In this episode, Andy and Deeze discuss their favorite narratives for 2024, how it has been building IKB, things we paid less than $250 for that made our lives better, some of our favorite content, and more.
Show Notes
00:00 Introduction and Holiday Recap
03:10 Exploring Bitcoin
06:10 Solana and Other Ecosystems
09:55 Staking TIA and Airdrops
11:29 AI Coins and BitTensor
16:43 Maker Changes and DeFi Tokens
20:02 COIN and Rotations
23:13 Inside IKB and the Closed Beta
27:03 Challenges and Easier Aspects of Building IKB
32:04 Future Plans for IKB and Best Ball
33:56 Grinding NBA and Competition
35:08 Fantasy Sports Strategies
39:26 Exploring Underdog Golf
41:57 Challenges of NBA DFS
45:19 AI Agents in Fantasy Sports
49:45 Investing in Startups
55:05 Best Purchases Under $250
58:28 Taking Care of Health
01:04:48 Insightful Content
01:10:15 Finding Your Own Path to Success
01:11:04 The Importance of Patience and Transformation
01:13:10 Identity and Personal Success
01:14:01 The Value of Work-Life Balance
01:15:27 The Myth of the 10-Year Plan
01:19:01 Larry and Lola’s Origins (Does Andy need a third cat?)
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GM GM we’re back again after a short Hiatus with another Duo pod Andy and I are going to be talking about some of the things we’re excited about going into 2024 uh what Andy’s building with ikb maybe some of the things were Angel Investing in or trading um some real
Life stuff obviously talk about some fantasy sports and some other stuff but yeah uh want to kick it off which just it’s been a long holiday season um hope everyone’s doing well we’ll be recording about 14 episodes of the podcast in two weeks so that’ll be
Exciting to finally get back in the lab get some IRL content out there for everybody and yeah uh before we dive in anything though Andy how has your winter been you know all the family time holidays yeah can’t complain too much good amount of family time stuff
Um was home for not too long let’s see all my siblings and do all that which is nice it have been a while so my grandparents is always good cuz they’re all getting really up my goodness the the grandparent stuff like doing the Pod has made me realize how little I have
Long conversations with my family specifically my grandparents and I have all these pictures every year I try to take a bunch of pictures when we go home for the holidays and then I compare them like oh how does everyone look this year versus last year and for me this is like
The first year where my my grandma has looked better this year than last year so that was that was cool it’s been a minute but the family time is so important I tried really hard to just keep my phone on silent for three days and just talk to everybody and it was
Good not a lot of politics which is rare for my family normally it’s like half my family is diard Republican half my family’s Die Hard Democrat and then they’re just like fighting over illegal immigration and Trump at the dinner table wasn’t any of that so I felt felt
Pretty good but it’s so important to spend that time with them like I’ve been trying to get my family to come visit us more now that we’re in a bigger house and stuff too because I realize I don’t talk to them nearly as much as I should be and it’s
Uh it’s tough because you see everyone aging and yeah it’s more important than like trading the market making money to see the [ __ ] fam yeah what’s the point if you’re not getting into it that stuff right like the whole point of making money is so that you have time to
Then spend that time with your family and friends and and not worry about the money so much but yeah we’re fully back in the the money worrying about now though back home it’s afternoon years seems like every day something new is popping off there’s a I don’t know like
A dozen different sectors of the space that I think are exciting or semi exciting um curious for you have you been messing around with anything in the Bitcoin land like um ordinals or vc2s or any of that stuff I haven’t been that much other than like owning some stuff that is kind of
Like adjacent to it on ethereum mostly just like haven’t had enough time um what are some of your like ethereum adjacent bags that you’re talking about the only thing that I have is movie um yeah but that I just like Bing of and I’m just kind chilling um I think it’s cool
I I I see those few people like like Moon and a few others who are really bull posting ordinals and I tend to agree I think that like they’re going to do pretty well I just I’m spending so much time on ikb and other stuff that haven’t
Really had had the bandwidth to spend time on it you know yeah Mo Moon is actually the one who tried to get me to Mint monkeys and I didn’t fully understand the value prop he was telling me like 2 days before Christmas uh you need to get into this pay attention this
Is going to be a hype new thing and I’m like I’m just gonna go spend time with my family for for a few days and not look at this and then I come back and the first night I’m home um I I look at these monkeys at like 12:30 in the
Morning sent a transaction through buy a floor and it doesn’t go through for three and a half hours so I’m up until like 5 a.m. trying to get a second monkey because you can’t send another transaction when one is pending like it errors and says you own too much or you
Don’t own enough Bitcoin even if you do so it was just very frustrating experience but it’s so bad it’s kind of endearing like there’s something about it being 10 plus minutes or you know on average 10 minutes that it’s painful you’re in suspense you’re kind of just praying like there’s definitely people
Who are smarter than me who can like copy my transaction with a higher fee and buy things that are pending I don’t know how they do it I need to know but something about how bad it is made me like weirdly bullish on it um there’s so
Many people on Twitter who are just like oh the user experience just sucks and like I’m definitely there complaining about it but it also made me realize like if it sucks this much like maybe there’s some upside here that people are just writing off because it’s suck so
Bad yeah totally I think anytime that it’s like really hard to use something or do something it’s like probably pretty bullish to be honest if people it’s normally a sign and it’s not that hard right like it’s 15 30 minutes of your time it’s you know you make an X
Firste wallet swap some [ __ ] over to bitcoin it takes like a block or two and then you’re in it’s not like it’s this whole new [ __ ] it it’s like we’re on so many different l2s already on ethereum we’re already on salana we’re already in the cosmos ecosystem like we’re already
Doing all this other [ __ ] anyway it’s not that much different it’s just slower uh speaking of salana and the other ecosystems last time we talked you were pretty heavy portfolio wise in salana are you still um close to that same allocation or have you been reallocating as price goes up or I’m definitely
Curious how you’re looking at salana because I’ve been I think my cost basis on my salana bag is like $75 so it’s not great um but I’ve been adding more as it went up yeah I haven’t sold any I haven’t added any more um most because I have a lot you’re comfy yeah
But I I’ve been buying and staking Tia that’s like other kind of thing did you get the dimension air drop or are you eligible for it um at least a few of my wallets are um did you split up your tia like you know say say you have like
Hypothetically you have 10,000 Tia um are you spreading that across like 20 wallets at 500 each or 40 wallets at 250 each or my dumbass is using two wallets I have uh a few thousand Tia and it’s just split into two wallets and I’m like yeah maybe I should be sibling a little
Harder I have more wallets than that that much do you do it all manually or do you have an audio I did it all manually yeah did you all Thea too or did you keep some liquid I st all of it I don’t own that much and
Basically my thing is like if I’m buying this I’m buying it to St like that’s 21 day unlock got me a little uh you know not I guess paranoid isn’t the right word but it made me not want to stake all of it just in case there’s that dumb
Day where the price goes up like 2X or something and I want to take some off but it’s been nice there was another drop today I think it’s Saga um but you needed to have the tea Stak on December 1st I believe and I was
Off by like a few days sadly so I didn’t get any of that but it’s like you only needed to have uh you know 204 Tia staked to get the the large percentile or like the the largest airdrop so fairly small bar entry that’s like three
Grand right now to and I not I’m sure you know other uh air drops are going to use different rankings but it feels like a pretty low you could take like five grand put it in Tia stake it and just kind of forget about it and hopefully
Get more than that in airdrops so the next few months I think yeah I think the odds are pretty high that you get more than that in air drop I even got like IRL friends um in the Tia so so what can go wrong you know
What could go wrong sold them sold them the whole Narrative of like you buy it you stake it you wait for me to text you that you got something like uh yeah I like I got a few of my IRA friends to buy salana a while
Back my one friend who’s in Tia was minting like fracks and [ __ ] with us on salana last last bull cycle so he was super ready to just like go into a new chain get in the [ __ ] weeds he sadly wasn’t dcing into salana in the bare
Market um I think he actually thought it might go to zero for a little bit but then he bought back in in November so it’s it’s working out for him but outside of the l1s I’m in Soul I’m in Tia I recently just bought the the
Arbitrum dip um like two days ago we just had a 30% dip basically woke up to all my group chats going like yo what the [ __ ] going on uh the block released a thing about Matrix report thing and price is low uh and we’ve basically fully retraced that but the the arbitrum
And the optimism play like I was looking at my eth bag and I was thinking to myself if I’m bullish on you shouldn’t I be more bullish on arbitrum and optimism they feel like this like higher beta play almost like Lio where yeah Stak eth
Is just so boring to hold um I’ve been converting it into Bitcoin actually because of the [ __ ] ordinals but it’s just I don’t know man I’m sure it’ll rip I’m sure it’s fine but it just feels so slow compared to everything else going on yeah yeah I think like that’s kind of
Where I feel through it like salana Celestia was a angel investor in arbitrum forever ago and still have that like a decent Bo actually in uh what three months yeah two or three months yeah that that was kind of my play behind buying the liquid ARB token it’s
Like I think there’s room to run between now and the unlock so I was like all right let me buy some of what’s going to unlock and maybe play the short game um are you I’m curious to see how that plays out yeah I get a little lost in all the
Different like farming things I could be doing on all the different l1s and l2s like this one thing I really like about Tia And even soul to an extent but Soul’s still kind of complex for me like I have uh 80% of my salon and either
Like jeto Soul or marinade Soul or the the marinade like locks staking that isn’t liquid and then with all the goo and all the marinin soul that is liquid I’m supplying basically all of it on margin fi and then like borrowing a very small amount of usdt and usdc against it just
To get points to farm it but I’m not like in arbitrum and optimism or on base farming a whole bunch of [ __ ] I have been farming that Cambria game just I think it’s really fun I’m like top 10 and points but it’s not uh you know I
Have no idea what I’m going to get for these points it’s just we’re praying kind of faded out of the [ __ ] like I’m not uh buying Bonk or the soul [ __ ] or no I’m just not good at that stuff I’ve just learned my lesson I like the
Only time I make money on the shitcoin is when I’m in a group chat with soie and he shares it and it’s under 500k market cap those are the only ones I seem to make money on like when I buy the thing that’s 5 mil because I think
Like it can go to 25 mil it just goes down 80% instead uh luckily I didn’t lose too much on that but like things like popat and egg dog and all this Salon [ __ ] like I didn’t do super great on um have you been paying attention to any of the AI
Coins like uh bit tenser I own a good amount of that actually um for a while if you don’t mind me asking like what I I haven’t bought it yet I have it on my chart and I I like or in my like trading view list and I look at the towel chart
Every day but like what what is it what’s the thesis behind it I don’t really know that’s sick you it’s a it’s a um what’s the one that’s not Cosmos that’s basically the same thing polka dot it’s a polka dot chain parain um they’re currently announcing some new
Toonomic like next week I don’t really give a [ __ ] to be honest I just it’s like you some sort of like D I am not staking it right now because I’m too lazy to set up the par chain wallet [ __ ] IES have like the wrapped towel um so
I’m missing out on some percentage yield there but um I think like basically the reason that I own it is mostly just that I think it will catch a really strong bid around like AI narrative stuff and it’s one of the only like AI things that you can actually like
Theoretically build on top of like someone made like an AI chat bot with it um which is like kind of cool I guess I don’t really know um like making their own like chat GPT with it yeah and so like the idea of having like an
Ecosystem on top of it I think is like pretty interesting um but for the most part I just think that like narrative wise it’ll well the AI narrative seems super obvious but like you said there really aren’t that many good tokens that you feel like you can buy them and get
Direct exposure to that narrative I keep going back to Prime uh that the parallel token just because I can see this like AI gaming narrative with their colonies coming back uh been holding a decent amount of that and then I don’t really like there’s too many AI meme coins like I’ve
Seen AI tokens like one I think was like a fake index fun on ethereum another one was on salana but I’m waiting for some really legit like AI token that that hopefully comes out and maybe it is bit tenser and I’m just like gonna miss it
Um yeah I’m sure there’ll be more of them um down the line but that’s just like the one that I have right now I’m not like incredibly tied to it not like I’m Uber bullish on it more just like a that’s one of the I think like I don’t
Know you sent the list of like different kind of things like yeah deepin real world assets gaming AI memes nfts l1s all that I’m like pretty comfortable totally missing the wave on like real world assets and defy and like ZK stuff and memes and the ZK stuff just confuses
The [ __ ] out of me yeah that’s like IQ part of the bell curve that not that many people get or care too much about yeah we AI is the one that like I don’t want to miss out on and C feel like the kind of easiest bet there right
Now yeah speaking of the um the defi stuff have you been paying any attention to the maker changes like um a little bit it’s really it’s pretty [ __ ] like convoluted but they’re like changing theit split yeah and and then they’re doing all these different subd Dows so I think
That’s really like the interesting thing and like honestly I’m probably going to buy some maker um I need to um the smarter people than me have been telling me to buy maker so maker run against ethereum this summer was insane like from maybe June up until I mean even now it’s still
Doing really well but it was down super cheap and I remember watching it just rip verse like it went like 3x vers eth or something over the course of a couple months uh yeah the uh but like I think the most interesting thing is like a lot
Of these subd Dows like spark protocol and there’s some other ones from the rumors that I have heard when those subd Dows come out the best way to have access to those governance tokens will be maker or whatever the rebranded token is so I think that’s where it’s potentially interesting and it sound
Like almost in the same way as like TI or something yeah but yeah I think that there’s going to be some I mean like the stuff about this annualized revenue is like kind of insane like I saw something like yesterday that it’s making like $240 million a year it’s kind of mindblowing numbers
And like I don’t even fully understand do you know how they make the money like where’s that Revenue coming from probably stupid question um borrowing fees just just from borrowing for die yeah that’s crazy yeah well like there’s just a lot of outstanding D that’s true and it’s a high tvl
And they’re doing stuff with like the the like the treasury notes that they’re doing and like the real world asset stuff um like a bunch of makers is in like a bunch of like the backing of Maker Now is offchain like real world assets so they’re earning interest on that
Um yeah I it’s pretty interesting I think it’ll continue to do well I feel like it’s one of the best like quote unquote old defi tokens to to speculate on yeah I know like a has been doing pretty well lately as well I don’t an
Snx I don’t really know why to be honest I I don’t know what about a is made it do well but um yeah so he’s been big on snx he’s been for like since October talking up a lot about it but I a yeah I mean I I feel
Like a is the go-to lending and borrowing platform for e but other than that I I haven’t really updated my bias on you know why is it doing well like why is it doing better than compound if it is I maybe it even isn’t I think it
Is um have you been playing the coin stock at all is that just like super boring and out of your wheelhouse I don’t buy stocks never have never will I don’t care if it’s a crypto companies [ __ ] [ __ ] those stocks it’s just been fun to watch it rip like it’s just been
Super strong I don’t have any either but I have it on my list of like you know every day I check these prices and it’s been super strong strong completely missed aax I’m like super biased to not buy AAC for some reason uh yeah that’s something that I’ve been trying to be
Better about as well with all of this where it’s like didn’t own any aack instead only own salana but like what I missed out on maybe a small outperformed salana over the last however many months by some small amount like I just I would rather not sit in front of deck screener
And Kraken and coin market cap for 12 hours a day to rotate every trade where it’s like it’s too hard because you don’t know what’s going to rotate next like you’re sitting here and you’re looking at strength and you’re like oh like you know some of these coins have
Been consolidating since the middle of December like Tia is a good example and um in inj is another one that like really went crazy but has been consolidating for a little bit and then you look at the other ones that are ripping now like say or Sai or whatever
And it’s like okay it kind of feels like sigh is due for month of consolidation after it just went from 20 cents to 80 cents and maybe these tokens like you know we’re seeing it today with Tia and we’re seeing with IJ uh but maybe these ones who are
Consolidating for the last month after expanding in you know early December late November maybe they’re the ones that are due to pump again like and it’s just hard to to time those rotations especially when every day you’re on Twitter it’s like there’s a different narrative it’s kind of one of the
Reasons I bought arbitrum because they just made an alltime high and it’s really never had a run and it’s like okay well there’s not really that many bag holders who are like trying to break even um maybe I’ll buy some of this because it it was showing recent
Strength but it’s really like I sit in front of this [ __ ] all day and I still don’t hit the the rotations well like it’s yeah yeah I’m trying to do that less and like just kind of pick the stuff that I like and hold it for the
Next year and a half and then sell it when it’s worth a lot more and in the meantime I think is interesting buy stuff and build stuff and farm air drops and like I’m just I’m not the best Trader in the world and I know that and like I’m not
Going to try to trick myself into thinking that I’ll figure it out this time it’s it’s really important to know the type of Trader you are too like I’ve realized this you know I’m just way better with nfts than I am tokens um my p&l shows that like my my heads space
Shows I have more funds trading the nfts so that was kind of a reason with like the ordinals and node monkeys where I was like Hey like this is something that I’m actually like you know quote unquote good at I I should be doing that more
And like you said just like pick some tokens and hold them and just see what happens like Tia is nice get the air drops and whatnot but I want to talk to you a little bit about ikb you’ve been pretty heads down in the lab with Nate
For I want to say like six months almost does that sound right we’ve probably more so been like really working on it for like four gotcha and the the beta just went live is the Clos beta right yeah what what um for the people who are listening who may want to get involved
With the beta is it just follow the Twitter account and then send your email on the the website yeah so we like we sent out you know we had like 2500 or so people give us their email addresses but I’m sure like most of those people were just like airdrop hunting and no
Interest oh [ __ ] oh give you an email yeah you ever got an air drop from sending an email by the way no like I don’t think I’ve ever gotten an airdrop for sending my email so it’s like why’ you even just waste why’ you waste your
Time with this um but so we like we sent out an email to anyone who ever gave us their email address that let them sign up for the closed beta um and so we have probably you you know which is we want we don’t have that many people playing
Right now it’s a pretty small number probably 20 or so users who are coming back and playing every day um and you can play for real money right now too it’s not just a fake nice yeah like right and so like we’ve had like $2,500 worth of worth of pick
Thems volume over the last like couple days since we went live um which is pretty nice and I we have like one player who’s been a winning player so far uh it’s wish you know who that person is from like oh it’s wh yeah that’s awesome
Of all the people playing it’s a but yeah and so we’re going to slowly start rolling out once we we kind of wanted to keep it really small to start just to be like hey this this working we’re not going to it’s not it’s non-custodial like you just keep your usdc in your
Wallet you can enter on Main net or base you get paid out on Bas that might change in the future um but that’s how it’ll work right now and so all you do is just you just log in make a pick them press enter send the usdc to a to a
Multisig and you know goes from there automatically paid out when you win um nothing too crazy but as we start opening up the platform more we’ll probably start by like giving people who are actively playing referral links and they’ll be able to earn points based on people’s referrals and on boarding people and
Stuff try to get start getting some more people in um but it’s been really good far [ __ ] love points yeah yeah give us a ref link that we can post to get you know make the points like millions of points too like we I want to like I
Want to go like on margin five where it’s like oh I have like three million points like yeah I got Point yeah I I think what’ll be fun about this is you know there’s been a lot of other DFS platforms nothing to do with crypto that have done a lot of like
You know rewards for larger players and stuff and things like that um and having the points to there is going to be really helpful with that um like we plan to be pretty aggressive with like our rakeback and giveaways and things like that and it’ll mostly be contingent on
Points um and so I think there’s going to be some fun stuff that we can do which will be nice and we’ll have much more we’re going to have a lot more of like the social element too which will be fun nice what’s been the hard hardest part about building IB out so
Far um probably let’s see hardest part probably I guess we didn’t raise any money for it so we’ve been bootstrapping it ourselves um which is like obviously has challenges um so that’s probably one thing um but then the other I would say is probably just like start like starting at zero on on
An idea is just like frustrating and takes time and I don’t like waiting around for things so like probably just like the waiting and but now we’re at a point where it’s kind of all kind ready to go and Mi like this will probably be the actual hardest part of like really
Launching and having people use it and all that but the hardest part of people now is probably just been I can’t contribute that much on a lot of the more complex website stuff and so mostly Nate you I’ve got I got married had a kid like with life going
On outside of work stuff too how’s married life does it feel any different with the ring on my finger but otherwise no it’s the same yeah no I I felt the same when we got married it’s like oh it’s official but I’ve looked at you as my wife for like six years
Already so yeah yeah what’s been some of the like easier things um about building like what I’m sure there was like lwh hanging fruit that you learned from either fractional or maker before like is it more like the entity stuff like just getting it set up is that’s fine
Like it’s pretty easy if you’re not raising money because you just make it El see yeah that’s true we don’t really have any intentions of ever raising money um we kind of want just Bo drop this thing until like we’re already Prof that’s beautiful keep the team small
Don’t raise a of money yeah and so we’ll see like we’ll probably hopefully we can get to the point where we make enough money that we can start we can hire a couple people but we don’t want to hire a c we want to stay really small and
Lean and like kind of our plan is to just ship stuff way faster than any other DFS company crypto or not crypto can ship anything um and so like we launched with pickham we’re going to have pium tournaments pretty soon which I think is going to be pretty fun so
Like we’ve seen some of these like DraftKings has like uh pick six where you can like you do like six pick thems and enter like a pool with everyone else and whoever hits they all get they all get paid out of like the pot um we’re
Going to like kind of take it a step further and make it like a gpp where you can enter pick thems of any combination any size if you want to make a 100 way pick them you can go for it and then the the way that the contest works is
You know say there’s like a 100 entries every pick them you know how like on Underdog or on on IB like every pick them has like a multiplier yes of like 20x 15x whatever um based on at the end of the night every pick them that was successful is
Then ranked based on multiplier and that’s the payout and so I think there’s like some really fun game theory there of like there could be a night where a three-way pick them ends up winning the whole thing because everyone else went for like six ways to try try to get
First place can you see all the other pick them slips that are in that pool before you enter or is it hidden until close and then it’s like okay that makes sense it’ll look a lot like you know like a normal Draft Kings or FanDuel tournament um but so
That’s like the next thing that we’re going to be shipping which I think will be really fun like and we’re also going to do it with alternate lines with alternate player stats so one thing that we’re going to be rolling out pretty soon we’re just waiting for support from
Our providers for it is like instead of just having higher or lower will have like say for wide receivers for like receiving yards higher than 20 yards higher than 30 yards higher than 40 yards higher than 50 higher than 60 all of them with their own multipliers and
So you can like really pick and choose and get much more granular in all of that as opposed to just higher or lower or you know sometimes as a boost or whatever meari Cooper plus 180 receiving Arts yeah like so you want to do that
You can do it and be a wild multiplier or you could also do Amari Cooper over 20 receiving yards and it be a much lower multiplier but you can like really pick and choose your own um your own way though which I think would be pretty fun I like that a lot I
I feel like I’m so um timid in the pickup streets because you know just from an Roi perspective I’ve been horrible at it so I look at my Underdog account I’m like ah [ __ ] like I’m just going to lose money doing this but I yeah I’m sure with uh I mean at least
With football I’m definitely better than like basketball and and baseball it right now is it um football and basketball only or what and basketball only yeah we we did like a bunch of research as far as like the volume of DFS in the United States and like
There’s not much reason for us to support anything other than football and basketball right now that makes sense so we’re just going to focus on that like so we’re gonna we’re going to roll out these tournaments and once we have that we’ll have like kind of the infrastructure for tournaments that
Exist and then our next Focus would be best ball stuff and we have you have things like um Super Bowl odds or like MVP odds or like like like say like football in the off season um you know after basketball’s done like that I don’t know March not March like May June
July slow time not we won’t be able to because we’re not a Sportsbook got we’re only doing DFS and so it player yeah game of skill stuff yeah so so we won’t be able to do that but I I’m hopeful that by that time we’ll have some bball
Contest up that’ll be fun and we’re gonna I I need to talk to lawyers about this first but I think we’re gonna have every baseball team be a tradable nft oh [ __ ] so we’ll see I really want to do it um but basically once you draft your team
It gets Meed an nft and you can transfer to someone else you can do whatever and it’s just whoever owns it at the end of you know yeah if you own it at the end like you know say it’s week 17 and you’re like one of those people who are
Projected to be top three in BBM uh you could sell your lineup ahead of time uh and then see what happens I like that a lot that’s that’s interesting so for um the fantasy sports stuff outside of ikb have you been grinding NBA every day
Still yeah i’ I’ve kind of cut back a little bit on my process I had a pretty I actually wasn’t that bad but it felt like I had a pretty tough December based on the numbers it was fine was good was insane November was crazy I feel like you crushes like every
Night one of you was top three yeah the the competition has definitely gotten stronger under as more people have have come over every once in a while they’ll see a new name who I haven’t seen before and they’ll be oh they’re making smart decisions yeah so like one thing I’m
Curious to start tracking and I can track now uh is the number of people who Max enter a given slate so like last night there were 21 people 21 players who Max entered the contest the main that seems pretty low it’s lower than I would have thought1 the yeah 21 like duning
After yeah wow I would have thought it was like 50 plus yeah but also probably more interestingly but not very surprising those 21 players uh cumulatively have more profit than all the other entrance comand that that makes sense I mean they’re giving themselves I’m sure they’re sharper people number one most
People who are playing 750 plus dollars a day are are just going to be sharper because the other people like me are going to lose money over time and be like what wait a second yeah but so so it it’s been pretty good I’ve actually
Been doing I did a lot of NFL over the last few weeks um and auto drafting it and had pretty good success trying a couple different strategies like 150 BRS Auto drafted yeah are you looking over the lineups as they’re Drafting and trying to just like make sure you don’t
Take two tees or like get a stack or you just like set the ranks very similar to NBA let it rip 15 to 25 export it look at what you got tweak and resend kind of a bit of both um what what I’m mostly doing is I’m kind of so
Part of the reason that I think I can do it is I think that like Elite tight end is a scam this year and so basically like I kind you have no tight end on the ranks and you’re just aut taking whatever one in the six that’s up and so
Then but so then most of my strategy for it has actually been to basically either I I essentially have like totally stopped drafting mid-round quarterbacks on Underdog okay um and I’ll only draft them in the first round if it’s like I’m doing a batch of drafts
With Jaylen Herz is my one1 like I’m taking him every single draft and then I’m like you know at the back of the draft putting Dallas SC or whoever else for a stat or like that I think for the most part you’re taking a quarterback in the first round like they probably have
Touchdown like rushing touchdown potential you don’t even have to stack them that’s hurts it’s yeah or or Lamar and stuff like all right these guys doesn’t really matter or I’m taking a quarterback who’s going on I’m doing one or the other and just getting the leverage on like oh you know
Jordan love might only be taken in 5% of Battle Royale lobbies and is taking Jordan love really that different than taking CJ shroud and 100% yeah of yeah I like so what I’m what I’m doing is trying to find a a pairing that I think is like replaceable to a mid- round
Quarterback and like their wide receiver one pairing and then just autod drafting them as the last two picks of the draft every single time and so like last week I did 50% CJ Stroud Nico Collins and 50% Justin fields and DJ Moore and that was
Just like so DJ Moore was going like the middle of the draft I just kind of bump them up a little bit I’m just gonna take DJ Moore um and then take fields in like the last round or second to last round every time um I’ve had pretty good
Success with it so far you know The Season’s coming to an end so who knows how much more have an opportunity to do it I’ll probably try the end this week but it’s weird with you know the weird incentives and players sitting you normally wait till like Saturday Sunday
To do them or do you do them throughout the week like a little bit here and there as news comes in I do them throughout the week um mostly I actually like doing it earlier in the week preferably because the ranks come out and [ __ ] yeah because like basically so
Like last week as I was looking at the quarterbacks who were going undrafted or close to undrafted I was like there’s no way that J Fields should be this low like it doesn’t make any sense he’s free like he’s like undrafted and you’re just like I know that ET is going to have
Higher ranks for Justin they’re gonna like Justin field and so they had him as like the qb4 or something on the weekend so it’s like I know that once that happens he’s going to start to get steamed up and it becomes harder to do yes and so I’d rather just at that point
Be the first be be early to it and kind of make that bet and be like so like for the most part I’m not even like using projections too much versus just being like I’m just going to go off of 8 but like move players down I don’t
Really want like I don’t want to have tight ends too high or if I do have tight ends High I want to have a lot of running backs at at the start so I’m getting two running backs at the start and then taking a tight end or like a
Running back tight end running back and it’s kind of just depends on the week but yeah I think that there’s still space there to explore um I haven’t gotten totally slaughtered doing this which is nice no that’s fun yeah still doing NBA uh actually have a bunch of
Golf running today oh [ __ ] um how long have you been in golf for I don’t think we’ve ever talked about uh Underdog golf this is I I did a little bit last year um but there’s a it was like the first contest of the Year first
Tournament and it’s it’s a no it’s a a literal no correlation sport um it’s a it’s a very high variant no correlation sport that is not incredibly projectable in a lot of ways and so I think my general strategy of like getting kind of even to the field
And doing all that works really nicely Underdog’s been good nice I I’ve basically since I only have like 10 drafts done for it I honestly burn out really hard on fantasy right basically right when we went to Miami like that that week before Miami did some Thanksgiving stuff I took
Some time off and then I realized like you know I have my spreadsheet um I’m actually up in NBA with rakeback I’m down like $200 without rakeback and I know I was getting like 300 plus a week back from that so I’m up and really it’s because of a winner take all win
That I got lucky at we drafted it on stream where I had like Gordon Hayward and Mark Williams and they put up 120 combined or something ridiculous uh but I just kind of realized like even when I’m watching the NBA I’m not correctly processing what I’m seeing
And I don’t feel like um at least in the NFL like I can watch the Players and develop some sort of opinion on like how they are but like I could watch Cade Cunningham Play 50 games and I’m gonna think he’s [ __ ] every time and then I’m
Still taking him an ADP like I have like this like rough uh I I don’t let my takes bias my play and then I just go off ADP and then I think that’s a a losing thing to do um and I just don’t know basketball well
Like I never really was a yeah super super fun to play DFS for sports you don’t know I unless it’s your job and you’re good at it football’s nice because of the the Cadence of it it’s like there’s this weekly Sunday you have all week to build up like you can spend
Two hours drafting a day in football and be like happy with what you get on Sunday whereas like the NBA was taking me three to four hours a day and then I was also kind of not really engaged with like or anybody after lock because I’m like
Oh well like man Anthony Davis like might have diarrhea and I might need to care about this late swap scenario and oh [ __ ] the ETR projections updated but I’m on my phone and can barely read them and I’m trying to do my late Swap and I
Don’t know the stress just you know when when you look at all the [ __ ] coining that was possible it just felt like the opportunity cost of spending those four hours a day on NBA DFS wasn’t worth it when you know you could buy some [ __ ]
That goes up 50% in a day with size like you know you put like 5 10 whatever 20 grand behind something and in the NBA it’s like there’s never any night where I want to play more than $1,500 like I’m like I know I don’t have an edge I’m
Like kind of scared it’s like on these coins though you know you can take a much bigger size and it it just feels opportunity cost wise silly for me um if I was was winning though I mean I would keep playing but playoff best I know there’s an edge
I just haven’t like I’ve I did like 10 um and this was like a week or two ago so it was kind of before some of the recent scenarios updated um yeah I uh I’ve done a lot of playoff baskball are you maxed did you
Max the no not yet I’m working on it I’m working you’re going Max though yeah like you’re on Pace yeah I might be a little bit behind but now I’ve been really I’ve done 73 gaunlets that’s pretty good yeah so it’s about halfway full it’s a little bit
More than halfway full so are you doing them all by hand or are you autoing like the V I’m doing them all by hand but I’m doing four at a time nice okay that’s that’s as many as I can do yeah my brain can’t do more than three at a time like
I I know when I tried to do like 10 puppies over the summer at once that it it I can’t of building the same team and five of those 10 I’m like so all right hold on let me go to a question I I was talking about in Discord today yeah
Underdog guys I was proposing the question and I I think that I think it’s interesting most people said they didn’t they didn’t like the idea if you could replace everyone who you drafted against in Underdog with AI agents that acted exactly like Underdog users so that you didn’t have a pick
Timer but your drafts were so your drafter just as fast as you wanted and everyone so like everyone who played like everyone who entered instead of enter when you enter a draft instead of six users all drafting against each other it’s you and five AI agents that
Act just like users who are playing on the platform and every draft is just one person drafting against AI would you do that I don’t think so like how do I know that the AI agents are behaving like Underdog users like some Underdog users are really sharp and then some Underdog
Users are really dumb like yeah but you can do that like you could just make four different agents you know you know you you can make 500 and like you basically get randomly assigned when you’re under a draft like oh this is a sharp draft they’re all gonna I mean it
Feels like that’s a better way to deal with possible collusion or like know there’s this idea that if you enter depending on the draft like I feel like it’s harder to um maybe do it in the big $5 150 Max MBA but like maybe more of like the single entry stuff where the
Lobbies are slow and you can jam a few accounts and like I feel like it would there would be like no shadow of a doubt that nothing was colluded on if it was like that the timing would definitely be better like there’s the people who don’t
Push the plane and then they just you like a lot of the NBA drafts it’s like three people are Auto drafting but didn’t push the plane and if you’re not Auto drafting you’re just wasting you know two minutes per round waiting for people to to spend 30
Seconds so I do think the ux would be smoother the the AI just like in general AI in the world and how it changes what is possible is kind of crazy like the fact that you could even have ai agents was like not something we would have talked about two years ago mhm
And the fact it’s changed so rapidly is like you know maybe you know we’re talking earlier about AI gaming and Prime and stuff and the fact that you would have a AI agent who could maybe um play the game for you and you would just change inputs like that whole idea to me
Is very exciting I just think there would be push back in the beginning of people like you know I draft the play against other people to beat real people like is this AI does it feel as genuine but I think the user experience of like not an instant draft but instant outside
Of your pick would be really nice I’m not gonna lie yeah that that was what I was pushing back on to everyone when I was talking about it is they were like oh like no I don’t want to draft against the robots because they’ll be too good
And I was like no guys like they can be bad like you can you literally would make it so that some of the AI is like give me the guy who’s taking Carl Anthony Towns over uh Giannis and ant and [ __ ] treya like I want the people just like
Sprinkled in but I guess it’s hard from a platform is it hard from a platform way to verifiably say like here are our AI agents and this is their like distribution curve of skill and then it like the fifth percentile aka the the redacted tier of players like this is
How they act first at the 95th percentile the gigo brain players this how they act like how do they verify that I’m still not really sure as I talk about it out loud yeah but I experience Underdog doesn’t even verify how they match lobbies right like like there’s
Like way more basic things that you would want than that so it’s like does that even matter that much like no one’s cheing to verify that two people from the same IP address aren’t drafting against each other on Underdog like yeah now I’m definitely more Curious for the the AI
Agent I thought about it because I’ve been trying to draft big mittens every time I join it’s two out of six and I sit for half an hour and then I forget about it and then I start autographing my $250 entry contest yeah that’s that’s painful the the very slow entering High
Entry stuff I definitely can see that um I’ve had a few like you just said where you forget that you entered it and then I’m somebody who has my phone on do not disturb a lot so I don’t get that Underdog notification of like it’s your
Turn to draft or like in 60 seconds this starts um and then like you said three hours later you’re like oh [ __ ] didn’t I enter it and then you’re like oh it already drafted an hour and a half ago and like I got Auto filled so yeah I
Think that I literally AED the entire big Mitten the other day not a good lineup but it’s actually like it’s not live to win the contest but I do think it can advance it’s like a pretty good team for getting past round one so I’m just praying I get my money back that’s
That’s all you can hope for I mean I even with slow drafts over the summer like I always [ __ ] about this uh $500 slow draft I had where I didn’t realize it was my pick at like 10 p.m. and I think I drafted Drake lendon or Kyle pittz so I had Auto cued
Desmond Ritter is like a oh I’m G make sure I get him in the last round and then I like Auto drafted him at pck 88 because I was asleep and the timer out like [ __ ] like that really tilts me because then I I didn’t enter another
$500 contest because I felt like oh [ __ ] like [ __ ] this like I wasted my my $500 entry um but I think that’s definitely interesting I think the AI agent trend is something we’re going to see a lot more over the next one or two years of
Just like that it’s hard to overstate I think how fast that Tech is changing like I’m much more in tune with it on the art and chat GPT side than I am anywhere else but just like how much midj journey and Dolly and chat GPT have
Changed for art over the last year is insane uh and if that keeps going with everything else in the AI ecosystem like the agents and the chat Bots and stuff like I’m super curious to see where it’s at in a year or two because I think we’ll be using
More of it I mean even in a dystopian sense we have the AI Mommy uh app where you know you get a Pixar mom is a girlfriend and like people are rebelling against that on Twitter but it maybe is more inevitable than we want it to be uh
I have a question about Angel Investing and just like have you made any Angel investments in the last six months or is there anything that excites you because I had not made an angel investment basically since established the run in the spring of 2022 and I made two in the last month so
I don’t know that means the bull market smack I don’t know if that means um I’m just now paying attention again but uh curious if there’s anything that’s caught your eye on the the angel or early stage investing side no I haven’t um honest no one’s really been
Asking me lately which I’m pretty fine with L responsibility um yeah now the ones I’ve got into have been more like uh friend warm intros me and it’s uh it seems like kind of a no-brainer but I don’t know it I definitely was saying no to everything for like the
Last year like just a blanket like people would send me a message I would either ignore them or respond like hey I’m not looking FR Angel investment opportunities like the the good example of this is like the Pixelmon they did like a [ __ ] raise for a token and I
Was just like yeah I’m not like super interested investing in you guys after what I saw when you guys first came out like you guys just basically killed the idea for me like I’m good but there have been a couple more in the infrastructure realm of things because I just feel like
There’s a lot of upside in the infrastructure whereas like the app level is it almost feels like a cheat code in a sense where like if you’re investing in infrastructure you can get these like 1 billion plus fully diluted valuations that may be too high but like on the app
Side of things it’s hard to expect them to go the same distance uh yeah I was talking to someone about this and I was basically saying if like all you really like if you’re a builder and truly all you care about is like over the next 4
Years making as much money as like physically possible yes if you’re not building a layer one or Layer Two like you’re a [ __ ] idiot so stupid it’s like the opportunity cost or whatever is like 10x like yeah when you look at some of the apps you’re like oh
Like maybe this will be worth 150 million or 300 million and then you look at the L1 and you’re like maybe this is like five billion like I don’t know like yeah it’s like the 17th most popular L1 you’re like I don’t know it could be
How the hell does that sound yeah it’s kind of weird because you kind of like you know just talking about you want more apps than infrastructure because people use apps like not that many people use the infrastructure they build on top of it but like real use cases are
Normally the application Level not the infro level but I um I don’t even know if I can say the ones I I don’t even know if they’re public I’ll say it off air um but just couple checks I’m writing like a 10K check and a 50k check
Just I think the opportunity is pretty good on them um one question I have not related to anything crypto is what is the best thing that you’ve spent $250 on or less in the last year that’s made your life better yeah I saw that question I was
Thinking about it I [ __ ] love this water bottle I got two like really heavy duty water bottles and is that a 64 oce or how 64 o I have to alternate what arm I use it’s like an arm workout when I it um it’s a 10B dumbbell not kidding holding the handle
Like this if you hold it up and it’s full I think it probably is like a five pound like at least five pounds of like just like tension because you’re holding it up like that yeah Um but so did Aly get you into the water bottle or did you do this yourself no so I mean I’ve never really had like a nice water bottle or anything but I’ve just been so I’ve been like taking the gym a lot more seriously lately I’ve gotten like back into that
In a really good way um and so then like alongside that I’ve just like been trying to better being hydrated and so normally I’ll just like sit at my desk with water at my desk kind of all day and just kind of drink a little bit all the time uh and I just
Like it to be cold and so I was like let me just buy a really [ __ ] big bottle that I could put drink two full ones of those a day basically I drink like three [ __ ] um I something very similar jet uh Mrs D’s got me one of the water bottles
It’s not 64 I think it’s 32 but you drink a lot more than when you’re drinking out of a 8 O cup like the 8 oun cup I would might only refill it every four hours and like you drink up and yeah you’re like I sit here whereas if
It’s in this giant contain and it for me it has have a straw like yeah if it has a straw I will drink 4X more than if I have to tilt it back into my mouth it’s like this weird like ice is gonna get in the way and it’s gonna be annoying yeah
It’s like a brain phrase yeah but let’s see let me think outside of that I don’t really been trying not to buy very much um I feel like I just like have most of the things that I want um then spending a lot of time uh grilling which I’ve really
Enjoyed more yeah I GRE on the roof last night it was cold out but i’ really like it um so we got like a really nice like past iron pan that has like grates in it that I’ll do like veggies and stuff up there while I’m cooking meat um so
That’s been cool um what’s your favorite thing to grill that’s hard to say uh you said Smash Burgers I saw a smash making Smash Burgers tonight actually but that’s not on the grill that’s just on the cast IR pan in here I do want to
Get like a I want to buy like this replacement thing to like basically do a griddle on grill upstairs um but I haven’t gotten that yet I think I might be getting that to my birthday in a couple days 30 in like five days which
Is long do you feel old I do feel old I I turned 30 in um like a few months ago and just I feel 10 times older this year than I do last year like it’s kind of a weird thing I went to the doctor’s and like got a
Checkup and like I got to give blood and get my blood checked and [ __ ] no I just did I just did a blood panel this morning I’m very you should get anyone listening to this go get a blood panel talk to a talk to a medical professional
And get a blood panel and have them go through it with you learn about what’s going on body yeah that’s [ __ ] you got to take seriously now that like we’re 30 it’s not oh you can just blow off everything and you’re fine because you’re young but it’s like oh I need to
Be doing like preemptive stuff especially once you get to a point where especially blood there’s a lot of like indicators for future illness and things like that that you wouldn’t even think about it’s you get to a point where you have a little bit of money too and
You’re like how can I effectively like spend some money to increase my longevity and like then you start doing the preemptive stuff like I was listening to Levitan talk about it on a solo pod this year too where it was just like the technology is so different than
It was 10 years ago um for just like preemptive care and taking care of yourself that it is kind of ainer um but yeah otherwise can’t think of anything else that that have G recently um we really love we have like those the Sono Rome speakers or like the
Little1 $150 speakers those are really nice um I like those a lot yeah favorite thing to grill I did grilled chicken last night uh I think what I like about I think that’s the one that has the highest like when you bake chicken versus when you grill chicken
Well the difference in flavor is like [ __ ] night and day it’s like you’re eating a different piece of meat entirely um so I think that’s my favorite as far as like if we’re making chicken I’m like let me just Grill it I don’t care what the weather is like
Outside so much better if I grill it um we did pork chops and that was really good um pork chops yeah pork chops are good they’re pretty good for you too they’re like pretty low and fat and nicely it’s pretty lean you could put a bunch of good sauce on them we didn’t
Really ever eat pork chops until two years ago and then um we got hellofresh and a lot of the hellofresh stuff had like pork chops and yeah you enjoyed that we did was um we did salmon on cedar planks where we like soaked the cedar planks in white wine and then put
The salmon on on that and cook that on the grill and almost like steams it with from the white wine and stuff that was really really tasty that sounds I’m going have to have you uh we’re going have to have dinner in your place next two weeks getting hungry thinking about this
For me I haven’t bought too many crazy things I think the water bottles is a really good shout out um other than that like we bought Rim protectors for the Tesla and it sounds really stupid but I would have ruined the rims like three times over the last couple months if I
Didn’t have these on the car uh I don’t know why they designed the rims the way they did but they stick out from the tire so if you’re going to hit a curb you’re actually going to ding your Rim before it hits the tire and uh these
Protectors like I’ve went through a Bank drive-thru where it’s like you’re in the middle and it’s really tight and you just hear like like just a scraping noise and then you pull out and there’s like three protectors broken on the ground but your Rim’s fine that that that’s
Happened a few times and other than that like we’ve been spending a good amount on just getting like art framed and put in the house I know when you were in art bowel you talked about picking out some stuff for the living room did you get
That by the way did they ship it yet no next month I think yeah I I’ve had things where like I buy the physical in June and then I don’t get it until January it’s like just kind of how it can go with that but we’re finally to
The point where we’ve been like going to Restoration Hardware planning out our [ __ ] room with Dimensions like mapping it all out ordering furniture and it’s been fun it’s uh definitely stressful because you’re not like everything takes forever and everything’s really expensive and you’re just like what if I don’t like it what
If we spend four eth or five eth on this couch and it sucks I like it in the store but like oh we’re getting different Upholstery and like what if the cat [ __ ] it up yeah but it’s been fun I know you were I got that I liked
Is uh we got electric toothbrushes very nice oh yeah the the oral [ __ ] I think the Oral B like 40 bucks or something my teeth feel cleaner than they ever have yeah you replace the tip like every I I think I only replace I I’m I’m slow with it
I’ve replace like every 3 months but I’m pretty sure I’m supposed to do it sooner it makes me want to brush my teeth and then it has the timer like that two-minute timer where it just turns off so you know like you’re done when it turns off there’s no like oh how long
Have I been doing this for um I haven’t I’ve also been buying those little flosser things like the um yeah theck but floss yes I floss every day because of that like I don’t I didn’t floss ever with the other [ __ ] so much easier you
Just put kind of like bite down and it goes in pull it out yeah and I didn’t realiz until going to the dentist last year that like when you floss you’re not supposed to just go like Up and Down in the Hole you’re supposed to like push it
Against one side of the tooth pull up push it against the other side of the tooth pull like I was just literally like going down smashing my gum pulling it up going onto the next tooth uh but yeah that’s the [ __ ] you learn as you become like 30 years old you’re like oh
How do I like correctly floss um yeah I know we’ve been going for about an hour and you got to run soon um I had another question I’ll ask it if you have anything off the top of your head it’s that what’s the most insightful piece of content that you’ve
Read or listened to this year or maybe there isn’t something super insightful but what I’ve been doing over the last six months is spending a lot of time just like binge listening to old podcast that I didn’t keep up with last Bull Run and trying to properly
Um just think about things outside of our space like been really loving Acquired and the founders pod especially but just like trying to get other unique insights that are not directly related to crypto so that maybe I can bring them back to crypto and have more unique
Perspectives on what we’re looking at um curious if anything I’m looking to see if there’s any audio books I’ve done over the last few that I think I’m not really much of a you big audible is that is that your platform I enjoyed never SPL the difference listen that oh by Chris Voss
Yeah I thought that was really good I read that last year I think yeah it’s just good to know like negotiating stuff to I mean obviously it’s better to make like better negotiations but it’s almost too like protective it’s like okay I want to make sure like when I’m negotiating with
Other people I’m not just like [ __ ] myself over by being uh very like I’m somebody who’s super agreeable and like probably not the best negotiator sometimes and a book like that is is helpful for realizing like okay I can take like a Firm Stance and still really like the person that I’m negotiating
With yeah I’m also just I’m like not someone who likes negotiating like it’s not something not exciting to me or interesting I’m more happy to argue with someone about something I love arguing but like I’m not the like if someone tells me something cost that certain
Amount okay sure you’re not like I get like 5% cheaper yeah um and so I’m not sure how much I will really apply it to my everyday life but I thought it was pretty interesting um did you tap into the Elon Musk biography at all no to be honest I
Like I know that Elon Musk one probably has has like a lot more going on in it because of who he is but like I am in general super disinterested in like any of like the business oriented intent like like Acquired and the fact SP stuff I have like literally negative
Interest I don’t know what it is I just I don’t find it interesting I get why help pool it can make you better at business and stuff but like I don’t know I it’s not something that like gets me going um and so like same with like the Elon
Stuff like to be honest I just don’t really care Elon I don’t really care what you what his story is or or that much about him um which I’m sure it’s interesting but there’s just like other things I’d rather spend my time learning about have you uh I listen to it on
Audible while traveling the summer um I I really liked it because I think it gives a lot of well- needed like perspective it also makes me like kind kind of bearish on Twitter um just like I don’t know you kind of leave it feeling like he bit off of more than he
Can chew he’s very good with atoms and he’s very good with like very hard engineering problems in the real world but then like social problems are so different than physical problems and like human psychology is not super rational um and it’s not just like you know gravity works this way and forces
And physics work this way it’s like humans operate in their own [ __ ] head and it’s a spectrum of behavior even if the inputs are the same yeah it’s not like there’s empirical truth to yeah there’s not like you know E equals MC s but for human behavior um yeah so I’m
Definitely like I think it gave me a better perspective on why he succeeded at the things that he’s really good at and how he may not succeed in things he’s not as good at but in general yeah I can see what you’re saying where you’re spending a lot of time learning
About these people and you may only walk away with like a few bits and pieces that may be applicable to your own life um I just have always been more of like I like like history of [ __ ] that like historian mentality yeah that’s how my
Dad is like my dad’s like a your dad probably knows like everything about World War II like everything about old ships like old guns I just got the new biography about Thomas Jefferson more excited to read it and I’m like that’s awesome man I canot care less about
Thomas Jefferson no I feel that yeah I think um most of the content I’ve consumed has been that and then a little bit of like my first million or it’s very similar like people talk to people who went from like zero to one whether it’s they made $10 million founding
Something and exiting it or they’re still working on it or whatever um do think it is good just to have like different perspectives of ways that you can get lucky or be successful but you can never copy like at the end of the day it’s all about okay what are you
Good at what are your strong suits how can you use those to make the most successful decisions possible with your unique set of skills like the people who read that stuff and then just try to copy what other people did they just aren’t going to have a good time because
They don’t have the same skills that those people had it’s very hard to be successful anything by copying someone else exactly so I think maybe the more I read them the more I I understand that because I think when we’re younger we’re trying to find a prescription or like a
Thing where it’s like oh like this person wakes up and does a cold plunge and then works out and then goes in the sauna and like if I just do that every morning then like maybe I’ll be successful too and it’s like well yeah I don’t know I don’t think that’s how it
Works I I don’t think you can just do hard things in the morning and then like your brain is going to just give you the path to make millions of dollars afterwards like maybe it’ll make it easier to do harder things to make money in the future because you’re forcing
Yourself to do hard things but like you don’t just like show up and and do a few hard things and then make a bunch of money yeah and a lot of it too just teaches me patience like a lot of these people uh just like Soul price from
Price Club before like Costco and [ __ ] like the dude wasn’t really doing um anything that he was super good at until he’s in his 40s like there’s these people like um the guy I think his name’s Gaston Glock the guy behind the Glock Firearms like I don’t think he
Made Glocks until he was 50 years old like he did all this other [ __ ] in his life and then at the age of 50 was like oh I could do this and like then he does it for 30 or 40 years until he’s 90 and
Dies but it just kind of gives me this like longer term perspective of I’m like we’re only 30 like we have a lot of time left to figure out what we’re doing and then it’s okay to kind of transform yourself like you know it’s okay to get a a new identity and
Shed the old one like for me just working at my old job in an IT job I didn’t really like I had this certain perceived like self-perception of myself like I’m nerdy you know I’m skill capped I’m like never going to make more money than this like whatever and then crypto
Things happen and it’s like okay I feel like a snake shedding a skin or something where it’s like I need to take on a whole new identity I’m like not this person first name last name at the shitty it job but like now I’m on Twitter and in this space and I don’t
Know where I’m going with that other than like I think it has taught me that a lot of the most successful people go through those different transformative experiences and that like even if you’re 30 or 40 or 50 or 60 like you can always transform into something else um you’re
Not really behold to your self image yeah well I think like the big thing there too is just like I think this is especially true on like crypto Twitter but also just true on like most tech bro Twitter things the people I like don’t really like that stuff is like I think
So many people their like entire personal identity is caught up in like either their job or making it or making a certain amount of money and like I think it’s just like such a horrible way to live your life all the credentials too like oh it’s like oh you’re a teal
Fellow oh I got a MBA from Harvard like oh I got my PhD from MIT and then I went to Facebook and worked and then I went to Spotify and worked it’s like you just accumulated a whole bunch of accolades that are now your identity and that’s
Not really exciting like I almost trust people more when I don’t see any accolades like if I don’t know you and I click on your Twitter profile and the first thing I read is like Forbes 30 under 30 uh MIT PhD Harvard MBA like whatever like I discount what they say
Way more than when I click on it and it’s just like I like to [ __ ] post um I just yeah there’s like something too try hard about it it doesn’t feel authentic and I think like if you like find and you know maybe for them that’s
Like truly what brings them joy in life and in that case like awesome that is just like really not what brings me joy in life no um I I like what I’m working on and I think it’s like interesting and fun but like at the end of the day if if
That wasn’t what I did like as long as I can have my friends and my family and my wife and our cats and go to the gym and watch some sports I think I’d be pretty good no matter what I was doing um and so I think like when you’re kind
Of in that mindset it’s it’s a little bit easier to like reimagine your career or like what you’re doing because it’s not like your entire identity that you’ve built up over time it’s instead like the thing you’re doing and if you find something that intersects your
Niches well and you want to do it like you can go for it but it’s not like oh I don’t know if this fits my 10year plan or something oh my God yeah dude I like people ask me about 10year plans it’s like dude I have like a a one-year plan
Like and it’s it’s not even that locked in it’s like fluid there’s no like 10-year plan outside of want to have a kid and a healthy family it’s not like oh I need to do this for my career and then within two years I need to jump to
This thing and do it so maybe that’s what I I get the most comfort in from learning about other successful people it’s just like for a lot of people it’s just never clear until they look back in hindsight yeah that it’s not like there’s this one path that success takes
And there’s a million different ways you can do it yeah for sure um I know we are going over an hour and uh you got to run and do some things so all right I hear my cats go take care of Larry is they start fighting with each other
Because they know that it’ll get our attention and so they are [ __ ] going is Larry the instigator in that like is he fighting they both are I mean Larry definitely rils L up um but my last parting thought and this we’re getting into dangerous territory here but we’ve
Been talking about how Larry’s like definitely bored and whether or not he needs another sibling who was younger a younger male cat him yeah we’re also talk about getting another cat defitely gets closer to like crazy family territory but dude I think you should get another
One like I think people have a weird perception of cats still um you obviously you you know like it’s not even close to a dog like it’s probably easier to take care of 10 cats than a dog get expensive yeah I was like legitimately looking online the other
Day I was looking at um at Main Coons that’s what we’re looking at yeah I mean they’re [ __ ] cute they don’t shed they’re like a dog yeah my one issue is that like I think you might have to wipe their butts um oh really like they get so matted and hairy yeah I
Think so can you like groom it though like like shave I’m sure I me we have to wipe Larry’s butt sometimes so it is what it is oh we never have toes like that would kind of tilt me he threw up right before this now to clean that up
But there’s no like um no so moa’s fine she’s always good every once in a while Larry walk past you and you’ll be like dude you did not clean up after yourself you got to go clean them up it’s pretty gross take him into the bathroom you
Have like a spray hose and you’re just spraying it as his and he [ __ ] hates it too you gota like you gota like touch him and hold him and he just he’s so mad but you got you gotta do is that like a daily or a weekly thing like I didn’t
Even didn’t realize weekly week yeah weekly bi-weekly it’s not super often okay it’s like every time he shits that would be so that would tilt the living [ __ ] out of me if every time our cat [ __ ] that I had to wipe his ass like a geriatric
Adult yeah that’d be awful but yeah so all have to say Ally and I are seriously talking about potentially getting a third cat like a young male we were saying to because like our one concern we have is like Larry and Lola are such good siblings like they get along with
We we’ve got a good thing going here that we don’t want to [ __ ] up um and so like our one concern if we brought another cat in is that it would like mess up that Dynamic they’ be fighting all whatever um Lola Lola is a little bit more skittish so like maybe she
Would hide or something um but so like if we got a maincoon they’re like in such high demand that like if we got one and had it for two weeks and it was just like a [ __ ] nightmare and it didn’t work giving it away yeah like we would
Post if I post it on Twitter I have a mun free to someone who where it would go to a good home pay what you paid for around us they’re like U I think two to five grand depending on where you get it what exact um type of maincoon it is and
That stuff they’re [ __ ] cute though too they’re they’re really cute cats oh I I grew up around a couple of them we didn’t have any main Coons but we had friends with them and they were always the most like docile chill cats they were always around company like they
Didn’t ever run away and they were just like super chill they want to roll around on the floor be next to you like get rubs they weren’t scratching up couches and doing a bunch of like crazy stupid [ __ ] so I’ve really F I think Larry might be
Like half mum because one he’s really big he’s a but also he uh like his his fur is really soft like it’s really really soft and he he you know he was found under a truck in New York New Jersey so who knows what he is um
Wouldn’t that also make Lola half main too no that’s from the same litter can have different fathers so have multiple multiple dads mom mom is just getting a whole mix just had six different kids cuz like Larry and Lola’s like they’re one they’re side like sizewise they’re totally different um
But then also like the texture of their skin and some of their other like facial features and stuff are a little bit different and a lot of Larry stuff does kind of feel a little bit Muny and so we wonder if maybe Mom wasn’t but like his
Dad was or something something like that because it seems like you might be well I I’m definitely all for you getting another cat um and then if you if you don’t if you decide you don’t like it um we we we will talk talk to you about taking it
Off your hands because we definitely but this has been fun man well I’m excited to do more Duo pods in 2024 I think we’ll do them quite a bit more frequently I think as the bull market picks up too there’s just like a lot more to talk about we didn’t really talk
About too many uh weekly or current events but like just [ __ ] like today like crypto zoo and Logan Paul buying back customer bags and stuff there’s just a lot of fun stuff to talk about again and it finally feels like a lot of people who are building
For most of the bear are now delivering what they’ve built and we get to dive in and check it out play with it really cool to see a lot of our old testra teammates building cool things with new companies I was talking to Diego about Celestia talking to will about iyk and a
Few others but it’s just cool to see like the crew building cool [ __ ] in the space even though we’re not all together anymore yeah no totally it’s actually just talking to Diego uh yesterday about talking to Celestia for ikb you can together why um but hey man we’ll see
I’m excited thanks for taking the time and we’ll wrap this up and hopefully uh when people hear from us next they’ll be hearing some IRL content that we record in a couple weeks all right all right thanks
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