pie dude exactly that yeah don’t tell me are you just you don’t save the crust for last right you eat it with it yeah I’m saying I thought Arthur
Smith that’s that was a problem true he don’t know how to eat you know what I mean I mean somebody needs to come in there and be like look we got a freak athlete at tight end in Kyle Pitts you got Drake London who’s a first round
Wide receiver drafted him for a reason and then bejon top 10 running back right Desmond rder still question what I like to say yeah oh they’re going to dra quarterback here’s what I told him before the show started I said if you’re at the Atlanta Falcons you’re sitting
Eighth in the draft the Bears are at number one but the Bears nobody really knows what the Bears are going to do because they had a really good end of the season they’re keeping their head coach eberl they decided they got rid of gy right but as far as everyone’s
Concerned so far they’re going to keep eflu but I think if you’re the Falcons you trade the eighth pick to the Bears and then the bears go to eight and because they have the ninth pick go as well so if you’re the Bears you get the
Eight and ninth pick back to back and then the Falcons move up to number one and they can take either Caleb Williams or Drake May and then boom there’s your franchise quarterback cuz Ritter ain’t it I don’t know about Drake Mayo you don’t know about Drake may I don’t know
About him he’s got he’s a good arm Talent it’s just a matter of will it translate to the NFL cuz Caleb Williams is a little too I don’t want to say he’s he’s a diva I will say it he’s a bit of a diva and you know playing at USC all the spotlights
On you and um I just I don’t know I I will be impressed if he translates smoothly into the NFL Caleb Williams because I don’t think his scrambling crazy throw behind the back yeah make that’s not going to translate to the NFL exactly that no
That’s a one time thing and I mean momes he took some time before doing all that stuff and he look at the way he’s been struggling this year yeah no most definitely um there is one guy though that I’m going consider as a rookie entering into next season just cuz he
Was injured all year that I’m super excited to see play this year year but because of how this other quarterback played makes things a little bit shaky and that’s in Indianapolis I’m really excited to see how Anthony Richardson is going to look this next season that whole division though the whole division
You have Trevor Lawrence CJ Stout and uh Richardson Richardson uh and then whoever they’re going to figure it out I think they’re going to figure it out they’re going to figure it out Levis could be the guy he just needs weapons um but they’re going to figure it out
For sure but that’s just that quarterback battle is just very very intriguing for me I mean Richardson could stay he could back up mchu or mchu could take off to be a stter somewhere else which I think he can be I think that’s the realistic case
I think that’s what will happen I think you keep Richardson you drafted him fourth overall for a reason you’re not going to bench him Garner muu I mean Garner mu’s I always he’s backup he’s the greatest backup in the league right now like over Carson Wentz oh yeah 100
Caron is he still playing he’s in the r I’m sorry Carson did you see that super random did you see that video of who was it they were playing somebody was playing against the Rams and somebody goes up to Carson Wentz and daps him up and he’s
Just like you’re the goat man you’re the goat and somebody was like does he think that’s Matt Stafford like that’s funny it was like that’s funny yeah cuz there I mean Carson W shout out for him getting that Super Bowl technically Nick FES got him that Super Bowl but yeah
What a what a guy Carson um one magical year another quarterback that’s leaving the NFL retiring Teddy Bridgewater after this season he’s the backup for Jared G yeah yeah for the Lions so he’s still in right now we still got a chance to get a ring under his belt but
That’s a guy I really respect I mean people talk Louisville they think Lamar Jackson but they forget about Teddy Bridgewater Teddy Teddy Bridgewater walked so Lamar Jackson could run true mad respect for Teddy Bridgewater um never forget that hit he took in the Fiesta Bowl against
Florida he had a really good ten year in Minnesota dude yeah it was going so good until he got hit yeah and ever since then it’s just been T2 gloves baby yeah and then case Kingdom had a pop off in the playoffs too so kind of messed it up
Dude what’s up with Minnesota just like finding all these weird quarterbacks to ball out for them like it’s like the most random Josh dos they just trade for mid-season and all of a sudden he’s winning two games for them like without even knowing the offense Nick Mullen
Wasck M he did okay nothing crazy cousins Ball but yeah they turned him into like a franchise quarterback I’ll never I never thought I’d say it I’m like yeah Kurt Cousins above mid for once he was looking like an MV I saw him play in person this year I went to that
Week three game Chargers Vikings and that was Justin Herbert’s best day of his career I mean he was like 40 of 47 he lost and no we won oh you guys won that was our first win of the season and Keenan Allen had a career day he had
Like 18 catches 200 yards and he threw a passing touchdown but Kurt Cousins did everything he could to keep him in the game no matter how good and how many records that the Chargers offense was breaking that day it was still a one- score game because of Kurt Cousins and
He was making fourth down after four third down fourth down so he’s a pro manager he’s a pro no that’s a like he is well respected amongst the league was he try to remember cuz he has a very interesting career storyline you know what I mean um he took over RG3 right
Well they got drafted in the same year yeah drafted in the same year and then RG3 got hurt and then um he filled in for him and then Washington uh and Jay guden John Gruden’s brother yeah were playing RG3 and um they went with Kurt Cousins and
Then they relegated RG3 I mean I’m I’m happy for both guys that was a big RG3 guy for sure despite him playing in my own division that dude was I love battle wild card game against uh Russ Wilson both rookies at the time dude yeah that
Was thought he was the next up he got injured bro he was her right handed Michael Vic he was her right-handed Michael Vick yeah exactly that but I’m really happy where he’s at right now dude I mean people forget he won the Heisman he’s a Heisman winner dude a
Baller he put Baylor on the map exactly that Baylor was good at one point yeah yeah no most definitely dude I mean but I’m very happy for both of them Waco Texas yeah he has a street named after him in Waco really yeah damn I I did not
Go on that street I’ve only been to wo that or not but D I’ll tell you right there’s not much to do in Waco Texas apparently there is I mean if you get a street there’s Dr Pepper yeah um yeah my question is do you think RJ3 is happy
For C cousins and vice versa I don’t think he holds ill will yeah if he’s like if he’s the God-fearing man that he says he is I don’t think he holds it will he’s just such a nice guy dude like you you see that story mid mid baseball
Season he just goes to the uh a twins mat game with his wife and kids and just sit like in the middle of like section 112 yeah like he doesn’t sit in a suite or a booth normal seat yeah he’s just like yeah I’m going to go with the
Common people that get a normal day yeah I love I like I respect that for him so I think that’s just like a testament of who he is as a person I gained a lot of respect for him when I started watching that um that quarterback Show on Netflix
Oh 100% I gained a lot of respect for him but I lost so much respect for momes during that show yeah if you watch it you know why the dude is just obnoxious sorry I don’t r i don’t r with obnoxious people simple as that um the downfall
Momes I love Yeah man uh before we transition to playoffs and before we transition to uh commercial break one more thing I want to say and I think it’s very important whether if you’re a football fan it’s very important that you take the moment moment and appreciate this man for what
He’s done despite not being in the NFL he had some tenure in the NFL but despite most success not coming from NFL this guy put football into a pedal stool that no other coach can put football when you think college football you think of his
Man and that man is Nick sa he has officially retired from the Crimson Tide no longer a coach at Alabama it’s going to be weird it’ll be weird see him coaching in general I mean it’s just very strange but uh and they have his replacement already replac you
Want to talk to about that kayin dor uh I just saw his right it was like 104 and 12 as a head coach CU he was at Fresno State before he went to Washington but um yeah four days after losing to Michigan of the national championship
He’s now the next coach of uh Alabama Crimson Tide I like that pickup yeah I really do honestly but people always think they always think what’s next what’s next dude sometimes you just need to sit in the moment Marin yeah marinate recognize what this guy has done so I want to take
The time and with you guys and just think about what’s your greatest Nick Sav memory you guys have oh I only have bad as a Texas Fan I have some bad memories against well we beat him this year but that 2009 Natty uh where Colt
McCoy got hurt in the first half it was the first quarter y that was but that was a good I was one of Alabama’s best teams that they’ve ever had um honestly I’m going to go with the the interview where he’s like I’m not at what was it he’s like
I’m not telling so quit asking whatever it was that’s my favorite Nick quit asking he’s like it’s not happening so quit asking guys that’s Nick sa my my favorite Nick saing moment is uh they lost the national championship I forgot who they lost to but uh Bryce young was a quarterback and
They at the podium and before they left he was he uh sat them both back down and he said you know he praised both of the players that was sitting next to him and saying that these these players we wouldn’t be here without these players
And uh I think despite like all the Rah and uh the things that you might hear like he he’s like good with the kids and like he just shows that time and time again yeah I mean he literally retired on what was it Wednesday that you know the news and Thursday morning
He’s in his office back at the football facility and he’s talking to recruits that and players like hey you don’t need to go transfer out you need like just because I’m gone doesn’t mean you got to not no longer be a part of this program and so I respect him for that just
Literally retired then comes in to work the next day there was one guy one toer who who who transferred out Bond Isaiah Bond yeah the wide receiver where did he go Ohio State no he has oh you’re talking about the center yeah that’s the center the center transferred to Ohio State but
They just one of their wide receivers just announced that uh committ he’s gonna yeah he’s going to go well he was already there for a season or two he’s going to transfer yeah he’s transfering yeah man I mean go ahead do you think uh do you think the retirement
Is has something to do with the nio deals I think he just knew his time dude I mean he want tojoy the what else you got to accomplish what is he 74 years old 72 72 he looks good for 72 oh yeah especially how much stress that you go
Through during a football season especially as a head coach this year especially this year he went through a lot look at that so like let’s talk about that after that Texas loss everyone was like oh this is not the Alabama team that we’re used to seeing
And then they put up that 10 to3 performance against South Florida and everyone’s like oh this really isn’t the Alabama team that we thought they were and then they just went on a run won the SEC it’s like how does he turn a team around like that to be fair I think the
Media’s a lot very responsible for how we perceive some of these teams cuz obviously it’s a very talented Alabama team they didn’t win the Natty but that doesn’t mean Nick sain doesn’t know what he’s doing yeah I mean in terms of this year though I mean we were watching the
Auburn game here that was lucky I mean come on bro that just so happen to happen and that definitely altered their Road into the the playoff but I mean it’s just at the point where it’s like you hear critics critics are always going to talk dude you proved it wrong
So many times and then they’re going to keep coming back saying prove us again I proved you wrong seven times already with seven national championships what else I got to do and I did it with two different schools what else I got to do
You know what I mean I had my tenure of the pros earlier in my career which for me was fascinating I saw this tweet it was funny mean and it said only the Browns can mess this up and it was having two of the top coaches and their team and their coaches
That me it was Nick Sabin a Browns jersey headset or Browns outfit headset right next to him Bill bich both are gone now two goats two goats man went out on the same day yeah they had a they had a team back then with that like they had a team bro were
Really good back yeah um yeah so that’s somebody I definitely respect speaking of the Browns can we talk about Joe Flo Joe oh what do you call him Joe Flo Jo Joey Co Joey Joey cool I love this Houston Texans team and CJ strad just because strad carried my fantasy team this year
But um I got to root for Joe Flaco and the Browns D there’s no way and I think if they win they’re going to match up against the Ravens that’s to me that it’s a beautiful the script is scripted beautifully right there dude like saffra strike my ass dude like
No they they were writing during this strike bro this is going really good Tyreek Hills going back to Kansas City um Matthew Stafford going back to Detroit yep and then the rematch of two of the two Blue Bloods of the NFL and Green Bay and Dallas Roger gell knows
What he’s doing man W script man W script shout out shout out Ro shout out everybody all right with that we’re going to take a first commercial break we’ll be back here for more going for two we’re going to break down what’s going on in the NFL playoff picture this weekend
It’s wild card time you ready wild time let’s go ahead and come back here after the Break I got to get to it I got the time but I got to get moving I don’t have time to be playing with you this is no time to be playing is stupid could be the difference from winning and losing could be the difference from hundreds or
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That you deliver good business only way it continues Money Matters and you need the credentials coming straight up going to bring issues my time is prices don’t like to misuse it h only you can’t have do it if we start it we going to see it
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Through here let me set that up for you guys quick though there you go boom there you have it this looks like how you feeling going be a fun weekend right games that standof this weekend I would say more interesting one would be Kansas City and
Miami uh then we have Detroit and Rams will be a good one I think also be a good one is Dallas B there’s also a couple gam just going to be cold like like Kansas City Miami that’s going to be below 0° and then we have the we have Buffalo and Pittburgh that’s
Going to be very C hopefully they going to stay warm that Kansas City game is going to be3 wind I’m over here tripping out about we fix that right now no yeah it’s ridiculous that’s like yeah I could barely handle the weather California I’m a California
Andely this snow like if I ever deal with snow bro I way no dude I mean City c um we got buffalo in Pittsburgh that’s going to be freezing I think one snow be ridiculous and then Baltimore when they get ready to go they’re going to be cold as well Houston is lucky
Yeah so AFC this NFC um pretty chill Detroit Dallas Texas Tampa Bay Philadelphia in the open florid but this AFC whole match uh yeah trying to identify seems like we’re good am good y am I still that’s so weird sorry y I wonder what music is okay okay no worries all right there
You go maybe that helps go check main play was on that probably helps out um yeah let’s go ahead and look at this uh bracket once more dude I mean what’s the biggest game I know I know weather is going to be a huge factor I mean when you’re playing
In a cold it’s very hard to catch the ball your finger going to be super like stuck and whatnot dude especially if you haven’t dealt with that yeah exactly that so like teams like Miami super sunny right I think that Stadium closes up as well when they want to
Um yeah so I don’t know dude Houston same thing MH but I think usually when you think cold weather they’re going to play the Run game you know what I mean right I think there’s a lot of these teams that are going to have to rely on their run
Game I mean Miami has the best Run game out of all these teams I think all these Wild Card teams right that’s what I was thinking as well so I mean uh I think the best game really when it comes to back and forth might be Houston and
Cleveland uh I think that’s going to be a surprise to most people I think that’s going to be very competitive that’s that’s I think to me looking at this wild card bracket that’s the most even match up you know what I me the most balanced match up both teams are pretty
Identical at the same time they’re not but it’s just it’s going to be a fun match up I agree with you on that side but that’s on the AFC side um I definitely have Houston and Cleveland uh on my watch list for this weekend on top of that Detroit and Los
Angeles yeah that’s going to be a good game too yeah exactly was saying dude the script writers story lines are crazy dude man ridiculous go back Matthew Stafford going back to Detroit and then also you have Jared G going against his old team and team that you went to Super
Bowl right so and they also won the Super Bowl without him you know so it’s just like Poetic is it going to be Jared G coming in and like oh no we got the better team now let’s beat you or is it the Rams like n we traded you for a
Reason here’s why you know so it’s like that’s going to be very interesting uh I think there’s a upset alert though uh on the NFC side I think Tampa Bay I I think Philly is going to be on upset alert Ser like cuz they’re on the down they’re on
The down Jaylen Herz has a messed up finger I don’t know if you saw his finger dude they got popped it was really bad and he said um I think yesterday during uh midweek press conferences he said that he hasn’t thrown the football yet yeah yeah that’s not a good look who’s their
Backup try to remember Philly’s backup who is Philly’s backup it was Gardner mry last year but he’s in Indianapolis can’t remember um I don’t know but I wouldn’t be surprised if they go with their backup yeah honestly dude yeah I think AJ Brown is hurt too AJ Brown’s hurt mhm it’s a m
It’s a mess going down over there dude I mean that May might be able to get him I’m so serious T Bay though they just have it’s just a connection between they got resiliency like seriously like I mean I think that just starts with Baker
Mayfield like but T May has been on a down spiry Ral as well they lost their last two oh they okay yeah so my thinging is the team that’s going to win this game and go to next round is a team that’s going to suck the least not the
Team that’s going to play the best play the better it’s not the better team wins is a team that sucks the less wins that’s what I’m thinking um and all Honestly though despite the injuries I feel like Nick serani and the Eagles will come out of this one I don’t see
Tampa Bay as a threat at all it’s just the team that wins that matchup takes on San Francisco the next week now the only team that has a chance on paper injuries are not the only te has a chance to take down San Francisco in the division round is Philadelphia
That’s the only team I could think yeah even that spooky yeah exactly that because uh Philly yeah Philly um they got went beat handedly no literally so against the Giants that’s the S and Cardinals Arizona the last two weeks so that’s the sad part um but yeah dude I mean what you think
About Dallas and Green Bay though oh brother let’s talk about it you think uh you think Green Bay going to upset like you think is a possibility here’s one thing I will say for sure no matter what happens in this game I will say Jordan love is the
Franchise quarterback for Green he had a fantastic year first time at the helm yes taking over for Aaron roggers um and what I really like is that Aaron Rogers communicated with with Jordan love throughout the season MH kind of like he understands he’s a successor I don’t have to pay play play
A role here but like you can tell Roger still has love for Green Bay I mean that’s what his home but it’s also it’s also uh a fact of Brent Favre didn’t do the same thing for him you know what I’m saying like Brent Favre was like who was
You draft him yeah right so he just left him behind and then but Aaron Rogers Aaron Rogers so he did what he did so he you know what I’m saying like Aaron Rogers learned from that he was like nah and that Narrative of like oh history’s
Repeating itself oh they H or they uh drafted the um quarterback and then Aaron Rogers just going to leave him behind like Bren Favre did n so he’s just ch he’s just changing that narrative like you know what I’m saying so no exactly that so we’ll say Jordan
Love is for sure the franchise quarterback for Green Bay Packers going forward he had a great season um I mean relax they W Aaron Rogers numbers those are some big shoes to fill right away it is it is not like how which is a very similar circumstance but it’s not like
How Andrew Look replaced um pay Manning P Manning yeah I mean it man I mean it took it took Andrew look a little bit of time right until we identifi dang this guy is real dealing unfortunately he got hurt he had to retire um but Jordan love
Is in pretty much the same boat as long as you can stay healthy he’s he just has to go up yeah there’s no way he can come back down yeah that’s what I thinking he has a yeah he has all the tools you know what I’m saying just I feel like uh as
He goes on he’s just going to get better and better really um what do you think Dallas um has to avoid from getting upset this week there’s two things man and this has been the problem all year long um first off uh I wouldn’t say the team has a
Sense of complacency like they’re overconfident or anything like that I don’t think that’s it they’re confident but I don’t think they’re too confident you know what I mean like where too much um but there’s two things that they struggled all year and it’s one it’s finishing you know yeah they are on the
Stat page they’re one of the top five top seven teams in red zone offense but those stats pile up when they play against teams that weren’t that good you know what I mean especially that stretch where you play Washington New York um Tampa Bay I think they played
Him one time this year no they didn’t play Tampa Bay excuse me um Seattle should have been a game where they should have just ran off but Seattle surprised them so it was like midweek in the season where they just had 40 point games one after another you know what I
Mean MH that’s where their stats were patting up but when the matchup is even or when they play a team that’s you know playoff team for sure that’s when the finishing lacks you saw that against Detroit that fumble I mean which is of course it’s a dumb rule but that fumble
Shouldn’t have happened you got to finish the play you got to execute the way that you draw it up um so finishing that’s one thing I’m worried about and I’m going put it into one because it’s it’s the same thing in a way but just different areas it’s just
Rushing whether if it’s rushing offensively or the rush defense those are the two things I’m afraid of I’m not saying that Green Bay can do anything with Aaron Jones which they could it for sure could most definitely could Aaron Jones had couple four four touchdown games he is not a guy to
Underestimate but I’m more worried about the T the running backs that we’ll face if we win this game someone like David Montgomery someone like jir Gibbs someone like karon Williams Christian mcaffrey you know what I mean Swift the audre Swift so those are the two things I
Worried about Dallas could win this game for sure but it’s moving forward that’s what I’m I’m worried about so what can we learn from this game if we win what can we carry out positively going to this next match I need to win with like a statement confident boo like a momentum
Booster dude not a close match up I need a I need a blowout that’s my thinking dude you know what I mean that’s what I need bro I can’t be like we made it barely but we made it that was a close one all right N D I
Need a we knew we were going to make it we’re going to make the next one too you know what I’m say what a good story line would be though Detroit versus Dallas in the second round just because what happened a couple weeks ago with the referees and
They’re like oh that would be a good story it’ll it’ll yeah no most definitely and it’ll be in Dallas again if that happens so yeah man I mean it’s very tough to say they they got a chance M they got a chance no I’m looking at the the seaing
If the winner of T Bay in Philadelphia would play I believe it’s the troit no San Francisco is going to play the lowest seed so uh that means if Green Bay will win against Dallas they’ll go but if Dallas wins and uh Detroit loses the Rams will play my thinking
Is if Tampa Bay wins right and Detroit wins right and Dallas wins Dallas plays Tampa Bay uhhuh and uh Detroit plays San Francisco yeah to avoid yeah to avoid Detroit in the second round no I’m sorry I’m wrong on that it’s a whole lot of mixup bro actually
You know what I think Detroit would play Dallas like you said and then Tampa Bay will play San Francisco it’s tough dude it’s a tough weekend it’s a fun weekend for sure um but for you dude I mean what’s what’s that match up in the NFC that you’re looking forward to this
Weekend this weekend um say Detroit and the Rams Sunday Night Football but it deserves to be on that spot like yeah that game deserves the whole I think it’s going to be a CH bro I think Detroit Detroit is going to show up like they’ve always been bro that’s
Such a loyal fan base dude people don’t understand look you always you could always know some a Fan’s loyalties uh because you could tell what fan base they on cuz like if you if you’re connect to a fan base that’s always losing and and they finally win
You know that pain of and you know that Jubilation so I mean like as a Raider fan I’m I’m waiting I’m waiting on our turn you know what I’m saying I’m waiting for that Raiders being one of these brackets and I really hope it’s going to be next year but yeah Detroit
And the Rams the story is there um it’s like a WWE story right now like really so um you know I think uh Detroit is going to you know just I think they’re going to cheer cheer Matthew Stafford when the game before the game starts and then as soon
As the game starts it’s over dude no yeah no sorry bud yeah yeah love you but yeah yeah we love you but we got a chip to win ourselves you already got a chip bro with the wrong team right no I agree with you dude and U there is that that
Rumor of a ban which I think is true to be honest I’m just going to go with it because it makes sense um but Lions fans can’t wear Stafford jerseys in the stands during this game oh they banned it they banned it m okay I’m waiting to confirm I’m
Waiting to confirm it you know I’m trying to find out if that’s true or not but I want to be surprised if it is you know what I mean yeah they’re like they’re like yeah like bro no we here to win like we ain’t here for the there got
Be more golf jerseys than Stafford jerse for sure dude because this guy is turning up dude um and yeah bro I’m just really excited for this playoff picture overall I mean there’s some teams where just like let’s get them out of the way ready let them lose ready let’s get the
Blowouts over with I’m looking at Buffalo and Pittsburg dude Pittsburgh not doing anything yeah Pittsburgh snuck in there for sure Tampa Bay I don’t think they’re going to do anything dude they won because they’re they’re in there because of a crappy division so that’s my only thing I dud I
Mean I hope they prove me wrong me hope they knock out San Francisco in the next round and we play him in the championship you know what I mean but that’s crazy like I need the easy that’s funny but um nah dude it’s just it’s a fun weekend that’s all you
Can say to it and it’s very hard to make predictions but yeah there’s a lot of wiffs in this scenario and it’s all going to come down to moments dude and that’s that’s the beauty and misery of this sport bro there’s always two sides to it someone’s going to be sad
Someone’s going to be happy but the way that it gets there is just how did happen you know I mean and we’re going to experience six six ways of that this weekend starting with the Wild Card round um yeah man I mean I’m nervous for Dallas I’m nervous just cuz it’s
Playoffs I mean I haven’t been done anything since the 90s and um and Green Bay and Dallas in the playoffs hasn’t gone well the past couple years in the past decade I like to say dude I I talked about in the show a couple weeks
Ago this is the only time I would like to play Green Bay in the first round only time you don’t got to see Aaron Rogers I don’t got to see Aaron Rogers against us no more you know what I mean so that’s something I’m looking forward
To um not really much left to talk about dude it’s just got to wait and see it unfold in Next Friday we’re going to have a lot of talk about then because we’re going to have so much reactions on what’s going on with this Wild Card
Round um I like to think more head coach uh vacancies will be filled up by then um and speaking of which on that um not NFL news but college football news they have confirmed that Washington’s killing the bower agrees to a deal to become the next head coach at Alabama and continue
The Legacy there um will he do anything we have to wait to see that that but the fact that they already got a replacement for saving is pretty crazy yeah I think I think it’s always crazy in college like how quickly head coaches move from one team to another yeah players as well
Yeah soon as that Portal’s open they’re like I’m putting my name in yeah yeah I mean isn’t there new rules where like like it’s like a year-to-year basis now like you could transfer as soon as like I have no idea but it’s weird yeah coaches are like oh I’m not
Going to coach this game because they got offer from the school yeah and it’s like it’s a ball game bro you still got to play a ball game what are you doing you leave your team hanging and they do and like it’s okay that’s that’s crazy
To me um so that’s going on in the college football World um put you guys put us back here yeah it’s just a lot of fun things going on this weekend man I’m excited I’m excited to just get the ball rolling ready for the balls to be snapped I’m
Ready for the balls to be thrown catches to be made bro it’s just it’s going to be exciting next Friday show I’m excited because now it’s just waiting to see what happens can’t really preview what happens and review what happened this past week cuz like we already moved on
From that dude like I get it Colts Texans that happened Miami Buffalo that happened fun games happen but I’m ready to move on to the next thing which is playoffs you know once the last season happens it’s like all right final division’s clinched um Jacksonville choked oh well really choked really
Choked you know and because of that Houston won the division somehow Houston won the division somehow but is it a surprise really not really you know what I mean so I’m ready to get the ball rolling and I mean with that dude you got any final thoughts on this weekend yeah
Comes to the playoff I mean this is why all these teams you know what I’m saying hurt their bodies and put their bodies through all this torture for this moment right here to get to that Super Bowl and like things going to get tense and
There’s going to be a lot of big plays and unexpected moments to happen in these playoffs and like that’s the sighting part about it you know what I’m saying like it’s it’s going to be crazy cuz I mean uh the seven seed could win like it might be unexpected but like I mean
Before it went to the seven seed the six seed couple six seeds had won uh the Super Bowl before so um I mean that’s why it’s z z right now for every team you know what I’m saying one one game you could get I mean like you could get
Lucky and you know move on to the next game you know what I’m saying like it’s it’s not like the NBA where it’s like oh seven game series no it’s one bro like right it’s like you got to stick to glued to your chair and find out exactly
What happens dude you can’t wait oh we messed up this one we’ll try again game two n bro it’s a one that’s what makes exactly that um looking at this playoff picture I like to say this is probably one of the best playoff pictures that I’ve ever
Seen in a long time bro yeah cuz I think the teams are so close yeah it’s so even matched up like I think it’s safe to say that we’re going to get a really good Super Bowl this year no matter who makes it yeah you know what I mean yeah cuz
There’s previews was like man freaking the Rams made it with Jerry G against Jerry G versus Tom Brady let just like sound like a snooze Fest it was it was it was 13 to 10 are you kidding me was it was but nah dude this is going to be a fun
Year a year where Kansas City is a three SE is not playing like a three seed Miami is a six seed snuck in there they’re not playing as six seed you know what I mean there’s a lot of these these guys are all in there and there certain
Seeds but they don’t belong there they’re there cuz of a record but playwise they’re much better than a two seed or one seed a three seed and it could hurt him too though like the record could hurt Miami and you know the record could hurt Philly or you
Know what I’m saying cuz like the thing like the things that you do in the regular season uh could come back and bite you y CUA uh the seating you’re in or and uh the position that you’re in you know y well that’ll do it for us
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Uh and Zach how you been man it’s been a week been a week I can’t believe it’s already episode 11 yeah it’s flying man a lot of stuff to talk about on footy Fridays too that’s another that’s another conversation yeah that’s a it’s been a busy January so
Far yeah yeah what’s what do you want to go what do you want to do first I know there’s a lot of uh Premier League specific transfers but is there anything outside of the Premier League that you’ve been uh looking at well I was telling you about Barco yeah that guy
That’s right from Jun just signed to Brighton there’s the transfer market released an article and they’re comparing them to Marcel this guy’s only 19 years old oh man only I he plays the same position right all right um but1 million release for 19y old and they’re already
Comparing to Marcel this got to be I hate comparisons like that though it’s just like it just kind of rubs me the wrong way every time I just like don’t like to think about other players When comparing them to a young player it’s just I don’t
Know oh man come on that guy’s a stud he’s a stud a good for I know what Scouts are just like something else man do they have some sort of like contct in like I don’t know how to do I feel like there’s a team like that in every League
Though like you have in the Bundesliga Dortmund just find crazy players to develop exactly I well maybe not recently they’re still they they’ve done a good job Youth Academy but yeah exactly their Youth Academy is crazy yeah but um yeah a lot of transfer stuff um I don’t know if there’s a specific
A team or League that you’ve been looking at in terms of who they want to pick up but I know that there’s a lot of Premier League teams that are trying to make a splash in this transfer window yeah I mean Spurs have really been the
Only one to do anything yeah um I think that surprised everybody too because they’re not usually a team that’s like early in the transfer window I would say they’re not usually a team that’s very aggressive they got a head start they jumped out they got a head start so um
Yeah I mean right off the bat it started with te o verer signed him for his six month loan deal and um option to buy at the end of the season for 17 million yeah so I think I think they’re going to trigger that regardless of how the season ends well
Because I mean when you think about their attacking presence right now you know with sun gone at the Asian cup with uh papar gone basuma I think he’s also gone as well yeah well he’s suspended oh yeah well yeah he’s suspended too but I mean when he when he does come back
He’ll probably be uh a away for his national team but but yeah I think I what I told you off off camera before we started that I was a little surprised at the aggressiveness for an attacker mhm with their I mean they they have a pretty decent attacking depth I would
Say at least under under postao theyve scored in every game that they’ve played exactly and I think that a lot of their attacking issues have come with the playmaking and when Madison’s been out they haven’t had the same kind of aggressiveness yeah um even though
They’ve been able to score but I I was just a little bit surprised that they were aggressive on an attacker even even though you know I’m very happy about the signing and I like the signing and I think it’s a good thing for the team and
It was a bargain I mean to only get him on loan with the option to buy and if they do want to buy him it’s only 17 million I mean that’s pretty cheap considering this guy and it’s good that he has some Premier League experience
You know he played at Chelsea for it was a little over a season right yeah or was it just one season yeah I think it was I think it was a season and a half or something like that yeah well it was the year they won the Champions League
That’s right yeah um and you know what’s crazy is that that front three all on Premier League Rivals now no longer on Chelsea you got Teo verer for Spurs Kai HTS is at Arsenal that’s right Mason Mount and Mason mounts at uh man united that’s that’s crazy so that entire front
Three is gone yeah um but yeah it started off a a good transfer window for for Tottenham because Center back was the priority and they got their guy we talked about it last week uh there were a few guys that he was on our watch list
Yeah we talked about TBO who I think is probably out of the question now that we’ sign a pretty you know pretty decent Center back I would say but yeah Radu drason the Romanian International from Genoa uh he you know signed the trans he’s he’s official you know he’s in
Potential in contention to play this week till 2030 2030 exactly and this guy’s only 21 years old yeah he’s two years younger than too so that’s something to consider exactly so he’s a young guy uh he helped Genoa promote last season uh because they were in the
The second division in the Syria in Italy so yeah he’s a stud big signing there he’s a stud he’s going to be a big president to in the backline and I was thinking about it too he is like versatile he doesn’t just play center back you know if if vanen and Romero are
Come back in their studs and they don’t get injured and someone else goes out Pedro poro you know God forbid he goes out odogy whatever the case he can play he can play left back he can play right back he can be versatile that’s what I
Like he scored goals he’s got I believe he has like six goals oh yeah since going back to last season so he’s crazy in the in the Box yeah and I’m just glad cuz Bayern Munich were very close to hijacking deal I heard about that um I
Think the discrepancy was the initial it was like25 million plus a $5 million in add-ons plus Jed Spence uh on loan and then Bayern Munich came in last minute was like we’ll just give you $30 million straight up um but I think it was he was already verbally agreed to go to Spurs
And he wanted to stay loyal to that so I respect that he’s already a fan favorite for that oh yeah um but yeah so Spence goes over to the Gia and then somebody did ended up well Bayern Munich did end up signing a center back English International they uh they got Eric Dyer
Which I’m sad that he’s gone he’s kind of a club I I don’t want to say Club Legend but he’s important for that uh I want to say he was the most tenear player after Harry Kane for for a long time been there for 11 he’s been there
For a long time so sad to see him go but like I mean he was out of favor we had Emerson Royale playing Center back instead of Eric D oh yeah over Eric Dyer so but I’m I’m happy for him that he’s reunited with Harry Kane 100% him and
Harry Kane can kind of uh uh yeah some friends over there reunited oh yeah 100% feels so good but I I would you know I’m happy that dragus is has been integrated into the team and so do we think he’s going to go right the lineup we can get into our predictions
For this lineup because we’ll talk about it I guess we can do the Premier League now since we’re already on the on the transfers transfer targets but before we do that I do want to talk about Jaden Sanchez okay yeah yeah because I mean I agree 20 March 2020 this man’s market
Value was 130 million I mean this is right before Co hit so the world looked a lot different back then but he was only 19 years old and he looked like the next big thing and now he’s uh only worth 25 million which is really that’s quite a discrepancy but he’s going back
To to Dortmund where it all started so I think it’s perfect for him to kind of not only help Dortmund who I mean they’re in the Champions League they’re playing who are they playing I forgot PSV I believe they’re playing PSV I think you’re right yeah I think that
Sounds about right uh but they’re fifth in the Bundesliga right now right so not only is he going to help them out but it’s it’s the perfect homecoming for him in his career cuz he’s still so young and he just needs to be in an atmosphere
That where he can Thrive and he wasn’t doing that in man united no yeah we we talked about this you know last week a few weeks ago like we’ve been continuously talking about him leaving Manchester United and how good that would be for him and I think that’s like
One of the best things for him at this point just because like nothing was happening at Manchester United like he he was not happy there obviously there was a conflict with the manager ten hog yeah he he was getting less minutes than Anthony yeah exactly what has he done
This year I mean with the price tag that they paid for him and the quality of player that obviously he still is I don’t think he’s lost anything I just think he was in a bad situation and I think going back to Dortmund going back
To Germany where it all started I mean I just don’t think it could go I mean I I hope it doesn’t go wrong it makes too much sense it just makes too much sense like he’s too he would be too comfortable back in his in his home in
His first Club I guess you could say where he where he flourished so I’m happy for him there um and I think I mean I don’t think it’s a loss for United I don’t think he was too big of a presence there unfortunately but yeah they’re they’re lost is a good word to
Describe man united right now they don’t really seem to have a direction that they want to go in and I was talking about it with Jerry yesterday because this new Financial takeover of ownership and who has a say in the players that are coming in and out that’s all they
Want to talk about he’s like why is that the narrative why can’t the narrative be we’re trying to build something uh after a couple of down years here in Manchester but why can we move why can’t we move on from the headline of like this guy comes in and he’s making the
Decisions it’s like well what decisions is he going to make yeah so I can feel the frustration for him and uh other man united fans shout out Betto and Mah couple of on footy Friday big match up this weekend we’ll see what uh see what happens in that game but we’ll get into
Some of that in a in in a moment but yeah I think Jaden Sancho I’m happy for him I think he’s gonna you know be a big presence for Dortmund um and I think I don’t know I I don’t think there’s a a situation where he doesn’t at least improve a little bit
You know so we’ll see what happens it’s a good situation for him like I said I think both both sides of the party or both part should I say um are going to benefit the team and the the player oh yeah um I’ll definitely be rooting for
Them going forward cuz he just looks like you could see the way he was talking with his former teammates like right when he got into the locker room oh yeah Marco Roy comes right up to him and he’s just like come here like that’s that’s a romance right there and that’s
Just beautiful to see I think it might beg the question too um that when the initial transfer happened when he first went to to United like what was the C like for him you know what where did it all start where did it all begin I feel
Like that’s a big question that people need to people should want it should want answered well and for him I mean he’s in he’s representing England he plays for for under Southgate and plays with all the guys that he’s been playing against you know it’s just he hasn’t
Really been able to thrive in the league that his teammates or England are you know yeah so I think for him personally it’s he’s probably has to feel gutted that I mean he’s still so young but to this point his career in England is
Not worked out the way it has in in a in a Dom in Germany you know so but he’s still only 23 years old is crazy so crazy man we’re talking about talking about him like he’s a seasoned vet you know like he’s been around the league
For so long like 23 years old only crazy so he’s he’s got a long time to play he’s got his whole future ahead of him I can say but yeah excited for him but speaking of United and Tottenham we’ve talked a lot about them today but big matchup this
Weekend these two clubs go head-to-head and we talked about a little bit who we think is gonna start for Tottenham uh who we think is going to get the minutes at Center back who we think is going to get the minutes up top and I’m curious to know exactly what
Your prediction is because I know we’ve we’ve speculated a little bit but like if you were to say this is what’s best for the team this is what the team is going to do to win what was your what would your pick be if I had to pick the
Lineup I would obviously you got poor and adog right at fullback but if with Romero not he’s probably not going to play uh on Sunday so I think you throw drason in there I mean at first I was thinking maybe it’s not enough time but he’s been playing for Jania it’s not
Like he’s unfit you know um I think he’ll have a full practice full day of practice and training today and then maybe a half day tomorrow just so he doesn’t overwork himself I don’t know I I genuinely don’t know how they CU in the NFL you know the day before your
Game you’re not going you’re not you really don’t even practice you’re just doing walkthroughs yeah um so today for him if the game is on Sunday was be will be his day of practice and I think he’s goingon to be working extra to kind of get into football shape oh yeah and um
But yeah so I think him and vanen get to start it’s good it’ll be good to see him come back 100% but I’m a little concerned about well I’m not concerned but you don’t want to overwork him exactly and I think dragusin I think he’s gonna play at in some capacity
Whether that whether he gets subbed on for somebody could be vanen you know for since Van’s been injured I think he might come off at some point van Davies will probably get some minutes if he’s DAV gonna get some minutes so I’m concerned or I’m not concerned but I’m
Curious to see exactly what the the tactics are yeah from En and what he wants to do with these guys because I know drag I hope he gets minutes I want to see him play an an We Trust man an an We Trust exactly but up front I don’t
Know if Teo verer gets the start right I think he will get some minutes off the bench in an ideal world with no son obviously I would like to see Johnson on the left kulvi on the right on the right Lelo in the middle the middle okay and
Then rardon up front right but now that I’m thinking that could do kulvi in the middle okay Brandon Johnson on the right richardon on the left and team over up front so drop uh drop drop drop uh and then that’s what I was thinking too and then
Have him come off the bench which I wouldn’t be upset with that either well because I know I I don’t know if Lelo is like like unfit or if I feel like he’s to stay in kind of some kind of injury he got a knock in that Burnley
Game that’s right he got a knock in that was his knee um but it’s not like a serious injury or anything but I think with that lineup in defense it allows you to kind of sit in a 442 you can have a charlon and verer
Just sit up front yeah um but that’s not really the Tottenham that we’ve seen recently under big an I was gonna say it’s not a counterattacking team like he wants to control the ball he wants to dominate possession it’s not all about just sprinting past the defense like we’ve seen under
Mourinho um and K you know where it’s just spring your forwards up after we win the ball back well I was gonna say speaking of that I I don’t know if he’s gonna push to have richardis and verer on the pitch at the same time because they’re they’re very similar like not
Very similar but I feel like they play a similar style up front when they’re when they’re attacking so it might be I don’t know I don’t know what he’s going to do I’m I’m I’m excited I’m excited game is at 8:30 8:30 on Sunday I’ll be up I’ll
Be up for it um yeah that’ll be at Old Trafford yeah Old Trafford so I don’t know what man united has not been very good at home this year no they they have not been crazy at home yeah they find it we’ll see what they can do um I
Think I want to say they aren’t in good form right now yeah they’ve lost three of their last five but it’s always up or down with them for me I I I can see it going either way for them whether they play a great game one day and they just
Kind of struggle Meandering they’re on the pitch one day but I you can say that for a lot of teams so yeah at home I’m sorry where does it go at home Manchester United have six wins and four losses zero draws interesting well I mean they’re going
Against a Tottenham team that has lost a very significant amount of their top players but they’re coming back they’re coming back and yeah Madison’s supposed to come back in a couple weeks yeah supposed to come back and you know what with all all these transfers and and all
This like talk about new players coming in I mean they got the depth now in my opinion like they have what they need I don’t think they’re done making signing no I yeah I agree I think they’re I mean what they might need now is just some
Younger guys yeah because I know some of their younger Talent like come off the bench late in games like uh Brian Brian kill the Spaniard or bise who’s I think he’s injured now he got injured one of those games that he came in but I think
Some of those guys like it’s good for them to be on the bench or come in in certain games so I think some younger guys um that they can bring in you know like Dragon but who might not get minutes yeah but I I agree I think they’re they’re not done making signings
So I’m excited for that as well and I’m excited for the other big matchup this weekend for the Premier League uh Man City and Newcastle Newcastle really they’ve been slipping a little bit but they still have the potential to to upset a team like Man City who do
They have de bruyne back yet want to say I want to say they do uh but I could could be wrong so we can probably double check on that well they have there they have a predicted lineup and I don’t see him in it they do have Roger back were
Missing him okay well that’s either way City are going to be City let’s be real they’re always going to I’m just I just hope at some point Newcastle can find some form like somewhere you know they they just took a three Z win over Sunderland in the FA Cup unfortunately
For Sunderland um but like I mean as that is a result that you want you know you want to beat teams in the fa cup you want to get results like I want to see some form in the Premier League I want to see them compete against some teams
Like if they if they drew Newcastle or if they sorry if they drew Man City 1-1 22 whatever the case like if they put up a competitive game like that’s just something you can build off of yeah and I think that’s like that’s what you
Start with if you’re in bad form well we talked about it last week that they’re down so many first team players I mean tanali we all know what happened with him I didn’t realize Nick Pope had a dislocated shoulder so he’s going to be out until it says early April so they’re
Going to be out with him for a while yeah back but they’re still missing two starters in Callum Wilson and Matt Target a forward and a striker and a left back Harvey Barnes too colum Wilson’s out yeah I mean talked about that um yeah the I think once they get
Back to their full strength um they can find that form a little bit but like you said a draw against man city um could Kickstart that I just I think it’s even like you don’t even have to gain points like if it’s a competitive matchup and
You lose by a goal you know if you’re a competitive in the game I just feel like that’s a game changer for your Club well they’re fully in the mix for if they’re trying to compete for Europe um they’re going to have to figure it out right now
They’re 10 points out of fifth place but you know as we’ve seen with with some of these clubs it’s it can change in an instant yeah you know like you can fly up the table if you just start getting consistent results and you saw that with Asen Villa like look where they’re at
Right now yeah they’re three points behind Liverpool for the top number one spot in the Premier League so things can change very quickly if you just start gaining some points getting some results from your games from your big games too yeah especially games like Manchester City where you need to you
Know pull all the strings together man city just if just when you think like you know oh maybe this isn’t their year maybe they’re not the same team it’s like yeah come on let’s be realistic just because they lose some players and it’s like well they’re a different team
Yeah yeah they’re a different team without their best players I mean a lot of teams are going to you know struggle a little bit when their top guys are out but with that being said I agree Manchester city has always been for the last few years at least um a juggernaut
But I want to see Newcastle get some points here I think they can I think they just need to I don’t know do some kind of change within their tactics or or I don’t know what it is and I know this isn’t Premier League related this
Is more FA Cup but you saw who Tottenham Drew against right yeah that’ll be what’s the date today the 12th so that’s in two weeks from today right it’ll be on the 26th that’s against Man City yeah uh but it’s at home Pep Guardiola and
Man City have yet to score a goal in the Tottenham Hotspur stadium in five attempts they are 0 and five and I’ve been shut out all five times Well I’m going to put that on W keep that streak going I I hope I mean yeah and I think
By then you’ll have Romero and Van and well Madison Romero and mad back okay well yeah Madison you’ll have a we’ll have full strength back by then that’s true just without our you know top Striker son I I mean at that point will he be back no I don’t think so might be
Back I think he’s usually a man he usually plays really well against city right so that’ll suck but well that’s quite the draw for them but I me we talk about Man City and and their quality I think when you gain points against those teams like you’re in a good spot I mean
I know man city is always going to want to win any game that they’re in and any tournament that they’re in but is the FA Cup that important to pep well because is it still what is it the round of it’s round four yeah so and they still got Champions League they’re
Fighting for the Premier League I mean I know like I said like they’re always going to try to win the treble that’s their goal every year but I think they’ll try I mean they’ll they’ll play their guys like they’re not they’re not do you think do you think pep is going
To be like oh like like assuming they get they don’t get the result that they need are they going to be like oh well you know what this is a busy season I mean you never want to you never want to say that but you can also say like you
Know what there’s high priority games there’s high priority parts of your season that you need to focus on the most and while the FA Cup is important and you always want to win those games you can never be too disappointed if there’s other things on
Your mind you know and I was going to say like even though it has nothing to do with your position in the Premier League an fa a loss in the FA Cup can just like derail you in your season especially if it’s against like you know
A lower level team that you might not have wanted to lose to like look at well I mean this is the careabout cup but Chelsea just lost to middles br I know it’s a twole game they still got a play leg two but I’m I’m thinking about how
Arsenal just got knocked out by Liverpool which that was a very high caliber matchup this early in the tournament oh yeah but go leading up to the game Arsenal had been slipping you know they had a very poor month of December in the Premier League and then
They get that draw against Liverpool and it’s like well this is basically a Premier League game um and they like Arsenal really deserved to win that game I mean they produced more chances they just couldn’t put it in the back of the net they looked like the more deserving
Team in that game against Liverpool but they lost 2-0 yeah um so it’s tough I mean going forward as if you’re an Arsenal fan you got to you’re probably looking to sign a striker oh yeah I that was the thing but my point being that it the it’s there a different show
The Premier League and the FA Cup it’s two sides of the same coin because it’s all under the same season and one performance in the FA Cup certainly can affect your Premier League performance and I think vice versa 100% yeah and you know you look at on the
Flip side too with the championship squads and the lower division squads like one game one win one draw like anything like that I don’t know if you can draw but like it’s different it changes your culture I think um re still in a big way exactly rexim are still in
So I was hoping that’s who Tau them got drawn against but you know maybe maybe they’ll both win and then we’ll catch them in the the the 16 unfortunately Sunderland uh fell out a little bit but yeah it was 3-0 that was the first that
Was the first time in like 10 or so games that Newcastle had beaten Sunderland like it’s it’s been a few years like I think nearly a decade since Newcastle had beaten Sunderland wow well yeah that’s unfortunate for Sunderland but I mean Newcastle we’ve talked about them already but they need some results
And I think those are the kinds of results that you look for in a in a struggling Squad so it’s unfortunate for Sunderland definitely but I think they can still I think they’re still in the promotion hunt right in uh they’re in like sixth place in the championship so
They’re still they’re 100% still on the hunt 100% yeah we’ll um I think now’s a good time to take a quick break and then we’ll talk a little MLS Mexican League Uhura starts tonight right yeah it does tonight and then um we’ll start getting into some segments I feel like we’ve
Been lacking on our segments recently we kind of rushed through them I agree but um this week we’ll we’ll spend a lot of time on those once we come back the break after the break but yeah don’t go anywhere you’re listening to Footy Fridays on 22 West radio kkjz 88.1 FM
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Because I think they go hand inand uh a lot of especially recently with how many players from MLS have been moving to Europe and vice versa um but we’ve talked about Thiago alada quite a bit on this show and I’m reading that he’s linked to Atletico Madrid and
I think that would be a very exciting move I remember when we talked about him back when the MLS season was just about to finish up and we talked about him being super young and how he had the potential to you know move to a bigger Club move to Europe where he could
Really start to develop as a player I think he could I mean I think that would be the best thing for I mean maybe not the best thing for him but I think he could def definely flourish in Europe if he decides to go to Europe or
If he decides to go to another league but it seems like he would go to Europe yeah but I think La Liga makes a lot of sense for him I think that’s the type of play style it is and honestly I think I’ll move to the Premier League for a
Player so young directly out of the MLS those are bright lights cuz he’s only what I want to say he’s like 22 maybe’s 21 or 22 he’s got a market value of 27 million so that’s a decent amount um not to mention the that’s about what they paid
For Dragon yeah totenham did but um yeah he is 22 years old so he’s a he’s a kid man he’s a kid from Argentina that’s you know I I want to say he might break out in the national team if he were to make a transfer to to a European Club
I want to say definitely I feel like that could that’s not out of the question for him yeah just put him on the field with Messi and he’ll look better exactly I mean look what Messi did to uh who’s that guy at uh Miami oh oh I know
His name I know you’re talk he just like some nobody and then Messi comes in and he just like oh my God how this guy’s really good yeah just makes him look better um send him to in Miami man but yeah speak another uh MLS player linked
To Europe uh Denny banga to he’s probably going to France it looks like either GNA be lens I think that suits him well or St Ren um I mean yeah that just makes sense I don’t know why I agree I mean LFC would hate to lose him I know for sure
But well he’s not he’s no longer on contract right is he a free agent yeah I think he is I mean I I think he I’m pretty sure he’s a free agent but we need Jerry we need we need Jerry to fact check this LFC man I I I know know for a
Fact I mean obviously he was the top goal scorer I think he won the MLS version of the Golden Boot right you won that so I don’t know how old he he is necessarily but I mean I feel like the French league would suit him pretty well
For the type of player he is yeah not a lot of eyes on that League yeah um so sleeping on it yeah but I think the MLS uh transfers have always been I don’t know I feel like they’re not looked at too much by you know a lot of people just because for
Whatever reason I don’t know let me ask this because I heard a rumor about Felipe coutinho going to inter Miami and yeah I don’t know if you heard it’s I don’t know how credible that is but you keep seeing all these players that have played in Europe that played with
Messi at Barcelona that he’s just trying to recruit to Miami do you think that’s a good or a bad thing because like personally it seems like if you’re into Miami you can’t just like go out and spend all this money on like Messi’s best friends and like like at least for
The culture of that team like that’s not going to be a sustainable future it’s like yeah good for The Branding now but if you’re trying to build a squad that can like be good for years to come it doesn’t make any attainable sense to just like sign all these players that
Messi used to play with well that was my my first question I was going to ask is like good good or bad for who because it’s definitely good or good or bad for a lot of different people um I think it’s definitely good for in Miami I
Think it’s definitely good I mean right now it is you know for their you know making money for their profits for their uh brand deal like for all of that stuff that they they want right now I think it’s good for them I also think it’s
Good for for Messi and all those guys who still want to play still want to be together who want to you know play play football still yeah but I also agree with you in that I don’t think that’s how you build like a culture at a squad
You know it’s not attainable it’s not attainable and you know maybe there’s a flip side of that where you have a bunch of these you know star studded players who like Messi who’s obviously the goat but obviously I don’t think I don’t think that’s necessarily the way to
Influence your young players I mean obviously having the greatest of all time on your team is is amazing and he’s going to help the young players he’s going to do a lot for them but that to me means they’re not getting minutes they’re not going to play
They’re not going to maybe have the development that they might have wanted at the team um and why that might not be what you want as a like a club manager to see your young guys like struggle at first that might be what they need to become a better player right in my
Opinion and they’ve their first game is going to be against LA Galaxy they yeah because I think LA Galaxy’s home opener is against in Miami but I think Miami have another game before that against uh so it’s not the first game of the season not the first game of the season but
It’s LA Galaxy’s home openers against inter Miami gotcha so that’ll be fun but be interesting yeah I think with all the the buzz around inter Miami with Lis Suarez obviously Messi Jordi Alba Sergio buett and more potentially with Felipe coutinho potentially uh making a move to
ENT Miami but I I just don’t know if that’s like you said sustainable for a club unfortunately for them but I think right now they’re making a lot of Buzz yeah so do you want to talk about Mexican League yeah let’s get right into it all right because yeah it starts
Today right yeah it does I think the the first game katero TCA Mazon and St Louis St Lou kind of had a run last year um well not last oh yeah it is last year now 2024 but yeah I mean I’ll be pulling for CH us for bet though obviously
Always a CH us yeah St in 22s radio but yeah I think I mean are they gonna get chichito I I think they’re still in talks to to get them is that right I’m pretty sure I think yeah they’re still in talks there’s still no final deal as of okay
We’ve reached a deal this is how much we’re willing to give you there’s there’s still a TVD to be decided and then there was somebody else that was rumored to Chie us and it’s Cade cow Cade cow right it is Cade cow right I think he’s I think he’s already
Made the move official it is officially yeah yeah they reached a deal with uh with him to to make the move there but so is he going to play tomorrow or do you think it’s going to take him to the H good question I mean probably not I
Don’t think he will but I mean to be fair none of the none of the players on that team have played a game a few weeks that’s true yeah he’s on even playing terms but he going to a new country new league yeah I mean might take him some
Time to settle in yeah he was an MLs Allstar a few years ago how often do MLS players go to Mexico and vice versa I feel like it’s pretty pretty frequently because I know a lot of uh like Mexico’s top national players tend to play in the
MLS um at least at some point in their career well we know Chicho did exactly yeah so I think there’s a lot of those kinds of players who either start in the MLS or end up you know coming to the MLS to play but I feel like it’s it’s pretty
Frequent um you know Carlos vll people like that um who I mean could he potentially go to the to the Mexican League you never know you could see it I mean he’s up there in age too he’s like what 34 yeah yeah yeah I’m pretty sure
He’s he’s he’s getting up there but yeah I think the Mexican League start of this season is pretty interesting for me I mean I don’t think I saw America lose a game last last season or last they lost one game it was in August so there you go to to uh to
Harez oh wow FC harez there you go I would have liked to have watched that game but yeah I mean obvious see they’re the favorites as they are seem to be every year I would like to see somebody keep up with them I don’t want to see
Them run away with it again this year I want to see I want to see some tus push like I want to see them make a run for that well they were without ginak for most of last season right he didn’t play a whole lot he’s got to be back now
Though yeah I hope he is but yeah lot of lot of stuff happening in the Mexican League um I think if there’s any team that you’re watching this season uh to make AIG run just just cuz we’ve talked about him a lot on the show and I’ll go with
Atletico s Louis too just cuz you know they went on a nice little run last season to end it and then um I think they can build off of that you know I don’t really know a whole lot about the like what type of contracts are on that
Team if that team’s going to be together for a long time past this season um but also Monteray you know who they just signed somebody actually I think you’re right I I want to say oh yeah Brandon Vasquez yep he left he left Cincinnati to join Mon and Jesus Corona yeah wow oh
Well that was in that was yeah that was that was like what year ago two years ago something like that I don’t know last a it was so I guess it was for the last season but he didn’t really play a lot for them did did he yeah I don’t
Think so I think you’re right but yeah Vasquez was the most recent one yeah 8.7 oh no that’s his market value 7 million not a lot but yeah it’s respectable yeah but yeah once we start getting some starting 11 back uh frequently we’ll definitely have some Mexican League players on our watch list
Yeah as the season goes on yeah it’s been a while since we had a starting 11 and honestly I had an idea where we can figure out how we want to do it but I think we need to start having some competition okay to where we
Pick a line we have two lineups going go head tohe I like that I feel like that I like that could be a little more interesting yeah I agree I agree most points something to work on for next week I agree I agree we also need
To get the cards yes the cards the card I’ll take care of that this week I’ll have to go to we’ll have to go to a big five or something oh yeah yeah yeah cards are must especially when we got we have guests on here who have some
Especially Outland takes Mah and his takes his his man united singing I last time I talked to him uh we I told him it was like right after the end of those Champions League games you know and yeah he just looked at me he’s like remember
My hot take it’s not so hot anymore is it cuz they got a pretty easy draw out of that first round they got to play they did somehow that’s that’s not V sorry soio Dad right that’s who they play yeah that’s right I don’t know why
I was thinking F in no yeah that’s that’s true well wait I thought soio dad was in the I’m saying PSG and so d That’s the match up I just confused them with another Spanish team with Royale that’s right well yeah I think um it’ll be
Interesting to see once we get some some cards in here what our guest what our guests think of the cards Luton Town just scored a 90th minute equalizer we talking about them beforehand my roommate just threw 100 bucks on them so we started a career mode with Luton Town
We play we both play on the same team together and I don’t know if you’ve ever tried playing FIFA with another person like it’s extremely hard like you got to like feed off of each other’s attacking Tendencies defensive Tendencies it’s like in pro clubs I it’s like Pro Club
Yeah but um yeah it took us a while to kind of get the hang of it but uh we got Luton Town in sixth place there we’re fighting for a European spot right now we got playing with the they’re starting 11 or you made any signings uh we made a couple
Signings uh we signed a couple guys from the Mexican League because you know FIFA if you’re FIFA career mode expert the first thing you do is you go to the free agents oh yeah and you can sign all the Mexican guys broken absolutely broken yeah so we got
Uh what was his name Israel Reyes I believe he’s from Santos or Leo one of those yeah I think S I think you’re right and then Eric I can’t think of his name Sanchez Eric Sanchez from puka I like that move I like that move a lot yeah so
He one of our lwn yeah dude Lut town are on the up and then who else did we get we got oh you know we signed Hugo theice wow we signed Hugo theice on a oneyear deal so he’s staying in the Prem staying in the Prem yeah we beat we beat LFC to
It to to the job there you go man you go FIFA career mode has uh been taken off speaking of FIFA we uh one of our our segments that we’ve been wanting to do for I want to say a few weeks now I feel like we’ve had this this segment lined
Up for a few weeks yeah we had the episode get cancelled and you know run out of time a few a few se a few shows yeah we were supposed to do it last week right right but I think this is a perfect time to get right into it FIFA
24 tactics now I know we talked about a little bit last week but I know that you haven’t played too to much in the last I haven’t played any Ultimate Team that’s right that’s right I play career mode now um Ultimate Team it’s just I feel
Like it takes some years off of my life and if you play FIFA competitively you will know what I’m saying I mean that is the most stress inducing sports game that you’ll ever play oh yeah 100% 100% but yeah career Mode’s fun I just really like building a
New team and signing players and setting the tactics um how I want it but yeah do we have it up on the screen yet oh this is our dream team yeah so we can you want to do the Dream Team first or you want to get into the go right
Into let’s just let’s just let the viewers and the listeners know uh what we’re talking here so this is a little bit different than starting 11 um I know this might look very similar to what a starting 11 would look like but this is actually Zach’s created dream team as
You can see on the screen and I actually like I think it’s as close to perfect as you can get yeah they’re just yeah um back three with vanav van kund and tamori that’s just fun like three pacy center backs that can if they’re beat they can run you
Down unless you’re in bappe maybe yeah well um and then that Midfield Unstoppable you’re not getting through that Midfield Roger is a CDM dang and Belling him in the middle just bossing the park and then on the outside you got DeMarco and frong just flying up and
Down doing a little bit of both and then I like putting k at striker I know he’s more like a Winger but you can kind of have him as like a left forward kind of sitting underneath Harry Kane I like that and I mean I don’t know if you’ve
Played with him in FIFA Kasa yeah like if you play with juvent or Italy um in FIFA he is like the ball glues to his feet and he just runs past everybody like he’s one of the most smooth players to like play with and to control the
Ball with yeah I was going to say I I haven’t played with him but now that you mention it I might have to uh to throw him in one of my squads or something get get him going that’s a good that’s a good pick also Harry Kane I mean
Obviously Harry Kan har he’s just the most complete striker of all time I mean his career is not over yet so don’t want to speculate he’s got another like six years in him being at the top of this game 100% especially like leaving clubs leaving his hometown or his hometown
Club his his Boyhood Club his Boyhood club and like people might expect him to you know degress a little bit but he has not done that at all big up Harry Kane good Pi this formation the 3-1 4-2 I never thought I would run I mean I used
I usually would run like a 352 or like a 451 in FIFA but for whatever reason this one just works beautifully I don’t know what it is I I’ve been struggling with formations like for a long time it feels like at least because I feel like right I think
Right now what I’ve been running when I play as a fiveback yeah with two Wing backs three center backs and I just don’t know what else to run like nothing seems to work for me like attacking just feels wrong so I might have to you know get into a three back formation three
Center back I feel like well it’s hard to play with three at the back and like if you’re going to play three at the back your wing backs are your midfielders the higher up they’re going to be they got to be able to get back
You know what I mean so that’s why I think it’s perfect for DeMarco and frong those guys are Pacey both good Crossing stats um they can attack and defend 100% I got to try this out I I want to go home and start a new career mode and
Then just do Financial take well I need to do Financial takeover give give the club like 500 million to work with and then just sign all these players cuz see how the team runs I wonder how much this team would cost like now that I think
About it yeah I mean b alone like that’s 100 Mil Harry Kane’s 100 Mil K is probably like 80 mil so there’s 280 right there for three players not to mention like rodri toori D young I mean vanen we we haven’t you know he still has time to Blossom like come on like
That’s we should have done some research into finding the actual Club worth you know what that’s that’s our that’s our job for next week’s show we we’ll find the we’ll find out how much money we need to raise how much money we need to spend on these on this team in
FIFA but yeah I think the the squad is a good one I feel like we when we start our starting 11 again like you mentioned having them against each other is going to be a good idea but yeah next week uh I want to I want to know what your dream
FIFA Team looks like oh yeah no I’ll I’ll I’ll take one up I mean I just this is my goto I I saw you didn’t have any no Legends no icons in there I I don’t I was going for current I was going to say
I didn’t know if you wanted to put any in there cuz I feel like it might be a little bit of a cheat code yeah to toss in like a a Pelle a hull or yeah Hull hullet is like my favorite if I had hullet he’d go in for rodri yeah so yeah
I think there’s a lot of different things you can do with this dream team but I’ll definitely toss one in there uh see what you think see what you guys think and maybe Carlos can TOS we we got to get I’ll bring my Xbox over we’ll just have a Fifa tournament yeah there’s
A what the CER I always that’s over there it’s literally right down the hallway we can just walk over after this and play some FIFA yeah full-time in Turf Mo the one1 Burnley and Luton both of those teams the bottom of that was actually a pretty important game for
Both of those teams considering their placement and the standings well yeah cuz now Luton are in the I feel like they weren’t in the relegation Zone but they are now well they already were they were in 18th if they had won this game they would have jumped over Everton okay
Yeah but now they’re tied on points with Everton brenford are only three points clear Nigam Forest four Crystal Palace five I feel like those teams right there from 14th to 18th those five teams I think are the relegation battle there because Palace Forest brenford Everton yeah exactly because Burnley and
Sheffield are I mean they seem to be already out in my opinion they seem to be done yeah we talked about it a little last week you know who’s going to stay up or down and we’ll definitely do a little bit more of that segment next
Week but yeah I’m rooting for Luton not just because I have a FIFA career mode with them but Luton over Everton yeah see that’s that’s my question that’s tough because I like Everton I mean they’ve been kind of gutted with their 10-point deduction that’s why the they’re they’re going to be fine they’re
Going to be fine I just think they’ve they got to keep some form going they’ve lost three straight games yeah um and now they’re tied with loon on point their next game is against Villa not an easy game so I feel like there’s a lot of these matchups this week that like I
I might have you know glossed over but they might be more significant than I thought like this Everton Aston Villa game is a huge game for Everton I mean every game is a h even looking at Arsenal and Palace I mean Arsenal are trying to find some form and stay in the
Top four trying to they went from Lonely at the Top to uh s in fourth place so and if you’re Palace yeah you want to separate yourself a little bit from those bottom three to four teams um brenford and Forest against each other both teams kind of in that mix so
There’s a lot of important games and especially you know it’s been it’s been a while since we’ve had some Premier League oh yeah um 100% they haven’t played in 2024 yet have they I don’t think they I think besides that’s a good yeah a good January 2nd between West Ham and uh
Brighton that’s right the last Premier League game so that was almost two weeks ago yeah that’s crazy I didn’t I didn’t realize i’ taken that they had to play they had their FA Cup that’s right that’s right yeah and then there’s a a couple friendlies going on but yeah yeah
And then did you see that Onana even though he’s playing I saw that he’s gonna play in the game he played for Cameroon right yeah I want to say want to say one of those one of those team I think it’s camon yeah I saw for them and
Then fly back to Manchester and play against Tottenham I thought he was going to fly I thought he was going to play in the game and then fly oh it’s the other way around I think it was the other way around okay that’s what it is but that
Would be even crazier to fly to uh Cameroon and then fly back and then play the game and then just go back and then go back yeah that would be crazy but that I mean if that is true that’s that’s wild I thought I saw that that
Same thing but the Jerry told me about how Denny banga did that for gabone and for LFC he play flew yeah he played a game in Gabon somewhere for some International Tournament and then flew back to the uh the states to play for LFC and then he bagged a hattick that
Night I don’t know when it was right against who but Jerry told me that and I was like that sounds like something that would happen the jet lag did not get to him no not at all not at all good for him man I mean that’s a lot of we talked
About transfers and we can probably finish this show with some speculation about transfers but yeah I was going to say in in lie of no starting 11 no kit check this week we’ll get both of those back next week but we finally have time for stoppage time yeah we do we do rapid
Fire um okay I I’ll I’ll here let me get this really quick and then I’ll start rapid fire so top four teams Liverpool Aston Villa Manchester City and Arsenal big signing in the next well before the transfer Windows over yes or no for any of those
Teams any of those teams I think yeah I think Arsenal are going to try to get the striker that they want okay I don’t know I think the big talk of Europe right now is Victor Osan at Napoli they’re not really doing too hot down in
Italy at least in Siri all they’re still in uh the round of 16 or The Knockout they got to play Barcelona yeah but there’s around it’s like an 80 to 90 million price tag on him right if there’s a team that’s going to trigger I could see it being Arsenal um they’ve
Really needed a striker this year so yeah I’m going to say yes I like it I like it top four teams big signing incoming um now speaking of big signings Chelsea we haven’t really talked about them too much this show s in 10th right now they’ve won their last two games now
We’ve talked about this a little bit last week few weeks whatever the case do they throw money at a striker do they throw money at aaman do they throw money at somebody else do they like what what do they do in the transfer market honestly I think they have everything
They need really I mean that’s just from an outsider standpoint like they’ve spent so much money on all these players they’re just all banged up they haven’t really had a chance to have all these guys play together um just when you get one guy back two more guys will go down
And so it’s like hard to kind of consistency consistently I have this I had the same beef with dirt bag baseball last year where the reason they weren’t able to get a rhythm going is because every every game it was a different lineup yeah and it wasn’t because it was just
You got to have some consistency with the lineup so you can kind of develop an identity of who you are as a team and right now Chelsea don’t have that um but they’ve got a chance against the West London rival in Fulham tomorrow uh to take care of that business but yeah
Maybe they can turn two wins in a row to three yeah we’ll see but no to answer your question do I think they will no but I would not be surprised if they make a splash in January I kind of expect them to at least you know make a significant
Splash in the market but you never really know with those kinds of teams what they’re going to do at the deadline do you think they go Striker or Defender oh I think they go Striker 100% yeah regard if that’s oen or if that’s somebody else like I think they just
They need some somebody need a goal yeah they need a goal score need a goal scorer and then we’re just about a time but before we do one more question for you and I can answer this one too Tottenham Manchester United this Sunday 8:30 a.m. score prediction and player of
The match give me two score prediction I’m GNA go I’ll go 3-2 like can see being high scoring 3-2 Tottenham Tottenham yeah sorry should have specified that scared me a little bit there 32 Tottenham I was going to say 31 but give give United some I mean some
Goal scoring credit I guess it just depends on which United Team you get are they going to fall flat or are they going to respond cuz like I always think that game against Villa where they were down two-nil and then they look like a completely different team in the second
Half um but they’ve got some they’ve got some players that can show up on any day um it’ll be weird to see Erikson playing against spers I’m not excited for that game I’m not excited for that part of it and are they they’re at Tottenham no
It’s oh it’s at Old Traer that’s right um player of the match I’m gonna go Brennan Johnson why not Brennan Johnson yeah why not I like it the dark he’s had some good performances this year um I just want to see him get a little more creative with
With uh in the final third I like that and I have a feeling is this is the performance that he can get we can get it from I like that I don’t know why I’m just feeling a brenon Johnson like goal and an assist along those same lines I’m gonna take
Rich Charleson for my player of the match rich I I picking him to bag of brace two goals for charos in this game I might love to see it does Teo verer get any minutes I think he does yeah I think dragus starts I think team over Runner comes off the
Bench yeah that’s my prediction right now we’ll see I agree with that I agree with that um but good game on Sunday we you know a lot of good games this weekend make sure to catch up on some premier league but we are out of time so
Thank you guys for joining us yeah don’t go anywhere dunk discussions is up next with El and Daniel but as far as footy Fridays thank you for tuning in to episode 11 with Carlos Zach me and Desi um but yeah thank you for tuning in 22
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Stop I got something to prove playing with that you going to definitely lose never slow down cuz I got to get to it I got the time but I got to get moving I don’t have time to be playing with you okay welcome back guys to another dunk discussion podcast we have Daniel
Matthew here every Friday at 2m we’re back in the studio and this is L by the way so Danielle is going to start off with some topics that happened throughout this week I think right yeah that’s right okay good and then we’re just going to talk about some some other
Stuff that happened I’m so excited for this episode actually because there’s a lot of drama going on per usual but yeah we’re gonna go into that never a dull moment in the NBA and this is just a general overview of what went down in this past week since we’ve been gone so
Celtics fight out the timber rules and overtime to go 18-0 at home all the while the next night going to Milwaukee and getting absolutely Smoked by like a million points by the Bucks W bana triple double 16 12 and 10 in 21 minutes Cavs beat the Nets in Paris France 111
To 102 I think we might be starting to see some more International games coming up uh they they actually said that they’re going to expand their their program over in France so it’s going to be like a like a like a like a um a developmental League the
Professional league and I think the National Team league or something like that they’re going to be trying to develop players and Lakers big home stand we brought up last time around have made no changes and they’re two and three on that big home stand um they’re
Just not looking great and one of the teams that beat them the the New Orleans Pelicans are six out of their last have won six out of the last seven their only losses to the hot the red the smold smoldering hot Clippers they beat the Kings by 33 and a struggling Warriors
Team by 36 points there also been a couple other things that’s going on in NBA news yeah we have okay hang on we need to we need a wemi rajovic rajovic d drao or Draco how do you say it correctly I think it’s Draco Drago okay
Dro is it Drago no that’s the guy from Rocky that’s the remember did you see Rocky yeah yeah is that what his name Drago Drago Drago Drago the GM Mike heading heading through the the landscape looking good with the leather jacket baby Drago rvic Drago rajovic yeah if we can get some we
Had a tough time getting audio last time didn’t we so pretty much in the LA in the fourth quarter of the Kings not the Kings I got Kings on my brain uh Lakers that’s a little bit of a preview for my All-Star lineup if we do get to it
Tonight today I think we should this is the afternoon you guys got ready so the last the last quarter the fourth quarter of the Lakers versus the Toronto Raptors which rajovic is is the coach of which it’s like crazy because I knew that they lost Nick nurse yeah but I was like oh
This guy’s the coach of the of the Raptors I had no clue you didn’t know he was the coach I didn’t know he was a I didn’t know his name like it’s Drago Draco I mean it’s it’s spelled with a key I just don’t know if it’s Draco I
Don’t think it’s Draco cuz that’s like an Americanized version of the name I’d say Darko is d a r KO okay dark okay we professional journalism going on right here people Darko Raj rajakovich r a j a k o Slavic can I see it yeah how’ you Darko rajakovich it’s probably like
Darko Darko rajakovich or something something like that I like how you said that yeah cuz it’s Slavic ROV yeah yeah that’s basically what I was saying right yeah so anyway the last four minutes of the game the Lakers took 19 three uh free throw shots and the Raptors took absolutely zero no
No no they did take but not I don’t remember which which quarter but it was um two they made free throws two times but honestly In the comparison to the amount of times Lakers made their free throws was yeah well the total fourth quarter count was I believe 23 free
Throws for the Lakers two for the two for the Raptors and he had something to say producer Matt is working on some audio here let me see if I can just YouTube it real quick so we can play it no yeah because I honestly I think I like
I I’ve seen it somewhere I’m just the thing is honestly he is like if I was a head coach that’s that’s me yeah that would be me because this is the rent that I have every time after I watch a game where something unfair happened
This is what I want to do get on the get on give me the mic sit me down somewhere and make someone ask me a question yeah because the the rent that he went on honestly whoever this is this this is supposed to be the like do you think he’s right cuz
I do oh absolutely so I take that no what kind of basketball just for legal purposes this is not YouTube This is okay just to just to let everybody know I’m not this is completely BS this is shame shame for the referees shame for the league to allow this 23 free throws for
Them and we get two free throws in in the fourth quarter like how to play the game I I understand uh respect for all stars and all that but we have star players on our team as well how’s possible that Scotty Barnes who is Allstar caliber player in this league he
Goes every single time to the rim with force and trying to get get to to the rim without flopping and and not trying to get foul calls he gets two free throws for a whole game how’s that possible How You Gonna explain that that to me they had to win tonight if that’s
If that’s the case just let us know so we don’t show up for the game that was not fair tonight and this is not happening first time for us okay that’s that that is the gist of it and I want to F key in on him saying if
We’re not supposed to win tonight yeah just let us know so we don’t come just let us know so we don’t come right yeah and there’s a lot of okay there’s a lot of there’s a lot of talk about across the league especially the NFL NBA about their being a script and everything’s
Predetermined and stage and all that sort of stuff right yeah I I they my my my wild this because I’m I love sports so much I do not believe in this conspiracy theory although I do love conspiracy theories yeah but this is not one that I lock into because I do think
That the coordination of all of that and just having nobody leak any actual information is near impossible right I think it’s possible so take it to let’s take let me take you to exhibit a okay okay what did you do did you do a whole like conspiracy theory on that your own
Well let me so so there there’s a little bit of there’s a little bit of of a background okay so okay can I say something okay no go for it no go for it go for it my thing is you Cliff hanging the script writing thing when I was a
Kid I used to think that every single game is scripted yeah when I was like I’m not talking like oh I was 7even and a I’m I I’m talking like cuz my dad put me onto Sports so he’s like guilty for that so when I would watch like football
Games I would not believe that people who are calling the game are actually doing it like live I thought that they had a script and players are just very good actors yeah straight up that’s that’s my process of thinking that’s yeah yeah and when I grew up like a
Little and then my dad was I asked my dad a question he was like it’s not scripted what do you mean so but I think my kid childhood dreams are coming true now we have scripted basketball guys no and I’m just worried I’m just so have
You seen so have you seen the guy it’s like a a a video that went viral like like uh years back where he he’s talking he’s it’s like a an open forum and there’s a bunch of pro wrestlers up on the stage and he starts like breaking
Down emotionally he’s like what do you have done to your bodies it’s real to me damn it right and so like I’m afraid that I will become that guy but I still don’t think it’s staged I still don’t think it’s staged you think so but let me take you to
Exhibit a to because I like to I like to give both sides of the coin you know I might be wrong so disgrace referee caught for fixing games Tim donie right M he came out with a quote this is in NBC Sports Bay Area he did a uh he did a
A a a Sacramento Kings podcast speaking on the 2002 game six against the Lakers and the kings in La I wasn’t even born so you weren’t even born but this was like this was the only comparable quarter in the history ever maybe not there might be other quarters like this
But so where the Lakers took 27 free throws to the Kings n in the last quarter of the game and the Lakers came back and won that game and the the Kings blew it in game seven at home right 27 27 so this was 23-2 and that game was 27
To9 as far as free throw free throws taken differential right and this is Tim doni already been caught for gambling and stuff like that so he kind of had this whole what he just like went on it you can actually watch it it’s it’s on there’s a Netflix about him it’s called
Untold there’s a there’s a sport series I’ve heard something about it I’ve been putting it off but I’m going to watch now it’s pretty good but he’s also lying he said he made like 60 Grand throughout the whole process what do you expect from the person that’s already lying see the
Truth so and I’ve got to quote him so but but he said that he got but they the document documentarians they Dr they broke it down to like he got a boat he had cars he had a house that he couldn’t afford so he didn’t actually make 60
Grand he cleaned up pretty fat on all the games that he fixed anyway so he also said that was the money that he was given that he probably had money on the games as well yeah not just the money he was giv dble your profit income right so that brings
Me to my that that the whole gambling thing brings me to my point that I’m going to bring out after this quote in regard to the 2002 game six NBA Finals game or NBA Western Conference Finals game between the Kings and the Lakers which was a heated rivalry at that time
T quote he claimed several times in regard to this dude Napier that was refereeing the game in 2002 he claimed several times to several of us that he was the NBA’s top go-to guy he was put on game sixes to force game sevens I think there’s no doubt in my mind or a
Lot of people from the inside of the NBA they know that that game that they gave that game to the Lakers uh several the benefit of the doubt several calls in that game thinking it was just going to go to a game seven and Sacramento was
Going to win on their home floor the Lakers win they win the championship and really it’s unfortunate for Sacramento because they should have definitely have the ring on their finger end quote yeah um so that’s like that’s that’s straight from the horse’s mouth and he’s
A he’s a you know he yeah not an honest guy in the first place right but also like interesting to interesting to just hear that being said out loud and definitely watch the documentary because he fix there’s another there’s another another old 30 for 30 about how actually
The team that’s playing Cal State lomes tonight in volleyball uh Long Island University they were fixing games back in the day too I hate that yeah but there were college kids because there were college kids about college about I’m just talking about the idea of someone gambling ah the idea of gambling
Is the risk that you take in order to me either lose everything or win everything yeah so when you when you stage games isn’t it it’s stupid well it’s crazy so okay so this is okay it’s it’s mind-blowing because do you still do you guys think they still fix games yeah I
Just think they do if if it had a place back then I think honestly knowing people’s mentality and knowing people as overall like Humanity there the second the sport started the second the sport began to exist like the second NBA was created maybe a couple of months in that’s when
People started gambling games and etc etc and that’s second start that’s been the history and if it was pretty evident at one point it’s still happening now was just more lowkey because the okay go ahead well you know what’s crazy like I think it was the second the game was
Start well not the second game because the second the leag because there were a couple leagues like while the NBA was starting up and stuff but this is crazy so like old headlines for basketball stuff back in the day they called The Players Cagers yeah right and because
They would play in a fenced in area with the crowd on the outside but in gyms because it would protect them from the craziness of the fans like throwing stuff at them and all that sort of crazy thing I mean soccer still does it it’s
Been yeah yeah so I’m go ahead as far as gambling goes we have had a number of players more specifically in the NFL caught and gotten in trouble for breaking the rules on gambling for their league since gambling has become come legal nationally we have yet to see a
Referee Scandal and this to me is one of the most egregious examples like there are some of the fouls are legit but there were a couple of them where there was one specifically that I remember where uh RJ Bears just standing there and Anthony Davis comes from across the
Court runs into his back and falls down Falls over and Anthony Davis has got like what 70 pounds on RJ Barrett and RJ Barrett wasn’t even expecting the hit so to me that’s a flop you know that should have been technical foul on Anthony Davis for even attempting to do that so
I mean there it’s you know my thing is as a society whatever you create there’s going to be a percentage of people that breaks the rules and they’re not going to get caught they’re not going to get fined nothing’s going to happen I’m just saying people lie we can’t avoid that I
Would love to see a clean play a clean sport but yeah it’s possible we’re not getting it I mean Darko was very pissed in that interview he I understand I think that this should be an exception out of their rule where they don’t find find him like
You know but even if 25 Grand they find a 25 Grand okay it was worth it though which is way less than Cuban got Cuban got find like 500 grand for doing a similar thing actually I feel like dark they he was being just he was Darko was
Much more eloquent and beautiful in the way he said that those eyes that he was giving these people was just like crazy eyes to mess with that guy you know I would not ask him just said it just flat out you know what I mean uh but he but
He’s also worth billions of dollars so the League’s like yeah we’ll we’ll touch him up for 500k yeah this which is which is more than what that the football owner for the for the for the uh the Carolina Panthers he threw a drink on some fans
And they find him like 250 I love emotions that Sports gives honestly all the anger Carolina Panthers are down bad what do you have to say about this situation meew you have any op well I think the whole situation um I mean when it comes to fouls this always happens
With the Lakers like the Lakers always get a lot of fouls and and a lot of people come out and they say it’s cheating or like all the Lakers is fixed for them to win this and that and it’s like okay you could say that but like time and time again the Lakers
Personally I always stand on this Lakers are always been a good defensive team to me and they don’t do a lot of fing maybe that’s just the Homer in me but also I think when it comes to the offensive end and they do push the ball
And when they do play how they should be playing they put pressure on the defense Anthony Davis LeBron James are two people that are superstars and one thing I will say is there is a superstar whistle yeah and he and and Darko brought that up in his rant about how he
Has SC Barnes who’s an Allstar potential player and stuff like that and that that bodess the question like if you are a superstar do you really need that extra help like should Superstars get more whistles than like if I’m if I’m LeBron and I touch some
And and there’s no foul for my defense and somebody touches me the same way and they get fouled for that play I’m already above and beyond better than you sure he’s he’s like what they would say is earn the right for that foul call but
At the same time it’s like a fouls a foul isn’t it like are are we playing like with rules or we just like kind of just bouncing off the walls here and just letting the better I guess that is kind of like the rich get richer and
Then the poor they got to they got to CLA their way up to that position um yeah I don’t know I don’t know me neither that’s a that’s an that’s an interesting point but I do think that if the league if this script is conducted the way it should be conducted um my
Preseason prediction is going to be true Lakers Celtics Celtics going to take it in the finals I mean come on like this are you sure now though look I read the book you I got I got it you know it’s like my little black book I got in my
Back pocket baby let’s do it whatever this is I’m just all I can do is yeah no I it’s a big league with a lot of money yeah money Sports all combined that’s what you get money Sports all com take a little bit of sports and take a whole lot of money and
This is what you’ll get gambling referees and piss Darko rovic so yeah no that that was pretty that was pretty also think it’s telling because when the Lakers like Lakers couple weeks ago they complain about foul calls right and they felt like oh or or not even a couple
Weeks ago but when the Lakers or if the Lakers come out like the Boston Celtics like last year right people bash LeBron for um throwing a tantrum on the court or they’ll uh bash him if he comes out in the media and complain like the coach
Did right yeah cuz he already gets a bunch of calls already but he also doesn’t get a lot of we just said that we just said the superstars get crazy just like that’s just the Natural Way of the get a bunch of he also gets a lot of
Calls that he doesn’t I don’t think it’s about that I think it’s just about people having different perspective different opinions different looks out on the game like you look at the game through one lens yeah I look at the game through a complet completely different lens you have a third lens imagine how
Many people are a fan of a sport and imagine how many lenses do we have and everyone has to say something everyone has their own opinion but at the end of the day there’s no do you think that there is a big T1 truth that is like the
Truth and if you have a separate opinion then it’s wrong two sides I know I know there’s two sides to every see I don’t think there is a truth been I’ve been down this this rabit hole okay I do think that there is an ultimate truth I
I but I agree with what you’re saying with what you’re saying the of like weally don’t perceive it right but for an example let me try to Rel myself from the lens I was previously viewing because you can always change your perspective to try to bring to try to
Bring yourself closer to that capital T yeah right so I’m going to try to pull this back and say I will agree with you in some sense because LeBron is so big and powerful sometimes the fouls aren’t as noticeable when somebody whacks him across the arm because he just Powers
Right through it so like there is there is that for sure you know what I mean uh but when it comes to capital T truth I do think that that exists it’s just a matter of whether or not you can achieve the perception of a capital T truth I
Don’t think someone’s opinion can be 100% true right because if it was 100% true it would have everyone no human might might um possess the capital T truth opinion and I’m not saying like God possesses it or whatever you know what I mean but it does exist somewhere
Out there and unless we just can’t reach it cuz but like unless our capacity that our mind has right but unless we try to reach it yep we’re never going to we’re never going to be better as people in a society and stuff like that yeah for
Example like when we have so like let’s say there’s two engineers and they’re trying to figure out how to make the most efficient camera or something like that right okay um they both have opinions on how to make a better camera camera right and if they keep and if
They and they don’t change their biases of their two different ideas they’re never going to meet in the middle and actually achieve their goal of making a great camera or a better camera from the original so yeah they’re getting closer to the capital T truth and maybe eventually the greatest camera ever made
Will be the truth is NBA referees are gamblers and I think so you know you know okay so real quick on the gambling thing there is another one have you seen the Good Fellas have you seen Good Fellas what is that is it a series Good Fellas is a
Movie from like the early 90s or something like that and uh it’s a Martin scors AC movie and it’s like about the mob it’s about a real character his name’s uh Henry Hill I believe his name is but he’s he’s the one that set up the
So what he would do he was fixing games right but he would what he would do was he wouldn’t just put a bunch of money down with one person he had a network across the country where they would hit where each person would hit up multiple bookies and they just put like a
Reasonable bet down but between all of these transactions you had this system would you do it like if someone tell someone gave you a contact book with like the amount of people that you have to reach out to give money to so you can like double whatever you already have would you ever
Get into the gambling business for that or no like would I if I knew I was going to win a bet would I do it yeah I mean that’s hard to say no to right yeah but would it’s not really much of a bet if you know you’re going to win if I’m
Would I would I coordinate the whole thing to fix a game would if somebody was like yeah no I mean no like if I if I made I was talking about fixing a game I’m sorry I I phrased my question wrong but would you do it or not no no I would
Be there for like the information but I wouldn’t I wouldn’t coordinate the whole thing that would be so hard but like no I it no I could I I don’t know I probably wouldn’t I don’t know would you would you do probably yeah I I would i’ probably do it once just to
See especially if it’s like imagine a final Lakers game I’m rooting for Lakers D would you this is you fix I’m going to rule yeah I’m going to fix the game in so you know you know a ref no I don’t know a I’m saying like if there is
Theoretically if there is a possibility for me to rule the game I probably would try it once yeah just for the you know yellow yeah but I think I would not I would not make my income of that probably because I’m not stopping over my morals this mon
Like to constantly make money of it probably not I think it for sure happen I me I just do it for the fun of it and then like probably even not I don’t know I don’t have a like specific answer to that I mean it’s interesting like you
Think about okay because you can just drop a bet on an app right and it doesn’t necessarily have to I used to do that yeah it doesn’t necessarily have to be on your phone either like you can have somebody do it for you do it for
You and kind of like you know somebody you knew since childhood and you don’t really like that’s exactly how it happen right you know what I mean and you just kind of like you just know them and then like I’m sure they have some things in
Play as far as these Pro leagues go to try to track that sort of activity but yep I mean gambling’s been legal in Europe forever and we’re just we’re just babies in this game yeah yeah also NBA and NFL like they they promote the betting but everybody does right ESPN bet this is
This is one of the most hilarious things I’ve ever seen ESPN bet sponsors ESPN television shows it’s like bro that’s like you’re sponsoring yourself you’re not even sponsoring anybody you’re just slapping your name up there and okay you guys want to take a quick media timeout time out media timeout okay we’ll see
You guys in a couple of minutes thank you for joining us we’re going to be back in what two three minutes sure I got to get to it I got the time but I got to get moving I don’t have time to be playing with you this is no time to be playing it’s stupid could be the difference from winning and losing could be the difference from hundreds or Millions if we do business I’m
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You welcome back to dunk discussions on 22 West I am Daniel and I am Daniel McMahon join with L and producer Matt I just want to start this off with a PSA elira is not a part of organized crime nor does she currently or actively fix games L take the stage
Please hi everyone this is my apology no my thing is I completely like I got so excited about the topic that I literally forgot I think this is the quickest YouTube apology anyone has ever seen thing is I got so excited about the topic and the situation that I completely phrased my
Question wrong I can literally see everyone’s looking for what I’m about to say but my thing is I would probably never do that like let’s be real my question was if I was a referee and someone paid me to fix a game I would not I would not thank you that’s my
Statement that’s it that’s everyone whatever you all need to hear and I’m saying that if there’s a guarantee I will take the bet so if there’s anybody out there that is fixing games send the information my way slide in the DM T talk repeat on oh wait never mind my
Bad this is all you do have Long Island University playing the volleyball team tonight which should be pretty interesting as that’s that when I was talking about the college fixed games back in the day that was I’m literally scared to talk I can’t talk anymore I’m just I’m just waiting for another
Another disc speaking of apologies we have Draymond Green beautiful segue by the way L and what do I mean we’re talking about the non-apology Draymond Green gave it’s basically like in my this is okay he apologizes to Curry he he he doesn’t he’s he pretty much says I’m sorry for
Putting everybody in these positions I don’t remember him saying I’m sorry Yousef nurkic for knocking you out nearly cold and also uh choking Rudy goar there was a little at least there was a brawl happening with Rudy goar but the whatever thing is okay so this is the P this is Draymond Green’s
Non-apology one of one of his many statements so one in one statement he pumps up Bob Meyers former GM another statement he pumps up coach Steve Kerr another statement he pumps up uh Steph Curry uh he Adam Silver yada y out all sort of stuff some other guy
That’s in that works with him silver this is one snippet of what Draymond has been throwing down the past week one thing about this process that really hurt me I turned on the TV screen and Stephen A Smith was like Steph is a bad leader because Draymond did X and it
Pissed me off it but it crushed me it crushed me because how is Stefan during being a bad leader like this guy doesn’t give give us anything to tear him down about this guy does everything the right way and yet he’s being torn down because
Of my actions it crushed me that was a tough blow to deal with it sounds great on the surface right uh he also ended this he had he had about an hourong podcast and I watched a f minute snippet of it and he ended it by saying
All this stuff about how bad he felt and then he says hey but a leopard can’t lose its spots I do not expect Draymond Green to stop doing what he’s doing maybe for a week or two I’m not too sure but it’s he still sees himself as what
He is Flor is yours though so what’s your opinion necessarily Onre MCG Green in his style of playing because what I’ve seen I’ve seen two sides in metal people are like with all the harsh things that he does on court I don’t know if he messed up
Sports with wrestling or did he forget where he is but whatever I’m just saying some people are like oh my God he’s bringing back the 80s kind of League that we had yeah and everybody’s looking around scared yeah but the thing is the league for sure became softer without a
Doubt 100% since the 80s 100% we saw people like swing on each other back then now we don’t see that anymore because this is the sport every we leave in a complete Society but unfortunately no matter what kind of a decision you make there are going to be some
Downsides to it obviously NBA might not be as entertaining as it was when people would punch each other in the face is had had a little bit of a hockey element to it back then I miss hockey someone take me to a hockey game but anyways they’re playing there’s two team
I know I just have no time what I’m saying is Draymond Green I’ve never been to a Kings game I’ve been a few Ducks games it’s a good spot I’ve only went to hockey back home that’s that’s the what’s it like what’s it like over there rough yeah love the
Game I absolutely don’t take me like don’t take me out of my topic cuz I get too excited when I start talking about hoe um I mean for my city yeah or what your my my city has a very very good team it’s called locomotive locomotive mhm locomotive yeah but that’s how you
Say it in Russian love the team yeah love it what does that translate to well it’s like a like train there is no translation a locomotive yeah yeah that is but that just said it in Russ yeah look yeah I love that team you took me off the topic off my trail green
Apologies ‘ 80s 80ss basketball that I was talking about um the thing is this is not his first kind of accident no they suspended him indefinitely because they’re like we don’t know what to do with this guy yeah dayare over there 12 games later I’m just saying um this is
Not the first time he did that but is this the first apology that he did cuz I don’t this is this is the first apology he’s never he’s never said sorry which you know speaking of the 80s Matt maybe maybe you give us a fresh screen of
Fights from the 80s and ’90s in basketball because my that would be a good backdrop to talk about Draymond my thing is would I I think that Draymond Green I’ve never seen really a player being that physical during a game yeah would I love to see it though if I say yes people
Outside this Ser going to be like what are you talking about again that’s a crazy take but I don’t know honestly I think oh my God yes yeah this is what I’m talking about I honestly basketball is not that’s Dr J versus Larry Bird right there little Brew
Haa this is 80s basketball that I’m talking about yeah get a montage or yeah okay the thing is um I don’t think basketball is the kind of a sport that has that needs to have the have these kind of moments yeah because basketball we have a lot of sports it’s a complex
Sport talking about soccer is what the function of the sport is like measure your limits how much you can run have a lot of skills hockey the harder you hit the better basketball is a complex sport because you have you have to have a complete control over your body you have
To be have to have a lot of core strength you have to throw the ball at the specific kind of altitude or whatever like there’s so much more that goes into the process off playing basketball and there’s so much Beauty into this SP that I don’t think we
Should have this physicality as you know what I mean so Draymond Green apologizing for it took him long enough yeah after the all the things that he’s done took him long enough but do what are yall think thoughts on is he going to do it again ever like or you think
He’s done I think well okay so so a part of what he what he was saying on his on his compassion train was like I Adam Silver kept me from retiring right I think that because Draymond respects Steph Curry so much and Klay Thompson in
The same sense he will he won’t he won’t leave him completely out to dry he’s going to finish this season he also has after this season he has about $50 million over the next two years so that’s going to be tough to walk away from but I do think
That he I I don’t think he’s I I don’t think he’s not going to have another problem I think I don’t think he’s necessarily going to do what he did to use of nerkish but I do think that he is going to continue his style of play he
Said hey leopard can’t lose their spots he he fully expects himself to still be an antagonizer which back back in the day it was a little bit more accepting if that led to physicality like an actual physical fight because it wasn’t just this one guy Draymond Green walking
Around like the bully of the schoolyard where nobody else wants to fight but him but you know back then people are like hey you want to square up let’s do this this you know what I mean yeah you know what’s crazy too he knows how much it
Hurts not only him P personally it also will hurt the coach or whatever he said at his apology right and he did not deny that he’s going to do it again no like imagine you have your best friend and they do something that hurts you really
Bad and they’re like I know it’s going to hurt you if I do it again but I don’t I’m not telling you that I’m not going to do it again so what yeah all he did there’s no logic and I think that this person this people like he’s a kind of a
Person to be like Oh I’m sorry am I really though yeah I don’t even think he’ll say I’m sorry he’ll just be like hey I felt really bad I’m sorry I made you feel that way ex that’s ex I’m sorry you feel that way that’s exactly what
He’s doing and he’s talking about how so and so kept me in the league and he’s trying to play the pity party game and it just bothers me because at first when this first happened and we we spoke on it like it was this whole um oh draymond’s dealing with some stuff okay
You know Draymond right and then and then like I look and then I started looking into it and it was like oh you know like Draymond suffers from epilepsy and one of the side effects for epilepsy is like outbursts you angry emotional Outburst right true he hasn’t been on that
Medication for over five years he has he has not he stopped when he was 28 He’s 33 so you I don’t think he’s feeling side effects from a drug he hasn’t taken in five years man like it’s to you know so like the whole the whole excuses
Roller coaster and then trying to divert from the actual matter at hand with this guy it’s whatever he’s a toxic NBA player there are plenty of dudes like we got Larry Legend right here Dr Dre two Dr Dre Dr J Julius Irving two of the most respected players in the history of
The game choking each other out right here right back then like we already said it was they were about it about it you know what I mean they weren’t they they weren’t not backing down for this as one guy wanted to do it they’re like
Okay well I got to be a man and go for it right Draymond Green is the only guy that’s doing this nowadays he looks insane by for them like for what right and also not to mention Joe Dumar is one of the guys one of the main people that
Was the other guy he was he was complimenting in a statement one of the main guys that is making the decisions on all of this he part of the bad boy Pistons he was part of the bad boy Pistons and he also has known Draymond Green for pretty much his entire life
Yeah yeah so he’s got a little bit of an inside move like hey you say these things we’re going to get you back as soon as possible cuz I thought that what has he gone like two weeks but for me the thing is 12 games 12 games so it’s
Like it’s like he I feel like he would be out like a month or something but apparently he’s seen enough therapy to completely change his outlook on life I don’t think so the thing is in in my opinion which I don’t like to say whenever there is something crazy that’s
Going on it hits the climax to the point where God forbid that happens but there’s going to be a point where he hits someone so hard that it’s going to influence their life and that’s probably going to be the point where people are like oh my God no
That actually I think that happened in a college game back in the day I don’t like the idea of that happening why don’t you stop it before there is this climax where someone gets really hurt yeah maybe you should you know actually go to therapy I don’t know what kind of
Therapy he went to for two weeks on a on a lighter note on a light okay go ahead on a lighter note I am going to steal this content from uh uh you know The Dan Patrick Show but a caller called in and said that a good punishment for Draymond Green would be
What that he wears the shorts from the 80s he has to wear the 80s shorts if he wants to play like he’s playing in the 80s he’s got to wear the 80s shirts those those are crazy though that would be hilarious that would be like everybody would love that would be
I’d love to see that I think Steph would even start and laughing on that no I don’t think the I don’t think that would be for the kids can we see like for people who don’t know can you show them how short let’s they’re so short even
The running shorts back in the we’re going we’re back to Shorter shorts so I’m wearing pretty short shorts right now but do you like the idea of that or it makes you uncomfortable to to make Draymond wear the shorts no just in reg in regular life why are the shorts so
Short I wear these shorts but like men so I don’t know if I can I can do a little can’t really check check them out no that’s ridiculous that’s a bikini like that’s crazy bro that’s a bikini yeah I don’t know how you will never see me wearing that on the beach
Never ever and I’m I’m a girl and I’m probably supposed to wear that’s when everyone was wearing jock straps now we just now we just wear those athletic like you know under arour undies that yeah triple shorts and now and this is all they had back then and look at those
Socks too they if if Draymond Green showed up to a game wearing that I would just be that look painful that does look painful that’s crazy he’s getting a little launching pad down there yeah know absolutely not holy smokes so anyway we could get creative with with
Punishment so I’m just saying it doesn’t doesn’t have to be just games missed we could I just hope that he calms down publicly shame him the one thing the one thing about Draymond Green that’s how he plays that’s the only way he knows how to play is aggressive and um I feel like
There is a fine line between aggressiveness and just going overboard and like there’s too many times and we’re having this conversation over and over again about Draymond Green how many times are you going to go overboard to the fact where we sit here and we’re talking about you time and time again
Like the thing is also is this going to be the last time no I don’t think so I’m telling you right now it’s not going to be the last time because he’s not getting the right pun punishment first of all his own have praised him for this I about to say
That and then also you are completely I 100% agree with you like no matter what kind of sport you’re playing it will bring you aggression the thing is my coaches used to piss me off on purpose so I run better but I had a control over my body
And control over my thoughts to the Limit where I would not like punch someone who’s running next to me right you know which I could do easily nothing’s stopping me for real but so there is this fine line I have the physical capability I could on a
Youf saying I’m saying no I had uh very bad experiences with other sports but physical but I would never were you a fighter in your time let us know 100% okay so but one thing is you weren’t just jumping off of buildings back in the day no I learned how to put every
Single thing that I get ne which is considered negative into positive and I think this is the skill that you get when you grow up and become an adult at the end of the day when I’m 21 and someone pisses me off I use that
Negative and I go to the gym I use that negative and it gives me and I make it an energy and I do something about it you know what I mean to me so in his specific case I don’t know I don’t know it’s scary scares me I don’t
Just don’t want anyone to get injured because I do you remember the injuries from the’80s that people used to get they didn’t they honestly played like every game in the they played way more they played way more games per season than these guys do yeah I’ve seen someone had
A um I don’t remember what video was it what game was it too but someone broke like a leg and it was like an open how do you call this somebody open wound yeah yeah yeah yeah I don’t there’s been some that that that might be so we got
Only have like seven six minutes left but that might be that might be like a fun that might be like a fun um maybe not too fun actually kind of gory but interesting gnarly basketball injuries yeah I mean I’m thinking one off the top of my head um dude from Louisville um
Well yeah that one he just he just took a three-pointer and he landed and his shin I know I know bone stuck out yeah I remember that that was live was crazy and then um um also like someone got socked like he ended up becoming like a
Head coach I think he got sock car no I forgot his name anyway so yeah let’s let’s uh let’s break down our our our starting our starting fives me and producer Matt rocking the starting fives baby T at this time I don’t want you the line in between I need you to be like who got the best starting line starting five for the allar obious so just might as well give up what so all right you go first you go first all right so for my East starting lineup
Look first of all the West is so much more stacked but for the East starting five I have Jo beid Giannis Jason Tatum Tyrese Halen bur and Trey young for the E for the West I had sorry say Trey young Hal biron embiid uh Tatum Tatum and Yannis okay
Yeah and then honestly uh for the for the West I had I think I had Luca Shay niola kawhai and LeBron okay so our East is exactly the same are you serious yeah yeah yeah I got how Burton Young Giannis embiid Tatum it’s kind of a no
It’s almost like a no-brainer the only that well okay I take that back I take that back it’s not a complete no-brainer yeah there was a debate internal debate for me with Trey young and Jaylen Brunson the Knicks are playing really well this year Jaylen Brunson and is having a really good
Season the Hawks are like about to they they dude they were actually talking about trading Deonte Murray to the Lakers ear earlier today yeah yeah I seen that but Deon is not going to help him dude they need they need bogdon like I’ve been saying but the but the Hawks
Actually want to get rid of Deon so we’ll see so I was thinking like Jaylen Brunson or or Trey young but Trey Young’s got 11 assists and 27 points a game that’s that’s All-Star you got to be an All-Star if that’s what you’re doing even if you’re not and it’s not
Like the Knicks are in first place or anything so I went I went with with him okay so my West lineup a little different I got Shay Guild Alexander as you do and and then I have Anthony Edwards the Ant-Man who is playing all defensive level right now for the first
Place well him and him and the the the aay are both tied for first place with the Thunder and the Timberwolves respectively joic sabonis and Davis so I got sabonis and Davis and you have Kawai and LeBron I’m just going Davis because I mean I I like I I appreciate good
Defense and I don’t think LeBron plays a lick of Defense anymore he an All-Star without Adell LeBron’s an All-Star but comp starters the starting the top five on that team Anthony Davis has been playing defense which nobody else really on that team has been doing so he’s although they’re treading water it’s
Probably it’s his defensive play is allowing them not to just drop into the basement and then sabonis has been putting up like 20 25 30 and 50 he’s just been just like lighting up the world he’s almost Unstoppable so damont sabonis domas as I call him cuz we’re both
Um and uh joic that’s my front court right there and L just refused to make her starting starting fives that’s why she’s the judge right now okay I actually made I you know what do you I’m trying to think I’m thinking we got two we got two
Minutes okay oh my God all right no that’s fine that’s fine Celtics got absolutely mollywop by the no you think think I’ll just keep talking so I’m probably going to go I’m probably going to go with Daniels just because the the LeBron thing that really got me
He’s not of his best defense he is an Allstar as he said but Anthony is a little younger and you know has more power to I wouldn’t be mad at Anthony Davis being the starting five in the allar and I I had LeBron in that spot
Before but then I was start I saw the game last night and I was like reason say guess they play Miami or who do they play played the Suns the Suns and LeBron only scored like 10 points or something like that scor 10 points even if Anthony
Davis only puts up 10 points he’s still putting it down on the defensive end yep so Daniel thank you El I really appreciate that I guess I finally won something oh my gosh all right guys I think like to my mom up playing me off go ahead I’m just
Kidding what you what did you want to say it was my acceptance speech like at the Golden Globes for my award for winning the okay but don’t make no jokes best Allstar lineup you better jokes huh no jokes the whole thing’s a joke Real L my life’s a joke that’s that’s not true
Sir you’re right that’s true thanks Matt mine’s also also than you because I joke life is just a joke for real so does it really matter all right well that’s the end of our hour I’ll take us off so this has been dunk discussions on 22s
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Has happened in the last week since our last show and we’ll start right way tasar Hernandez going to the Dodgers to continue a fantastic offseason in Los Angeles what do you think of that move Garrett woo Dodgers yay love talking about the Dodgers you know I can do it
As long as we can yeah no it’s it’s a great move uh I had it kind of seemed like he was going to go there the whole offseason that’s really where all the traction was going was tasar going to the Dodgers I like where he slots in Mash’s lefties really well all the
Peripherals look really good bit of a high strikeout rate for me I didn’t really like how he performed last year in that Mariners offense struggled a little bit at times uh slots in around the six hole these projected lineups are saying he’s going to about six behind
Muny I don’t love that 56 like obviously very good players but you know sometimes in a big moment I could see back-to-back strikeouts from these two there’s a lot of whiff there for sure um the part about this deal that surprised me the most I think as the Dodgers and hernandz
Are being connected throughout the off season um I expected with multiple teams in the mix including the Red Sox maybe the angels that he might get at least a multi-year deal I was expecting it might run into the three or four year range at that point I was very hesitant I didn’t
Think that the Dodgers were going to go there um but winding up getting him one-year deal um at least in my opinion there isn’t really such thing as a bad one- year deal even if everything goes terribly wrong you know you’re done with it after one year you can move on and
With a guy with like tasar Hernandez who has so much slug in his in his history he struggled last year in Seattle but his home away splits looked like he played a lot better on the road I think there might have been just something going on he wasn’t seeing the ball in
Seattle but now he head Los Ang Angeles much more lineup protection in Seattle um and he he’s that big right-handed bat that the Dodgers really needed can go in he can Mash left-handed pitching he has throughout his career Ops above 850 in his career against South paaws and yeah
Just getting him for one year mitigates the risk where really all I see here for the Dodgers is upside I completely agree it’s almost a one-year kind of bet on yourself deal for tasar I don’t think anyone’s going to really give him that three four he wanted you go in you can
Sit in the heart of that order and you can hit what what you can do just sit back score some runs whenever you get on base knock in people with sack flies do whatever you need to do you’re going to put a lot of solid numbers up just by
Existing in that offense and even if he plays relatively well his numbers could be like 270 800 Ops 9500 RB just by chilling in the six hole with another 80 runs so I mean I could definitely see him getting a much bigger contract after this I don’t think he’ll stay with the
Dodgers after this season but great bet ony yourself contract for Hernandez is going to be a good one for him yeah I agree I think that another part of this that surprised me a little bit SE Oscar not really the profile that the Dodgers typically Target low walk rate high
Strikeout rate a lot of whiffs like he talked about but the deeper you dive in his profile the contact quality is just fantastic so really all the Dodgers need to do you know slide him in that six seven spot in the lineup um don’t ask for too much the offense doesn’t have to
Ride with t Oscar Hernandez um just be part of the machine um and just get the bat on the ball and good things will happen that’s kind of what it’ll come down to for him yeah good deal overall want to touch on the deferral a little
Bit I like the deferrals for this one I believe 9 and a half 10 million from 2030 to 2039 honestly if I were a player I think that’s awesome I like retire whenever he wants to retire he’s already over 30 now I’ve got a million dollars
Of income coming in for a decade by the time that comes around so right keep keep using the exploit while you still got it it’s it’s it’s pretty nice yeah we’ll see if that gets addressed in a future CBA agreement but for now totally allowed it’s specifically written in and
The Dodgers are taking advantage of that this offseason um we knew already coming in mookie bets and Freddy Freeman had some pretty significant deferrals in their deals now we’ve got Otani now tasar Hernandez with some big deferrals as well um like you said I mean the good
Thing for teoscar I think he’s betting on himself a little bit taking a one-year deal I I would say though you know it’s still 23 and a. half million even if everything goes wrong I mean he can retire and never have to worry about money ever again so he’s in good shape
Um but I I would think that this is a good opportunity for him to go to a good situation bounce back and kind of become the All-Star Slugger that we got used to seeing in Toronto and then next offseason I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s able to get that three to four year
Contract I see like a castios type deal for him next year if he produces how we expect him to foure 6070 yeah I agree and um like you said I don’t think it’ll be with the Dodgers if he winds up getting to that point but if he goes you
Know one year with the Dodgers we’ve seen that a lot where guys go to La for one year get their careers you know back on track tasar is still really good so I don’t want to make it sound like he’s a total Reclamation but you know back to
The all-star level and then go get a bigger deal in free agency that’s a trend that we’ve seen and it might continue here with this guy um next here we’ve got Shoto imanaga ran his deadline right up to the end with his posting deadline that was set to expire on
Thursday wind up signing I believe the official went deal actually on Wednesday so right barely got it in before he would have had to return to Japan but winds up going to the Cubs only four year and um $53 million guaranteed not as much money as I think a lot of
People expected your talks maybe it would exceed $100 million guaranteed winds up only getting four years and 53 million I like this steal for the Cubs yeah I think this is an absolute steal honestly I was looking at this when we were prepping for this uh podcast I should have warned my Wrigleyville
Jersey uh just for this deal this is an amazing deal this is half of what you what he could have gotten honestly you look at the peripherals his RPMs on his on his stuff 300 points higher than the average for MLB lefties vo 1 and a half
Miles per hour higher than the average this guy he’s had a great tracker track record in Japan that’s a proven League nowadays everyone knows it’s almost it’s almost fair comparison between both the leagues 3.18 in his career had his best season last year of his career with a 28
In the central League over there in Japan this is a steal this is a mini mini yoshinobu Yamamoto for a six of the price and I think it’s it’s going to be really fun to watch him grow in that Cub system yeah I agree with you there I
Think the thing I’m a little bit concerned with and I’ve seen other people voice this too I don’t know if Wrigley is a great fit for him I’m a little bit afraid of how the Home Run ball could bite him like you mentioned he’s got that great analytically
Inclined fast ball and he really showed it in the World Baseball Classic pitching for team Japan he was one of their better arms as they went on to win the gold medal but um not a lot of VO even if the spin everything like that is
Great so I am a little bit afraid of how the Home Run ball might catch up to him Wrigley is not a great Park to pitch in for that but overall I mean even if you know the Home Run ball winds up being an issue he’s still going to provide some
Quality Innings and with the prices that we’ve seen happening um for starting pitching this off season this is a really good deal for the Cubs because worst case he’s going to eat a solid amount of innings and at four years 53 million guaranteed I mean that’s really
Just not a very high price to pay for that he’s also got a pretty unique contract structure that I’m going to try my best to break down here it is very complicated but basically four years 53 million is the guarantee after years two and after years three um Chicago Chico
Will have the option to extend the overall contract to a 5year $80 million deal if they decline that in either year two or year three then imaga will have the chance to opt out of the deal altogether and become a free agent at that point so this could be anything
From a 2-year deal a three-year deal a four-year deal or a 5-year deal it’s a unique structure but overall I think that the posting fee deadline must have played a part here imaga had a timer tick in and kind of just had to sign a deal that might not have been his best
Um financially but he still winds up with a pretty good chunk of change in Chicago I think this I think this deal is starting to speak to a bigger change that we’re starting to see in these contract negotiations key word flexibility I think on all fronts for a
Lot of these deals no matter what they are we got vesting options coming up that we’re going to talk about all the deferrals we’ve had coming out all these opt outs lot of stuff getting added in these deals that we did not see over the last couple of decades so it’s really
Interesting to see how these are going to keep expanding over these next couple offseasons maybe another another potential topic you could add into that CBA discussion is something like that going to be addressed what are these going to be any flexibility caps on these deals any things you can or can’t
Do they might change in the future yeah these contracts like you said getting more and more unique um with everyone that gets signed different things with vesting options and deferrals it’s every contact is different than the next and that’s something that’s becoming more evident with every single deal that gets
Signed um like you mentioned we’ll talk about investing option here Marcus strowman wound up signing with the Yankees two years 37 milli guaranteed another contract here where obviously strowman carries a lot of baggage there’s many differing opinions on Marcus strowman not only on the field
But off the field and he winds up only getting a two-year $37 million guarantee um for a third year he’ll have a vesting option um according to John Heyman that if he pitches a certain amount of innings in that second year it’ll opt in to a three-year deal but only a two-year
$37 million guarantee for Marcus strowman yeah honestly as you mentioned that Innings line it’s 140 a great prize picks line got to say last two years I P I believe it was 136 and 132 in the last two years he’s pitched hit that 140 mark four times previously in his career so a
Great line for the Yankees to set we’ll see if strowman hits it but overall man I I like strowman I really like strowman a lot I’m I’m one of the Believers in his Camp uh wish he would have got a little more money uh but you know you
Look at that second half he had had a 296 going into the second half had like nearly a five six year Ray and only about six starts really got really got shelled during the end of that year had some rib injuries had a hip issue he was trying to battle through unfortunate end
To his season but when this guy’s healthy I think he’s just a competitor gets the job done I like how he slots into that Yankees rotation they need some depth that they need an Innings eater which he really isn’t but I hope he can I hope he can hit that line I
Hope he’s going to have a really good season for the Yankees the Yankees needed rotation help for sure um we saw they were really heavily in on yoshin noi Yamamoto wanted him really bad wind up losing him to the Dodgers now they pivot Marcus strowman not quite on
Yamamoto’s level but still a guy that if you get him at his best like you mentioned in the first half of last year that’s a really really quality almost All-Star level pitcher when he’s at his best when he’s at his worst though like you mentioned in the second half it can
Be really bad so we’ll have to see what happens Marcus strowman not a guy who shies away from the bright lights he’ll have to be um continue being that way in the Bronx um but yeah we’ll have to see how that deal works out there with the
Yankees yeah a couple things go your way in that Yankees rotation Cortez comes back to form rhon has a good year hopefully strowman’s decent then you’re like wow you got four starters in this lineup maybe you get a little bit of a Clark Schmidt at the end like wow that’s
A top rotation in baseball potentially lot of variant though because lot of VAR all those guys could go the wrong way as well so interesting team to watch um they picked up Juan stto now that pitching side I think is the where all the eyes are I still wouldn’t be
Surprised if the Yankees go get go out and get another starter at some point here in this off season they’ve been connected to Josh haer too on the bullpen side of things so we’ll see if they might have some more money to spend um but even as it stands right now
That’s a rotation that if they just bet that they get the best side of everybody that still could be a pretty good team um next we’ve got just this morning Jordan Hicks signing with the Giants um four years $44 million pretty pretty big guarantee there more than I expected to
See out of hicks and it was a little bit more explained once I saw the Giants are going to try and run him out as a starting pitcher the Cardinals have exper experimented with that a couple different times in his career it hasn’t worked out either time um the thing that
I think is interesting with Hicks and his probability as a starter you know he’s got that High Velocity fastball everybody knows about the dude throws triple digits um he’s got a really nice sweeper as his main offs speed pitch he’s got a splitter that is a solid
Third offering I think that works the Arsenal part of it isn’t the concern I think the main part of it is his command I don’t know if he throws enough strikes especially with the fast ball to get deep enough in outings to be a consistent starting pitcher and that’s
Kind of what he’s run into when the Cardinals have tried to do it with him and then he’s wound up shifting back to the bullpen so we’ll see what happens here with the Giants I I think with this fouryear $44 million um deal you kind of
Have to hope that he sticks as a starter for that money to be worth it if not even in the back end of the rot or back end of the bullpen excuse me that’s a lot of money to be pay yeah it’s it’s a
Scary deal for me I’m not sure I like it too much they they can try and throw him out there as a starter you look at uh 2022 when he had eight starts multiple were one or two innings he had one of those eight where he actually reached
The five inning Plateau didn’t go beyond that so it’s it’s really concerning to throw this guy out as a starter he’s he’s going to have to bring that vo a tick down or two he’s had some injury concerns in the past I just I don’t know
If the arm is there to make it happen to go deep enough in ball games and it’s going to tax your Bullpen even more if you’re three or four starters going out there every fifth day and he’s only giving you three to four Innings of work
Yeah it seems like a bit of desperation kind of played into this one I think when I look at it the Giants have been involved with a lot of different names as is typical for them this offseason and they wind up with Jung honi on the batting side but on the pitching side
They haven’t really gotten too much so far they traded for Robbie Ray but on the free agent Market they struck out on yoshinobu Yamamoto they struck out on Sha and managa and now they try and go after Jordan Hicks um not a guy that I really expected to see slotting into a
Starting rotation and especially with teams in the division in the NL West like the Dodgers like the Padres that typically show a lot of patience at the plate um Jordan Hicks is going to have to throw strikes to those teams in order to be successful and I’m not totally
Sure that he’s going to be capable of doing that yeah just to to step take a step back and look at this Giants offseason as a whole it just feels like pressure moves all feel like pressure moves it feels like they’re getting pressured to do these moves because of
All this outside influence they’ve lost these big free agents in the past the Dodgers are steamrolling them with all their free free agent um Acquisitions I feel like the Giants are just under the microscope and they’re putting even more pressure on themselves and I think they’re making poor moves as a result of
It yeah it’s not something that I really expected to see from faran and that Giant’s front office they’ve typically been pretty calculated um trying to operate on a similar level to the Dodgers zi obviously was um a member of that Dodger front office for a long time
And I’ve seen a lot of similarities to how the two organizations operate but this offseason it seems like there’s been a little bit more aggressiveness from the Giants I think they sense that um they can’t sit back and continue to be too patient anymore um that fan base
Is unsettled and they really need something to turn around there in San Francisco to get back to being one of the Premier organizations in baseball yeah my last thought on that is you know if Michael lenzen can turn into a quality starter maybe Jordan Hicks can
Too let me might sprinkle of of Hope there so we’ll see what happens yeah I agree um couple more depth kind of moves we had Brent suder going to the Reds Luke Weaver going to the Yankees both Major League deals that are that’ll Shore up um some pitching depth for both
Squads um both those deals were reported by Robert Murray front suor will slot into that red Bullpen they’ve made a few nice pitching additions this off season um and then Luke Weaver we were just talking about that Yankees rotation where there’s a lot of question marks there not only in terms of performance
But also in terms of health weav cheap um 1 million or one year $2 million excuse me with a club option he can slide in there for the Yankees and fill in some Innings when they need it yeah could also be luke Weaver’s last chance
To prove himself as an M player had a real real rough season last year yeah he’s been bounced around for a few different organizations now was originally traded to the Dbacks in that Paul gold Schmid trade that sent uh Goldie to St Louis and now he heads to the Yankees trying to reestablish
Himself as a big leager like you said I think I was a little surprised to see him get a major leag deal this offseason um if he struggles this year winds up hitting for agency again if the Yankees decline that club option next year it
Might be more of a minor league deal so this is a big year for him to establish himself as a big leager for sure yeah you know look at the other deal I like the suor deal more because I think if you if this guy goes out there and gives
You five innings of three earned runs in every fifth day the Reds have a chance to win some games and I’m super high on the Reds this year so I’m I’m rooting for anybody that goes to Reds I’d love to see them do something in that Central Division yeah sud’s been a consistent
Guy um for many years now he’ll go out in that Bullpen maybe give you a spot start or two maybe fill a couple multi- ining relief rolls um and he he’ll just give you some quality Innings there’s not a lot of variant there you can know
What to expect out of you can Bank on a four five yeah I think so uh Zack pack also going to the angels this one’s a little bit older but I’m going to just throw the floor to you Garrett you’re the angel expert in the house let’s hear
What you have to say so I woke up this morning and I I was reading a tweet and someone was like we’re the angels are two injuries away from having to roll out pack and Suarez two out of every five days and that that made me sadly
Laugh um Polie hack I believe he had one good year and it’s been up and down since there been some character concerns you know the deeper uh caveat have you heard the Trevor Bower stuff connected to polick in this kayle’s heard about it yeah so personally I’m on the I’m on the
Trevor bar wave I’d love for him to come to the angels but apparently the Angels said no that’s what all the rumors are saying and so apparently the angels went out and interviewed Bower about Poli act to see if he’d be a right fit for the clubhouse that’s a super super
Interesting caveat kind of rude to bow that they said no to him because he tried to Dorn the Angels apparently allegedly all hypothetical and then went back and asked yeah there’s a lot of different things going around I know bow has said a lot of things in the past I
Don’t know what we cannot fully trust what we can’t but that’s definitely an interesting situation um the thing that I thought was interesting with this Angels move signing pack one year $1 million not a lot of risk there like you said he’s been pretty terrible with Cleveland wound up getting non- tendered
Um after falling off a cliff pretty much after he started his big league career pretty good then really started to struggle but the Angels wound up this was a move that I just thought it doesn’t look very calculated they just signed um Adam keric a veteran left-handed pitcher to a major league
Deal just earlier in the offseason it’s not like he’s been in the organization he was like 900k in November very beginning in the offseason they give him a 40 Man spot a major league deal and then you get like a month later maybe a month and a half and then they wound up
Having to outright keric off of the 40 Man r roster um in order to make this move now you’ve got $900,000 fully guaranteed and keric doesn’t even have a 40 million roster spot that’s just the kind of thing that signals to me that the angels are just kind of Flying Blind
Into the off season and you know 900 $900,000 not a huge deal but it just doesn’t sound very professional to me to see that kind of you know random move being made no I completely agree and personally I I I liked keric more than I like Pac Pac is Ker’s had some decent
Seasons as a reliever you know he’s one of those deals where like who knows maybe he comes out and actually gives you like a 35 erra over 40 50 Innings but you know angels are going to be the angels all I care about now is development of Zach Netto and Logan Oh
Hoppy and Nolan chaniel and some cool Bullpen arms we have or starters we’ll see what happens only hope for the mlb.com did did put out did you see the predictions post they made on Instagram they they put the uh their like predictions for the next 10 years of World Series unfortunately we will
Lose to the Rockies I believe in 2031 maybe 2033 2030 was it 2030 but considering that my personal Outlook had us in the 2040s range I’ll take a World Series appearance in 2030 go 15 years down the road wonder what that means for Ry Mareno plenty of different things could change there in
Anaheim they’ll need to because that that franchise needs a lot of turning around to do you’re telling me yeah um moving down the list here we’ve got a couple more um kind of depth moves before we get to a big trade to talk about that happened um Andrew niser to
The Rangers little backup catcher deal there one year $ 1.82 five million reported by John Heyman um the Rangers wind up losing their backup catcher in Mitch Garver pick up niser um who’s been with the Cardinals wind up getting non- tendered but now he heads to Texas solid
Little move there he’s got a minor league option remaining too so if they decide to sign send him to Triple A at some point they can um just a depth move thought I’d throw it out there might as well cover it yeah this guy’s playing about four games because it’s Jaheim
Season baby absolutely he’s their number number one 100% um we’ve also got another deal that happened yesterday um nauga nauki uawa excuse me for butchering that but he wound up signing with the Rays on a minor league deal his posting period was set to expire just a
Little bit after um sha imagas on Thursday and no deal was reported um for uawa sounded like he was just going to have to go back to Japan there was no um no Whispers that he had signed anywhere got a couple hours past when his deadline had actually hit and then the
News broke that he signed a minor league deal with the Tampa Bay Rays um USA was 29 low 90s vo on the fast ball didn’t strike out a lot of guys in Japan which I think kind of makes teams hesitate on how his game will translate over to the
Major leagues but hey I mean a 29y old who’s put up pretty solid numbers in Japan on a minor league deal especially going to a team like the Rays who you know will make the most out of him I think that this could be one that teams
Wind up looking back on some point you know middle of the 2024 season and say why didn’t we give that guy a fman roster spot we could have had him for nothing yeah you you just brought it up this just seems like Peak rais to me
Seems like they snuck in at the very last moment pluck this guy on it right when he was probably probably getting on the plane going back to Japan this is I think this I think this is fun I think all the peripherals say not going to participate in the Major League level
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Starts something like that I I think the ray will make the most out of him and you know I think whenever I see the ray scoop up a guy on a minor league deal or make a little like low profile trade anything like this it immediately makes
You Circle that guy’s name and say anything low profile with the raise is not low profile yeah we’ll come back to that one that’s kind of what the Rays make you do they’ve just got such a track record of turning guys that you don’t really see much in right now and
Then all of a sudden you look back like how did we not see that but only the r did so we’ll see what Happ happens there with usawa um but now I want to shift gears here before we head to the break we’ve got about seven minutes um the
Dodgers and cubs swung a really big trade yesterday at least for me who’s been following what the Dodgers were going to do with Michael Bush through this whole offseason um a few days ago when they the uh agreement with tasar Hernandez was announced the Dodgers had a full 40-man roster they weren’t going
To be able to make the move official until they did something um and then yesterday morning the news broke from one tobio um yans mon getting traded to the Cubs seemed like that was just going to be a pretty basic you know send yeny whether it’s cash or a player to be
Named later coming back just clear up to 40 Man spot easy right and then a few minutes later then it came out Michael Bush headed to Chicago too and Bush is a guy I’m definitely very high on his Bat I think he doesn’t have a place or
Didn’t have a place in Los Angeles the defense just doesn’t play and there isn’t really a spot in Dodger order for him but um the Cubs big pickup for them I think Bush he won the triaa PCL MVP last year he’ll head to Chicago looking to lock down that first base DH Third
Base somewhere in there he’ll find a lot of at bats um and I think the Cubs made a really good pickup here with Michael Bush I agree I saw what you tweeted um right when the news broke and one of my uh friends texted me immediately he’s
Like you you both basically said we would have wanted to see more of a Major League Ready Player which I I completely agree I thought you guys were going to get something a little better for Bush I mean we we’ll see what Ferris turns into seems like he could be a pretty decent
Prospect but uh you know looking at Bush what what do you think you could have gotten Major League level where where would you have wanted to address your team on the major league roster with a bush trade who would you have wanted pitching is what I was looking at
Whether it’s another starter um whether it’s a reliever I think as the last few days kind of developed and we were getting more and more I mean really once the tasar Hernandez news broke that was the writing on the wall Michael Bush was not going to be a Dodger I think that at
That point it seemed obvious that we going to have to move him because this guy simply he’s 26 just won the AAA MVP award in the the Pacific coast League he’s not a minor Leaguer anymore and he needed to be in the majors and there
Just wasn’t a spot for him in La so especially once they picked up Hernandez there wasn’t going to be any playing time and at that point I kind of shifted gears and I was looking at maybe trying and flip him for you know a Devin Williams Emanuel class maybe try and add
Him to a Dylan CE package something like that um I didn’t really expect them to send him off for nobody that especially two teenagers not even close to impacting the big league roster but have to say The more I’ve looked into this Jackson Ferris zaher hope two guys the
Dodgers got back um Ferris a 19-year-old who was drafted in the second round in 20122 Hope Was An 11th round pick last year for the Cubs but s signed for money um a slot bonus that was equivalent to a fifth round pick roughly um these two
Guys are both super super helium kind of arms well Ferris being an arm hope being an outfielder these two guys I think are going to be really really worth watching I think Ferris once he gets to La he’s got a big fast ball rides it into the upper 90s his slider really really
Really gross um and he’s got the starters Arsenal he really tracks with the rest of the Dodger system as a guy who if he can get to Los Angeles and he can throw strikes he could develop into a really really nice starting pitcher at the major league level if he can’t throw
Strikes then you wind up looking at you know reliever risk winding up transitioning to the bullpen at some point but he’s got the stuff either way to be a major leager so I I like that pickup a lot Jackson Ferris is a guy that could explode this next year Zahir
Hope um is another guy that is going to be really really worth watching he’s got great bat speed 70 grade Runner um super super fast in the Outfield um just tools is the guy you know the thing to talk about with Zer hope super super great
Tools and those are the guys that the Dodgers Target you know you look at James outman he was a football player in high school um some other guys in the system Kendall George was their first round pick last year the Dodgers have a trend you know go get the guys who have
The great athleticism and then turn him into baseball players and Zahir hope is another guy like that but yeah I mean I’m excited for this move Michael Bush is a guy that I’m really happy for um even though it’s not going to be as a Dodger he gets to go
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Been made around baseball the first the big one um Alex anthopoulos the Braves president of baseball operations the head of everything that they’ve been doing in Atlanta extended through the 2031 season a seven-year extension pretty aggressive for um that Braves ownership group to give anthopolos that type um of
Guarantee most Executives get three to fiveyear contracts um typically but the Braves feel good about what they’ve done with Alex anthopoulos I don’t think you can blame him for that and he winds up getting extended through the 2031 season hey I mean he put the current team together the current team’s extended
Through 2031 why not extend him to 2031 it seems like it’s a good deal all around I like it I like the aggressiveness he’s been making great moves throughout his tenure with the Braves I don’t see a reason why not to honestly yeah I agree I mean they’ve
Done so much winning there’s really no no reason not to do this I think the consensus you couldn’t find anyone to argue with you and you say that anthopolos is one of the best Executives in baseball so it’s good to see him get that type of guarantee seven years he’s
Locked down in Atlanta um we’ll see if that gives more teams the idea of giving um their best Executives longer extensions like that um I I I like it you know honestly when when you’ve got a guy who you feel comfortable with and you feel confident is building the best
Team that he can and especially when someone like anthopolos has the track record that he already does um of winning in Atlanta since he got there there’s really no reason not to in my mind because I mean especially with an executive like that it isn’t like a
Player where you know all of a sudden they could lose production or whatever with age or anything like that anthopolos should be anthopolos as long as he’s going in the business and um the Braves will try and keep him in Atlanta as long as that is yeah couldn’t agree
More with all those points um another really cool front office move the Marlins hiring Rachel bakov um as their director of Player Development uh that’s pretty cool to see she worked her way up through the Yankee system in the minor leagues coaching in these last few years and now she gets a
Job heading player or Player Development um with the Marlins the Marlins have made a few different moves um in their front office this offseason wind up letting go of Kim in but now they pick up Rachel Rachel bovc um as their director of Player Development yeah you
Know kind of flipping the script after that Kim ing move we saw earlier on in the offseason they get Rachel here did great stuff with the minor leagues on the Yankees side of things now she’s just working her way up the ladder now she’s in charge of all Player
Development for the Marlins she’s going to finders in the major here in a couple years yeah I agree that’s the trend that it seems to be on and it’s really good to see she’s done everything that she needs to do totally deserving of the
Role and she gets it so it’s nice to see um another one Heim Bloom uh taking an advisory role with the Cardinals he was the Red Sox president of baseball Ops for the last few years um one of his first big moves was trading m bets away
To the Dodgers and he’s made plenty of other moves there that have been somewhat controversial in Boston he wind up um leaving that organization with a pretty split um opinion on him from the fan base with some Red Sox fans really really believing in Heim Bloom’s vision
And other ones uh being excited to Usher him out of town but now he’s going to be in a sort of part-time advisory role with the Cardinals um I think that I like the way he built up that Red Sox farm system in his time there I think I
100% believe when we look back at that Mookie Betts deal that was not a good one but overall I think that he did a good job there with Boston and um somebody who has experience being pretty much the number one in an organization like Bloom is always a good pickup for
Another organization as an adviser yeah it’s almost really really controversial his his tenure with the Red Sox a lot of people really really split big Cass between those two ideologies on Heim Bloom uh you know seems like he’s got to take a little bit of a backseat build up
The resume a little bit more in an advisory role but you know he’s probably going to have another opportunity coming his way soon yeah I agree he’ll wind up with another um top job here at some point but take a year recovery you know do some advising with the Cardinals and
Then look towards next offseason and Beyond he’s still the young guy so plenty of years left to get back into a GM or president of baseball Ops role somewhere else I would expect that he’ll be here to stay in the baseball business and he’ll be back with another team at some point
Soon um so with that we had another big deadline yesterday um with the arbitration deadline yesterday was the final team or final day that teams could agree two contracts with arbitration eligible players and avoid having to go to those arbitration hearings um many big players throughout baseball wound up
Agreeing to Deals before the deadline hit um Juan SoDo wound up breaking the arbitration eligible record for the salary um that he’s going to make at $31 million that’s more than sh Otani made last year when he set the record um but we had some big players who didn’t wind
Up coming to agreements with their teams Vladimir Guerrero Jr is the biggest one that will be headed to an arbitration hearing um he’s looking for1 19.9 million million dollar is I believe what the report was and the JS were uh about $2 million off of that Lisa rise adulis
Garcia Jaz Chisum Taylor Ward some other big names that are going to be heading to arbitration hearings you know I look at this at this crop of names that we’ve put together here Bruce and it doesn’t surprise me that a lot of these names are on here for for a multitude of
Reasons maybe this player in the eyes of the organization slight over performance or underperformance on either side of the ball and definitely a lot of these guys some injury concerns maybe bad uh bad regular season better postseason maybe flipping the script on that you look at a guy like Alec bow in that
Sense lot of different lot of different ways that these could all go I could see some of these guys winning some of these guys losing I look at Taylor word for the Angels had a slow start really good really good the year before in 2022 slow
Start to 202 three and then he started to turn on the Jets then he got hit in the face and the season went over so you go into that meeting who do you side with there there’s a lot of different ways that could go yeah I think looking
At arbitration in this whole system it’s an interesting one because I think it’s an opportunity for teams to really sh up their relationships with players some organizations do a great job of that for instance the Dodgers wind up coming to agreements with every one of their arbitration eligible players and we’ve
Seen in the past how it can irk some guys I know last year I remember seeing Corbin Burns didn’t want end up coming to an agreement with the Brewers had to go to a hearing and then he was uh pretty upset about it heading into spring training I remember some
Interviews where he was uh making it pretty evident that he wasn’t happy with the Brewers because often it comes down to splitting hairs and pinching pennies over some of the best players in organizations and I think Vladimir Guero Jr is an example of that you know when
You look at a guy who’s one of the faces of your franchise and you’re willing to go to a hearing just to save $2 million potentially in paying him that’s the kind of thing that um defin Ely could rub players the wrong way and I I don’t
Especially blame them this is you know just one of the things that gets down to the the ground level of It’s Always a business first um but yeah some big names that are going to be going to arbitration um and you never know you have to watch all these players and see
Whether any kind of trade rumors Could Happen um the Marlins are potentially shopping Lis AR I saw a report on that today but all these guys as soon as they start to get to where they’re going to be making some more money there’s a certain crop of organizations around B
Their first instinct on that is not only to try and save as much money as they can and pay those players as little as they can but also then to try and move them so we’ll have to see what happens with this group of players heading to
Arbitration Bruce I want to play a quick little game with you let me know if you’d rule in favor of the player or the team we’re start with Vladimir Guerrero Jr Let’s Do It um do you have the figures in front of you of what they’re
Going to be asking don’t have the exact numbers if you’re correct about that 2 million different price point where do you think personally I’m going to go with the team yeah I think that I would have to rule of the team Guerrero hasn’t quite been exactly what his Prospect
Status a few years back projected him to be he’s still been a really quality major leager and so that’s where you kind of have to pump the brakes on all those kind of prospect rankings because a team will always take a player like Guerrero coming up through the minor
Leagues um I don’t know if he’s worth 20 million right now uh but yeah that’s an interesting one to see what happens there what do you got for Luis AR Lisa rise I I think that I wouldn’t be surprised if he winds up winning that hearing without seeing the exact numbers
In front me I I would just have to say rise was one of the best hitters in the major leagues last year really had his coming out party winning the batting title in the National League and um was foring with that 400 Mark for a good
Part in the beginning of the season so I wouldn’t be surprised if he winds up winning I’m going to keep it in the organization I think this is one of the tougher ones on the board we’re gonna go Jazz Chism Jr Jazz chism’s an interesting one for sure um I don’t
Think last year was the big leap up in production that he was hoping for I wouldn’t be surprised if that hearing winds up going to the team I’ll give you two more we’ll go with Jonathan India Jonathan India that’s a really interesting one to watch because this is
Another guy that’s been connected in trade rumors pretty often um India’s weird player to look at he’s going to wind up being a DH moving forward I think more than he can play infield one of the worst um defensive infielders in the major leagues and I think that’s
Something that could really hamper him in not only these hearings but also on the trade market he just can’t play a good second base and I think that might might wind up uh making the arbitration hearing rule with the c Reds and to close out the round we’ll end with
Taylor Ward of the Angels Taylor Ward another interesting one I think that I wouldn’t be surprised if it winds up going to him he had a really really great year last year before he wound up having that face injury like you mentioned and I think he deserves to get
Paid yeah that was a fun little exercise I appreciate that um next I think we’ll move on here got 15 minutes left in the show and there’s still plenty of rumors to tackle in the rest of free agency we’ll dive right into it Blake Snell um sounds like poor reports by John Heyman
And others is heavily in discussions with the Yankees sounds like that he had a 5year 50 million contract that Snell denied um this has been an interesting free agency to watch for Blake Snell um he’s Scott Boris client so he’s looking for the most amount of money that he can
Possibly get coming off his second career sa Young Award um I think that Blake Snell is probably aiming for $200 million and the question is whether any team will match that yeah I think that’s an excellent question I think one 50 for five really competitive offer apparently
The reports we wanted a little more money or another year on that deal so potentially that could put him in maybe the 180 range we’ll see maybe he doesn’t hit that 200 Mark but I think a really competitive offer and I think that that uh that money they gave strowman earlier
On Yankees are definitely still in the competition for this it’ll be interesting to see if they throw in that little extra bag haven’t heard a lot of other teams in the mix seem like the Angels might have been there a little bit but seems like those discussions have fizzled out haven’t heard anything
About that in a week or so so Snell bit of a tossup really the ankle Yankees the only ones in contention want to pay up that big money but Snell wants even more than that it’s a big question to see where he’ll go yeah um Giants and other
Team that have been pretty connected to Blake Snell throughout this process but with their signing um of Jordan Hicks today I think that you can probably assume that they’re not going to be in the Forefront of these negotiations anymore unless something changes but um you mentioned a kind of six-year $180
Million range for Blake Snell I think that’s where he winds up um it seems like teams are pretty hesitant to pay pay young caliber money you know keep it where he’ll L up with a $30 million-ish aav but I don’t think any teams are going to go over six years and that’ll
Kind of put him in that $180 million range I I don’t think the 200 is a Mark that he’ll wind up hitting but I mean you never know with Scott Boris as his agent you can never count anything out so we’ll have to see what develops there
With Blake now the Yankees definitely at the Forefront of his negotiations right now I would say yeah another free agent um Jordan Montgomery another southpaw on the market his Market’s been interesting to watch I don’t know if the Rangers are still looking to Pony up the amount of
Money that he’s gonna get I think right now especially with how Blake Snow’s Market has failed to develop like I think some people expected it to and Montgomery seems to be going pretty good um it’ll be interesting to see which one of these two guys winds up getting more
Money I would think it’ll be Blake snow but I wouldn’t totally count Out Montgomery winding up somewhere in the you know just below $200 million range there’s a lot of teams that are looking for a big impact Lefty and Montgomery definitely definitely fits that bill I I
Would personally be shocked if he hits if he hits 200 million I think he’s not worth as much as Snell Snell’s got more on his track record there is the big postseason Montgomery just had but your team’s got to get there first to even give him that opportunity I think he I
Feel like he’s more like a 120 maybe 150 on the very high end type deal I just saw a report that the Phillies are apparently out on Snell as well it seems like there almost might be a bit of a market collapse for these two guys yeah
There’s been a couple players that we’ve seen that both um Boris clients because Cody Bellinger is another player that I want to shift topics to now here um Bellinger like I said both Boris clients and both guys have had similar kind of markets where uh the main suitors have
Gone after other players at their positions the Giants going after Jung honi no longer really need Bellinger the Toronto Blue Jays brought back Kevin km no longer really need Cody Bellinger I think that the Cubs still makes sense for Bellinger but I don’t know for sure how much money they’re looking to spend
Um and yeah both guys Snell Bellinger it’s tough to really see exactly if there’s any team that’s really going to meet the price that Scott Boris is going to be looking for for both of those players yeah you know touching on Bellinger I personally really hope hope
He goes back to the Cubs it you know we talk about all these guys it almost seems like the lack of Market that’s happening it’s it’s really speaking to the bigger picture of this whole off season we had all those big dominoes fall with Yamamoto and Otani and then
Glasnow going to the Dodgers and Hernandez going to the Dodgers it it almost it it gives me a lot of Vibes if you look to the NBA of what we had with the Warriors when they picked up Kevin Durant back in 2016 2017 it seems like a
Lot of other teams they just gave up trying and now these markets are not developing for these players and a lot of them Boris clients that want real high money that can hinder your team from making any other additions if you really want to compete with the Dodgers
Or the Braves these teams at the very top end um of the MLB Spectrum it’s you know it’s almost a little concerning but you know it it worked out for the NBA so it’ll be to see how it plays out the good thing is I mean you always have to
Keep in mind with baseball there’s no guarantees about anything the Dodgers could win 115 games next year and then get swept in the division series again you just never know that’s the beauty of baseball and um but it is something interesting to watch for sure uh whether
Teams are taking their feet off the gas a little bit if they look at teams like the Dodgers teams like the Braves and say hey we might not really be World Series contenders at this point let’s let up on the spending a little bit um there’s no no salary floor no Sal salary
Cap in baseball so it’s really all up to the owners how much money they want to spend and that definitely seems to be something that could be a possibility where owners are looking at their teams and saying if we can’t really feel like we’re in a great spot to win the World
Series this year let’s not hand out contracts that are going to wind up hurting their pocketbooks but not really do a ton on the field um one thing I do think is important to keep in mind though both these guys Scott Boris clients typically take forever to sign
So even though it feels like with each day that goes by it might be a hold up on the market and that those two guys in Bellinger and Snell might have an even harder time in signing um it’s not the first time that a Boris client has
Waited super long to sign it might not even um be done until Midway into spring training for all we know but both those guys should still wind up with nine F nine figure contracts whether it winds up being 150 you know just shy of 200 million Bellinger I don’t think will get
200 million either but you never know both those guys if a team winds up feeling desperate for a starting pitch for a bat because the trade market is also something to watch here too especially on the starting pitching front you know there’s guys like Dylan CE maybe Shane Bieber that are still out
There that if a team strikes out on either one of those guys might pivot and say hey we’re just going to go pay what we have to to get Blake Snell to make sure we get a starter so there’s still a lot to develop with both these markets
And um we’ll have to see you know which teams wind up coming out and deciding that they really want to spend the chunk of change both those guys are going to get yeah I agree it’s surpris to see how this Market’s developed I thought after the the big fishes were were off the
Table in December that all the dominoes would just come crashing down you know to the B to the the Boris point you know they do take forever to sign but I’m a little worried about the amount of free agents usually there’s maybe one or two guys that are hold out to that mid
January late early February type period there’s a lot of talent still on the board which is is very interesting you don’t see that very often going this late into January I agree it’s felt like a weird Market this year where it seems like the same batch of teams are kind of
Connected to everybody and there’s been plenty of teams that I feel like we just haven’t heard much from on really anybody on any free agency on any trade front there’s been a lot of teams that are just kind of dormant even if they made a couple moves real quick early
Into the off season and then they’ve just kind of shut down and not really doing much not really involved on more players from here on out um on that front I wanted to talk about Dylan CE I just mentioned him a little bit ago here um with multiple teams all in the market
For starting pitching at this point cea’s Market not really developing how it sounds like the white socks and Chris gets expected it to um and now it sounds like some of the reports that are coming out the white sock might wind up holding on to this guy and hoping something happens at the
Trade deadline yeah I saw that they uh declined at Len Braves package included multiple top prospects that’s really interesting to see that they didn’t move ceas for a deal like that it’s it just feels like one big standoff you know this the whole league feels like it’s
Just one big standoff we’re with the mid level right right now nobody wants to pull the trigger on somebody because I feel like a lot of these guys you look at you know CE Snell Bellinger Montgomery I feel like they’re all on the same tier of player they’re not tier
One guys but they’re tier 2 highend tier three yeah I agree it it has a weird feel around baseball right now the ceas market is a great example of that um multiple teams all in on him we’ve seen him connected to the Red Sox the Yankees the Orioles the Dodgers might still be
Possibilities there you never know um yeah it just seems like that a lot of teams kind of sticking together at their prices the white socks not willing to budge on their asking price I do think that if the white sock wind up carrying SE into the season um in my opinion that
Would be a mistake his value is not ever going to get any higher than it is right now um and right now he’s only one year removed from being that 2022 Ace you know certified caliber pitcher um he struggled a little bit more last year still a lot of good peripherals and CE
Was still a quality arm but not quite fight the 2022 guy if he comes out in 2024 and struggles again in that first half of the season I wouldn’t be surprised if his trade market really crashes in terms of the value that the white socks could get back and there is
A big difference between two years of Team control and only a year and a half so I think the white socks really need to do everything they can to trade him right now and who knows they still could fully plan on that and all these comments about we might hold on to it
Might just be a leverage play but I I really think that the white socks are going to need to focus all of their attention here on Dylan CE this team’s not going to be competing um in these next two years while CE is under team control and they could get back an
Absolute hall for him if they do this the right way and I think the way to do it right is to trade him right now yeah I could agree you know it all could just be smoke screens but they they definitely got to make this deal now absolute best case scenario if they
Don’t make the trade now is Cease returns to form to his 2022 uh thing they trade him at the deadline when he’s got like a one0 r going into the All-Star break then I think maybe you can get the same type return as you can right now but do you
Really want to roll those dice exactly that’s a big maybe there that it’s certainly a possibility I I might even say that it’s not even an unlikely thing that CE could come out next year and be that Ace again but it’s still not a guarantee right now if you trade him you
Know exactly what you can get and his value won’t get any higher than it is right now even if he pitches great again that half a season of Team control does such a damage that the market might return back to what you could get right
Now so why not just trade him right now I think that’s what they have to focus that’s what they have to do um and it’s just going to be about which team finally makes an offer that is good enough for the white sock to pull the
Trigger on yeah and just to keep adding layers on this whole jam up we’ve got I know you’ve got some some feelings about Shane Bieber yeah um I’m not huge on Shane Bieber there was a report today um from Bleacher Report that said that the Guardians are very unlikely to wind up
Moving him this off season um Bieber is a guy that I look at he’s got one year of Team control left um any team that made a move for him would know what they’re getting and that he’ll you know fill Innings they’ll be decent enough Innings but I would be afraid um looking
At it from my own perspective that uh if you trade for Shane Bieber I think that you’re going to have to give up a package that is like trading for a potential Ace or at least you know a number two kind of starter and I’m not
So sure if Shane Bieber is that guy right now with only one year of Team control remaining um I I think that if I were a team I would sit back on him and I would wait until the deadline because if he comes out next year and all of a
Sudden has a Resurgence in velocity um his strikeout numbers jump back up to where they were in that 2020 sa young season something like that then you could go after him at the deadline and while you’d only get a half a season then at that point of Bieber um the
Price wouldn’t be too big for that rental kind of agreement and you’d know exactly that you’re getting the ace caliber guy what I’d be afraid of right now is that if you make a move for him and part with some some of the best prospects in your system and then he
Gets to your team and he’s throwing 90 M an hour and you know giving you production that’s equivalent to a number four starter I I don’t know if that’s really worth making the move for right now you know Bruce all this all this talk about starting pitchers just really
Reinforces my personal notion of I think that’s the scariest position in the MLB this the scariest position to buy into to get players for I can’t trust a I can’t trust a thing until I see it actually happening in front of me with these guys those pitchers I mean whether
It’s starters or relievers there seems to be so much variance nowadays where you can go from a guy being just excellent at one moment to just struggling at the next and that’s where I think you see the value of the real top guys like the Dylan cees like the
You know Tyler glasnow has really gone through the roof because there just aren’t that many of them anymore that you know that it’s a guarantee that you’re getting Ace level or closer level production from them there aren’t there just aren’t that many guys like that anymore and that’s where the value of
Those players has really really increased incre to a pretty big level yeah completely agree I think with the people we have left on the market I I trust these guys more than I don’t Shane B were probably at the bottom of that list but Snell Montgomery CE I trust
These guys more than I don’t I think they’re above that tier right below where I’d say that could be a hit or miss I wouldn’t want to buy into that into that area like a John Gray type deal yeah so I I think I think a lot of
These teams should still go for it but uh we we’ll see how it shakes out maybe something changes next week but not a lot of motion yeah um Josh hater’s another one there with his Market seemingly he’s asking for a record-breaking closer contract it doesn’t seem like any teams
Are really even considering giving him that of a contract north of $100 million I think haer winds up signing for something in the range of 7585 million somewhere in there but that’s another Market that just doesn’t seem to be moving too well um because I mean flat
Out on the relief pitching side of things teams would rather pick up whether it’s a starter that they convert to the bullpen whether it’s someone from their minor league system there’s a lot of ways to fill innings out of the bullpen and rely on some quality um
Endings and they’re they’re just easy to find where you’re not going to have to pay $100 million and Josh hater’s the best closer in the game but it’s still just an interesting thing to look at teams just don’t want to pay for Relief pitching anymore and haters Market is
Struggling because of that I completely agree Bruce I’d rather pay for three7 million a year guys than one $20 million player like exactly yeah well I think that’s going to do it here for our discussion in this episode thank you so much for joining us and make sure we’ll
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