Billy Nelson SLAMS Heavyweight Division On Martin Bakole Rejections, Reveals Offers Turned Down

Boxing Social’s Louis Hart spoke to Billy Nelson, which this video was brought to you by FreeBets.Com, Empire Fight Store, Forged Irish Stout and Ready To Fight. He broke down Lewis Crocker vs Jose Felix, with the potential that Lewis shows in the gym and what his ceiling could be, with massive domestic fights in the pipeline and world honours. He spoke about adding to his stable with Sean Lazzerini joining his stable, with also the future of Sultan Zaurbeck and what makes them so good in Kazakhstan. Billy spoke about Martin Bakole and the frustrations with him being in a big fight, with some potential news coming for him soon.

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0:00 Intro
1:00 Lewis Crocker Back Out In January
2:15 Keeping The Ball Rolling
5:00 Crocker Getting Better With Better Opponents
6:00 Learning from McKenna Fight
6:30 How Far Off Is Lewis Crocker From Big Fights
9:30 Sean Lazzerini Joining The Stable
11:00 Sultan Zaurbeck Next Fight
12:40 What makes Kazakhstan Fighters So Good?
14:30 Martin Bakole Not On Dec 23rd
15:30 Big Fights Brewing For Bakole
17:15 Urgency With WBA
18:10 Boxxer Situation
19:00 Will the tide turn for Martin Bakole?
20:50 Proving Martin Bakole is the Best?
21:25 Derek Chisora
22:20 Francis Ngannou Skipping the Queue
23:15 Anthony Joshua vs Francis Ngannou
24:10 What’s Next For Deontay Wilder?
25:07 Ending

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We need to think of a new advert for freebets.com get your best betting offers from freebets.com yeah that’ll do the following deals are now live this is leis ARA boxing social association with Empire fights St and forged Irish Stout delighted to be join with Billy Nelson it’s the the Christmas

Has come has gone New Year’s gone um we’re finally back on on business in January um how’s things mate how are we how have we keeping was good mate uh had a nice uh nice we break 10 for my my wife recharg batteries 10 days over there the nice

Relaxing time came back next morning back at it again um only had Christmas day off uh this week I think it fell on a Monday so I thought just get him the Christmas day off and then back in in Boon then we B back and ever since absolutely definitely I suppose we’ll

Get on to uh onto sort of being back in and being back busy in January you got a fight right at the end of the month Lewis Crocker takes on Jose Felix in a massive massive fight for Lewis I’m excited to see him kicking off the year

Early in in a big fight again being in the main event well it’s fantastic it was thr today to get out so quickly Lewis is a he’s a gym R you know he appreciates how how important is to stain a gy now compared to the times where he was injured and he

Was inactive that must have been heartbreaking for him but since he we’ve been very fortunate since he came here February and March he’s had four fights and this will be his fifth fight and you know in a 12 months period so anybody gets 12 decent fights in sorry five

Decent fights in 12 month period is doing well and we’re very thankful to mat in the zone for asking the headline of Shan Belfast again where he’s got a a very big fan base and the fans over there are extremely knowledgeable and for someone like Lewis

Who he had a statement win against tyon and McKenna and you know tyon McKenna retired after the fight so for himself to keep that ball rolling and putting his name out there after that statement performance must be an important thing that as you said he’s a gym rat and the

Ball was keeping on rolling after previous periods of inactivity definitely uh he’s H like I say he’s throw to be back in a gym he’s had a couple of spars last week he’s already at it last week doing the damage and uh he’s got some very good Spar on the next fortn nights

We has so uh he’ll be he’ll be Bang Bang Bang Bang on for the 27th of January and when it comes to someone like Lewis who he’s in a stack division in the welterweight division and for yourself you’ve always said you know he’s one of the especially in the UK he

Is the top dog he is one of the best so it’s important Prov he’s the best he’s the best and important that you see what he puts in the gym and you see the training and the sparring important now that we’re seeing that and he’s proven

That well of course I I mean it’s a it’s another step up the ladder with the next opponent one I think I know that he’s more than capable of uh taking care of of Lewis has needed activity and he he’s learning he’s learning on a weekly

Monthly you know on a monthly basis in a gym his confidence is rising when I I mean it was the same when I when I had Ricky buns when Ricky buns came to me after he lost for the second time for the British title ER against KY

Johansson he came to me and his manager done a fantastic job with him getting them uh many fights in a very short SP space of time so what I was trying to develop into him he was managing to H replicate in a fight yeah and and and he

And he and his development went through the roof get he get better and better and better and then when he won his first title I think it was a commonwealth title at yor call against an African his confidence went through the roof and look at look look what look

Look what he achieved three time world champion it’s all you know every every when I box wins title The Confidence should go through the roof and like I said he’s a very very clever fighter everybody knows Crocker punches like a horse yeah but he’s very very clever he

He sets great traps he’s also got a great defense but people don’t give him credit for I mean if you watch his head movement his lateral movement against tyone defin gravy and I was good to say that so when you talked about the guys be like Ricky Burns being a champion he

Got better and better when what we could see with Lewis is you know when the when the big fights do come and these titles come um we you know what we see now is only a fraction of of how good he really really can be well well the thing is the

These these fights will stand them in good stad see 10 Rounds against Tyrone stand them in good stead yeah most people that get hit with those shots yeah t don’t get hit with would go to sleep watch that one’s got you you believe me when I tell you

Everybody that that Louis SP leading up to that fight either stopped or dropped yeah yeah and that was and that was with 16 o gloves are yeah you know so for with eight gloves oh my goodness that body must have been bits for days admitted on his podcast was that shows

You how Brave stupid he is you defitely is it is that a good thing though for Lewis where he he gets these rounds in early that sometime as the levels go up they aren’t always going to be you know one sort of within sixth round blowa aways you’re going to fight

Guys where no matter what got like special Breeze like Tyrone no matter what you throw them you can’t really uh get moving well no no no it will hurt people because yeah even more even probably even more so when it goes to the higher level because they guys will

Come out to sh more than what P did yeah yeah definitely and and when it comes to Lewis um it is obviously 2024 is a big year for him after the the McKenna fight but how how far off do you feel like he is from the big fights and the I know

That the the world titles are a little bit tied up at the moment but when you look at World titles or big domestic fights as we said guys like Conor Ben and this and that um do you feel like those are potential potential matchups as we see towards in

2024 God Wen we get through this fight and look and look impressive against Felix Felix uh uh I know I know uh you there I’m sorry I know 100% Conor Ben was what to fight and Le L CR Le would take that fight next yeah why why wouldn’t he why

Wouldn’t he yeah of course of course yeah definitely just uh ju I you know I was gonna say like do you feel like like when it comes to I’ll guarantee you right now that leis Crocker would be the hardest and and this is no disrespect to

Conor but it’ be the best name on Conor Conor Ben record maybe no best name because he’s fought light wel away X Champions etc etc that are over the hill but the most live opponent yeah and would there be would there be a worry for you where um he you could feel

Like Lewis may be avoided until he has titles and until he has a bit of Leverage in his name guys like Conor wouldn’t would want to take the risk against him a big puncher like him but what is Conor bringing the table what what titles is he bringing to the table

I suppose he’s got he’s got the name nothing Bri title yeah I suppose he would have the name what name was Conor Conor Nelson would have been the same position he has now say sorry can you say it again a name doesn’t win you fight but I I suppose when when it come

To I suppose when it came to like maybe a promotional standpoint or promotional point of view they may not want to put ponor in that direction well he’s with a in promot why not I just trying I was just yeah I’m I’m not saying I wouldn’t want to see it

I’m just saying it like trying to trying to trying to play Devil’s Advocate a little bit here um I know Devil’s Advocate I know list L we’re not calling it Connor Ben or or be in any way shape or form being disrespectful to Conor because he’s a fine fighter but if they offered

Conner Ben to Lou Crocker it’s an immediate that would be an immediate yes I’m sure if if ter that’s Jamie Jamie con who did a fine job we lose as entirely up to Lewis but an Lewis but have that fight in a heartbeat I’m in no way am I saying that

Lewis wouldn’t want that fight at all no way would I ever doubt that I’m telling you would yeah AB definitely and and just sort just sort of quickly moving on I did see you added a a new a new man stable Sean lazarini um Commonwealth gold medalist um excited to see him turn

Over in the pros with yourself well he’s a he’s a friend of Luke bbby and he asked he went through Luke to ask me about t for train him we sat wait sorry we spoke on the phone he came in gy and he seems to be loving it and so

We we’ve teamed up and that boy that boy can punch gold medalist but he can certainly cracked we working a few technical flaws but once once or he’s going to be good good and when you have guys that turn from amate to Pro and they sort of transition into

That style how important is it and and when it comes to different Fighters how easy is it for some fighters to transition from amateur to to the professional sty generally with the the level the level of international experience that Sean’s got he’s got a a very good boxing

Brain and they should adapt quite quickly just most take guys at his level will take on board very quickly just this guys with less am experience it take a bit longer it doesn’t mean I’m not going to be a good F us that’s completely fair enough I was going to

Ask you about Lee McGregor um obviously was unfortunately got injured uh in the December fight against Isaac low um not with me anymore okay okay no worries sorry about that he’s moved he’s moved on Al oh okay sorry mate sorry mate sorry about that um I suppose that’ll be

That’ll be a quick quick move on there um you mentioned about sorry about that yeah mentioned about um talking about your man Sultan zbec hopefully you’ll be back out in the the start of the year after impressive display in November he’s fighting March the 2nd against a very very good opponent uh

Very much looking forward to this fight uh he’s returning back to Scotland on Saturday and we get to right for seven weeks seven eight weeks and when it comes to someone like Sultan as well where oh s again sorry sorry sorry when it comes to someone like Sultan who is

Such an exciting Talent as was mentioning there with Lewis where it comes to you know proving that you are such a great talent you feel like we could see that from Sultan especially this year when he’s being active and he’s fighting loads and everyone can see that the talent that he’s got on

Display the G’s a he’s got a good giving Talent it’s frightening the skill that boy got and huge credit must go to the the Kazakhstan amateur H coaches over there they must be fantastic coaches who don’t get the credit that they deserve uh no he’s number I think he’s number

Five or six for the WBA and he’s in another couple of organizations top 15s so this year’s a big year for suan I’d love to see him on the verge of fighting for a well tit at the end of this year certainly run about an Eliminator or fin

Eliminator status by the end of the year would hope and when you mentioned there about sort of um the kazaks and the USCS and we know how talented those guys are what do you think it is about people from that region especially in in the Olympic level that turn over and you see

Golovkin you know yanc and all other fighters from that region that that make them so gifted and so talented I honestly don’t know because I’d love to I’m going to go over to Kazakhstan and maybe you know when I’ve got when I’ve got some spare time about H go misses

And just and look at the look at the training techniques that they do over there because see see if it see if it was more westernized and the the TV companies went over to uh like usbekistan Kazakhstan etc etc they boys wouldn’t have to come to the west to to

Apply their trade or America you know they’re all having to come away for the countries which is a shame but I suppose that’s just the way it is unfortunately but the the the the the the training and the programs must be fantastic and something that

Uh that the West could look at and and and replicate definitely I agree with that I think I’m always sort of of the opinion that there is so much untapped potential and so much untapped Talent there and when you see the transition come over especially when you see gos

Like sulan and you see how well golovkin’s done and he shows that you know I’m sure that we can probably learn a lot from them guys Well’s he’s his very good friend is I think he won the Bantam World amateur championship and he wants me to train

Him after the Olympics next year when when I think he’s favorite to win that as well the boy for Kazan get a nice get a nice contingent there from get get a nice contingent of the in Scot well they they’ll be they’ll they’ll be speaking better English marak

Be well we’ll we’ll move over we’ll move on now to to the big man um Martin boli um obviously coming off the back of of a really really impressive win on in the October card against Carlos takam um unfortunately wasn’t on the December

23rd card was that sort of a a bit of a frustrating thing to see not seeing Martin on that December card well there was a can the the occurrence of his his injury slight and he swallowed that I swallowed that and right so he lost his voice for

Well and also uh he’s an ambassador for the uh conges govern government and H there was an election in Congo presidential election and he went over to support his uh president just prior to Christmas before the election and I think he’s going over for two or three days when the the results are

Announced very very soon so it was preoccupied as well but one of those things was there some positives though you can look from that because obviously I know the the Wilder fight is always something that you talked about that you wanted for him and I know it’s unfortunate now that Deontay Wilder took

A loss but when you look at obviously there being a lot of heavyweight Talent on that card it’s also it could be a positive thing where it could let fights marinate sort of let fights play out and we can now see him in potential fights against guys like AGC cabel Daniel deire

Um you know even Joseph Parker and AJ potential big big fights for Martin well three of those four have been offered the fight and have said no and so my head off he the most avoided heavyweight in the plan it’s embarrassing it’s embarrassing the amount of guys have been off Martin said

No and everybody abundantly clear everybody talks about fight Hunter get the rematch against Hunter why would we number one but ranked in a in a WBA fight somebody that’s unranked yes of course we want to make make the wrong or right of course we do but what why would why would we

Why would we do that when he goes and beats Hunter he doesn’t he doesn’t improve his position anymore what Martin needs is a final Eliminator an Eliminator regular title or interim title one of those four thing he need something that yeah push him forward no stay I we’re going we going beat Hunter

Knock out Hunter beat Hunter play whatever ever the case may be we’re in the same position as what before we fought him we want to move forward no no sideways or back away you mention sorry no no sorry carry on carry on no I was because you said

About there with the him being the number one in the WBA what is the situation um would you like some some urgence with the WBA for a potential final Eliminator or even or even the manual Char fight because we know he is the regular Champion to try and almost

Force yourself in a position the that people can’t turn it down well Manuel Manuel CH was offered the F was offered seven F the fight and knocked it back I suppose that that’s that’s really that though sorry that there about with the with the sort of the urgency from the WBA would

You like urgency so um things that could be play so Martin can be almost sort of mandated into a big fight you’ll hear very shortly what’s happening and I did did just want to quickly touch on the uh the promotional situation with Martin um we do know that

He is um he’s obviously liked over in Saudi the Saudi sort of w him back in there for for a big fight but he was obviously promoted by boxer um is there any sort of plans for him uh to headline shows with boxer and Sky you need ask

Boxer okay that’s fair that’s that’s completely fair enough we’ve got a fre fight deal with Bo and uh it’s still ongoing let’s say and for for an ideal timeline when it comes to someone like Martin um when would you like to see him back out and

When would you think we could see him back out we know that there’s the March the e card there is the February 17th card um could we oversee him in in one of those two ones he’ll be out in March definely completely throwing off um and

When you look at 2024 for him coming off the back of the attam win um and you said he’s the most avoided heavyweight on the planet and that must be it must be frustrating for you but could do you feel like we could see the tie turn in

2024 and him being in big fights pushing on for these World titles the T will change this year on once once he wins the world title once he wins the world title they want him yeah you know and then then we’re in charge we can be selected to extent but looking at

Everybody in the WBA everybody in a WBA he’ll beat everybody for one to 2 to 15 no problem and when it I know people always like want you to be patient in his opportunity but do you feel like the patience is wearing Finn because you talked about your frustrations in in not

Being able to get big fight and that must be frustrating although you want to stay patient that you know there’s only so much you can do before the patience does wear fer with Martin wanting to be in a big fight well when we beat T we beating

Olympic well it was very much gender doog against Tony now all the Hypocrites come out after the fight and say Tony’s nothing now you know he nothing could Martin beat him but Martin was a a big Underdog in that fight B of them went over there and won nine out of 10 Rounds

Easily and it took nine months nearly nine months to get a promotional deal for him which is ridiculous ridiculous yeah and we had many we had many offers took nine months yeah I was gonna say I was gonna say that it must be sort of frustrating where you you you’re

Obviously putting the fape in Martin um but you know as as a said there’s only so much you can do where uh where people always you know people like other fighters in the heavyweights may turn their back when you believe that you can beat them you aren’t always sort of able to prove

It we I believe Martin could be any heavyweight even Tyson on his on his on his best night I believe he could beat Tyson other than that I believe he beats everybody yeah absolutely definitely just if he’s on his a game he’ll beat everybody it’s not he could beat every

He will beat everybody because he’s more he more Ted than them all yeah absolutely definitely and sticking on the top dere dere said African Fighters don’t get the opportunities to fight for titles blah blah blah blah blah why is he not about to fight with Martin M several times come and fight Martin

M hello we’ll we’ll fight you no problem no problem whatsoever he’s African M’s African believe it or not for Congo that state so he is African come and fight Martin give him a chance he stated that people don’t get the chance well why didn’t he give them a chance because

He’s I mean he must be look after that that last performance against was who was it was it Charles Martin no it wasn’t Charles Martin who was it or Washington oh oh yeah Washington yeah come and come and fight Martin the way you thought Washington will not go two

Rounds one one thing I did also want to ask you about is um when it comes to someone like Martin who you’ve been wning the opportunities for him is it frustrating when you see someone like Francis and garu come in and you know and have have who hasn’t had any

Previous boxing experience he’s able to you know mix it with fighting AJ next fighting Fury next um is that a sort of a frustrating thing for you where he’s managed to slot in and getting big fights straight away as I said as he comes from MMA he’s a big big name in

MMA it’s good business sense for the fighters to make a lot of money it’s PO for boxing and it’s [ __ ] for the people the boxers that have been in box all the life and they’re in the top 10 15 of the world seeing people get get these opportunities but listen I’m

I’m um Martin’s manager as well if somebody approached me and off of me tens of million to fight in Ghana you’re going to say I of course you’re GNA say who wouldn’t honest I did want to ask about AJ versus Ando I know you sort of just briefly touch your thoughts on it

There but what do you make of that fight potentially looking on March the 8 between the two the two heavyweights well I fully I fully expect him to knock him out I beat him very com Fury won the fight against Inu but it was I think I think people’s

Expectations onu were very low and he raised the raised the bar extremely well and he done extremely well but Tyson’s level of performance was poor and he’s freely admitted it so we might have a better idea a better idea against the AJ now if it goes the

Distance with AJ people can be so slous against Fury’s performance against inana yeah and then stop him yeah I I also did want to watch you Wilder um not there’s not too much on on what his future may be they’re talking about him potentially taking on jile Jang um what would you

Like to see for Deontay Wilder next do you feel like he he he should box again he could box again after the Joseph Parker fight no not after that no he’s done he’s done he’s done extremely well work fighting the elite Fighters and when dead fight the elite Fighters they get beat

Yeah but do you feel like maybe he may carry on or he may carry on his career because he he sees himself as such a big puncher such a knockout artist that is what will keep him in in the SPO will be ego and money that will keep him in the

Spot people people who say they care about the boxer should be sitting down him and saying listen you’re a very very wealthy man you never need to work again Generations your family will never have to potentially enjoy your retirement instead of getting hit in the

Face just as we uh just as we close this interview off um I did mention earlier in the interview that 2024 is a big year for you you got Lewis potentially in big fights Martin in potential big fights Sultan in potential big fights how exciting is this year for yourself if

You’re stable where how you know it could be a massive massive year for you could be looking back at the end of 2024 with you know all your fighters in amazing opportunities and if not had an amazing OPP two days of course I’m look for it I mean

We’ve been very lucky we’ve not lost a fight since the hunter fight which was October 2018 so long may it continue that we we get success breed success and each the you know I only bring guys into a gym I want to listen learn and develop you

Know what I mean um I I’ll train them to the best of my ability and if they can fight to the best of their ability I’m confident that they win the fight it’s not about Billy Nelson and Billy Nelson’s gym it’s about my Fighters winning that’s all that matters to me

It’s not it’s not about me or my Jim it’s about the fighters they’re they’re the they’re the people in boxing yeah of course of course Billy want to say thank you for taking the time to speak to me always really really good to catch up with you

And uh um speak to you mate I really appreciate all the best for a couple weeks time in Louis Crocker mate thank you for taking time to speak to you m appreciate it oh