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Oh [Applause] A Oh [Applause] Oh [Applause] N A Oh [Applause] The following program is a collection of stoes talking about happenings in the sports world it is meant to be comedic informative the opinions expressed on this show uh Robert and I after you know a series of discussions have uh mutually agreed to um part ways and uh for me

This is a day of um you know gratitude and celebration um start with Robert and his family um it’s great so much thanks for the opportunity to to be the head coach here for 24 years uh it’s an amazing opportunity um received tremendous support uh we had a vision of

You know building a winner building a championship football team here and uh that’s exceed exceeded my my wildest dreams um and expectations uh the amount of success that we were able to achieve together um you know through a lot of hard work and you know contributions of so many people

Um so I’m very proud of that and and um I always have those those great memories I’ll carry with those those with me the rest of my life um and of course after uh you know Robert um thanks to assistant coaches um you know I’ve had

So many great coaches uh here uh they’ve made my job uh so much easier uh it’s a long list but you know the amount of work preparation um and diligence that they do um every one of them um and I say this about the players and the

Coaches regardless of how long they were here how many years they were here how many years they coach or what the position was um you know it was a great team effort and and everybody you know put everything they had into it and um and that’s why we’re were successful so

Um from the coaches the sports staff um an amazing staff here that that’s supported me in every way um all the scouting and all the the football support people from equipment training uh security video operations um uh and so forth right down line dining room I mean it’s all it’s all first

Class it’s all you know extremely extremely good and um you know special thanks to bears and Nancy they’ve been here since day one and um you know made my life a lot easier or I’ve made theirs a lot harder however you want to look at

It um but that’s uh you know a big shout out to them and of course a great great deal of thanks and appreciation to the players uh players win games in the NFL and I’ve been very very fortunate to coach some of the the greatest players

Uh that have ever played some of the greatest players that have ever played for the Patriots some them are already in the Hall of Fame many more are going um but again regardless of how long any of the players were weren’t here what their role was or or how many games they

Played or even if they didn’t win championships um you know I respect the way the players come to work here on a daily basis uh all of them and I’ve coached you know well over a thousand but their their ability to work prepare uh train you know in a wait room

Um you know train their bodies uh meet rehearse over and over again you know what we need to do things right to be successful to win uh it’s just I have so much respect for all the players um and certainly we’ve had you know many that

Have been here for a long long time and you know had great contributions and and know too many to name at this time but um you know great thanks to the players and um to the media for you guys I don’t know that anybody’s gotten more coverage

Than uh than I have or we have in the past 24 years um you know meet with you guys a lot respect what you do um you know you’re a voice to the fans and uh even though we don’t always see eye to eye all the time most of the time but

Not all the time uh I do respect what you do and and uh and finally to the fans um you know the fans here are amazing um you know there so many memories of the fans the the send offs um the parades um The Sundays you know whatever

The whatever the situations are um the letters of support uh the you know Cena fans you know away from here you know at a gas station or a grocery store you know wherever you pump into them uh Patriot fans here and not just in New England but uh they extend nationally

And even internationally uh as I’ve traveled uh it’s amazing how far the the arm reaches we saw that this year in in Germany so uh so appreciative of the fans for all the support they’ve given me uh my family uh and this football team and uh it’s with um just so many

Fond memories and and uh thoughts that I you know think about the Patriots and and always be a patriate I look forward to coming back here uh but at this time uh you know we’re g to we’re going to move on and um I look forward I’m

Excited for the future um but always very very appreciative of the opportunity here the support here uh and you know the what Robert what you’ve done for me thank you that was Bill bich obviously addressing the mutual parting of ways with this man Robert Craft owner of the

Patriots um good afternoon everyone and as Bill mentioned yesterday uh we met and mutually agreed to part ways amicably and like a good marriage a successful head coach owner relationship requires a lot of hard work and I’m very proud that our partnership lasted for 24 years I don’t think in the

NFL there’s been any other partnership that last longer and has been as productive as ours yeah I trusted my instincts to bring Bill back to New England in 2000 after immediately regretting not hiring him after working with him together in 1996 when I did hire him I was still making the

Transition from the fan who bought season tickets in 71 sitting sitting on the metal benches in the old Foxboro Stadium with my boys to try to become an experienced owner bill has taught me a lot over those years and we had high expectations for what we could achieve

Together I think we were the only ones who had those expectations and I think it’s I think it’s safe to say we exceeded them we did thanks to you damn right um it’s hard to put into words really when I think back to sitting on those metal benches and that we’d have an

Opportunity to go to 10 Super Bowls together and bring six Lombardi trophies home to Massachusetts right at heart I will always be a Sentimental sports fan so this is a very emotional day for me some of my happiest and most memorable moments were celebrated with my family during Bill’s tenure here I recognize

That it also is a very emotional day for many of our fans and most of our fans as it represents the end of an era one that hopefully will always be celebrated in this region The Man Standing to my left brought the leadership and coaching skills that were needed to make this

Type of unprecedented success that we have had possible coach belich will forever be celebrated as a legendary Sports icon here in New England and I believe go in as a Pro Football Hall of Famer on the first ballot why because he is the Great greatest coach of all

Times uh yeah which makes this decision in to part ways so hard but this is a move that we mutually agreed that is needed at this time what Bill accomplished with us in my opinion will never be replicated and the fact that it was done in the salary cap and free agency era

Makes it even even more extraordinary I thank coach Bill for his hard work and dedication it’ll be difficult to see him in a cut off hoodie on the sideline but I will always continue wish him continued success except when he’s playing our beloved Patriots so I thank you all for coming

Here today and being part part of this uh celebration thank you couple handshakes couple hugs he’s got a coal so I’m not going to kiss him okay I know Bill b c sick do all right after for you and Ry that’s that all right bhead guy in the corner

Good work mhm I’ll take my water yeah of course got a lot of Life to Live y 15 more games win between right to the film room between me and historic record and thank you guys will uh uh media that wants to stay in here for the next you

Know during their broadcast window here are allowed to stay anyone that wants to go back to the media work room and start working we’ll we’ll lead an escort back oh thanks and we’ll likely be back in here close to 2 o’ uh we’ll get details

To you in the workroom what if it’s just ch they have immediate children just want hang out anyways uh welcome ladies and gentlemen to big news Thursday here on this glorious Pat McAfee show January 11th is going to be a day obviously because of what we just witnessed there

With Bill bich leading off the entire press conference saying I haven’t seen this many cameras since we signed TBO then he would go in to talk about how they mutually agreed to part ways and then obviously give thanks to everybody including the media which was a little

Bit quicker and obviously one that is very hilarious because of the relationship that we have seen between he and them over the years has not necessarily been described as a good one he’d go in there dressed like a hilarious homeless man he would kind of just grunt at them

And then that’s when we got to we’re on to Cincinnati we’re on to Cincinnati we’re doing this we’re doing that no other coach could get away with it you know why because everything that man did seemingly worked for the better part of two decades he would cut a player that

None of us really understood why you would get rid of them why would you not want this person on your team he get rid of them and then all of a sudden they win another Super Bowl and it’s like well Bill bich is doing it we trust it

Yep the greatest coach of all time the greatest GM of all time and I a lot of people obviously whenever I said that on college game day and he and Tom Brady obviously put together the magical Dynasty that will never be duplicated UND duplicable is the dynasty

That they built up in New England together I think we all realize that but whenever you start thinking of him as the general manager he’s in his kitchen there that’s great he had groceries in front of him he was the one that was picking these players that would go on

To win six Super Bowls to be the most successful team in the history of the toughest League the biggest league on Earth and all the while coaching the players up developing the plan scouting cont negotiating and winning this man has committed his entire being to football and obviously we’re pumped it’s

Going to continue he’s not a bad little sandshot there good hands guy’s got pretty good hands we know he’s got a barrel chest we saw that on a ring Cam he’s got a hysterical uh costume in wardrobe he loves his boat and forever we’ll call him the greatest coach of all

Time his time ends in New England but it was a beautiful one hell yeah congratulations to New England Patriots having the greatest uh dynasty of all time com man we got about 55 seconds until we transition over to ESPN from Sports Center which we’re very thankful

For them passing the Baton to us over there this is a moment in one word how you could describe it uh emotional watching you watch that and then watching all of us watch it we kind of got captivated by it because you think you’re kind of in a movie you think

There’s no way this is reality you think to yourself This is a marriage that’ll be able to last forever and when Bill retires he’ll retire a New England Patriot uhuh Robert Craft actually said good luck to them I wish you success except for whenever you’re playing against us now we’ll be transitioning

Over to ESPN with a baton handoff from the fine folks at Sports Center I’m sure they’re pumped about that we can’t wait ladies and gentlemen there’s two different counts happening we’re either at 10 or we’re at 1 thank you Sports Center it is an absolute honor to be here on this big

News Thursday January 11th 2024 bill bich and the New England Patriots are parting waves after the greatest Dynasty in the history of professional sports I appreciated the fact that they both had their prepared statements they took no questions and then they just waled right off Robert

Craft will be talking at 2m eastern time I think he’ll be having his own press conference so we’ll probably get some more answers about how the conversation went how long he had been thinking about this potential divorce but Bill bich led the whole thing off saying he hadn’t

Seen that many cameras since they signed Tim TBO and then he said we mutually agreed to part ways amicably which was a statement that was echoed by Robert Craft which never happens in anything especially when Egos and pride in millions millions of dollars are on the

Line so shout out to the New England Patriots seemingly doing it the right way on the way out and while it was happening the greatest of all time now obviously I’m not alone here there’s a man who coached football for 36 years who’s going to have some of the ins and

Outs of the conversations that had to take place not only in New England but also in Seattle and down in Alabama a lot of Legends seemingly on the move and in a different chapter uh Chuck Pago is here we appreciate one half of the hammer Cowboys T Diggs is here and the toic

Table is here as well at Tai Schmidt obviously Green Bay Packer owner and a man who is incredibly pumped that Jordan love is seemingly the third one in a line of great quarterbacks for the Green Bay Packers yeah without a doubt I mean you know being good today and and in

Great spirits and I just feel for con man and the exact point that you just made the other member of the toxic table is a DieHard New England Patriot fan a man that would actually take a bullet for Bill bich whenever the Tom Brady Bill bich thing split obviously he loved

Tom Brady and he appreciated him but Bill bich here is the guy that is the brain and The Mastermind behind all this success had to be that way if you’re an New England Patriot fan you obviously softened on Tom as the years went on and appreciated him but you were willing to

Ride and actually die for bill bich now it is official it the bill bich era is over how are you feeling and did you feel like you were watching a movie there as those two gentlemen spoke yeah it was it was like a movie I I honestly

Can’t really tell you how I’m feeling cuz the day woke up I mean I started with checking my phone as most people do and seeing the news right away it was not mind-blowing because that would be naive to say that I didn’t see this coming or at least the possibility of it

Coming but it it is just something you can’t really wrap your head around completely yet um my entire life has has been Bill bich football that’s all I’ve ever known it’s really the thing that I could hang my hat on no matter what throughout my entire life too was you

Know whatever’s going on with the other teams in Boston who cares we have Bill belich at the helm in New England so seeing it is crazy like thinking about the memories is crazy like thinking about me and my father and my brother you know watching New England Patriot

Football for my entire life with Bill belich on the sidelines so it’s incredibly emotional to be completely honest I’m trying not to cry or anything it really is like one of those things where you don’t believe that something is ending like that like you you really don’t and I personally wanted Bill to

Stay like that was the feeling that I’ve had and Rabel earlier in the week that’s one thing but that’s for another day and it’s just one of those things where like when you really look back at the entire thing of the dynasty it’s just so much gratitude like I’m so grateful that I

Was able to be a patriot fan in the era of Tom Brady and bill belich I feel bad for the future Patriot fans that didn’t get to experience that and so for me personally it’s just super appreciative uh it’s it’s really is a bummer because

You are we are going to see him in a different you know with a different team and that’s something that with Brady was one thing because Brady kind of came out of nowhere you know like at the end of the season with Brady when we lost to

Tennessee pick six at home his contract was kind of up in the air you weren’t sure with Bill it was one of those things where it’s like you see the end you know you know like you could you could prepare for it as best as you could but you could never really get

Yourself to this moment here where it’s actually happening and there’s a press conference and everything’s going on and so so it really is tough I started out pissed you know and then it worked its way into you know hope of the future hey let’s be pumped about what could be next

And now it’s just sadness it’s it’s just complete sadness and you know it it is what it is this is what happens I think Bill bich would also Echo like hey if you go 4 and 13 yeah stuff stuff has to change you know whether that is him or

The players or you know the front office or whatever it is but things have to change when you go four and 13 and that’s something why the Patriots were so successful like there are so many different players you mentioned it that he would bring in as a GM or that he

Would draft and maybe they were played unbelievable and they would still you know move on and there’s a list of those guys that you can mention and there’s a list of guys who came in on a onee twoyear deal that bill knew hey you bring this guy in you’re probably

Winning the Super Bowl R Ras Browner same exact thing I mean Chandler Jones had one of the better Super Bowls against the Seattle Seahawks and he got shipped out of town because Bill knew like hey this guy is so good there’s a massive chance we’re not going to be

Able to pay him and resign him and like those decisions I think get looked at in the moment as like what the hell is this guy doing but then when you go back and look at him it’s like this guy is so smart he he sees two three years ahead

Of what everybody else does so not having that anymore is crazy having the thought that we’re not just hiring a head coach we’re hiring a GM like the Twilight Zone that I’m in now it is more crazy to think about than anything there’s never been a point in my life

Where there hasn’t been a you know leader in the clubhouse if you will or a guy that you know that is going to be doing everything he possibly can for the team as a whole like right now not having a head coach or a general manager

It’s not scary I mean this is football it’s a sport but as a fan it is it’s shocking especially as a New England Patriot fan I mean he just went through it 10 Super Bowl appearances six Super Bowl wins like the things like that don’t just

Happen and you can go down the line of those coaches on that alltime list that he’s passed none of them can hold their Jock when it comes to success in championships when it comes to Bill bich and you know Chuck mentioned it in the free agency in the salary cap era like

That is unheard of it’s it’s never going to happen again the Chiefs right now like it’s incredible what they’re doing and everything in ‘ve gone to four possibly five straight AFC championships but at the same time it’s like a lot of the players that they loved and wanted

They weren’t able to hold on to and you know you see guys leave all the time and guys kind of plug in place and nothing be affected too much but I don’t think anybody can point to any other team than the New England Patriots when it comes

To that aspect because there has been so many Hall of Fame players come and play for Bill and then leave and talk about you know how great of a coach in person bill bich is and I think that’s like the biggest thing for me right now is just

Like thinking about how incredible it was what he did for the New England Patriots and then seeing him get emotional talking about talk about the fans yeah so that’s what I was like kind of that’s what I was noticing here because like you talking about him obviously you’re getting emotional and

The only time that bill really got emotional there was when he was talking about the fans and then you saw him start reliving moments where he was on a trip or a visit somewhere and somebody comes up with a Patriots uh merch on or whatever and he said and my travels in

There and he got a little choked up that’s beautiful you guys built a beautiful thing up there and it was you guys against the world I know everybody else says that but like the Patriots vers the world the amount of you know Gates that took place that bunker mental

Uh mentality that entire area and that entire team were in abundance I mean it was loud up there yeah him being get emotional is what got me for sure but like you think about the 2004 to 2014 you know era like all those great players that weren’t able to win a Super

Bowl like him talking about them that that is so cool it’s just one of those things where like I I look forward to like talking about how great he was you know down the road because it is something I’m just so lucky to have experienced the entire thing we zoomed

Out to see Bill bich has literally been staring at me since the first day of this particular stuio and Thunderdome I do wonder how long you keep because you got the blood one still up here yeah yeah bledo obviously massive piece of the entire story oh yeah then you got

Bill bich there another piece the story and I know we’re in the middle of a celebration both of them told us that M Bill belich said this is a celebration shakes hands little hug Robert craf goes thank you all for coming to his celebration shakes hands they do a hug

Then they walk off or whatever the celebration will come whenever Bill bich che’s done yeah yeah just like the Tom Brady celebration came whenever he was done at the Buccaneers this was all a formality had to happen here I wonder how that conversation went and you you know this

Follows coach Carol seemingly getting kind of told that he’s no longer the head coach at Seattle if you had to guess what the bill bich Robert Craft conversation went like because I assume you’ve had to be in a couple of these before in your years of coaching how

Does that normally go so can you walk us through what something like that would potentially go like and who do you think was potentially in charge in this particular convo obviously craft I guess would be the answer there you know honestly after 20 for a year

Run I can imagine maybe after a first contract like I’ve been in a a a combo with with an owner after you know a first contract expires and you’re trying to get a second contract and it’s like okay where are we going and how are we getting there what changes are going to

Be made staff-wise roster wise what’s the vision is it the same vision that you had when you walked in here is it a is it a new vision Vision all those kind of things you know do you want to be here do you still want to coach here is

There still goals do you still have the same you know dreams and aspirations the minute you walked in the I can’t imagine like between Robert Craft and and Bill bich other than maybe because this this just didn’t happen overnight I got to assume you know 24 years you know 20 no but like

Even this last year this this had to be maybe two years ago three years ago post Tom Brady maybe this you know who’s in Robert’s ear who’s he listening to who’s he talk to is it his son con man I mean like who gives him Direction now moving

Forward because he hasn’t had to there hasn’t been a coaching search or GM yeah GM forever those are two massive hires for any owner to have to make and now Robert Craft who I believe is an incredibly intelligent human being I think he is obviously he spent some time

During his statement to flexx a little bit M as he should congratulations because there’s some stats we got from hembo here about the bill bich era and obviously you can place them with Robert Craft era too because he’s the one that hired Bill bich Bill bich never lost a

Playoff game in which his team won a turnover battle which leads to another stat during belich che’s 24 seasons in New England the Patriots had the fewest turnovers 477 enforced the most 691 he’s plus 241 or something like that over his time there so they’re like incredibly smart football sound football which is

Probably with the story that he was selling to Robert Craft whenever he was interviewing for the job the first time whenever he said he thought he missed him whenever he didn’t hire him and then obviously he resigns from the Jets shortly after becoming the head coach of

The Jets to go up there but whenever you think about what the Patriots were before bill bich yeah when bich got to New England the Patriots had played 40 seasons were 37 games below 500 all time and had never won a championship so obviously it wasn’t like they inherited

A great franchise they turned one into one and they’ve never really had to make any changes at the two biggest spots that change an entire franchise so now all eyes are on what’s next what’s next what’s next which is a damn shame and we’ll do a lot of nostalgia we got

Ninkovic joining us here in about 20 minutes to tell some stories about life as a New England patrion underneath Bill bich negotiating with Bill bich whenever he’s up for free agency because once again he’s the GM he’s handling all the contract negotiation during the off SE

As well which is unheard of by the way absolutely absurd the amount of time that all of that takes is insane I don’t know how the guy’s able to get it accomplished 24 hours 7 days a week but whenever you think about what’s next everybody’s saying there’s going to be a

Transition process here in house isn’t that what’s kind of being leaked at this moment right now yeah right now um Tom Curran which uh his report initially bill being out correct uh him being out after the Germany game wrong uh but Tom keran right now saying that uh gerod

Mayo has been the succession plan which is kind of what a lot of people figure cuz last year he got a lot of head coaching opportunity interviews that um he ended up you know getting extension New England staying uh that that’s one of them obviously the vable buzz has

Been there I think it’s pretty simple it’s just one of those two guys I’m pretty I’m happy with e either of them but even you just reading those stats like that’s another thing that gets me it’s like crazy thinking about what everything say is making it worse it is

It’s crazy Bill bich had a 500 or better record against every single team in the NFL during his 24 seasons in New England that’s absurd you know they talk about Tomy this guy’s got a B 500 record every sing year he’s got B 500 against everybody in the entire NFL um bellich

Went 52 and 28 New England in games decided by three points or fewer yeah 52 and coaching special teams you kidding me that’s 65% of coin flip games is how HMO uh described that and then the big St here that really goes to the question about getting the next coach and the

Next GM the other 31 NFL teams and we have an incredible stat about or graphic about this the other 31 NFL teams 213 head coaches New England over the same time period one freaking boss this is coming from the dynasty documentary series that’s coming on to Apple he sat

Down to do an interview and he rolls his head and like at this exact screenshot he just looks like the dawn he like looks like the actual Godfather which is what he has been up there in New England running the show well in 23 head coaches

Like we need to add in the GMS because that’s north of 300 people like that that’s what’s so that’s what’s so absurd about the entire thing and people forget that like they’ve forgotten it for most of his career it’s like Bill’s lost the locker room all that when

Things aren’t going well Bill Bill built the bill actually picked the locker room built a building like built every obviously Robert crafted paid for everything didn’t put anything on the city which is another incredible thing about the New England Patriots but it’s just like this guy this guy has done

Everything forever in the fact that it’s over is just still mind blowing now I will say the Indianapolis Colts fans the Pittsburgh Steelers fans I guess Baltimore Ravens fans in there the ones that were you know snake bitten afcs yeah the entire AFC the Jets fans the Bills fans all the AFC Dolphins

Fans all the coaches for all those teams as well big sigh relief this morning as they woke up to take their morning dump and they read that it is officially over the bich Patriots dynasty over there’s a lot of people that are obviously emotional about it sure it’s a beautiful

Thing that has come to to an end professional sports provides us things that we could have never imagined having a relationship with a guy that you love that you probably never really actually met but all the happiness and joy that he has brought to your family and to you

Throughout your entire existence has made you rever this man as a icon yeah it’s gone see you it’s over you’re heartbroken a lot of people incredibly pumped though that they don’t have to deal with Bill bich in the AFC anymore to your point uh during the bellich time

The Steelers I believe were three and four in AFC Championship Games those four losses were all to the New England Patriots 3-0 against anyone else they played 0 and4 to Bill b and the New England Patriots during that time so there was a stat I believe that uh the

Most amount of playoff games won yes uh is ever is by Bill bich to New England in like 30 31 or something like that and then the Steelers and Seahawks Seahawks were second and third with most playoff wins during that time and combined it was 29 or something like yeah so like

They had more playoff wins than the next two playoff wins combined over the same time period when you talk about dominating Chuck Pagano when you’re talk about being a dominant Dynasty for so long in a league that is promoting parody every single year with the salary

Cap and how it’s made up how the draft order is how you can get one guy change a program change a franchise you could do that you can have a couple injuries and fall off a cliff one year you can literally be at the top and all the way

To the bottom in a matter of two years I was on a team that was undefeated until he chose to lose couple years later completely defeated until Dan rovski almost lost to srew luck by winning a couple games at the end of the entire thing the NFL is not supposed to be run

By one organization and Bill bich was running it from the coach and GM position for so long why why was that the case you think why is Bill bich an alien why is he able to do stuff that nobody else is able to do Chuck Bano I

Just think back to the decision he made just when we’re staring at bledo here right when he gets injured and he plugs in Tom and then bledo comes back and he’s healthy right and he says huhuh so the decisions that have to be made when you sit in that chair and the

Decisions that bill made over the course of those 24 years there not everybody’s built like that not everybody’s wired like that not everybody can go and grab Corey Dillan like Cory Dylan was like nobody wanted anything to do with him right what does Bill do he grabs him brings him in and

He has an unbelievable season right 1400 yards okay okay Randy Moss I’m in Oakland at the time 506 it’s the end of the 06 season okay he trades for him get giv him a fourth round pick yep for Randy Moss So Randy Moss is like dead

Right uh what he how many touchdowns he brought record 23 this one this this was every year every weekend you can go on and on about the decisions that have to be made you said he was always two three years ahead okay with with knowing when

A player’s like starting to do this and that’s hard to do especially when you develop and he’s and I know there’s a a soft side there I know there’s a human side to coach belich because those players they they don’t talk about a guy just because hey he wins he’s a great

Coach he’s this he’s that those guys know he gave a about him but he also was strong enough in those moments to say hey it’s time to move on or it’s to you know what this guy’s got something left we’re going to bring him to our place and he’s going to excel

Here and then we’re going to move on might be one year big deal but then you win a championship with them it’s just it’s like unprecedented the decisions that he’s made over the course of his coaching career 24 years in you know in in New England that led him to this and

To do it in this in this era of football you mentioned the parody they don’t it’s not you’re not supposed to be able to do that with the salary cap the way is way free agency see us the way the draft is you know the way human nature

Works what he said about Drew Bluto like we talked about in the man in the arena it wasn’t like Drew Bluto was some guy they paid him a100 million like they they paid him aund million he comes in beats the Steelers in the AFC Championship after Brady gets hurt and

Then still has the go to make the decision like yeah we’re g we’re still going to go with Tom normal humans don’t like the rest of the dudes the 31 most of them don’t do that but it’s but it’s all but he nobody watched more tape nobody spent more time

Everybody’s going to tell you they but how many years how many years how many years 49 consecutive Seasons he’s been coaching in the National Football League now I coached 16 18 total right I went 16 straight and then got whacked and 17 took 18 off and then two more years in

Chicago right that’s that’s 16 straight right he’s got 33 more than that okay and and still go and and you mentioned hey there’s a sigh of a relief right but yes the rest of the league is still on hold to see where this son of a gun

Lands like please don’t land in my division don’t land in my seriously the relief too like I I what if it’s a team they’re saying Oh No Big Mike McCarthy you better do something you better do something or Jerry’s be like you don’t think every owner because when you look

At these guys you look at Pete and his presser you look at you know belich and his like those guys don’t look 72 years old no they don’t they don’t speak like they’re 72 year old you know I’m drooling bill1 Bill 71 he’s 71 he’ll be

72 in April I’m sorry um yeah those guys are young they got energy and and then somebody’s going to figure out okay damn I can I I can maybe make a run with this dude he’s got at least three three five years left if he does hold on

Though you get him on good graces with you you know like Payton goes over to Denver he lives in Denver full-time yeah he’s in their building full-time right he’s like around in full whenever they show a picture of him he’s a Denver Bronco it’s like Bill bellich can go

Somewhere else now pton had to win a Super Bowl like Bill will have to have success wherever he goes but you potentially can poach him for post coaching too where he’s around the building and helping everything out as you go forward like the advisor thing that has been offered to Pete Carol

Although Pete Carol has not ruled out coaching somewhere next year that situation is certainly one that is getting buried in the Sabin in bich convo because we’re talking about two goats here college football goat and NFL goat but then you think Pete Carroll he’s the only guy that’s ever been able

To not far behind I mean you’re talking about three absolute legendary coaches that are currently in a brand new chapter Sabin going into retirement I’m excited to see what he does next there’s been a lot of rumors swirling obviously we’ve enjoyed the hell we enjoyed the

Hell out of the year that we got to have with him did he enjoy it is he thinking maybe you know his talking thing not too bad he going to move to India and join the show 5 days a week right right there in that little desk

Thats wait I mean he said the last time he was on he was like Hey listen NFL coaches right now they kind of have a better lifestyle than college coaches maybe maybe he’s joining Bill staff and going somewhere is he going to the NFL is he going to that beach house they uh

That he did the show from last he’s not retiring I mean I showed him he’s back at work today he’s back in the building today same exact time he always gets there yeah I think friend of ours is actually talking to him today from the building it’s like very F everything’s

Very interesting that kind of seemingly came out of nowhere what we asked him last week like hey how come everybody just says you’re going to retire all the time he says it’s because I’m old I guess and then there’s the clip of him talking to Kirby Smart before the SEC

Championship where he said I’m way too old for this I believe is what he tells Kirby Smart so I guess there has been a couple little yeah te Le and a lot of people rumoring and hindering towards it but it happened and kind of came out and

It’s the same for the bich news it’s like we’ve talked about it here here at nause moment for a couple years like I remember the first time I really got brought up on the show this year though we ask Sher uh we said is Bill bich

Gonna get fired up there in New England and he goes that is not in my world I’m not hearing it but even the thought that we’re saying it is pretty crazy right I’m like yeah yeah it is it is pretty crazy that that we’re even talking about

It and then now that it’s reality it’s like where’s he going next who’s his staff if they’re going to hire D Mayo okay okay what does that mean for Steve bich what does that mean on the offensive side think Josh McDaniels is Avail Bill O’Brien’s available like are

They put are they taking the whole gang just to a new city like is he GM again is he head coach again like now we have to because we’re Sports media we have to ask those questions and I’ll be very fascinated to see because like David terer in Carolina second

Wealthiest owner in the entire NFL yearning for credibility yes yearning scream in for throwing throwing cups of ice on people I’ve heard those people that guy’s still in the hospital IU in a coma I think future earnings because everything that was lost from that ice cube hitting exactly where it

Was temp yearning for credibility There’s an opportunity there for him to say you’re GM your head coach and we talked about him rebuilding the Patriots I don’t think he wants to do that to another uh program or franchise but you’d have to guess what his take would

Be on Bryce young I think would be the big one and he obviously loves Sabin him and have a great relationship he’s from Alabama I assum he knows a lot about him but what if he comes in like 2 30 million $35 million we’ll pay you every

Single year you’re the GM you’re the head coach do whatever just please make us good and Bill’s going to say here we meet on Mondays no we don’t meet on Mondays and then we keep it moving it’s like that could be a little sh and then you talk about yearning for another ring

Before you know I mean the guy’s old Cowboys like that being talked about you could certainly see Jerry Jones doing something like that oh yeah now Big Mike McCarthy has had a phenomenal year the best year he’s had as a head coach of the Dallas Cowboys he’s doing more this

Year than he’s ever done in the past he’s more of a reason for the success that they’re having and everybody’s like well he better yep better go get a ring we don’t get another Banner flying Jerry World he’s out it’s like what an insane profession that you can be a guy who has

A Super Bowl already in Big Mike McCarthy you can have your best year that you’ve ever had but now that Bill bich che’s available it’s like everybody is on the hot seat and I’m very thankful that Shane Sten is proven he’s the next bill bich here in Indianapolis so we

Don’t even have to dabble in the conversation but to what coach Pagano brought up earlier he’s like every owner is currently looking at their head coach Bingo looking at their GM hey I’m gonna need you to come draw I’m G I mean you said you got bellich Carol and

Sabin why not just throw it out there what they all they can do is say no they should all coach together but that was I I was going to say like how about we run it back to the Cleveland days right we got belich and Sav goes as his DC oh sa

Just defensive coordinator by the way doesn’t have to deal with all the other stuff he would love it Bill bich not talking to media anyways do it who’s GM there both of them don’t matter let Carol talk to the media great yeah P Carol Lomo comes

Back yeah let Pete Carol talk he could be the motivational the Tony Robins wild January yeah we’ve had absolutely ridiculous the one team that like doesn’t get talked about because they had a great year to finish the season was the Raiders like I I don’t think I

Would rule out the Raiders who’s the owner who’s the part owner Mark Davis who obviously football Family Man Antonio Pierce though yeah no it stinks for Antonio Pierce but like Brady could you imagine Raiders hiring another New England I don’t know I think it’s different bill that one you’re hiring

The Patriot away I get that’s okay yeah and who’s the quarterback there this one’s okay you Antonio Pierce like actually I get it I can I work can I can I I DC for this can I can we at least do some of that you think that’s how

Antonio Pierce would look at it I don’t know I hope I hope that would be the case but like what about the Chargers I think Antonio I’m sorry he’s earned that that’s what I think I think so too that’s why like obviously they have an opening it’s being talked about but all

Of us have seemingly just been like that’s a t p well that’s the thing though like he did earn it but that was that was before bich was available now that bich che’s like available there you you would have to think that every owner at the very least is like yeah we have

To I mean I guess except for the commanders who have already said they’re not interested but joining us now is a man who played for bill bich for a long ass time MH won a couple Super Bowls this man loves cars and engines he’ll actually go fix one right now if you ask

Him to he’ll get in there he’ll toss spark POG in there scratches some things up how many ponies got Hood I think got 400 we can make get 415 with a little right here I love that about him a stud a stallion a man who also played

Alongside D Mayo for a long time which is seemingly the next head coach of the Patriots if you listen to some sources ladies and gentlemen Robert ninkovic Pat what’s up man how you doing hey I’m fantastic Connor actually almost broke down and started crying at the beginning of the show after the

Statement was made by Bill bich where he got emotional when he was talking about the fans and how appreciative he was of them and he’s been doing a lot of like nostalgia going through old videos old photos of him at parades him at games with his dad and his brother and what

Bill bich has brought to him in the entire New England uh area in Patriots fans obviously a bit emotional how are you feeling while watching that all kind of take place in a dynasty officially being over Rob Movic so Pat I’m gonna be honest with you this got me

Emotional man is it it’s like it’s insane because you’re you’re looking at Bill bellich he’s leaving after 24 years the Dynasty and just the way he’s talking and clearly Robert Craft is talking about well when we see him on another sideline and a cut off Hoodie so

He’s going to continue to coach clearly that was that was a statement made by Robert Craft that bill bich is going to continue to coach and the emotional part obviously Bill gave me an opportunity and with that opportunity I was able to to take that play a long time win a lot

Of football games win championships and you know it’s it was an amazing opportunity for me at the time because I was out of the league basically out of the league I had an ACL injury and he was the only guy that gave me a chance

So I owe a lot of what I have today to Bill bich and giving me that opportunity but you know the emotional side of it I it’s it’s pretty tough because moving forward you look around the league right now there are teams that have H and the

Coaching H kind of like iffy coaching and Bill bich is walking out the door so it’s a weird time I mean you look at the Seattle seah you look at Seattle right now right and Pete Carroll is is not going to be the head coach for that

Football team a guy with a ton of experience and then Bill bellich leaving the Patriots he’s GNA clearly go and Coach somewhere um it’s definitely a weird time in New England probably the first time in a long time that anybody has has felt this way as a patriot fan

Yeah certainly 24 years of success at the GM and the head coaching position which leads me to my next question for you obviously as a head coach he’s the greatest of all time everybody kind of talks about that I have said though and I think you kind of alluded to that

Where you’re out of the league nobody gave you a chance and he brings you in you become a pro bowler multiple times Super Bowl champion nobody talks about his did you make proo no well that’s the fan vote you know the fan vote I’m sure

The player vote I would have got in but the fan vote you know the popularity there I didn’t get it but it’s okay I I was close I was pretty close I think I was like uh like uh the the average Joe team I think I made that once all right

Well hey there we go pretty good team good that’s a good team I was on that one a few times as well but nonetheless had immense success and he saw that found that brought that in did the negotiation he did the whole never gets talked about about how great of a

General manager he is because he didn’t build the team in the same way that I think you know they would want to dream uh fantasy football build a team in general management so like six Super Bowls as GM do you think he just gives that up I think he said in a press

Conference that he doesn’t have to be the guy that’s being just wants to do whatever is best for the team but whoever brings him in next let’s say it’s any it could be any job let’s say anywhere do you think he’s GM and coach and they’re bringing the whole song and

Dance to the next place or how do you think this is kind of a line going forward and what was he like as a GM day-to-day as you had to work with him well he’s definitely a a very smart negotiator he understands the leverage aspect of contracts right so Bill’s the

Best you’re not going to get one over on Bill in any type of contract negotiation so um you know as far as him going somewhere else I would think that he would look at this as an opportunity to go somewhere that maybe has some more Talent offensively maybe he has an

Offensive line that he doesn’t have to go and build up or find a quarterback or get a receiver all those things that in New England right now you know if you watch this team this year they struggled offensively in a lot of areas so if you’re bill bich you don’t have time you

Know four or five years to build something you you want to go somewhere and you want to win right now so you look at this environment in the NFL right now if you are a team that maybe you’re a one piece away maybe you need a quarterback and Bill’s able to go and

Find somebody bring in somebody and work with what they have you know it’d be an opportunity for that team to do some some great things so you know even for you you look at the Cowboys you I I think um I don’t know who said it on get

Up but I do believe that somebody was saying that that McCarthy if he doesn’t win that it might be his last year and I could see Bill bich you know say Green Bay goes down to Dallas and takes care of business I could see Jerry Jones

Saying hey hey hey Bill hey man much I only got so I only got so many times left uh so to speak at the the old glory hole so you know Bill Bill be licking his shops to go down there to um the Dallas with a team that’s loaded like

That yeah glory hole is always tough to find I used to watch that gold uh gold Gold Rush they’re always looking for that Glory found that that hole right there yeah yeah the glory one there’s gold on the other side of it obviously and there there’s that Meme where you know the guy

With the axe is walking he’s just this far from the glory hole and then he he turns around he quits Jerry ain’t going to do that we know that that’s a funny we brought that up because whoever said it on first take or get up wasn’t like

The first person to say that like a lot of people are like Jerry Jones feels like the right person to work alongside bill because Jerry understands Bill bich they’ve been around each other for so long like anybody that hires him has to be a guy that understands who’s they’re

Who they’re getting right and it kind of goes back to what I was originally asking about Jerry Jones and his son Steven I think are the general manager president things you think Bill would just want to say in that entire thing as opposed to doing the whole job and just

Focusing on coaching or how do you think that would go I think he would focus on coaching and you look at the process right over the years he was able to he walked into situation where the Patriots when he first started you know they were a team that was they were they’re kind

Of middle of the road but they had a bunch of talent right and he was able to take that Talent defensively and and really make it a championship level defense so if you let Bill bich come in and just coach your team up specifically on situational football you know there

Might be less oh I don’t know uh before the halftime management issues with timeouts I mean we’ve seen that in the past everywhere with Dallas but uh you know those are the little things things that at the end of the day your head coach is there to make sure he manages

All those little situational football things that bill really I mean he could do that in his sleep right so I think that that with the situation correct and the good roster bill would be okay with coming in and saying you know what y’all do the personnel and I’ll stick to what

I do best and that’s coaching this football team Cowboys or wherever is obviously ridiculous with Bill bich as the head coach thinking about but Mike m he is 12 and five last three seasons AB could be because that that’s the mo that’s Bill Bell though I think like a

Lot of media people that maybe have been Jaded by Bill bich don’t have a grasp on the reality of like hey this is the this is the guy 71 years old who cares we’ll take him over whomever and uh you think he has success again con man has a

Question for you but for me you think he’s able to get to the mountain top one more time if not do you think he can do you think he will cuz obviously Tom going to Tampa winning huge part of the whole deal pton Manning going to Denver

Winning huge part of the whole deal Matthew Stafford going to Los Angeles Rams winning huge part of the whole deal it it feels like that is a part of it you think Bill is able to do something the Andy Reid goes to Kansas City Y wins

I mean do you think that is something he’ll be able to accomplish and will accomplish yeah I mean I think given the right circumstance and and a little bit of of luck you know Pat on in football every single year you lose one or two guys and you’re in trouble right so if

He was able to go to a roster that had a great quarterback you know things that he was able to work with and things worked out well during the season he didn’t lose anybody that was a major piece I think Bill um obviously whatever team that he goes to they would clearly

Be a team that you would think has an opportunity to get to a Super Bowl I think with his pedigree and the way that he does coach everybody and everybody says he’s a defensive coach Bill is a three-phase football coach you know he he was a special teams coach you know

When I first got there I made the team as a Long Snapper punt team guy right bet right so right so I got to that team the only way that I made that team was to go in at 5: am meet with Brian Flores in a little cubicle and every day

Because he was an assistant assistant special teams coach at the time and me and B flow would go through everything this because Bill said the only way you’re making you’re going to have a chance here you got to do multiple things and you got to play on teams and

He was a special teams coach he’s a defensive coach we all know that but he’s also an offensive coach so wherever he goes he’s going to help every phase and he’s going to feel rejuvenated I’d assume as well that’s what we talked about with Aaron whenever he got over to

The Jets those first OTAs there’s somebody in here that has never seen Aaron Rogers throw a football before a whole new training staff is getting to watch Aaron Rogers warmup so now his warm-up is even the best that it’s ever been you got a whole new tone

And a standard that you have to show to people that maybe have never seen it but have certainly heard about it that can really do something especially to a motivated human being con man has a question for you and I’ll tell you what ninko you said you were getting

Emotional so is he that was that was beautiful to watch it was beautiful to watch KH yeah yeah it’s tough day Nick you know that and you know Pat mentioned your two time Super Bowl champion thank you for those by the way uh not just two Super Bowls either the Malcolm Butler

Interception Super Bowl Seattle comeback Atlanta Falcons 28 to3 comeback from those two games or even you know before the game leading up to it is there anything that stands out to you that you remember from Bill specifically whether it was a pregame speech or even a you

Know night before speech like he’s done before you know everyone goes back to the Philadelphia Super Bowl uh that we won in 2004 yeah against Andy Reid and about how they already mapped out the parade in the you know Philly newspaper for that Tuesday leading up and he

Showed the team and everything was there anything like that that kind of hit you that you weren’t expecting today or one that you always go back to when you’re thinking about your time in New England with Bill yeah so there there was a moment in

Uh I go back to when we were playing the Giants in Indianapolis actually and I remember it was the it was the fourth quarter right I’m sitting I’m actually on a knee and I remember this like yesterday the helmet that I have from that game actually still has the the

Paint on the back side of it cuz I was on I was leaning on my helmet and there was a point in that game where the offense had the ball they were driving and I remember looking up at the scoreboard and I was thinking to myself

At that time we’re going to win this game and I’m G to win my first Super Bowl okay and then we all know what happened Wes there was that throw Wes drops the pass we should have been able to put the game away at that point it

Didn’t happen we go back out on the field couple crazy catches they March down the field you know defensively there’s a term called Rolex right and when you hear Rolex that’s the worst possible thing you can hear defensively because you’re letting them score no no you want to save time now offensively

That’s the best call you want to hear because they it’s basically telling you not to score right Rolex Rolex don’t score so we let them score Bradshaw should have stopped he tried but he he rolled into the end zone so they go up we lose that game now going back from

That point on I kept thinking about the moment that I looked at the clock and I thought to myself I was going to win a Super Bowl so going up to the Seattle game right so we’re playing Seattle this is 2014 this is the night before the

Game and Bill gives a speech to the whole team and at some point it it just was like a lightning bolt and it struck me cuz he said all right at some point in this game we might be up or we might not be we might be down ER you might

Mess up you might miss a play you have to make sure that you forget about what happened the play before and you can’t look to two plays ahead you can’t look to the end of the game you can’t look at the clock and think we’re going to win this game based

On any situation and when he said that it’s talking to me he’s talking to me right he’s talking to me but I think it’s human nature at certain points in a game to look at the the time left on the clock you look at the score and you think we got this we

Are going to win this game and he brought it back to think about what your responsibility is in your assignment for the specific play that’s about to happen if you could be punting the ball and you’re trying to get it inside the five you could be on kickoff or turn and your

Job is to kick out the tackle you could be on punt team you got the two3 twist right all those things that every single guy has a responsibility on the team think about what your job is for that specific moment and if you can do that

And then move on in the next play Move On In the next play don’t think about the end of the game and there were moments in that game where it was tough to do that right we go up we go down before the half Russell Wilson throws a touchdown pass then we

Come back in the second half they’re driving the foot ball the crazy catch with the tip pass when Malcolm comes in right on the five they run the ball and then they throw the interception that whole time I just kept thinking I got to do my job I got to continue to just

Focus on the next play and Bill’s speech before that game really struck me and made me do that throughout that whole game and then we won that game it was the it was like a weight coming off my chest because it had been 10 years since

The Patriots had won a Super Bowl it was 04 and then it was 14 and I was the diff I was the new regime I was the new chapter the Patriot Way of the the new defense coming in I wasn’t Vel I wasn’t mcginness I wasn’t brusi you know I was

The new guy right but I had won anything you know when you played for the Patriots in the early 2000 2010 2011 2012 everyone thought you won a Super Bowl it’s like no I lost one and now I’m trying to win one so 14 was such a big

Moment for me me because it had been 10 years a lot of people don’t realize it was 10 years between ‘ 04 and their next Super Bowl and he was there the whole damn time what a start just like you we appreciate the hell out of you ninko what’s the name of your

Podcast this is the Dan and ninko show so we do once a week it’s uh it’s a fun show we review beer we have a great time we talk about local New England sports cars cuz you know I love cars love it hey Pat I know you got a

Few take care man appreciate you noo n they go obviously this is a conversation starter for everybody when they’re talking about the Dynasty and they’re still Raiders fans that are pissed off about this here’s the game plan go out there in the middle of a snowstorm and

Make a kick that you’re not supposed to make at all from 45 yards this is the Patriots season on the line do you remember this moment right here in your head were you scared to death were you pumped I would say I was probably more scared to death as I’m

Watching the Tuck Rule review and realizing holy we get the ball back oh yeah by the way it’s coming all down to you this will be a 45 yd attempt that’s been a Terry’s luck from this distance of late once I got on on the field i’ really had three thoughts

First and foremost try to attack the ball but stay light on your feet just like anybody you’re running on Ice if your pleats don’t stick you’re falling on the ground and then the ball’s going to end up hitting your center right in the back of the head I wasn’t thinking

About missing for the last five if that’s truly what was going on for me it was all about hey you know these guys aren’t going to be able to get a good Rush get it straight and get it above the line of scrimmage and thank goodness

As it left and I saw that they didn’t block it then it was all about I don’t know if it’s going to have enough distance in this snow you know let’s hope for the best and and I really didn’t know until the the referees at the back of the end zone raised their

Hands I couldn’t really see couldn’t tell if it was good or not oh yeah cuz it’s a snow globe what a kick what a moment obviously that would go on to launch a dynasty that the NFL will never see again or before what a kick what a

Moment here’s an overtime you got to make another one substantially easier kick not just because of the distance but we call the time out we cleaned a bunch of ground this the one time that a coach actually icing me probably benefited us right because it gave my

Offensive lineman with the big size 16 cleats to get out there and move a little bit more ground and you know not to say a gamewinner is ever easy but this one compared to the one quarter before that was substantially different so you’re coming out here sighing a

Little bit of relief oh thank God I could see the ground I’m not going to fall we’ve already done this this is no problem and then you murder that ball dead center and then obviously in the Super Bowl you have like a 49 y that you

Hit at the top of the upright couldn’t have been a better ball I don’t think you hit a cleaner you have something inside of you okay that not a lot of people have and Joe burrow seemingly is a guy that has what is that I would love

To tell you that I was born with or I developed ability to you know be a clutch Under Pressure I do think that there’s certain people that are born with the want or the ability to say Michael Jordan you know Tiger Woods mariana rivera these guys are or and

Ladies are the type of people that go I want the game coming down to me I want to be the reason LeBron you know I want to be the reason why we win or lose I was kind of that same person you know playing soccer as Center Midfield and

Baseball I either wanted to pitch or catch leave it there I know what you’re thinking I know you anyway but I I I always wanted to you know be in the middle of the game and be the reason why so once I get to football obviously 59

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The program starts now football is currently experiencing a moment isn’t it yeah yeah you say that where three massive historic names in coaching of football have all been required to experience change at the same damn time Nick Sabin in Alabama yesterday announced he’s going to retire

Mhm whoa still shut up at work today though he’s going to help the team the coaches the players in this transition era doesn’t want to leave them high and dry but knows he doesn’t want to do another college football season as a head coach and for that we say thank you

For allowing us to experience your last year thank you ni greatest of all time which led to an SEC Championship and obviously a loss to the inevitable national champions in the Rose Bowl Then Pete Carroll kind of forced out as head coach for Seattle but ends up on terms

With Seattle that he will remain an adviser for the Seattle Seahawks going forward unless seemingly a place one offer him a head coaching job kind of what we heard in the press conference yesterday now that might change we might have misheard but that is certainly something that our ears picked up while

He was talking in an incredible fashion very complimentary fashion but also in a way that made us feel like oh Pete Carol was kind of forced out here at 72 years old of the Seattle Seahawks which was a shocker obviously Vel fired a few weeks ago and then bill bich and the Patriots

Amicably parting ways announced this morning via Adam schfer Ian Rapaport uh every Everybody news outlet and then they both gave statements about how appreciative they are and they move forward the talk table was here at Tai Schmidt app auson Connor who is obviously diard Patriots fan who has

Experienced a lot of emotions this morning yeah a lot of emotions it’s a weird day it’s it’s a weird day for me for sure I haven’t felt these things in a very very long time but again just grateful for it and you know we’re on to the next

Chapter are you absolutely we’re not still just on that last page still maybe thinking about we go back go back a couple Pages oh I will I will later but for for the rest of the show yeah no I’m we’re on in the next chapter later an

Hour and 56 minutes yep mhm I watch believe me I got a lot of sad sad sad montages bookmarking my Twitter I’m going to have a great great night I I won’t say I saw 10 minutes after it was announced yeah they were yeah no believe

Me people had them queued up I actually funny you say that we might be talking about the same video I watched 10 seconds of one of these sad montage videos and no can’t do this right now and I haven’t watched it yet not ready no not not ready whatsoever well it did

Feel like a movie as they were both speaking Robert Craft will speak again here in about 56 minutes he has his own presser we will stream it if there’s nothing coming from it we will certainly cut it and then talk about what else is happening over there one half of the

Hammer Cowboys T digs here Die Hard Pittsburgh Steelers fan the big bad wolf is seemingly out of the AFC oh stays in the AFC still problem for everybody yeah but it is like cuz he was he was the big bad B wolf in New England Now is it

Going to happen somewhere else maybe probably he’s one he’s the greatest coach of all time but you know the big bad wolf is out of New England and that goes hand inand so yeah a lot of a lot of their fan bases are celebrating the Dynasty is

Officially dead 36 years as a football coach 18 the NFL 18 the college Chuck bagano that’s wild to say wild to think about wild to be here surreal yeah like you’re at multiple teams while he was up there doing his thing you going to go back to coaching Chuck yeah you thinking

About it you’re not 72 yeah yeah I feel good I got great energy I got great juice I beat the out of ugly Joe thought I was walking down to the court to play some ping pong and next thing you know I’m staring down ugly Joe in a

Three- round battle you beat him you beat him decision but you beat him barely yeah it’s amazing just to think of the guys that the profession has lost for the meantime you know who knows if they come back and Coach again I’m sure that I’m sure that at least probably you

Know two of the three do um if there’s an opportunity but I mean when we throw around the word goat Loosely sometimes and rightfully so to people we know and we care about and this that yeah make it feel good and they’ve done and they’re in the conversation they’ve done they’ve done

Amazing things but you look at the the numbers Bill bich and and Nick Sabin what they have done seven natties and college football six Super Bowls go to nine I I mean it’s unprecedented and then do it in the era of that that he did it in when you’re not supposed to be

Able to have sustained success like he had up there just phenomenal incredible it a hell of a run it was a beautiful run now there’s obviously a lot of conversation about who’s going to end up where because both craft and Bill bich alluded to him continuing to coach he’s

15 wins away from the all-time wins record as a head coach in the NFL I assume he’s already got the GM one I assume that is already taken place a winningest guy to ever GM or coach in NFL history is 15 wins away we all assume that is what has been driving him

And motivating him and knowing that he would continue to coach joining us now as a man who’s the all-time leading tackler for the Green Bay Packers a college football national champion a Super Bowl champion and a current president of Ohio ladies and gentlemen AJ HW AJ it happened this morning quickly out

Of nowhere one tweet one post one press conference two statements and it was over here we are now the Dynasty’s dead how do you feel AJ I mean honestly I I watched it I’m watching con man talk about it and I get it like good for you

Con like I I you know that’s what’s cool about sports that you remember like who you were with when you were doing those things when you were going to games when you were watching stuff so I think that’s why it’s sad that’s why you’re thinking like yeah and as you get older

You do think about things that end like wow it’s weird like to think this is it like Bill is not going to be coaching the Patriots anymore now as Robert Craft said he will be on another sideline very soon it sounds like I don’t know where

That might be but yeah it is kind of sad man and seeing Bill almost get get there and get like he was starting to get a little emotional yeah it was it’s cool to see but it’s super sad at the same time I appreciate the fact that bill

Took a little bit of time during his statement to flex a little bit yeah had to and then you know whenever Robert Craft asks a couple qu I I I think we’ve exceeded expectations and we have yeah we did yeah yeah just on yes yeah we start Bill acknowledging his success for

The first time here as of late seemingly I’m happy for because that’s like hey there’s a human having some happiness in there because you don’t know if he gets to have that even during his statement today he said this is a celebration was is it I you tell me

Buddy I don’t Chuck dropped a stat on us earlier 49 straight years of coaching in the NFL for Bill bich wow that’s when I say coaches get institutionalized like how do you function in society when you’ve been coaching for that long this guy is unbelievable dude this is this is red or

Whatever you know from shash exactly yeah read the sweet wristband he gets outside for two three weeks experiences what retirement is he’s just thinking about grabbing yeah I gotta go back I gotta get up get me back Tom Moore Tom Moore is a guy that a lot of people

Don’t know you look him up he’s been on NFL sideline for 150 straight years since the league was actually began and he’s still coaching somewhere somehow advising doing his thing but bill bich hasn’t just been 49 years the last 24 years of it he’s been the general

Manager and the head coach and a pirate at a Halloween party so talk about wearing hats yeah exactly that’s a lot of them that is a lot of hats and uh he you never heard him ever you know no never never like I’m tired no hey

Why’ the team do this we got screwed by the refs you never really ever it was always just ball this is business this is what we’re doing and then you hear the stories behind the scenes it’s like guy talks he’s hilarious people love him enjoy him it’s just like it

Feels like he’s done it all right and obviously whenever you win Taylor Swift said this people throw rocks at things to shine that’s true and this song has been shining long time a long time not only with his rings but just what he’s been doing and him in the way he

Operates and the fact that he never lost his hard Edge either is one that I appreciate going into commercial break on Christmas yes against the Steelers this past year four and 12 yeah yeah four and 13 yeah at the time though oh oh at the time I believe we 4 and 11 3

And 11 3 and 11 3 and 11 at the time 24 years in okay 3 and 11 two and whatever it is he is heard chewing out a referee on a hot mic like on a zoomed out blimp shot of the stadium you can’t do that

You got to give us time after you spot the hard into a commercial break it’s like how’s this guy have the competitive stamina AJ how does this dude have the energy the juice and the want to continue to be this guy you’re talking about one of the most competitive humans

To ever exist I think no if anybody could have just like said whatever and not pay attention but you talk you every everybody talks about the details the details the details do your job the the culture was really simple when you could ask anybody Joe Mo on the street walk by

What’s the culture in New England do your job but all anybody ever talks about is the details and he he’s Relentless he has never taken his foot off the gas taken a sigh of re never ever and that’s what separates him from everybody else all right so let’s move along to another

Coach that is no longer in the same place that he had been for a very long time a guy that built a culture and he’s built a brand and built a name not only at the college level but at the NFL Pete Carroll out as Seattle Seahawks head

Coach that’s how it was reported originally yes Pete Carroll out as head coach as Seahawks is like whoa whoa whoa what does that mean then it’s like he’ll be an advisor like oh this is the Brad Stevens situation for the Celtics where you basically say hey coach do you want

To potentially do this other role as the president of the team as opposed to coach and Brad Stevens’s like yes I would love to do that they’ve had great success that’s what kind of and then we heard his press conference and then he talked about how he competed to keep his

Position as the head coach of the Seattle Seahawks here’s the clip from the press conference and I don’t think a lot of people heard because it was in question portion after the written statement portion in which he was emotional and fantastic as Pete Carol always is this question though caught all of our

Attention went into the decision to step back I guess agreed to step back and not be the coach anymore why did you why did you agree to do that well I I competed pretty hard to be the coach um just so you know it’s wanted to make sure that I

Stood up for all of our coaches and the players and the things that we had accomplished and not not so that we could be the coach still but so that we could continue to have a chance to be successful and keep the organization going that’s what I was fighting for so

I I in that regard that was what I was representing in our discussions and uh we got got to a good part good clean spot where it made sense and and uh you know I went along with it with their int so he explains right there that he

Competed for the job that means he went in there like you explained earlier laid out his vision for the future what they could do how they could change it and they just didn’t agree with that and then they said we don’t like that and then they amicably come to a decision to

Move forward and he helps with the transition as an adviser but still potentially he’s going to be a coach later what’s going on over there and how do you think Pete Carroll sees it all yeah so he obviously walked into that meeting with John Snider and had an

Agenda had a plan you know and and full of enthusiasm you know piss and vinegar positivity as as Pete Carroll is and said okay this is this is how I see it and obviously John Schneider or whoever ownership down to John schn hey we need something new we need a change some

Something happened there and you know the general manager John you know I’m guessing I don’t know this is the guy that said hey look we you know we’re thinking about you know maybe moving on we want you to stick around we want you to be an integral you’re amaz you know

He’s telling him all the great things right that he did for this organization two Super Bowls won a Super Bowl all these wins all the stuff the we don’t want we want you around but we don’t want you to be the head coach it’s wild to think about for Pete Carol because

He’s built that brand AJ you know like it’s almost like Seattle Seahawks is the P Carol brand obviously he was there legion of boom Russell Wilson without legion of boom Russell Wilson Russell Wilson leaves still Pete Caroll and I guess it’s one of those situations where they’re looking at the Glory Days of

What it was at the beginning of the Pete Carol run and they’re hoping that that will come much sooner again but who’s better than Pete Caroll yeah who who’s better that’s the big question AJ who’s better than Bill bich who’s better than Pete Carroll who’s better than Mike Vel

And I guess they’re all just assuming yeah they can find one of those and then you look around it’s like not easy to find these guys or girls I guess now that there is many opportunities around the NFL there’s not easy to find these coaches that are able to get a culture

Sustain a culture move a culture let alone all the X’s and O’s it’s like you got to find a real leader Pete Carroll has been that this entire time and it’s like we’ll just move on now he’s 72 so this time had to come at some point but seemingly earlier than Pete Carroll

Expected AJ yeah that’s what I want to know like why why now what what was like what happened throughout the season I guess that made this happen now but didn’t uh Pete even say in his initial comments like I’m excited for Jon to kind of have control of this thing

Meaning John Schneider the GM like he so he can truly make all the decisions that GMS normally do is that what he meant yeah and if you listen to some of what Schultz said yesterday Pete Carol had a lot of say I think and how thing goes so

It’s like was there they hired didn’t they have Pete before they brought in John I remember in that whole hiring process John Snider came from Green Bay I was in Green Bay with him he’s the man he is awesome so I think they were like they were hand inand in everything so I

Wonder if they were thinking to themselves we want to give more power to this guy will that be the case if you’re still that’s probably a weird hand over you can’t just all of a sudden after 14 Seasons say all right well yeah I’m going to step back on the roster

Management for a little bit like I don’t know if that would work were you going to say something there truck about the power well he he had the title of VP of football Ops too I think the minute he got there head coach and vice president

Football Ops so he final yes he had final say over uh him and uh so Pete got there in 2010 John Schneider also got there in 2010 oh but Pete was giv power to help him be I I didn’t see it as the I’m excited for John I saw it I was like

I’m excited to see how JN takes over this I mean think about that though he goes from Russell Wilson to Gino Smith and this was before Gino you know I didn’t write back though well they wrote me off whatever that was before that happened so for the fact that Pete

Carroll went from their franchise Super Bowl winning quarterback who I mean people feel the way he feels Russell Wilson was unbelievable at many different moments for the Seattle Seahawks to go from him and then right into a 10- seven playoff season we sure they went and played the 49ers were

Beating the 49ers at halftime actually last year in the playoffs but still ended up going from playoffs to 9 and eight it’s just it feels like they pushed him out and they want a new era yeah they left him for Dead with after after they left Russell Wilson it is he

Makes it to the playoffs and then this year they’re a game away from the playoffs he still clearly wants to coach that’s why I don’t understand why he would just I mean I guess if you don’t want it to be messy just accept like hey

I’m gonna move like look at his ties in La like I I would imagine like Chargers wouldn’t bring in Pete Caroll for a head coaching interview like I just I don’t understand why if he does still want to coach and he was kind of being competitive about wanting that and

Wanting to do that why he would just be like okay actually you’re right I’ll just step into this kind of senior advisor role and just be okay with that like that that just doesn’t make any sense Pete Carroll being available to coach right now around the NFL and then

You look at Harbaugh right is he’s hired an NFL agent he has a successful record and then Bill bich he’s looking and inable why not not a great time to be a free agent coach right now I don’t think or a guy on these Legends out a guy that

Finished you know 500 or less but nobody was talking about their team getting fired or them getting fired hey you go home party’s on right we got another year getting contract hold on hold the phone Bears fans uh there a lot of Bears fans not happy about uh them keeping flu

And all these guys being available it’s loud right now for the Chicago Bears could that change could that happen though honestly really wants Bill could someone fire their coach that’s that’s there right now so the thing about it is I wish zto was here we miss zto

Congrats but like Chicago Bears fans I understand that they’re getting upset potentially about you know Eber flu being the guy and uh everything like that towards the end of the season it felt like his culture finally set in they played well yeah it felt like especially defensively since he took

Over when alen Williams you know got run out of the building and he took over defensively finished anyways his culture we’ve had enough that’s on me that is on me I went rogue I’m sorry his culture though seemingly started hitting for sure going you know so it’s

Like for the Bears fans I assume they’re a little bit like finally do we go for the Justin Fields Fields finally is going they move on from gets it’s like what do we what do we do here there’s a couple teams there’s probably multiple team fan bases around there that feel

The same way thank God not the Indianapolis Colts yeah by the way uh you said we got got the next bill bich and change thk we should just stop doing any of the next bill bich for anybody for anybody that isn’t to to you that’s just in general you’re right you’re

Right as it was coming out of my mouth I thought it was a little disrespectful I know as it was coming out of my mouth mcdc there it is there it is disrespectful not on this thing and he can be a different iteration Mike Tom was the next bill B okay see listen

Here’s the deal we what are you saying what are you talking about just what’s that mean what do you mean uh how long was he there 24 years y okay so we got five Super Bowls coming in the next the next eight six years yeah you’re right okay so possibly maybe with

The Pittsburgh Steelers Steelers Mason Rudolph bro uhuh yeah Mason Rudolph have you seen them what you talk what are you laughing at Chuck Mason Rudolph ended Pete Carol Chuck don’t laugh why is everybody being so big I don’t like what they’re doing to Pete I don’t it’s just

Not right good Mr Rogers that’s all he was talking yesterday I’m like there he is is who’s going to chew gum the neighborhood coach that’s what I think he’s doing every morning exactly and then he show videos of him running with those Air Maxes and chewing his gun we competing

Today no look they got the basketball hoop in the team meeting everybody’s buying in will frell’s coming in out of nowhere and then you talk about people it’s like when you get there the culture is just different you know it’s just different it’s that’s just what people

Say and he’s he appreciated he actually shout out Bobby Wagner multiple times he was like Bobby thank you for reminding us always to have fun and also you’re the reason why the culture was able to maintain because you guys bought into some of the stuff that some people

Probably wouldn’t have with me as the coach like I think he was they they call Jim Harbaugh quirky if you’re I think Pete Carroll probably behind the scenes was viewed vastly different than how most coaches is he was very here we go here we go every single day it’s like I

Would have loved to been in that building go ahead AJ sorry cutting you off there but credit to him in his in his press or two saying oh I I competed no I wanted this job like some other guys would try to protect their ego maybe and act like they were okay moving

On or it’s a mutual type thing but Pete that’s always been his thing I know they want to compete in every single thing they do and they have fun while they’re doing it but for Pete to even say that in that presser I give him credit because some guys wouldn’t do that Bobby

Wagner just text me I think we’re probably gonna have him on at some point today to chitchat a little bit more about the PE Carol culture joining us now to chitchat about massive names being you know amicably departed from two teams sure at a very very high level is a four-time NFL MVP

In a man who is a Super Bowl champion ladies and gentlemen the last human that bill bich talked to on the field as the New England Patriots head coach Aaron Rogers Aaron how you doing pal can you guys see me yeah you look fantastic you look great clearer than whenever you usually call us from wherever actually okay good yeah because I’m out here in the woods so I’m I’m glad I can’t see you guys so this is perfect all right BL

You look great you need to know that you’re out in the woods obviously doing your offseason stuff activities activities Ventures uh is that a good way to describe it that the offseason has begun yes okay perfect uh I’m happy you take some time here to chitchat with us

Because obviously with Bill bich you were the last human that he talked to on the field as the New England Patriots head coach now we know that for sure whenever you think about them moving on Connor got emotional about Dynasty ending officially what are your thoughts on Bill bich leaving New England but

Definitely going to play somewhere or coach somewhere else is that what he said did he say he’s gonna definitely keep coaching I mean he’s a LIF yeah he seems like a lifer um it’s tough I mean you have not just bill but but Nick sa announced his

Retirement is that true as well yeah yeah yeah I’ve been kind of um you know insulated here from a lot of the internet internet’s a little spotty here um being out in the woods so it’s kind of nice but I did see that and and uh

It’s too bad you know it’s those are two iconic iconic coaches um I think in general when we play this game we love this game um there’s this idea about game changers and people who actually changed the game and in in in act there’s very few people who really move

The game forward players or coaches but when you’re talking about people who actually made a difference in the game and move the game forward and were Trailblazers and Game Changers Bill bich and Nick sain were those guys and Bill uh did things his own way and had a ton

Of success with it and people tried to copy it and couldn’t do it um I think that’s the greatest compliment you can give Bill besides the uh the respect of competing against him and that’s what I always try to give when I saw him you know one of my favorite things about

Bill is uh his love for the game whether he’s talking about the top 100 players or uh you know watching some of those segments or or whether it’s him and Bs on the field before week 18 ultimately meaningless as far as in the standings game about a 2019 game that happened at

MetLife and uh you know throwing a backside post route to Alan Lazard in the kind of a a torrential uh you know snow snowdown um was just the guy he is but but the my favorite my favorite story of my own interaction with Bill was we

Played him in in uh in 2018 and 2022 and both times he waited uh to make sure that he saw me after the game and I just thought that was one of the classiest things ever and and I have so much respect for him doing that 2018 I was

Having a conversation with h with Tom they beat us at their place and he waited and after you know because coaches a lot of times just go over shake the other coach’s hand sometimes there’s some words back and forth but go over shake the other coach’s hand and

Then they’re out right uh but Bill waited for me and and then in 2022 I actually was doing an interview on the field after we beat him uh in a game that went back and forth and Bill waited until my interview ended and I just thought that was one of the

Coolest classiest things ever I mean this is a absolute no-brainer Hall of Fame Game Changer guy who was a Trailblazer in the league and did things no one’s ever done before um arguably the greatest coach uh in NFL history uh and probably will have the record for

Wins If he if he wants to keep going uh in the near future and he waited for me to finish my you know my press conference or on the field interview to to say something nice so I have a Time respect for bill um and and Nick as well

I mean I I interview with Nick Savin uh in at Berkeley in 2005 when he was a head coach of Miami Dolphins and uh we obviously went our own ways after that and he had incredible success and I’ve enjoyed watching him on the show this

Year on your show um so uh kudos to to Nick on a Hall of Fame career and the amount of players young men that he’s impacted is exponential Bill love you man so much respect you Chang CH the game and continue to do that I know you

You will keep doing that so I don’t think it’s a retirement for Bill not sure about Nick I mean I feel like he’s a lifer too maybe he wants to go on a coaching or sorry TV and out of coaching and take some stress off or spend more

Time with his kids grandkids wife whatever it might be but um those the the game is better with his college or Pro when uh when those guys are in it hey thank you for taking time out of your Woods retreat that you’re on right now to give a little love to Bill bich

And Sabin as they move into a next chapter you’re the man mustache looks good too no Darkness here this is you can tell there’s a lot of light good books to actually read behind me so we’re not doing that Darkness thing anymore smart smart well I appreciate

You L get back to it we appreciate you ladies and gentlemen Aaron Rogers H what’s he doing in the woods bro what’s he doing on this I tried to reach I just he’s not allowed on the show he can’t come on the show I was told yeah

We must have called the wrong person Z’s not here fake yeah that was the whole thing deep fake is that clone deep fake they got clone clone Ai No it is um you know he found it to be pretty important too you know like because he has a lot

Of respect for Bill oh yeah wanted to pay you know his respects to Bill bich obviously now that it’s taking place I’ve learned that a lot with a lot of the people that I’ve kind of chatted with here as the day roll on because this gets dropped in a morning and it’s

Like heads up now we know some of us know that like Aaron was this is what off Seasons look like for everyone football ends okay this is what this is what where’s he at uh Central America Hungry Like the travel he talks about his love of travel right

Yeah but it’s not just travel too it’s just like hey I I don’t I don’t know what phone is free scaling face of a clip it’s like does it like you know he out by those cool crystals last last year yeah I mean there’s a lot of that I

Mean there’s a lot of everything we’ve heard the story Enlightenment all the time right Enlightenment Awakening Bingo and he’s on a constant Pursuit seemingly whenever the season ends that’s like that that’s his thing so yesterday I’m just getting absolutely crushed I’m like how do I explain to all these humans

That like Aaron Rogers has an offseason two he like enjoys doing and this is how this is always kind of gone with Aaron Rogers Tuesday when his football’s over normally he’s got now last year a little different cuz the whole situation that was kind of taking place but it’s like

That was wild we’re were getting absolutely killed they’re like it you turned your back on a it’s like do you know how many things I’ve been through with Aaron Rogers just in our short relationship it’s like yeah I was not pumped to be in the middle of any of

That we all have friends that put us in situations where we’re like did we have to mhm did did we did you have I’ve been that guy this one’s this one’s a bit unique yeah unique situation feels like yeah it’s like okay so you know today

Whenever and he’s at the I he don’t explain anymore he had to go up a uh he had to go up a hill pretty much you gotta find some servic ah anyways a lot of people paying respect to Bill bich and Nick sain oh we didn’t ask him about Pete Carol there he

Probably doesn’t even know no he does he does doesn’t he’ll be shocked by that as well about Braes does he know about Braes oh that’s a whole another was yeah we talked about that on did nobody really picked that up no by the way none of those clips got

Picked up but us explained to him that Pete Caroll also would have been a mindblower there that’s on me bad host and E flu stay well think he know yeah okay he was he was actually clamoring to know about that one so Chuck that is uh

Let’s let’s get back to that now that we got a chance to kind of hear from a guy who’s also first bot Hall talking about another guy who the first pallot Hall of Famer who happen to have a lot of respect for each other that’s weird how

Some people don’t for either but the two that are at the top seemingly have all the respect in the world how about that think about how humbling that had to feel for Aaron Rogers that bill bich is just waiting off camera multiple times too like multiple times just to say a

Little just a little yeah it that would feel awesome no matter who you are yeah uncomfortable too like you need to hey can you wrap it up what we uh we done Aaron probably felt so uncomfortable absolutely like hey Bill bich yeah he’s sitting right here before the game too

He’s got to negotiate a contract Scout a player draw a play or strategize for next week that’s a fantastic thing that’s a lot of respect obviously and I’m thankful that he got a chance to run up a hill find some service Nice Guy where is he where is he

He’s in the woods you know more than I do I mean there’s Woods all over the place I don’t know tell him to drop a pin the way his hair looked um if I could just dive in it looked as though he was wearing a beanie so I don’t know

How warm temperature he was at probably big foot hunting I bet yeah there’s a CH I mean legitimately there’s a chance so uh thankful to hear that let’s go to that Chicago job though with Eber flu because they’re not the only ones Chuck and you mentioned that if you’re a coach

Who was like 500 or near there you’re starting to wonder oh my God does my ownership love me as much what’s a reality of a situation because when Tom Brady left New England I was on a microphone much smaller at the time on the internet saying everybody’s gonna

Want Tom Brady in the building when Tom Brady comes in the building your equipment managers get better your chefs get better your athletic trainers get better literally everybody in the building gets better let’s not even talk about sales ads ticketing everything merch everything gets better when you bring Tom Brady in the building

Allegedly that was not the Viewpoint of everybody in the NFL allegedly his Market was not as big as some of us thought it was going to be now we’ve heard the commander said they are not interested in Bill belich sure correct which is awesome to think about not

Interested this is just like when Atlanta was not interested in Lamar Jackson and we’re all like why that makes no sense but speaking of Atlanta allegedly Atlanta very in on Bill bich are these teams that are coming out publicly uh do you think it’s true do

You think it’s accurate and why do you think we’re kind of hearing these names so quick yeah I don’t know why you’d come out and say you’re not why would you what what what good does that do so this might be Dan Snyder trying to you

Know kind of no it could be a ploy to it could be gamesmanship I wouldn’t put that past anybody but but it could be him trying to sabotage the new ownership’s view with the fans proba like saying hey I’ve heard that they’re not interested until from Magic Johnson

Or Josh Harris I don’t think I’m going to take it serious but I don’t know why you would want to be public with saying n we are not in on this entire that part makes no sense but when you’re talking about like Jerry and like with the

Falcons with Arthur Blank do you think part of it is like like you mentioned like these guys are older like we don’t want to go hire an unproven head coach who it might take five or six years to kind of get his culture in place get his

Vision set up it’s like by that time like who knows if I’m still going to be around am I still going to be alive like I want to take the last couple years when I’m sound of mind and like can actually enjoy this and I want a guy who

Can come in and win year one like he belich che’s the kind of guy who could do that if you if you give him enough resources and things like that like you don’t have to go back to the start of the line and have some wonderin OC like

Who’s going to have to take his bumps and bruises I thought it could be the commander just being very very self-aware and being like Bill’s not coming here if Bill wants to get that wooding record he’s not coming here we Sam how Sam H can throw it but is either

The quarterback the he rebuilt the Patriots we don’t want to put on him we have too much respect for Bill bich to be like and then they can say they can say when they hire their guy that’s the guy that we always wanted like they

Don’t have to be like oh we lost out on bill bich so we had to hire this second guy you know what I mean maybe that was them being like Bill’s not coming here that’s a hilarious thought AJ um Chicago uh where else let’s see obviously Las Vegas is locked in with

Anten Pierce Amy Strunk though here’s Amy Strunk talking about why she didn’t trade Mike Vel uh as opposed to just firing Mike vrael uh in a sitdown interview with Tennessee Titans media there’s been discussion in a lot of different circles about the possibility of trading the head coach great question

Was consideration given to trading Mike Vel well yes there was but there’s a bit of misconception about a coach’s contract say versus a player’s contract a coach’s contract you can’t trade them unless they’re a willing partner to that trade so yes we thought about it but at

The end of the day with league rules the way they are it would have maybe put us back three weeks and you know honestly to to get the right head coach I was just not willing to to go to the back of the line and take a chance of missing

Out on someone we we really wanted well so she could be at the front of the line here yeah right with Bill bich now the thought of not wanting to deal with a trade situation which is very standard in NFL practices and will be in the future of her existence of being an

Owner of a team and having to take place what if they or what if like Carolina with teer you know like I feel like everybody’s kind of linking them to the chargers chargers have a chance to go maybe the Cowboys a big Mike can’t win

Which is crazy he’s been 12 and five the last three seasons but some of these owners feel desperate don’t they and this would be an immediate legitimacy move if they made it AJ absolutely what do you mean I think every owner is desperate I mean look at Listen to Jerry

Jones talk about winning another Super Bowl and what he like how bad he wants that I think every owner they’re all super competitive as well there’s a reason they’re billionaires I mean some of them inherited the money but they’ve kept it going and they’re still they run

The team or whatever but you want to win everybody wants to win and I think the owner the top dog it wants to win and probably at all cost so who knows yeah it would be very tough to go back now and try to fire your staff after the

Whole thing is already kind of happened but I don’t ites it would not Shock me if it did happen somewhere no salary cap for coaches remember whatever you know what I mean hey this a’t on you but such and such just happened to come available we love you I just and also your

Contract we’ll pay it yeah we get it making 12 a year whatever sweet we’re giving this guy 35 million a year he’s our GM and our head coach so sorry many sorry P not as many guys are getting interviewed these days why wouldn’t you just as an if you’ve got you don’t call

It put a line the world and just bring in a bellich bring in Pete Carol if they want to talk to you and just do some fishing around just to pick their well they do that though that’s an interesting thing like Will Bill bellich go no that was my next Point like he’s

Going to have a checkl okay I’m going to talk to a b and c or A and B how about congratulations yeah yeah you have been selected as a team that I will interview with I will see you at this time at this place n Tucket need you to come to the

House need a good presentation like KD whenever he avilable I mean what a time for him now that’s not the only coaching vacancy where obviously there’s massive chatter the Sabin retirement out of nowhere seemingly became a Hot Topic in conversation of the college football World immediately names were being

Tossed out who’s next who’s next Who’s Next well this guy was the name they were tracking his plane right they were watching his movements they were checking his team schedule this dude was the head coach of Alabama before anybody even asked him ladies and gentlemen the head coach at Oregon Dan

Lanning how are you coach what’s up Pat doing good how are you guys doing hey fantastic you crushed it this weekend I think you got to go to your left your left no yep one oh yeah it’s delayed there we go I got you Bo is that your

Right or your left though just so I know for future reference it’s my left you did it right you did it right come I feel pretty good about that coach I think you did it right too we just watched the video that you released on

Your ex uh uh uh on your Twitter oh X account I said X there first I didn’t even say Twitter that was phenomenal but anyways you walk into the team meeting and you talk about commitments and goals and loyalty you say there’s a lot of starters there not a lot of finishers

And then the next thing was if you’re worried about your coach leaving come to us and you basically said I’m staying at Oregon we literally had this conversation at the game day desk this past last weekend and I think Herby brought it up Herby was like hey they’re

Saying whenever saving goes you’re the next guy you’re the next guy you went we were in the middle of a 35 second commercial break you went into an immediate pitch of why you’re not leaving Oregon like why you love Oregon why Oregon is a place you can accomplish absolutely everything in your family

Loves Oregon I assume that went into this whole decision- making process and the decision was made before you even offered the job and why do you think everybody automatically put you in there coach well I think you know getting your name put in the conversation speaks to what

We’re doing right here right now but yeah this decision has been made for me since I took this job you know I love what we have here I love the support the administration I have I mean we we’ve got the things built to where we could

Be that that team and um we just got to continue to take you know steps in that direction to get where we want to be go ahead AJ so I guess with all the stuff going on when people say they’re tracking your playe they say you started

Team meeting late and all that how much do you pay attention to all that and like we know this going to happen every year with you and I it’s a great compliment I think to great coaches that they’re going to get you know obviously offered other places how do you kind of

Quiet that down and how do you deal with it especially with recruiting it was a distraction last night my my 13-year-old son kayen we just started watching the B Jason Bourne movie on Jason and my phone’s blowing up and it’s like Dad it says it says you’re

In tuscal loose right now he like we’re watching Jason Bourne focus on the movie put your phone on do not disturb so it interrupted what we were we were in on last night but uh yeah we got great players that were we’re looking to sign all that became a distraction for sure

You got players on our team reaching out and they know where I’m at 10 toes down okay so 10 toes down in Oregon how come you got a chance to explain a little bit at the game day set but like what are the things that have to you have to see

For you to be like yeah this is my spot because a lot of coaches especially with Alabama with the facilities and the resources and the history tradition sec warm weather right warm weather you know organ up there you know yeah it’s way up far away beautiful it’s beautiful yeah

You’re right it is beautiful it was beautiful when I was up there but it’s far away from where a lot of recruits are and everything how come Oregon is a place that you can’t get pulled away from why is that when I think of Oregon I think of innovation and we all know

That college football is changing like crazy right now um and we’re ahead of the curve you know we’ve got a plan we’ve got great support if there’s something I need I can go ask for it and you know a lot of things that a lot of coaches are driven by that’s not really

My motivation it’s one thing can we win can we win at a high level can can we compete for championships and that that ability exists here you know I think we have a program can be the best in the nation as long as I keep this thing on

Track coach shavin talked about how he was going to hire you as defense coordinator for Alabama but Kirby had gotten a hold of you either a day or two days before you were going to he was going to make the official offer you coached under Sabin now that he’s

Retired what do you think about whenever you think about Nick saving the goat man I actually like on my phone I have a voicemail saved of the very first time Nick ever called me you call it pops up on your phone you know unknown caller you know no caller ID so

I didn’t answer it was the greatest thing I ever did because now I have a voice message on my phone for the rest of my life when I was a a DB coach at Sam Houston State you know that popped up so I have that saved as something I

Still cherish you know working for Nick that was the most influential career you know year year of my uh career I got to work work with Nick Kirby Lane Mario Mel Tucker Billy Napier I mean it was an All-Star staff um of people that I got

To be associated with I felt like I got my doctorate in college football that year okay coach Pagano has a question for you coach hey coach good to see you congratulations on all your success there I’m really uh glad to see that you’re staying um just going through the

Recruiting process and talking to the families and all that stuff I I can’t imagine how difficult that would be standing up in front of them and saying hey I’m here I’m here I’m here and then all of a sudden you’re out you’re out the door but if the NFL there’s eight

Jobs open right now if the NFL were to come calling is that something that may not happen this year but looking down the road is that something that you’ve got in the back of your mind 10 15 years yeah I you know I used to dream of

Coaching the NFL I grew I’m from Kansas City I grew up a big Kansas City Chiefs fan but I’ll tell you this there’s nobody else in the nation that I want to coach the Chiefs other than Andy Reid um so he’s got to keep killing it that guy

Solves problems I’m cheering for Andy every week Pat Mahomes Travis Kelce I mean the Chiefs got to keep winning but uh I love where I’m at you know I think that’s really clear this is where I want to be what’ you play you play D5 football out of high school what’ you

Play niia yeah n AI some of you don’t even know what that means but it just means I love football yeah that’s what that means this guy’s washing his own pads washing his own clothes just wants to play football continue to play football and that passion radiates

Through you whenever you speak to your team and to us in the media we love what you have built in Oregon Ty has a question for you about the future yeah coach when everyone used to talk about college football it was always the SEC you know kind of being uh Head and

Shoulders above everyone else but Michigan obviously just wins the national championship and then all the top end teams from the Pack 12 are now coming to the Big 10 was that also like a big part of the decision is that you know like you’re going to play in one of

If not the best conferences in all of college football football and just like a side note to that I am an Iowa Alum so I’m just curious like are you already losing sleep over the thought of having to come play at K in the winter or how does that

Go yeah no absolutely all those things uh just get me more excited about what we’re doing here you know this place has Direction a sense of direction we’re joining one of the best if not the best conference in uh college football like you said and watching that game the

Other night it lets you know what you’re about to be playing against so I when I was a ga at pit we went and played at Iowa and I love that experience I mean it’s just a special place you know we ended up losing that game in the fourth

Quarter um when I was a pit but I remember like hey that’s their NFL team uh it was really you know impressive the support they have there okay future is bright not only for Oregon but for the Big 10 and obviously for Dan Lanning we appreciate you man what’s next for you

What’s the football schedule what do we got next we’re on the recruiting board this afternoon 2025 here we come who we getting who we get what do we what do we need what do we got where are we going because con actually has a question for you yeah coach one of the things

Throughout throughout the offseason for you guys at least so far has been Dante Moore and Dylan Gabriel both coming to town a lot of people are surprised by that what was the decision behind that just because of the fact that you know like hey this isn’t just a one-year

Thing you need to look a few years ahead you know competition is the secret and uh those are guys that want to come compete want to be you know the best version of themselves and they know they can do it here I think they’ve they see

What I see in this place and we want to go get great players and one thing we tell our players when they come like the minute you get here we’re going to try to bring better and continue to bring better and that’s how you get the best

Out of yourselves so we want competitors you know those guys are both great competitors great quarterbacks and uh we’re going to have a bunch of them on this team that can make us great okay well good luck moving forward good luck on the recruiting Trail you love it

Seemingly which is what you have to do I guess to be a great college football coach to have your name recruit or die man okay respect go ahead good luck out there ladies and gentlemen head coach of the Oregon Ducks Dy yeah [Applause] all right his name he was the Alabama

Crimson tied head football coach delivered it was already it was like decided done and then um it’s been very cool to get to know some of these guys you know so I got a message from him late night and I’d been putting my phone down a lot lately smart sure I like stay

Away from this thing you know this phone’s telling me a lot of things that aren’t good about me just so if I just don’t open it stupid phone never says don’t exist it’s not easy whenever you have to run a show though with a lot of stuff happening you know you have to

Kind of keep up with it all but I got a message from him last night that I didn’t see until this morning that was like Hey for your show I’m not going to Bama okay just can you tell somebody like pretty much that was like how his messaging was and then I started

Thinking about what his life had to be because recruiting this is all you need is just one little legit and all a sudden oh is that right okay I’m going here and that player goes on to be three-time allamerican greatest player of all time that’s difference between winning a big 10 championship and

Potentially competing in the playoff 2 not having a job anymore there that’s why that college football lifestyle is one that Nick Sabin talked about like the way we’ve set up our College schedule is not the best lifestyle NFL has a better lifestyle now than what we

Have it’s all year round in one little distraction can affect the next 10 15 years he said recruit or die at the end there and I I wanted to be like so how many Alabama players if you call today well that shador Sanders has already put

Out a bird call like hey Alabama guys go ahead and tap in I think they have a 30-day period where they’re allowed to transfer uh if your coach retires so we’re going to see I mean I don’t know that’s why sav’s in the building today yeah exactly how many guys are just

Going to be hey at least he’s still here sav’s in the building today hopefully trying to keep his own guys recruit I assume they’re going to hire from probably should what did you how about that whole staff I don’t know I assume they all get jobs because they worked at Alabama but

I don’t know what they do going forward you know AJ what are you about to say I mean they get yeah they get jobs but yeah I wonder if they sounds like they didn’t know CU didn’t didn’t they say Savin was on the phone an hour before he

Told told like the coaches that he was he was retiring like recruiting or talking to somebody I like the thought of Sabin and wink marale down on the beach in Florida just being like this is a lot better man yeah any of that loving this any of that what are you gonna do

Yeah I’m just going to tell him it’s all good and I’m just going to say I don’t want to work anymore okay and then what are you going to do I’m retire yeah all right yeah all right handshake hop on blades so Aon retires

You know CU he was in Florida we saw him whenever we talked to him he was down in Florida that is obviously a time of reflection after the season ends him and Miss Terry having a time down there just chitchatting about like what do the next

12 months look like do we do we want to reinvest everything because he did this year right people are saying greatest coaching job that he’s had the development in which that team showcase throughout the year after the early loss the resilience the toughness all the way

To make it to losing to the national champions obviously the Michigan Wolverines congrats to are great football great Jim Harbaugh still up in the air we don’t know what’s going to happen there but for Sabin I assume that’s what he did right like for you whenever you knew it was probably over

And done what was it you just examined what life is going to be like if you wanted to sign up for this again is that what took place yeah and it was a after Co you know so that took the wind out of everybody’s sales just took the fun out

Of you know but now let’s say if you’re saving you’re thinking ahead to the ne what you’re signing up for if you go back to coach them and then you’re just thinking to yourself life could be much better than what I’m sure he’s got it well planned out he’s been very

Organized for a long long time and detailed so I’m sure he’s Chuck wasn’t it tough though Chuck I’m sorry to cut you off with players they talk about players transitioning I would imagine if you coach for this many years transitioning to the real world has to be difficult no matter what your age

It’s so freaking because you’ve been a part of a team for your whole life and when you don’t have that team like you’ve given that back to me being part of your team and I’m very very grateful for that but when I was done AJ to your to

Your hey me too team on three one two three team yeah so that was and I drove my wife crazy you got to have a plan you got to have something to do you got to have your next life’s work and uh and that’s why I mean this was a Lifeline

For me so I can’t imagine CU those guys are football lifers so there’s no way like Pete saving you know bich I don’t think Pete had any idea like you can’t f Bill probably bill is still in football for sure Sabin though you would assume he has something is what you’re saying

That there had to be something that is going to Peak his interest peak his um intellect too like he’s going to have to feel challenged like you can’t just go to a point where it’s like oh I’m just moping around accomplishing nothing either like that he can go on he can go

On a speaking circuit like I mean he’s already done it they’ll be lined up for miles to get him to come in and talk to their organization they’re building about leadership team building or all that kind of stuff he can do that but don’t you think there’s got to be some

Type of succession plan to where like he he made that decision he obviously loves and cares about all those players and all those coaches right so there’s got to be some kind of plan in place to where the majority of that thing if not everybody’s going to be able to stay you

Would hope right but in the modern college football yeah yeah I mean different is bananas b a n a n a that is college football right now I think spell banana he number one car salesman at one of his dealerships next year you think he’s going to be moving

Some Ferraris yeah 9 to five car how many of those are you selling and aren’t those selling themselves cuz like people are looking to buy Ferraris are just finding places that have them and buying that seems like the smartest car dealership to own actually by far cuz

You’re not like competing like if you’re looking to buy a Ferrari okay I’m buying a Ferrari or a Lamborghini today okay sell me you don’t really have to right no it’s just normally humans who have an absurd amount of cash or need to get rid of an absurd amount of cash buying those

Things they’re searching for that might be the perfect place to be a car sales man but you’re right because if someone walks in you’re selling a car it’s not like you’re upselling someone from like a tourist to you sure you don’t want to buy a Lambo or Ferrari instead like it’s

Not working like that I got massive respect for the car sales but I got a chance to experience that one Summer with the deal family from deal Automotive the them living and dying with every car that comes in yeah into the lot a wild everybody’s like oh these

Car salesmen you know me they dirty you’re trying to rip us off it’s like I don’t know if they’re trying to rip you off but I do know they are certainly trying to make a sale they are they are living and dying with all of that the

Fact that he has that business I’m assuming he has other Investments his resume is where it’s at probably got pretty easy for him and Miss Terry to come to a conclusion of like all right let’s move on a lot of people have been calling for this all year for sure soon

As he decided to come on our show I think it was like week two they even done he ain’t doing this never thought it I never thought it you know I told you now coach is Coach man I didn’t think it was going to happen and then

Every week every week when he sat there like this you know and he had like the game plan oh yeah Tennessee this big this thick over here it’s like that guy is still and before we go live every once in a while we’d see him walking about his office or whatever

It was always like on task there was always standing up as we were finishing the interviews he was always standing up because he knows he’s getting to his next thing I got something thank you this over it here obviously now I got to do this we got a game plan for this what

Happens if we get into a fourth and 31 well got to have Gravedigger obviously let’s draw that one up it’s like it never ends dude it never ends for those types of dudes that’s why we’re lucky 36e coach Chuck M’s in the building on this day hell yeah Chuck on this day and

As we wrap up here on ESPN uh with a few moments left obviously we can’t say enough about how honored we are to be live when this is happening crazy like the bich craft press conference is is one that’s going to be you know that’s going to be shown forever that’s going

To be in documentaries and dynasties it’s going to be shown probably NFL Hall of Fame somewhere it’s going to be remembered and then shortly thereafter it was us and conman representing pretty much New England Patriots fans today was a cool day even though kind of sucked for the history of football for sure

That a lot of change was kind of made but today was a very cool day Conor yeah it is cool and like it is nice going back through the bill era and even the people who were calling for him to be fired I think even those people are are

Going back through it like damn we really did have it made in the shade and I love what Bill said like hearing him talk candidly I don’t think I’ve ever seen Bill get emotional about anything let alone the fans so stuff like that is really cool and like it is it is still

Exciting as a Patriots fan it’s a it’s a new chapter in the book but it it has been one of those days that I’ll always remember one for waking up and seeing that bill bich is fire but also the part of it that you know it was a hell of a

Run and it was great to live through it and Reminiscing on it will be fun forever AJ Pete Carol um I don’t we only have two minutes if we were just to call Bobby Wagner right now that’d be hey Bob real quick rude but the third hour

Pretty packed he said he’s watching let me Pete wants a job it sounds like yeah certainly it’s called Bob go to college give him a college gig he’s got the juice K Baba I okay hey we’re live we’re live we’re live we’re live what up what up what up we’re live

Is that all right yeah yeah we’re good okay so we only got like two minutes too but we wanted to get like your words because you were called out by him like numerous times in the press conference why did you and Pete Carol get along so

Much and what did he mean to basically your career up there in Seattle Bobby uh what up fellas Bobby I’m glad to be on the show n Pete um you know when we got to when I left from college to come to the NFL all

I heard was how serious the game was how um you know not fun the game was and so when I got there and I was uh playing with Pete and he starts to meeting off shooting basketballs and and all that stuff I’m like man there’s no way this

Is the real NFL and um his culture and what he meant to everybody and how much he cared about his players and I mean I’m pretty sure y saw in the press conference like like he really cares about the players and their wellbeing um far beyond football and I think that was

What everybody loved about him well Bobby we appreciate the hell out of you pal let’s have you on next week appreciations stay less I’m my man appreciate you Bobby see you okay so everything we thought about Pete Carroll in his relationship with his players was just legitimized by a man that played

There for a long time and Bobby Wagner incredible success out there Pete and then you think about Sabin Sabin won seven national championships most by any coach in the a PO AP poll debuted in 1936 uh Alabama won at least 10 games in each of sabin’s final 16 Seasons the

Longest streak by any program in the AP poll era Sabin has had 49 players drafted in the first round W 44 of them at Alabama in 17 Seasons at Alabama Nick won six national titles and only lost five games by 14 points or more okay and

13 of the last 15 National Title winners were either Alabama or a team that beat Alabama so Jes man that is a pretty dominant performance by those three men hell yeah we appreciate your contributions excited to see what happens next we will transition to ESPN plus and YouTube while Sports Center

Continues to cover a massive day in the history of the biggest league on Earth AJ today was sweet today was awesome today is historic historic Bittersweet day though at the same time it is but every new beginning comes from some other Beginnings end true we’ll see you tomorrow

Goodbye nice yeah that that almost that was talk that was division one that felt pretty that was a division one out right there that one felt that one felt pretty solid it was perfect okay I’m happy to hear that with the clock and the sign yeah obviously had that

Prepared since the show began yeah should we watch that that that’s how I was going to sign off with this entire I had that prepared oh yeah right here wrote it all down sure make sure you hit this right at the end of this entire thing um let’s get to a break Robert

Craft will be having a press conference at about 2:00 we will be streaming that live if it starts before we come back we will just run that and then we will kind of catch up as it either gets dull or slows down then Ian Rapaport will be

Joining us nice oh okay nice all right wait is the Insiders isn’t on right now or whatever so it is on right now but in the 2 o’cl hour he’s free remember Ian Rapaport former Insider in New England uh before he became Insider at NFL Network so his ties Run Deep in New

England excited to hear what his thoughts are be a friend tell a friend something nice it might change your life take fiveish oh let me tell you a little story about these statistics Troy palalo okay Troy palalo so we had a fake for the Pittsburgh Steelers that was a 100er we didn’t even

Have a cancel the goddamn play because it was 100er if we ever end up in this situation inside the seven yard line on the left hash it is a 100er that the sea Gap will be wide open and we will just part the sea to the left it’ll be a

Touchdown 100er we’re playing in Pittsburgh the city I grew up in I grew up in Pittsburgh I won the punt passing kick National Championship AJ National Championship AJ congrats AJ did you ever win the national championship pump passing kick uh I think I got third or fourth out of four at the Nationals

I’m proud of you man anyways so we’re there in that Stadium okay a lot of mcafe in there a lot of macaes in Pittsburgh I’m gonna score my first touchdown night game Sunday Night Football I believe it was right here touchdown we get into that situation and I’m like holy this is

Really going to happen we’re like on the six on the left hash it’s Fourth and goal now Phi go team’s jogging on I’m like oh it’s about to I’m this is I got to I’m ready I am ready for this to happen so I get out there I get down Vinnie’s

Like happy for me Vinnie’s like very excited he’s like let’s go like Vinnie’s excited for me at this moment I’m like here we go so I make the call I forget what it was so I start saying it right and everybody’s looking at me like okay Bright Eyes here we go let’s get

After it offensive linemen are dead ass tired they do not want to be in the middle of a field goal anyways so they’re just like all right I don’t give a if you die here but this should work let’s get some points and all of a

Sudden I go through my Cadence I call it I get down and Troy pool his ass goes ahead for however long his career was at this point I think it was like N9 years or eight years at this point not a once has he ever gone to this side of the field

Over here to the left and covered strand stood right in the seag Gap never he lined up exactly where he had lined in film 100% of the time and then as soon as I got to like the second Cadence right before set he just bounced his

Little ass right over to the seag Gap and I like stopped everything I was doing and I literally just looked at him and I gave him like a what the are you doing man like why are you there right now and then I stood up and said

We are kicking it we don’t have a we have to kick it we are kicking this and then I get down and vinary kicks it and I jog off the field and Chuck Pagano comes running up next to me he’s like hey good job what you see I said what I

See palamu just went right into the goddamn seag Gap what did I see what did I see and he goes okay sounds good good call then and good call then and then vinary is like hey way to go buddy I’m like way to go are we not going to talk uh for the

Organization and um you know the end of an era like I said that’ll be hard to be replicated um I think at least in my lifetime if ever um and you know I know you all made the effort to be here so I’d like to do whatever we can talking about Bill

And the time he spent here the future I know there’ll be a lot of questions about the future and we’ll have a chance to cover that in the next few days but um I’m not sure today is the time to do it so we’ll do a press postgame press

Conference raise your hand we’ll try to pass a mic to you go we’ll start with Mike Reese Robert in in speaking about Bill you you reference him as the greatest of all time and you said that’s part of what made this such a hard decision but

That you both felt it was the best decision why did you feel it was the right decision well the last three years have been pretty tough and I know uh for our dedicated fans and myself and you know in life I just learn things happen and um our

Family is the custodian of this asset the New England Patriots and we know how important it is to the psyche of the community and what’s gone on here the last 3 four years isn’t what we want so we have a responsibility to do what we

Can to fix it to the best of our Ability Robert uh there’s been a narrative out there for years that people say it was all Tom Brady you know when it comes to what happened on the field with this football team how much in your eyes was it Tom Brady and Bill bellich when it comes to everything

That’s been accomplished over the last 24 seasons you know it’s it’s not the first time I’ve heard that question but you know why I love the NFL and why I think it’s great for young people to play it it’s it’s a great lesson in life because I don’t think there’s anything

Else any other sport or any other experience that’s as much team based and Collective base as football um and I don’t think either one of those two would have accomplished what they accomplished if they weren’t together and it’s you know I think they’re both the best at their professions and you know

We were lucky to have them together for two decades Robert Bill mentioned earlier this week that he is under contract or he was under contract for next season did you give any consideration to trading him try to recoup some compensation for him yeah that’s an interesting question

As you know I’m fortunate um in our family our businesses are all all private and so we try to create a culture and develop an environment where people want to stay and stay long term and yeah I guess if you look at this as a transaction you know he he is so

Valuable and how we could extract something I I didn’t think that was right I didn’t think it was right for Tom Brady who gave us 20 years and I and I don’t think it’s right for bill that I think each of them earned the right to

Be in a position where they should do what’s right for us given what they have done for this franchise so some people might criticize me for not you know extracting as much value and I understand that but we we just try to do what we think is right for the proper

Values and ability to operate and try to get people who want to come and feel that we’re going to treat them fairly on left hey Robert um this being such an emotional day and seeing you and build together and the emotions that you guys shared it’s a

Celebration it makes you wonder do you have any reservations at all whether or not this is the right decision in any way Tom yeah that’s a good question um you know this is a results business and certain things in life it’s instinctual I think both of us felt that

The time was right for each of us to go off in our separate directions but you know what was really I mean you all know Bill you know Bill as well as I do well for him to say he’ll always be a patriot and you know it gives us I mean it’s great

And you know the last few days since Monday since we’ve been thinking about it and talking about it I think our relationship went to a new place because you know this is very hard any of you who are in in it’s like a marriage and things don’t always go great and you

Know you get through the difficult times and it makes the relationship stronger and I think we had a chance to do that over the last almost quarter of a century so I think both of us felt that at this point in time it was in our mutual

Interest to each go our own way but knowing that we have that Bond and Foundation that’s really hard in this business to create very hard anyhow anyhow hi Robert on Monday Bill spoke about the possibility of relinquishing some of his duties in the Personnel Department how much consider

Ation did you give to retaining bill but maybe adjusting his role good question yeah we’ve thought about that but you know I’ve had experience running different businesses and trying to develop a team and think about it when you have someone like Bill who’s had control over every

Decision every coach we hire hire every the organization reports to him on the draft and how much money we spend or what we every decision has been his and uh we’ve always supported him to then take some of that power away and give it to someone else accountability is important to me

In every one of our companies and where he had the responsibility and then someone else takes it it’s going to set up um confusion and you know well it was his pick and that was a bad pick you know or he didn’t play him right or you know it

Just it wouldn’t work in my opinion all right as Robert Craft ATT continue continues to talk to the media we will monitor to see if anything is said or if any actual breaking news comes from said press conference not an easy decision for Robert Craft the owner

Of the Patriots obviously has had a successful last 24 years even though the recent memory not fantastic they’ve done something to the Patriots organization that hadn’t been able to be done before craft and bellich entered those doors that’s AJ Hawk the talking table is here at Tai Schmid at Boston Conor whenever

He talked there at the end you said exactly to something what did he say to cut you all I was saying exactly to what you said cuz that’s the guy or the woman asked him you know the consideration of Bill relinquishing some GM duties which they talked about or at least it was

Reported they talked about and exactly what you said about the whole situation like not just bill relinquishing the GM but more so like it’s been 24 years of the same thing so for that to change going into year 25 just hit a reset button 24 years in that’s easy in the

Same building easy I think it makes more sense now thinking about it like that versus thinking about like hey belich che’s gone is like like Bill wants to continue to do what he’s always done for 24 years and the fact that he entertained the idea of changing that

Just a little with something but Bob Craft saying like that’s not right for for Bill or for the Patriots like it it shouldn’t happen there’s too much respect for what bill is as a GM and a coach just to be like okay we’re going to take away half of what you’ve done

Like it just doesn’t make any sense and that’s what you echoed this week and basically since this conversation I just trying to think about the the humans you know invol in the entire thing and how you could potentially give a little something on the other side and then

Take a little bit there and I like that craft explains that publicly I like that he he talks about how you know Bill bich is not just like Madden general manager Madden coach exactly he like you know we’ll just take away this role should up his energy because he should be able to

Sleep and do less work in this particular one where he was maybe an 84 now he’s a 91 and we just do that it’s like this human has to walk in there and this human also has to see every decision that is made by new GM yeah and

Like oh great every time GM disagreeing with him oh great yeah you know how many Super Bowls have you all right sweet draft picks like could you imagine if Bill loves a guy and then the GM’s like yeah but what about what if he what if

They choose a GM that isn’t the one that he wants oh my God just like the Vel situation down there in Tennessee allegedly so where he goes does he have to be is it okay because it’s a different organization yeah I think it’s a reset you know this is how it’s always

Been like you just think about human though think all the decisions you have to make let’s say a GM comes in and you talk to anybody that played in the Patriots they said bill has his hand in every single thing the snacks that are out in the lunchroom everything he has

What if a new GM comes in say they have a game overseas and Bill wants to leave on Thursday the GM’s like no we need to be there all week we’re going Monday how does he handle that’s not happening yeah let on who’s working out for the team like whenever injuries happen midseason

It’s like why is this guy on my field trades this guy doesn’t deserve all of it would be impossible one half of the hammer Cowboys Town digs is here 36y year coach 18 in college 18 in the pros Chuck Pagano is here Chuck Chuck it’s been a

Perfect day to have you here as all the coaching chaos has been taking place is how Adam schfer described it senior NFL insiders are having a field day I would assume during this week joining us now is a man who used to be an Insider in

The New England area now he’s a daily show host wow ladies and gentlemen Ian Rapaport baby hey wowow oh my what’s up guys look at it look at it how’s it been being a daily show host you crushing it over there uh we are crushing it it’s something you know I

Always respected what you guys did having to bring it every single day for three hours um and we have to bring it for a little less time and a little we were you know I see you wear sleeves now we all wear sleeves and not nice stuff

But like semi nice it’s tough man it is challenging out there I respect what you guys do even more than I did when I used to appear on this show on a regular basis yeah well we always hold you near and dear in our hearts and uh my dad was

A truck driver my uncle firefighter I don’t think anybody’s ever going to feel any empathy for having talk every single day but uh I do agree and I do appreciate the sentiment and I’ve heard you guys have been Slaughter oh yeah keep it going we absolutely love

It I can confirm okay we app apprciate aren’t I the source of that yes Bingo you were the one that leaked that you guys are doing great which is not a bad little play not a bad little play and then that gets aggregated rewarded game of telephone happens and then boom it it

Gets to us now and every time we hear about you it’s always good how’s the family how’s the family family good how’s the family family’s good they um they’re doing great they’re you know they’re still in school they we haven’t sent them away they’re in the house

Almost every day I didn’t know if there was like a winter Wonderland for like three four months it’s got to be something well you know I’m kicking them out of the house tomorrow to go skiing while I sit here and you know do the hard manual labor that I’m doing for a

Living so they’re going to go and my wife is going too I’m kicking her out also um gez but they’re going to go they’re going to go play and I’m going to stay here and work which is challenging but I’ll tell you this they miss you guys they saw you guys when

They were in the airport in Atlanta took a picture of was like what there’s Pat I’m like yep not not AJ though well tell them who well a lot of a stuff this week tell them we miss him tell everybody we say hello hey rap sheets we do hey rap

Sheets whole F now you’re working this week but that is not the norm for the rap sheet family we have to remind people if there’s any anything to be done that is manual labor it is most certainly Leah who is Ian’s wife that has taking care of everything y we have

Followed along closely with this thing we have been embarrassed for Ian numerous times but that’s just how they operate and when they go to Harry Potter World or whatever Ian leads the way there he does of course hero when they go to legol land Ian’s crushing it absolutely but if they need anything

Done at the house Le is handling worried if it snows these next couple days all right let’s talk about your job your hard manual labor that you do for that family so that they can go to 9mon getaway trips in the woods in the cabins in canot wait for that yeah seems like

You have a countdown you and the wife probably uh you did a lot of time in New England obviously before you became uh NFL Network senior NFL Insider what do you think about today how long do you think this has been brewing and how many people knew that this was going to take

Place on the day that it took place cuz it seemingly came out of nowhere this morning uh I think I think a couple people knew like inside well I’ll start with the the last part first inside the building they were kind of starting preparations like we heard about this I

Would say yesterday afternoon that like something was going on today and they were probably going to have a press conference or something and then it’s like what is it he’s staying they’re not going to have a press conference so then he’s obviously leaving which you know

Kind of felt I felt on Monday after the belich craft discussions that bich che’s thought was basically like I can’t get there like we can’t get to a point where this makes sense that we’re both going to run it back right like like you guys

I thought before I got on on before I got on here hit it pretty well some of the half measures that were being discussed like you know and even I tried to convince myself with this over the last couple weeks like none of that in reality made sense a clean break

Probably made the most sense so you could sort of feel this building and then I think by by last night it was obvious everyone was moving on then it was just this morning making sure like that today was going to be the day um and I I felt weirdly sentimental like I

Spent three years there Conor cried Conor got tear Conor cried been there sorry he did he and you know Bill did too when he was talking to the fans yeah yes he did I actually so the fans cried and and Bill cried and like that you

Know it’s amazing so one of the weird things that happens when you are a daily beat writer of a of a coach is not only do you start to kind of like talking like them like when I covered Alabama you start saying like I like Nick Sabin and you start explaining things like

Bill belich when you cover him on a daily basis and like these guys take over your lives right and like we do football as much as we do bill bellich has had a major part of my life like major and so I am you know I knew this

Was going to come at some point kind of thought it might be this year but I it is surreal I think they did the right thing I thought that moment of those two guys standing at the podium was you know I didn’t you never know how something

With bill belich is going to end thing these things do not always end great that ended perfectly I thought well it was a celebration they both told us that go ahead AJ uh Ian so do you have any any insight on who the Patriots May hire

To be the head coach and also where Bill could go and second part of that do you take anything from Craft giving uh belich two one arm hugs and Bill never extended an arm really he just kind of took the hug with it’s like one quarter

Of a hug a full he do know how to he doesn’t know how to so two he knows how to but first of all belich is he has a cold so I think he didn’t want to spread the cold did mention that so I thought that was moments as a Patriots coach one

Of the nicer things you could do is like someone hugs you and you’re like whoa whoa I have a cold you don’t want this okay you don’t want you don’t want right what I got you don’t want um I actually looked at the body language of the hug

And what I didn’t see was a pullback like bich okay he didn’t go in but he didn’t pull out either it was more like you want the hug pull finish in there what are you guys saying said it you say didn’t pull out just left that thing in there and said

Let’s Roll the D they both answered you said neutral neutral um so yes so I I did notice the hug kind um so the other thing where does where do the Patriots go from here they have a really really good in-house candidate in gerad mayo and look this year was weird in the

Building for the Patriots I just you know it’s never perfect and I think it kind of was odd having the air parent literally there in the building while belich is also there knowing that his clock is ticking and there’s Mayo kind of like poised to take over you know to

Me having Mayo there and having Mayo take over makes a lot of sense he knows the program he played for Billy coach for Bill he is extremely smart players like him needs to find a quarterback and fix the offensive side of the ball but the defense was balling that M now Vel

Makes sense too but like I’ve always thought that the crafts viewed Mayo as the next guy so to me like they’ll you know they’ll do a thing but like that makes sense as far as where Bill lands is harder to me because like if he wants Personnel control which as craft said he

Has earned then it’s like most of the places have a GM I don’t I would be surprised if he was with the Chargers the Panthers make some sense they don’t have a GM and I know terer looked into belich last year that makes Atlanta potentially too but I think those places

Would be kind of one to one watch okay on that particular front Connor has a question for you yeah rap obviously those are teams without head coaches and some of them without GMS are there any teams now though that you know maybe re-evaluate who they have currently

Anybody who had you know maybe a down year or year that kind of dropped off after having success last year a the Giants who you know they were also looking into Bill allegedly in the past will those teams kind of think about like hey if we can get Pete Caroll or

Obviously bill bich or even you know one of these other guys Vel if you will will those teams re-evaluate too and then we might see a a little more movement from elsewhere yeah the well first of all the Pete Carol thing was interesting because he you know sort of gets moved to side

Or moved upstairs or whatever and then says he really wants to coach and I’m like you do like I don’t I mean I don’t look I think he’s awesome so that would be okay if he wanted to but he’s also under contract so like now that’s a team

That could theoretically trade for a coach if somebody wanted um but so I looked at the kind of landscape today I took a little look and I thought in my brain of like who would fire their coach for bich and I haven’t really found anyone just yet and some of the places

That I was wondering like would they make a move the Bears the Saints they all seem to be moving forward and sticking you know now could there be a team in the playoffs could there be a team that you know would be widely discussed as a potential spot for belich

Who has in the past had some tough playoff performances and a coach that no matter how good he does is always perpetually Under Fire could they move on if belich is sitting there potentially okay so there’s a lot of potential potential potential tone has a question for you yeah you kind of

You kind of we know you were talking about the Cowboys there Ian is there any well kind of is there don’t forget we know you is there any 12 and five last three years Mich damn good is there any other let’s just keep the Cowboys out of

It is there any other Playoff teams um that if they have a bad showing uh that their coach could potentially be a change there I I don’t see one now this is always you know this is always bad because you say this and then someone goes out and does something crazy um I

Would be surprised if any of the playoff teams end up moving on for their coach like now the playoff situations can change things I remember last year Chargers were riding high they go down down you know lose a huge lead to the Jaguars and I’m waking up the next

Morning going like are the Chargers going to make a change and I think you know I think they did consider it ended up sticking and probably should have moved on but you know maybe the games will dictate if something horrific happens and that all tends to get

Magnified but I don’t see right now one of those places Ty has a question for you rap yeah rap sheet you mentioned Seattle and the stuff with Pete Carol I think we all kind of felt the same seems like he definitely still wants to coach so that whole Situation’s weird but then

They were talking about Dan Quinn being a a likely replacement in in Seattle How likely is that to happen and also does that make Jerry’s decision to get a guy like Bill potentially easier if Dan Quinn leaves does he go ahead and just you know barring whatever the Cowboys

Doing the playoffs fire McCarthy and then let Bill bring his own staff in well I think first of all the relationship between Jerry Jones and Bill bich is a really good one right so this would not be like if you know I’m not saying anything’s going to happen

Because I really do think McCarthy stays but if something does happen there’s a long history there with with bellich and Jerry Jones as far as the Dan Quinn thing you know when he I’m not gonna say when he removed himself from consideration last year I don’t want to get into what we just

Talked about when he physically removed himself from being uh coach candidate last year my thought was always he’s waiting for Seattle now he’s going to have options this year he is a really strong candidate in a year where I think there’s some good coaches out there but maybe the resumés aren’t what they’ve

Always been like there’ll be some you know some teams taking a little bit of a risk Dan Quinn is not a risk he’s been to the Super Bowl he’s a really good coach I think Seattle you know that I think there’s some mutual interest and that would make sense that’s always

Seemed like the logical thing and culture is so important there you wouldn’t have to teach anything like he gets it he knows it he lived it I think that one you know some dot connecting but that one would work for me feels like a perfect handoff the Pete Carrol

Situation is alarming though I don’t think any of us knew that he was potentially going to get yeah I mean if you would asked me earlier that day I would have said look it’s kind of weird there and obviously it’s up to Jody Allen but I think I think he stays

Because like I thought all those conversations you would have said that no way you were what was weird there what was weird throughout the season uh well no during so I would say the last two weeks of the season when I tried to get answers on whether or not

Pete was staying the answers didn’t come because it was always like well it depends on what jod Allen thinks and you know some of the owners I do know her I do not and you can’t it’s to get inside the mind of the one person who’s making

The decision is what makes this time of year so hard so I thought it was going to be okay but I was always like maybe the rebuild hasn’t come fast enough and maybe she thinks the team under achieved which obviously is what she thought now I don’t think they did underachieve I

Thought they were regular um but that’s why these decisions are so challenging because it’s literally one person going this just wasn’t good enough yeah Robert Craft said in his press conference that he’s hoping to get find a person that’ll get him back to the playoffs and sustain success obviously that’s what he’s

Looking for so the failures is why this started happening and remember Robert CRA was telling everybody even on the sideline of the Germany game whenever he was interviewed like I’ve never experienced this before I’ve never experienced this before as an owner it was those types of things that I think

Peak all of our interest like maybe this is the end now that we’re officially here it’s obviously weird there’s a couple other places though that names keep popping up a little bit yeah rapy what’s the deal with the smoke in Philly there’s been a couple different reports

Where it’s like ni Nick serani keep an eye he might not be that safe and obviously now there’s you know words about Jaylen Herz not being able to throw a football all week so that doesn’t bode well for them in the playoffs and then why hasn’t in anonio

Pierce been hired by the the Raiders yet that felt like the easiest layup of all time this off season now second question first they have not completed their Dei requirements and they have not completed the interview process now they could theoretically do it right if they interview two people of color who are

Not currently employed by NFL teams in person they could theoretically hire Antonio Pierce they have done I think they’ve done one either had done one or are doing one and they would need another to fulfill that I don’t know that that is shut and done yet I do

Believe he’s got a strong chance to get the job and like if he doesn’t I don’t know what else honestly I don’t know what else you need to do um but I would say that’s you know that’s probably a good question as far as serani I get Philly I’m not from Philly

But I do have some Kindred Spirits there in Philly my good buddy Mike ero was a Philly guy and sometimes he’ll call me up and just yell and I’m like oh that’s what Philly’s like a little bit so I get The Angst um he has won 11 games he literally went

To Super Bowl last year he is not going anywhere and the thought that he did he that he could is so wild to me like I know some teams have moved on from coaches that won like 14 games and all those teams end up regretting it you

Have a good coach who’s capable of wi winning consistently don’t let that guy go and I don’t think Philly will you got to figure out the coordinator situation quick though that’s going to have to be something that’s going to be tasked with going for yeah I I would say at least

Defense we’ll see about offense as well yeah maybe another year in the system will’ll make it work Jaylen though the knee the ankle now the finger he’s had a much different year this year than last year football Gods haven’t been as nice to him this year as they were last year

That’ll all get back to normal big Dom dcastro will be back on the sideline oh yeah yeah big yeah yeah have you what’s their record without him not good not one five not good and honestly forget about the coordinator change maybe it’s a domm situation yeah yeah I know you haven’t

Been on the program in a while that is obviously what we’ve been pushing as you could probably guess that is our entire angle in this entire thing as it should be yeah Bingo yeah and there’s a chance you know and this was kind of something floated in in this particular World

We’re not allowed to float anything but no we will float this a Michigan man who won a national championship said what if Dom dcastro had some Connor Stallions in him o what if Dom de Castro on the sideline is a security guy but also like cover three

Like what if he smart guy makes sense what if he’s been a weapon on the sideline D Ernie Adams yeah and he’s just been hidden under like the look at this big Italian he’s a security doofus like that’s that’s what they say but on a sideline no no Maestro it’s covered too

Oh can he do his thing from like a box or something whatever his thing is Boots 10 toes down present 10 toes down it’s right boots on the ground needs to have it you think he’s up in a booth with us no way that’s Big D go ahead AJ what

About Jim Harbaugh does he have any interviews set up like it seemed like it was a no-brainer he was coming to the NFL now there’s a ton of guys out there that want jobs in the NFL some Legends where does Hardball kind of fall in you be another one um so the national

Championship run is kind of a whirlwind and it seems like he’s just kind of like decompressing from that now the weird thing about the cycle and for those of us who you know do this on a daily basis it is a grind and tiring not quite like

Driving a truck or a real job or manual labor but it is a little bit of gr or the military obviously thousand other things construction teaching brick laying Landscaping makeing pizzas smoking Meats smoking Meats Barbe porn we did we did some Meats this past week yeah you’re right um anyway hard

Ball um hard ball no lot of these hires are going to happen in a couple weeks you can’t even interview a person employed by an NFL team in person until the 22nd so there’s no rush but looking around for harball and I’m not saying like I think there’s a real chance that

He gets a job I just haven’t found it yet and I think that’s one of the hard things is like we all know what a good coach is and if he is in the NFL I do think he would win he is really really talented and awkward and uncomfortable

And very talented whoa um H I just don’t know where like I know people talk about the Raiders I haven’t sensed that I haven’t you know the Chargers I think could be interested that would be potentially one I haven’t seen any other places so like yes I think it would make

Sense I just don’t know where it would be after getting to talk to him personally in a big-time journalism sit down I I saw that was good thank thank you how you’re so busy yeah well I actually had a WRA aort evening the night before you know oh yeah Colts

Texans game then we had to fly Houston we did some more rap reporting y then we got to the lobby ran into Stanford Steve and a few others did some more rap reporting obviously and then went to bed for 30 45 minutes or so yeah Miss Gumpy

In the lobby oh yeah and then headed forgot about forgot yeah gy ditched him sh when you when you roll in there are they looking at you like no because I I didn’t get like I was just up I wasn’t like I would have like one beer for like

An hour you know it wasn’t like I I wasn’t really rap ating I guess one4 Rapaport yeah it was like uhbe one six you know how they have like the the lawn MOS oh yeah how there’s the rabbit and then there’s the turtle so that’s a

Rapaport long yeah I was on Turtle okay the thing about Rapaport is he’s always on the ride he’s breaking that thing going past the always he’s actually lifting up the side thing so he can go faster cuz whenever bounes and there’s another hard job you know for sure

Yeah so anyway when you walk in they weren’t like no no no you kind of played it off well I took a good shower you know what I mean I took a good shower everybody it was it uncomfortable no like you know no it’s only uncomfortable if you make it uncomfortable you know

What I mean it’s only awkward if you make it awkward that’s my first time being in like one of those really nice rooms the good news was ree Davis Kind of sat the tone cuz ree Davis talked to him first what are you reading R rap what’s going on what’s going

Uh some of your people are reacting on my Instagram that I am on the show which hi people um nobody wanted you back from what I heard yeah yeah all year I I don’t read the internet so I wouldn’t know you want to hear my most awkward

Jim Harbaugh story well I just want to let you know there was a sign at one of the places we went yeah we want rap sheet back it’s like we’ll tell him to stop doing a Daily Show burn that sign bro you tell him to suck at his daily

Shows I actually have that in my I actually have that in my garage which I thought was nice that was my brother was holding it so that was cool okay that makes sense now that we think about it what is your Hardball story um I was at

A uh one of those coaches breakfast they have at the league meeting you know where like you sit down you don’t really eat breakfast but you’re at a breakfast table then you interview all the different coaches right really comfortable set yeah like it’s the one where you’ve seen the the meme of belich

Drinking the orange juice like that same thing so Harbaugh sits down and he’s got black coffee in front of and it’s literally just me him and one other reporter and it hasn’t really started yet I’m early and he sits down he looks at the coffee he shakes his head he goes

Up he gets cold water he pours the water into the Hot Coffee Co it down looks at it and nods to the coffee puts the water down and starts drinking it and I’ve never seen that way to drink coffee ever in my life it was too hot he wanted to

Cool it down you dilute the coffee if you put water it makes no sense he care he cared about getting that thing down way too it’s burning my tongy trying to CH yeah that’s all he was he looked at that saw the smoke and was like I’m not

Doing that that dog won’t hunt he said I need that coffee now yeah exactly can’t drink that I got to take a Sho for 20 minutes I used to dck ice cubes into it I used to dump ice cubes in to straight up shot no it messes up

The ratio unless you get one of those coffee ice cubes those are a little extra but those those are good H those are kind of cool some gives a rat’s ass about the taste is that Harbaugh was worried about the barista’s feelings of the coffee taste at that particular

Moment hell no obviously not he just got done with a half a tin of dip just woke up he’s trying to find a little juice so he can give you the best answer possible speaking of best answer possible you might be able to deliver this Chuck has

A question for you about the cycle hey so Ian the obvious names are coming up uh on the interview list for these guys you know the two coordinators in Detroit Ben Johnson Aaron Glenn uh Mike McDonald the DC over in Baltimore are there any Dark Horses um that are coming up like a

You know you look at the job Jim Schwarz has done he’s been you know a head coach in the league before job he’s done in Cleveland are there any dark horse names we should be looking for Joe Barry yeah um I’ll tell you an interesting one Anthony Weaver oh he is the defensive

Line coach and associate head coach for the Ravens and you know the kind of guy you know if you watch the Ravens their defensive line plays absolutely insanely hard and are also awesome and he’s one of the reasons why and like obviously there’s a lot more to being a head coach

But he is a real a real leader and you know you guys love Dan Campbell on the show it seems like the Dan Campbell effect has kind of permeated these coaching searches we like I think there’s going to be more kind of like leader of men we like that right this is

Good news yes I mean I think so like I don’t know what makes a good head coach or not but it’s to me it’s never been about like who’s the best play caller like who cares helps like like it doesn’t matter like lead the people right and like Raheem Morris is another

One like I think he’s got a pretty good chance Aaron Glenn another I think really good chance this year those guys come out and are head coaches just because of the kind of leadership they can exhibit Steve wils just interviewed right with Atlanta or Atlanta requested

For going to yeah when’s the what’s the schedule now when are they going to interview didn’t they change that this year yeah so they can do don’t think so you’re you’re devastated by that Chang so long it just takes so oh my God no I’m not I am all say that in all

Serious I am for what they are trying to do I want this process to be more diverse and slower and I think it’ll lead to better more diverse candidates all this is good from a selfish standpoint okay go get to Mobile and you get to the Super Bowl and there’s still

Searches going on and like you know that’s been like a month like do we need do I need to be frantically calling my good buddy Tom this guy’s working so hard Manas year you know oh my God there’s good golf courses and booze everywhere there you gonna play out there you gonna

Play when you’re out there for the Super Bowl uh I hope so I played that course of the win that was kind of weird but kind of cool hopefully I’ll get to play at least one round sometimes I got to work is the only thing but see if I can

Sneak it in are you guys hosting that show through Super Bowl or when when is this going forever or what’s going on um I believe there will be a Super Bowl at least a Super Bowl show but I’m not positive and then I think I think it’s

Through the Super Bowl and that’s it that is my thought but I don’t I don’t truly know hell of a run I mean middle of March insiders would be awesome that’s when we need you middle of may you know that’s middle of May is those are when I

Would come on here and you’d be like can you stop playing golf and get us some news to which I would say more Golf and then you would went to what Harry Potter Museum he did the Pez Museum it was good yeah the Pez Museum people are lining up

To go there oh yeah love that place I mean Pez Museum is I want to go back just so I Get Buckets of Pez I’ll tell you what’s amazing since we’ve been apart okay my kids have moved on from Harry Potter wow are now into Percy Jackson and Rubik’s Cubes kids these

Days are crazy Rubik’s Cub is a little too advanced person can they figure it out can they figure it out they can do it Jude Jude can do it in less than 20 seconds Jude the dude dude prove it Max Max Max can do it in about a minute

30 can you can you take that can you not only can I not okay they are annoyed like Jude cannot believe that I can’t do it like how could you not embarrassed by you he’s doing it in less than 20 seconds be tough to tell him anything for the

What say did they teach him at summer camp how to do it because I don’t I don’t know that many people that can do it me neither no he went there was a app like a gocube app that like kind of mimics the and like teaches you the

Algorithms sweet and he got into it and he learns it and he is he is all over it you ever seen those The Talented ones five seconds that’s hor though using an app to do it oh wait there you go t you oh yeah oh yeah I don’t know if I can

Still do it but I’m definitely wait can you do it theck Dr just drop D down D down second second who is that you zo yes Ian this would be great this would be a good little indicator yeah here we go who do you think that fun pop

Is oh that would be Dale erard right wow it okay holy hell what a moment that could have been that could have been I was hoping for it going to be like you know one like you know leis Hamilton or one of the F1 but you know no not one of

Those doors the same thing but it’s just different my God how many steps forward and then Sprint backwards how’d you end up doing that you made yourself look terrible you knew who Dale was let’s move along yeah now you bring in F1 this Mickey M no

Offense even a lot of people a lot of people this F1 I can’t believe you just did what you just did right there sack one’s great sa I gotta get to a race that makes sense you know I lived in Alabama for three years and never went

To Talladega once come on you know I do believe that yeah makes sense yeah I do believe that actually all right rap anything we need to know from your world uh over the next few days days what’s next eight head coaching POS oh foxy has a question for you sorry Ian any update

On Sam leapor for the Lions this weekend need it sorry foxy yes Sam leor he’s got hyperextended knee and a bone bruise so it’s basically the same thing that Travis Kelce had at the beginning the year and played and was like kind of limited seems to be a long shot we

Should be finding out soon I would be surprised if he plays but if that’s the case where he is now I would say if they Advance probably as a shot next week I mean this draft class by the Lions is pretty filthy oh yeah he’s a big piece

Do you remember the reaction as was happening what the hell everybody saying it’s bad that’s funny I mean to all to all to all the picks I think right like Pi a linebacker in the first round and like a running back early and all those guys are

Killing it absolutely just like you pal are you uh in As Good you look good look like you’re in good shape end of year right that’s accurate appreciate it yeah I’m you know I’m on the Pelon grind which is good needs to be bike treadmill bike bike yeah what’s your

Handle what’s your hand handle you want that SM it’s rapet lower case all lower case uh it’s the r is uppercase and then the S is uppercase um I don’t follow anyone but if you follow me I will follow you back you’ll be my one a date

Nice you guys are riding together what’s your name Chucky p on there what’s your name on her Chucky meatballs Chuck strong Chuck strong rap sheet guys riding together do you do Jess sims’s classes uh no but the kids do she does like a she does like a family pelaton

And they do that and she’s great I try to I try to give some songs just some ideas before a game day production meeting goes smart I’m always like suggest you’re yelling at these people yeah I’m like have you heard this one I start playing songs they’re trying to

Start the meeting I’m like Banger who’s your favorite instructor excuse me no you’re all right I’m cool with that uh I do a lot of the British people Ben Alis Leanne Hanby Samuel aren’t you on there too Ben Alis is a dog Aldis yep yeah what are you riding a bike oh yeah

With Ben Aldis oh yeah can you do a little Ben for us he’s big on you know like going into the music all right pelaton in three two one let’s go and then he’s former DJ so he’s oh yeah he’s got the Moxy I want to do that I want to

Take that class I want to take that class as well no Ben people are great I love that yeah he’s the man and uring the is he yelling at you is what what’s Happ cuz I don’t like being yelled at at this stage like cuz I everyone loved

Alex tousant he was like the the big guy I was like I don’t need this guy yelling at me the whole time that that’s why I go with TUC okay so you’re a Tucson guy cuz you need a little Direction and discipline and yell B I

Don’t I don’t that at this stage of my life I’m okay I don’t need somebody yelling me on a screen I’m paying for but you yeah Ben oldis like maybe like 15 minutes in 30 minutes in 45 minutes in he’ll be like come on peleton let’s

Go and that’s that’s really all it is and then it’s just the music carrying Samuel from Sam Yo’s English too isn’t he Sam I don’t mess with anybody but Ben Aldis holy you Ben Al yeah got your guy I don’t like I I agree like I don’t need anybody yelling at me literally

Ever so like like and that’s one like they got a good vibe there so it’s all like pretty encouraging they used to have at the beginning they had people who would kind of get after you and I think now it’s gone more toward like good Positive Vibes you know Al love I

Like to hear Al love very positive I like I like to hear that I’m gonna get on Ben alus yeah he’s the he’s a man how about at the end when I need a little extra boost what’s Ben Alis saying there take me home almost done it 10 n eight

Seven come on Paton 6 come on five five four three almost there two one cool down cool down he’s the man I feel like I just did a class I appreciate in my mind I was working out that’s enough for me today rap it was great seeing you again power

You still smoking meats or no uh yeah oh yeah we had uh so we didn’t do smoking we did some grilling last week we had spinalis which is like which is like a ribeye cap which is kind of rare which was amazing and then we did a wagu bone in ribey that’s

Definitely not how toce that’s definitely you don’t have to you don’t have to say every letter in the word I don’t think the Wu no I think that’s how it is Wu right yeah Wu only you got it I can’t even say no no he’s got it yeah I like some wag you

You got it it was could hear that through the mic no that was off air I promise you it was I don’t know I think it might have went through my ear I thought it yeah someone H anyways we appreciate with your wag you uh you’re a

Daily show host you deserve it all we appreciate you ladies and gentlemen rap we miss you rap sheet good to see you hold on is he still there he’s off all right call him back no next time what were you gonna ask him I was just

Going to bring up how like you know I want the bat for him to come on the show yeah and then and then he signed on for do a Daily Show at the exact time of our show and then our fans story say yeah you didn’t change the sh you didn’t sell

Out but where’s rap sheet rap sheet how come you didn’t say yeah I I appreciate you going to bat for that to happen and then me just kind of leaving you for dead a lot of that it’s been great where’s his show NFL plus is that what

It is sure NFL plus I think also NFL Network I don’t know how many hours are on what there was an exclusive time on NFL plus and then they went on to NFL Network then there was a time where they’re both on NFL Network I think and

Then it was May I don’t know I do not know but I do know I see the clips because obviously rap sheets plugged yeah and gar Fuller’s not happy he was Ser only out there huh is that what I heard is that what you heard over there

In Philadelphia Chuck as we look ahead to the games this weekend as we wrap up this glorious show and we don’t have Thursday Night Football obviously and big thanks to all of our guests today Rapaport Bobby Wagner Dan Lanning Aaron Rogers Rob Ninkovich Robert Craft Bill bich Tommy Curran all made appear

Albert beer was on there too oh yeah I did hear him introduce himself sorry Albert I’m sure you asked a great question um ree Davis sat down with with Nick Sabin and um wa today yeah like as we’re live so it was move the time frame was that’s

Why I was looking at my phone the time frame in which he was going to be speaking with him had moved a few different times so I think we’re going to try to get reys whenever he is done with that particular interview to join us he might have a Sports Center hit

Happening right now and then he will join us I’ll be excited to hear what he got from him yeah and I think there were some clips that yeah they’re showing Clips right now on sports center of the interview that he literally just recorded So it’s a nice sit down he he’s

Sitting in a chair Sab sitting a chair dark around lights you know what I mean oh yeah intimate is how they describe that ree Davis Alabama Alum so I think he’ll be free in like four minutes or so we’ll give him a call just kind of put a

Cap on this hisor big news Thursday that we’ve had but before that Chuck um you look at these super Wild Card Weekend games we got two on Saturday three on Sunday one on Monday I mean we got some magic here and you were great Thursday night football against the spread All

Season higher hit right there anybody on earth a baby Chu when you look at this game what are some of the games you’re looking at and what are you thinking about whenever you’re looking at them obviously the cold is going to play a factor in some games maybe some teams

Are hot some teams are cold what are you thinking about Chuck um that Cleveland Houston game’s interesting how come they just played a couple weeks ago week 16 Cleveland came away a winner U quarterback CJ Stout did not play in that game I think it was

3622 ball game so be interesting to see what uh see what transpires there I mean he’s as good a quarterback as there is the league right now you got something no no I was going to put the games back up there just in case you were trying to

See if you had anything for the other ones Buffalo was like 40 mph wins allegedly with the Pittsburgh Steelers going in there certainly a potential Advantage for both teams depending upon how you look at it right yeah no no doubt about it I just Buffalo yeah I can’t see Pittsburgh going into Buffalo

The role that they’re on right now and doing any good I I like Buffalo there I like Cleveland at Houston I think Green Bay can if Green Bay will go in there they’ve got two Runners Key’s Hill for Dallas is they’ve been you know a little

Susceptible to the run so if Green Bay goes in there and shortens a game and runs the football Jordan love moving around doing his thing playing as good as anybody in the league right now at quarterback position I mean they just if they fall behind a couple scores then

Then that plays right into Dallas hand but I think they we’re going to be smart enough to control the clock in that one could you imagine Green Bay goes in there to beat Dallas and then the conversation that’s happening immediately upon that game taking place

Is oh bill bich is the next head coach of the Dallas Cowboys I think that’s why it plays into the Packers favor like obviously it’s the playoffs all of these games are you know very stressful and like there’s going to be pressure but if they potenti

Like I mean it’s house money for the Packers Aaron Jones has rushed for over 100 yards in three consecutive games like he’s all the way back he’s playing unbelievable Jordan loves playing unbelievable it’ll ultimately just be whether or not their their defense can keep Dallas in check okay so you like

Cleveland you like Buffalo you seemingly like Green Bay to keep that one close scared to death about Rams going in there for the same reasons Fox foxy is I mean Matt Stafford right now with PUK and a Cooper cup in that offense and McVey I mean I I’d have a hard time

Betting against McVey and Stafford going going back there and I just think the defense for for Detroit in the back end they just they can’t cover these guys so jar if they don’t if they don’t generate some pass rush by pressure because it can’t be just one guy they’re going to

Take Hutch out of the game obviously they’re smart enough to do that right if they can’t generate a pass rush and they leave those DBS on island he’ll he’ll carve them up well so Jared Goff came out and spoke about how this isn’t a Revenge game for Shawn McVey he’s

Actually thankful for Shawn McVey here’s the clip right here can you just share just what are your your general feelings on sea mcy yeah Sean I are good he’s I think he’s a great coach I think he’s uh you know obviously we had our differences there at the end but um he’s

A great coach done a lot of great things and you know he’s a guy that uh taught me a lot motivation obviously speaks for itself this week but is there anything extra you know playing against against your old team your Old Coach no yeah I think no I mean obviously there’s a

Personal connection there and um there not just for me but for a lot of our players and some of theirs as well but um no I think you know I so badly want to win a game for this city and win a playoff game for this city that hasn’t

Had one in so long we had a home playoff game for the first time in so long and um that’s so much more important than um anything personally for me I I want to be a part of this win and uh do my job the best of my ability you going to love

Hearing that foxy but I would have appreciated a little bit of like yeah I hate CH you know I appreciate him taking high road and I assume behind closed doors his family his friends even mcdc potentially telling him how thankful he is that the Rams wanted to get rid of

Him and how thankful they are that they were the ones that chose to take on his contract at a moment where nobody knew if he still hadn’t how great he’s become but that certainly adds to the storyline of this entire thing I mean this is this is Cinema Matthew Stafford Jared Goff in

Detroit playoff game with where each of these teams were considered to be this is a masterpiece by the script writers 100% and that’s been golf this entire time for the last three years nothing but class he’s embraced the city he’s embraced the community he’s been awesome and I don’t think it’s been

Talked about enough especially this week it’s been all about Stafford Stafford Stafford Stafford rightfully so he won a Super Bowl he was there for 12 years and whatnot but this is a big game for golf golf probably wants this just as bad and I’m very excited and what I love about

This match I know coach is scared of the defense I’m scared of the defense Stafford will throw the pill all over the place but this is a Lions team that is unlike any team Stafford had in his 12 years because we can ground and pound

And it would be a beautiful way to win this one all right good luck this weekend good luck to all parties anything else on the Sunday Night Football or Monday Night Football games that Tampa one’s interesting to see I mean talk about limping in and now I

Don’t even know if he can grip a ball D AJ’s point they said he hasn’t thrown a football yet and he said it was a mistake to go back into the game with where he was did you see that though I mean and AJ Baker’s practicing with zins in

His pocket that that game’s over it is I’m sorry butr yeah but you’re in your emotions right now I am in my emotions but you know two teams right kind of one and five is how the Eagles finished we have uh we have a Graphic also uh actually that kind of

Where things were week 10 and where people are now who’s hot who’s cold and you can kind of get a feel for some of these teams and what they got going on if you just go back to week 10 like look at the bucks for instance four and five

Okay now they’re N9 and8 sneak it in but they’re doing their thing you look at the ners what they’ve been able to do you look at the Cowboys you look at the Ravens you look at the bills five and five then they end up 11- six you look

At the bronze they put in Joe flaca what happened 6 and three to 11 and it’s like some of these teams are getting hot at the right time the the Rams and look at the two bottom seeds in in the NFC the Rams and Packers were both three and six

Yeah that is uh nuts that is means you’re battle tested you know you’ve been through it you’re calloused you’ve had to win games you felt the pressure of a playoff game already this year you’ve already been through it numerous times we lose this week our mathematical

Uh equivalent to make it is uh like 2% or something like that but if we we win this week we’re up over 60% it’s like those are the Playoff like atmosphere games a lot of these teams have had them some of them have not how about Jacksonville oh buddy eight and three

They were what was it 96% playing for the one SE playing for the one seed and going to be in the right into the John they fired the whole staff down there too y all right well we’re excited for this weekend Chuck I feel like we

Got your picks there you know you didn’t have you do you feel as confident in those picks as you have in your Thursday Night Football picks all year yeah Cleveland Cleveland go ahead Denzel Ward got hurt in practice today so oh no I was just going to say because Denzel

Ward Emerson and uh uh who’s the other dback the number zero you got Ward Emerson and Nome so they got three guys that can play all can play tight man coverage with that front and that pressure that Schwarz he’s going to bring make it really hard on the one

Thing that strad struggled against was tight man thrown into those windows this season if you were going to pick him apart in any way it would be that so that’s that’s big right there KN yeah knee as well so he’s questionable right now boy that sucks blacko is uh for

Cleveland yeah and for your pick of Cleveland sounds like I was taking Cleveland because of that do you still stick with that yeah cuz FL Flaco and and Coupe I mean Coupe only had 265 yards Flo also going for the r and Jo and joku is like always open always he’s

Got five guys around open just and Flaco’s got this this connection with those two he don’t care you think the Browns can win this all can what win the whole thing I really believe if you look at the way this thing’s whole set this thing set up his flacko is going to be

In Baltimore championship game playing the Ravens we got Stafford we got Stafford in Detroit Flo potentially going back they got the number one defense in the league Cleveland does now this thing this sucks right here if he’s hurt her Denzel Ward that’s a that’s a huge blow you need pass rushers need

Cover Corners at this point at all points but now for certain before we move on how about CJ strad though being like just so perfect yeah just counting them out too yep well I’m not even talking about you counting them out Wild Card we’re in the playoffs I’m

Not saying just because you pick against him doesn’t mean anything but like he came on our show the other day everything he said was perfect I saw him he is yeah like like not corny not fake not like trying to be a movie character quarterback just like genuine the

guy exact it’s what you want like as a Patriots fan I talking a little bit Yeah I want to CJ strap handling it humility flexion I mean it was like perfect it was absolutely perfect all of it that head coach quarterback deal yeah between those two dudes perfect wow talk about hitting

Home run yeah congrats Don Houston now everybody’s going to have an obnoxious view on what it can be like whenever you go to the draft CJ stra was number two overall pick that’s who the Patriots are going to get no big deal we’ll be able to do that just like people have been

Thinking that what the New England Patriots did for so long is duplicable and then what people thought what Sabin has been able to do at Alabama it’s duplicable and it might be I mean maybe with this Georgia team but I think a lot of people assume that this is going to

Be an impossible feat especially in the modern college football with free agency taking place and temptations and how the schedule is I think it’s going to be tough to ever replicate the amount of success that Sabin had for as long as he did at the University of Alabama to join

Us now is a man that went to the University of Alabama is one of the voices of college football and just got out of a sitdown interview with Nick sain ladies and gentlemen host of college game day both football and basketball ree Davis how are you buddy what’s boys how we doing hey good I’ll stand so you don’t look uncomfortable and not the only person standing but Wy didn’t bring me a chair so stand it’s all right AJ woodand but the adct doesn’t have enough head space especially with the size of

Head that he has uh let’s dive in Rees we saw some of the clips on the TV here we haven’t got a chance to see them completely sit down interview you and sain face to face how long did you chat what did you chat about what’s the

Biggest takeaway if you just want to kind of give us a brief on what we’re potentially going to see I think we were we talk for 35 40 minutes somewhere in that neighborhood we visited a little bit before the uh before the interview started as well I think the biggest

Takeaway Pat was not really that much of a surprise in that this was extraordinarily difficult for him but sort of true to his standard the reason he said you know he said there are no health issues no health issues within the family other than the fact that this

Season took a little bit more out of him than normal in terms of energy and he wanted to make sure that he was able to go at a high standard new coaches potential new coaches coming in players wanted to know are you’re going to be there three years five years and he said

I couldn’t be honest about that anymore because I didn’t know and he felt like that that this was the right time yeah it had to be tough for him and Miss Terry they were down that Florida house we thought and he was potentially just looking out at the ocean just

Like this ain’t bad yeah no no did he talk about anything in the future did we did you lead into that what he’s thinking how will he get his football fixed that we assume every football human especially football lifer is going to need I think he’s really interested

In doing broadcasting and he did speak quite a bit about wanting to be an advocate for the good of the game and whether that was to help uh find some parameters you know he really emphasized that and really wanted it known the nil transfer portal stuff that did not chase

Him out of coaching I mean I think he managed that pretty well over the last few years but what he says is for it to be sustainable so that it’s good for the player that there needs to be some type of framework and if he can be involved

In any way in doing that he wants to continue to have a voice I think he said they were going to give him an office over at Bryant Denny Stadium he told the players uh and I’ll and you know me Pat I try to keep The Language clean but he

Said he told some of the players I can get on your ass from there just as easily as I can from here so you know he’s he’s still going to be involved and I look it’s no secret I think we know that he’s really interested in broadcasting because he’s really good at

It you guys see that every week when he joins you yeah we love him they’re talking about college football playoff our college football commissioner people are like Sabin needs to be the guy and if we if you listen to anything he said all year to us whenever we bring it up

It’s like he has ideas he has a passion to want to change it and fix it and I think all of his players would go on the record saying he’s always looked out for us even whenever he brought up the insurance policies for guys playing in

Bowl games and other things it’s like he would be the perfect human that I think has the resume that people would respect for him to be a potential one voice potential go the college football needs it we all recognize that who knows how it’s going to take place I appreciate

Him thinking about that go ahead AJ Reese did he uh did you guys talk about who uh might be coming in as the new Alabama football coach and does he have any say or does he want to set somebody up like did you guys get into that at

All not he didn’t go into that per se we talked a little bit about what the new coach might ask him about in terms of advice uh you know that’s I think a new coach would be a fool not to not not to at least reach out and and talk to him

Because he wants to be a resource and a sounding board for them the one thing that that struck me around it is that so many of the assistants said look whoever the new coach is they’ll put their own twist on it they’ll be their own man they’ll do their own personality but the

Infrastructure is so sound and the people understand here what it takes and how to work that there there will be uh there will be a great opportunity for the next coach to have great success and I think that’s what Nick said that he wanted for the next coach whoever that

Might be I think that you know he will offer advice and answer questions when asked and I’m certain that he will be asked and probably already has been and should be um you work for ESPN so you obviously have an SEC B we all know that yep of course secn right weit know

That’s what they say it’s have the ACC Network as well have many others but certainly SEC buys and you’re one of you’re the host of college game day so you have to be non-bias have to be okay you’re uh incredibly professional you always have been I feel like you shoot it straight regardless

Which is why we all have so much respect for you but as a human that did potentially graduate from the University of Alabama how’s the alumni how’s Alabama taking this how are the boosters taking this potential like how is the ripple effect pretty much around Bama

Right now with the loss of the greatest college coach of all time that you can feel or sense there I can’t tell you how many messages I’ve had from you know friends people that I know well that are Alabama alums there’s a lot of anxiety because they know they’re smart enough

To know that you’re not getting this again no matter who you hire this was this was the greatest Dynasty in the history of the sport uh whether you want to count championships whether you want to count consecutive 10 wins Seasons postseason success beating number one

Whatever it is you want to count by or if you just want to watch the play it’s the best Dynasty that has has ever existed in the sport so they realize that it’s almost impossible not to take some type of step back because I don’t think you’re going to see this type of

Dynasty again anywhere um but I think overall Pat there’s an overwhelming sense of gratitude from the alums because people were laughing at Alabama people said people got on national TV and radio and said ah they’re delusional they’ll never be what they think they’re supposed to be look at those crazy

People at the airport look at that crazy woman you know there to uh you know there to try to kiss Nick Sabin when he got off the plane in 2007 and even the most uh rabid fanatic could not have envisioned the success that he’s had over the last 17 years so I think

There’s I think there’s just an overwhelming sense of appreciation among almost all Al LS and fans same thing’s happening up in New England right now as well and let alone the Pete Carroll situation in Seattle in just a few days obviously man it hasn’t been around as

Long but like Vel as well it’s uh it’s a wild time for coaches it’s a wild time for ree Davis says he has another call we can’t thank you enough brother sorry about that I forgot to put it on do not disturb my bad no you always should be

Disturbed you’re the man that has all the answers we appreciate you ladies and gentlemen Reese Davis Rees love Reese dude the man so nice he awesome he’s great actually he is so nice when he came in here for the ESPN Red Zone so cool yeah the coolest hey what do you

What do you need like what do you need you give me just some some Diet Dr Pepper that was it you guys got mcallisters I’m like what do you what do you what do you mean just diet you just give me like six to 12 diet dror pepper

Cans fine it’ll be good you want these chilled or they can be room temperature tempure was all here hosted for 3 and a half hours after hosting game day all morning just plowed through some Diet Dr PE ordered us some food gu was a great guy that brain that brain solid solid

Very he’s also a guy who naturally says what when he speaks like instead of what he’s like he speaks like that really yeah it’s wild wild it’s why you think he wouldn’t do that I don’t know I think he’s just like classic I met a neighbor of his at one

Of the college game days okay and this guy sounded like water boy Cajun guy like with the southern RAC we know since I was like four five years live cross stre but this whole thing yeah yeah and the only thing I took away from that is like Reese probably sounded like this

at some point you know what I mean like if they grew up in the same area and I asked ree that he was like I I have a Southern accent but I do try to project words properly or I’m like all right ree but every once in a while you

Get him a little tired he’ll start slipping into that you can hear it yeah you can start hearing him slip into it he’s a machine from Alabama yeah yeah yeah you know what part the part where they talk like that I don’t know I met his neighbor that was

One of the greatest morning I was so tired and like uh yeah that was the second B one too I was I was very tired I was about to pass out there’s some of those game day mornings where I’m just chugging 5 Hour energies just like every

Hour which isn’t good trying to get 15 hours of energy exactly you know in three hours you’re not supposed to do that I don’t think you’re supposed to do that so immediately afterwards you know there is a bit of a uh almost uh yeah you know a little bit of a drop of

Energy or whatever and I’m on my way out and somebody St I forget it’s like uh Reese’s neighbor wants to meet you or whatever and I’m like I would like to meet Reese’s neighbor I assumed this was going to be some hello yeah like I was

Like yes I would like to meet I would like to ask questions about Reese offir just to learn some stuff like hey when he’s having some whiskey or Scotch gu scars like what some things like just so I can bring it up to Reese the next time

I see him I’m like ree heard you know what I mean drop one of those which is uh always trying to gather always trying to gather information you know for those types of moments and I go over and that was not the case it was complete opposite and I’m like this is awesome

Half a sleep is why aren’t you on game yeah we need to get you on a microphone immediately some of those Southern Accents sound better than ever we have some breaking news out of the NFL Jer Alexander had kind of a freak deal yesterday when he stepped on

Someone’s foot and rolled an ankle lefur said he’s considered day to-day that was during a jog through situation so you got ward in Cleveland who hurt his knee in practice yep and then you got Jer Alexander who seemingly hurt his ankle in a jog through freak deal I assume he

Was doing something awesome yeah my God somebody’s probably a little Don in their dumps in joh your what you do you know what I mean exactly and then he then he’s out of there now we got to worry about whether or not this defense

Is back to be in full he’ll be out there we need Jer Alexander in the super Wild Card Weekend absolutely yeah really need him this weekend he he played unbelievable last weekend gonna need him again the pack is back yeah awesome off the dude so good this guy’s the best AJ

This guy’s the absolute best he is the best but what’s also interesting to see I don’t know if they still do it but the Packers they used to vote for playoff captains that would be the C throughout the playoffs is he a playoff he better be yes right I hope so

If he goes out with a boot on can’t play got to see on no no pads right just a jersey over top of a hoodie Shad shades on probably beanie if I had to guess he goes out there and he’s talking by the way oh yeah I got this boys right

Defense put the defense out there jamus Winston the more I think about it just the better get even even cooler I forget who I was listening to talk uh there’s people pissed I’ve heard people that are pissed at Jame Jam Shan one cut Shan sharp one shanon cut him today it’s

Weird because he was taking care of his teammate at the same time but yes you’re disobeying the coach and all that but he was trying to take care of his guy I guess yeah it’s one of those things where jamus can definitely grand stand and say I’m a good teammate yeah it wasn’t

For him if he would if jamus would have snuck it in that would have been really that been awesome just real quick Converse Converse yeah you got $250,000 incentive you know something like that but then Dennis Allen you know Shannon sharp I think his point was like would

You ever see this in a bill bich or Andy Reid or any other place no never right and I guess that’s the same question that was asked about Jer Alexander electing himself captain and then going and speaking and potentially getting it wrong it’s like I don’t know if you can

Just necessarily say that like would Bill bich have a Jer Alexander in the building I think his reputation is said yes yeah but would Jer Alexander have to buy into the bill Bell I think their reputation in history says yes also yes absolutely but that is not like

Necessarily how laflor is known for running his operation or da is known for running his operation so I think it’s just like different cultures and I don’t and I think humans like jamus there’s not a lot of jamus out no not a lot of jamus out there I don’t necessarily you

Know need him on my team but I’m happy he is on a team like that to Contin you forever did that kid have a lot of Ares down there Williams Jamal Kamar Kamar was out for the beginning of the season um and then obviously when Kamar is back

Kamar gets you know the Lion Share but no I mean I mean 17 to no t zero I mean the biggest thing he did it out a victory right if he would have just put him in a formation but then James would probably said well probably wouldn’t

Have scored if I put him in eye formation y so jamus actually this is actually the best play call actually for you to a touchdown we need to fake the Neil M you know Dan Marino pton Manning yep they’ve all faked the spike we need to fake the

Victory Neil at the one yard line here hey do you think those offensive linemen were there a couple like talking to like Atlanta s we’re coming we’re coming your cells boys we’re coming we’re coming we’re coming cuz on the outside you saw some guys that weren’t in yeah on decision

You know there were some guys that were certainly like but then you see McCoy McCoy in the picture mhm one of these they were he was very pumped didn’t jamus said I told da we voted so sorry sorry Tam Hill didn’t vote Donal sorry

About it Arthur was mad at you I get it but he should been mad at me I didn’t get to tell him in real time I don’t know if he would understood hope he doesn’t hate me what if jamus runs over in the middle of that me I’m the not

Eting I called that and then Dennis Allen and Ry Smith both start yelling at him that’d be awesome and then James Breaks both their arms what the give them the M my guy Williams needed a touch he’s awesome dude Speaking of awesome today was pretty wild show yeah

Yeah lot of news a lot of people lot of different people join well it was big news Thursday yeah oh yeah amen look at big news Thursday big news Thursday sweet it’s not a big news today 111 one one two Zer two four big one big

One big one fun day Chuck we appreciate you buddy appreciate you want to give away some money Chuck I think we way would be a great way to end this thing oh yeah not a lot of people are very grateful I guess just going to say I

Don’t know about that push that one back oh you think maybe we just cancel giveaways for a little yeah I actually th% do all right well we a democracy that’s where my vote stands we should do a vote you know CU like jamus I would

Like to know what the guys would like I think you should suspend the giveaways cancel them or fire them or actually you know what why are we talking why did that ask ESPN and see what they want to okay all right it’s a great Point that’s a great point is it

Their money they’re giving away I don’t think so I don’t think that matters cuz people won’t listen either way what about the college game day kick was that their money people won’t listen they also won’t read either yeah yeah that was phenomenal last night doesn’t matter nothing nothing nothing matters it is

Crazy to think yeah that like once it gets going it it’s that’s oh yeah oh yeah done for Runway train it’s a game of telephone yep and then it’s gone and then by the time you reply no that can’t be real well I’m the actual I’m the

Actual no no you’re not no it’s not telephone either cuz some people just do it either way take 50 take 500 away oh we steal from people okay I’m not saying that I I didn’t mean that people Chuck makes it people send 500 I think we go higher Pat

I think we always go higher you’ve always gone higher let’s do that let’s go Chuck let’s do a give let’s do a giveway I cannot stress enough I wholeheartedly disagree with this Chuck let’s go baby let’s go for the people there’s been a lot of people going to

Bat for us too I saw a couple people underneath a lot of those going that ain’t that ain’t was but then they were there was a lot those people were immediately Cru and I’m like read I’m like well thank you for going to B for me but also I need to mute this

Conversation good luck I’m I know you’re getting right now but also me I need to get out of here just so so many things that aren’t real I’d like to play this right down the middle like I normally do you do normally do that seem a lot of

Ingrates out there but you know what you mean sick offense well obviously I think my big thing is just there’s a lot of people that just like just like lie well for sure why what does that I don’t know I don’t know I mean with all this stuff

You can certainly see on on Twitter you know like you know you get those endorphins where you’re going to put out just some and then back at it hey bald down there that can’t slow us throw one throw one give another one Chuck give another one I don’t know we don’t have enough

Balls keep throwing them my way I like this game I don’t think we have enough balls I like that we’re warming up here a little hey can you make that pitch coach or what oh oh oh Tai saved we actually had three giveaways yesterday too our most in a while yesterday of

Course that’s really good we had three giveaways you me announce on the graphic no but we’re also a bunch of that have sold out and have no brains and I’m a coward and everything like that maybe just one for all the glory one for all the glory yeah Chuck train it

Chuck even though it doesn’t feel like it there’s a lot of support for us out there and we appreciate the hell out of those people and for those people you’re going to throw that football into that hoop right over there and 25 people are going to win

$500 if you’re able to bury it on your first try for the good people Chuck Pagano 36 years as a coach an absolute that’s I thought he drained it in your face with that Connor tried to no my hands are so sweaty I just say Carnival okay saying stay Fair we need

Fairness it’s SL that’s unbelievable the same rules apply because what he he’s trying to sabotage you 25 people $500 without any distractions from Connor who wants to see no money go to anybody outside this Thunderdome for the rest of time amen Chuck Pagano can win $125,000 he’s scared stop looking at the

Rush you can’t be looking at the rush eyes went down you can’t do that come on Bo eyes went down AJ focus on the job at hand what’s that all about AJ I thought Chuck was tough it looked like uh it looked like KH was going to try to hit him right in

The balls with that stick I get it I down no it’s in it I sat back I don’t know if he’s going to hit you in a dong or hit you in a ball but you need to not worry about any of that this is a game

Of you in that Hoop It Ain’t About con man no it ain’t about the people are saying terrible things about us on a regular basis that seem to have no idea what they’re talking about what this is about is 25 people $500 on this historic

Day in NFL history Chuck do it for the people do some cat and camel get loose oh yeah oh are you still sore Chuck from taking on old buddy ugly Joe AJ I just got rid of that soreness it was like six or seven days me the

Shoulders the could you wipe your ass or no no I couldn’t oh man Tina had to help all right here’s a diaper the day I said when that when it comes to that honey just give me the pill what’s that whoa Viagra EU Asia no you’re talking about euthanasia what’s the pill

Pill no yeah e it’s part of it have somebody come wipe wipe your ass you got cash I’m with you you’re successful you’re allowed to have somebody wipe your ass come on Chuck they’ll spread you out y wipe it God huh that’ be tough you go back to

Like like when they like yeah baby like like McKenzie you got her down leg up yeah yeah mhm yeah Chuck’s fighting the whole time too peeing on the person he’s not happy about I my you know what they say you come into the world the same way you go out that’s

Right true yeah and a diaper yep don’t do the pill if you’re going to do it hire someone to shoot you in the head when you don’t know what coming yeah like a cool way yeah like Assassin wait waiting in line where de say buddy you

Vers me three years yep you know what I mean and just maybe you’re on the Run yeah May you’re on the Run that’s how you go out on the run that would be awesome don’t you think yeah I mean if you’re just going to take a might as

Well as well make it cool might as well make it what’s that AJ I don’t think that would be cool if what if you said hey next three years there’s a guy G to come try to kill you you got to be ready at all times but I think you’re allowed

To right in return I’m going to kill him back yeah could that’ be a fun way to walk around well for three years you already you got to remember you’re already dead cuz you took the pill yeah this is alive we’re keeping you alive that’s what we’re trying to do we’re

Trying to keep you alive or just go do all the drugs that people want to do and just it’ll kill you eventually well nowadays with fentanyl I don’t think anybody should do any drugs no drugs Dr no you’re right no you’re right hey that’s scary out there legit hey I don’t

Get it I don’t get it we don’t have a lot of teenagers that watch a show but for those that do like back in the day there used to be adults and humans that could like experiment with stuff you guys can’t now there was a code yeah no

But you guys can’t now cuz all the drugs are basically just killers that is not how it always has been so you hear these stories potentially of what it don’t now is not the time and it’s it’s just the way it is it’s super scary super I’m

Scared to death with my daughter coming into the world yeah and it’s like I feel like she’s probably gonna have a similar personality in me where she’s probably gonna have some friends that have good time and like that’s going to be something that’s coming up and it’s like

Hey this ain’t this ain’t 20 years ago this is nowadays it’s a kill like they were trying to kill you with that entire thing so I don’t think you need to take a pill or any of those drugs no maybe think about an assassin though yeah

That’s what you should do long time from now though that’s when you can’t wipe your own ass right that’s a long time from now that’s right I didn’t even think about your arm being terrible because of ugly Joe yeah one week ago this man beat ugly Joe

In a decision bout went three rounds y threw 110 punches around did you see the stats yeah I looked it up you weren’t Landing many of them sure but you were certainly throwing them and for that we respect you yep now you could win 25 people $500

All you got to do in that great gray look look at the shoes accessorizing with the shirt sweet with the undershirt AJ you see how cool he looks from Ohio and the hair chuck chuck figured it out Chuck figured out a long time ago he did didn’t he the game’s been changing

Because Chuck Pano and today 25 people’s lives can be changed all you got to do is put that ball in a hoop over there historic NFL day let’s make it a celebration I don’t like that at all did you like that one no from when when was the moment when it left your

Hand or beforehand Chuck or Connor still on your head or what this’s going yeah it is 25 people $500 you put that ball in the hoop boy that was in for yeah sound like we all would have cheered it would have yeah for real yeah but this Show’s B the

JFC you’re right you’re right 25 people $500 oh my God is that the Universe not even the what do you think I speak for oh my gosh well everybody the universe jeez theise chuck all right me to be will be it will hey what will be will be 25 I

Don’t think so Chuck didn’t want anybody win I think Chuck SI of it too it’s been a long couple days over here at the Thunderdome obviously self-imposed uh but we appreciate you all so much we do wish that maybe we could become a society that doesn’t just run with things that are not

Accurate that then build up a narrative and then the narrative is one that people will never change even if it’s not real at all and has been rebutted MH and proven to be wrong you’re allowed to change your opinion on things you’re allowed to as you develop and learn more information you’re

Allowed to decide you know what I was wrong that’s completely okay and in 2024 that’s what we’re going to do hell yeah hell yeah hell yeah us included we do it every single day you should see how much we’re like well now I learned that oh in or now I learned

That y that’s part of life we’re very lucky to be able to do this every single day for a living it is stupid that we get to do this every single day for a living we are thankful that this is our job but I’ll tell you what over the last couple

Days it has been exhausting you know and it has been something that uh is not what I retired from kicking balls to do sure so we’re going to get back to that hopefully talking balls having a good time and uh yeah just talking about sports especially because sports are

Needed in the world that we’re in in society it will be needed going forward thank you all so much for watching thank you to all our guests today add Reese Davis to the bunch yeah H yeah a lot of people today yeah tons lineup fun lineup

Oh yeah big news Thursday is over we’ll see you tomorrow be a friend tell a friend something nice it might change your life goodbye