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2:25 – Quotes of the Week
16:44 – Stories from the Beat
26:38 – Adam’s story/moment/anecdote all in one
35:47 – The Montross tribute revisited
39:17 – Evan’s moment
42:39 – Clemson preview
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Welcome in to another edition of inside Carolina on the beat live I’m your host Tommy Ashley sponsored by Johnny t-shirt and Johnny t-shirt.com all right boys we’re going to do this the right way it’s going to be quote story moment Adam Smith you’re on the clock we’re going to start right out of
The gate we can’t talk about what we were talking about off the air that is I see super duper premium um and I’m joking I was cop Jean triple Horn’s message and send it to Ben I mean let me let me cook over here
Okay we oh my we uh we we’ve uh we’ve gotten pretty good at this stuff we’re trying to narrow this showdown to keep it to keep it real and not two old guys and two young guys pontificating on the world’s problems um and this is going to be purely a basketball podcast unless
Somebody has a great football story um obviously if you’re interested in football check out inside Carolina Adam Jeremiah’s Evans Taylor’s work um Jason and I talk about it while they do all the hard work over there at inside Carolina on tarpit premium but first Adam going to you first quote quote of
The week my friend okay just so I know we’re not talking about anything with football this um if you have a football quote that is relevant no I just okay I I understand I understand I heard you I listen to what the teacher said and I’m
Gonna okay let me pull up my uh we’re we’re getting right into it here huh and for folk and while Adam’s getting this thing here’s my goal at some point is to learn how to do a poll so that you in the chat Slagle and crap and goffer and
Garrett and Mark all the guys in the chat B Mick can vote constantly on which three of these IC beat writers is the champ of the week Jeremiah’s first comment was like what do we get if we win Jeremiah um we are the nil Collective of the podcast we got no
Money Adam you’re up okay I’m ready uh and it actually goes right WR with what our guy be is talking about and I I I try to choose you know I think we all try to choose stuff that the other people might not be doing so you’re not
Taking anyone’s uh ideas or whatever although we we never talk about it so this is a little thing from at pit the other night and as you all know I love it I love an open locker room absolutely love it um it’s that’s just I I I I love
It um so I’m here me I got to pull it up here it’s from Harrison Ingram and keep in mind that uh this is moments after he shot two for 14 from the field he scored I believe it was a season low seven points he missed his first 11 shots 0
For 11 to start uh the two shots he did make were pretty big uh I think in the last five or six minutes um so we made our way over there to him you know after talking to Armondo and RJ and um the question was did you see your statline
Tonight and Ingram is just immediately like busting out laughing at the question uh he’s like no I have not seen it yet and after he says that he’s rocking back and forth in his chair and just he’s cackling at himself and I believe I said something
Like ah it wasn’t a vintage statline he goes man man I mean it was just one of those days laughing a bunch more you should pull up the YouTube videoos hilarious uh Jeremiah did a great job filming it and so he says at the end of the day my teammates strug trusted me
They told me to keep shooting so I kept shooting and I kept missing and then he’s buting out laughing some more but it happens it happens and I’ll try to bounce back offensively the next game that was the quote I chose because I don’t I just thought it was amazing
Little scene that this is a guy a proud dude who has been playing great Carolina’s I think third leading scorer on the season um he’s dealing with a RIS situation and he’s just I can’t stress enough how much you should watch this video he’s just laughing at himself um
Back rocking back and forth and I just thought there was a interesting little insight into who he is because as you all know we we I very much enjoy talking to him um just a fantastic person super smart obviously a great player um but the whole interview is interesting too
Because I was picking on him about I said who made you the enforcer of this team because as you you’ve seen you know he likes to give a shoulder to some guys on the opposing teams and get in their faces we saw it in the Bahamas we saw it
In Atlanta against Kentucky when he went after Dillingham after Dillingham went after paxt and woic we saw it the other night you know he’s like you know he was he is he could be president one day but this dude doesn’t take any crap and he’s got that mean streak um it’s just a
Fascinating individual I think he’s he’s he’s uh sort of a m faceted as a person as he is a player I just thought that up hey that might be the quote of the night if we had a poll I just want it guys you
Guys can just log off well I I put a poll on there I don’t know if I did it right so people in the chat are watching it uh it’s on the YouTube version but that’s what I’ve got and I again I encourage you to watch the video on on
The inside Carolina uh YouTube channel it’s just so funny to see he’s not only laughing he’s like cackling at himself he’s doubled over at one point just dying laughing about how many shots he made miss you know he sort of says like yeah I was terrible from the field oh by
The way he had a career high 15 rebounds uh against pit which was huge and um he defended Blake Henson as Jeremiah was asking him some good questions about that you know he held the acc’s third leading scorer very much in check Henson had a terrible night uh from the field
So there the most shots Harrison Ingram took this season most misses he had had and the fewest shots he had made and he’s just dying laughing and I think it also speaks to kind of who this team is overall you know it’s it’s a different team absolutely and Harrison Ingram of
Course one of the most important guys on the team Evan you good I’m good I mean I feel like I’m in Back to the Future like disappeared at his parents house it looks like it no I’m I’m actually I’m actually at my girlfriend’s house right now so I think
They’ve got a some shaky shaky Wi-Fi over here in the I know I know what that crowd does for a living they’ve got like five Ultra you know you’re you’re probably sitting on a cashmere couch and uh with 100 in monitors Jeremiah you’re up quarter of the week yeah I’m glad um I’m
Glad Adam picked the uh Harrison Ingram one I thought that was a really good one I did not realize and it makes sense that that was the most shots he took in a game this year but that makes perfect sense I actually was going to go with a
A basketball one as well obviously but I was going to go the Seth Trimble route so Seth Trimble obviously he has the 10 points off the bench nine when were in the first half at a time that you would see just could not make a shot uh I
Think probably the most memorable it kind of depends on if you’re a guy that prefers threes or dunks obviously he had the buzzer beating three uh shot clock buzzer beating three I thought his highlight play would have been that uh that design lob um you know coming out
Of the uh you know on the side out so he takes the ball out RJ passes it or he passes it to RJ then he actually runs around the three-point line cuts down the the top of the key uh and gets the dunk it’s like eye to eye with the rim
On the dunk uh but the quote that I got from him that I actually enjoyed the most in the second half early in the second half right before that First Media timeout there was a play where one of the Pittsburgh players was dribbling and Trimble actually reaches in about to
Get the steal and at the last second they call a foul but Trimble had like the entire other half of the Court like to himself uh so that you know was probably going to be a you know Showtime type situation you know like I’m trying
To think who the player was I think it was like Steve Francis or something like to yourself and like dunking it or something I don’t know what he would have did uh so I actually asked him about it I was like Seth do you remember that play when you got the steal and
They ended you almost got a steal and they ended up call a foul uh so the first thing that Seth says to me is uh I was gonna put my neck on the room he immediately no hesitation I was going to put my neck on the rim then he goes on
To say um I was trying to put my neck neck on the rim I was very upset when they called that back I was going to do something y’all haven’t seen so I like that one cuz it was just you know we’ve obviously seen throughout the year and obviously his athleticism is something
That we knew about before he got to UNCC but throughout the year he’s done his best to display that obviously against UC Riverside he had that poster dunk that’s actually um for those who haven’t been out to a game this season that’s on the intro video for all their home games
They put that Seth Trimble dunk and it’s kind of like they’re transition to the next you know part of the video or whatever um so you’ve had that you’ve had also just layup attempts with a dude like always goes off of two feet too uh
He always goes off of two feet he said it’s because he’s had you know some ankle injury kind of things so he he feels more comfortable off of two feet uh and he said he’s always kind of done it like that but uh yeah there’s been several even just layup attempts this
Year he’s kind of contorting or whatever uh you know in midair he looks like he wants to dunk it obviously but it doesn’t really matter if it’s Slayer po dunk he’s always uh you know getting off the ground about the same amount so um I thought that one stood out because uh I
Think that’s probably a forgotten play in the game but it was something that was certainly uh on his mind even after the game had already ended and also he did have a big contribution in that game he had the um like I said the nine points when UNC was kind of struggling
To to get some shots and I think that helped them help buffer them a little bit to end up uh going on some in that game a trimble maybe the the surprise of the year so far I think he he’s played well and if I remember correctly JP
Jumped off two feet as well um I was say runs in the family yeah and he could get up but uh yeah he was going to neck somebody put his neck on the rim and go does right put your neck on the rim I’ve
Done it I’ve done it it was 8 foot and uh you know we had to knock a few toddlers out of the way to get to the rim Evan you’re up uh now I don’t want to disturb your your night over there there but get in here the chat the
Chat’s letting you have it for the record Gregory Hall has out kicked his coverage and Evan has two as well um I love the comment is it’s the same girlfriend as Gregory H girlfriend well we had a man we had a and I love Gregory Gregory if you’re watching I’m sorry but
We had a mantio moment for a moment for a little while with Gregory so uh we had to make sure Evan you’re up and and we have no moment no such moment with Evan because he he has he has intertwined himself with a good family go ahead Evan yeah
It’s funny Adam with the Harrison Ingram out that was actually my first quote that I had marked down but I knew I heard Adam in the video laughing when Harrison said it so I had a feeling he might take it so I had a backup quote so
I’m glad I did that um but it was from after the Pittsburgh game it was Armando talking about just the current state of the team and kind of where he feels they’re at and I remember the last podcast I kind of talked about I think I think it was before maybe the Oklahoma
Game or right around that time I said we were going to learn a lot about this UNCC team by the new year and what Armando said is we’re not satisfied we feel like we should have had one or two more of those games Yukon was better
Than us at the moment but we felt like we left something on the table in reference to the the Villanova and the Kentucky games I think that’s a good point like that’s kind of how I think the general consensus is about this team I think everyone at the
Moment felt like Yukon was a step ahead or class ahead of UNCC but against Kentucky and against Villanova those were games that could have been wins or at least felt like UNCC was kind of in that same class and kind of relating it to the Pittsburgh game just the nature
Of that game and the physicality and the low shooting field goal percentage and it being the first true Road game of the year I saw a lot of people talking about how this you know isn’t it the Classic this isn’t a game UNC wins last year
Which you know I think is a fair point but I also think that’s the kind of game a a top 10 top 15 team wins I think UNCC kind of furthered the point about they are deserving of what the ranking is that they have right now and I don’t think
There that’s been that way for the past couple years in the regular season I think this is something that this team is going to continue to build on and I think it’s important that a like Armando in the position that he’s at is kind of understanding just the nature of this
Team and also understanding maybe the ceiling that they can get to because it does feel like they still are kind of a a far ways away from kind of clicking all cylinders I think the only time we’ve seen them really play at full strength or to their full capacity was
Probably that first half against Tennessee and they’re going to have a couple of opportunities especially in the near future on the road to kind of further put a mark on their top 10 ranking and kind of further validate the spot they have right now yeah I agree
With that I think Yukon and Kentucky are better than Carolina um certainly Yukon Kentucky debatable I think Villanova is the one that they they should have gotten but I mean you’re in the Bahamas um there’s plenty to do in the Bahamas sometimes games get away out there I
Start a comment and I want Adam to get in here because Adam is the elder Statesman and I remember this and Derek Phelps uh Derek was in school so Granville Towers was Derek Eric montros Sullivan rier and Brian Reese back in the day and u b ree used to steal my
Breakfast order at D anytime at Granville all the time but I digress Cole Anthony got some lobs didn’t he Adam he uh I remember that a few times that’s what we were were talking about uh T and T ta and I were just talking about this I I feel like Cole Anthony
Definitely they ran L plays for him and Kobe white too right I mean because I think you know Kobe white I don’t know if anybody’s ever he’s taller than you think he’s like I know the hair make a hair joke there especially for those of us who
Don’t have any hair but uh Kobe White’s a tall dude like he’s not like a little 61 like water bug and Cole Anthony just has ridiculous hops um but I think those are the two guys that that come to mind because I mean Joel Barry definitely
Wasn’t catching any LS and I don’t think Marcus paage was either although I’ve we’ve seen Marcus dunk I’m sure um but you know they weren’t running any lobs for Ty lson um but that those two jump out to me Cole Anthony and Kobe white I think if anybody remembers in the chat
They can correct me but I remember those guys I think certainly being capable of of catching a lob if they didn’t run those plays absolutely and and again tremble you know we’re talking about his athleticism and that ability but his ability to come in and spell Elliot CAD
I mentioning in the postgame with Greg the other night I think it’s just huge for this team to to sort of save kadoo from himself sometimes cuz kadoo is he takes things so tough when he when things go sideways a little bit and I think uh I think trimble’s ability to
Come in and be sort of that balancing Force there but anyway let’s move on let’s go to uh and you’re listening to on the beat live of course Johnny t-shirt Johnny t-shirt.com our sponsors and this is the crew here this is the crew that brings it all together interesting that you
Guys were traveling yesterday when all hell broke loose on the football side um but still managed to have just wonderful coverage of that but story of the week Jeremiah you’re first up on story yeah I’m not going to lie my story of the week was actually football related I don’t know if
We um my story of the week and actually is relevant to uh recent news um when me I guess all of us were there um it’s at the end of the availability the pre-bowl availability U me and Adam are at the table we’re talking to power Eckles it’s
Like the last guy that we talked to and this is one of the last two or three questions that he gets asked so Adam and we kind of had you know knew that some changes were coming on the defensive staff and things like that uh so Adam actually asked power about Jean shizit
And kind of asks him uh you know is this pretty much the guy that you want you know leading the defense and and things like that and so power goes on to say and I’m I’m paraphrasing it but he goes on to say that and he doesn’t even
Hesitate that chiz’s the right guy to lead the defense and he’s G to say that you know they’re keeping things in house but he felt that chisik was um you know the right guy and so that’s obviously and you know certainly you don’t expect the guy you know the day before ball
Game to you know trash his coach I’m not saying that um but I do think that uh when you consider how that game how that West Virginia game kind of played out and then you also consider the fact that the first time this season they were in that
Arena or that Stadium uh you know they got nine sacks and they held and that’s you know South Carolina was great this year but you know nine sacks and they held into I think 17 points uh and then you just the obvious contrast between that starting off one and0 you know kind
Of having some somewhat height expectations at the time uh to then you know your season finishes two and five really if you count the bowl loss um and then obviously the the changes that are the changes that are coming uh but I think also from that moment not just the
Fact that there’s you know the the staff change uh really the onfield dynamic too because power Eckles that whole game was in Cedric gray spot yeah at at the uh at the linebacker position he had Amari Campbell true freshman right next to him
Uh so it’s it’s going to be a a new look def I think well New Look might be somewhat of a strong we’ll see how you know the you know who UNC ends up picking up and uh which freshman I guess in that incoming class uh you know they end up deciding
To use which freshman from the class they just had they end up you know taking big roles next year because cell colon and obviously Mari Campbell played a lot um but uh I think this is just like kind of the the sign of a little bit of a transition you’re getting into
The post CED gray era uh so part of that is you know new big Playmakers on the defense and then part of that’s obviously new coaching you know staffs uh uh new coaches uh on that defense as well so I don’t know that’s one that
Stuck out to me um just because it was just so close to you know what ended up happening with obviously Jean chisuk and and Tim cross and just to add to that real quick ta if you don’t mind like I mean I think Jeremiah is absolutely
Right I mean that was kind of a an interesting day I mean the morning after Christmas it’s a little sleepy and you know the juice for the Mayo bowl is not exactly like the juice for the Rose Bowl obviously but you know the comments from
Mac that day that was the day he went in on fans being drunk and bedding to the stuff that I asked him and you know you heard from Mac that day that it absolutely sounded like the changes were coming down the pipe pretty quickly and then as we said over there with power
Echles who by the way the last couple times we’ve talked to him I think he’s been really insightful he’s sort of a man of few words he’s a lot of action and not many words power is and um yeah I think I said something to the point of
A lot of people are mad at Jean chisik I think is how I started it or something like that and um you could tell p mean think about this this is the guy power Eckles has played under um you know the last two years and power was taking up
For Jean um but I also thought was interesting after the game we got Cayman Rucker and uh um the last thing I got to ask him was just you know Cayman you’re a four-year veteran schematically would you like to what what would you like to
Change or add or alter just to help this defense and I thought his comment was interesting he said honestly I don’t know and then he said that has to come from up top you know uh so I thought that was kind of another telling moment been several telling moments here down
Through November and December uh for the Carolina defense and Carolina football team in general so um yeah jeremi just mentioned that just take it just takes you right back there you know what I mean so just wanted to hop in on that real quick no I mean it’s certainly
Relevant people forget and this is a soap box thing people forget these are people you know it’s not they’re not robots they’re not press X and flip the scheme on Madden and things like that it’s real life people there and it’s interesting to see how it all shakes out
Um of course stick with inside Carolina these guys will be all over it and there is no offseason and all that kind of stuff so Evan can I come back to you I’m going to make Adam go last on the story can I come back to you with a story you
Got you got a moment yeah I’ve got I’ve got one and a half because I actually was I had one for football that kind of Jeremiah did touch on that I just briefly talk about kind of just comparing the full circle narrative and just notion of being back in Charlotte
And I think one of the the crazy things of the whole weekend was you know talking to Connor harell after showed some flashes here and there obviously wasn’t the greatest offensive output with only 10 points and talking to him about you know hurting his ankle early
In the game and once he’s done talking with the media he kind of scoots out from the wall that he was on and he’s kind of walking away and you can definitely see like a noticeable limp as he’s walking back into the locker room that were right outside he there’s a I
Don’t even know what it’s called a bike gate or something that they use to block things off that’s kind of blocking off the the entrance to the hallway to where the the locker room is and he kind of grasps that gate pretty hard as he’s walking around kind of just trying to
Keep some weight off of the ankle really and just kind of that image in itself I think really just paints this large scale picture of just where this program is kind of going into this offseason I think this is the first offseason under Max second stint that there’s a lot of
Unknowns maybe not as much juice as there’s been in years past I mean you had the Sam H Howell Fiasco and and the Drake May excitement in this offseason you know you’ve got the news today with Diego pounds and you got these question marks at some key positions that I think
People are kind of interested to see how that’s going to play out obviously you’ve got to look for a defensive coordinator um just a lot of question marks I think and just the image of you know limping into the off season kind of as how I pictured it is kind of
Indicative of of what’s kind of going on with that program and then kind of really the the other story I was thinking about was after the Charleston Southern Basketball game us talking with Jaylen Washington this was after he had his career high um and he’s a dude that
You know contrary to I guess what his roommate Seth Trimble would say he always came off as a pretty quiet uh softspoken guy but after his career high it was by far the most he’s ever smiled or laughed or just laugh just super outgoing I guess is kind of how he was
For his time being there and it was funny after me and Adam were were done with our work there at what 2:30ish don’t have to get specific I something around that time um just to kind of give people the idea of what nerds we are um the the the big screen
On the I think it’s called The Woody Durham Sports Media Center or something like that that big screen that you see outside the Smith Center that replays the highlights it’s like you know crack of the morning it’s super cold it’s 35 degrees me and Adam are walking to the
Parking lot and we see those highlights and we just kind of just stand there and like watch them all through and just talk through each play and obviously a bunch of those are Jaylen Washington’s threes and his dunks and stuff like that so just kind of all those little small
Moments I’ve kind of just tagged along with Adam and Jeremiah and just soak everything up and and kind of learn everything I can um but those are two two one and a half I guess of the the stories I kind of had from this past
Week Can You Feel The Love yeah I was going to say it’s like Kumbaya 2:30 in the morning it’s like let’s get the hell out of here boys it’s cold and it’s late listen to UTA that cold heart this is this is a beautiful moment let’s Embrace
This this is this is the story this isn’t a moment I agree I mean look we did stop and watch it I for what a reason when I’m walking out sometimes I like to watch those you know how they’re always just running them all night it’s kind of
Like yeah I remember that you know well the thing about covering a game is you’re not really watching the game you it’s different when you can just sit and watch a you’re trying to cover it and report it and tweet it and all that stuff and then you go back and try to
Check it out and there’s a ton of stuff you miss so Adam you’re up U your story of the week not to be confused with the moment that sounded like a moment that you guys had and I love it but story let me tell you something ta I
Hadn’t thought about this until about five seconds ago but I’ll give you what what am I giving you a story yes I’m G to give you a story in the moment I’m gonna take one and Bleed It blended it like you know blur the lines I’m a
Storyteller anyway you know like this is how I’m gonna I’m just gonna take it from one to the next and then you can as the point guard you can pass it over to Jeremiah keep it moving Ball’s not gonna stick here um actually I do have a
Response for our guy Jean triple Horn uh that uh Ben Sherman said he’ll leave it to the experts um so that was the I had sent the the word along to Ben about joining the show who knows maybe we we’ll get him one day um but well okay
Here we go so I keep going back to pit the other night um which I love Pittsburgh as a town anyway but um so I just I just sort of was struck by the fact as Jeremiah has heard me say Ed na him I’m sorry I’m GNA put him to sleep
On this one but um you know they they last season’s team played pit on December 30th uh by the way is the last time they were ranked they were number 25 in the AP pole they lost that game and they never returned it was sort of
The beginning of the end which we did not know that at the time we thought that since they had beaten Ohio State and Michigan the two games before okay they starting to get it back together here uh you know they’re going to beat pit they’re going to turn the corner
Into the new year and you know this might be the team that everyone expects it to be um but that day uh at pit UNC had a nine-point lead in the second half and to to be honest with you they were sort of cruising um you know and I will
Never forget it uh I believe leaky black got the rebound dribbled it up the court took a three no pass and the dang thing went down and back out I mean it was halfway down so that thing’s going down for a 12-point lead for UNCC like Midway
Through the second half did not go in rattles out they’re still up nine well we all know what happens the nine-point lead crumbles Henson what was it jamarius Burton number 11 the kid from Charlotte he went crazy um he actually abused Seth Trimble a couple times late
In that game um and UNC loses the game so they blow a nine-point lead at pit um you fast forward to oh by the way orando was cussing in the postgame that that day too he said a few Choice words about BS and other things he had a lot to get
Off his chest that day he actually was like come over you know he was like come here you know when you went in there like I got some I got something to say come here right I mean it was like oh okay you like you know I mean he legit
Waved me over um so anyway fast forward to the other night it’s two days after New Year’s it’s January the 2nd uh the ACC slate is getting going UNC is up gets up nine in the second half and obviously it was a complete struggle with the shooting they shot they had a
Season low in their shooting still one but I remember put it in putting it in the story that they got to the nine-point lead and it could have been ominous if you remember what happened the last time but they were able to build it end up winning by 13 and uh
Talking to Armondo afterward the other night you know he absolutely remembered the way they lost last year and cussing about it and um he was telling a story about how uh Hubert has started recently doing a lot of situational stuff in practice he was saying we doing a lot of
Last three minutes of the game stuff and um I just thought it was an interesting like point to connect from last year two days before New Year to this year two days after to the fact that they were able to sort of slug their way through a awful shooting performance um the type
That they had so many times last year the last time they had played pit in Chapel Hill they lose by one point UNCC does and they shot five for 31 from three-point range they missed 26 three-point shots I mean if one goes down they win the dang game like and
That’s awful obviously just imagine if five went down if they 10 for 31 you know they WI they walked the dog on them um but I just thought those were two interesting points to connect and Armondo is sitting right beside RJ Davis in the locker room and they’re both
Definitely remember the way the thing got away last year up there and this year didn’t get away and they they closed out the win and they won the game and they picked up another quad one win so that was sort of my story or anecdote or moment that just the through line
From December 30th 2022 to January 2nd uh 2024 U I thought it was kind of an interesting sort of jua position there and I transition oh do you want to go ta do you have a followup no what I was going to say is this and that’s why
People think this team is different AB from last year absolutely um yeah it’s one of those sort of like the hard evidence you can point to sort of but beyond the way it feels and the different personalities and everything but and I’ll quickly transition to whatever this is my anecdote uh hope to
God I I I will say it quickly because it might be Jeremiah’s anecdote too but I just thought it was interesting that after so after the game that’s what we’re getting and then we’re leaving I apologize Jeremiah I’m sure this might be your then we’re leaving and uh it’s me and Jeremiah and
Inside Carolina Legend Jim Hawkins photographer I know you’re going yeah and we’re leaving the Peterson Event Center you know it’s late it’s probably about 11 11:30 maybe 12 o’clock and it’s cold super freaking cold out there and for anyone that’s ever been on pits campus the thing is so hilly I mean it
Is a ton of heels um you know we we try to help Jim with his bag sometimes he’s got such heavy equipment I mean these are you’re making a climb up and down this place this campus so we’re walking out of there and it’s very quiet students aren’t back yet you know it’s
Quiet night and Jeremiah looks like straight ahead of us and we got to climb up a big big ass heel big heel to get to a rental car and there’s like a deer you know this is very much an urban campus there’s a deer looking right at us um
You know it’s middle of the night you know it’s cold jerem’s like look at that deer and I was like what is he oh my God it is a deer then the next thing you know here’s another deer head popping up here’s another deer five freaking deer y
Eventually as we got closer you know we thought it was one deer two deer three all these deer popping up um and they were just I guess what roaming around I don’t know they were on the side of this again massive Hill massive Hill that we had to take to get
To the the parking lot where we parked um so that was uh they led us to the car it was the Moonlight it was very cold clear night and there were some uh Urban deer there watching us walk out um which uh I don’t know we talked about it uh on
Our way get a pizza after that so um that’s that was the anecdote I had I’m sorry screwed you over Jeremiah there you go look not far from where deer hunor was filmed and All the Right Moves okay Sean that well that you can count on Sean Crowley
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We got 158 people there’s a lot of people here on Thursday night shout out to everybody joining us I mean you guys have so much else you could be doing and you’re hanging out with the four of us Adam leading the way um I love reading the chat I know really
I try to I love our audience I really do so what I try to do sometimes is I try to pull up random comments as y’all are talking but I don’t want to distract and uh but I’m going to start just dragging out random uh comments because they’re
They are great in there and shout out to everybody that puts them in here Jeremiah I need an anecdote and it can’t be about the deer on the hill and people forget when you go to Clemson or excuse me go to Pittsburgh for the football games you going to hin ffield or
Whatever it’s called now in downtown Pittsburgh baseball stadiums right there permanis all those places are right around there Pitts campus is not that and uh so to Adam’s point it is a little bit different than downtown Pittsburgh U but anyway Adam you’re I mean Jeremiah you’re up yeah I actually wasn’t even
Going to use the uh deer one so I’m glad that ended up uh being used yeah I don’t know I’m from the outskirts of uh Greensboro so I’ve seen a year or two in my day for sure um but yeah actually the one that I was going to roll with uh it
Was basketball but it was right before the Charleston Southern game so the Charleston Southern game was the first home game that UNC had post uh Eric Mon’s passing and obviously again prayers and condolences to uh that whole family but um what they did before the game I believe it’s actually right
Before the national anthem uh they did a tribute to Eric montra so they did they put obviously his picture up and they they actually cycled beside it a few other pictures of his playing career then some from his media career so obviously with you know like with his
Headsets on uh and then just also with him uh in the Chapel Hill Community uh you know doing uh you know in his involvements and and things like that so um what they ended up doing after the PA announcer obviously was kind of going through some of his uh you know talking
About his legacy uh on and off the court obviously baset and non-basketball related um they do a moment of silence and then after the moment of silence ends I really I should have timed it to see how long it was but after the moment of silence there was a resounding clap
So people get up I guess they’re already standing up technically but they’re you know they just kind of sit there and they just clap and it just is a natural just ongoing um Applause and then obviously um for those of you all that saw the uh the Eric monos warm-up shirts
After it was right before the uh the the game in uh Charlotte against Oklahoma so they used those warm-ups against Oklahoma they used them uh against uh against Charleston Southern as well uh so I thought that being you know the first game in Chapel Hill uh since Mon’s
Passing I thought that was a very you know just powerful moment uh hbert Davis did touch on it a little bit postgame um you know obviously shaking up that being his his friend for uh you know for so long but um I thought that was uh certain certainly a standout moment you
Know on that day for sure yeah indeed and folks the hat back there you can order that I posted that link on the message board a while back but also um donate to the Children’s Hospital and all that Eric certainly a legend on the basketball court 1993
National champion and all that stuff but far more than that basketball side of it and that speaks to what Jeremiah’s talking about is is people remember the basketball side but the non-basketball side is what truly made a difference in Chapel Hill and the area and the state
And the country actually but uh yeah so shout out to Jeremiah for that story certainly a great moment yep Evan good luck following Jeremiah I think jere I think I’m going on the YouTube chat right now and I’m voting for Jeremiah so Evan you’re up I need an
Anecdote and then we’re going to talk about Clemson so make it quick I need a quick story this time quick anecdote I feel like I already gave mine in a way right you gave a m you get I think I messed it up I think I said
Moment and story you were throwing too many synonyms around all these moment and you’re a you’re a college student at Carolina you should understand the rules I’ve got a quick one I’ve got a quick one I’ve got a Wii over there is that this is this is this is uh this so for
The Pittsburgh game um obviously I was covering from afar back in in fuk wave Arena and I always text the guys when I’m back home or if I’m not with them just before like hey you need anything from me let me know shoot me a text
Whatever because I know I’m quick to my laptop I’ve got hopefully good Wi-Fi so I can look something up quick so the other night uh before the pit game Adam was asking me hey you know with it being a quad one game at the time uh he wanted
To know how many quad one wins or what was uncc’s quad one record last season because obviously that was a very pressing matter as the the year kind of transpired and it seemed like every 24 hours people were checking the net rankings yep so I grabbed my laptop I’m
Sitting at home on my couch and I’m looking up net rankings archive and I can’t find it and I’m looking up net rankings from 2022 and I can’t find it I’m I’m getting so frustrated like talking to myself because I can’t find these rankings and funny enough my
Girlfriend is actually right next to me watching the game and she can hear me talking to myself about these net rankings and she can’t find it and she’s like oh they went one and nine I found it in this article right here and sure enough I look over and she’s already
Found it on one Google search from I don’t even know who the publication was but it was an article and I sure enough I look up UNCC quad 1 91 record and like six different Publications have had in these articles and I’ve already been looking at this thing for about five
Minutes looking up all these ridiculous key phrases from archive to 2022 to just try to find the full ranking list and I should have just looked up UNCC specifically so I guess that’s a lesson to me to to be smart who I watch the games with because they actually might
Be able to help me out in some cases uh but that was my quick little covering from a a far story right there from the fway somebody say shout out so you need to uh can you get on so she can I mean rather than paraphrasing and hearsay we
Can get the real thing guys this has been a fun show so far if you have not voted in the chat vote um there’s a far more people in the chat than have voted so I need you guys to vote as well I think Adam’s running away with it at
This point oh where is it can I see it it’s on the YouTube chat so you got to go to the YouTube channel keep them coming baby and uh you know I think it’s cuz I put you first maybe it was a anyway folks getting in their vote I see
The votes going up right now but anyway let’s talk a little bit is voting right now she voted for Adam we can only vote once Lady of IC tonight so Adam Smith with 47% of the vote Jeremiah with 33 and Evan pulling up the rear at 20% drop to 19 as I’m
Speaking oh folks continue to get your votes in if you voted early you only get one vote so that’s why you don’t vote early you wait till all the evidence is in going back in my old lifetime uh you wait till they all all the evidence is
In right now Adam running away with it Jeremiah let’s talk a little bit about Clemson now because Pittsburgh is a road win and an important win but Pittsburgh’s not the same Pittsburgh they were last year Clemson seems legit even though they had a little trouble with Miami um but going to Clemson as
The student filter back in just sort of what do tar Hills need to be um on point with going to face Clemson down there in Little John on Saturday yeah certainly so Miami really just kind of took off on Clemson you know kind of late in that
Game Miami’s a solid team like they really are they’re what 10- two 11- two uh so you know that’s obviously a a solid Miami team that they lost to I think for UNC the name of the game is probably going to end up being PJ Hall just because when I look at and
Obviously PJ Hall is their best player yes but from a matchup standpoint I I kind of feel like he’s going to be the toughest one to really deal with um you know being you know 610 obviously can handle it and shoot it uh and he’s been
A major factor in this league for you know a few years now U and then obviously right now I should have checked where he ranks in scoring as far as ACC guys but he’s averaging over 20 points a game uh so he’s second okay appreciate it RJ first he’s second and
Yeah yeah so he’s a dude you know what I mean so I think he’s I think he’s going to be kind of the the name of the game I think honestly right now UNC they’ve kind of figured uh they’ve kind of gotten on a little bit of a role here
Because you know kind of as we alluded to earlier yes the Yukon game that was a game where Yukon just was Yukon just clearly was a better team Kentucky I thought that was one that you know I did think Kentucky would win the game but I
Thought that was when they could kind of compete but you know since then uh they’ve been able to string together some wins and things like that they even won a game and these games matter uh a game like a Pittsburgh game where you don’t shoot it well at all to you know
Win a game like that especially on the road a game like that kind of goes a long way because obviously they weren’t really winning those types of games last year and really the year before that prior to March so um I think the fact that they were able to go into that
Environment and win was big now obviously Clemson is better than Pit yes um but I do think like I said uh those greedy games that you kind of have to win close uh you know those are the ones that you know kind of show the the
Character of a team uh if you will they’ve lost games like that too like they obviously the villain Nova game was um an overtime loss and then the Kentucky one it took a full you know 40 minutes really I think Kentucky controlled it most of the game but they
Still ended up being um a pretty close game so um I think for me is really just you know finding a way to make PJ Hall less efficient PJ Hall also has you know a lot of guys around him uh that can kind of help you know that’s a good
Offensive team but I think if you make him less efficient uh I think that kind of I think that’s going to go a long way and then offensively just relying on the guys relying on obviously RJ Davis is scoring relying on some of those guys on
The perimeter uh as well Joe Gerard I mean good God man I mean what is up with Joe Gerard transferring and orange jerseys and all Evan what’s the key for North Carolina against Clemson on Saturday I am going to say it’s funny you bring up Joe Gerard I think the key is going
To actually be Seth Trimble because I think against a team like Clemson I think if I was coach which obviously I’m not I think I would kind of take an approach that they took with the Duke teams of the Poo BOS and basically allow PJ Hall to get hits because I think he’s
Such a skilled player in terms of his size his shooting I mean I think he’s close to 38% from three on on good volume he can handle it um he can move great I mean he’s a beast and I think it’s going to be hard to stop him but if
You take the idea of of like they did with Palo banero and let that guy get his but pretty much shut everyone else around him out I think that’s where UNCC could be successful and I think when you have a team like Clemson that has a Joe Gerard who’s
Shooting over 45% from three this year you’re going to need a guard to step up defensively and I think that guy is Seth Trimble I don’t think you can trust RJ or Elliott to really kind of rattle that guy up to this point um so I think just Collective team defense regarding the
Guys outside of PJ Hall I think is going to be the biggest key and I think over these past three games they’ve been probably their three best defensive performances especially when you consider mainly the Oklahoma and the Pittsburgh games in terms of quality of opponent those are for sure I would say
Probably their two best defensive games since they were quality opponent and they they held them to I think both under 60 points right I could be wrong about Oklahoma I think they might have had 70 but I thought it was funny this is actually one of the two games remaining on UNC
Schedule that kenpom has UNC projected to lose I think right now it’s 80 to 79 the other game is at Duke at the end of the year um so this is a this will be an interesting game I think it’s going to be a insane environment I think everyone’s kind of understands that
Especially with students getting back to that uh getting back on campus and even with the Miami loss this is still a really good team um so I would say number one key is kind of try to limit the damage that everyone else around PJ Hall does and maybe let kind of his get
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Necessarily need people to vote I like where the results are right now well you can’t complain if you if you don’t vote you know is’t that what we say all the time you’re in line stay in line yes if exactly Adam Smith currently before he gives his final monologue is up 51%
To 30 to 20 over Evan Rogers Evan exactly where he needs to be he’s got to work himself up he’s got to get experience as I talk Adam goes up to 52% let’s run away with this thing everybody you’re going to just see if you can push
It to 70 Plus ad him go close I mean Jeremiah’s hair looks great tonight he looks great every time I see everybody looks great let’s run away with this let’s teach these young puppies a lesson for God’s sakes gotta put got to put asri on it like a Bott scoring record you
Know yeah how do we feel about he put as on it himself got a shout out fireman Lamont we met him the other night at the Charleston Southern game shout out fireman Lamont yes sir he was there looked like we had his family he was shouting out Evan he was telling
Jeremiah he was proud of him I daed him up at halftime he met my mom um whoa that says it’s getting deep introducing his fit on as the children would say I mean like he was showing out for the for the appearance of the Charleston Southern
Game he was up in the upper deck but he was still bringing the energy big time um yeah Sean Crowley I don’t there you go that’s that’s the winner Sunrise biscuits for Adam not yet though it’s gone down the more you talk the further it goes down Adam all right I can seeed
My time what my back stop the count serious serious question uh Carolina and Clemson this is a big game for North Carolina basketball this is one of those ones um you know a lot of people have said Hubert has adapted this team is different and all this is one of
Those games that can certainly stamp that in ink if they can go to Clemson and get a win Adam your thoughts on what needs to happen oh that I mean if they if they’re able to get a win it’s a win we’ll be talking about two two and a
Half months from now when the when the NCA tournament seatings come out um I think it’s only four unbeaten team I mean these teams have only played two games two conference games I think there’s only four unbeaten teams left in ACC play and two of those play each
Other Saturday in Winston Salem Miami and and Wake Forest so you’ll have one uh dropping off the unbeaten list there I mean by the time Sunday comes and you know UNCC could be a you know UNCC in the Wake Miami winter could be the only unbeaten teams left after after three
Conference games and it certainly will be a long road the rest of the way I mean it’s a 20 game conference season it’s it’s it’s such a grind um but I was thinking as we were talking about you know the atmosphere at Little John which is usually always charged for Clemson I
Mean for UNCC and Duke you can watch those some of those games that little John you’re like well they’re just waiting till football season but when UNCC and Duke show up just like everywhere else on the AC you know they’re out for blood um and I was
Thinking what was it lecky’s Mom the last time they were there tell telling people to hush is that right what was it that I was there covering it but wasn’t she on the broadcast like was it there or was it during the covid year when she was you could hear her letting people
Hold it well I the last time they were there I think oh yeah that’s right I don’t think they didn’t go there last year they beat him badly in Chapel Hill it was when Brady had the layup right at the end like he made a cut Caleb Caleb
Love was going in for a layup and like slipped it to Brady cutting on the other side yeah Le’s was on the it was The Great Escape for the tar Hills um but yeah I mean last year they played one time in Chapel Hill and Carolina blitzed
Them that was a game they needed leaky completely shut down Hunter Tyson I think Hunter Tyson only had three points I mean he locked him up um and interestingly enough you’re talking about Joe Gerard I know leaky wasn’t the primary defender on Gerard when UNC would play Syracuse but they would put
Leaky on him for some change of pace and you want to talk about the length he would just swallow that little boy up I mean we have some I know for a fact I’ve used them with leaky stories before we have some Jim Hawkins photos of leaky
Defending Gerard and it looks like you know Plastic Man like wrapping up you know a small child I mean just the difference in like he used to do on Kei Clark um but anyway none of this helps for Saturday um I think I think something to think about and PJ Hall
Obviously he factors into everything they do but I was looking at it today and that’s a sneaky long I don’t know if big is the right word but they have some height on that front line hall is 610 Ian shefflin is like a 6869 Banger and the Chanty Wiggins dude I know he’s
Super skinny but he’s like 611 um you know pit UNC played pit Tuesday night pit led the ACC and rebounding margin UNCC outrebounded him 51 to four 51 to 41 which was huge I thought and and pit had the height Advantage you know with in terms of
Starting lineups UNC is going to be smaller to them across across the front line on Saturday um and they’re going to need Harrison Ingram they’re going to need cor macarine they’re going to need all those guys crashing and uh Clemson interestingly enough is number two in
The ACC in rebounding margin so you got pit one Clemson two um so I mean I know you can say that about every game that you got to get on the glass but you know I think that’s huge I think the foul situation PJ Hall got in foul trouble
Last night at Miami I think he fouled out with more than four minutes to go uh and I feel like Armondo I would have to look it up this is just a rattling around in my bald head but I think Armando has failed fared pretty well
Against PJ Hall in the past I don’t think PJ did a ton last year in Chapel Hill although it could be totally wrong I feel like Chase Hunter played really well but I don’t remember um but I mean I think the Armando PJ Hall who is able to play with physicality throw their
Body around protect the rim and also not pick up the fouls um would be huge uh and I I think you need I think you need kdo uh to be present and not to have sort of a shrinking effort I know that’s another obvious thing but um I think it’s is
Going to be a really tough game I mean it’s tough to win on the road and uh I think Clemson’s gonna be pissed after losing at Miami and Clemson has been good this year um but if UNCC is able to win that is a win I think that’s going
To stand the test of time winning on someone’s home court the net loves Clemson um I think UNCC what is it EV I think uncc’s up to 12 now in the net and they’ve really risen High um you know I think UNCC would be in line they started determin it today what
Is it January 7th or something they started theer today I think UNC might get like a three seat um somewhere in that range so yeah I think it’s gonna be super interesting I can’t wait to cover it and um we’ll see what happens but that’s what I’ve got it is an event in
Clemson when car Carolina shows up there good thing for the tar Hills is it noon and the students will be filtering back in but if it’s at full throat it is a tough place to play and Clemson of course I think Clemson’s on that thing is when they’ve they’ve dominated in
November in December and they’ve sort of shrunk away kind of like the football team in Chapel Hill late in the season they disappear Clemson is is trying not to do that this year how about that image from years ago of Brad Brownell putting his finger in Roy’s face we’ve
All seen the photo I know our former uh teammate Ross Martin used to talk a lot of track trash about Brad Brown L for his finger in Roy’s face and the fact that he survived I mean Clemson would be terrible and brown L was still there and
I believe Roy’s going like now hold on now Brad you know I think Kennedy Meeks had done something that angered Brad Brownell that night what I think he was talking smack what is uh Meek’s wise or one of those guys wise what is it about Clemson in Carolina that gets the juices
Flowing it’s always a fun trip you guys will be covering it we’ll be covering it inside Carolina Adam and Jeremiah be on the ground are you going to Evan I would not so you will not well you could hang out ATO club which is right there too as
Well while they cover the game but anyway folks check back in at inside Carolina tomorrow Taylor vipis and Joel Barry’s rafter show will be up of course on the beat will be on the podcast feed as well and of course a post game will happen on Saturday I think it’s Dewey
And myself after Carolina and Clemson and of course stay tuned to inside Carolina for all of your basketball football everything there is no offseason folks football is hot basketball is hot and Adam Smith wins the poll at 49% Jeremiah at 31 Evan at 21 work to do
Fellas to thrk everybody who voted for me Adam Adam can thank everybody it’s been a fun night it’s always fun to talk to the people it’s always fun to hang out with you guys it’s always fun to have Johnny t-shirt and congruity as our sponsors thanks fellas
