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Boom and we’re live guys we are back we just missed the opening break this is the first shot after the break between feder Gorst and uh Vincent B rage welcome to the stream everybody that was waiting let me get the chat popped out so we can make sure we don’t
Miss any of that action the chat is actually already popping off holy crap 160 people were waiting to watch this match so apparently some people know about this guy uh Vincent huh we go fancy Jersey on he’s got to be able to run out right yeah exactly he’s got
His jersey on right we got J uh Jay Diddy with us on the uh on the mic this time we get a little bit of uh back and forth and he can see you guys in the chat as well what’s up Ken Harwell Jason money what’s going on the NSA is
Watching says nice let’s go I like that YouTube handle very cool the NSA is watching all right nine Hagen over the pocket in this rack Check It Out Slow Rolling it misses the whole ball miss the whole ball well you trus in the table rubbing his head there that would
Be too oh you know what I just realized I got to adjust the sound levels cuz you’re going to be super quiet uh give me a second like half there yeah Johnny Johnny Archer Captain America is out of the tournament oh that’s right he’s out of the tournament
Did he cash I don’t know if he cashed or not but he lost the Shaw and Donnie Mills Donnie Mills just knocked him out nine to five in the last round does anyone in the chat know if if uh Captain America cashed Archer cash there you go there you
Go he cashed oh my gosh nobody said that uh yo what’s up 39 39 goes down one I told you nine sitting over the pocket’s going to be uh dangerous in that rack especially if you give the guy ball in hand and he’s got a jersey
On and his Fargo is 678 and this is a final eight of the winers round right right the winner here plays a good player or wait is that match over yet there’s a 750 Fargo playing in the other other side it’s it’s either uh Casper or Eric oh that’s right Casper is
The guy out of Finland right I don’t know his I don’t think he has a Fargo no he he’s a good player and then Eric Eric’s I can’t pronounce his name but he’s also a good player he beat he beat actually beat VI pater the feds driver so my buddy helping me out
Here there was a line at the bar top and that’s the that’s the bottom half of the final eight so the winner of this match here will play the winner of Casper Eric and then on the top the top side the top four on the winner side is Rodney Morris versus Jonathan
Smith and wed Hashim versus eiz Shaw okay so those are our final eight and Vincent here has a Fargo of 678 so we’ll see how he breaks him gotcha little soft there one ball came short he’s not going to like it I don’t think drives a bone feder gets another
Chance at the table here one to nil I see someone in the chat saying that Donnie Mills is playing Kevin Clark right right now so I after Kevin Clark’s performance last night I’m sure there’s a hefty handful of people in this chat that are watching two tables right
Now yeah it’s actually pretty cool I was on uh YouTube earlier so dogging it is dogging it Joey Ryan is streaming a table and you got Upstate alll it’s streaming a table um and then you obviously have feder that’s done every one of his matches so you we also got uh shark
Stream covering some stuff that the digital pool stream Syndicate is putting out and the uh there’s another guy out of Pennsylvania it’s called the Pennsylvania the PA what did it what do he call it I forget there’s another Channel out there that’s covering the action too that’s awesome yeah I think
And and they’re all free right yeah all those streams are free on YouTube yeah that’s great Pennsylvania proam is what it’s called oh my gosh feder’s gonna feder’s gonna give up ball in hand again he’s been to the table twice and he’s given up ball in hand twice without even
Being without even being hooked yeah what are you doing feder I mean come on feder knock it off yeah I haven’t even taken a peak but I’m not sure how many are left on the loser side I know that MOA John MOA knocked out Italy
Petura okay so uh Mr ha is on the out yeah and then and then MOA went on to beat and knock out Frankie Hernandez so MO is playing Jimmy Rivera right now that’s who fed her beat last round was Jimmy Rivera um and then obviously and another big
Upset a hill hill match that just went it was actually on Upstate alst stream was uh torist to Homan losing to Ron oh yeah that’s right Cassano that’s right so Ron Cassano is going on to play Matt crawl you know honestly Kevin Clark is playing Donnie Mills yeah honest of all
The uh all the winter side players still on the winter side obviously I’m you know stoked about our boy being here looking like he’s playing good generally speaking up until this moment uh and then Rodney Morris I’m stoked about because uh you know he’s he’s playing
For for two guys you know what I’m saying which is kind of cool that he’s not in it for himself he’s I mean obviously he probably wants the title but and to to snap off a tournament would be cool for Rodney I’m sure but to
Be able to get some money out there to M IM and would probably be really cool for him too yeah I saw that he was playing for the icean yeah and I’m not really sure what Vince was doing there but ack kick here yeah this is kind of
Tricky this getting this two ball to where it’s not playable kick did okay now you probably just lay the Q ball up past the the seven right if you can hit the two thin enough yeah he’s got to be careful though cuz he could Le leave a pretty easy kick easy kick yeah
But we’ll see we’ll see it looks it’s tough to tell from this angle if the three passes the six but I’m I’m thinking he is going to be able to do the shot that you’re you’re talking about just using the seven for some cover here I mean it’d be
Great if he got him in between the seven in the rail you know what I mean like on the back side of the seven right there I mean obviously you got to you got to have a perfect touch for that but it’s a it’s a shot that’s there it looks like
Maybe kind of tough to tell from here yeah take away the one real kick but he’s obviously not thrilled no I think he’s really close to the deuce so a little bit tougher here he’s he’s looking at thinning this ball and trying to get some separation but
He’s got to be careful with the kiss there or or maybe he’s looking at kissing the two past the seven like a double kiss there’s a one pocket kiss like if you like a shot in one hole where if you get good at it you can stop the rock
Near the hole with the double kiss you know what I mean he’s kicking oh he’s kicking the two past the seven yeah this is really risky especially with the bridge and getting enough speed on it to get a rail as well I mean yeah I think he should go with your
Shot your first shot just trying to get a little bit of a containing hook with the seven ball this get in really bad yeah yeah yeah you basically give up give up all control right there Eagle ASA checking in on feder gor’s Match and if they both continue to
Win they’ll both play for the hot seat they’ll meet in two rounds from now if they both continue to win feder and Shaw that is we back baby what’s up Javy wraps what’s going on we got Jackie diamond in the chat cute time what’s going On I’d be going at this ball pretty slow like pocket speed kick he’s going at it hard oh and he gets a little was that a fluke or was it wired I don’t know he hit it like it was wired didn’t he I might have to watch
That back we’ll we’ll see what he does right here and then we can watch it back together it’s tough to tell here if he can get underneath the N ball I don’t think he can shoot here being a right-handed player he was Lefty he may
Be able to cut at this ball but he’s going to have to play some kind of safe here I believe maybe he can play oh the the almost South PA no way the fake he had some pretty awkward he’s had some pretty awkward shots for having ball in hand twice in
Two racks huh well yeah I guess you could say that this is another real awkward one even the fourball even the fourball messes with the bridge there okay if he’s going to take a second I want to see that shot that we just witnessed let’s go back right here oh if
You get between the rail and the two it looks like it might be dead we’ll see if if he should have in yeah yeah it sure was wired yeah it looks like it might have been calculated Nice Shot touche pretty unfortunate if you’re fet there to he might playing the QQ ball
Behind the three here if he can miss the nine or maybe the Q ball under the nine oh yeah real slow but gets a kiss off off the point A little nudge off the point instead of wedging him to the nine fer might be able to see the edge of this
Ball yeah I think you can see the whole ball just based on Vincent’s body language it looked like he was not thrilled with the outcome you know what I mean could play the little uh a little roll up on the four maybe maybe or I don’t know this is kind of a
Sticky spot maybe it might be time to uh unleash the powers of the ghost and just Bank this two ball yeah and he also he he could try to run the Q ball up into the six here he’s going to play the two up there ball back to the my God what a
Shot oh my God the extended table tap you can actually sees you saw the chick like over here on the side tapping the table right here like the what a fantastic shot that was pretty good that that’s I mean any pool player in the chat knows looking at that shot I’m
Terrified to shoot that shot because I’m I’m going to scratch you know what I mean yeah and and the pockets the pockets are playing big yeah I’ve been watching a couple matches so there’s been a lot of scratches just cu the pockets are so much bigger than what
They’re used to playing on at least over last six to eight months I mean there’s no way to get to this ball he’s he’s pointing at the one spot and it’s like if you move a quarter inch to the right you you don’t even hit the
Three it goes so far to the right because you’re so close to the rail right there yeah it sucks because he can’t really tie up the 95 CU he could wire it so right but that may be the play maybe the play is trying to uh tie up the
95 this is about type of way as blind a kick as you could you could be shooting that like in the game this is really really really tough yeah he was close Andy opened up the three exactly opens up the problem balls mhm yeah see what he does here is he is he
Lining up to 29 is he lining up to 29 I mean the balls lay really quite good I mean obviously the five maybe is is blocked by the nine but the four is on that end of the table you know what I mean yeah I mean it’s it doesn’t look
Terribly difficult to get onless it’s Frozen I mean it could be frozen to the rail there I mean the 29’s not terrible either The Nine’s real close to the pocket I’d say whatever he chooses he probably wins the rack well I mean he could go at the he could go at the five
Some kind of way with the four to if he’s yeah it goes it’ll be fine here you know what I just learned uh last night about feder’s nickname the ghost that I didn’t I never thought of before because I thought that it was only his nickname because it sounded similar to gor
Right and then someone in the chat was like no it’s cuz if you miss you lose like when you’re playing The Ghost and I’m like oh that’s good that’s like really good cuz I mean it’s pretty accurate most of the time I mean obviously everybody’s human but if you
Want to pick a guy on the planet that’s a close to to playing the ghost as anybody anybody else it’s probably this guy yeah they got perfect here Collins because he’s going to be able to Bridge and and not worry about the nine ball so that little little bit of angle there is
Exactly what he wanted right you don’t you don’t have to do a ton with the Q ball here too because the the six is so close to the pocket you know you don’t got to get real close to it you can play the up and back if you want to pretty
Easy you probably just see him roll this ball with some high English and take the cut on the six a little bit past the side pocket I’d say oh he went all the way out oh but if you’re feder if you’re the ghost why not just get Ballin hand position on every
Shot wow wow looking like we’re going to be tied up at one all if you’re just now tuning in with us this is uh race to nine winter break it is rack for your opponent that’s right so we’ll we’ll see how Vincent puts them
In the rack I also want to give a shout out to uh digital pool and uh Upstate Al for you know getting Fetter the the okay to do these streams so shout out to them make sure you’re subscribed to digital pool on YouTube or following Upstate Al on on
Facebook that’s where all the featured table matchups are going to take place on those streams so um yeah shout out to them yeah and I would say probably this will be one of fed’s last matches on his own on this channel I would imagine probably this one may be one more at
Some point depending on how the schedule goes but um but yeah that’s probably pretty safe to say all right here we go yeah we we asked um the chat multiple times for for good nicknames for the for Fetter I mean he’s he has the ghost but it’s not like official official his his
Nickname well he put it on the match room thing the poster that’s what they put on I mean it’s it’s it is his nickname but I think if he got a better one he would go I’m never going to call him I’m never going to call him fed the
Ghost Gorst it’s never going to happen but if I’m talking about the guy and not really mentioning his name you know kind of like Steve house out here is called the roofer right yeah yeah fed oh yeah oh you played the ghost before there you
Go Oh no I got to go play a few sets with the ghost you know I mean the bad thing is is you wouldn’t really know who you’re talking about are you talking about the game the ghost him so he really does need a nickname what what do
They say in hav’t found one what do they say in chat land usually i i y k YK if you know you know if you know you know yeah I mean I I I agree with Chad John’s I like the Russian robot Jason Foster says he needs no
Nickname that is the classic the Russian robot yeah I like the Russian robot they’re both very descriptive and accurate the Russian robot or the ghost the ghost almost works but but doesn’t fully work I mean it’s it’s close once once you get that context but
Uh we got our boy Vincent Bo rage right now in a in a kicking spot or a pushing spot he’s pushing out here pushing to a jump for feder I think he I think he left it in I think he left him a shot even if he didn’t this is a
Jump that feder’s going to shoot at almost every day cuz you can you can kind of use that nine to control the Q ball it’s a full table jump too which is Handy for a full Q jump but you’re you’re probably right he can see the ball I think just based on
Vincent’s body language it look like he left it maybe a little massay he looks like he’s going to jack up a little bit here maybe just over the edge of the ball no he’s got it no he is he’s got it yeah he’s probably trying to beat the three
He’s probably going to try to punch and miss the nine and the three and try to come two rails and play the two down here in the bottom left right where he stand yeah that’s going to take some serious touch man but that but that’s the reason why he’s that’s the reason
Why he’s elevating just a just a smidge that’s what he’s going to try to do here lot of traffic at this shot look at the five yep that’s look at this shot perfect and he’s got an angle here to where he can he can miss the six and go
Two rails or three rails back to the three oh are you talking about this shot oh no that’s whoops whoops I got to get my screen straight here talking about this baby right yep something like that yeah that was a that was a really sweet sweet shot he put on the last one
To miss the three and the nine that wasn’t easy had to elevate a little bit to do it and this one he doesn’t look thrilled with it doesn’t look like he can he can beat the six Collins just based on his body language so he he may have to take
Some chances here and just go off of the six I think it takes the scratch out of place so if you just load up with high and inside you might you might get the Q Ball moving but you’re gambling yeah I mean with nine ball pull though
The best players they gamble quite often yeah safe all the way disturb the nine I think he got this soker and there’s no jump qes in this tournament you can use your full q but you cannot use the jump Q so this is actually pretty handy safety well use your full
Break que as well right it just has to be a full que yeah you can’t you just can’t use the sh trust me after last night we’re all hoping that Kevin Clark makes the finals okay guys and that dude must have played unbelievable everybody’s talking about
You haven’t seen the set man if you haven’t seen the set you got to I mean if you got an hour to kill at some point in the next 48 hours you just got to watch it for sheer entertainment value the dude was just shooting at everything huh I I
Mean everything was working right till the end and and he was he’s like splitting the uprights with every shot you know like just outrageous stuff constantly it was it was really cool to watch and and you can tell it’s just the way he plays the game you know and he’s
A 720 Fargo and uh yeah it was it was really cool you know I I really like that though that’s that’s the thing that I think is is good about nine balls is the great equalizer it’s it’s similar to like play on the bar table once you get
To a certain skill level nine ball is is a fairly easy game and if you have a lot of Firepower I mean you can beat anybody in a race to nine yeah I mean let’s see here he’s probably going to be he may be shooting here we go he is perfect speed
On the Q ball look at the tap on the knee from uh Vincent there in the chair Louise I’d say he’s um I’d say he’s found the speed of the tables yeah I think based on his safety plays and positional play thus far yeah first day he kind of struggled
With the speed a little bit and I think maybe the first match but I mean once feder’s dialed like this he’s I mean really he’s so tough to beat but guys like Jason Shaw right uh even guys like Rodney Morris are guys that can go go after him in in with table conditions
Like this because they’ll just you know anytime they get a look at anything just get out you know yeah and I mean you know you know how I feel like I I sincerely think and you know I don’t think I know that feder is a decent Siz favorite against Jason STW playing
Rotation pool but in this format with with the table conditions and racking for each other and a race to nine it is absolutely a 50/50 coin flip like it’s there’s just so much variance in it it’s it’s crazy but you know I we’ll see it’s it’s been tough cuz I
Feel like that Shaw’s kind of had fed’s number as of late yeah yeah especially on any any race less than what like 20 20 to 30 or whatever right they haven’t played a long race like that in a while right yeah they hav’t I mean I just I
Feel like Shaw’s kind of gotten the best of him well he beat him in Hanoi I believe um and that’s when feder conceded and he had five or six balls and he kind of caught some over it but oh yeah I remember that yeah yeah I think you and I did a stream
Together shortly after that happened and we talked about it yeah two balls away from taking his first lead of the match here is feder Gorst couple nice position plays and nice qball control so far Collins yeah looking real good about a thing see if we can go out
Here and check on some of the scores see we can get an update here what is it someone in the chat said that F said FedEx is best like calling him the FedEx the Federal Express the Federal Express looks like Rodney Morris is trailing Jonathan Smith 2 to one he’s
About to he’s about to ship his opponent to the one LW Side Federal Express Federal Express Federal but f e d o r l e looks like Shaw is leading on the the table on the north side of our screen there Shaw’s up three to one but it looks like w Le’s running
Out I think that was John in the chat said FedEx feder expecting the rack here must have got slugged last time huh yeah maybe didn’t break apart the way he was hoping yeah he normally doesn’t doesn’t do a whole lot of that I’m sure him and sh will get into it
Oh a two go and it will another tricky little spot here Donald Porter in the chat says we don’t need to see the announcers can’t we just hear the commentators why do we need to see the commentators because we’re so goodlook why would you not want
To see that’s why I put this guy on screen come on give me take my shirt off what do you want from me how are we supposed to show off our uh Coca-Cola not a sponsor Coke if you want to do a deal let me know doesn’t want to look at us huh
We’re that ugly uhuh who was that Donald Potter why do we have to watch these guys talk hey Donald Potter Potter no one’s making you watch the [Laughter] stream I’m sorry if I had a nam doal Potter I’d probably too well Whoa we’re just having a good time I’m not no real talk Donald the reason the reason uh feder and I have have uh kind of decided together to go this route is number one every other streaming format on the planet that isn’t doing like the typical Sports Broadcast model
Uh has the the person who’s talking on screen like any like chess like any video game like uh even a lot of sports out there like if you watch other streams of sports a lot of the like basically every stream that exists has the person who’s talking on screen so
You can see how that person is actually emoting because you can’t always pick that up via voice and uh you can see when I’m interacting with the chat when Jason’s you know it it just makes it feel a little bit more personal so we’re doing this because it’s a much more ch
Vibe stream we’re not here to educate you guys necessarily we’re here to sweat it with you guys you know we’re streamers not commentators that’s right Kev Massie but thanks for asking Donald hopefully you like it and I hope you don’t mind we take a
Dig at you we just we get the question a lot so it’s not you personally and I’m just kind of here to be the jackass so sorry about that Donald yeah J Diddy’s always J Diddy’s never afraid to just say something which which we like we’re I mean we’re always
Going to be here to have a good time like I said we’re just sweating the match with you guys and the only thing that Collins picture is covering up is a little old lady in the top right hand corner so we can move that there you go she doesn’t
Look that old oh no actually I think that’s Christina’s Dad I think look it’s Christina’s Dad yeah you got Christina’s dad there in the black and white jacket yeah better right on mhm we can we could show him more often if you would like Donald here we go back to the
Game it’s pretty crafty little shot there a nice shot yeah look at his Q ball on the short rail too Arthur I’m not sure if that’s you but if it’s the same Arthur that was um that was watching the real pool talks podcast here on feder’s channel we still
Owe you a signed copy of the billiard’s digest so make sure you uh reach out I think that’s Arthur Rob said put Christina’s dad back on looks like we’re we’re getting a ref over here to call a hit really little gamesmanship here I love it Ricard Robins says we love you
Collins even after the Molina mic picture that was a good picture oh that was brutal man I did not see that coming what are we doing that is going to be a bad hit I don’t think it was bad I think it was good I think he made it are you kidding
Me wow what a shot that was wow I’m glad they had the ref there cuz I would have called a [Laughter] foul from the camera anyway yeah I think it was a split hit I’m surprised that ref made it made that call that quick though yeah it was
It was fast you know there’s a the the tournament director here at Hard Times Brian laflame he’s a great guy uh super smart guy uh he’s got a good good sense of humor but like he’s he does a lot of you know calls like on the throughout
And and he’s very uh Fair with his calls but he says he says uh I forget who told him this but when he was at some big event somewhere and he was talking to a bunch of the refs that had been doing referee work for a long time he says
They basically told me if you ever have a close hit call and like just make the call as quickly as possible and stick with it no matter what and if you’re not sure immediately if it was a good hit or a bad hit just call it good and walk away that’s good advice
Confidence is key in a lot of those situations o lovely little uh jelly roll there can I zoom in on a replay I’m I’m a little bit curious to check it out let me uh let me see if I can do this on the side where it won’t cover anything up
For J Diddy actually J Diddy I’m going to move you to a different screen just cover me up we’ll be all right no I’ll I’ll I’ll move you to a different screen you can watch over here there you go uh and then I got to go right There looks like the seven ball is super tight huh why am I streaming in 360p I don’t know hey guys watching at home in the chat are is your quality capped at 360p please let me know in the chat cuz if it is then something’s
Wrong I saw somebody say it was Fuzzy so let me go out to uh let me see if that’s something I can change on the fly or not no M’s at 720 720 1080p 60 that’s so weird my playback on the stream is capped at 360p
Okay thanks for letting me know guys at least things are okay in the world it’s actually going to be tough to see yeah looks pretty good so score three to one now o guys guys I think we got away with one on that one really yeah I’m going to show you
The the playback right now uh let me get it set Up here it is oh let me reset the transform one second guys where is it right here reset boom here it is oh you can’t see this hold on let me make sure you can see this switch screen sharing boom okay here we go in slow
Motion I don’t know guys you think we got away with one oh it was bad for sure yeah I got feelings that it was bad play it one more time hold on let’s make sure we’re not missing anything okay we’re good to go he’s still racking still racking
We’ll play it one more time guys oh no what happened I lost the spot oh man here we go they’re not watching this yet I got to get it queued up so that everyone else can watch we’ll watch Fed break and then I’ll let you guys watch it one more
Time I think it was bad Collins I think it was bad too that was my gut feeling when it first happened one ball straight in the side there but he’s not going to have a Peak at the two so he’s going to be rolling out somewhere
Here okay here we go let’s watch it real quick quick yeah for sure that was definitely a bad hit huh guys well the guy took your advice just acted like he knew what he was talking about said it was good and he walked away okay let’s see what the chat has to
Say about it Patrick Glenn says looks good here no crap Jason Mooney says Collins I was at a tournament two months ago and Cliff Joiner had a postup t-shirt on that’s cool someone in the chat just saying no good hit that was a good hit for sure It would probably be hard to call yeah if you’re at normal speed but yeah I always call the foul after the fact after on our boy after the fact after he’s already run out walk away just wipe the hands and walk away this is a weird little spot here
Because he can’t really get anywhere can the player say anything to the ref William I don’t think so the player in the chair no oh he’s probably getting this one yeah he’s probably getting this one back yeah what do you think fed sees some kind of
Jump I mean I think he can see the edge of the ball but how do you get safe I think the only shot there is something like maybe uh it’s not even there I don’t think even think it lays there to get over here no it doesn’t lay
There I guess you could play the two over you could play the you could play the two over by the six and try to get the Q allall back up maybe use the five or something but yeah look at Vincent trying to figure something out he just
Doesn’t want to give it back to feder because obviously he had some kind of plan right it may it may even be an offensive shot in the bottom right oh it went do you think maybe he was just trying to convince himself that the ball went I don’t
Know cuz he missed that by almost the whole Ball’s width once you get across the table it’s tough to tough to say lamula Garcia says I thought a fan could call fouls like what happened to Scott Frost hey they got they got Scott frost a commentator’s job at the uh aone yeah
Exactly got got uh one bad call from the from the crowd gets him on the payroll I’m just roasting mat room if you’re watching come on it’s just a joke they’re not watching they’re not watching no a red door Den Training Center Greg hoges in the in the chat huh oh nice
What’s up Spanky Spanky let’s see some more of them training videos quit me going dark on us oh look at this Q ball look at the touch on that Q ball man real nice shot definitely um definitely feels like he’s found the speed here Shaw’s match is already 6 to two so
They’ve played they’re on their ninth game we’re on our sixth good Lord does Jason Shaw play Fast blazing speed yeah I mean it’s one of those things it’s good and it’s bad right yeah you mean for the player or do you mean for yeah just for situations for Shaw I
Mean sometimes his speed doesn’t allow him to to dog it because he doesn’t think about it but then other times it gets him in trouble cuz he you know plays a little careless sure I mean that’s the the truth for so many of the players that play
Like I mean there’s a couple guys out here that play like that there’s this player named Robert mle who’s like a probably I’d say a solid 600 Fargo but sometimes you’d see him play and it’s like there’s no F in way this guy’s just a 600 because everything he shoots at
Goes and he’s got a decent Q ball on him you know but when it comes to the strategy side of the game his decision- making is a little bit too fast you know so if the balls aren’t spreading apart well uh this quick decision making kind
Of keeps him at that 600 level you know not sha somebody’s asking in the chat if Shaw’s playing with a carbon shaft yeah he’s him and feder actually playing with the same shaft were pictures circulating of Shaw at mosone playing with the white carbon looks like we’re going to get a
Dry break here maybe that fourball went tough to sell tough to tell o nine in front of the hole again with the two there a see making any two four 68 n now it’s dry I think the nine kissed up against the point of the corner there
Which means it’s not as easy as it looks if it is frozen there yeah I mean he could run out here he could play the he could play the two in the in the side pocket he has the right angle to come right back toward the eight ball play the two in the
Side everything else has a hole now Billy syes Archer is out he lost to Donnie Mills N9 to5 last round coming up short Seven’s laying over the corner though well he’s actually on the 50 yard line yeah that’s I I still think he can play in the side
Yeah and he actually he actually can play the it’ll lead him to shape on the three as well not saying it’s an easy shot but if the seven ball the 27 combo doesn’t play we’ll see him shoot at the side here sorry uh Jason I’m going to
Steal your your view for two seconds here oh you’re good here we go oh just play the bank at the nine play the bank at the nine I like that aggressive Choice he did leave a bank or a jump combo though here that I think is too
Juicy to not shoot at Absolute hanger here desperation sitting in I don’t know if it’s quite desperation it’s you got to take your shots you know what I mean when you know you’re the let me put it this way when you know you’re the guy that’s supposed to lose
The match like on paper especially like if you know you’re supposed to lose like 90% plus you got to play a more volatile play style you got to play the play style that’s going to you know you might make the shot less often but when you do
It means you convert the game into a win where the war of attrition that the pros play against each other sometimes you’re like always losing yeah I mean you can’t you can’t go dinking and dunking around against feder yeah but meanwhile no no favors for Vincent here feder missed a a hanger
Hanger jump combo and and hook Vincent look at him just he sat down his queue to think about this one yeah this is just frustration here honestly I think my Q in my hand helps me think better I think this is his way of
Pouting I I I really do I think this is like his way of crying like sitting it down just like are you kidding me right now you just missed the that that combo that bad and this is what I have like this is a show for him a lot of people do
This I think Psy it’s a show if that’s the case I don’t know that’s a little silly yeah it’s just him being a crybaby look dude that’s my favorite thing about you Jason is you don’t pull any punches man just say no I mean it’s the truth
Though like why else would you set your queue down just wants everybody in the crowd to know that he just got unlucky we get it it’s going to happen another four or five times this match you know definitely could let’s figure it out everybody in the chat’s agreeing with you there you
Go he’s looking at a two rail kick here hit it pretty good it’s not Nice Shot very nice yeah I think there’s multiple people in the chat that are in the chat that are capping out at 360p I have no idea why that’s happening I’m looking at my settings and everything should
Be should be good so hopefully you can just refresh the stream or I’ll do some research I checked it on on my uh cell phone colins it was it was great quality okay it was a 720 Auto but it it it definitely wasn’t 360 that’s Doctor disrespect right there
If you heard that yeah anyone I was just pulling out my cell phone YouTube x videos on there whenever you whoa turn it on all right here we go what’s on your cell phone [Laughter] buddy here he goes just go hey Vince go put your Q down again come on you got a
Combo here play it stop oh I honestly you know what I do maybe I might send the two at the seven like rail first and send the Q ball at the nine yeah I mean it’s not a bad shot actually because the two is going to be
Going that way I don’t know if you’re going to get enough speed to get the nine ooh just all out at the nine there you go what a shot man don’t scratching the side on Vin no chance see that happens I mean sometimes if you want
Things to work out for you just put your queue down for a second fold your arms do this and then things might work out do you feel better now I’m sorry okay I had to I had to roll with your joke for a little bit that’s good no dises respective end not we’re
Just being playful but you’re playing one of the best players in the world you got you know you know you’re getting streamed you know there’s a lot of people watching in the crowd there yep and you feel like you’re playing okay and he scratches twice and misses an
Easy jump and then hooks you and you’re like why me smiling now smiling now that’s good let’s see what he gets here yeah that’s interesting on my phone it caps out 1080p but on computer it’s at 360 so everything’s good to go sorry if you’re having issues watch on your cell phone
Yeah here we go see how Vince breaks them four to two is the score rack number seven here we are we’re racing the nine winter break we’re in the final eight on the winner side here at turning stone appreciate everybody tuning in if you haven’t already uh liked and subscribed
And made sure that you uh turned on notifications for fed’s YouTube channel here make sure you do so it’s going to have a lot of pool coming up on this channel following the uh Turning Stone classic here will be at the mini derb at Rail Yard Billiards in Louisville and
Then followed uh very shortly after will be the Derby City Classic where he’ll be he’ll be streaming all matches that he possibly can where he’s not on the acats arena so make sure that you uh subscribe and set notifications for fed’s channel and Jason and I will will try to be as a
Part of as many of those as we can although it is going to be a very busy month so and I’m I do happen to be a working man so yeah H Ste Stephen thank you for the the compliment buddy thank you Jackie Diamond asks hey Jason did
Collins ask you about backing me when I come out to California to play him oh man you don’t know Jackie Diamond do you no I don’t no she’s a she’s a player out of uh she was at the US Open because she lives in Atlantic City or near Atlantic
City I see we got Marty Herman in the chat we need to get him in some action yeah what is it Herman University get him to come out there and try you stum Collins now you quit pool man you told me you’re done you’re done
Playing pool I I’m done for a few months I’ll be back probably March or April depending on on if I feel good about the work I’ve gotten done colins do you play one pocket yeah it’s my favorite game every other game is boring unless you’re watching L like literally world class stuff uh
I get bored after watching nineball for one set but one pocket it’s just way way too interesting of a game I think there’s someone else up in this box in the corner that might agree with me yeah I’m a huge one pocket fan huge one pocket fan you know I like
I like watching I like watching some nine and 10 Ball but it gets pretty boring to me yeah like I said I mean watching rotation there’s got to be some kind of stakes like some decent Stakes you know or uh you know like a tournament like this
Or you know extremely high level play uh that makes it entertaining you know like 700 plus or like 680 plus play is pretty entertaining you know but other than that you know watch I I do a stream twice a week with amateurs playing uh we just did one last night and that’s
Interesting to me because I know the players personally right I know all the players that play on the stream uh and I know like their their character and like their personalities and stuff so it’s like a little bit more interesting for me to watch that but you know just in
General the most entertaining game that I could watch anybody play almost at any level is one pocket because there’s so many different things that can be done at any given moment and like people inter interet you know the table position in different ways too which is kind of an
Interest an interesting thing to talk about so yeah yeah I I will say this I really enjoy the the kind of the new age one pocket with a lot of the Straight Shooters because they’ve changed the game they’ve just they’re so accurate and they can shoot from from so many
Locations now where you know 10 15 years ago it was much more of a moving game now it’s become more of a shooting game obviously you have people like Alex pagul liion and and Scott Frost and different people that can turn it into a moving game really fast and freeze you
To the back of balls but if you’re going to the Derby City Classic or if you’re watching feder or filler play one pocket or Tony Chan it’s it’s super exciting it’s not going to be boring at all it’s not going to be bunting balls around up
Table very often a lot of shooting the the thing that I always say and there’s a few people in the chat that are saying things like oh it’s just really boring to watch and it’s like yeah until you’ve played it a bunch like once you start to really play the game and
Really understand the game well uh the game becomes way more interesting because you see it through different eyes it’s kind of like the analogy that I give is when you start when you first pick up the game of pool versus like a few years later when you start to really understand
Everything that’s happening on the table nine ball is a totally different game to watch Once you understand how to move the Q ball and you know uh thinking a few shots ahead and safety play and all this stuff it becomes more interesting to watch the pros uh same thing happens
For one pocket even if you’re really good at nine ball or eight ball or 10 ball or straight pool or whatever it becomes way more interesting once you’ve invested the time to pick up the game because it’s that complex of a game right so it’s just one of those
Things that you got to it’s it’s an acquired taste and you have to put in the effort to acquire The Taste yeah and if you do I mean honestly I think there’s there’s so many people in the pool community that once they fall in love with one pocket they don’t really
Enjoy any other any of the other disciplines yeah not the same way anyway not the same way yeah yeah and and a lot of those people start off saying oh one pocket’s boring and then when they get into it like you said they start playing it yeah start seeing in the different
Shots that what they would do I was that guy I was Mr nineball like I only liked nineball and uh it’s like the natural progressions though right like people start off and they play nine ball and then they’re like I’m kind of bored with this I’m going to play 10 B ball and
Then you know some in different parts of the country they pick up Banks and the new popular game now is banks by the rail and ring games that way five and six guys can play together and play5 or $10 a rail whatever and then you know they naturally most people graduate to
One pocket right yeah the only thing that really uh I actually got forced into enjoying the game was because uh I picked up streaming and I started streaming two years ago and people wanted to stream their one pocket matches or like people that were watching wanted to see a one pocket
Tournament and I’m like I’m the guy on the mic and I had to bring you know other guys in here to even have any clue what was going on and then you just start to have these these aha moments and then you try to implement it on the
Table and then you come back to the you know watching the videos and and the thing the advantage actually of like learning one pocket while streaming it is you have to like try to articulate your logic out loud about why you’ve come to the decision of your shot
And if it doesn’t make any sense then it’s a bad shot right so it like helps the the thought process about like what’s going to what’s going to help and what’s not yeah and I mean you know the other thing is to consider to to be an elite
Player at the at the top like world class you can do it playing nineball only if you’re going to play nineball but if you want to be an elite World Class 10 ball player obviously you got to develop the break but you also have to develop the Tactical side of it and a
Lot of a lot of one pocket is is playing combos kicking playing really good solid safeties and when you’re playing 10 ball at the highest level in order to compete with Shane Van boning or feder gor or any of the top level guys you have to be
Able to play a tactical side of the game because not everything lays open you have to know how to play combos which you know obviously straight pull and one pocket teach you but the most important thing is you have to learn how to kick and you have to
Learn how to play safe and you have to learn the most important thing that one pocket teaches you as one as as Q ball control it’s perfect for for you know either 10 ball or 15 ball rotation nineball you don’t really have to have a one-pocket knowledge to be elite you can
Be like a Joshua filler and just run out from everywhere you one of the one of the other things that one pocket I know we’ve been on this rant for a while but one of the other things that one pocket really kind of opened my eyes to was not
Just paying attention to the ball you’re hitting and the Q ball like pay attention to every ball that you can try to predict in the in the shot you know what I mean like try to notice the con the different contacts that are going to happen in the whole shot and then you
Can start to like get a little bit more creative with your uh with your decisions um I actually wanted to say there’s a few people in the chat that have said that the the stream is really fuzzy I wanted to show you if you’re on your cell phone if you click on it
There’s a little gear in the bottom corner or no the top corner it’s over here if you click on that gear you can you can choose your setting for the clarity so uh that should help sharpen the image up a bit but uh EZ says what happened to
Dennis or Colo nothing happened to Dennis he’s just uh well actually something well something kind of happened yeah yeah he’s not he’s not allowed back in the States he overstate his Visa so he um probably got two or three years maybe four years left on
That wasn’t it a fiveyear band it was a 5year band I would say he’s probably been he hasn’t been to the US in three years I would imagine yeah so you’ll be seeing some Dennis I mean that was actually I mean I love Dennis but it was actually good for a
Lot of the top players because Dennis was absolutely in his prime win in everything all disciplines right and it really kind of opened to call for a lot of people calling a ref over because it’s all ball fouls oh it is all ball fouls maybe it’s cuq ball fouls only but
He’s asking because he’s shooting over a ball feder’s just clarifying the rule I guess feder tell him you’ll sign him a q ball if he calls it good really pull Rodney Morris is up 6 to four whoever asks in the chat look at the speed here look at the
Speed wow I mean that’s pretty good pretty good see if we can take a peak here Shaw’s only at five to four now so tight match there on the northwest corner of our and it looks like uh Wall’s running out hasham is it looks like it’s 5 to four is it 5
To four or is that 5 to five it was 5 to four maybe that that’s ahead there’s a delay on our stream because of uh because fed streaming it out to us I think we’re about 15 seconds behind 10 to 15 seconds so 5 to four is a score up there tight
One hey thank you Donald anemone thank you buddy good to see you man John MOA sweat this John Mo’s trailing Jimmy Rivera 6 to2 right now no kidding the guy that feder just sent to the one LW Side Federal Express Federal Express and Ron Cassano
Is beating Matt craw 8 to2 sorry he just knocked so he just knocked off Torsten and about to knock off Matt craw wow Kevin Clark and Donnie Mills are locked up at four a piece uh chat saying all ball fouls or at least one person in the chat
Is saying that I mean it doesn’t surprise me any confirmation Turning Stone classic regular rules all ball fouls look at this little uh nudge on the five ball to end up straight in it’s pretty sweet wasn’t it pretty sweet I’m sure that was not intentional Turning Stone is always all
Ball fouls gotcha thank thank you Nick Nick H Co on the stroke only is Will Totton says meaning if you’re stroking through the ball and you touch any other ball nearby that’s a interesting uh specific mildly gaffy rule yeah well so is racking for your opponent
Yeah oh and Don and eMoney coming in with the $20 Super Chat rock and roll9 Don thank you buddy if you move it before the shot you have the option to move it back or or is it like you have to move it back that’s an interesting
Rule yeah I mean I I my me personally Collins if if there’s not a referee on every single table watching every shot my preference is QQ ball foul only I mean it’s the only one that makes sense it’s the only way that makes sense yeah if not you just run into the hunter
Lombardo Scott Frost situation where you can just call a foul anytime you want right it’s kind of zinging that QQ ball yeah he’s really got the speed down doesn’t he yeah he can tell he’s got like the feel for how the cloth is going
To grab the Q ball on a draw stroke too you know like with how it bends or whatever when you’re cutting the ball with a draw stroke yeah and I’ll tell you what Collins I’m really excited to see um with his new Q sponsor white carbon triple 60 I’m I’m
Really excited to see um feder take his game to the next level because they’re they’re definitely working with him and and allowing him to customize different parts of the the the shaft different parts of theq he’s going to be developing his own signature line like and he’s very involved in that I mean
It’s it’s it’s so serious Collins that he even has a he just bought a because he wants to start trying different stuff with the tips to see if he can change this and change that so you know he’s he’s taking it to different levels and he wants to make
Sure that um if there’s anything that he can potentially do to give himself an advantage or change the way that he plays with the equipment to make himself more accurate he’s going to do it so I’m really excited about his new partnership with with the triple 60 and the white
Carbon shaft I think it’s going to be great to see and I I do think that you know he’s to a level right now that if he can improve Something by A half a percent or a quarter of a percent it could really change I mean there’s not
Much more he can do right um to get much better well I mean he could just but has he thought about just playing perfect has he thought about trying trying to just play Perfect yeah he needs to doesn’t he yeah but I think I think it’s pretty cool
Though I mean I I don’t know if we’ve seen any any players really um at least during my time pool that are that dedicated that I mean he’s he’s wanting to get that deep in it that he’s wanting to put his own tips on he’s wanting to
Develop the shaft more and the cues more yeah the last guy to do uh like involv stuff like that was uh the Pearl I’m just kidding take his equipment to the next level you know yeah see what happens Jason doesn’t like that joke the Earl The Pearl
Well I mean listen I I I tried to get when feder first came over here he actually played he played a guy local here in Louisville his name’s n ball Bob and he uh he wore the the head or the ear muffs like Earl did like it looked
Like he was about to go out and weed eat or or Mo’s yard with these go out to the on yeah I mean kind of kind of got broken into the Earl effect yeah but yeah putting weights on his arms and taping this up and that sort of
Stuff but I think most most players most Pros they play so good that they maybe not even notice certain things they just kind of notice that it feels good or whatever sure but they’re they’re not trying to get that deep like oh I get what you’re saying like specifically thinking about
It yeah I get what you’re saying kind of difficult to articulate but but yeah treating it almost like the taper yeah like a softness of the tip the layer of the tip where’s he cutting the tip how’s he shaping the tip what’s the feral made out of what’s the joint made out of
What’s the PIN what’s the weight where’s the balance point like he’s wanting to know all of those things and he’s and and the thing is he’s so accurate and and that’s the one thing about feder that’s why I think what triple 60 is doing is so smart he’s as close to a
Computer with a pool stick in his hand as you can get without being a computer right he can tell you the the human The Human Side of Things um and it’s it’s almost like he’s a computer almost like he’s the robot robot robot but it’s pretty cool though I mean if you think
About I know a lot of lot of his fans um you know enjoy watching him play but there’s just so much that goes into um the art of what he’s doing right now it’s not just you know setting up mighty exra the guys consistently and constant are not consistent L constantly thinking
About different ways to maybe make small incremental improvements a quarter of a percent a half a percent to his game so right that’s pure dedication and and honestly the maturity at age 23 to be to be thinking like that I mean for me I’ve always said this I don’t think it
Matters what feder does he’s going to be successful just because of his mindset and his perspective right he could be a businessman he could he could do whatever he wanted to do he just chose pull yeah so it’s kind of like uh you know there’s people in the chat saying
Oh it’s not the it’s not the arrow it’s the Archer you know it’s not the you get what I’m saying but yeah I mean I’m sure people said that for a long time with golf about the club before they decided oh oh my gosh this different length Club
Makes a difference here oh this different weight for the head of my club makes a difference here oh if my the head of my club is is uh Hollow it does a different thing with this kind of hard or whatever it’s like if you start to
Really pick it apart like that you might actually learn something new That Could That Could somewhat impact your game and I know it sounds like you’re comparing apples and oranges here because golf happens on such a larger scale but the reality is on the pool table even though
It’s only a 4 and 1/2 by 9 ft surface the difference between like making things happen accurately like exactly how you need them to in order to convert the game to a win is very similar to how accurate you need to be with a golf stroke to
Have the ball land you know in one place versus 10 ft different you know what I mean in in different spins and everything I mean and actually I think I believe that that one of the um one of the engineers or the guy that’s helping triple 60 with their with their carbon
Shafts actually comes from the golf side oh that’s interesting yeah I mean it’s it’s just carbon fiber right like it’s the same thing right technology took the the sport of golf to a different level and it’s changed pool too honestly Collins if you look at it yeah I mean it
It really has 100% it’s a totally different game than it was you know 20 even 15 years ago so Fedor I like that power structure Fedor meanwhile Vincent trying to cut the lead to three games here two balls away nice speed do you play with carbon fiber you
Know I’ve played with uh up until I sold my queue so I sold my queue as more of a statement to myself that I’m taking a break from the game uh before I sold my que I was playing with an 118 Revo cuz I always played with the Z shaft right the the
1175 Z2 for like six years or whatever it was um so I like the narrow shaft I like the feel of the narrow shaft played with carbon fiber but ever since I sold my Q I had one leftover shaft like my backup shaft in my case and I still have
It and it’s a Unilock and it’s an old Z shaft right it’s a z it’s actually a Z3 but uh I’ve been playing with it like throwing on Whoever has a Unilock q that I can hit a ball with you know I’ll throw it on there and and just hit some
Balls with it and I play great and it feels really good and I’m like hold on a second is there something to this so now I’m in the now I’m in the boat with everyone else that has been going back and forth with The Fad you know like man
Carbon fiber was great when I was playing with it but now that I like the fuel of the wood shaft do I want to go back when I get a queue again I don’t I don’t know it’s maybe I I’ll just have one of each you know you’re going to be
Playing pull in a week no it’s been it’s been a month already it’s been a month I’m pretty committed I mean I’ll I’ll still hit balls I’ll still like you know if I come in here and I do some work with Graphics or something and and
Uh I’ve been working on it for a while and I’m going to take off then I’ll go play you know three or four racks with somebody right but uh it keeps me from staying on the table for like 6 hours you know updat score there for us colins six
To three is our score thank you Vincent the break I got to change this song kills me there we go and I I I’ve seen most most players here trying to cut the one in the side so what I mean by that is he’s trying to
Cut the one ball and make it in the side pocket on the right hand side of where he’s standing here’s the interesting thing about this break is they are breaking from the box but the one’s on the spot so if the rack is racked a specific way they can still wire up the
Corner ball or the wing ball to the corner pocket um yeah but I think I think the point is is the wing Ball’s not going to go if it’s rack for each other right like they’re they’re never giving each other a rack where they’re going to make the wing ball they
Shouldn’t Shaw’s battling five to five do we have an update on the uh on the Kevin Clark match guys that is not going to like this one little short with the Q ball and that was because he hit it a little Fuller than he wouldn’t than he wanted
To I’m going to go get you a update looks like Kevin Clark’s up 5 to four let me update it and make sure that it’s right 55 also is what the chat’s saying Rodney Morris is on the hill he’s up 8 to five who’s Rodney playing again Jonathan Smith
Okay Shaw and W are tied up at five obviously we’re six to3 here Eric is up seven to five on Casper s324 asks are both ends of the carbon are both ends carbon fiber or just the top half of the que they aren’t one piece like some snooker cues no so
Pool qes come in in two pieces gener speaking and uh most players will agree that the rear end of the queue has more to do with feel and the front end of the queue has more to do with performance so the shaft is what we’re talking about which is the front end of
The queue when we talk about carbon fiber versus wood that’s what we’re talking about now there are players out there that would say no the butam IQ performs differently I think that’s a little bit woo woo that’s my opinion it’s all up here feel feel is important feel is just
As important as as you know how the queue feels if if it feels good to play with the que it’s going to have uh you know those kind of subconscious effects that are going to allow you to perform at your highest level and not be distracted by the way the que
Feels r over 64 over Mora right now coming from the chat all right back to the full jump Q here he kick that ball in the hole no it didn’t go no I think he got extremely lucky there it hit the it hit the point
Did you see that it hit the point and and went underneath the six it was going to come right back out to the middle of the table we’ll see if Vince leaves this Q at the at the chair there to study this one you see him Pat his his uh thigh
There when the when feder got the little roll gave him the good Shot Pat I mean feder has feder has been on the fortunate side of the rle so far in this match you can’t deny that yeah who makes the best best Q in the world somebody’s asking
You I don’t know I mean that’s just preference I don’t know how to answer that question I don’t even know what that question means what do you mean by best you know best for what best looking queue best feeling queue lowest deflection best for backhand English what what are we
Talking about so many different things can Define best that nineball ends up right in front of the corner there yeah I think feder’s going to be jumping here again this be another highlight shot here if he’s able to I think he’s going to shoot too he’s going after it he’s looking at
The hit spot yeah I mean it’s the Carri is a reward right lowest deflection Q is that what you mean I think that’s what he’s saying what’s the best deflection que is the question I I think uh in my opinion the lowest deflection you’re going to find is a Revo shaft I mean
It’s like almost zero now there’s a possibility that that might change soon cuz I’ve seen a couple of prototype shafts out there that I’ve hit balls with that were very impressive to me that were like uh carbon core wood shafts uh but Synergy is actually closer to like a
314 shaft like a predator 314 so it’s a little bit more deflection than a than a Revo revo’s like yeah the white carbon deflects like nothing like nothing really I’ve never hit a ball with a right a white carbon shaft yeah I have a
I have a I actually play with a Revo and my Q deflects a lot more than feds really mhm i’ would be thrilled to to try that out my aiming system is completely like the less deflection the better for my aiming system yeah so they’re asking about
Feder’s tip he uses a kamui um on his playing playing q and then he used talum for his break and jump need to find a good queue but I’m a complete amateur if you’re a complete amateur just pick up a queue that feels good in your hand man and then once you
Start dialing in your uh your mechanic and stuff like your stroke mechanics and you feel good about how you know you feel good over the ball and you feel like you’re pretty accurate with a center ball hit as far as cutting balls in then at that point it’s it’s after
Then it’s good to invest in a nicer you know higher performance queue but if you’re a complete amateur it might be best to just whatever feels good at a reasonable price and focus on Center ball oh man tough Miss there from Vincent that one’s going to
Hurt does look like he’s going to have to run out here do think the six balls available in both Corners up top I don’t think it matters cuz if it doesn’t go in the right hand corner I think you’re playing the combo every time yep yeah but if it but if it goes
He probably won’t play the combo I think feder gets out here 90 97.5% of the time the commentators curse maybe two and a half out of 100 he doesn’t get there yeah well this would be the shot that he would miss yeah if there is going to be one or potentially the five
To the six if he were to goof up and get straight here I think he’s just going to probably play short side of this oh he went ahead and went all the way out oh baby yeah but he might get straight that’s what I’m saying that was that was the two and a
Half% that you said stop it and I think it may have happened serious he’s oh he he he went and looked he he may be able to use the rail here and he’s got a bigger pocket too and they’re for a little bit forgiving too he might be
Able to cheat this and and spin the ball forward yeah yep he’s queing though he’s spinning with outside watch for the whip get past the eight baby get past the eight one time yeah he’s there is the caramon from here no you can’t see that side of the six anyway no
He’s just going to cut this bad boy in but if the eight wasn’t there look at the angle it looks like 30° baby let’s go yeah he he got his as funny as he could have gotten on the five ball nice recovery though I was going to say it’s it’s a
Nice recovery after this shot yeah and I liked what he did there Collins a lot a lot of people try to hold that ball a lot of people just try to roll that six and hold it and you’re not going to be as accurate you can
Catch a skid more often doing that so with him just go ahead and letting his stroke out there getting through the ball using two two rails I think you’re going to be more accurate there was definitely a pro shot there really maneuvering through this rack I I
Definitely don’t think it was 97 and a half or no no no from that spot it was from the spot where I made the prediction it’s 972 because even in those spots where he gets a little funky he still often converts and then all the times that he doesn’t get funky it it
Looks like it looks like everything was a hanger you know what I mean yeah seven to three is the score after 10 racks we are going to nine here big shout out to uh big shout out to Upstate a stream and and uh digital pool for uh you know
Giving feder permission to do these streams and giving us the permission to to hang out with you guys it’s been really fun so far I’m hoping we get at least one more after this maybe tomorrow sometime 1,400 people watching guys uh 1400 don’t forget to click that like button
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Fun over there it’s called post up on YouTube uh also cover any any uh large Regional events that happen in this pool room at Hard Times Billiards it’s the room owned by Oscar Dominguez here in Sacramento California uh so anytime there’s a large Regional event where Pros show up I’m streaming all those
Events out here and then I occasionally travel to cover uh larger events abroad but not abroad like outside of the country but out in other states and actually the the main reason why I don’t do more of them is just cuz I don’t really get reached out to by event
Organizers so if you know anyone that’s looking for a streamer and you like the vibe check my name in the Hat see what happens there you go go out there and like Callin stuff tough position on the deuce here see if he can get the window I don’t think he did
I was kind of surprised to see that he used inside English there Collins he could have just used high and just gone straight up yeah like play speed to end up on the short rail yeah he tried to get underneath the seven it looked like he was potentially trying to go in between
The seven n or something but are they going to do a CLE Dixon Memorial this year out there in uh you talking at Family Billiards in San Francisco I don’t know will I don’t know how many years has it been since they’ve done one of those I think it’s been a
While gets a rail with the seven Ball but there looks like there’s a window to the two ball yeah things are continuing to not go Vincent’s way I hey Kev Massie thank you buddy glad you like it appreciate all the positive comments guys thanks for tuning in with
Us yeah Nick Nick H uh asks when are Oscar and Carl Carl supposed to play the last thing that I’ve heard from Oscar the last cuz I asked him about it about two and a half weeks ago the last thing I heard was the match is still on we
Don’t have a date I’m going to bust his ass who is it uh boy and Oscar Dominguez man that’s tough last time Oscar tried that he didn’t like it yeah but Carl hasn’t been playing so Carl Carl says all I have to do is practice for a month and I’ll and
I’ll murder you and uh and uh Oscar said Tails well I tell you what there’s the truth like Oscar is one of my favorite people in pool I love Oscar um but I just think it’s a different class I I mean I understand that he hasn’t
Been playing and Oscar you know has been playing a little here and there and Oscar’s known as a better Gambler and all this I just think that Carl boys is just in a different class and I think he’s going to win that match and I don’t really particularly like Carl boys and I
Love Oscar so that’s just my take I would I would take my boy in that match and I mean here’s why did you watch the last two tournaments that he played in oh I know I know Oscar’s playing good I’m not saying that I’m just I mean his
Q ball is absolutely sick now the break which is everything he’s working on his break let me put it like that he’s working on his yeah you know I think it’s I think it’s more about racking but honestly to tell you the truth like I I I don’t think the
Break even matters in the match like I I just think that after the break it’s just a different class that’s what I think and I love Oscar okay I’ll give him a big hug when I see him at Derby and he knows more than anybody I bet on
Him if I like him and I bet against him if I don’t trust me I’m going to I’m going to send him a clip I’m going to send him a clip of all this that’s fine send it you you’ll get some extra action if the match ever happens on the side
But Collins listen here’s the bad thing if he hears me say it he may not play it so don’t send it to him see it stop stop stop it oh that’s funny no I I got scared I should have bet a lot more um against Chris when he played
Chris but I got scared because a lot of people that are kind of in my corner that that you know we we talk about the matches and different stuff and we’re usually on the right side whenever we all agree they like the Chris and I’m like screwed I still Oscar messaged me I
Still bet on him Oscar tried to dog it and he still won yeah I mean what he win 30 to 13 the third set against Chris yeah yeah Oscar’s fully capable of playing a really good set and beating Carl I’m not saying that it’s not like it’s a
Unwinable match for I just think it’s just a you know think the edges is on one side yeah I get you I think it’s 640 that’s what I think yeah we’ll see here feder on the hill looking to uh be the first one in the final four of the winners d dude I
Love so much that last night was so fun for so many people that Kevin Clark match that we’re still getting random comments coming in at the end of this set that says is Kevin Clark alive in this tournament I I love it dude dude I’ve got to go watch it like everybody
That’s all I’ve heard about is Kevin Clark even my dad my dad was watching he’s like who is this guy he’s like trying to call me this this Kevin Clark must be the real deal yeah it was fun it was a blast dude look at this little smoocher nice shot from feder
There Clark is up 7 to six against Donnie Mills right now looks like Shaw’s running away on W lead he’s up 8 to five they were tied at five and what about that match between uh what about Mora’s match with Jimmy Eric and Casper is 8 to7
Now Casper in the lead uh no Eric Eric in the lead okay Mor is trailing five to six on Jimmy Rivera okay that match has slowed down a bit Yeah and looks like Ron kazano just beat Matt crawl nine to three well feder played a real nice safe
Right here uh it’s real tough to not sell out after this kick even if you make a good hit yeah and it’s pretty tough to get a shot after it too if you kick it and make it yeah exactly because the three’s laying there so it’s almost like one of these things
You’re going to if you kick and make it you’re going to be playing a safe back yeah there’s a possibility that you clip the three and kind of like end up straight in I think but it’s kind of tough to tell from this angle what’s he looking at
Here what’s he doing with his finger there I don’t know what he’s is he I don’t know is he looking at Z kicking into the one yeah maybe so maybe he’s looking at kick it towards the three and like tying it up with the three ball this is
Ambitious he isn’t going to like it yeah ball in hand and we’ll see if feder gor can clean him up here on the hill yeah one rack away don’t think the six goes in the side there no but you know honestly if it doesn’t he could he could give himself
An angle right now to just run into the six the three is readily available right over the corner so if if the six doesn’t play you’ll see him go go into the six right now with ball in hand yeah yeah with insurance the three ball obviously sitting right over the corner is real
Nice to have and that’s what he’s going to do it looks like Nick H in the chat asks Jason any matches lined up with Carl at Derby City Classic I haven’t seen any yet but You Know Carl he’s going to come with a pocket full of cash and ready to play I
Think that feder did just enough he almost missed that almost missed the six ball I think he did just enough and that was just based on the T of Vincent on his leg acknowledging the good shot but no Carl we’re going to get we’re going to get Carl bomb in some
Action you can guarantee it he said minimum 100 a set isn’t that what he said oh yeah yeah he likes to play bar table nine ball and he likes to play the Champions and get big spots he likes to you know the five seven last four in the breaks
And bet you a house bet you a house and he usually loses so that’s the good thing he comes and donates it’s fun it’s fun evil evil Mor D I am not related to Carl yeah looks like the six definitely goes and this is going to this is going to spell the
End of this set make sure uh don’t go anywhere guys we’re going to talk to talk to feder after the match we do at the end of every match see how he’s feeling we got any any shots we want to ask him about uh were there any situations cuz I
Know he’s been getting the better part of the roles but wasn’t there any wasn’t there anything I don’t think there was anything really goofy significant that happened seemed pretty routine Tom Tom B likes your music nice no I am not Carl’s backer but if he’s playing Oscar I may
Be oh about the foul that’s right the bad hit oh yeah the bad hit on that’s what we got to ask him about see if he knows he hit it bad I’m sorry he probably doesn’t know probably just what what no I’m sure I hit the one or the three or whatever it
Was well there you go that’ll do the trick punch his ticket into the final four actually we’ll let it roll oh he’s calling in right now let’s merge him into the call didn’t waste any time did he come on into the call Buddy one second turn off the
Music turn off the porn or the uh corn music can’t say that word on YouTube uh the corn music yeah there we go we’ll turn that off and then we’ll come back here and get your face right up here for all these beautiful people that’s not your face hey hey
Feder will you do us a favor real quick can you can you go to the next table and tap while out and finish off Shaw for us real quick he’s up 8 to six I think I think it’s 8 to seven no really it’s 8 to it’s 8 to six V was
Playing good I mean it was five to five yeah and eight to five right Sha won three in a row yeah and Morrow was down Morrow was down six to2 or 5 to2 or something like that against the guy that you just beat before in the last
Match oh Jimmy Jimmy R yeah yeah he’s it’s unfortunate the stream died because I I made some some sick combos in that and some sick shots yeah all right feder before we get into the match that you just played I have a serious question for you here we go Carl Carl boy with
One month practice against Oscar Dominguez who are you betting on you’re not going to hurt Oscar’s feelings you know how he is what what discipline they playing well they would play one of each they’d play a g a set of each I think they’d go rotation I think they’ll do
Rotation eight ball and one one hole I think they were I can’t remember what the agreement was it was either a set of each of those or huh what what is what is rotation eight ball what is it no I said a set of each rotation eight ball
And one pocket I don’t know if it was n ball or 10 ball I think that’s what they agreed on yeah I didn’t know that I thought they were just playing N I don’t think they were playing straight up rotation no no I I don’t think Carl will play one
Pocket he’s clueless okay so then it might have been 10 Ball nine ball eight ball I can’t remember we’ll get the details for the next stream eight ball Carl is stealing but nine ball and 10 ball it’s prob gambling all right yeah he just wanted to educate me that’s all feder
No has to be has to be a favorite yeah all right well hey uh looks like you got the speed really dialed in buddy looks like you’re feeling good I don’t know he was playing a little bit slower than you know an average player
So it was getting in my head and I was a little bit pissy about it but I played okay okay do what about when the ref got called over for that that close hit what do you think about the call there no no it’s fine I just I just Mike zland
Announced that it’s only qball foul during the players meeting so I was thinking what’s what’s the reason for the ref to be here about minutes to grab something quick you about 10 minutes left for the concession yeah so uh they told me that it’s all ball foul and you
Know if I touch the ball before I shoot then I and I can respot it I mean it’s weird rules whatever uh yeah the chat was saying it’s kind of a gaffy rule that it’s actually Q ball fouls only but when you’re stroking through the Q ball
If you touch anything on the stroke it’s a foul just another old gold Ru yeah yeah uh but I was actually talking about the close hit between the uh the one and nine I think it was it’s really close I don’t know it might have it was bad it
Was bad hit yeah we watched it back but you got it and you got the game well we called a ref yeah I was more worried about the G ball pass though I I had no clue where what I hit first one or the nine but I was trying to make the nine
Off the off of the one oh oh yeah I didn’t think the one ball was even possible to make from there but then I mean the refs said good and my opponent said good I mean what am I supposed to do so foul right yeah no watching it
Live I thought it was good Collins thought it was bad and then we played it back and it was clearly bad yeah but yeah it was tough to see live for sure yeah it was it was tough so final four of the winners Rodney Morris is in you’re going to play
The winner of Casper and Eric yeah Casper Casper is playing good we haven’t seen him in a while I mean he has been playing in the United States before I think he didn’t come to any tournaments for the last probably two years he’s around s speed I think oh no
Kidding I thought he was blowing no no no that’s pretty solid I mean to say the least I had no idea I’d never heard the name before so he always played juniors European Juniors I think they’re trying to get me out of the table so I got to I got to go
Pack okay right on all right well good match let us know if we’re going to get another stream or not but uh yeah stay let me see let me see what time I play tomorrow so don’t make sure make sure you’re subscribed if you’re watching uh if you
Don’t want to miss any further streams Sunday 11 a Sunday 11 a.m. and Casper just lost to Eric from Canada the guy who beat b Al Eric uh hon I think is his last name yeah okay all right so I play him at 11:00 a tomorrow sounds good well let us know if
You can stream and we’ll be on yeah it will probably be on the mainstream table if upate out will allow me to stream it then it will be there if not then go to Upstate all on Facebook or digital pool uh on YouTube I believe that’s where they’re streaming and that’s
Correct yeah that’s that’s where you can watch the match then all right right on well we’re going to call it there we’ll see you guys later thanks for the stream guys y see you later guys byebye see you

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Casper plays around 740-750ish
Railyard!
Please tell me Fedor lost?
20:21 Howie Meeker and his laser light pen!
The ghost is the perfect nickname. It’s my favorite.
That shot was not a bad hit. Cue ball takes a path into the rail that’s not possible if it hit the 9 first. It took the tangent line of hitting the 1 first then caroming off the 9.
Fedor Gorst isn't even his birth name go back to Russia where you belong I can't wait to meet you in person so I will tell you to your face!
Looks like TV from the 1050's no offense.
White carbon is 💩 after mike sold it. And they are using prototype shafts that are released yet.
1080p
Yes, Kevin Clark match was very fun to watch and to listen to the commentary
Omg.. I’m watching Fedor’s stream.. not for all the commentary that has NOTHING to do with the match.. seriously shhhh
I’m watching it on rewatch hours later and the commentary is distracting . Trying to appreciate HIS stream
You pronounce it Mr. Eric H.
Congratulations on another solid win Fedor
Just get better computers nerds 🤣
Looks great here in Texas
1:00:18 like seriously hahaha ref with hand and arm on table while one of the top player in the world is stroking on a shot…this is a joke right get the f away from the table dude.
Collins, classy as ever; shouting out everyone else's stream…
thanks for bringing us this match!
31:05
Bad hit. Just stare at the 9 only during the hit and it obviously moves first. Another way to look at it is if you remove the 9 ball entirely…try to imagine back cutting the 1 ball at that speed…off a masse…at that angle.
Seems close to impossible.
Saludos a todos esos fan del billar 🎱🫂💪🤗