The chions big yes yes wow Hello everyone and welcome back it’s the full 40 with Chris Trevor and Rob welcome back I’m here you’re here I’m here we’re coming to you live after another villain of a loss um and that’s it that’s all we had for this past week because we did a g we
Did a show right after the Xavier game so see yeah but we have the depal and Marquette games coming up we’ll be back to you we’ll be back with you after the Marquette game that night and uh but I guess why don’t we Dive In First with
Rob like how you doing what are you doing with all this free time well lot lots of things but first of all before we jump into that I don’t know if you guys have talked about this on previous podcast I love the countdown music before we get into this it got me like
In the mood there’s for our listeners who can’t see it this I don’t know whatever apparatus we’re using counts down from 30 seconds got some jazzy music I was like pumped to come on the podcast now so maybe if you guys had that before I wouldn’t have uh I
Wouldn’t have quit but here we are so decisions have been made but anyway it’s uh it’s it’s good to be back um I missed the fans they were clamoring for me I heard there was a lot of fan maill so I had to I had to stop
Back in uh what yeah I know it’s h it’s tough and um I know people loved my hats so I was gonna go no hat but I figured I give people a hat as well um but enough of my rambling I what I’ve been what I’ve been doing I mean Trevor did point
This out I have been tunneling under the city of New York the NYPD uncovered my doings the past few weeks um for those of you who don’t follow New York like I don’t know it was all over Twitter today I think you’re good you don’t have to go into it yeah [ __ ]
Ridiculous um I think we should spend a lot of time on it actually I think no building a tunnel from his apartment to Madison Square Garden so he could cut the line to see uh Villanova St John’s in a few weeks the Nova Knicks I need the direct connection um what have I
Been doing well I guess first and foremost I I have a child on the way so I guess I’ve been having sex so that’s cool uh so that officially one time one time all it takes is one um no I’ve got um Nicole and I have
A a baby girl on the way in a few months so I’ll be pretty exciting for that I heard they’re pretty easy and you get a lot of sleep so it should be pretty cool soly understood with babies I should have some more free time to come back um
After that but yeah yeah so I mean that that’s one big thing um and then other than that I’ve been um I had a weird professional Year we’re gonna we’re going to gloss over part of that it’s very strange but I do have something coming down the pipe which we pipe or
Pike uh which we alluded to at the end of last season it took a slightly different turn but I should have in I think like two months time I think we’ll have like we’ll have an app out in the marketplace and we’ll see what uh we’ll
See how people react to it so should be something cool as well but yeah that’s my free time been having sex having sex once and uh making a nap and here I am it’s coming down the pike if you’re a normal person it’s pipe if you’re a porn star so giving away this
Conversation rails early very early off the rails here sounds like we’re on the rails I like um so Rob have you gotten the CH have you watched have you watched the game so you still so so this is interesting um because I I was going to point out it is interesting now not
Doing the podcast like my perspective on it is different but I have watched all the games um and Nicole and I have watched all the games together but it is different like my perspective on it in general is like I can I’m able to take a
Little bit of a step back from it though I am still very much an alarmist because like what the [ __ ] is our record like it’s absolutely wild like I 40 in Quad One games yeah like four1 po0 in Quad one okay cool cool we’re like a two seat
Baby like let’s go Eric Dixon’s National player of the year and then uh oh the other games he’s not um but yeah it’s been a it’s been a weird Adventure so I guess my my synopsis from not being a podcast host on the regular is still following this team is like just as
Frustrating as I don’t know if just as frustrating as last year that’s probably not true definitely less frustrating than last year um I’m like hope I’m more hopeful of things just because of the upside that we’ve seen that I don’t think we ever showed at all last year um
But I’m still just like what the [ __ ] is going on with these guys like this is not a good shooting team like we just we’re just not a good shooting team and unfortunately our strategy shoot a lot of shots so those two things like don’t
Really go well together but who am I I’m not really a basketball expert maybe let’s start there because that’s that’s I mean look there was a lot of names to the game of why we lost to St John’s um K got out coached we couldn’t shoot for [ __ ] and we didn’t
Play with the level of effort that is needed to play in the Big East home or away versus any one of these opponents So like um so so yeah what point is is like like let’s talk about the shooting a little bit because Rob I agree it’s it’s it’s hard
To Come Away with a perspective other than we’re not a good shooting team because you are you are what you are and we’re 15 games into a season we’re halfway through a regular season and we are just like I mean the the statistics are the the statistics are terrible
We’re 207th in the country in threo percentage 231st per percent in twoo percentage and yet we shoot the ninth most amount of Threes in the country it’s wild absolutely wild and and when you put our combined uh percentages together I know you can’t do this cuz it’s not like effective field goal we’re
Like 300 plus 300 plus plus it’s so bad I can’t even say it yeah like three over 300 in the country so it’s it’s really bad yeah and but the funny thing is is that is that the team is definitely acting as though we are a good shooting team it
Just hasn’t happened yet right like there’s been no adjustments there’s been no ad adjustments to our offense at all that would indicate that the staff Has Come Away with a conclusion that we are a bad shooting team actually I I will say there are times in certain games
When it seems like that when suddenly like out of a timeout somebody will they’ll go for like three layups in a row or they’ll just try to drive the ball down somebody’s throat like three or four times in a row and it’s like oh okay they’re making an adjustment and
Then it’s like no three ball three ball three ball brick brick brick so yeah yeah I don’t yeah it’s like we did it but we can’t learn our lesson or we assume that we’re going to magically get this 3. threep point shooting percentage which this is what drives me
Nuts is that like the whole three-point shooting thing obviously came around Warth the Advent like 2015 2016 as the whole analytics movement shifted towards threes or more war than twos but the whole thing is predicated on being able to shoot well like if you can’t shoot well
The math falls down like it just it just doesn’t make as much sense and it’s not we were we have historically been a good three-point shooting team obviously 2018 was a historically great three shoot three-point shooting team but the past few years in 21 21 was 20 was okay 21
Was okay um the past few years haven’t actually been that great so we’re still applying the same strategy which was was developed you know seven plus years ago and predicated on a team that shoots threes well and now it’s being applied to a team that just transparently doesn’t shoot three-pointers well so
Yeah at some point you got to say we should be revisiting this approach instead of just blanket rolling it out because we won two natties with it if the personnel and the results don’t don’t justify it that you got to change something it’s kind of crazy at some
Point so a good change might be to drive the ball down the lane to the cup for a layup except that we are 350th in the country in terms of getting blocked like we get blocked all the [ __ ] time that’s wild that’s wild one of the worst
Teams in the country so all this is to say we’re terrible offensively we’re really bad offensively I know Kemp says 50c in the country but like I watch it this this team is terrible offensively they they forgot a three 350 second they mean it is it is really hard to
Watch the good news is our defense is really good sometimes um when when they apply themselves and place the effort they are really good and that defense does help offense um when they do get moving and running a little bit but again not something we see a whole lot of um they’re still
Trying to P play at a snail’s pace which isn’t great isn’t great Bob Rob um just because we don’t have the people we don’t have the Colin Gillespie to knock down a shot after burning 27 seconds of shot clock um it it does not look good it was
Really ugly against St John’s um felt a lot like I was watching the St Joe’s game again um St J yeah those sju’s you gotta watch out for them um and yeah I was uh that hurt Burton getting blocked back into the locker room hurt um if I could give an
Anti-alpha dog play of the week or shafit play of the week it would probably be that one hats off to him for putting the effort in and going for it but that was a uh yeah that was brutal met at the summit there and it was a
Loud crash to the and he went right back to the locker room to to stretch out that was just it was it was not a good look it almost something it was like it was a smashing block like oh yeah no he he really just like absolutely stuffed
That back in your face yeah I mean the whole night the whole night the whole day St John’s really just played with much more vien Vigor like much more effort they they just and you show and you saw it down the stretch where for a second I thought maybe this is just the
Program punting on this game but he played Arch like six seven8 minutes down the stretch of that game and it was clear that it was not like a a punt to lose because they were still trying and fouling and doing all the things that you would try and do if you’re trying to
Make a comeback no it was purely done because he they and I actually give them a little bit of credit for this they were so pissed at the effort that they had gotten from the team that he puts arch in to basically say okay well if
You’re not going to try then [ __ ] all you guys like Arch is going to play for for several minutes down the stretch because he actually gives a [ __ ] right so like and and it showed he actually played decent for yeah I thought he gave good minutes yeah he he
Did give good minutes no offense there but there was no offense anywhere so it was kind of hard to uh judge and bomba to his credit was one of the other guys who I thought put a pretty good effort in on his birthday happy birthday but
Like it was a it was a happy birthday sorry your party so lame it was a brutal game uh to watch I kind of though took a step back after watching it there was a part of me that was like this team is going to be what it’s
Going to be like like it is Willie said it before he’s like this is the most eighth seed to ever eighth seed um I think good bracketologists have us around seventh right now but like it just feels like a team Rob I get your optimism from a perspective of talent and what we’ve
Seen we’re g to pick off some people who we probably shouldn’t we’re going to lose games that we definitely shouldn’t oh no to be clear I’m not optimistic it’s more just one of those like it’s one of those like you’ve seen in theory how good it’s funny so when I was at
McKenzie McKenzie interviews and when they interview they test you along certain dimensions and they always what they do is they test you once you hit and like show the highest level of aptitude they’re like oh we’re g to score you you check the highest box so like if you looked at Villanova’s best
Games and said oh once you check like the highest box this team would be like a two seed but that’s not reality so I don’t know what McKenzie is doing but point being like I’m not great in Villanova like that I think this team is like absolutely destined for like a
First round flame out like there’s no there’s no reason this team is gonna get to a second weekend in my mind yeah so let let’s level set there I am not optimistic about gotcha gotcha okay gotcha Rob Rob in our Nova Insider chat about a month ago somebody posted like our
Bubble chances and I was like we’re not talking bubble it’s December that’s sad I was like we can talk bubble February but I was like we’re talking like how things need to fall in December give up yeah exactly you’re losing the game if if you’re counting that closely now it’s
It’s not you’re not on the right side of this yeah it’s terrible but I kind of am resigning my in a weird way I’ve kind of resigned myself a little bit to like this is going to be the most I I said in my New Year’s resolutions for the team I
Said let’s not make this the most frustrating result possible like let’s get a definitive answer one way or the other like if we’re going to suck let’s suck and so that we can make change yes or or let’s be really good so that it could prove that that what we have is
Actually good and then we can move forward with a little bit of confidence going into the next year and I said most likely and the worst possible result is if we just kind of meander and that’s exactly what I feel like we’re gonna do I feel like this team is just gonna
Meander to that eight n game maybe you win it you probably don’t but if you win then you’re going up against the where 2019 Purdue is what’s going to happen to us and we’re going to get slaughtered and it’s not going to be good but like that’s how it feels at the
Moment at the moment could that change of course it could change of course it could change there’s enough Talent on the roster that that that it could theoretically change could the coaching staff be right about their big bet because that’s what it is it’s a humongous bet you’re putting chips in
The middle of the table and hope that you hit straight flush off the the turn in the river on your shooting percentage that like hey we are we’re going to [ __ ] do this and and we are going to all of a sudden start hitting a lot more
Threes and maybe that all happens and if it does then credit to them but it doesn’t feel like it sitting here on January 9th before we’re about to play depal before the hardest five game stretch of the Season it does not feel like that’s GNA
Happen yeah I I don’t what are you and again for our listeners I apologize since I I say I’ve been part of the podcast regularly in terms of what you guys so just cut me off like you guys talked about this all season but like what are we Bank
Okay yeah what what are we banking on for this potential turnaround like is it I mean I just don’t even know at this point like I know B like talking about you’re like big on longino but like I don’t know L just kind of makes a lot of
Bad decisions and I don’t know disappears for times like what is it the Hope has been regression to the mean but unfortunately we’re seeing that the mean is a lot worse than we thought it was um so everybody’s saying everybody’s banking on like oh yeah like the the three-point shooting will level out
But the level is much much much lower than we anticipated um it’s uh that’s what I can say at least like that’s that’s been kind of the calling card all that you know we joke about regression to the mean but the mean is bad to the mode
Now yeah I’m just like I’m like looking at looking at like player by player and like granted a lot of guys are down on their three-point percentage on this year relative to other years like how’s down Dixon’s like down significantly like he’s down four more volume you know
Yeah I guess yeah yeah yeah I mean that’s fair and then his defense like what did he take like 20 shots last year yeah so this is his first real down down four like well they’re all down they’re all shooting poorly no I know I’m I’m
Not trying to you know give anybody a defense here it’s just been miserable but just Justin Moore hasn’t done [ __ ] the past few games like doesn’t even show up like I just don’t understand it gu [ __ ] not doing anything it’s ridiculous I do think that there are
Some like things that can be fix but if you’re calling card if what what’s the hope that you’ve seen so far that is actually repeatable that the team can do is when the team plays with good effort as we talked about the defense is really good the defense is is borderline Elite
When they play with great effort so if you can get that effort time in night in night out you’re at least going to put yourself in a position to win some games so that’s the that’s the that’s the Hope right to like to that that is based in
Some level of reality that we’ve seen so far now in terms of like what the what the program can do what Kyle Neptune can do what the coaching staff can do to actually potentially see better results on the floor from a shooting and other perspective is I I think we’re at the
Point in the season where the the rotations need to get cleaned up like like the minutes allocations need to get tightened up he like we we’ve belabored this point on this podcast several times about it just being way too willy-nilly guys getting pulled out after two
Minutes after you know from the start of the game no one’s in a flow Etc I think Kyle has to I think Kyle to the chrin of someone or multiple people on the team is going to have to start cutting minutes differently and I also am at the
Point at this moment in the season where I think that we need a starting lineup shake up um obviously more comes back that’ll shake up the starting line line up a little bit we don’t know when that is going to be although some people think that it’s going to be on the road
Trip um um with uh or sorry on the road trip to Marquette but but the but but forgetting more for just a second just placing him aside I think the starting lineup needs to shake up and I think where my head’s at is that hakee Hart
Who has been really good from in a lot of different respects I think he needs to be in the starting lineup over Tyler Burton right now and that’s that’s not a [ __ ] talk necessarily on Tyler Burton not yet it’s more of a good comment to Hart but Hart is outplayed him yes and
If you’re just going to take Hart if you’re just going to take Burton out of the game or someone else out of the game after two minutes of putting heart just start heart right like get him into the flow of the offense get him going right away uh from the
Onset finally if you’re not going to have or trust Mark with a starting role on this team then when Moore does come back I think Lino should actually stay in the starting lineup and I think Moore should replace Mark and again not a comment at Mark I actually think Mark
Would Excel and helped this team a little bit more if he was that change of pace guy off the bench like I mean rob you brought up the 2018 team and obviously this is not the 2018 team but like Divan chenzo was to the 2018 team where he came off the bench for
Sometimes Brunson and could move the ball differently was just a different totally different change of pace obviously Corey fiser on the 2009 team played the Six starter role and he was a change of pays off of Scotty Reynolds and like I think that that is what this I I
Genuinely think that’s what this team needs is they need to bring the speed boy off the uh Off the Bench to change the pace up a little bit that that those are the concrete things that I think need to happen that to in order to actually get some benefit here yeah you
Can’t have you can’t put mark on the bench though obviously until Justin’s back because otherwise like yeah the level of creation on this team is lacking not even creation just getting the ball past midcourt now we’re not even talking creation we’re talking getting the ball into the offensive zone
Of the Court like we saw what happened against Xavier it was pathetic um the loudest cheers of the night were when Kyle finally gave up and put Mark in to handle the ball the last minute of the game like it was just ridiculous yeah it’s so yes agree on all
Those points Chris um I would say either Burton or longino should probably lose their spot to Hart when he when um Hart and Justin um if you want to keep Mark in there if not leave lino in he does that thing where he’ll take like six turnaround jump
Layup hybrids um yo what the [ __ ] is that decision making not insane like absolutely insane he has to start playing like a quarterback um um show that toughness that got yeah yeah no I so that’s just like his go-to like when we have no offense he just
Dribbles into the paint picks up his dribble and pivots around until he can force up a Lup and I think he and Mark are both better suited just that like one dribble into the arc pull up mid-range game um you can somebody can look up the numbers if they really care but just
From the eye test like that ball goes in the hoop um and the other way around we get blocked so it’s um I don’t know I’d rather them Miss jumpers then get blocked on layups yeah it’s like it’s almost like a bastardization of the uh the jump stop strategy right like
Villanova for so many years got credits like oh you drive into the lane you jump stop you pivot you dance all around like and Brunson still gets credit for that in N because he does it like a [ __ ] boss right and now it’s like we kind of
Lost the teaching element of that and it’s just like driving in the lane what am I doing I don’t know but I’m gonna turn the ball over like that’s not the same thing like not at all he just kind of forgot the the important half of that but okay sure the
A lot of this does again it it’s a lot caused by the fact that we’re a terrible three-point shooting team like the backd Downs in the post one of the reasons why that works is because you can’t necessarily double up on a guy who’s in the post a
Guard in the post because the threat is that he could pass out of the post to a wideopen three-point shooter but but when you [ __ ] suck at three-point shooting like then you’re going to get doubled down low which is going to Force turnovers like we’re the offense that we’re playing which this is
The other problem is that we’re 15 games in which we we know now that we’re not we’re probably not a good three-point shooting team almost definitely not a three-point good three-point shooting team the problem is is that this is how we’ve practiced this is how this is how the entire team’s built everything’s
Built around this so you like how could you just go out and wholesale change the offense right now like you really can’t so a lot of my a lot of my Solutions if you will are based in like Rhythm type stuff where hey the the seven eight
Players who are actually going to get real minutes on this team get them the real minutes on this team so that they could establish some Rhythm and hopefully just on Rhythm alone you start to see a one two thre point percentage lift in threo shooting which would still
Place us as not good but uh but that would be a a hell of a lot better and we probably would have win a couple more games in our schedule had we been one two three points percentage wise better at three-point shooting no it’s true I
Mean like if you look at you check the scores on it but you know if you reduce a couple of those longino drive into the lane turn it over or we’re just like taking up a dumb contested shot and you convert those to a couple points just because there’s some better decision
Making there’s a little bit better flow then a few of our games have just been decided by you know a couple possessions so I think there’s there’s some validity to it does it solve all the issues no absolutely not but yeah I think it’s certainly a logical thing to do at this
Point yeah and to be clear that’s not just a longino thing like everybody does it it’s just a Longo thing I don’t want yeah no it’s it’s found our villain yeah somebody tag him right now uh yeah but that’s just like the way that things have been going and it’s just not
Going well um I’m like sad today I don’t know yeah it it’s so weird because if I told you at this moment in time in the season before after the UCLA game but before Big East play started that after four games of the Big East we’d be three and
One in conference and at least tied for if not have the best record in conference you’d be like okay that’s good I’d probably sign up for that except most frustrating three in one to exist and and that’s exactly what this whole team has been this whole season it was the most frustrating uh
Six and four team that I’ve ever seen in my entire life yeah um look Friday versus depal would should present an opportunity to get right we’ll talk about that a little bit but something’s got to get figured out soon because because that five game stretch and we
Talked about this this is like we’re we’re almost to the finish of like the first quadrant of games being done quadrant so may be a bad term but the first layer of game whatever you want to call it the first trunch of games being done that second trunch at Marquette
Home versus Connecticut at St John’s at Butler home versus Marquette there is a nonzero chance that the team goes 0 and five in that stretch well that would be good non nonzero if the team hon I really mean this and we we talked I know I’m just I’m agreeing
With you I’m I’m laughing through the pain I really mean this if the team goes two and three in that stretch Color Me optimistic because because two and three in that stretch would actually be a very good result because kenpom has us losing kenpom has us losing the first three of
Those games Marquette Connecticut at St John’s beating Butler and Marquette away and home by one a piece so there’s so those are two coin flips so so be we being two and three in that stretch would actually be an improvement above what kenpom with the with the statistics
Play out three and two in that stretch would be borderline miraculous um and so something has to get figured out offensively and suit I mean you could defend the [ __ ] out of teams till kingdom come but but that’s what Virginia did back in the day and
They lost to a 16 seed in the first round so like if you can’t score the B the ball like you’re gonna run into trouble when when is Justin coming back I think you may have said this earlier and I just wasn’t pay there’s no official word obviously um there’s never
Anything until he uh suits up but the rumor that I heard is Monday against Marquette oh wow okay that’s a rumor unconfirmed source is dead to me if it’s not true what what what did he actually do see this is now you’re getting the perspective of the fan who’s like
Casually paying attention um knee sprain I don’t know nothing again nothing official just that’s what that’s what I thought I was like I the vest [ __ ] ever he’s just hurt where where [ __ ] [ __ ] ego’s hurt he he got hurt on Tuesday December 5th where four we’re basically a
Full-blown five weeks yeah we are we’re exactly five weeks from the day when he got hurt and and there has been no news other than he’s dayto day sorry being out for five weeks is not [ __ ] not day to day ab like look I if you’re gonna start getting frustrated about
That we have a long history of Villanova basketball to discuss like that’s how they handle every injury um Phil Booth when he sat an entire season with tendonitis or whatever it was and had to get the surgery rting and it was day to day he was reging day to day um so you
Know well he also got that non-co related illness that nobody really wanted to talk about yeah he got sick menitis like what are we talking how serious is the disease that he clearly yeah um everybody was getting sick last week after New Year’s maybe maybe he had
A uh a crazy New Year’s party and uh everybody super spreader non illness called Theon virus virus IX party where like you get your kids together that have chickenpox and everybody gets it dude Brian you’re dating yourself nobody gets chicken pox now really we no because they all they all the
Vaccine thank God Rob’s here we could start talking about vaccinations and science um we’re not getting vaccinated out here on the main line bro that’s a New York thing yeah Bill Gates shooting all the kids up don’t get me about your 5D cellular service yeah 5G bats yeah that’s why we
Dig tunnels yeah I was just gonna say the grounding is real the tunnels are real the 5G is real um anyway welcome back to the full 40 conspiracy theory podcast uh do we want to hey that [ __ ] gets listens by way do we want to add break real quick before discussing dep
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The jacket yeah show me the vacation show me the jacket um but yes the uh the bomber jackets are still hot uh the dad hats are hot everything’s everything’s great use that code they have a bubble stripped bomber jacket yeah it actually looks [ __ ] cool did you did you look
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It and then he’s like I can’t find the jacket so I give it’s literally there yeah I I blame him for that um I you did what did to me where he told me to read his tweet I looked at it for one second go oh that’s funny he goes you didn’t
Read it it’s like no exactly might have put my it’s not the first time I’ll put my foot in my mouth here and it is certainly not the last dude I might buy this Yukon one this plus they just won the National Championship again last night I don’t
Know if you saw but all their fans were celebrating that Michigan won when where they won you know where we won Michigan I mean Yukon fans last night were congratulating themselves on winning at NRG Stadium while Michigan won I don’t understand I know neither did I but they
Were pretty cool jacket I’m not gonna lie cool jacket imagine rocking that to your like just actively proove yeah well no it’s uh Mikey from the bar um yeah you you were wrong Mikey sorry um anyway back to reality so depal yeah we’re not gonna I mean we’re
Not talking we have to win we have you gotta win you gotta blow them out you gotta show up you gotta be loud um just effort and energy from the start will be an improvement um God they’re terrible again really this is much has changed they are B Rob they’re borderline the
Worst team ever been in the conference they almost beat Georgetown the other night I know I saw that Georgetown sucks too holy [ __ ] yeah yeah but like I feel like depal the past few years has been like oh flirting around 500 they usually get you know they give themselves an
Easy noncon they come in they’re like oh we’re hot these guys just suck yeah they’re really bad holy [ __ ] it’s now uh like big EET has two bullets in the chamber now because it’s Georgetown and the Bal yeah it’s also really weird from like a from a uh perspective of of
Bracketology because at this very moment a lot of bracketologist have as many as seven Big East teams in the in the NCAA tournament because of Sean Hall’s like somewhat miraculous schedule early they had a they they scraped out a win tonight versus Georgetown before we jumped on
But like but like it’s been a borderline miraculous appearance so far beating Yukon and Marquette at home and winning at Providence um so Satan Hall has jumped all the way into the bubble conversation and on the right side of the bubble as well St John’s
Is like kind of with us like similar uh area to us in terms of being in tournament 78 type seed and then and then you have you know you Yukon and Marquette and kraton are all are all solidly in um and then I’m forgetting
Who the other one is off the top of my head Providence of course so like right now at this very moment you have seven Big East teams who are um who are like right there for the tournament Xavier and Butler are are like outside looking in pretty I mean pretty significantly um
And then you have depal and Georgetown so like where kind of comes to is it’s super roulette Trevor to your point is that is that those teams have to have like Trev like you really the biggies kind of needs depal and Georgetown to have one win a piece and that’s vers
Each other at each other’s home court like it it basically needs sorry what that’s like well no they both okay I I was like well somebody’s going to win the game Chris uh yeah they both need to go one 19 I understand yeah yes me a second like
This is the helpful part of having like a really bad drag on your conference is that if they can effectively lose all their games then they then that actually becomes a help because everyone gets an extra W and everyone goes home happy and they they would have done their job for
The conference whereas if depal and Georgetown start winning games that’s actually terrible like it’s that’s that’s the worst possible result for the conference because Xavier and Butler are going to beat teams like we might lose to Butler but like like Xavier and Butler are going to are going to beat
Teams because they’re good enough to win so what what ends up happening is that is that you can’t have the you can’t have the cannibalization Come From The Bottom it has to come from the middle that makes sense conceptually I I get what you’re saying I what you’re saying have you guys
Talked about [ __ ] I don’t want to spend too much time this isn’t a cool yeah let let’s I’m happy to talk about mean oh God it’s not a good first year it’s not it’s not looking great so far like I don’t know if he’s mailing it in
Or what but like St should look at a real Coach like Kyle Neptune it feels like traces traces it it it feels like Ed coie came in and said well this is a this is obviously a god- awful situation right so like I’m gonna punt
On this year and we we we’re going to rebuild the oldfashioned way right like type of thing which is hilarious because Ed kie was portal guy number one Numero Uno going into getting hired at Georgetown and so if I was a Georgetown fan I was thinking to myself and having
Talked to many Georgetown fans I was thinking they were thinking to themselves we got the portal guy he’s gonna come in and bring all this talent in via the portal and we’re GNA be I don’t think anyone thought Tournament level year one although it’s kind of weird because patino was expected to
Make the tournament in year one but Ed Coy was not he’s a good coach yeah but like but like it’s a fair point um but they definitely thought that it was going to be a somewhat competitive team like this team could potentially be like a seventh in the Big East type year
Eighth in the Big East type season you know if they if if cards broke the right way they would have won some games been competitive you know they still have a stretch run have but like down the stretch actually start picking teams off and and showing signs of and showing
Signs of life for the program that has not happened that team this team has been this team has been straight out bad it is very clear that they had no intention this season of being any sort of competitive because Ed Coy didn’t fill out the roster that was that was
Like the big thing he didn’t fill out the full roster he’s got like five six walk ons on the team I might be exaggerating a little bit but I’m not exaggerating much so so like they don’t have enough players like and they had some injuries Jade neps got hurt Etc
Like they don’t have enough depth like like on real basketball players not not just depth from like a talent standpoint they have enough depth from real basketball players to actually like take on that many indust um injuries they they stink whatever it’s enough time on Georgetown it’s Georg toown you want you
Want have we talked about I yeah I want to talk like I wanted to allocate like a minute or two and Georgetown sucks and [ __ ] [ __ ] sucks in his first year so [ __ ] him let’s go [ __ ] yeah um that game that he goes back to Providence will still be the highest grossing ticket
Sales of the year I think um outside of like a Taylor Swift concert in the amp but um it’s uh yeah it’s nice it’s it’s good to see it’s good to see the uh the conference win one there just like everybody feels good about that I think
Um but we have a real game on Monday which is marquat uh yeah what are we feeling like here we’re gonna have Chris nataro in the building yes as as per usual he is always almost at always at that Marquette game boots on the ground look
I mean with Marquette you you kind of know what you’re getting because they’re rolling basically out the same team that they had last year um minus omx Prosper more questions this year though like last year we were all pretty certain that Tyler K could read um this year that’s been drawn into
Question more than once it seems good old dangly sack from Providence Twitter just ruining that guy’s whole night Rob did you follow this story at all I think I saw a little bit of it a pretty Niche story I I think it would we would do our
Listeners a favor by going into it a little bit do it educate so I don’t know exactly how it all started but a guy I could tell you how it happened how it started at least and then you you can come in with the Providence bit so um Marquette tweeted
Their uh their team GPA as it’s always a great idea to do that and saying how we had this many players above a 32 or whatever pick whatever three 0 whatever number you want to say and they had pictures of a lot of the players that had it but they didn’t you know
They had eight guys or nine guys above a three but they didn’t have room in the graphic for eight or nine guys and one of the notable uh holdouts was kic so somebody was like Tyler kic can’t read and he replied to that tweet with a
Somebody being a guy by the name of dangly on on Twitter replies coic bites and replies with a picture of his uh transcript for the oh God what and that devolved into it took you know this many credits and this long for Marquette to teach you how to read okay all
Right and then Chris you could take it from there it just went back and forth and because he bit like you knew he saw it and there was a bartoo article about it oh God and then it became and then he was at Providence and it was it was
Right after their break started but like I don’t know they they call the students staying a little extra call quote unquote the stay yeah they all it got everyone amped up and they all stayed and so the student section was actually wild even though it was a break game and
They were all giving them hell the entire game and they absolutely throttled I Providence went by 15 at the end I also today I saw it was probably the same guy I saw a tweet of a a picture of a koozie that said Tyler K can’t read did did they did the student
Section do a you can’t read chant because if they didn’t that’s just like a absolute Miss definely some things It’s gotta be it’s it’s such a great chant you can’t read so can he read I has he confirmed that like a chapter of a Harry Potter book or something somebody tweeted from his
Account so somebody who has access to his account can read you can voice text you guys know that reading because he posted his transcript and people pulled it apart because it was like basket weaving and like all the crap [ __ ] classes so people were all over it so anyway yeah never post your
Transcript so we’re playing on better than the old vova player website oh my God last Clark clar his cat’s name my car rer looking for it’s not anymore you can get like a cash version yeah you could you can find somebody who has referen it it’s like it’s pretty good somebody’s
Like it’s like historically great websites like athlete websites it’s it’s archiv somewhere so so so Monday we’re playing the Derek Zoolander Center for kids who can’t read good golden eagles and who want to do other good stuff too um maren Eagles Tyler Co obviously is the headline player oo uodo has had a
Has had a really solid year um and cam Jones has also been really good I mean like it’s it’s it’s like pretty much the same Marquette team they’ve gotten some additional you know contributions from their deeper bench guy named Ben gold a 611 guy who could also shoot the three
Um who’s been who’s been pretty solid for them uh they’ve had uh you know David Joplin has been good so like it’s it’s it’s like the same team that that you’ve seen from last year coming off a loss Hall a close loss to Sean Hall away
Right it was yes but they do play Butler tomorrow okay okay so we have a a a cleanser in between so hopefully uh they use that for their Revenge game and then um our defense and energy travels yeah we know our offense is gonna travel no our our offense travels it
Just it’s nonexistent so like you bring a zero where it’s still Zer Fair we little better on the road we are better on the road here’s something you haven’t waited on uh a Marquette fan uh kind of came at a Yukon fan saying they had a better
Season last year because they won both the Big East regular season title and Conference so as a fan of a basketball team would you take the double Big E Championship Over The Natty I mean obviously I come from right school if we play for all of the titles uh Thanksgiving tournament title regular
Season title big title and then if we’re lucky we get into the tournament you know that’s that’s not what we play for though play for the accumulation of titles and we just want to be the best that we can be so Marquette was the best that they can be more times than Yukon
Was the best that they can be so therefore Marquette is the superior team it’s just it’s just math I I did see a Marquette fan attack a Yukon fan last week by being like you’re not Elite in the conference you finished fifth last year I was like this is just so good
Like thank you it’s it’s wild because the Marquette fans keep hammering it and it’s dumb as [ __ ] they are so serious too yeah take your W and your L and go home like you got your you got for conference title which you’ve like never had before that’s great like just go
Celebrate it and shut the [ __ ] up don’t insult the team that won the National Championship like you have you have nine other teams in the conference to choose from yeah it’s ridiculous is um very reminiscent of I don’t know how if many did this but Sean Hall fans being like
Oh well we won the Big East tournament that like we hit the most famous shot in the history of college basketball yeah or they say they final four in 2020 I mean Co stopped them right I mean what do you expect from Marquette they let 88% of the people who apply into the
School they can’t we are uh we’re really hammering the academic mud because we have nothing positive to say no we all think that we’re gonna lose this game at Mar on Monday I just I can’t say it um I will continue to make incorrect predictions like to be clear we’re gonna
Lose right like yeah we I mean look it’s some who isn’t me might say that yeah it’s not like there’s like a clear pattern in Marquette losses like they lost to Purdue on a neutral Court which is obviously excusable they lost to Wisconsin all the other games that they’ve lost have been away
They got they got hit pretty hard by Wisconsin and Providence away Wisconsin’s actually really good Providence in that mini stretch before Bryce Hopkins got hurt was really good um and Satan Hall obviously has been a stretch where they’ve been playing really well um so so like but there’s no
Like oh you slow them down from a Tempo standpoint whatever Rob are you okay man what’s going I’m sorry I found I found a website that had some of um some of the description of Shane Clark’s website I’m like I’m like talking about the game like not saying anything funny
And Rob’s just cracking up I’m just cracking up sorry um yeah like they haven’t like there’s no like P like oh you gotta slow them down to win like we will slow them down the pace against them yeah like you you do have tool I mean well look the only
Like the glimmer of hope we have is that potentially Justin’s coming back that game that should shorten the rotation that should help with the rotation by maybe taking minutes away from people who don’t necessarily uh need that many um but it could also bring us back to the hockey
Shifts I you know I I don’t know Marquette Brian Marquette was was better last year than they are this year in my view at least from a regular season standpoint I think they’ll I think they’ll break through to the second weekend this year like they they should have gotten there
Last year I think they just got had like an all World bad game and worst time for it that being said like we actually played them decently tight in both games last year obviously there was the New Year’s Eve game last year at home where
Like we were right there um but but the but the Rob I [ __ ] hate you but the game away we were also in that game all the way until like the very end where I think they free throw and executed down the stretch to get like a nine-point win
So like you could kind of harp on that like last year’s worst team for us and their better team like we we still held our own away so if we control Pace like the game should be relatively close and if you make plays down the stretch you
Win a game I just don’t see that happening um if they beat Butler at home we beat the Paul so that we can both cleanse from the other from the recent losses and it’s kind of like a fair play game on a you know a midday game on
Martin Luther King Day yeah anything can happen but I’m not counting this one for a win yeah I mean I was pretty flipping about us losing like obviously we’ve beat some good teams like the potentials there you know we’ll see what Justin coming you know Justin obviously is
Difference Maker maybe coming back if he come even if he comes back you know he’s probably not going to be in game shape realistically or you know he’ll be in game shape for 20 minutes instead of 30 or 35 so I don’t know that what you’re
Going to get from that so the upsides there I don’t know that we’ll have all the pieces clicking there so I don’t expect a win from that if you know if Justin was back for you know a week or a week and a half at that point and he was
Kind of worked back into the rotation I may have a different answer uh but you know that’s not that’s not the case Katon outstrips Marquette by one spot on Ken palom right now so there you go there’s your hope there’s your hope kon’s a little bit better per Advanced
Metrics than and Marquette at the moment and we beat kraton at their place that’s all I got super strange super strange and you never know if Tyler Cola can see that the shock clock is going down because he might not be able to read numers you can’t read numbers either oh
It’s amazing so yeah so this is the this is the interesting because we’re on the border of the of the of the two TR the first trending and the second TR so look if we get to four- one in this trunch here we beat the Paul
Right like we’d be better we better beat the Paul and then you get to and then you get to um you get to the the Marquette game if you win that game and the Outlook does change a little bit on the season or you can allow yourself some
Some visions of grandeur if you will because then in that next stretch you kind of have to go 500 down that than that four game stretch a difficult four game stretch and it takes a lot of pressure off that’s that’s really it like you beat Marquette at home like
You’ve pretty much taken a ton of pressure off or sorry at their place you’ve taken a lot of pressure off the season because you’ve got to get another big time quad one win under your belt and can and can and that by that point with five quad quad wins you’d already
Have the quad One resume to make the tournament and so then go out and just win some games and actually improve your seed line that’s all we do we just win quad one quad One games just that’s the Hope right the hope is that we’ve won
Quad all the quad One games if they pull this out against Marquette the the meter immediately flips from distr back to cocky um and just to get hum by over to it’s we so back um so again I I don’t know how we would be able to control the
Pace really without uh without Justin back and and effective being back we don’t know if he will be back so it’s just a a lot of who knows um really not much to lose here um except our perfect record in Quad One games but I don’t know it’s uh
It said it definitely like like we said with the after the kraton went if if you here it sets you it sets us up nicely to kind of like you said take pressure off the back end of the schedule and then you beat Marquette one out of two you
Don’t have to beat Yukon one out of two you know it it it takes pressure off those other games and and kind of gives an opportunity for um for some mistakes and bumps in the road down the line I do have a couple of um I do have a couple of points that
That you could point to they’re offense they’re not a great offense they’re not a great rebounding team um nether yeah right correct that’s my point is that is that is that some of the advantages that other teams have exposed like Xavier down the stretch St John’s obviously
Like like they’re not a great rebounding team we have a size I believe we have a size Advantage at most positions um so if you so theoretically if they’re not hitting their best from a shooting standpoint which they’re not actually the best three-point shooting team either they’re actually just a
Smidge better than us from a three-point shooting percentage they just take less of them which is smart and intelligent if you’re not a great three-point shooting team um they are really good at twos really good two-point shooting team and they and they’re a decent free throw
Team not bad you know what this is setting up though Chris our game plan is gonna be let’s make them shoot threes and and they’re gonna make 54% of their thre oh yes of course so of course now that we’ve spoken it into existence but stylistically point is they
Stylistically should not bother us too much they definitely play a little bit uptempo but we we deal with that so like like it’s like a practice in the Davis Center against you know a team versus B team right and the dick like player by player like the Dixon igodo matchup
Like I take Dixon but like you know because he’s my guy but I’m sure a Marquette podcast would say I take a Garo but like Dixon’s been better this year for sure um and if Justin’s back then that can hopefully neutralize kic a little bit more um It’s The Supporting
Cast after that where I think marquette’s got a bit of a leg up they get better contributions from from guys like cam Jones and Shawn Jones and Joplin so we’ll see obviously an even match on the Sidelines between Kyle Neptune and Shaka smart so well are they the sidelines or
Are they uh yeah yeah good point extended yeah absolutely it was it was pretty funny I had to explain uh to the people around me why patino getting called for that uh I I called it encroachment um why he got that warning for being on the court was so funny to
Me because he was maybe like a foot on the court where Shaka played like an entire possession of Defense a couple weeks ago insane um so that that was funny so yeah if you haven’t seen it for the listen keep Shaka on the bench yeah
You have a chance dude is like yeah if you haven’t if you haven’t seen this clip like go check it out because Shaka is basically like you know coaches like up and down the sidelines but so The Possession comes to their half and he’s basically I don’t know ball swings to
Like his sideline he’s basically in the face of whoever was handling the ball it was Shan it was Tor it was ridiculous and he was like moving up like up and down the court with him I was like what the [ __ ] is he doing it was crazy like
Waving his hands all around like he does and it’s just like and somehow he got a pass on that I I don’t know how it’s kind of weird there’s bad [ __ ] yeah whatever um do you guys do you guys do heart monitors still uh we can can one
In a long time yeah we actually have not been we’ve been focused on yeah let me shoot from the the hip a little bit here J brunson’s been absolutely unbel a multiple time player the week since we’ve last talked about multiple time player of the week he might have
Had a player the month um if I can’t if I’m making that up I’m making that up but um would be the first timecast they just blew the Trailblazers out tonight Jaylen had a lower scoring night than usual just because they were up so much
So he didn’t have to play but he should be an All-Star um if not a starter he’ll definitely be a reserve um he’s probably going to be a reserve just cuz like not voting much and I know that’s only 50% of it but he’ll Jaylen Brunson
Is an All-Star this year um Willie would want us to mention that Dante has been playing better since he’s been slotted into the starting lineup he had a big night a couple games ago male bridge is over in France right now trying to drag the Nets to
Relevancy um they’re playing the Cavs in in France tonight uh and and wait are they really yeah yeah yeah oh realize that I don’t know why the Spurs didn’t go over but um seems like a so yeah that’s has kind of a shot at an All-Star
Nod I would say just the votes aren’t the fan votes aren’t there I’m saying so so there ends up being a ridiculous number of allst stars every year due to injuries um sustained by the selected group so I think if it’s a bad thing to wish but male has an outside chance of
Being selected as an injury replacement to an All-Star just because um you know if an East forward goes down or something like that they’ll say Okay M Mel Bridge has been playing great it’s it it’s kind of like a career achievement to this point too just
Because he was so solid last year too um and I think he’s someone that they would want to try to uh bring in as they kind of Select like these nextg players to try to bring in for these injury Replacements um so he has a chance um playing well double but double last
Night or two nights ago I can’t remember everybody plays for the Knicks the Knicks are are doing well this season yeah the heart monitor is easy it’s just the Knicks and the Nets Knicks are doing well the Nets are are male’s playing well um cam Whitmore is putting together
Like a list of bodies that he is just obliterating uh in his fast break dunks and broken play dunks he’s been playing really well in space for this uh Rockets team that’s been a surprise so far this season um averaging 10 or 12 minutes a game
Scoring that if not more um he’s an offensive machine which is really cool to see him playing in space and and just like the the added speed of the NBA is is really uh beneficial to his game um trying to think who else whatever it’s a
Brun it’s a Brunson sh I know I know Brunson is the 13th leading scorer in the NBA like 13 is like a random number but the fact that he’s top 15 in the NBA is absolutely absolutely absurd he’s also top 15 in assists and he’s leading the [ __ ] biggest Market in
The country and he’s basically like the I don’t know like all the Knicks fans are just like all over him absolutely insane he’s he’s literally his face is all over MSG he’s legitimately like look no one’s Derek Jeter but after Aaron judge he is like
The the the face of New York Sports like yeah after him and Zach Wilson and then it’s yeah yeah Aaron roders Aaron roders wasn’t because he’s the face of the Pat McAfee show other than the guy who sits there and doesn’t [ __ ] talk the entire time Charles
Oakley no but but yeah no bl’s right like Brunson is basically it in New York Sports right now yeah he’s just like he’s [ __ ] amazing exactly as we all thought it would be first of all I absolutely I absolutely did not I was totally wrong
On this I I will ad Julius Randall uh Jaylen Brunson Jersey left to right I have the with their jerseys the whole 911 move hanging up at MSG was smart my God RJ Barrett I I don’t I did get a Brunson Jersey for Christmas actually which is
Fun um I should have worn that tonight I don’t know why Nicks or Mavs Nicks I got the Nick okay I don’t know if you got like an old one no the the Mavs ones I was gonna get a Mavs one years ago but they were always they were dumb I was
Waiting for them to do one of the Retro Ones um for like one of Dirk’s years but they never chose that they’ chose like really dumb ones for their City Edition so I just skipped it and then when he came to the Knicks I was like yeah like
They went to their classic ones obviously is the city Edition one cool I’ve never seen it no the city Edition ni One I don’t like this year I just got one I got their um pretty basic I got their um their away one basically they blue one this year so it’s like pretty
Like pretty standard kind of classic Nick I’m glad we did a heart monitor segment but i’ be honest that I’ve actually Shrugged away from the heart monitor segment because the program it’s so obvious the program is like every time Nick a Villanova guy in the NBA
Does well like they’re all over it from a social media standpoint which is like good but it’s it it comes across to me like very much like oh look over there which is this Villanova that’s actually happening now and it’s true and it’s what I do too when if we have a
Rough week it’s like well I can go watch you know seven or eight guys play in the NBA and I don’t care if they win or lose it’s just more fun that they are winning but it’s just nice to like you know it’s cool to you know Sadi Bay is is starting
For the Hawks right now Jeremiah Robinson Earl is getting minutes for the Pelicans um Germaine and Colin are carving up the g-league just like they shouldn’t be playing down there but it’s just like a minutes thing um and uh it’s it’s a nice escapism uh you know option to have I
Saw four people in mix jerseys at a Nova game which was frustrating but I again Bing Bong I still I still I still want to know who hurt Colin last year in practice because like that person’s terrible I can tell you offline yeah um but the funny thing that
We talk about jerseys and and heart monitors and everything um the first time that uh I became aware of Rob was that he and my dad sat either next to each other my dad sat right behind him at a pavilion game and Rob was wearing a
Josh har yes the Lakers jersey yes and he walked in sleeveless with the jersey with his like briefcase over his shoulder and I did get some commentary from my dad about it um I was I was quite I was quite vocal that game we sat like in the yeah we were like right
Behind Father Peter and like said hi to Father Peter before he definitely gave me a couple looks during the game too like really dude like yeah so that’s that’s mine and Rob’s red string theory I I was working that game um and my dad was texting me and he’s like some
Guy just came in you know it’s cold outside why is he why does he not have a jacket you know c i because I can yeah I remember went to Madison Garden game with Rob and he just kept yelling dirty dirty dirty dirty was awesome I started
Then doing it too dirty’s a great chat for sure I also had something CHR I had to leave yes Chris I had to leave with like three minutes left to the game and we were we were they were coming back St joh and he was refreshing his phone on
The train and not talking he’s like [ __ ] we’re gonna [ __ ] lose I really thought we l that game we already left like we were up by like 14 or something and he was like we’ll have to wait an hour if we don’t leave now I was like
All right let’s leave now and then just he was so angry on the train I quick side note about that Lakers jersey I wore it to I think it was I don’t know the year or so after Josh was like drafted obviously out the Lakers and we
Didn’t have as many guys in the NBA then I remember a couple people were like why are you wearing a Lakers jersey I’m like are you [ __ ] stupid like we have like two guys in the NBA and one of them play for the Lakers like the [ __ ] do you
Think I’m wear in a Lakers jersey for anyway still bitter about that I don’t forget nope whoever you are you’ve been called out that’s right unrelated I have to text my dad tell him I say hi I did it I’m podcasting with the guy who wore no
Jacket he wore more clothes to the podcast than he did to the game tell I said dirty yeah says hi too as we wrap up here uh Rob how’s it feel being back on the show for a little bit it was very fun I enjoyed my guest appearance um my continued lack of
Education I think uh I felt better about it not actually hosting I could just kind of pontificate it was great and enjoyed uh some more alcohol consumption on during the week which I haven’t been doing as much so tomorrow morning it’ll be be interesting sleep will not be good
Tonight but was uh it was fun to come back on I hope to do it again soon awesome all right uh that’s all we got we’ll be back after the Marquette game and uh and we will yeah after that we’ll we’ll talk about the games to come
Versus uh Yukon and St John’s so we’ll be back with you next week thanks everybody for listening and as always let’s go Nova
