Alright, we’ll say it…. Manchester City is running away with the league thanks to Kevin de Bruyne being back in the side. 20 minutes is all it took for him to score and assist in a 3-2 victory over Newcastle at the weekend. The lads dive in just how dominant this City side is in comparison to the rest of the league, Dobes and Hen square off with Hoover with the United v Tottenham game having finished 2-2 and we answer the tough question: “Is Erik ten Hag on the hot seat?” Lastly, we finish up with the lads ranking the Sauce Tier List in World Football, you’re not going to want to miss it! Tap in!
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Bootchie Mane: And we are live ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the Mecca of banter. Podcast, I am your host. This evening, buchy, main, and it is great to be here. We’ve got a phenomenal episode coming your way.
Bootchie Mane: We’ve got 4 of the fellas here tonight. We’re going to start off with some introduction. See how these chaps are doing. I’m going to start with the young kid, the young kid. Bootchie Mane: the pro clubs, the pro clubs. 101 goals and a hundred one games, kid. Hoov: He’s him.
Bootchie Mane: Andy Hoover. How are we doing, brother?
Hoov: II wish I could back those stats up, but we all know that that’s not the truth. But good! We haven’t played in a while. I don’t even know what my stats would be. But yeah, doing great great week to be a spurs. Fan, I’m just gonna throw that out there early. I’m I’m gonna have a good one today. I can guarantee you that so happy to be here
Henry Wynd: hanging in the banner, brother, what our trophy? Hoov: I’ll put it out there.
Bootchie Mane: Poof! It’s great to see you, Bro. And in back in that. This is a great episode for me, because I don’t have to say shit about my club. We didn’t have a game this weekend. and we don’t play till the 20 first. So I get to just kind of sit back and let you guys go at it.
Bootchie Mane: Yeah, you are a mediator. Today I’m a yeah. I am a peacemaker. I’m a Uniter. But Bootchie Mane: but let’s go over to the United Boys. We’re gonna start with Mister Mr. Connors and Aubrey Dabi has a new hairstyle. Look at this. Happy to be here. Good to see the folks.
Hoov: I know you guys are waiting for it be? The Phil did not play this weekend first. So no drop points, no gain points. connersendobry: United 2 2 draw. Happy to get it with who
Connersendobry: back back and forth game. I also need to let the Fans know sweating out football. That’s during this episode, since any reactions like the last one. That’s why Hoov: let’s
Bootchie Mane: it’s good to see you. Bro. Last but not least, the other United brother. We’ve got Henry wine here in the chat doing it live? How are we doing, sir? I’m doing well. It’s great week to be a Manchester United Fan. We also have a little bit of a break now.
Henry Wynd: you know, yesterday was a funny day. You know Manchester United, and I had fan Barcelona fan, Dallas cowboys fan I went oh, for 3 and wins yesterday it was. It was pretty pretty interesting, but excited to chat. The Manchester and I had Tottenham game here live with the lads happy to see everyone.
Bootchie Mane: It’s great to see you, too, brother. And I know this is this is a footy. Podcast but I just want to say something here. I was playing Xbox yesterday
Bootchie Mane: till my freaking eyes bled and doves was with me. I literally played for 13 h yesterday. Okay. While while I was playing with Dobby Bootchie Mane: right before the cowboys game started, I said, mark my words, packers are winning
Bootchie Mane: everybody. Everybody’s like, oh, you’re crazy, Bro, I said, I swear to God Jordan loves Ballin. They’re gonna win as dope. I called it, before the game start, and then 30 min later, we finish our our game of war zone, and he’s like Butch. Look at the score. It was 210,
Hoov: yeah, it’s not good. Yeah. You should have told me to bet on it because I didn’t hit a bet. All weekend do. All I’m saying is, it sounds like maybe bell checks go into the cowboys. We’ll see. We’ll see what happens in the off season, but I can’t wait for next next regular season. I’ll I’ll be on my high horse all regular season long.
Henry Wynd: and then I just manage expectations. When it gets to the post season. It’s a great time to support the Kansas City chiefs just like it is around this time every year. So literally on the wrong. Yeah, literally.
Henry Wynd: Hey, I just wanted to throw it out there that I am about 800,000 xp away from that magma Camo. So also, you know, we’re we, you mentioned pro clubs in the intro of this podcast I’ve been, I’ve been going back and forth with Akio Watts about pro clubs, and I’m about this close to setting up like our team against his team in pro club. So Akil, if you’re listening, brother, we want the smoke. We want it. We want all of it.
Henry Wynd: We haven’t played in like 4 months as a team. Yeah, we’re ready, brother, whenever you want it. Hoov: Good luck. Yeah, I will. I, Akio, just tell your goalie I will chip his ass left foot, right foot. I will chip his ass
Bootchie Mane: running down the sideline. Get in the box, get in the box alright. Here we go
Bootchie Mane: enough pro club stock. We are going to start the episode off with the first game of the weekend. Coincidentally it is none of our teams, but we have to talk about it for numerous reasons.
Bootchie Mane: Newcastle lost to Man City 3, 2, in the dying minutes, and the first thing I’m going to say is, I hate Newcastle Bra. Hate them. Bootchie Mane: I think collectively, we do. We dislike this team in this club. Right?
Hoov: Yeah. Sorry, for if you’re a Newcastle fan, listen into this. That’s just right group of lads to listen to if you’d like to tune. But Bootchie Mane: we don’t like Newcastle, and they came out flying. They did Bootchie Mane: 2 2 really good goals in the first a dog. Bro.
Hoov: Can we talk bang to his right? Henry Wynd: I was watching this game with Lucas, and and on that first goal genuinely, I don’t. I don’t think you tell Henry Wynd: the defenders to do anything different. I think that the defense played the, you know, played the the play well.
Henry Wynd: you don’t think they’re in the wrong place whatsoever. You just can’t really stop it in the second goal the same way. It’s like Gordon’s just in the right place right time, you know. Kyle Walker shows him one way and goes the other way and hits a banger like it’s kind of crazy, this how clinical they were in 2 back to back like quick succession goals. But the Esac goal man, I mean.
Henry Wynd: just like you said that one touch to the inside and just placing it. I it’s hard. It’s hard to stop as an offender as a keeper, but he’s still so young man like he is still what 24 years old, like he’s only gonna get better over the next 5 years.
Hoov: 100%. He’s sick, dude. He’s a dog. Hoov: We mentioned it, too, but we just don’t talk about Bernardo Silva. There’s just not enough conversation about the guy, and that’s maybe because he plays like 7 different positions. Sometimes he doesn’t play because city
Hoov: that his first, the first goal, he finished was insane, like every single one of those goals, was ridiculous. Hoov: Like in their own right.
Hoov: Each were just obscene finishes. And Bernardo Silas was no different. He he is so much fun to watch. And then, you know, going into obviously the turning point of the game. He was pulled for Kevin de Bruyna.
Hoov: which I was personally pissed about because I wanted to watch more of Bernardo. But you know it kind of shows the levels.
Hoov: Katyb is back. Nobody’s safe world fuck, that’s II sent it afterwards, and like I know, I was texting a few people. Some people thought I was joking like I genuinely think the leagues over by March pushing. I know you don’t want to hear that. connersendobry: But like then, like City, is city
Connersendobry: without Holland, currently. Still, they just gained the best midfielder in the world. Back they’re getting ready to bring the best goalscorer back connersendobry: you have Rodrigue now, who? I think he’s 50 games unbeaten when he starts.
Connersendobry: like the the city team, is like you heard I forget who it was. It was one of the United treble winners who who were talking about the fact that after you went to trouble like the hardest part is getting back up for it. It’s sometimes it takes a half a season. We’re kind of seeing that it’s taken half a season, but now they’re getting back scary. And just the fact that they came back like that, like all the pressure. What’s kind of interesting is like.
Connersendobry: it’s not really on city anymore. City. They’ve done that like they have their titles. So now it’s like, it’s up to Liverpool. It’s up to arsenal, to Villa to challenge. It’s like, yes, we’re all expecting city, but like same time they’ve done it. If they don’t win the title, it’s like, darn they’ve won it. What
Connersendobry: 3 of the last 4 years. And now I just think they’re gonna I think we’re they’re gonna get to that point now where it’s like
Connersendobry: Kevin de Bruyne said he didn’t even feel like he could play like 40 min consistently. He played 20 min, scored 2 goals at 1, 3, 2, like he’s just a game changer, ma’am, and II think
Henry Wynd: I think you know we’ve gotten so come accustomed to watching the brilliance of Manchester City. But you know, on Bernardo Silva’s goal. We’ve seen a lot of like back heel. Flick finishes like that, you know, crossing behind. But most of the time, like you, from a technicality standpoint, you watch the guy literally like flick their heel backwards. He literally just like kept his heel stationery and let the ball hit off of it as if it was like
Henry Wynd: a pool ball bouncing off of like the corner of the pool table like it was crazy. Just the redirection. And then Kevin de Bruyne is goal, ma’am.
Henry Wynd: gave them the hips, showed them to the far post and pass it into the near post. I mean, it’s just different gravy, but II think we see the brilliance of this Manchester City team. You look at the back 4.
Henry Wynd: All 4 of them can play interchangeably. Any one of them can play on the left, back, the right, back to center, back and do it at an extremely high level. And, believe or not. Henry Wynd: this like
Henry Wynd: hadn’t really occurred to me until this last game. I feel like when you look at that starting lineup, the only player that I feel like consistently stands out like a sore thumb on this team is Covid.
Henry Wynd: which is crazy, because when he was at Chelsea I felt like he was like the most technical player at Chelsea, and when he went to, you know, City, we were all like, of course, he would go there like he’s gonna be that guy. And he was terrible in in that game like he was misplacing passes. He was over running balls. He was dribbling into pressure. He’s just not the same
Henry Wynd: level of those man city players so like to the point Dobes of like being done by March, like we look at a guy like Covid, who we all would have put in like a very high category going to the city team. And he’s not up to that level. These guys are just built different. And
Henry Wynd: you know, they’re they’re also just gonna keep getting better. De Bruyne is. Gonna get to a point where he’s aging out. But he is the only one. Bro. They’re all so young. If they all stay at city they’re gonna be dangerous for a long time. We’re we’re and we mentioned it in the group Chat. But we’re approaching
Hoov: time to have the conversation Hoov: that Kdb. Might be that best ever midfielder in the Prem. Maybe he is.
Hoov: you know we we can. I don’t know stats. I don’t have side by side of him and Gerard, him and Lampard him, and you know II can’t give you the upfront argument for that right now. But I don’t know. You know how often I’ve seen
Hoov: those guys, or or maybe I did that. That’s why they were so special, because they were the ones doing it on their team respectively. He’s doing it at such a high clip like he. He is consistently carrying the best team in the world.
Hoov: That that takes re like to stand out like that on that team takes a legit unreal amount of skill and talent. Hoov: And we’ve seen him do it for forever. So II think we’re approaching that conversation. Not prepared to have it today, by any means. But you know, 2 years. 2 years.
Hoov: There’s gonna be, you know, we’re gonna have court on that. Bootchie Mane: I think he’s the only other midfielder in the history of the League that can even come
Bootchie Mane: was to the realm of Gerard. Yeah, he, I don’t think any like I don’t even think I don’t even think David Silva comes, comes, comes comes into that. You know what I’m saying. And David Silva was a was a genius. He was a great player in the League.
Bootchie Mane: but he he’s not even close to that. I’m curious when we hear these guys like, and I know most of us listen to like the Pre and post game like the Champions League. It’s like, I’d be curious. Cause I,
Connersendobry: A, obviously, we could debate this on the Podcast all we want between like us for, like, I think the real opinions when I listen to are those of, like the Henry’s, the the guys that get up there that have played with and against. connersendobry: like these types of layers. And so like.
Connersendobry: I thought it’d be interesting when cause that conversation is gonna come. And I feel like that, that conversation typically comes towards the end of players careers rather than during, because you have the opportunity to look back so as he sort of wins his way out, like, I’m really curious to hear, just like.
Connersendobry: you know, your Rooney takes your guys like that who have played with the past era and also been able to watch the current era, because obviously, like. we can sit here and we could talk about the Gerard schools. And like all these, it’s like.
Hoov: let’s be real. I was 7, 8 years old, prime, and then, like he did come back, and when a title. But even then it’s like, I kind of know Kevin Bryant is the best midfield standout point of view to that point. Go ahead. Hoov: No, it last just one other kid.
Hoov: Who the hell is Oscar Bob? It wasn’t gonna happen without Kevin de Bruyne
Hoov: he had so much left to do. He had so much left to do like, and it had to be the cleanest 3 touches you’ve ever seen, and it was the cleanest 3 touches I’ve ever seen brings it down onto his left foot. Shift right foot rolled it past like that
Hoov: I was. I was sitting on my couch by myself Hoov: like oh, looked like an idiot that was disgusting. Bootchie Mane: nasty. Bro. Henry Wynd: 20 years old. Norwegian Norway’s on the come up can’t qualify for a World Cup. But, man, they’re on the come up some young dogs, that’s for sure.
Bootchie Mane: No, it was a fun game, though, besides the fact that Anthony Gordon scored, I can’t stand that blood. Hoov: One more shout out to the resident
Hoov: Mecca city fan and Jacob Krupp, who apparently missed a classic, slept through the entire thing. So just quick! Shout out to my to my good buddy, alright, Buddy.
Bootchie Mane: you’ll be able to watch the games. So city 3, 2 over Newcastle City now jumps to second place 2 points behind Liverpool. Newcastle drops to Tenth. 1 point behind Chelsea, or 2 points behind Chelsea. Do you think they get rid of Eddie Howe?
Hoov: bad injury, Bug, for I get that. But at the same time, like. You’re the wealthiest club in the world like you have all this money, and I know that financial fair play is
Hoov: well. Their their money is endless. The the free transfer windows, and they had to build out of being a championship team. So what he did with that already, I think, would be an extremely reactionary sacking. Henry Wynd: Yeah. And they’re out of Europe. Their intense
Henry Wynd: I don’t know. III think II don’t think that it’s the craziest shout that if they don’t get into top to top 4 by the end of the season he might be gone at the end of the year, and like, hey? Like, Thank you so much for all that you’ve done and like this is a a results. Business like you gotta be there got knocked out of Europe, and you’re not in the top 4.
Connersendobry: I think they lose Dan Ashworth. Henry Wynd: I would be a gracious recipient of such a man, such a man with such a brain I’d be gracious! I think it is funny. I don’t know if you guys have seen it, you guys
Connersendobry: after Newcastle they tweeted when when they beat us and they tweeted. There’s only one united or something like that. I’m pretty sure their record is like 10 games like 8 8 losses in one tie, or something. Henry Wynd: only one united Bootchie Mane: in the top half, I guess.
Bootchie Mane: Still, Bro, like connersendobry: I just want to see Newcastle keep climbing down that table makes me a happy chat, you know, so it’s crazy. Still, I still don’t want to play Newcastle.
Bootchie Mane: It is. Bra, yeah. Also, we’ve kind of like talked shit on, because, like I hate him as well. But Anthony Gordon’s taking his game to the next level this year. Last year he was such a bitch like he. The game was too big for him last year, and after the the euros man he has just been on fire this season he looks like a completely different player. I just hate him so much. He scored that goal and the way he’s like looking into the crowd. I’m like, man I would hate
Henry Wynd: with a bottle if I could. It just like it’s just like, not so not good. But yeah. Also, Sven Botman is he’s just a tank back there. He’s unbelievable. He’s awesome. Henry Wynd: He’s a beast. Love a good center back. Bootchie Mane: Yes, sir, yes, we do. Yes, we do.
Bootchie Mane: Moving on here. We’ve got the game of the weekend Manchester, United Tottenham Hotspur, with a do do draw. We had played the game at old Trafford. Lots of shit to talk about here I get to be just a freaking bystander, and I get to just relax.
Bootchie Mane: And and we’re gonna let who have his moment first, since there’s one of him and 2 of you. We’re gonna let who’ve go first here and then we’ve got. We’ve got the great Connors and doberry spin zone coming up right after that I think this, I think we may have all kind of feel the same about this
Hoov: first off Hoov: appointed old Trafford in my spurs. Fandom is a huge point just in general, and the lack of results that we’ve been able to get from United away. Hoov: you you! You take that and run a hundred percent 10 out of 10 times. Hoov: I think you know.
Hoov: And it’s the same for both. Obviously, we 2 of the teams that have the most injuries in the League. Hoov: We can go up and down that list of people that we’re missing. I think, if do, Jane Kulosevsky’s on the pitch for Ryan Johnson, or playing in the 10 for Oliver Skip
Hoov: think spurs win the game. I think they were just lacking the creativity, and a little bit of an engine upfront to be creative. But with the 2 teams that were fielded Hoov: I was happy with the performance.
Hoov: and it. It’s the same that we’ve always seen that we’ve seen this year from spurs. And it’s you know you’re gonna have possession. You’re gonna be open at the back. Those you know, those outside corners doves mentioned right before the game even started that
Hoov: he thinks Rashford is gonna score. He loves the High line. That was exactly what happened. He got. He got the space behind Pedro Poro on a turnover, you know. Early in the or yeah, early in the first, and that was the the result of the 2 goals was just a ball behind Pedro Poro to Rashford.
Hoov: and 2 quick breaks out. And you know, after the first half, I don’t think I saw a ton of that. I thought spurs dominated possession well enough
Hoov: to keep the game away from united, but they also didn’t really take it to him. After the first, after the first goal of the second half, which you know I love. I love Rodrigo Benton. Curse so much, and I cannot. I cannot stress that. I think he is so good, and I think he’s playing at 60% right now, he technically wasn’t supposed to be fit enough for the game.
Hoov: You know, which is basically like half the team. I guess they everyone have the flu or something. It’s like dek or deck. You didn’t play
Hoov: see him finish. That goal was awesome, and I also rate may know. But he got caught sleeping. He was absolutely No Man’s Land between 2 players. Quick!
Hoov: Yeah, on that goal, I think if that’s anybody else but Johnny Evans, like there’s at least a foot in there like Evans has to do. I think that was a terrible defensive play by Evans. It was. It was not Johnny Evans’s finest moment, but I thought the same thing on on Hoylands call to like Romero was in position. That’s exactly where I want him to be, and he makes that block 9 times out of 10. He just didn’t even get in front of it, and it was a hell to finish. So like, you know. No, no
Hoov: just credit to that. But Hoov: 2 defensive breakdowns, you know. One whipped ball from Pedro Poro, and a nice finish from Richie. Hoov: I thought he had a great game as a lone 9 in a holdup role, with no one creative underneath him.
Hoov: You know he’s got a lot more to him when he doesn’t have to do that as much, you know matters, or pretty much anyone other than Oliver Skip playing the 10. I think we’re gonna see Richie be doing more dynamic, but for what he had to do? I thought he did it well.
Hoov: Give us the thoughts on the debut, brother
Hoov: Timo Timo. I mean he did everything that we he thought that I think he was gonna do like I didn’t know that he’s only played 17 min of football in the last 2 months. That was news to me. I kinda knew that he wasn’t playing a ton at Leipzig, but
Hoov: I didn’t know he was like coming in cold. So for him to start and get in good positions after training with the team for like 2 days, 3 days
Hoov: I was happy with, you know. Thought he did everything he could have done. He’s not gonna finish that, you know, inside, you know. Cut it to the right. Really good spots, execution and shit. Just wasn’t there Bootchie Mane: team all got more gold contributions than Anthony Brad? How many does he have?
Bootchie Mane: Timo got an assist.
Henry Wynd: The thing is, though, is like he’s gonna be great for spurs. He just is like, like, I would you know the the second attempt that he had where he found it all the way on the left hand side, goes in and takes that like left footed shot across the face of the goal. One of those is gonna land in the next month, whenever Sonny’s out like he, he’s gonna find that space. But the thing is, though, is like.
Henry Wynd: like think about it. So he had 2 that I can remember really clear cut chances from just staying high on that left hand side and being the outlet like it wasn’t like he, you know, he did a bunch of intricate stuff. He was just the outlet and like you, said Sonny, he gets that chance. He’s gonna bury that. But, like
Henry Wynd: Werner’s gonna get in those spots, he’s gonna have all of that game time over the next next month, when Sonny’s out. He’s going to find those goals, and it’s gonna be really good for you all like II before he played a game when he like, made the move. We all said that he’s gonna slot seamlessly into spurs his lineup, and that’s exactly what we saw. He just needs to be more clinical, like Tim O’s gonna team. Oh, like we knew it was coming at least once, but I mean
Hoov: that first shot he took. But II laughed so hard in my girlfriend’s apartment. I was sat there, and I was like, you know, he was getting into a good position. I was, you know. I was, you know, excited kinda like. Alright. Go on, Timo, and
Hoov: he cuts in. I’m like, Oh, I’m not ready for this, and he does exactly what I thought he was, gonna do I? Howled. Bro, that was funny.
Hoov: But I think you’re 100% right. There’s no there’s no reason to me that he’s not gonna fill that role really well. And with time, obviously some more clinical finishing will come, I would assume. But it’s well I’m not. I’m not expecting 15 goals out of the guy, you know, I
Hoov: I’m hoping he builds the play like he did really. Well, like first off Hoov: I’m gonna go back to how good Qt. Or marrow is. Hoov: He’s disgusting, and I think I’m loving him more and more
Hoov: on an offensive side, like his. His passing range and ability to pick a pass out is is Hoov: ridiculous. He? He cuts lines
Hoov: oh, easily with his, you know, direct passing, and that was the that was the reason for the goal. It went straight into skip, skip. All you had to do is turn using, you know, 20 yards of open space took the line teamos, making the run teamos going in.
Hoov: And you know, Benson Kurz just running in as the the loan 8 behind like it, was a really really beautifully constructed goal, and it was 4 passes. So I I’m excited for his direct nature to give us that. But dude Cutie Romero, he can ping a ball, I’m telling you.
Henry Wynd: II picked up Romero on football manager 24. He’s been hell of assigning for Manchester, United in the year 2025. He’s been great. connersendobry: I think, to me when you, when you look at this game like from a Tottenham perspective, I think the 2 keys
Connersendobry: are. You have to compliment the Wingbacks, because Pedro Portal up and down Destiny Adogi, who go not to, did did a little bit here and there. Same thing with Rashford and Rashford, actually had one of his better games, but like other than the counter, which.
Connersendobry: so that difficult for wingbacks to to deal with, as it is just with the High Line. They play like the Doge in portal, were fantastic, like other than that from a from a Titan pro perspective. I texted this during the game. I think the only time that I was like really, really nervous that Tottenham was gonna score was corners like every single time that he whips that ball in like we’ve seen how many times I don’t know. This is to be debated. If or not, I should get that, or if we shouldn’t get that. But like
Connersendobry: it’s not even just the fact that they scored. It’s like we’ve seen the corner be an issue with like goalkeepers, not just Onana with fucking daja. So it’s I’m just sick of seeing it. It’s like every team of world is. Gonna have a play that can whip the fucking ball in and put it somewhere. It’s gonna be dangerous. It’s like I personally think he should have came out and punched that regardless. It’s a fantastic finish. By Richie.
I mean, you have. You have to give credit to Tottenham for capitalizing
Connersendobry: on 2 chances? I actually didn’t. I text, you guys, I didn’t see the second goal live. I was literally taking a shit. Heard it downstairs. I think the most frustrating part that comes from watching United’s. What we found this year is like we score early
Connersendobry: great break on the counter. Fantastic ball from Bruno over the top. Rashford does his little thing, kind of bounces around. Holy takes his chance strikers finished goal.
Connersendobry: And it’s like what we’ve seen for united is we? We have these mental lapses where it’s like, whether it be from half time, or whether it be right after we score. For whatever reason it is, we just fucking switch off. It’s like we can’t hold the lead for more than 2030 min, and like close out of game, it’s like we’re going into halftime
Connersendobry: up a goal. And it’s like instantly, like as quick as I could take a shit. We’re already down where it’s already tied to 2, connersendobry: and it’s like we. That’s the frustration to me, and I think the biggest concern coming out of this game is the same thing that I’ve had
Connersendobry: all season. It’s you never know what you’re going to get and who you’re going to get it from.
Connersendobry: It’s like, you never know what you’re gonna get from Rashford. You never know what Bruno Fernandez you’re gonna get. You never know what Garnach or you’re gonna get. I guess Garnacha is probably the most consistent. But it’s like this team doesn’t necessarily have an identity. And it’s because
Connersendobry: we have so many different players that are different.
Connersendobry: It’s like you can’t play the same style when you have a Johnny Evans as when you play with Alicia. It’s like 60 third minute, and all of a sudden our line is posted at half field line. Is it half field? Starting defensively. Johnny Evans is in the game. Our line is starting 10 yards outside of our own 18.
Connersendobry: It’s like, so there’s 2 different ways we’re trying to play. And then you have an in the game who ghosted? II don’t remember a single. I don’t remember a single thing that he did from the entire game. He’s a possession based player that likes to get the ball. Keep the ball past the ball.
Connersendobry: and then you sub them out from a common A, who could really hit a 5 yard pass. It’s like, so we we have all of this like there’s no cohesion, and what we’re trying to do, and it’s like you’ve seen the 10 Hag Iax teams, who in his time at Iac, scored over 530 goals defensively, were sound play. This, keep the ball past the ball. Tiki Tacus type, type football.
Connersendobry: It’s like, I don’t know what we’re going. We’re trying to do. It’s like, I wasn’t necessarily nervous when time had a lot of possession, but then we got the ball
Connersendobry: like we should ourselves half the time. It’s like we had center backs that are passing the ball to directly the other team. We’re passing the ball out of bounds. It’s like, that’s the frustration. It’s like we scored. And we’re in the game because of 2 good moments of brilliance. It’s like pullin to touch. Bang like Rashford finally stepped up, scored a goal that he should score. But the main concern is like.
Connersendobry: and this isn’t the shit on Tottenham, but like, I think, with our squad, that we had connersendobry: like, we should have beat that title team at home.
Connersendobry: Not that we should out possess them, but we should have had more possession than we did during that game. I texted some those they had over 290 more passes than we did connersendobry: at home at old track like that’s concerning to me. It’s
Connersendobry: you know. I don’t necessarily know if it’s 10 hag, or if it’s the players that we have, and they just can’t fucking do it. But the concern to me is that like we don’t play for 2 weeks when we play wolves in 2 weeks. I don’t know what we’re gonna try to do.
Connersendobry: Are we gonna sit there? We gonna try to counter. I don’t know what the fuck to expect.
Hoov: and I think that to me is more concerning than that. The other thing we have is that we don’t have players from top to bottom. They can all play in the same type of team. We never have a fucking clue. What to expect. I here’s here’s my argument with that. And this is why it is on 10 hag, because needed to dispers like they just went through this ridiculous period of time with Ben Davies and Emerson were out playing center backs. But you knew how they were gonna play. They had a a and he’s mentioned it in post game conferences like
Hoov: they had players out of position playing roles that they don’t normally play, and that identity is still there. 100. You know what you’re gonna get, whether that’s wolves, whether that’s Everton, whether that’s united away. Yes, your question. connersendobry: Angela Vandevin. Hoov: Yeah. Hell, yeah, he did right because he fits his style.
Connersendobry: Ted Johnny Evans Hoov: did 10 hag. One Eric Dyer er dot 10 hag fuck, though I know one sec. Werner.
Connersendobry: because team a Warner can fit in the specific style that you all are trying to play team. A warner could hit on the counter will do a job which is exactly what’s asked of a left winger. 10 Hag wanted to sell him a comedy for 35 million in the summer.
Connersendobry: because the board and the people the fucking are ******* and don’t part of my language are idiots and don’t sell them. It’s like he’s stuck with. Instead of taking Ericsson out. He’s gotta put in Scott Mcconnell, who can’t keep the ball
Connersendobry: cause there’s another option. So it’s like, How do you want to play a high line and keep possession when in reality you’re playing a 35 year old, Johnny Evans as a center back.
Connersendobry: who you want to keep possession with Onana. You want to play that way. But how are you supposed to do it. Hoov: It’s like at some point.
Hoov: at some point. Yeah, no, I think you’re right. I don’t think I don’t think either Team Tottenham or United have the have the fit, like players that they’ve got up top like top to bottom, that they want in their system to the to the where, and just like Yup, this is who I want every week. This is why I want to play. And you guys are the same way. But it’s been such a long time since you’ve had anything remotely close to being like Yup. This is how I know that we want to play. There’s been no cohesion at 5 months. Last year
Hoov: we went on, a 30 game on beaten streak at home, but we were fully. Hoov: We don’t have right, but the differences is, Tottenham is in a 10 times better place right now. The Manchester United is from top to bottom.
Connersendobry: top to bottom, top to bottom. Roster. Wise Tottenham isn’t so much of a better place than we are even going out and getting radu like that’s a guy that can fill in and knows how to play a position.
Connersendobry: It’s like, that’s where our issue is. Right now. It’s like based off of the personnel that is available. We have to sort of switch and play what we want to play. And I also think one of the biggest concerning things to me. And it’s like Henry said it. Everything that is that we create runs through Bruno. But the one thing that Bruno struggles with is that in games against Tottenham we’re Tottenham, have 62% possession. They’re keeping the ball pinging the ball. The ball gets played into Bruno. Fernandez
Connersendobry: Rashford might be in, but some point you have to put your foot on the ball and say, let’s try to take a hold of the game ourselves. I think that’s where there’s no cohesion between. It’s like Bruno wants to play one way right now. 10 high potentially wants to keep the ball, or maybe he’s letting Tottenham keep the ball. But that’s the thing is with United. I watch this come out, and I don’t know the ta like I don’t know the tactics. People are saying that 10 had got it right on Saturday. It’s like
Connersendobry: maybe he did, because we tied the game. But like we had no identity.
Connersendobry: And so that’s my my main concern is it’s like literally 10 hags. Job is his job is resting on Assandra, Martinez, Casimiro, and Mason Mount instantly, being able to come in this team and win some games like. That’s what his job is. That’s what his job is revolving on, because right now, with what we’re playing in.
Connersendobry: I’m a Tom, and A, and even an Ericsson who Erickson Will Erickson will murder it against a Nottingham forest or Sheffield united, or when you can keep the ball and pass the ball. But it’s like connersendobry: when these guys get back. If this continues
Connersendobry: like, there’s no saving as much as I don’t want him to go. But if Casimir is healthy and leeches healthy, mounts healthy, and all sudden we got our guys back, and this still continues, there’s no saving his ass. Henry Wynd: True.
Hoov: I think the the commentary at the end. I listen to all the the con, the interviews, and you know everything that they said at the end. And Hoov: Graham, whoever that guy is. And was it Peter Drury on the call. Hoov: Yeah. Who? Who? Yeah? They they pointed out that.
Hoov: And and it probably fits into how you said that there’s no idea. And and everyone wants to do something different. But your Guises press Hoov: was labored. It was like all the dirty work that you had to do to cover the spaces and recover. The ball
Hoov: was not cohesive, was not. It wasn’t quick enough. Hoov: There were moments where it looked good
Hoov: first played through it. There were moments that spurs just cooty. Romero just held the ball in the center line for a second, waited for some movement on the outside, you know, and had 30 s to make a pass like there. There was never like a a pick your moment to move and pick your moment to press the ball, or, you know, start with Rashford and swing everyone else up there. It was like Hoylands going shit.
Connersendobry: The first press is always solid to me. It’s the fact. When you play a Christian Ericsson. It’s like Bruno will just go, because that’s just him. He’s an athlete. He’s an athlete. He’s a his, a good worker. We’ll just go, but it said, second, third line towards like, you’ll see Romero just play a ball through 2 lines.
Connersendobry: It’s because Ericsson just does. It doesn’t have the athletic ability to like, push up and get in the right spot the right time. It’s like Guy, like Romero or Van Devin, who can play those like who can pick those passes between 2 lines. It’s like you’re gonna get picked apart. Mccoma is the same way. It’s like he is athletic. But at the same time he sometimes it’s like he’s running on the chick with his head cut off.
Connersendobry: He’s just running to run, because he thinks he needs to run hard and do things rather than having a purpose. And I think that’s why we miss a cast mirror so much, because it’s not just that. But it’s the experience to know that like when he should go on when he should not go.
Connersendobry: But that’s kind of what we’re missing, and it’s like, and then may new half the time gets caught in sort of these 2 ones, because it’s it’s Erickson and Bruno pushed up too high, and you leave it an 18 year old to sit there and defend the back. It’s like there’s no balance in the way we’re doing anything. So the press is a great point. Who United isn’t the only team in the entire world that has someone like Christian Ericsson.
Henry Wynd: You know it. The first person that came to mind was like real Madrid, and having Tony Cruz like he can’t cover the ground that you know too many can or came of being a can or anything like that. Henry Wynd: The difference is.
Henry Wynd: everyone else on the team makes up for that
Henry Wynd: And when you look at Manchester United, I think your your call out of you know we’re relying on 3 healthy players to save 10 hogs job. It’s true. Your job as a coach is to get the best out of your players.
Henry Wynd: And get the strategy right. And that’s you know who to your point. I get that like, you know the fact that it’s January and we can’t identify how Manchester United are gonna play. We said this exact same thing about about Potter’s Chelsea last year that, like you don’t know what you’re gonna get. And like we were so critical of Potter and granted like 10 hogs, getting like better results than Potter did. So like, you know, we’ll throw that out there, but, like II think the big thing
Henry Wynd: that we probably will never know fully. Is a little bit of what Dobes was saying of like 10 hag came out and said, Hey, these are the 4 guys that I want out of the club Henry Wynd: in the summer at least 4. It could have been more and
Henry Wynd: and all of them are still here, all of them, you know. All of them are here so like when you have Erics in here, and, like 10 hog, did bring in Ericsson on free for what it’s worth. But he did bring in Ericsson.
Henry Wynd: like, you know, you haven’t dominate who he didn’t want. You know Johnny Evans, who was on a free, which was literally like a last ditch.
Henry Wynd: you know, signing he had a trial to stay fit inside Evans, until the season was already started. Yeah. And and like, you don’t do trials for veteran players like you don’t do that you didn’t want Mcguire, and Mcguire’s come in and done a job. But like there’s all these guys that he didn’t want. And so at some point you do have to look at the cohesive unit that is Manchester united and say, something’s broken. And now with Anyos and Sir Jim hopefully.
Henry Wynd: like by the end of the by the end of the season I’d like to see some bit of like a strategy. You know what what’s kind of gone under the radar here, and not to like deflect attention from Manchester United. But, like Daniel Levy’s like doing his job, like, you know, he’s actually making signings for Tottenham, and we still can’t stand the guy. But I mean, you look at this transfer window or the last 2 transfer windows. Let’s say summer in January, and you’re like kinda smashed it.
Henry Wynd: you know. You look at the signings that you all brought in. That’s unbelievable. That’s unreal. We can’t say the same thing, and we’ve spent a lot of money. So like fair, fair, fair play there. But it’s been
Henry Wynd: not the people that Tan Hongget has wanted. It’s been like a completely disjointed process. And so my my hope is that, like you know, let’s say, March comes around and like 10 hogs still in the in, in the job and surge in and Inios have done what they’ve need to do from like an audit standpoint, and they kind of start making a plan for what January is, gonna or excuse me, what the summer is gonna look like, and where I am right now is like, I look at that squad, and there’s like probably 3 guys on that squad.
Henry Wynd: 4. Henry Wynd: I’ll say 4 4 guys that to me are untouchable, like they’re not going anywhere. They’re staying here. Everyone else on that squad everyone I’m like Henry Wynd: we could be without him. Cause. I just have this feeling that, like
Henry Wynd: the players, kind of dictate how results go. The the press not being cohesive, like, I feel like some players literally turn up. And they’re just like, Yeah, I’m just not.
Henry Wynd: Don’t really feel it today. So I’m not gonna put in that effort that would never fly at a real Madrid. It would never fly at city but it’s flying at Manchester, United super frustrating to watch. So I’m hopeful that throughout the rest of the season we can get some good results with these 3 guys coming back. But II wanna see some really big overhauled change in in the summer, and I know that’s a huge ask from Manchester, United and still having a
Henry Wynd: the Glazer backed Manchester United. But I look at that lineup that we put out, and there’s glaring holes in it. Guys that just don’t need to be on the field and not saying that like a midfield of Skip Hoyberg and Benton Curr is like better. I get that. But like, yeah, but like there. There’s just like there’s holes everywhere. Bro, and so
Henry Wynd: III kind of am like somewhere in the middle of doves and Hoover on this of like at some point like I’m not 10 hog out at all. I still think he’s the right guy for the job, but like, I just wish I could have like one itty, bitty glimpse behind the curtain of like what the fuck is going on in the changing room on the tactic sheets, where like guys just aren’t doing.
Connersendobry: They’re shit like I just. I cannot wrap my head around. It doesn’t make any sense. What’s crazy is he was a win against Tottenham yesterday from having the highest win percentage of any mention ever.
Connersendobry: I think the last point that I have to say it’s a little interesting is I don’t know if you guys caught this it went on. Throughout the entire game.
Connersendobry: The Manchester United Fans kept sitting there chanting, Mason Greenwood. He’s one of our own, so the end throughout the entire game. So I don’t know what that means. But dang! I didn’t hear that at all. Hoov: December.
Hoov: I only had sparse fans. I didn’t hear any other chance, but you know, maybe that was just me who knows? Pretty quiet in there. Pretty quiet.
Bootchie Mane: Well, ladies and gentlemen, that was a great analysis from the boys on that match. Couple of rants here and there. We love it. Little bit of banter before we move on here to the main segment of the night, which is, gonna take up a good chunk of time, and we are excited for it.
Bootchie Mane: Quick shout-out to Vinnie, who scored a hat trick real Madrid Bootchie Mane: with a l classic O win over Barcelona in the super cup. Final 4 1. Then he had a first half hat trick. followed by a mauling
Bootchie Mane: in Saudi Arabia from brown Madrid. That was a mauling. I don’t know what’s going on with shabby Barcelona, but they look like a shadow of themselves. Henry Wynd: I mean, compared to a year ago. I can I Henry Wynd: really quickly bar Bar Barcelona?
Henry Wynd: with first off with layman. Dowsey scored a banger of a goal Banger goal. He’s been atrocious all year. He’s been really bad. He’s been really wasteful. And the it’s not. It’s not flowing. Ruffinia is getting hurt every time he plays. He hasn’t played a full 90 since last year.
Henry Wynd: he’s getting hurt every time he plays. Felix has been playing really well, and he actually combines pretty well with Lei Windowski. But personally, I think that Landowski just needs to kind of like, get out of the way of that team. So Felix can step into that like false. He’s combining it well with anyone. Yeah, he I mean, he’s so. But the thing that I for the life of me cannot understand. And if you watched this game
The commentators! Henry Wynd: Commentators were beside themselves on this, but Henry Wynd: Barcelona was playing a high line inside of their own half, like literally on Vinnie’s first and second goal.
Henry Wynd: They were trying to play Vinnie offsides. If this was the halfway line, they were literally in the offensive half. And so Vinnie was just standing on the off like the halfway line Henry Wynd: behind the defenders like it was insane. And then you have guys like
Henry Wynd: Araho who I love. I think he’s one of the most underrated center backs
Henry Wynd: in the world. He’s playing 2 positions, cause he has Jules Kunda next to him that can’t fucking hit water if he falls out of a boat like the guy is such a liability. But they don’t have any other. Write back like they don’t have anyone else that can do that. And so.
Henry Wynd: and like a Rajo has to go play right back and center back. And he’s just over playing. And so comparatively to last year, these guys are just underperforming completely, and they don’t have boost gets cleaning things up. They don’t have Jordi Alba’s leadership like they don’t have kind of that like
Henry Wynd: leadership group.
Henry Wynd: because you watch the game, and like Frankie, still balls, Felix still balls. But, like other than that, you don’t really have these guys who were like doing really well, Tershagen’s been hurt for a while, so they’re relying on a backup keeper. He could have done better on one of Vinnie’s goals. He could have charged out. But, like
Hoov: Barcelona is also going through an identity crisis. And they have $0 to do anything. So is like, yeah, all the talk is like is, Chad is gonna get fired, and the answer is, no, because they can’t afford to fire him. Similarly, with 10 hag like they can’t all. They also can’t afford to fire him. But, like, yeah, real Madrid is great, and we know that they’ve been playing well all season. They’re awesome. But Barcelona has been
Henry Wynd: hard to watch this year. They’ve been really hard to watch, and Landowski is geared up, primed, and ready for the Mls. Will be probably La Galaxy next year, whatever the fuck
Connersendobry: experience. 6 to protect. I love Gundo, and I love. I love Frankie obviously, but like they’re both not the same type of player that sketch was being able to do that role in front of that back. 4.
Connersendobry: So yeah, you see those struggles. II mean, II also I enjoy watching Ramadi. That team is just not as not as deep as city, I’d say, but like the fact that you can bring like a Tony cruise off the bench. MoD. Rich, and you have 2 committee, and you have Bellingham. It’s just II
Henry Wynd: so fun to watch they they genuinely like they have some of my favorite players in the world in each position, like on their team, like I watched that, you know World Cup, Netflix stocks, and like I forgot how much I love 2 of many, and even though he like missed his pen in the final, I’m like guys a dog. He’s so awesome, and he’s also so young. Cama Ving is awesome. I’ve loved Tony Cruise my whole career, and we haven’t even talked about belling him. But like.
Connersendobry: yeah, those guys. It’s just there’s such a great team to watch, I think. Rudiger still such a bitch he’s like picked up where Ramos left off with round Madrid, because.
Henry Wynd: yeah, they’re great. They’re a great team. But Barcelona, Rip, Bro! Shout out Dylan Lee. I know that he wants to hear about Barcelona more on the pod. But, brother, if they keep playing like that, we’re not going to be able to talk too much about it.
Hoov: That’s facts. Bro, that’s facts. Bro. Bootchie Mane: well, big win for real Madrid congratulations to them. Now it’s time for the big finale. Baby. Here we go, baby. Bootchie Mane: The next 20 plus minutes are going to be gold to your eardrums, people. Bootchie Mane: because
Bootchie Mane: we’re coming to you with the first ever mecha of banter sauce list. Now, if you are not familiar with the term sauce if you’re not. If you were not a footballer in your in your days of living, okay, if you got the sales.
Bootchie Mane: that means you’re him. Okay, you got self. Bootchie Mane: And this is how it’s gonna go. Okay. Bootchie Mane: we’re gonna have 9 different positions. Bootchie Mane: Every single one of us has to pick one player. Bootchie Mane: We have 9 positions. Bootchie Mane: We have 9.
Hoov: We don’t need to keep her on this list. No? Well, no, we’re gonna go 10. We’re gonna go 10.
Bootchie Mane: But this is, hey? Listen carefully to the rules of the game fellas. The sauce list will be determined. We’ve got 5 tiers. We’ve got the ST. Ourselves. We’ve got a tier BC tier. And lastly, you’ve got the D tier, which is where Mustard would go if that this was actual salt. Okay.
Bootchie Mane: now Bootchie Mane: every round for every position. We all pick one player. Bootchie Mane: The key is they have to have played since we were born. So that’s 1,997 and onward. Bootchie Mane: Okay? Couldn’t tell you. Bootchie Mane: Oh, yeah, you’re right. Bootchie Mane: Tell you one. Let me name 5.
Bootchie Mane: So collect. So so listen, chat. We’re gonna give you 40 players. It’s gonna go quick, because every round every round we’re gonna start with goalkeeper. We all pick one goalie
Bootchie Mane: except if I say, my Goalie, I can’t vote. You 3 have to vote and place my goalie in in whatever tier you guys think he goes in like, are you gonna write these down.
Bootchie Mane: Yeah, I got them all written. I’m gonna write them all down, and we’re gonna we’re gonna make a little spreadsheet. We’re gonna shout it out at the end of the episode. Okay, so we’re gonna start with goalkeepers.
Bootchie Mane: I’m gonna say, my first goalkeeper, you guys, II won’t say a word. You guys. STAB, C, or D, okay, we’re gonna go wrap fire here, baby connersendobry: Gigi boo Gigi, boof phones Bootchie Mane: south. Hoov: What are the tiers? Bootchie Mane: S tier, a tier, B tier, C and D,
Connersendobry: are we coming up with the other goalies? Bootchie Mane: You guys got a rate gg, bu phone. What tier does he go in Henry Wynd: B from a soft perspective. BI think he’s the sauciest keeper there ever it was, but that’s not a lot of sauce.
Hoov: Oh, brother, no, there. There are keepers that are that are higher up. On this. Every vote is every vote is a numbers thing. So if 2 out of 3 say B. He goes in the beats here. Henry Wynd: Okay. where?
Henry Wynd: Alright now we’re gonna go ahead and you pick your goalie. We’ll place them in the soft tier. I’ll give you my actual goalie. But my fictional goalie, that is the bottom of the soft tier bottom is Matt Turner, the guy just out of it, like no sauce with the ball, no style reference. Like, yeah, just like II was writing this, and I was like, we gotta give Matt Turner a shout. If I’m going most sauce.
Henry Wynd: II would say, Ederson and I wanna give a rogue shout for those who know to Fabi and Barthes.
Henry Wynd: if you know, you know, Bro, he used to change smoke darts between halves. Bro, yeah. And that man will take anyone on with a dribble out of the back. He’ll pull scissors in the corner when he’s the last last man. Barthes was a madman. But I’m going, Ederson, as my my sauce list keeper.
Hoov: I would put. I would put Edison in the beat here because that neck tattoos ugly shit based on how he plays man is sassy.
Hoov: how he plays and how he looks is kind of an equivalent, you know, and how he carries himself on the pitch. I’m gonna see? He’s not Bufan. I think Bufan’s got the Comp.
Henry Wynd: it’s okay. It’s all. It’s all opinion based. It’s okay. That’s how the game works. Is that a game works alright. Dobes give us a goalie here.
Connersendobry: I don’t know why. This is the first thing that caught came to my head like when I not that I thought of sauce I’m going to. Who says are
Connersendobry: he was a dog, I mean he was with with some of the best Brazil Brazilian teams of all time had good feet can make some saves. Bootchie Mane: He’s also massive. He’s a huge, dude boy, massive. I’d go beats here for the kid.
Hoov: I’m fine with that, I think. Beats. Here’s a good shout for Cesar. He was a he was a stud. Bro. Bootchie Mane: He was stud Hoov: all right. Hoove hit us with a goalie.
Hoov: I hey? I’m just to preface all of this with, I did not prepare as well as I should have for this second. But Hugo, Larry will stay. No, Hugo, it’s one too many drink driving
Hoov: cases. But I’m gonna go. The local lad, who was also at 1 point a generational baller from the Swiss line. Hoov: My man Roman Berkeys got sauce. Hoov: I think his distribution his side fucking volley on a ping 80 yards into Giacini on the run.
Hoov: He plays with his feet. He’ll pick a pass. Bootchie Mane: and he’s extremely handsome. He! He was on my list as well. Hoov: He’s definitely not Bufan, but Henry Wynd: unbiased. Henry Wynd: unbiased. Here. Hoov: Roman Berkeley.
Bootchie Mane: Hey? This this is hard Bro. Cause he plays for our our club, but Hoov: he was also doing it forever at Dortmund Dude. If we put Ederson seats here, Berkeley’s gotta go. Ctrd. Hoov: I can handle that.
Henry Wynd: Goalkeepers are done. Let’s go to left back. I’m gonna hit, you guys with Marcelo. Bootchie Mane: Oh, that’s not good for me. Not true. That’s not true. Bootchie Mane: you said. Tha, that’s that’s not true. I’ve got. I’ve got a few sleepers in here. They’re gonna blow your mind.
Bootchie Mane: Go ahead. That’s fine, I think. Bootchie Mane: Who’d you say again, Marcela Marcello? He’s gotta go Hoov: a T, Hoov: yeah. Henry Wynd: You have one that’s higher than that best laughback I’ve ever seen. Play the game ever.
Henry Wynd: Marcello was disgusted. He he was the inverted Wingback before. That was a thing like he. I know that you can’t judge a player on a highlight Comp. Because everyone looks good but some of his highlight taking free kicks for the Brazilian national team
Henry Wynd: as a left back dude. Just watch the way that Marcelo just receives a pass. Oh, they’re so good, they’re so good. Bro. Bootchie Mane: Where’s Barcelona Bootchie Mane: first? Bootchie Mane: What’d you say? Where’s Marcello going first? connersendobry: I want him in S. But I’m good test here.
Bootchie Mane: Alright. So where is reversal? I’m not. Yeah. Beside myself over here Bootchie Mane: is Roberto Carlos, an 8 here. Hoov: Yeah, that doesn’t even make sense. That doesn’t make sense. That’s what I’m saying. Bro. connersendobry: but has more like, I think Marcello, in the way that he plays
Bootchie Mane: is like, has more software. All respect to to legend or virtual car. I agree, I agree. Bootchie Mane: I agree. Bootchie Mane: Wait your cabin right. Bootchie Mane: Wait! Are you serious? Oh, mine was brutal, Carlos, I’ll let you, Henry Henry, who you go with left back
Henry Wynd: can I? Can I just round out if we already have an S. And a can I give a bottom of the barrel again? I don’t know why all these are like coming to mind Bootchie Mane: caliber. Bootchie Mane: I’m just. I know I had a class with him.
Henry Wynd: If we if we need a man in each category, I’m comfortable with Kyle, hey? I’ll hey? I’ll respect Kyle Hebron if you’re watching. If you’re gonna be listening to this episode tomorrow, man Matt, respect to you. Yeah, very well, thank you anytime. But you want you want my other saucy left back.
Hoov: Who’d you got? Yes, Emerson Royale? Henry Wynd: Basketball shorts on down past his knees. Heber might be above him. Hoov: Brother, I’ve never seen a failed no look past attempt. So funny. Bro.
Bootchie Mane: we’re gonna we’re gonna throw Kyle Hebert in here just because you said it. First, we’re gonna throw Hebert in the in the Dt. Here with Burki. Bootchie Mane: I love. I love the differentiation. Bootchie Mane: Who, if you had to pick a left back? Who you picking Hoov: Theo Hernandez?
Bootchie Mane: Oh, I forgot about him as an entire pro. I know I know he’s still young. but right right now I would put them. B Hoov: dude. Yeah, I agree. The guy’s got obscene confidence. He I’m with. He gets the ball, he’s like.
Hoov: who am I taking on motherfuckers? Let’s do it like, I really like him. Yeah. Bootchie Mane: Hen, would you be unanimous on the beats here? Fine with it. Bootchie Mane: Alright, teo teos of future. He’s a I think he’s a Ashley Cole. Hoov: Yeah, that’s true. Yeah, fax.
Henry Wynd: he’s a wink. connersendobry: Alright. So we’re covered on left back. Bootchie Mane: recovered left back. We’re going to go to center Hoov: alright Henry Wynd: whenever Bush wants to join us back connection back.
Connersendobry: I think the center backs. He, we. This is almost good because he’s going to start with Virgil. Hoov: There’s no way you start with Virgil. connersendobry: Bye. connersendobry: II think that, do we just want to do ours, or we I mean. connersendobry: Ramos. Yeah. Hoov: Oh, yeah. Ramos is.
Hoov: He’s the guy. Henry Wynd: Yeah, II feel like for me. I feel like Ramos might even be s just like for our generation. Th the way that he
Henry Wynd: like showed up big moments, and then, like he also has to swag off the pitch to like, he’s just yeah. He like the larger than life, like persona from. He’s the on the field. connersendobry: the on the field. He’s got it off the field. He’s got it.
Connersendobry: Yeah, he’s the guy. Hoov: He’s the guy. Yeah. connersendobry: yeah. You guys go ahead. III have so many center backs for some reason. Just rattle them off. Who? You have. connersendobry: Kind of arrow.
Henry Wynd: Yeah, it’s great. It’s good. He’s got the swag. Bro, I’ll go just because you haven’t mentioned it. Henry Wynd: general. John Stones, yeah. Bro, back in the early 2,000 like Henry Wynd: he had it going on. connersendobry: I think what we have. We have it mentioned connersendobry: 0. Pk.
Connersendobry: I don’t mind that. I don’t know. Dealing with all these names that we’ve just named, but people not watching Youtube. Butch has been frozen for the last 2 min.
Hoov: and we may or may not get him back here. So I’ll ask. I’ll ask a question. That kind of goes with center backs if we’re not doing total or waiting for Butch. Who would you say now. connersendobry: like current players center back most calls
Henry Wynd: like again. How do you define sauce? Hoov: Hi. Hoov: I think. Still, I know we just mentioned him earlier. But Rudiger, like he’s a lockdown defender, but he also has.
Hoov: I like larger than life personality, and like he’s such a shit house like even just the little things like, you know, like the high knees when he was running, and like all of that stuff, he’s been doing it the last couple of years. He has a Banger in them. He’ll score goals.
Henry Wynd: I think. Like sauce wise he he’s up there for me. connersendobry: Let’s let’s just because rejoin, let’s see if we can’t just decide on the names that we’ve done since. Who’s our? Who’s our s tier? Henry Wynd: Maldini or Ramos? Hoov: I’m good with Ramos. He was the original.
Hoov: He was the original, I mean, from my our generation like connersendobry: you knew what you were going to get when he came to play that day
Hoov: like, there’s a a few that can be tossed around, for I don’t think we have to necessarily slot them into like like. Personally, I threw out Johnstone’s. But of the list and guys we have. I’m more trending like, Be here. See?
Henry Wynd: Ii would throw Maldini in in a if he’s not going to be asked like. I just think he Henry Wynd: he’s like kind of like an Og Rolls Royce, like he he was outrageous. Henry Wynd: yeah, I think he was really good.
Henry Wynd: Do you all have a lot for right backs. I have. I have literally have one person on my right back list, but I guess I have 2 Henry Wynd: not many, though. Who have you got wingbacks coming to mind? Hoov: I
Hoov: Not not a ton that I’ve enjoyed watching in the last, you know. Couple of years. Hoov: I mean, currently Henry Wynd: my man. Pedro’s pretty saucy, not bad, not bad.
Hoov: He’s really one of the only like spurs players that came to mind when I was like, all right, if we’re gonna be looking across the world and into some history Henry Wynd: like he’s the only spurs player in my mind that has fucking sauce.
Henry Wynd: I’m gonna throw back Danny Alvis, because Danny Alva’s again similar to the Ramos shout like for me, was like that like generational right back. But I also have Hakimi in the chat. Hakimi over at Psg. Saucy right back.
Hoov: Give us give us who your center back pick was, and then we’re gonna give you who we picked. RYAN BUTCHART: Yeah, yeah, sorry for the disconnection there. But my center back pick. I had Ramos. So I’m guessing you guys already picked him. RYAN BUTCHART: Yeah, what else.
RYAN BUTCHART: Maldini? I like it. What else do we have? connersendobry: Johnny Stones? Dog? Okay? RYAN BUTCHART: Oh, fantastic! Right? Right right where we left off with the right back the right backs got fucking drip. Bro Hoov: they got. They got drip and sauce. Bro
RYAN BUTCHART: Bro, when you see it right back with the wrist with the wrist taped. Oh, shit! Hoov: Oh, shit! Who who do you have? One of these?
RYAN BUTCHART: Bro, my, my! My right. I pick. I picked a guy who’s just got me he’s got. He’s like the chick-fil-a sauce of sauces. Bro. RYAN BUTCHART: Joe, concealo connersendobry: slightly like when you put
RYAN BUTCHART: Bro. Dude some of the some of the stuff he! He! He can do stuff that Marcelo did on the ball Bro. Henry Wynd: and then not have the product after it. But yes, for sure. Yeah, he? He’s playing so well that he’s starting on the bench for that.
RYAN BUTCHART: we go, Dan Hoov: Block. RYAN BUTCHART: yeah. Who Danielves is an St. Or sauce for sure. What else. connersendobry: Who’s who wants to go? Henry Wynd: Does this go all the way down to C tier?
RYAN BUTCHART: It goes down to the D tier where we’ve got St. Louis City boys. Gary, Neville. Henry Wynd: II got a question for you. Maybe connersendobry: I was. Gonna say, Philip Lomb. Hoov: Oh, yeah, long get him up there. Get him.
Hoov: I’ve got a thing with these, with Germans. Hear me out. II had a couple of guys that I potentially listed with. The more I looked at them the more German they were. And I’ve just decided Germans don’t have that much sauce. Technical ability. Yes, technical ability out the ass. There was not one thing. There’s one German who is on my sauce list that I will that is.
Henry Wynd: I will! I will! I’ll fight this to the grave. He was my, he was actually my first name on this list.
RYAN BUTCHART: Dude, Henry, I think you and I have the same one. Bro. I’m not. Gonna I’m not gonna spoil it. But you, I’m telling you that I feel the telepathy right now. I feel it. It’s kind of RYAN BUTCHART: I’m gonna say, Phillip Lomb, I’m gonna say, Philip Limeset sauce? Hoov: Yeah.
Connersendobry: I think I think he, even Gary Neville, are by the same bottles. Sauce. But, Gary, I mean we can’t. We cannot put Philip Lime in the same thing as Kyle Hebert Bro. Dude. III love, I love the what was it? 2,006 World Cup with the Philip Lom sleeves that were like
Hoov: overflowing because he was so small hitting a banger from outside the 18 with his right boot. RYAN BUTCHART: How about C. Tier for Phillip. Hoov: Yeah, I’m cool with that. Sure. Henry Wynd: Not a lot of sauce. But like the literally the the playing makes up for it. Guys unbelievable.
RYAN BUTCHART: Ro rob robot Butch. Oh, God, it’s just like it’s so. It’s so hard to listen to. That concludes right back alright. We’re gonna slide over to Cbm Henry Wynd: pure, low, Bro. Hoov: Central defensive midfield. Was he? Was he always a 6 RYAN BUTCHART: dude? This is gonna hurt my soul.
RYAN BUTCHART: What? Yes, Bro. RYAN BUTCHART: He was. He was a 6, I mean? He? He played a little bit of an 8, Hoov: but he was. He was like Hoov: Prime Peer. Low is is Cdm. Bro. He was. He was a passer before he was anything else.
Henry Wynd: I think he I think he’s one of the sauciest ever do it on the field. Hoov: I mean. Not only is he the coolest guy ever. But he extended how cool he was via what he could do with his feet.
Hoov: and he did it in slow motion. He was not fast. He was not. Hoov: He was not a huge player, physically dominant Hoov: dude. Just could pull you on a string.
RYAN BUTCHART: Bro. I’m a I’m I’m gonna vote est here because the the hair, the hair to be the hair to beer. It’s like it’s like chill the pull. If you got 5 to 5 chill to pull
Henry Wynd: unbelievable. I this isn’t gonna be S. But I wanna throw Trabi Alonzo in there when he was playing he was just class all around a couple more names I’m gonna throw out boost gets. You couldn’t be cooler on the ball than boost gets. connersendobry: It was unbelievable kind of boring guy.
RYAN BUTCHART: yeah, well, we well, we all well, we all got to pick one, and we have to vote so. RYAN BUTCHART: And you can pick next. Which one of those 2 do you want to go with? I said, furlough, brother. Okay. So Hen went. Piero Hoov: Estier Estier. We voted here.
RYAN BUTCHART: I’m gonna go. I’m gonna go. II had shabby Alonzo as well. Henry. Hoov: I think he’s a I think he is Hoov: so cool and was cool on the ball. RYAN BUTCHART: Yeah, I’m good with that I’m good. With that, would you? Would you agree on the 8 tier vote?
Connersendobry: Yes. Robot book. Okay, Chave. Alonso is an 8 hoof. Who’s your Cdm. RYAN BUTCHART: we’re going. We’re going proper. Cdm is what we’re doing proper. Cdm. oh, fuck Hoov: dude, that’s my I. Yeah, this is where the preparation aspect didn’t. Hoov: Alright. So
Hoov: you go, you go! II got one, I think, though Henry Wynd: who? Hoov: Oh, God! Henry Wynd: II would say. Keen is like level 8 of the like hot ones challenge like that’s where the soft level is. It’s like he’s gonna kill you. But you’ll come back for more, you know.
Hoov: I will see Henry Wynd: kind of threw a rogue shout again. Henry Wynd: yes, Raja Nan galan remember who used to play yeah. The little like Mohawk with the tattoos everywhere. Just hit hisers like
Henry Wynd: every other game. He was unbelievable, never fit in that Belgium side ever. But he was always like just an unbelievable player, saucy, too. The drip was there. He was saucy. Bro. He had that sick Mohawk, too. Yeah.
Hoov: So we he was mentioned previously in the pod, but I did want to bring him up Hoov: And now’s the time came. Avengers got saucepro. saucy little guy. What year do we have left? RYAN BUTCHART: Well, we could. It’s anywhere we vote. Henry Wynd: I think
Hoov: I like the I like the bee tier. RYAN BUTCHART: Okay, that, concludes Cdm, we we move now to your prototypical box to Box Center mid. So, as we call them 8. We call them eights. Henderson. Henry Wynd: Wait, are you? Are you? Are you serious? No. connersendobry: Are you missing
RYAN BUTCHART: Bro. Jordan Henderson, you know. Is he on yours? Hoov: I was joking. RYAN BUTCHART: Now I can start because my mine I don’t think any of you guys would have thought of it was kind of out out of the out of the blue. But I’m talking prime.
RYAN BUTCHART: Tottenham Hotspur. He was on my list. Bro. Don’t even get me started about that guy.
Hoov: He had extra sauce on the side. Bro. Yeah, he was one of those cats. If he wasn’t finishing Seventh and Sixth at Tottenham in those years, and was playing for barca or something, he would be a lot more because he was disgusting. RYAN BUTCHART: He was different.
Hoov: You got you guys got to vote. Hoov: I’m good with Bee. Henry Wynd: Yeah Hoov: year. A. Henry Wynd: Well, II have a big shout for a I’m going like, Juventus early United Pogba. RYAN BUTCHART: Yeah, he’s gotta be a 2. He’s got to be a 2.
Henry Wynd: Yeah, he might be loved doping back then, you never know but dude when he was at Juventus, and when he was just like pulling outrageous shit, and even when he first got to united I mean he was. He was so strong he was so good.
RYAN BUTCHART: Pod was gotta be 8 here. Bro. connersendobry: If we can find a picture, a graphic of him in a juventus Jersey for the first time, then yes, for sure. I have 2 different ones if you if I could say 2 sure connersendobry: first one. connersendobry: Yaya Tuare. Hoov: great second one
Connersendobry: Patrick Vera. Great Henry Wynd: was he more of a sick? He I guess he was a box to box. RYAN BUTCHART: Yeah, he was box to Box Bro. If you go, if you go. Yeah, yeah. RYAN BUTCHART: I’m going. S, Hoov: yeah, cool. With that
RYAN BUTCHART: I’m going to ask Dude. He he scored 20 something goals in the Prem. Bro. In one year. connersendobry: Alright. Sure Henry Wynd: such, I mean. He saw he’s saucier than Poly P. Bro. connersendobry: I don’t know about that. Hoov: I don’t know, man. connersendobry: Sure, we’ll put that RYAN BUTCHART: okay
Connersendobry: 10 min. RYAN BUTCHART: We’re gonna make it. Does that conclude our Cms. Or we got one more. connersendobry: That’s it for me. Hoov: I didn’t throw one out, but I’m just gonna throw a blind shot Hoov: and see where it lands. Frankie.
Henry Wynd: Frankie is on my list. Bro. Thank you. Thank you. Henry Wynd: Thank you. Hoov: I don’t think he’s a saucy as Juventus Paul Pagua, and he’s certainly not. Hoov: Last year, he or she. RYAN BUTCHART: I’m biased. I’m biased. I can’t. I can’t weigh in on this.
Hoov: Who do we have and be right now I’m gonna go, be RYAN BUTCHART: the Henry Wynd: hey? But all rock schools are close tomorrow. Bro. RYAN BUTCHART: what? RYAN BUTCHART: I just got the text dude, let’s talk through cam, and then the front 3
RYAN BUTCHART: cam n going to the cam ken. I think you and I had the same one. Mezudo. Yes, sir, absolutely absolutely. He’s gotta be s tier bro Henry Wynd: dude. He. He was awesome, so saucy.
RYAN BUTCHART: so sausage, dude his. The no look passes, the freaking, flicks the back heals. I mean the only other person that I would throw in this like S. Category with him is Zidon.
Henry Wynd: I almost put them as my like my number 8 box to box, but in the cam position Zidon is in that sier for me! Henry Wynd: Shout out Nick Doherty. One time. RYAN BUTCHART: Nikki d gladgen. Where would we?
Hoov: I think a if Zidon’s s he’s not Saddam level man. Stop! RYAN BUTCHART: We gotta put an a hand cause we can’t vote so a tier. Alright doves hit me with a cam please. connersendobry: Deep category. Hoov: It is deep category.
Connersendobry: I’m gonna go because we’ve talked about him earlier. I’m gonna go with David Silva. RYAN BUTCHART: Yeah, cool Hoov: got it so fun to watch category for that. RYAN BUTCHART: I would go a tier again. Henry Wynd: Really Henry Wynd: I would. I would go be A, I’m in the BB list.
Henry Wynd: Okay, we’re gonna put him. B, we’re gonna put him. B, hey? Would you? So I didn’t really know what position to put this guy in, because he kind of plays everywhere, but he’s like a cam center. Forward, Memphis depi
Henry Wynd: like I think he’s so saucy on the ball so confident, and he just has drip out the ass. So, like Henry Wynd: Memphis, I was on my list as well. Hoov: I think he’s c compared to some of these cats. Henry Wynd: Okay? connersendobry: Well,
Hoov: should we fly through. Should we fly through the front? 3. Yeah, let me give you my last cam, my last document field there, which I am upset because he will fall completely below the people we’ve already listed. But Hoov: Marco Royce Henry Wynd: oh, Marcus.
Hoov: a saucy, saucy little guy! 2420 14. Marco Royce was so sick he was he was nasty Hoov: so sick. But I’m giving him like a seat here, just considering the other guys that have been mentioned in this category. RYAN BUTCHART: I would I would go see?
Henry Wynd: Let’s get this front 3. RYAN BUTCHART: Yeah, I’m Marco Royce. We’re gonna start with right wing. RYAN BUTCHART: Right? My pick is quasma. Henry Wynd: Good show. RYAN BUTCHART: Bro. The King of the Travella Bro. The guy invented it
Henry Wynd: for me. He’s a B, just because, like he never reached the heights of Like, you know all that. He was just so fun to watch. But he’s a B for me. RYAN BUTCHART: Okay, beats here. Henry Wynd: Mine is Riyad Mahrez. RYAN BUTCHART: Oh.
Henry Wynd: just for a couple of years. There, man. It’s just unplayable. RYAN BUTCHART: II think I think he’s a tier higher than quasma, for sure. connersendobry: I think Henry Wynd: I’m just trying to think if there’s anyone else that I would put in that sier above him
Henry Wynd: I’m comfortable with like in my lifetime, I mean. Henry Wynd: I’m surprised you didn’t say Sala, but connersendobry: deed here Henry Wynd: we talking hairlines? What what are we talking about here?
Connersendobry: I can’t vote on Mars, but I got, can I? What are we doing for him? Oh, we can’t vote, you can’t vote on them I’m good with. I’m good with 8 here. I don’t think RYAN BUTCHART: yeah. A tier is good for me. Eye dopes. connersendobry: You guys ready for this?
Connersendobry: Ari and Robin RYAN BUTCHART: SS. RYAN BUTCHART: That’s sauce. Bro. Hoov: Alright. Hoov: I’m going to go with the original Marz Leroy. Sane best year ever. Yeah, currently, I guess
Hoov: II liked him a lot more at obviously, and I thought he was more dynamic than he was now or is now. But Hoov: guys fucking cool. RYAN BUTCHART: Yeah, he was cool. Bro. I’m I would go B or C be. I guess I’d go see? I don’t have a vote, but
Hoov: he’s not as cool as any of the other. I vote Henry Wynd: school. Hoov: Lock it RYAN BUTCHART: alright real quick. We got 2 more left wing I got. I got Daniel Ronald Dino. I’m just gonna put him Hoov: put a mess. Yeah.
Henry Wynd: II think there’s a few. S’s here. Yeah. My mine is a lock for an S to its Namear. connersendobry: I think mine’s gonna be a nice. I don’t want to steal it from Hoover, but Gareth bale Hoov: the golf, relax, step up on the field absolute ball, or like
Henry Wynd: I don’t. I don’t think he’s Deano, and I don’t think he’s name our. So for that reason I would give it an a tier, but I just think he’s that like he’s got that like kind of nonchalant, like Aura aura, for sure Henry Wynd: we’re talking auras Hoov: shit.
Am I up? RYAN BUTCHART: You’re up Hoov: dude. I don’t know. Hoov: Oh. Hoov: good! Hoov: I love Sonny. He’s not. He’s not the saucy sky in the world.
Connersendobry: Technical. I don’t know, though. Man, would you get with the who’s he? Who’s his sponsors here, Louie, or is he? Oh, no, he’s Burberry Bro. Sony off the fields. Got some.
Hoov: Yeah, let’s just let’s just throw Sunny in there. Of of those guys sunny is on my list for what it’s worth. connersendobry: I’ll I’ll I’ll give you be Hoov: the yeah. RYAN BUTCHART: It’s not Gareth RYAN BUTCHART: alright real quick. We got last, but not least, the striker position with our 9.
Henry Wynd: Nice good one. Henry Wynd: Rhoda, did we not put Messi in this list. Hoov: I’m gonna go. The guy that got me into one of the guys that got me into spurs Hoov: and fell united. Glad. Hoov: Dimitar Bergata, who has a maybe the best
RYAN BUTCHART: was the first person on this list. Henry Wynd: laziest laziest player i’ve ever seen. RYAN BUTCHART: stop. But my God. Hoov: who’s that am I up Hoov: yeah connersendobry: fuck. connersendobry: there’s so many, I wanna say, but I think he has to be set. connersendobry: But do I say him.
Hoov: I gotta go, Henry. Yeah, I have to. Hoov: Yeah connersendobry: baggy jeans with all the rest of the united squad. Never. Bro. Yes, sir, baby alright real quick. We’re gonna go through real fast estate. We had Marcelo secure that most Dani Alves, Pierlo Iron, Robin Ronaldino, Neymar, Gareth, Bale, Ibra, and Bourbitov
RYAN BUTCHART: and Thierry, on Ri. 8, Tier Roberto, Carlos Maldini, Chabbi, Alonzo Paul Pogba, Mesudozil, riad, Mares B. Tier Gigi, Bufan, Giulio Cezar, Teo, Hernandez, John Stones, Cama Vinga. RYAN BUTCHART: We had Frankie, the young David Silva Chorezma
RYAN BUTCHART: and Moose Gary Neville, in our 2 city boys, Roman Bergi and Kyle, unbelievable. That is our first tier list, baby.
RYAN BUTCHART: Not a bad list. We had this bunch of fun on tonight’s episode we appreciate. You guys listening catch us on our social media from all the fellas here peace and love, thanks for tuning in.
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butch talked more COD than footy this episode my lord