The weekend of NFL playoff games brought up plenty of discussion about what the Chicago Bears should do with Justin Fields. Especially after seeing what C.J. Stroud did on Saturday, do you trust Bears general manager Ryan Poles to figure this out? On this edition of the CHGO Bears Podcast, Adam Hoge and Mark Carman discuss the NFL playoff action and what the Bears can learn from it.

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Of good playoff football a lot of NFC North talk and a lot of lessons to be learned I think for the Chicago Bears and no even though the headline in the show is about the quarterback and we do want to talk about Ryan poles and I think especially in the CJ stoud

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And what we could learn from quite frankly I just want to be enjoy you guys are all saying that today are we saying that quite frankly show I didn’t even know I said it I’ll go into I’ll janiz the rest of it certainly quite naturally well Evan Lewis getting a oh it just

Came up I I can still see it Evan Lewis just said 499 no I don’t trust him this organization has let me down for 25 years they have to earn my trust of course that’s into in response to the headline on today’s show which is do you

Trust Ryan poles to get this quarterback situation right and as we discuss the Browns Texans game which I think there’s a couple angles here from both sides CJ stoud lighting things up um Fran Chile here saying 999 Packers played great lions with Montgomery showed they

Are for real oh and yeah CJ stra won a playoff game has anyone made sure Braggs isn’t at the bottom of the lake Lake Michigan he’s in the chat so I think he’s okay but he could be from the bottom of the lake I think the Lake’s starting to

Freeze over too which makes it harder to you at least drive out on the ice brags could break through let’s be honest I know it’s a there’s a lot of sea smoke out there a little foamy water starting to freeze you can see on the the lake

Jumper the lake jumper today had a video and it was I looked like it was all Frozen to me yes uh it’s Daniel oconor love him great like jumper he’s the best I love him too that he does that so none of us have to do that looks miserable than you

Daniel if someone has to do that thank you Daniel all right first of all I want to start this whole thing on CJ shroud as we get into that conversation um with the fact that I loved Ryan poles as answer to this question last week I

Love the questions I love that Brad bigs asked the question didn’t really get answered and Mark Poes followed up later and got an answer out of it but Ryan Po’s defense was great like okay I not we’re pretty happy with what we got out of this whole situation yes CJ stra

Looks like he’s pretty good but um we also got the number one pick Darnell rright DJ Moore another second rounder next year Tyreek you know a lot of things yeah Tyreek Stevenson a lot of things that they wouldn’t had if they had just selected CJ strad last year um

Now they could have traded Justin Fields then too but you know not it the process and I always say evaluate the process the process was still sound last year I think it’s a different conversation this year but I also think there’s another side to the argument that if you just want to be

Like hey look that was a quarterback the Bears could have had and now they don’t have that maybe they maybe it wasn’t the right decision so this is 1,000% hindsight I was not and I don’t think if you look back on it anybody at the time

Was saying that CJ strad was going to win the offensive Rookie of the Year and be headed into his second season as in the NFL as a chance to be a top five to eight quarterback in the game which is where he’s headed so it’s all high in

Sight but I don’t love poll’s answer as much as you do because what do you want him to say I want him to say that look there were perhaps some things that with CJ that I did not see because if I if I had known that the guy was going to be this

Good then obviously I would have drafted him because these guys don’t come around all the time now we are fortunate that we have the number one overall pick so if we want to take the best quarterback in this draft we can or we could continue to do what we’ve done which is

Build around Justin and I’m comfortable with both of those but you know hats off to CJ who if you go back and look at it CJ Stout I don’t know if this impacted the Bears at all I don’t think it did but he had a low test score on one of

Those intelligence tests basically the Wonder look he he scored an 18 Stout took the test multiple times scored the lowest of the 2023 quarterback process 18% out of 100 okay so and there was a lot of talk that that what’s the name of that test the name of the test is the 52

Cognition the S2 I’m sorry the S2 cognition the S2 so the S2 and at that point if I remember right there was a lot of people saying like this actually this test has been pretty spoton in terms of players who haven’t done well on it quarterbacks who

Specifically who have not done well on this test have not worked out it’s supposed to quote scientifically measure an athletes gamee speed cognitive abilities down to a millisecond level St took the test multiple times lowest score Red Flag to some teams I do Wonder like did the Bears red flag trout like

Wow this guy’s not smart enough to play NFL football he scored an 18 out of 100 I don’t know when that test was conducted because well was before the draft right but the Bears traded pick in early March okay well the date on this article is well the date on this article

Is draft day so it’s possible that it was taken after and I I I’m going to guess that they listen at that time they were not ready to move off of Justin they knew that the the roster was in so devoid of talent that they needed

To add on as much as they did however you would still draft the quarterback in that situation if you knew if somebody gave you a guarantee this dude is generational which CJ stoud might actually be you’re going to draft the quarterback so he could have he

Could have said like hey man we were in a position where we needed a lot of talent it was way too big of a swing for me to bet on a guy um who you know didn’t go number one overall wasn’t a consensus and I but looking at what he

Done hats off to him so where I come in on this isn’t so much at that it was a mistake I where I think it’s more relevant is the now whereas can you risk this happening two years in a row right so you are like I I’m down

With the whole idea that the process was fine that the trade was fine that passing on CJ stra was fine that it was totally understandable I think one of the things that keeps getting lost in this conversation is only having two years of Justin Field’s evaluation and

One year in your system with his rookie year basically being a complete waste of time for everybody involved it was too early to make a definitive conclusion on him another year of tape I going into now what will be year four and having having to make a fifth

Year option decision months from now is a completely different situation for me and so it’s more about okay you got a pass for last year you get a pass for passing on CJ strad if this happens again though you don’t get a pass if you keep Justin and we’re in the

Same exact spot having these same conversations about him a year from now and cayb Williams was just the Rookie of the Year and in a playoff game for a team you don’t get a pass then no you’re at all you’re going to look horrendous is what you’re going to look you passed

On the dude who’s leading the Texans who’s the youngest quarterback since Michael Vic to win a playoff game in the NFL you passed on that dude and then you know if Caleb is what people think Caleb is going to be that would be a rough look for Ryan poles you’re a spot on

Getting back to the Crux of the question on the headline of today’s show though do you trust Ryan ran poles I think it’s entirely possible that Ryan poles liked CJ Stout and still made the decision based on the entire picture to do what he did trade the pick anyway get DJ

Moore add help to the offensive line all those things were necessary so I don’t necessarily sit here A year later worried man Ryan poles can’t Scout quarterbacks because he passed on CJ Stout in fact there’s probably some evidence even if there was some luck because it’s not like they

Drafted him but they did seem to hit on Tyson bent at least as a backup sure as an undrafted free agent guys so it’s not like I have more concerns quite frankly that they they’re struggling to Draft wide receivers than than you know the quarterback position at this point is

That I mean does is that all fair well mostly but look if you had to bet on the odds right now that Caleb Williams is going to be a better quarterback than CJ strad I’ll take CJ strout that’s he might but that means that he’s insane I

Mean this guy you know he which he might be which he might be which he very well might be but that is the odds are that he isn’t so again they needed everything that they you know he was in a position of rebuilding a horrendous roster left to

Him by Ryan P so was it was a tough spot to be and it was only year two adjust all these things but if you’re like if you are the sharpest knife in the drawer then you do you know identify um the guy that is the stud and in this one

He didn’t he missed but maybe he’s but maybe he thinks that he’s been looking at Caleb this whole time but the other part about that is like look the Panthers lost a lot of tight games this year yeah they there was a huge element of luck in the Bears being in this

Position so that’s a incredible gamble yep and and I guess one that paid off if he was thinking of it that way I have a hard time believing that he was I think he was just looking to add talent and I just think that he didn’t think stoud

Was going to be this good most people didn’t you’d have to be like you know a a a savant which we don’t need him to be right now you just need to identify between May and Williams who do you like who do you like more who you betting

Your life on because if you go back to last year and maybe Bryce young would have been a whole lot better with Bobby slowick and spe specifically in Houston and and not the dysfunction of Carolina but there you go two quarterbacks one worked out and one didn’t and if you

Look at first round quarterbacks that takeen overall you know it’s about it’s a one and4 shot that they become this level or close to this level I don’t think even the Houston Texans would have thought that CJ this good this early where wasn’t he only the second quarterback to lead the

League in both touchdowns and um passing yards per game it’s like him no it’s the third it’s like him Tom Brady and’ 07 and Joel Montana arguable goat arguable goat yeah yeah so yes and Duke $200 Super Chat yes Duke out of the gates thank you duke

What’s up Duke um he says I bet the Packers last night if I have to watch that team do well and be miserable I’m at least going to make money on it that’s said it feels dirty so you guys take it oh he’s giving us the winnings I

Love it my grandfather lived a full life never saw the Cubs win a World Series I’m starting to accept that may be my fate with the bears wow that gives us some another clue on the Duke that is another CL that means or less he’s years

Old yeah he’s well I’m 37 and was born four months 3 months after the Bears won the Super Bowl so the Duke is not an not an old man oh no this is you know one of these days we may have to tie up the person in

This company that knows his identity and and get it out of him I mean someone in this company knows who the Duke is his identity not me really someone does actually know it someone knows yeah Travis 899 thinks that brags is the Duke I promise you Braggs is not the

Duke as much as we really appreciate Gregory’s multiple talents can I throw one more thing out with the Stroud thing there’s no way Greg would have been smart enough to bet on the Packers last night that’s you know what I was looking at the line during the game and it was

About nine and a half like early third quarter and I’m sitting there watching I’m like and I didn’t have the guts the Duke guts to bet it but I’m like there’s no way Dallas is coming back yeah Green Bay looks way better yeah and that would

Have been that would that was easy money and I BW it does it make you jealous that I’m this rich and this young yes it does very much so that is a uh 100% yes I’m also jealous that you could just flaunt it like that too yeah y okay so

Look the Houston Texans this is not the same thing but I’m just thinking about it in relation to the Bears the Houston T Texans last year they drafted stra but they also up to number three to draft Will Anderson which was not looked upon as a smart trade at the time they gave

Up the 12 I disagree I remember sitting there on draft night being like wow they got their quarterback and they got Will Anderson well and there you go but but they the reason they did is they had the draft Capital to do that right while the Bears have a lot of draft Capital

Especially if they trade Justin so the they traded the 12 of the number 33 last year all right that was jir Gibbs in Detroit that was that was Will Will Lis in Tennessee and then they traded a 2024 first round pick and a 2024 third round

Pick that’s a ton they now they got Anderson come back up from 12 yeah right yeah yeah they got Anderson they got the three overall and they got the 105th selection so a third rounder they gave up a ton to move up the reason why I’m bringing it up the

Bears could be this aggressive they could take Caleb at one and then trade up to wherever they need to go pay they have the capital to do it and draft Marvin Harrison Jr yeah they could do that we’ve gotten a lot of super chats about that in the last few

Weeks that would be the fan if you want to win draft night that would do it yeah now when we talk about the Packers a little bit later on the show you’re going to we’re going to bring up a tweet um that I think you want to see and I

Think the key word is patience um when it comes to sustaining uh success uh Philips Stafford here um 199 if PS follows what he did last year he can keep us picking in the top 10 for years even when we are in the playoffs I mean could that is possible

Um at some point though I think you want to take advantage of that pick you have not just keep kicking the can down the road and and now would be the time and we’re going to have teddy Greenstein on later in the week who wrote quarterback dads who sat down with

Caleb’s dad and I’m reading the chapter this weekend and you know when you’re cashing in on a pick you might want to cash in on the guy who was 11 years old and said he wanted to be the greatest quarterback of all time and was getting

Up at 4:30 and working out at 5:30 with high school people changed his diet when he was 11 changed his like girls were asking him to go out no I’ve got to watch tape I mean James hog has had a lifesaver and a candy cane I don’t know

That he’s going to be drafted number one eating this cat is a little bit different I mean I don’t know I I I I would bet on James getting there too but uh you know this this guy all right now the other side of this game I want to we

Do have a lot of games to get through here um maybe the Browns weren’t that good with Joe flacko well Flo turned into a pumpkin we knew it was going to happen it kind of happened against the Bears he threw three interceptions in that game and we’re all like the thing about that

Game we all forget is like Joe flacko wasn’t that good until the end and then all a sudden it was they can’t tackle anyone he threw that absolute ridiculous throw Cooper with crazy anticipation and all of a sudden the Bears lost but I mean if you’re trying to hang your

Hat on anything with that ridiculous loss it was like well the Browns are pretty good and you were in Cleveland like it was a tough game but then they get just blasted by the Texans well yeah I mean I I think the the lesson in this one is that at least

We don’t have Ryan Pace as our GM Cleveland sent Houston six draft picks six MJ next time we have the the ring ceremony you come on out here six all right first and fourth in 22 first and third in 2023 first and fourth in 2024 that’s insane and they by Al also

They gave him a 5year $230 million guaranteed contract for a dude that was spending his life when he wasn’t on the football field doing all sorts of OD activities that we don’t need to go back down I mean think about that and then you play them in the playoffs you got to

Run Joe flacko out there do you know that Joe flacko has more touchdowns in a Browns uniform than Deshawn Watson does that’s amazing that’s goingon to be the worst trade and worst contract I mean in NFL history I think Browns got and there’s been some bad trades they got they ended up with

Kenyan green Damen Pierce Will Anderson tank Dell and they’ve got a first round pick in 24 and a fourth round pick in 24 still to come yeah sick trade good good job all right uh we also got to discuss dolphins and uh Tay Tay and uh the Chiefs here as I

Realize um help me out for two seconds here Karm you’re you’re you’re you’re you’re you’re good hog listen uh we and I thought that by our guy for the record uh Adam P hog had a phenomenal tweet yesterday asking if you were rooting for the Lions that’s definitely not my middle

Initial the P doesn’t stand for powerful that was Poppy I had other P’s Popp in my head before I got to powerful but I got them I’m sure others do too well we’re GNA get to that I’m gonna bring that I’m going to bring that sweet

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Quarter and here especially when it came to the Dolphins everyone knows I like Mike McDaniel Big Mike McDaniel fan I’ve really enjoyed the Hard Knocks in season I usually don’t watch The Hard Knocks in season because I don’t have enough time I watch every episode of this one with

The dolphins it’s been very entertaining it’s been good I like following the team they’re fun to watch uh especially offensively but anybody who’s been paying attention to this team they’re falling off the map again for the second straight year in December they got housed by the Ravens they had to win the

That game against the bills in their own stadium last week knowing that if they lost they had to go to Kansas City instead of hosting the Steelers think about that instead of hosting the Steelers you have to go to Kansas City to play Chief to play Patrick mahes to

Play Travis Kelce oh and then on top of that reality it’s going to be6 a kickoff right and it and getting colder we’re playing you’re from Miami we’re playing at night so the uh the give a [ __ ] factor to quote Mike McDaniel yeah had to be extremely

Low he talks about that all the time you see on Hard Knocks and I I feel for him a little bit because they they’ve been showing a lot of footage from his team meetings on that show you could tell he’s running out of things to say like you could just sort

Of tell that his he’s I think he’s a good motivator he talks a lot about adversity but it’s like how many weeks of adversity can you have come up that you’re sort of creating yourself and I just the spread was what five and a half I think it was down to

Four yeah I I’m like it was four at one point I don’t know I I really regret it not bet than that one because in the under you knew you knew Miami wasn’t scoring yeah so and then what what has to do with the quarterbacks now this Tua

Situation and I had people tweeting me about this too it’s like basically like Do You Believe In Tua and like I think this is a this is where I do think there’s some parallels maybe perhaps with Justin Fields Tua is obviously a good quarterback like he can be he’s good enough

For a team to be like yes this is the guy I want to extend this is the guy I want to bet on um but how good is he you know what I mean now he’s very different from Justin fields and how they play two was all about anticipatory throws gets the ball

Out fast um and obviously can’t run nearly as well as as Justin Fields can but they’re in they haven’t paid to it yet and and I I don’t know that that’s a slam dunk to just give him insane amount of money I mean he he impressed me big time

His transformation from where he started to where he got to and obviously they went out and helped him a ton by getting guys like Tyreek and I enjoyed the that was the best part of that game when Tyreek got in the end zone you thought

For at least one second it was going to be a game and he got his revenge and all of that but you also you I think logically you look at too like you are not the reason that we are good you are using the parts around you well yeah

And there there’s value in that you don’t stink but you’re not elite elite and if I’m going to pay you elite elite then I got to see that you actually Elevate players around you not just you know throw the ball to Jaylen Wadd and Tyreek and like you know most

Quarterbacks can do this so I don’t know I I but ultimately I I like how he plays I like how the ball comes out I like that you know you play like that you’re most likely you’re not going to get hurt um but I I just thought that that

Game maybe you can blame the elements but and um who did that game Saturday night that was too and uh Jason Garrett oh I gotta say Jason Garrett I thought was solid Saturday night he’s usually not and there were a lot of people complain but I actually thought it was fine um

But Jason Garrett made that point a couple times dur in the game which was Mahomes looks completely unfazed by this weather did you pay for peacock oh yeah I paid yeah you pay the peacock do you have peacock or did you pay for the peacock I already had it you already had

It yeah I already got it you already had it too yeah yeah I need to make sure I got to see I’m starting to question how big of a Northwestern fan you really are had to make sure I saw my Taylor Swift cutaways all the Big 10 basketball games

Are on peacock at least they were during the non-conference yeah Jordan cornette one of the hosts in studio Jord got Big 10 Network on my YouTube TV I don’t need no peacock I know but did Northwestern play a couple games on PE Indiana Purdue is is exclusively on peacock this week

As they of course promoted I might have Miss maybe I was maybe they were home games I don’t know maybe I forget maybe maybe you were there yeah yeah no Wisconsin’s had a bunch of games on on the uh the old peacock I keep wanting to call it the

Nickname everyone calls it why does no one say it out loud what are we not saying everybody calls everybody on your text change knows what the nickname for peacock is I is it the and then the last half of that word yes but no one ever I don’t see

Anybody tweet that but everybody I know says it out loud I like I like to add a P with an aposte yeah the [Laughter] peock it is a fascinating name the peacock okay my nine-year-old’s in this room somewhere and I can’t see him so he’s got his headphones on and he’s

Playing Blitz one of our great yeah yeah he’s back there playing plug his headphones into the NFL Blitz game you even do that I have no idea he looks like hey know how to figure that out I mean yeah he I I’d like to personally uh not to

Uh I’d like to thank Danny Parkins for uh having the [ __ ] at his house so I didn’t have to get the [ __ ] myself how’s that H there it is you went to Parkins house to watch a game I it was a big it was a big night where’s my

Invite this was a this was this was a long in the works you know situation did you help him uh write out that tweet that everyone hated this weekend I loved that tweet and I supported that tweet and I actually did have a huge impact in that tweet because I was complaining to

Him about what happened and he just decided to tweet it so and then I sat out and didn’t didn’t come I’ve already actually forgotten that tweet I know I hated it but what was that again I just was like why is he basically said he it’s a valid point of course they boo

Jerry Krauss fans don’t like him yeah that was on the bull1 % on the Bulls I agree with no it was 99.6% on the Bulls what what do they think was going to happen I’m not I’m not defending how it played out I’m just saying what did they think was going to

Happen right I mean I I will say that and then they’re going to cut to her yeah I did let’s put Jerry kuss on the screen who’s been booed at every ring ceremony for a hundred years and then after 10 seconds we’re going to cut to

His wife and leave her on the screen and borderline zoom in on her until Ron Harper sits there it’s like consoling her would you get her off the screen or never put her on the screen what are you doing again I’m not defending the booing I just think it’s

Like my favorite part was uh that like the people arguing that oh no I wasn’t booing her I was booing Jerry cross and so like people on Twitter like so you’re you’re booing a dead man yes that’s that makes it better that’s your that’s your argument if they would you boo Joe

Paternal not that this the same thing I’m just saying I would like there’s some dead people that do deserve to be booed age I’m just saying like the people being like no no no I was just booing a dead guy like I feel like that

Is not exactly the arent it was it was they saw they’re not thinking about if he’s alive or if he’s dead they saw him it’s a visceral reaction period would the Blackhawks fans you’re a huge Hawk fan Lawrence correct well they did a speech the the sons of Bill

Warts and when they brought up Bill wartz he was long gone that place rung out in booze to the end of the Moon I mean I I nearly punched bill wz on the street once back in the so look when and weird passby when when you know Long

Long Live Jerry but whenever he’s brought up at at white sock or or bulls down the road they ain’t going to be giving him a standing ovation yeah it’s just this I mean right wrong or whatever it’s these are these are just dude fans

Are nuts we we’re all nuts I’m nuts I I do agree with the idea that that was that could have been a much more nuanced discussion of why it happened and how it all happened and by the way just bottom line that whole thing was a disaster so

Stupid just I I mean how you do anything like that Ring of Honor and the whole discussion doesn’t start with what day can Michael Jordan be there let’s start there right and if he can’t be then we cross out all of those dates we don’t plan around when Steve Kerr’s coming to

Town with the Warriors Love Steve Kerr one of my favorite Bulls ever don’t care when’s Michael there and by the way whatever Michael is there let’s do it then and the other people that come too they get announced yeah what Luke Longley came from Australia and didn’t

Get announced he came to from Australia to hang out with Randy Brown and never never to be announced someone in the chat said it was Dicky Simkins there yeah that just made me laugh for some reason all right back on wait hold on let’s knock the Super Chat out of the

Way yeah uh proper J $5 thank you kmen hog for speaking some sense about Krauss what on Earth did they expect stop condemning the fans for failures of leadership it was the worst job in stadium ever by any franchise I think I could make that argument it was it was

Pretty bad it was pretty bad um all right anyway sad goodbye for me to Mike McDaniel the Dolphins enjoyed them very much this year was hoping they go on a longer run than they did and uh it it didn’t happen um meanwhile if you’re Kevin Warren watching that

Game or if you’re Kevin Warren watching the Buffalo Bills game get postponed and how they’re literally having volunteers right now what are we 3 hours from kickoff they still don’t have the seats uncovered with a foot of snow people in Buffalo you put a roof on The Stadium 10

Out of 10 times and everything we learned this weekend proves that you do that I don’t did you see you know Kansas City you know Kansas City very well you know how loyal those fans are how great those fans are how awesome Arrowhead is when they panned out and they actually

Showed the whole stadium it was very empty in the upper deck for a playoff game you don’t want empty seats in your home stadium if they had played these games this weekend was Saturdays when the temperature crashed right so by kickoff Saturday night it would have been terrible if they played yesterday at

Soldier Field it would have been horrible I don’t think you need to convince Kevin Warren that he’s got to put a a no but I need to convince you well look I do like Bears traditions and steamy breath and all of the things steamy breath whatever you call you like

Steamy breath I like a good steamy cloudy mustache covered in boogers yeah I love looking at Andy Reid what he looks like a wallrus with uh coming out of the Arctic Ocean yes with with ice off his mustache that was phenomenal blow your nose but

Look I I don’t I I I could get with let’s have some nice cre creature comence and put the roof on there and do what they do up in Minnesota make it look like it’s sunny and all those things cuz you know what they were talking about in Detroit last night

Right that it was the loudest how awesome that place was last night the Jared Goff chant was sweet yeah that everything about that game was amazing that was a freaking that was a great Sunday night of entertainment thank you Detroit seriously I know I’m jumping ahead here uh but yes you’re

Right two degrees wind rain snow whatever it sucks that all that sucks it’s it’s not fun I you know back in the day when things were a little bit different weatherwise I I remember as a kid going out there and Bears Vikings I remember going to that game in like 86

Or whatever it was and I’m sure people can remember going to colder games I what’s the coldest Bears game you ever went to um whatever doesn’t matter the what was the the buus I remember my my dad and brother I have a vivid memory I

Was too young but they went to the game Payton had 275 yards against the Vikings which it was super Freez I remember them just leaving the house and having all the blankets in the world and everything I mean listen i’ I vended at Soldier Field selling beer in the upper deck in

The corner getting there at 9:00 in the morning having to wear gloves that had like your fingers cut out so I could do the money it was it was brutal would I have liked to have made my money indoors yes I would have but but you know I I I

I do I will miss the elements at the same time when they eventually build this Dome Hogue that you’re going to get and you’ll love it and I will too but I’ll also have missed the old days okay fair enough hey it’s getting easier for businesses to switch to electric

Vehicles Karm that’s something we can all get behind for the health of the planet and for the well-being of all of us who share it that is exactly right Adam hog and that is why as we sit here on this fine beautiful freezing horrible day the electric grid is something that

We all need to get involved with because it is evolving to meet your cleaner energy needs as we all move with confidence Lawrence toward an electric tomorrow whether you have one delivery van or a whole Fleet of shipping trucks Comet can help guide you to make the

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KT we I mean our family good things happen is growing and beautiful and that is got an extension Conor Bard beautiful got an extension yeah after announcing so I got invited to go to the February 9th Hawk game okay stream of Consciousness just blurting out in the microphone

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Apply please go to this link to get that c empiretoday.com chgo for details empiretoday.com chgo for details I love Empire today all right Packers at Cowboys yesterday happened let’s move on H yeah how about that Jordan love guy he’s so good oh perfect passer rating it’s not even the passer rating

Him and stout had basically the exact same stats they’re both 16 for 21 274 yards versus 272 3 and0 on the touchdown interception honestly if you just I and I hate that I’m say2 yeah I hate that I’m saying this but if you just watched like three

Plays and the way he drops back and the way he floats around back there and the way he sets his back foot and the way he sees the field and then I mean the dude is just and we saw it for the record Bears fans we didn’t want to admit it

But we saw it in week one the dude looked very poised and was Finding dudes open in the end zone in the the Red Zone under pressure and just flicking it like nothing and it’s like uhoh this is problematic guy’s been here for 5 seconds and he already looks super

Veteran comfortable and now in the playoffs on the road he’s doing it yeah it’s impressive um it’s very upsetting yeah although conversely Jerry Jones tiar is amazing yeah how about Mike McCarthy that had to be painful to get blasted by your former team I mean and maybe lose

Your job at fired yet yeah I mean seriously I haven’t been on Twitter while we’re doing the show but he’s going to get fired there’s no way I’m sure the chat will let us know if that happens during the show but it’s got to be coming I mean I tweeted during the

Game I think Bill belich was will be coaching the Cowboys by the fourth quarter I saw that tweet and saw a lot of tweets like that a lot of halftime where going to go right I mean he’s friends with Jerry so there’s there so there’s that but it’s

Also like is he signing up for the Jerry act it’s a I mean he is that how many options is Bill bich going to have by the way and I haven’t said it and I’m not complaining about it but Bill bellich is out there and we just stuck with the

Flu just there’s some part about that that just seems ridiculous the arguably the greatest coach of all time fully available no no I like you Matt Eber flu it’s a nightmare so if you’re Ryan Po’s watching this game yesterday and you see what Jordan loves doing you absolutely have to be paying attention

To that because they might just have Hall of Fame quarterback number three I can’t believe I’m just saying that already I probably shouldn’t go that far but he sure damn looks good at minimum they seem to have a very good quarterback that you’re gonna have to go toe-to-toe

With you you already saw what Justin fields did against that guy this year twice you’re going to run it back it’s just another data point that I’m struggling to accept that that Ryan po going back to the theme of this show do you trust him is going to be like yep

That’s what we’re going to do yeah I look it sh the evaluation should be about Justin and about Caleb and now what the Packers have but when you do I guess put in the you know packing in the last part of that good fat bowl that

You’re going to smoke here by the way we’re could to be in some shootouts with these with these guys so you you might need to be able to compete with that but I I I would say to Ryan poles like look when the Packers drafted him number one

They traded up from 30 to 26 to do it they drafted a dude out of Utah State they drafted him when they had Aaron roders that’s obviously long documented it was not po the point that I’m trying to make it was in popular in any way

Shape or form and I’m not saying because maybe the easiest thing to do would be the popular move here and and taking the one pick which and drafting Caleb which seems like it’s getting more and more momentum even with the like the most di hard Justin Fields people

But I do think there’s a lesson in there like Brian gut basically stood alone he was willing to do something that was unpopular with Aaron probably was unpopular in a lot of parts of that locker room and he also knew that he had to wait a long time for it to pay off

And he still did it and he’s looking pretty damn good today yeah now I would still argue they should have traded Rogers earlier and now they’ve wasted a lot of I would agree Jordan Love’s rookie contract but and and players that year that were taken after love looking

Back at the draft they could have had Michael Pitman they could have had T Higgins they could have had Jonathan Taylor yeah would they have one other Super Bowl with any of those guys T Higgins and Aaron get a little closer yeah um and this was another Miss opportunity for me

Because I really like Packers plus seven and a half all week and again just for some reason forgot to bet it the Cowboys have literally lost outright the last three times they’ve been seven-point favorites in the playoffs also um the the Packers now have more playoff wins

In that Stadium than the Cowboys do love it love it a and like they’ve been playing like if you’ve been watching the Packers like you shouldn’t be surprised by this they’ve been getting getting better now on the flip side if you’re the Bears you probably feel pretty good

About what your defense did that in that game because the Packers looked Unstoppable yesterday and the bears at least held them to 17 points even though Jordan love played well on that game yeah and they how many field goals do they miss and like I love bears fans cuz

I put out the Tweet yesterday M or does it feel like we’re far away people like yeah we only lost by eight that game was not that close the Packers were the better team the Packers were light years ahead of them in both games you played

That has to be part of your Calculus both games you played against the Packers this year right you they were the better team from start to finish right they’re they’re still better than us which is nauseating but I do but that being said Cowboys with the two seat they were

At home the Bears did play them better than Dallas played them y so and and the Bears defense played them significantly better so there is there is some positive going on here too all right I want to bring up this uh tweet from Andrew Brant who of course was a

Longtime Packers executive he now um basically covers the business of the NFL sports to be honest he’s got a pretty good uh Sunday newsletter you can sign out for if you’re interested but just just take this tweet in um there’s a lot of truth to it he says

Realize I can be annoying here regarding the Packers but heard complaints on the pack way quote the Packer way for so long and the Packer way is this draft and develop there are no quick fixes trust your scouting coaches unafraid to play Young Players that’s something mieo does all

Right flu I got you flu by the way so far these four things I’ve said are seem to be in align with what Ryan poles preaches draft and develop no quick fixes trust your scouting that was something polls was talking about last week coaches are unafraid to play Young Players that’s

Flo he’s proven that sign core players to early extensions I don’t know that they’ve done that did it with KT didn’t do it with Jaylen going to pay through a little bit through the nose for Jaylen but that’s okay at least get it done he’s also kind of early on in this thing

So okay fine maybe a little bit of a pass there and then this last one draft a quarterback before you need one seems pretty important point in this bullet point exercise I I mean if he’s I’m not saying Paul’s out here doing it the Packer way

But he seems to be hitting a lot of those boxes and that last one seemed significant well at the time I think there were two people that liked Jordan love that much Brian guden cson and and Adam hog you were a big love proponent as you

Reminded me before the show today I I had forgotten that well I uh yeah I mean I he wasn’t top of the list but I had a late first round grade on him I thought he now unlike other quarterbacks including Caleb Williams so I think Caleb Williams wherever he ends up is

Going to play right away I think he’s going to start week one um Jordan love was a sit guy he needed he did need time to develop um and obviously that’s that’s proven out to be pretty good so I I actually I I had a uh I wrote I was

Working for NBC at the time and I wrote a bold prediction column like a couple days before the draft and one of those bold predictions was the Packers will draft a quarterback and they should draft Jordan love he’ll be there it makes a lot of sense he can sit behind

Aaron roders and it’s going to be a perfect situation for him that might be the greatest job in media history you nailed Jordan love and they’ll be he’ll be there that’s a good job by you Nick did a good job with his Mahomes one he’s one of the few that wanted Mahomes we’ve

Gone back to that good point Nick Nick greater than hog fine but hog H right there what’s that equal okay equal is fine let’s let’s give her Karm let’s give everybody a trophy Hey listen I told you that uh I’ve told you a million brilliant things we don’t need to re I

Mean everybody knows those so we don’t need to go through that again good point yeah yeah uh well but that’s a good job by you buddy yeah but it’s still I’m sure it doesn’t feel great today from a bear’s perspective I was going to say it

Doesn’t it’s horrible I wish I was wrong about it um but it apparently is looking true all right so they but by the way let’s remember too just if we want to add pour a little one more drop assault in the old wound here Packers were three and six

Man they were nobody no one had them in the playoffs let alone going on the road and winning and Jordan love looking like I don’t know the best quarterback of the going in the playoffs right now that’s I mean that’s not NE that’s obviously not true but he play they’re

Nine and a half point in dogs to San Francisco next week I think I like them to cover at least it’s a real the way they’re playing right now I I don’t hate it at all it’s a real good defense and you would you would think that I also think

The 49ers are machine right now though well the ners are uh the Packers bogey team the way the Packers are the Cowboys bogey team yeah the other True by the way is there not is there another Bobby SLO on that San Francisco staff that we can be talking to Clint kubak okay let’s

Go game coordinator can we just can let’s just do that then because that’s looking jez we will spend more time this week I promise talking about these OC candidates in fact it’s on the docket for tomorrow um but we did want to react to some of these playoff games what they

Have to do with the Bears there’s one more to go Rams at Cowboys last night this was where you mentioned that poll I Lions what I I’m sorry you said Dallas don’t worry we’ve gotten rid of the Cowboys already they suck everybody’s got it you know why I actually wrote it

In the rundown wrong I actually wrote Cowboys Rams at Lions yes that’s that’s the game I watched last night I believe shout out to Eminem um I enjoyed the intro from Eminem did you see the intro was pretty good pretty solid um shout out to the 313 someone made a joke that

He looked like like Ryan day as he’s got that very dark beard oh I love that he was in the crowd I love that he’s a huge Barry Sanders fan I that’s just cool anyway Calvin Johnson was there yep um so I put a poll out because I had this

Sneaking suspicion that there’s more Bears fans out there rooting for the Lions than you might think and I put a poll out yesterday morning for Bears fans are you rooting for the Lions 14,000 people responded to Hog’s poll and last I looked 44% said yes that’s correct which was is even higher than

What I thought I thought it would be like a third I was expecting 60 60 were rooting for the Lions yeah was they’re the Lions you’re not worried about them being good for a long time they’ll be fine for now a very polarizing poll yes a lot of

Bears friends like can’t root against the r can’t root for a rival and then others were like I don’t know man they kind of deserve it it’s been a long road they hav want a playoff game in 32 years they’re not a rival of what like I’m like yeah but that’s what the

Bears are basically now I I know but like at least like you know the Bears and Packers have had playoff moments that are extremely painful that you know speak not just to the Rivalry itself but actually moments of visceral hate Rogers and why I still own you and all that stuff the

Lions I don’t know I just don’t have the same feeling for the lions that I do for Green Bay or anywhere close really yeah I mean I loved Rodney Pete and uh Robert Clark back in ’92 on my fantasy team they were fantastic I mean I 88 what

Year was that’ 92 I don’t know listen I enjoyed watching Barry I’ll admit that right here yeah bar 100% oh my techmo that was amazing for the record I was kind of leaning towards the Rams in the game like once the game started I was kind of rooting for okay there you go

But but I did find it I did find it fascinating I was just curious what fans thought and even afterwards you saw including for myself when the game was over like okay good for Detroit for this this one night you guys celebrate Jared that had to feel amazing for Jared Goff

To beat his former team how beaten down he was you could see for a guy doesn’t show a lot of emotion it was pretty impressive by the way Jared gof he was not the best quarterback this weekend but he sure played damn well and for the

Meaning for how much it meant he is our draftking Sportsbook player of the week go Jared gof 22 to 2 7 277 yards one touchdown the quarterback rating of 121.301 point8 he he played great huge throw to amanra to win it that was awesome I also I did not like the

Holding penalty called on that that Hutchinson got I didn’t like it at all and I really didn’t like the non-pass interference call when puka akua was getting tugged on the that Not only was that a pi I thought it was also a defenseless receiver hit the guy who

Came in over the top like I mean it it was like the refs were buying into the Detroit story and the crowd had an impact on it oh that’s why you should put a roof on your Stadium okay great get gets a crowd pressure pressure from fans that you you

Probably get that call in La although that game would have probably been attended by 75% Lions fans out there cuz California fans suck yeah I said it um but yeah that that the I hate when refs have that big of an impact on games they had a big impact in

In that game uh by the way shout out to puka naua too because he was outstanding and unbelievable that he’s I stupidly put Cooper Cup in my player prop parlay I had another one too I Cooper instead of Puka like Cooper cup what is it 2021

What am I doing yeah and that would it hit too cuz I had second one where Lions win and my second one was uh Rams to cover and Cooper to score yeah didn’t happen I would have had both but n too bad um hey uh meanwhile you have Steelers at Bill

Starting in two and a half hours from now they are still asking fans to come in and shovel out the stadium but the game will be played and a lot of those fans might be sitting on snow Bill’s fans going out there shovel snow for their team and doing it with

Their shirts off who are these people they’re just I mean seriously put them in the Hall of Fame they’re they’re brags is what they are I’m going what’s the temperature right now in Buffalo it’s like 15 it’s not fun it’s warmer than here though have you ever been to Buffalo I actually have

Not the uh I forget the exact circumstances when the Bears played there a few years ago I didn’t go I mean I went in the winter time for a radio interview for a job that’s going to pay me $200 a week that I would have taken

Taken if they would have given to me that’s which speaks to 200 a week 200 a week I was going to take it in Buffalo because things were so dire at the time was like well it’s a shot maybe I’ll take it I don’t know if I can but I get

Out there and I’m like this sound’s horrible this place is this place is a nightmare well they could just jump on the tables that are on fire and warm themselves up today be nice another reason have a roof we shoveling out all that now okay and then Eagles at bucks

Tonight played in beautiful Tampa I mean are the Eagles going to just complete their collapse or what no AJ it’s on the table man it’s still hilarious to me that Matt Patricia’s coaching that defense tonight especially in the context of what happened last night in Detroit if if the Eagles lose is there

Any world where Nick serani gets fired there’s been like whispers about that I know that’s why I’m asking it I’m hearing people say it and so I I don’t buy it but I think I’d take him over Matt Eber he also just hired Matt Patricia to coach’s defense I still

Can’t I just cannot I will not get over that shouldn’t shouldn’t have done that yeah I mean that’s a fireable fence right there it kind of isane I don’t think even kind of and somehow ownership and the Eagles were like yes that’s acceptable even though we put up 500 yards against his defense

In the Super Bowl okay um we got a lot of super chats to get to should we fly through these super it up there was also one piece of news with the Bears over the week and we have to talk about Cliff Stein Isaac seagull

$5 Karm what was that face you made on the NBC Sports Chicago video with with my guy Matt veram the SI guy I have no idea what you’re talking about but it was it was a loving face to the Great veram so uh who knows this knows his stuff he

Does thank you for watching kmen every place John D $5 my favorite Duo perfect yin and yang after watching love this weekend I’m in on drafting whoever the Bears want a quarterback love jf1 but think it’s the best John thank you appreciate you saying that do you feel a

Really appreciate it John do you feel a movement going on right oh I’ve I’ve been saying this we’re only a week out I’ve been saying this I’m going to say it every day the farther farther we get away from Justin Field’s last game and the more Caleb Williams highlights

And all this stuff gets put out there and the more Bears fans see it there’s going to be a shift it’s already started I’m not saying it’s going to be unanimous it’s not going to be unanimous but there’s definitely going to be a shift it it feels like there’s that

Guy’s not shifting that guy is not shifting our GM Jake Flanigan is walking away as fast from possible from the show right now to not shift there will be no shift and that’s fine it’s coming though it’s coming by the way yes we are aware Caleb Williams has

To declare today um couple things to know about that okay it does not have to be public it’s literally paperwork you have to file to the league office which I assume needs to be in by 4:00 today because that’s when most League deadlines are four I’m sorry four

O’clock Eastern time 3 o’cl Central um and maybe it’s till midnight who knows it doesn’t matter there doesn’t have to be a public announcement the league on the 19th which is later this week will put out the list so even if he never announces it for the

Next few days he doesn’t have to but it will be announced by the 19th by the league when they put out the list of underclassmen who are eligible for the draft look the guy has four trademarks with his name on it and his and his Silhouettes and all these things he’s

Waiting to the end at least in my mind to build out any drama get more attention and he’s going to declare and he’s not the whole won’t go to Chicago thing thing if he believes in himself the way I believe that he believes in himself he can’t do it in a better place

Right what he he would be this this is the biggest win of all time in in in in the teddy chapter we’ll talk to he he says I’m not a businessman I am a business comma that’s Jay-Z man that’s Jay-Z yeah on the and which to that

Point I look at this more of do the bearers want to put up with that right than the other way around right um and I think that that’s those are questions that have to be asked and answered which was all the talk about Ryan poles last week talking about the human being

Aspect of this because if Drake May 1B to onea and he doesn’t he’s not all about now on the other hand here’s an aspect that I think is worth mentioning too Kevin Warren knows a lot of people he’s created a friendship with LeBron James speaking of business LeBron

James I don’t think Kevin not only do I think Kevin Warren’s not going to have a problem with any of that I think you would embrace it you have to embrace it when they’re that talented you’re not if you if they run away from him because they don’t

Like the off the field he goes somewhere and he’s dominant and he’s got a little bit of divice to them yeah that another organization tolerates but they’re winning a ton of games that’s just another bad look the only the only look Caleb Williams is going to be in the

Draft he’s going to be eligible the only scenario in which I could see him and I don’t know this for a fact maybe Teddy will have a better idea but maybe he really wants to go to Washington because he’s from there and that would be the only thing it’s but I

Mean if okay if he really comes out and says these things then I I will move off him as fast as anything can we just quickly debunk that stupid tweet that was sent we to talk about but like like people like ran with it em AO thing it

Was a par yeah emanel AO did a whole video on it guys when you read stuff like that think about the logic behind it like how could you even get assurances on J January 15th that the Bears are not going to draft you they don’t know that did you see that AO like

Went back at the guy who’s like why you know why would you post this it’s if it’s not real and he’s like I did it for uh engagement on Tik Tok it’s just Tik Tok it’s not a serious thing I’m like what a stupid thing to say yeah that was

Stupid love his brother but that was a really dumb thing to say yeah yeah chos I’m a fan overall Sam well Sam’s our guy I love Sam AO he’s awesome um but yeah I that was just everybody that was not real take a deep breath I find it really hard to believe

That if the Bears want Caleb Williams that Caleb Williams would not want to come to this situation right now I think a few situations are better if you’re trying to figure out long-term success especially in a big Market um so there you go Chris Malone 199 Gary

Kubak special advisor Clint OC let’s go Chris Joe calcagno 499 if you look at the quarterback decisions through a three-year prism I would gamble on Williams and the hall last year rather than CJ they have to take Caleb thank you Joe uh that’s you are speaking Ryan ps’s language straight Trucking 10 bucks

Appreciate you it’s all fugazi that’s an amazing reference to uh oh Leonardo Dicaprio and Matthew MCC and oh yeah the fugazi it’s you know the movie in uh Wolf of Wall Street Wolf of Wall Street thank you it’s all fugazi fugazi P’s got lucky the Panthers didn’t

Take CJ because maybe the Panthers go to the playoffs you’re right about that we passed up another franchise quarterback and the Panthers picks uh now sitting in the 20s so no Caleb right there was a lot of luck involved there straight Trucking you’re on it Juan De La Cruz

499 sign JJ sign Chris Jones take Caleb and uh aduni Trey jf1 for Lindstrom I don’t know what that is is that a a lineman sounds like a lineman oh the um um yeah yeah yeah is that the Iowa guy l lingren no yeah the

Um H cuz it’s m yes I I believe he’s talking about the um Falcons all lineman how’s this one great idea like it let’s go let’s do it uh Air Base air for bease air base trade Fields trade the one pick draft a QB in the later later in the draft and sign

Kirk Cousins Super Bowl no we’re not doing that but I but I like Kur cousins we’re going to be we’re going to look more longterm than that Adrien Shake 499 Texans didn’t think he would be this good remember they wanted to trade up to one for Bryce young then two through nine Carolina

Still think we we should take Caleb there you Adrian you you are absolutely right that I’m sure the Texans didn’t know they were getting a player this good but I don’t if they wanted to trade up to one I think it was for Stout though not for yeah I would agree with

That um but I don’t think they you know I like my Kurt Cousins on the Vikings where I know the Vikings are not going to win a Super Bowl that’s where I like Kurt Cousins maybe we’ll get a nice long Kirk Cousins Minnesota extension for you

Jonathan Flores 499 I vote no for the simple fact that polls never even exercise the thought of a new head coach just like the QBs in this coming draft there’s big head coaching names out there yeah I mean that’s a big move and P just going to be judged by it no

Question about it um and I think we can officially end the whole Ryan poles didn’t hire Matt EO thing yeah because he’s now double down on it if that was remotely true then Flo wouldn’t be here right now Flo is Po’s guy 9999 Michael rodino I think

Po’s made the right call making the trade instead of drafting at number one last year on the trust question we need to know whether he had stout or young at the top of the QB board that would be an interesting thing to find out Michael

Yeah that would be nice to know I know Braggs has text me that pretty much once a day the elite Greg Braggs to how he will be forever reference now is Greg Braggs Elite is Joe flacko Elite Brandon tro Janowski $10 what’s up sweet name what’s up Brandon name another Bears

Quarterback that had Bears fans lineup signs to halice chant name and game clear support from teammates they could just say it’s up to the GM without touting Justin can Caleb fill the shoes Brandon you are absolutely right in his popularity there’s no doubt about that but that’s

Not really how the bear should make the decision but you’re right Dominic fornino 199 I don’t understand how fans can be okay with waiting hoping and wanting Justin to turn in quote the guy in year four we need to shoot our shot at quarterback until we find greatness we cannot settle for

Good Dominic you are a very valid point and if I had to take one thing away from the four playoff games so far that’s how I feel like you you don’t want Joe Flaco you see these quarterbacks and it’s like I want one of those right and another

Thing NE a Bears quarterback that left the Bears and went elsewhere and was great hasn’t happened it’s cuz we don’t draft the right quarterback it’s not because quarterback back come here to die I don’t know I thought who Kyle Orton was amazing that’s a good point Orton was

King 999 from Splash how about blaming gsy for Justin’s uh College backup developing faster than he developed fields in three years and giving CJ a line in receivers day one could have had slck gsy was the wrong pick of not Fields uh I’m sure Justin Fields would agree with

You that Bobby SLO would have helped him more than Luke getsy what are you laugh in at over there did I read it terribly no no no just the that’s not how the timeline of I guess you could have had slowick but like not really I mean Mike

McDaniel was still in San Francisco then nobody was screaming and then yeah and then course KY Shanahan has to replace his coaches every year people were not screaming to fire Luke gety last year very few were Dan Hampton was uh$ five from Eric Eric Freer I trust PS if he

Keeps Fields trades back to take Marvin Harrison Jr and grabs cam Ward later in the draft cam Ward just committed to Miami yeah that’s the only problem with that Super Chat yeah cam Ward declared for the draft then didn’t really declare which goes back to what we were talking

About with Caleb what matters is the paperwork not um you know what you announced on Twitter because cam W announced he was going to the draft and then yesterday transferred to Miami so whoops yeah that’s yeah shout out Mario Chris Ball all right quickly Cornell Bryan 499

Fields will take the first shot and request for a trade after the combine watch remember this Hogue by the way at tricky trips you suck okay I wouldn’t rule that out at some point I mean we were having that discussion last night in the Discord which uh become a

Die hard it’s a great choice hang out with us would you know would he rather be in Atlanta yep no I don’t think I don’t think he likes his team though I do think he likes his team here Allan Johnson $5 hul if Caleb comes in and meets with the Bears and

Says I do not want to play for Chicago what are you doing as a general manager just like CJ said last year okay CJ said that because he didn’t want to ruffle Justin they had nothing to do with Chicago he was answering a question at the combine to a reporter and was

Like that’s Justin’s team because that Justin’s his guy if the Bears wanted to pick number one overall he would have gladly taken the job to answer the question though if he really was saying that he doesn’t want to be here and you sat down with him and

He and he that he did that game I’m not taking him you can’t do it yeah that’s I mean it’s a real tough spot I would I would say dude what are your concerns let’s hear him yeah I mean you try to maybe if you really think

He’s that good you try to negotiate and figure it out but um all right uh Justin $5 if he didn’t want to go to the Bears he he could declare for the supplemental NFL’s not going to allow that Justin that won’t happen yeah I don’t the NFL

Does not have to allow you um permission into the supplemental draft and I don’t think that they want to set a precedent there um so I wouldn’t worry about that too much crazy Ace uh he was in the Discord last night appreciate y’all for hanging out in the Discord with

Appreciate you helping us out crazy as you should been on the payroll and then Bear Down Omaha $2 finally become a die hard today let’s go she finally became a die oh you finally became a die be on Omaha way to go man thanks brother wait

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I’m I heard that they actually had the game going like they are watching the game in the yeah crazy Ace put the game in the channel somehow because crazy Ace apparently is more talented than any of us that may not be legal but if you don’t have the peock maybe that’s a way

To watch the playoff game or you know yeah no that never happened right nothing was going on I’m sure Bears fans going to lose their minds when um Ian Cunningham and Jim Harbaugh are running the Chargers together talk about in the Die Hard in the Discord die um we’ll talk more about

The cliff Stein thing tomorrow offense coordinator candidates as well uh we might have a special guest coming in tomorrow as well poy Poppy the puppy’s here poppy is asleep I can see she’s very cute just waiting for she’s done a great job today not a peep that’s what

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40 Comments

  1. Poles will make the right choice. 5th year on Fields, Draft Harrison 1st and best Olinemen at 9 and then trade back up into the 1st round and take best Olinemen available.

  2. I don’t get why this gentleman on the right is harping over Stroud this long… if we did draft him, he would’ve played in Luke Getsy’s offence, with clay pool and Mooney, with a worse line than field had this year, with a worse defence than we had this year. Thinking back on last years draft is literally the biggest waste of time as a bears fan.

  3. No I don’t trust Poles until he can prove he knows how to evaluate a franchise quarterback because he wasn’t “Blown Away “ by CJ Stroud but is blown away by Justin Fields. I have no trust in Poles

  4. We need to fix the interior of the line. Fields or another QB that middle of line is a problem. QBs that won this weekend had good interior lines.

  5. ❓Why focus on unknowns when we KNOW the last 2 OCs were trash!? Makes QB choices moot!! Let's discuss new OC candidates first!! 🤷‍♂️

  6. If Poles passes on CW and he lights it up next season and we are still in the same spot, Ryan Poles and Eberflus are both getting fired

  7. Carm and Hogg,,I agree with you on the shift toward Calib Williams. I think the Bears ruined JF's early chances to start his career as a star. I like him. But I do think it's time to move on and hope the Bears don't waste another rookie QB.

  8. Find the Cam Newton comments. He called Tua, Goff, Dak and some of the other guys Game Managers, not Game Changers. That’s really true at a high level. Fields is same same…. NFL you need a game changer.

  9. I love how these asshats with their shows, podcasts , whatever indulge in revisionist history!!! I would love to know what these dipshits were saying last year.
    That’s what they do though , I guess. They never admit when they are wrong because they always sit on the fence until things shake out , and then let everyone know how they would have done things !!! Makes me sick!!

  10. I say you trade for Washington’s or New England’s 1st round pick this year.

    Justin, 2025 2nd round pick, and 2024 4th round pick for Washington’s or New England’s 2024 1st round pick.

    Or

    Justin, Jaylon Johnson, and 2025 4 round pick for Washington’s or New England’s 2024 1st round pick.

    Bears draft:
    Caleb
    MHJ
    9th pick Bowers or best center available.

    Who wouldn’t like this offense below with a new OC?
    Caleb Willams
    Khalil Herbert
    DJ Moore
    MHJ
    Cole Kmet
    Bowers or best rookie center
    Darnell Wright
    Braxton Jones
    Tevon Jenkins

  11. Move on from this topic/ about not drafting a QB in the first round. The plan was to build the team through the draft. Shit is old and starting to smell. Root for Texans if you such a Justin Field hater. You wouldn't be talking all this negative shit if the coaches wouldn't of blown all them game leads.

  12. Does Carm realize he just laid out the same plan as houston if we keep justin and draft a qb in 2 years with a complete team and the keys to the car. Who's projected to come out then? And that's if Justin isn't top 10 qb by then.

  13. Yess bears will be on 5 primetime games with the 1st overall pick Caleb will be one of the season storylines we will be talked about all the time the Justin story is just old and boring glade we will be moving on from Justin 😊

  14. Okay Chicagoland, Here is why you don't move on from JF1. Baker Mayfield and Jalen Hurts. Let me explain. Mayfield comes out of college with all the grit and tools of a star but languishes in Cleveland and Carolina looking like a bust for years until he meets McVay and looks good and then gets a shot on a team that was built to help Tom Brady win. Now he has his team in the second round of the playoffs. On the flipside, Hurts is given accolades as a potential MVP candidate and looks like a world beater on an Eagles team with a great O-line, Receivers like Brown, Smith and Goedert and a stellar Offensive Coordinator in Shane Steichen who leaves to take a head coaching job and hurts looks like, well he looks worse than JF1 this year. Fields has the tools and athleticism and most importantly he has the drive and temperament to be our star QB. We have a chance to build around him over the next two years with incredible draft capital and a GM that is showing he can find talent. The Bears future with JF1 is so bright it is blinding as long as they can bring in a talented and creative OC who can call plays, which Getsy was not. And idiots in Chicago talking about trading JF1 for a pittance to take a chance on a prima donna like Williams? And you all want to drop him because Love got to stand in a pristine pocket and throw to wide open receivers for the past two games. We don't deserve nice things!

  15. Bears shouldn’t have drafted shroud . He wouldn’t have any to throw to on the bears with a crapy OL . Poles did the right thing. QB is not a position of need we had , have a lot of holes to fill. JF is great and if we can fleece the number 1 pick again we should. Top current player 2 or 3 first round picks and a 2nd ? That’s way better than hoping a QB is better than Justin. Also Darnell Wright is the real deal wait for a few years and he will be so polished .

  16. If you look into the last 25 Superbowls, maybe 5 were won by a team that did not at least have a low level franchise qb. 80% of the Superbowl winners had a franchise qb. Not necessarily HoF qb, but a franchise qb. That's Eli Manning as the benchmark. To truly have a chance beyond a hope and a prayer, you have to have that guy at qb. To me, Justin Fields is just good. He's not great. The Bears absolutely must find an elite guy. That may or may not be anybody in this draft. If it is though, they have to take him.

  17. It drives me CRAZY the way the sport talks world acts as if Young WASN'T the consensus #1 pick. The same narrative they have RIGHT NOW about Williams was being spoken about Young. 80% of the talkers were calling Young so great and a can't miss. Let's stop speaking on The Bears missing out on Stroud when THE VAST MAJORITY would've taken Young. The hypocrisy of speaking with hindsight and acting as if we didn't get a great haul.

  18. Please don’t bring up stadium plans with Carm ever again. It always leads to 10-15 minutes of nonsense.

  19. I love when people play hindsight Henry. Like do yall honestly believe CJ could fix getsy oh and he wouldn't have had a WR

  20. We need To build a team not a QB, if we put anyone in this debacle’s they will look the same! You guys are
    Pushing a BS narrative to get clicks. You see who many 1st rounders are on these teams and can count how many we have! Why are you helping to destroy this budding team! Another QB without a team, then you can get clicks for the next 4 years! Build the castle and if it doesn’t work draft Arch Manning! Give it a rest! Jeez!

  21. As much as I trust anyone else. It seems that QB is the most difficult position to get correct in the draft. Probably because a QB is more dependent on the coaching, scheme, and surrounding players than any other position. Poles has been better in the draft than in free agency so far. That's probably why I lean towards trading the #1 overall pick for multiple additional picks over selecting a QB at #1. A single player at #1 seems like a bigger risk to me. The whole rookie QB contract doesn't really make sense to me either. A top tier WR & DE would save as much on rookie contracts as a QB. The Bears would get more than that for #1 overall too.

  22. What if u grab Caleb, trade justin, then Justin's new team turns into a playoff contender, and Caleb doesn't work out? It's funny how people never view it that way 😂

  23. The process was correct last year. The consensus #1 pick was Bryce Young.. We got a WR1 in Moore, Darnell Wright, Tyrique Stevenson (56th overall), and this years #1. Can't lose sleep over Stroud, but we should take a swing on Caleb.

  24. Ya'll Tails are just wagging because the offensive group they have with the Texans it's different than the one that the Bears have Justin Fields run more CJ Stroud throws more Caleb Williams throw more Justin Fields run there's nothing wrong with that get them offensive coach that are unlocked his arm for the NFL and you'll be all right why y'all steady making excuses of what you want being a window shopper you miss out on what you actually have so give him the help and shut the f**** up

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