Matt and Dom hear from the people on Kevin Kisner’s turn in the broadcast booth at The Sentry, and bat around some other names that could/should be picked up for coverage.
Kevin ker was in the booth for NBC Kevin ker I know Dom you put out a he put out the tweet that you have on the board he’s smiling behind it which I think kind of shows I mean I think it shows the good nature of Kevin kisser doesn’t
It yeah absolutely I agree I think he’s he’s seen more as sort of the every man if you will I think folks would put him more in the even though I think it might not be the exact right moniker I think Blue Collar is a is is is something that
Fits a little bit more than analysts in the past and so I feel like maybe the audience is a little bit more connected or feels perception is that they feel more connected to someone like Kevin kizner who’s you know always hanging around with the bar stool guys ain’t no
Hobby appar all this other stuff that’s right so I do think that the general consensus on social media from what I saw was pretty positive reaction from folks I think people I’d like to hear that I’d like to hear from our from our own group uh but that tweet today’s
Hold on one second’s question was about Kevin all right hold on one second I just want to make sure that we pay off that tweet he says I think they’re going to let me come back tomorrow so to all who had the over on me May making it
Past day one go to the window and collect which again just speaks to that uh I don’t know if it’s an every man nature but I don’t think he’d be offended by that by that assessment otherwise but he does connect with people he’s a good guy okay so what is the
Question the question is what did you think of Kevin kizner in the booth during live coverage and then I gave folks three options I said you could write in with your thoughts he’s perfect it’s one of my options they have to keep looking they just got to keep looking that was
Another option I would rather there are just no announcers all I need is the natural sound and some leaderboards I don’t want anyone talking anyway and then you’ve got people writing in right now early early in the running folks 43% are saying he’s perfect oh he’s
Perfect and then 14% of the people would rather just watch the the coverage with no announcers by the way that’s where I am on this list I I would prefer to watch golf with no one talking I don’t I don’t need anyone telling me anything I’m happy to just watch the golf and
Just give me the graphics so I know what what whole folks are on and where they where they stand in the in the leaderboard etc etc uh we got a couple po couple folks chiming in Paul says is kidner not playing anymore I do not believe that is anywhere near the case
Understanding is that my my understanding is he’s still trying to play a full schedule but he’s I think he didn’t he sign on for a handful of events I think between now and June he’s doing a chunk of events right I haven’t actually heard how many he’s going to do
I haven’t heard anyone officially say that but I do know he’s doing more than one but I haven’t officially Heard It generally when when networks do this it’s whether it’s spoken to or not they kind of treat it like a special guest and thanks for being here with us but
It’s generally treated like a tryy out to see how somebody does and I’m glad that people like the job that he did I I think he’s definitely learning um for me what I what I look for in an analyst is I look for the analyst to tell me something that I otherwise wouldn’t
Know and and it can be it can be in Union with the person that’s on the ground I think Smiley coffin was there I think John Wood uh we’re both working on the ground I’m not sure if there was anybody else in missing the reason why
It’s it’s hard for me this goes to what Don was saying that’s why I was kind of laughing and shaking my head as Don was talking about no announcers is I’ve told you guys this before in our family room I have the two televisions I have one
One above the fireplace and there’s one that sits kind of on a credenza and that the the the second one is the big one that’s where Donna tends to watch her shows what we had football on that one and on the other one I have the golf so
For me I most of the sports that I watch there is no sound because there’s a competing source of of information coming and it’s generally one of Donna’s shows that’s how that’s how we find the domestic tranquility there in this case it happened to be you know football game
And and you know all all the rest that was going on in the world of sport there was a lot and there is a lot going on in the world of sport so for me the most important thing are the graphics and I liked the leaderboard being up as as often as it
Is right and I think sometimes some of the networks lose sight of the fact that your host may be saying you know so and so leads by one or so and so leads by two or blah blah blah is three behind or whatever it is but I think they
Forget that people aren’t always listening to the sound and again I mean that with all due respect which it may sound ironic to you because you know that I host life coverage right right I but I get it I’m a realist my feeling is is that when you’re putting together a broadcast your
First priority has to be how does this look in a bar right because in a bar you can’t hear it if you’re if you’re at some you know ale house or whatever and they’ve got a zillion different TV screens and you’re watching all the different games
And the golf is on one of them you can’t hear a thing so that information visual information is really important and I like the leaderboard I kind of had the kind of had a live look I would like to see Liv’s leaderboard even get a little bit bigger on the
Side not comparing it to the one that we had yesterday just of its own because they use about if you look at it you know a regular size flat screen I don’t know what that measurement is that way if it’s but it uses about 2third of it
I’d like for it to extend even more give us more information and when it’s way out on the edge like that it’s generally not covering any of the primary action anyway so I like the direction that that golf is going with all of that so but when I’m listening to an analyst I’d
Like an analyst to tell me something that I don’t know I I can’t tell looking at a monitor or when you’re home screen I can’t tell what direction the wind is generally unless I can see the flag I can’t tell u i don’t need for me personally I
Don’t need an OnCourse person to tell me that the shot is dead on the flag because it’s impossible to tell when it’s on the you can tell if it’s online but how many times does shot come up short or is it or is it sail passive
Flag long and and the analyst is like why do you feel compelled to tell me what the future is just tell me what the presence said I mean it goes back to the quotes that we heard this morning from Chris Kirk which I thought was great kind of deal with the
Present and the present I love to have an for me I’d love to have an analyst tell us what we don’t know what’s a person thinking right now if you know or or suspect what do you think they’re feeling at the moment what are the options that are before them that’s a
Big one to me whenever I’m working with an analyst it’s one of the things I love to have an analyst tell me what are the options hit a low little running draw smash this thing up there in the air and let it float whatever it is and I
Realize it’s circumstance based but what are the options also and it’s closely aligned to that is given again circumstance but in particular here given lie how will that impact the decisions that need to be made you know is it a downhill lie so it’s going to deloft the club as an
Example you know is there is there a tremendous amount of humidity in the air is it cool Will is a course playing longer than it will later in the day when the temperatures go all the all that kind of stuff that that we C we wouldn’t know that’s the kind of stuff
That I think is really cool and then if and and this was the thing that I thought kids did a pretty good job of because I I did get a chance to watch quite a bit of it of because I wanted to hear how he was doing he kind of let us
In and what I mean by that is is like what the players would think about something like did you see the video Dom did you see the video of uh Chris Kirk in batting practice did you see the video of Chris Kirk yes did you see the video Chris Kirk hitting a golf
Ball Lefty did you see that one I did yeah I watched a lot of the coverage this weekend and then did you hear Kid Say with particular the latter one with him hitting a a lefty shot oh that’s a driving range that he put in on his
Property that’s the kind of stuff we generally are never told because because it kind of gets close to dude’s got enough property that he can build his own range on it right and they’re worried about offending delicate sensibilities that are like oh showing us traing of luxury they’re professional
Athletes he just won 3.6 billion he he could cut the grass and and and hit golf ball so I just that that kind of stuff I thought was really cool what are you hearing from the people though what are they saying well let’s check in on the
Uh the numbers are going up 44% say he’s perfect they really like Kevin kizner we we’ve done a lot of polls over the years on this show and it’s pretty rare it’s usually kind of split on these polls especially when there’s four options 44% for one option is quite High give me the
Percentage on the option 12% say they’d rather have no announcers at all 19% say they have to keep looking and then the rest of people are sort of writing in on their thoughts we’ve got people commenting one uh MBT 3 I gotta I’m there’s so much comments
Coming in I got to try and find it but I remember NBT 3 wrote in uh I think he was the first to comment on kizner uh on kizner I’m not sure if I watch enough with the volume up to even really know how good he is so that’s
Someone there again speaking to the point of I’m just watching on mute and I and I and I said earlier that on social media I got the sense that kizner did well and people liked him and the reason I said it that way is because I watched
It on mute I was watching the NFL and all the playoff implications on my on my big TV and me and my little boy I had on my phone in my lap I had the golf so I could constantly look down and see what was going on in the golf but I didn’t
Have the volume on I was watching volum volum on football so I heard nothing so you said oh you see the Chris Kirk video yeah I saw the video but I didn’t hear what anyone said about anything I was just watching the golf oh K was he was
Laughing about I saw everything I just didn’t hear any didn’t hear yeah he he was like it was it was a typical kind of locker room thing it made me laugh because he was laughing it wasn’t it wasn’t like oh he just got trilled I hope he’s okay
He was openly laughing he got drilled and and here’s the thing were you s you have 19% that say keep looking Kevin was up there with with it with it was Hicks kizner and Byron I believe and my feeling on it is okay maybe it’s a question of how you
Define this thing for example you know NBC has the rights to the open NBC has the rights to the US Open uh obviously Ridder cup so what I’m getting at is they have events that are very very high stature events I could understand if somebody said no you know what if it’s a
If it’s a major then kid is what one four times I believe if it’s a major it should be someone that’s at least knocking on the door consistently or has during during some part of their career at major championships or won a major championship blah blah blah you know I
Could see someone saying that but does that mean that there’s not a role for someone like kiss and and to that point my mind almost goes back to almost the house on days of CBS when they were broadcasting the PGA Tour where you had the likes
Of you know take for example like a Ben Wright where he was given the latitude to wax whereas now I think that television golf coverage is fairly it fits it fits a formula right if there’s if there’s comments made that are anything beyond you know downs and yards it’s it comes
From the main Booth where I think when you’re talking about someone in the field we’ve somewhat lost the eloquence you know the the lineage of Henry Longhurst or or Ben Wright that I’d like to see a little bit more of in the field to give us context
To give us perspective to to to read the clouds not just always for maybe maybe that would change it up too but but even having said that I could see for again what I just Illustrated Kevin was part of a threepers main Booth why does it
Have to be host analyst why not do three and do three wide so if you need that third person that has the ability to tell us what it’s like when you’re putting for a four-footer to win a major championship we can get that perspective too but we
Still have the younger guy and the the guy that can laugh and tell us the stories that’s I I think it was a very healthy move what do you got Don I’ll read a few more comments coming in but then I have a thought it’s going to be an unpopular thought okay you’ve
Never had one of those for this no no no uh going head to with the NFL week 18 is not easy Chase says that will be reflected in the ratings no doubt I’m sure Sean says kiz is way too young and way too good to be in the booth already
Wayne says I thought he sounded pretty good Neil says the best I’ve ever heard on a broadcast was Phil Mickelson Bob says uh I think kizner is doing just the first couple of events because he’s in the field this week obviously yeah the the and there’s more stuff coming in and
We’ll get to all of it the comment I have about the booth stuff here we go and it’s almost a question to the audience and a question to you Matt is I don’t understand why golf can’t get the best of the best in the booth and I don’t
Mean that as a shot at kizner what I mean is if you watch baseball you’ve got John smt you’ve got Alex Rodriguez you’ve got Pedro Martinez you’ve you have absolute Hall of Fame alltime stuff you watch the NBA Charles Barkley Shaquille O’Neal like absolutely like top 10 players in the history of the
Sport Hall of Fame big as it gets the hockey the NHL that you know who they added to the coverage this year Wayne Gretzky he’s up there in the halftime thing talking non-stop the absolute best of the best it it it always since I’ve been watching golf for
The last 15 years I don’t think I’ve ever seen someone in the booth that everybody would generally say is oh they’re top 10 golfer in the history of the world guaranteed it’s always guys that have won a couple Majors or sometimes it’s guys who have just won a
Chunk of events and have a good personality or have been out there a long time and they know a lot of the guys whatever it might be my question is to you and to the audience is why there’s I guess it’s a two-part question the first is shouldn’t it be one of the
Top 10 guys and then the second one is how come it’s not because everyone else is doing that is that a fair question mat no it’s a good it’s a good observation it’s a good question but that just illustrates what makes golf different the all of those leagues that you just talked about
Unless the guys play on a Wednesday night in an oldtimers League there is no Senior League Golf has a Champions Tour so these guys go off and play on the champions tour for the next hold on a second they’re going to they’re going to make way more money on television
Than they would on the champions tour really why do you think they play the champions tour just for money or is it that thirst of competition I mean other than notably like Nick falo who didn’t play on the Champions to where he tried a few times didn’t play
Well but then the next question I’d have for you is okay who’s the target you got tiger you got Phil guys who are you just heard someone comment that Phil is the best it’s just that you were talking earlier about perspective right you were talking about
What I want you saying what this is what I want in an analyst well someone who’s a top 10 player all time has it all they’ve played all the team events they won a bunch of Majors they don’t you know what I’m saying but who is it oh I
Don’t know they tried he’s Hall of Fame they tried Davis Love the third Davis didn’t like it it didn’t it wasn’t for him right if you if you go with someone like a multiple time major Champion a Hall of Famer record career a hail Irwin Hil Irwin’s in his 70s now because he
Had such a great career on the Champs tour who do you grab tiger I think I can can I throw some names can I just throw names yeah all right I think pH they they everyone saying Phil Mickelson obviously lives going on this a big train wreck
Whatever but reality is Phil would be great he would be great we’ve all seen tiger especially during the Genesis he hops in there he does a 30 minutes he kills it tiger would be great I think Lee trino would be great I think Tom Watson would be great I think whoa whoa
Whoa whoa now wait a minute wait a minute the whole move here is to try to get voices in the booth that are more current you got Lee Chino in his 80s you got Tom Watson in his 7s we had great careers in a chance where’s that coming from what do you
Mean the movie is to get current what are you talking about what do you think they brought in Kev all the all those guys I named those are all like Way Beyond their Prime they’re not getting current guys they’re getting guys who know what’s going on who know the
Situations who have been there and everyone respects so you want you want to bring in Lee Chino in his middle 80s and and Tom Watson in his 70s no I’m just you asked me to throw names at I’m looking down the give me real names don’t just throw names don’t just throw
A spaghetti against what you mean those are real names I think Tom Watson would be great I just asked you do you want Tom Watson in Lee you’re like oh I’m just thr names I I’m just spitballing well I think I do think here all right
Let me boil this down in really simple terms here I would rather I would rather have someone like Tom Watson who has eight majors and 39 PGA Tour wins and God knows how many US teams he’s been on and Captain and Etc I would rather him have
Me giving in give me him giving me insight and telling me what’s going on than almost anybody else he literally knows what he’s talking about across the board whereas you have other guys out there and I’m not going to drop names but you’ve got guys sometimes what no what you are
Literally dropping names that’s all you’ve been doing this whole I’m dropping names I’m dropping names for the analyst I’m talking about guys who have been in the booth in the last 10 years sometimes you’ve got guys that have single digit wins or haven’t been on the American teams or haven’t won any
Major championships telling me what it feels like to to be down the stretch at you whatever major they they they don’t know they don’t know that’s why you have Wayne you’re not listening to got sha on the table telling me this is how you lead you’ve got Shaq on the panel going
This is how you lead the the league in scoring this is how you build the championship team he can answer those questions he knows same thing LeBron you pick the B do television you think would he or does he would he um end of his playing career think he would
Yes I think he would a lot of these guys first of all they make Stupid Money they can make as much money as when they were playing and it’s an easy gift it’s a really easy GI as much money what oh they make tons of money you know how
Much money Charles Barkley’s making right now I can look it up but it’s a bajillion I heard yeah I think so Charles is making a lot M making so much money I mean so honest about everything when when Liv was was courting him I think he basically said they got to do
More than 20 million or else I’m not interested I I read that maybe I’m wrong let me give a couple names I think lny Watkins would be great I think Davis Love would be great I think Ben kensaw would be great Ernie Ells would be fantastic Tom Kite would be fantastic
Nick price would be fantastic I mean I got it’s a nice laundry list of names I’ve been throwing out at you now are those guys current and are they best friends with the guys on tour do they know what’s going on no but that’s not you’re not in the booth to be best
Friends with the guy you’re watching on TV you’re in the booth because I disconnect I’m having my head shaking is that other Ernie El’s is the youngest guy that you just went through in that entire list he’s the youngest the average age of all the other guys is 70
Plus right I don’t see them doing it I just don’t see that happening I’m not opposed to the idea the only thing I’ll the only thing I’ll concede which is interesting it’s a wrinkle that I did not consider is when you said the champions tour because you
Are correct and all these other sports all these names I’m throwing out at you none of them have the option to compete competitively to do anything because once their career is over it’s over and in golf you don’t have that it’s a different situation so that’s a fair
Point but I still think I would rather hear from Tom Kite or Ben kenshaw than a guy in his 40s who just finished on the tour who’s got a third the number of wins and no Majors unless the guy’s got some credibility what what are you hearing from the people what are they
Saying uh I don’t know give me a second juggling 16 balls at once look at me go hold on all right hold on a tiger would be boring LOL kiz was fine but he’s just a sidekick I prefer multi- major winners he’s a good putter but never a great
Player he was fine but there are many better other choices John daily would be awesome but you’d have to worry about him showing up uh you know uh not true Dom the minute Tiger goes to the champions tour in two years he will receive higher ratings and
Purses to the PGA Tour you’ll you’ll you watch you’ll see uh the job is not easy lots of Prep Prep work hours getting there very early and being there all day it’s tough work NB3 says I think it depends on who it is I would argue that someone like Charles Barkley is really
Not doing a lot of leg if you watch basketball like I do he gets players names wrong all the time which is kind of funny it’s kind of funny but it’s also like is he even watching the games but again he’s there right he’s there to
Tell me what it takes to be an MVP in the NBA he’s not there to tell me that I’m best friends with Devin Booker that’s not what he’s there for a kissner is perfect for the job cam says uh let’s see here so much stuff coming Travino is awesome
But he tells too many way long- winded slightly fabricated stories that a great comment LC says I hate when Dom and Matt fight we’re not fighting are we fighting I don’t think we’re fighting I feel like we’re not fighting uh John Daly would be good I
Didn’t say John John Daly by the way I want Jack he’s hilariously fun just get buo Weekley to go with kid current hilarious and knowledgeable again it’s it’s like a do you want people in the booth that are going to make you laugh that connect with you that feel fun but
Really don’t know what it’s like to be playing in a major or down the stretch in a major or what it takes to win 10 events or do you want the guy who’s won seven majors and he knows how all of it works and he knows what it takes and he
Can answer all those questions I guess I guess my answer to you is y yes to both I think there’s a role for the for the Kevin kers I think I think it was good like Andrew beef Johnson is doing Sky Sports he they love the job he’s doing
Absolut Bubba Watson here Bubba would be good bubba for sure Bubba’s perfect Bubba would be great there’s a lot of Bubba here interesting yeah Phil Mickelson padrick Harrington padrick Harrington’s a good one he’d be good Steve he’s killing it [Laughter] yeah uh yeah there’s a lot there’s a lot
There’s a lot coming in I mean I I I think it’s a fascinating discussion I I personally for me I would rather have like a Tom Watson type in the booth is he connected to the guys on tour right now not really but I I don’t I don’t
Need someone who’s connected to the guys right now I need someone who can diagnose the swing problem also personally I like someone that is critical right and someone who’s connected to the players is very unlikely to say something negative that’s something that like Barkley and Shaq do a lot is they’re very critical
They’ll say this player is doing X wrong they need to fix it or the reason this team is failing is because of these three reasons because of this player and this scheme or whatever it might be you rarely see that on golf you’re not going to see someone who’s connected going
This guy’s having you know a lot of is issues on the course because this is what’s wrong with his swing he’s not listening to his coaches he’s not he’s not putting he’s not grinding you know off the course to do what he needs to do they rarely say those things because
They’re connected to these guys they’re they’re friends or they know a guy they they’re not going to say that stuff and I think that that’s a layer to a broadcast that is necessary to provide that depth for the person watching if you’re not going to say that was a crappy swing
That guy’s playing like crap because of X Y and Z and they don’t really ever say that but I feel like what does Tom Watson have to lose he could say that if he sees someone’s faing because of X Y and Z he might say you know guy’s a mess
Look at his pting stroke that’s why you’re not really going to see that on coverage right now
