Ladies Night – Year End Re-Cap

Rich & Moff re cap the 2023 season of Ladies Night, and reveal some interesting facts from their experience.

0:00 – 1:12 Intro

1:13 – 1:44 Why Ladies Night Started

1:45 – 7:04 Biggest Surprise

7:05 – 9:53 Behind The Scenes Drama

9:54 -1:17:38 Realizations From Doing The Show – Red Flags, Relationships, Social Media, Female Nature etc

1:17:39 – Moff’s Favorite Part About Doing The Show

1:22:12 – 1:24:11 Discussing DM’s They’ve Heard

1:24:12 – 1:26:24 Behind The Scenes

1:26:25 – 1:28:02 Adressing Criticism

1:28:03 – 1:30:42 Summary Of Today’s Episode

1:30:43 – 1:32:40 Why Ladies Night Is An Eye-Opening Show

1:32:43 – 1:33:26 Outro

All right boys what’s up we are live another well the final episode of 20123 for ladies night uh moff and I were talking about doing this episode for weeks even just saying you know we’ll do a we’ll do a solo show just me and Chris talking about you know our experiences

Our takeaways I got like 19 points here that I wanted to talk about I’m sure mf’s got some notes moff what’s going on brother it’s happening yeah the uh setup tonight is going to be a little bit different I’m on the road traveling for the holidays but you know here tuned in

And yeah I’m excited to dive into this man I think it’s been an interesting ride so far and uh yeah I’m glad to look back on it and see uh you know going forward what’s it going to look like and how it’s been so far yeah um yeah

There’s a whole bunch of stuff to cover here man because like I think the first thing we should do is sort of talk about why we created this playlist you know this this separate podcast and I think we I mean we kicked it off in the summer

For sure cuz I was looking at some of the older videos I’m like dude man you got a nice tan there back in the summertime but um it must have been around August I think that we sort of kicked this off and uh there was there

Was a a 38 or 39 year old Fitness chick that called in on One show and she was asking a lot of really interesting questions and you know it sort of cooked up the idea you know why don’t we do the same sort of thing that you know we’re

Doing with the unplugged Alpha playlist but just do it for ladies only just call it ladies night um and that was sort of the Catalyst of the whole thing now a lot of things happened that were surprises and there’s a lot of things that happened that were just like kind

Of expected that to sort of go um let’s do kind of like a little bit of a recap on what was the biggest surprise for you with ladies night yeah biggest surprise is man that’s a great question I would say biggest surprise is I was surprised it

How easy it was I I would say the success rate or how many women were willing to come on I I think the reputation of these kind of podcasts that are out there and the panel style show they I think they have mostly a negative connotation with women and I I

Definitely had some interactions and some conversations with women that were like oh you’re just one of those red pill podcasts and you bring on women and you talk crap to them and this and that but I would say for you know I probably messaged a few hundred if not a few

Thousand women over the last four or five months and the ones that would respond were really enthusiastic about it or you know they they really look forward to and they thought they could add value but um as far as a big surprise I would say you

Know I don’t know I don’t know if I was much surprised by much I I think the willingness to come on was a little bit was a refresher more than it was surprising but I think how the show sort of played out is almost exactly as we both expected in a

Lot of aspects um I think honestly the biggest surprise for me is like how many women can’t figure out basic technology like time their cameras don’t work they don’t show up on time they can’t do microphones you know just very basic level stuff that was always it’s always a they throw

Filters on a picture like a [ __ ] magician but to show up on time and you know click a link and be there ready for the show yeah it’s like quantum physics for a lot of them yeah because there’s been times where you know we sort of talked offline you’re like you know I’ve

Got like four girls or five girls lined up you know there that too many and it’s like you know at the rate that they flake and with the tech issues that they have I don’t think it’ll ever be a problem if we’ve got more you know lined

Up than what we would normally want to work with cuz we usually like to work with like two menim minimum minimum two three you know Max like four five yeah but um yeah I think the biggest surprise for me was is the importance that women put on reputation management right it’s like

You’ll ask him a straightforward question what kind of guy you looking for right oh just a nice guy sort of thing okay so like a Walmart greeter so that’s totally fine yeah that might be totally fine as long as you nice guide there’s nice guys at Walmart they make a

Lot more money too and it’s like they always dance around the subject and it always seems like you won’t get to straight like to the point answers if you’re lucky in the show but if you do it’s more towards the end like that seems to be where more of the useful

Conversations go but I was I don’t know I mean you’ve always gotta kind of Jedi mind trick it a little bit like well it’s interesting because there was multiple times where we would ask the qu like the income one comes up a lot what does a guy have to

Make you talk about the Walmart greeter but then you know 10 minutes 15 minutes later we’re kind of coming back to the subject and the question is like well yeah you make x amount and you want to be with a guy that can be on your level

Which is what you said as a woman and you want to be able to fund this lifestyle so let’s go back to that $35,000 a year comment is that still water and they’re kind of sheepish and they go oh yeah I guess not yeah right

So you kind of you really have to kind of Step them through it because I their their initial reaction their initial inclination is to protect that reputation and be a good chip essentially yeah they don’t want to come off as um judgmental uh you know being being called out by

Public you know in ways that might compromise their uh you know the Optics of the representative I think women are really really concerned with the Optics of the representative you know I’ve I’ve talked in solo videos before about how a lot of the times guys will get involved with a

Chick invite her into to his life maybe you know take her to the church and you know have his nuptial sort of thing and it’s like when you say I do that’s when the representative leaves and I think that the the significance that women put on managing their reputation of that

Representative cannot be um cannot be emphasized enough because it’s really really important to them that’s probably the you know like one of the other big aha moments that I had doing this as well too um so I got a bunch of notes here I don’t know if you took any notes

Do you have any points you know you wanted to sort of rip through you want to sort of alternate through them like yeah you got prepared I don’t know if I have anything jotted down but there’s definitely some things that I’ve noticed throughout I mean I we can definitely go

Through some of our most memorable moments are most memorable guests for sure and there’s a lot of things that guys didn’t see obviously behind the scenes and we can kind of protect some names and not um be super vocal about it but there’s a lot of stuff that went

Down after I’ll tell you what why don’t we why don’t we give the viewers a little bit of a a teaser tell them about one of the things that happened behind the scenes and we’ll see the save the rest of them you know for the end of the

Show yeah I I would say the biggest one is the there was a woman that came on who I would say was pretty tame as a guest I don’t think it was one of our most popular episodes I don’t think that it was one that really popped it was a

Huge um or no it was it wasn’t a huge you know popularity as far as Spike but the amount of attention she got according to her after was significant now this was also a woman who and by attention I mean negative attention she said she had comments and she had DMS

But she also was somebody that told me that she had been doxed before so she didn’t even give her real name um she was very hush hush about you know her background she had her Instagram and her but it was all public pun Instagram was public she was using it for affiliate

Links she was selling products because we talked about this beforehand I said Hey listen well you’ve got this issue of People doxing you coming after you we can totally not put your Instagram handle on the screen she goes oh no no well I’m shadowbanned on Instagram so I

Would love to get some more exposures so where a lot of these women sometimes I’m not always a th% forthcoming about the kind of comments they might see but I don’t hide it if they ask and so we had a very honest conversation and then for

Weeks after she appeared on the show in my DMs take the videos down you guys are sending people after me you know what happens if somebody of a girl deletes herself so I got to the point where I haven’t had to do this with any other

Guest but I just said enough and I had to block her so she could just was out of my inbox so it’s uh yeah you you run into some some nut jobs for sure yeah I mean there’s a reason why I have the Ticker on the show when I’m running the

Show it it states right here guest wave rights to privacy on this live live podcast like it’s you know it’s running for a reason right like if you want to be a guest you know shoot off a DM if you want private consults you know sort

Of you know do that privately but um yeah I do remember that cuz that went on for weeks and you’re like you know what should I do I’m like we don’t need to do anything like there’s a Ticker on the bottom she’s making a mountain out of molehill and you’re absolutely right

Like it was actually one of the episodes where it got very little views in comparison to some of the other ones so you know you get these drama queens in all areas of life and you know we don’t usually talk about a lot of the stuff um

You know publicly on the show that sort of happens behind the scenes but we’ll give you some more towards the end so we want you guys to stick around you know to sort of hear a little bit more of the red meat and the drama that sort of went

On but okay so let me go to my notes Here the first thing that I noticed when we were sort of going through this is is that a lot of these women will vocalize the strong desire to have a high value guy but they’re not willing to do the

Work to get and retain him you know it’s interesting because when guys call in on you know the unplugged Alphas they’re like hey Rich this is my problem or sometimes they might dance around and they can’t articulate it properly and I’ll just say something like okay I’ve

Got a magic wand and I wave it to solve this problem what does it look like and then they can articulate it women are actually aware that they’ve got you know an issue because they live through it right you know they go out there they put themselves out there they’re using

Dating apps they’re not getting the results they want the kind of guys that they want or they’re being let down you know whatever it happens to be like any combination of it but when you start to talk to women about accountability and I know that you know this has been said

Many times before you know accountability and women is like Kryptonite sort of thing they don’t really go together it’s like oil and water but you know to have conversations like you know the three things that really attract a guy and keep him around is being very useful to him in his life

Doing the nastiest [ __ ] thing essentially that you’ve never done with any other guy because you’ve got such strong desire for him and never disrespecting him right and it’s like a lot of these women they can’t even do those three basic things they don’t even want to hear about the significance of

These three basic things they just sort of Breeze over them or they’re like I’ll just find my guy you know like you know we had this come up uh um when we talk about guy friends you know for example you know um there was a gal that we had

On one of the shows uh a blonde girl I’ve got the the video queued up over here on my right hand side let me just see if I can throw it up on the screen yeah this one here my guess is Jordan or Kayla yeah I think it was Kayla uh tradcon

No it was you guys will recognize her when I put her up on the screen this one here um so this gal over here okay I can’t play it because if I try to play them simultaneously while we’re doing the uh cast um we kind of lose bandwidth um but

You guys can go back to that one that was the one from 3 months ago and what was the title I put on that one just ladies night I’ve been trying to get better with the titles that’s the other thing that I’ve been trying to do to

Improve is at least put something in the titles afterwards like what we discussed in the show but this one here was a metal head like to go to the rock concerts with her guy friends and it’s like you know The Conversation Piece came up where she described the ultimate

Guy and then she’s presented with the uh conundrum of the ultimate guy is now in your lap you’ve had the conversation about exclusivity you’ve chosen him he you know he says I want to be with you but I don’t take a woman seriously that keeps guys around and these women will

Nonchalantly we’ve seen this a few times cast a guy aside oh [ __ ] him you know I’ll just find somebody else then you know if he’s got these in security issues and the significance of the very limited scope or availability of guys that women want to be with you know the

Ones that they choose they don’t understand that they’re rare they’re very rare right and you know for them to sort of just say no or I’ll pass or I’ll find somebody else and they wonder how they end up single in their late 30s or 40s with nothing to show you know but a

Box wine subscription and a bunch of pets yeah I mean we talked right at the beginning of that you mentioned that these women recognize they have a problem but I don’t even know if that’s true I don’t think these women see that as an issue at all I think yeah the

Natural reactions for them to think that everyone else is at fault or every it’s it’s it’s not them it’s everybody else it’s men right Modern Men are pumper dumpers they don’t want to date they don’t want to be serious there’s this hookup culture right it’s if women are

Alone it’s it’s not their fault it’s everyone else’s fault right and so they they can’t even get past the first step which is I want to be in a relationship I am single therefore there is a problem right so that’s almost table Stakes for a lot of these conversations but they’re not even

Willing to admit that and they get fed this steady diet of you’re perfect if they don’t see your worth it’s on them never change and there’s nobody that’s telling women that’s that are saying hey clearly you’re not getting what you want out of out of life and you’re not getting the

Results what’s more likely and and this is where the idea of logic and rational reasoning and thinking doesn’t really land well with women who are obviously ruled by their emotions you know it’s even something as simple as you’re not getting what you want you got a string of bad relationships what’s more likely

You found every guy you run into sucks or you are lacking and you don’t have the skills or the wherewithal or the desirability for long-term partnership with these guys or long-term relationships excuse me so you know you give that frying pan to the forehead smack and moment but I think it

Misses and goes right over their heads because so often they’re not getting this kind of stuff you know I think we’re we’re probably some of the first experiences a lot of these women have with a guy saying yeah you’re probably all that not all that in a bag of chips

Probably got some things you need to work on and it’s just so foreign to them that they didn’t even they don’t even contemplate that they could be possibly the one with the issue yeah I you know I got a note here about the absurdity of the fluffing that

Sort of goes on I’ll talk about that in a sec but before I do um I I just realized that I accidentally put this on the unplugged Alpha Channel and the entrepreneurs and cars Channel I’m going to kill the feed to the entrepreneurs and cars Channel guys come over to the

Unplugged Alpha it’s it’s on YouTube just search for it we’re live right now but I’m just going to end the feed to uh EIC um move there we go so that should have killed it um I screw that up sometimes um yeah the the fluffing that

They were doing you know we saw this recently last couple weeks you know where we had like we sometimes have a broad panel where it’s like early 20s all the way up to like late 30s even 40s we’ve had a couple of 50 year olds you

Know 50 plus and it’s like there’ll be a 41-year-old on and there’s a couple of younger gals on and they’ll say something immediately like you know because when we go around at the intro it’s you know how old are you you know why’d you come on the show where do you

Live sort of thing you know was a quick intro and then like right away oh my God you’re so you know you’re so beautiful I would have guessed that you were you know 28 years old and not 42 so it’s like come on like you know can we stop

Playing the games and have an honest conversation rather than telling somebody that’s clearly looking like they’re in their 40s that they’re you know 28 or 29 or something like that and I think that you know the honesty I mean a lot more honesty would go a long way but I don’t think that

You’re ever going to get it from you know from the gals they’re they’re always going to fluff each other up I mean that’s why you have this um New Found culture of the uh uh fat acceptance movement right where it’s like you know people that are un like categorically unhealthy they probably

Have cardiovascular disease maybe diabetes definitely obese uh they’ve probably got chronic joint pain all kinds of problems that sort of compound with that and you just tell them oh but you’re beautiful at any size right well no you’re not and also you’ve got health issues so why don’t we just be honest

About that sort of stuff but um you seem to get that a lot more with women than you do guys you know guys will just be honest I’ll just you know I’ll you know I’ll I’ll be with one of the boys like we were at Breen Ridge last year and you

Know they’ll be standing with their shirt off it’s like what the hell is this man you’re skinny fat like you’re shaped like a pair of fixes you know you can’t be hanging around us looking like that right and it’s like you know the guy will take it to hard to be like yeah

You’re right you know you know I’ll fix that but we’re but we as men end up being direct and honest like I think that’s that’s certainly one of the big distinguishing differences between men and women as far as the way that we approach um you know stories and you

Know the novelty of these sort of sorts of conversations and I think that maybe we take that for granted sometimes as guys whereas you know you you do the Ladies Night Show and you watch some sort of like do their thing and you’re like oh there it is again right there it

Is again well it’s always about competition between women I mean there’s really not this the the the reason that we know why women aren’t honest with another because it’s all about intersexual competition is they want to compete with the top shelf guys so if they can get women to continue to be

Ugly or be fat or look old but try to convince them that they are skinny and young and attractive then there’s no work that goes into that there’s no need to change I saw something on Twitter today where they were talking about short hair did you see it I did there’s

A study done on hair hairdressers and female hairdressers are more likely to encourage a woman to cut her hair short if she’s beautiful to try to disqualify her from the sexual Marketplace because we know that you know men find long hair feminine more attractive a sign of youthfulness and fertility um but female

Hairdressers will encourage beautiful women to cut their hair short um to try to disqualify them I I found that fascinating yeah I didn’t right in line with what you’re talking about right there right I mean it’s they hold a lot of power because you know look man you I

Don’t know if you guys have seen chicks get haircuts but it’s always funny when a girl gets a haircut and she gets like an inch or two cut off and you’re like you don’t know any difference but to them it’s you might as well given her a

Buzz cut yeah so I mean you know six seven eight inches of hair is years of of hair growth and so but this idea it’s all about competition but somebody you I made that comment I think once on X and and somebody said well what about you know men like aren’t men always

Competing with women I said yes but the difference is that it’s a it’s like a necessary evil you know men will go further when they have a tribe of strong masculine competent men and it’s important to have that for the advancement of tribes and Society so because a lot of guys say oh

Well why are you guys aren’t you guys happy with 80% of men being dorks and L like wouldn’t you rather just tell men to get fat and not Chase Excellence it’s like well no because there’s it’s a net positive when you have strong virtuous masculine raise All Ships right correct

So as you’re advancing Society where there’s never that necessity for women because good luck pitting a female tribe against a male tribe and we already know how that’s played out in for Millennia so they really only have competition in in in girl world where it breaks each

Other down and it’s about it’s far more blood thy than it is in the male World figuratively speaking but at least when it comes to guys competing competition creates stronger men which creates a better Society competition for women is all about just getting the next best guy

So she can be taken care of it’s very solid itic when you talk about female competition it’s all about her hypergamy male competition is about building tribes and advancing Society forward so you know we we see that as a net positive even though we’re building up

Men who could one day you know Dethrone us or overtake us essentially yeah I got another note here on um ssr’s anti-depressants therapy and baggage and one of the things I noticed was that the younger the woman is the you know it’s interesting because it’s like a you know it’s like a bell

Curve the younger she is the less baggage she she’s got at some point there’s like a middle point where it’s like they’ve been carrying baggage around for quite a while late 30 like late 20s maybe 30s you know in some cases and then at some point and they

Deal with it when they’re past their Prime and they’re in their 40s and and you know 50s where they don’t tend to sort of carry that baggage around so much did you notice that Trend with the you know a couple of the gals or there’s a few that were very very like

Distraught during the conversations and they were talking about therapy and ssris and anti-depressants and stuff like that that they were on yeah I found that particularly interesting because statistically the women that are most likely to be on anti-depressants and ssris are white single women that are 40 plus yeah not

Your late 20s early 30s we had a few in the late 20s that were on anti-depressants we did we did and I think so I think they’re kind of reaching that critical mass whether you want to call it biological clock if you want to call it the Epiphany phase

Whether whether you want to call it the wall it doesn’t really matter what you want to call it I think a lot of the women in their 40s and 50s sort of resigned to their plight and they kind of just said hey this is how it’s

Going to be and they kind of rationalize it in a way so they don’t have to go through that but I don’t I don’t want to say maybe they’ve given up hope but it’s they seem to say they seem to be more comfortable with reality and knowing and

Being more self-aware um because they’ve I think they’ve had enough time and experience in the real world where they no longer get that attention the guys they want are not going after them anymore and so they just becomes a very sobering reality whereas the women in their late 20s early 30s are doing

Everything they can to claw back to when they were 22 23 and keep those feelings and so they’re they’re unable to reconcile the fact that they are on borrow time and that the know Sands in The Hourglass are spilling rapidly um and so they’re not quite

Ready to embrace and accept um and I think it’s probably also a generational thing as well I mean I mean even last week or two weeks I mean the first thing those I mean the two 21 year olds we had on were talking about therapy right and it’s just such a

Mainstream thing now I mean you have major podcast platforms that are sponsored by like tele Health Therapy companies better health or EXA yeah so um it is incredibly mainstream it is you know very genen Z and very Millennial focused I don’t think that it permeated

Gen X as much as it has the younger Generations so um yeah it’s definitely interesting I but I I I thought most of the time like when we had 40y old 50y old women on they were rather well adjusted um even though they may be single moms or they may be um going

Through a divorce or separated I they still tended to be a little more you know head on their shoulders than a lot of the younger chicks I think it’s because they at some point come to the realization that the expiry date on their beauty is a lot

Closer than what they had anticipated in the past like we had um uh Martha Bueno was her name or something like that yeah I don’t know if you remember her with the oh I remember Martha she had the uh she had the she had the sign above her had the neon sign

Yeah something yeah Latin Latin boss babe um was the title of that one and see people break my balls over my neon sign but at least mine doesn’t say MF in the background like yeah I mean give me a break yeah she was um yeah she was

Interesting because you know she was in her 40s and she wanted to argue that um that uh she was just as valuable and just as attractive today in the sexual Marketplace as she was when she was in early 20s and we did a poll on the community Tab and had thousands and

Thousands of responses and I just you know because we met her on Twitter and I just took one of her earlier photographs which she posted in her timeline in the argument that you know she wanted to kick up with us of her when she was like 20 or something like that versus her

Today and un formally unanimously across the board everybody thought she looked better younger and it’s like at some point I think you know women come to or they arrive at this place where they’re like yeah I probably was a lot more beautiful when I was 23 and me not being

As beautiful and having baggage is probably costing me and then that’s when they’re willing to put down the baggage and walk away from it um you guys let me know what you think if that you know meet your own experiences throw it in the comments but I think that you know

The notion of of of baggage and I mean like even even the SSR is like I was actually surprised how open and willing some of these gals were to admit that they are on anti-depressants I mean your ex-girlfriend was on anti-depressants like you did an entire show oh yeah on

Sort of like what led you up on them office hours to you know getting red pilled and finding all this stuff and you know connecting with me and it’s like you know the stories you were telling about you know the ups and downs and you pop you know these pills in the

Morning and these pills at night and the Sleep patterns and like the sexual function and the desire and the weight goes like it throws everything off for women it’s it’s it’s really not a good place to be and like you know the willingness to say I mean they’re not

Saying hey I’m [ __ ] but they’re basically saying hey I’m admitting that I’m on these things but it kind of numbs them doesn’t it like it like it sort of makes them like these gray Blobs of nothingness right where they don’t have any polarity it’s just they’re just you

Know they just are and they don’t care well what’s interesting is that I think the reason that they’re so forthcoming about it is because it’s not taboo anymore it’s mainstream it’s acceptable it’s almost it’s celebrated and it’s funny to be a chick that’s messed up in

The head I mean you’ve got I I had um a conversation with with my girl maybe a week ago where she used to listen to that call her daddy podcast and not very seriously I think she listen to it but they used to sell merchandise and like

On the shirts they would said something like I’m unwell right and it’s it’s it’s funny like oh I’m so messed up oh I’m so quirky my life is a joke like hahaa and I was like think about the message that you’re putting out into the world like

Think about when you put something on a shirt and you’re going to wear that in public what you’re sending to people right you know and you might just say oh you’re just being a hard ass it’s just a funny little thing but the stories we tell ourselves are real the things we

Choose to broadcast as signals and messages to other people and strangers are absolutely real and so if you’re not careful you become numb to those signals and they become a part of your everyday reality and so always tired always depressed always my life is in a tail

Span hahaa my life is such a train wreck and you start to embody some of those traits and and carry that stuff around and it’s it’s almost like a it’s like a badge of honor or it makes them it makes them want like almost it’s almost like an ingroup thing it’s well

If nothing else I’m super alone but at least there’s a million other women out there that are screwed up as me so it makes me feel a little bit better about myself because at least I’m not the only one so uh yeah the ssris and the drugs

And and all of that sort of stuff is just I it’s become at this point you know it’s celebrated it’s get it’s go to therapy and get on drugs I mean it’s it’s yeah it’s really sickening it’s um it’s almost like women celebrate ssris like men celebrate

Trt trt has a much more positive effect on men than SSR do on women um what about the notion that women hate being called Beauty objects and want their value to be based on totally irrelevant things did you notice that too always 100% I mean but I think I think the

Biggest thing is they just don’t like the term object right they they get so caught up in the semantics of the words and exactly what we say uh whereas I try to water down the language a bit because the actual phrasing used by Dr Warren frell is sex object right like he like

He says men are success objects and women are sex objects to men so I try to soften the blow a little bit you know the women on the show and I’ll say beauty objects right right um but yeah you’re absolutely right like the term object seems to seems to really bother

Them like we would appreciate the the Optics of beauty and femininity and curves and hips and breasts and all that sort of stuff for what we’ve always appreciated them to be throughout history right right well they still think that we live in this male-dominated and patriarchal society

Where the measure of how you stack up is how much money you make and your degrees and all that sort of good stuff and that’s still true for men I mean you’re not building you know but that’s but because they are seeing high class topshelf men chasing Excellence they and

That’s what they want they think that that’s what men want out of them right so they and it’s I think it also comes from a place of fear for a lot of women I think if if the reason that women and I talked about this on I don’t know if

My my last mafas hour is the one before it where I got into this sort of back and forth with this chick that I’ve known for a long time um and you know when I just asked the question I was like well what do you think guys want

Out of relationships right and she gave me this like word salad Soliloquy about energy and this and being the blah blah blah and holding him accountable and like men don’t need any of that I think if women really UND they’re they’re afraid to face the fact of how simple

Men really are and what they need because if they really understood that men just want a good-look fit chick who’s not a pain in the ass and and does some basic things they have to realize and reconcile that they are very easily replaceable so they have to sort of drum

Up this fairy tale in their head or this this grocery list this Phantom grocery list that no men really cares about except feminist men that are lying about trying to get into the pants because they’re trying to Plate her that it’s like what oh my God men are so hard to

Shop for for birthdays and Christmas I’m like just cook him a nice dinner and give them a [ __ ] like but because that’s it’s not this grandiose thing she’s like well any woman can cook my guide any woman can cook dinner and give a [ __ ]

I have to do all this other stuff like G no know so they’re they’re afraid to be faced with the reality that men are so simple and really our animalistic impulses are so easily plated that they could just be just another girl and they because they’re the main character in

Their story and everything revolves around them due to their salop ISM they just those two ideas can’t coexist yeah it’s it’s um it’s a real it’s a real issue man there were so many times in the cast where they were like well why can’t I be recognized and

Valued for my success or my job or my career or my degree or and it’s like they know they know like they you know before they’ll go outside they’ll put on a couple of pounds of war paint the you know the eyelashes the ey Shadow the cheek you know the concealers the it’s

For them they put on yeah they’ll put on the push-up bras the heels the stockings the under like the spanks like the amount of Hoops that women jump through to to create the Optics of beauty and I’m not complaining ladies like it like we appreciate it as men you know we we we

Look at women as Beauty objects you are Beauty objects to men I think that’s okay and and it’s not just like you know your beauty is is only going to be limited to when you’re 22 or 23 there’s lots of beautiful women that are older than that okay uh but they understand or

They should understand anyway that you’re not as attractive at 40 as you are at 20 um so denying that is obviously going to be a struggle and I think that’s one of the issues is they inherently know there’s a core a fabric of their being their gut something a

Little voice that it’s like hey you’re not as competitive at 38 as you are at 22 so go out there and climb the corporate lad get a bunch of degrees frame them in Mahogany make sure there’s a bunch of little letters after your name use hash bossgirl or Boss [ __ ]

Somewhere out in social media and just just be pretty just be pretty and they’re kidding themselves because the reason women do this stuff in the first place and they’ll deny it but that’s okay because we know that we know what women are and how they act at

Their core they’ll deny that the degrees and all this money they spend on education and all of this money they’re chasing is vs salary is a hypergamous mechanism it is the only reason they’re doing it is because they want to get in a track the highest quality man possible they’re just going

At it the complete wrong way it has nothing they don’t have this sort of self-actualization that men do they don’t they’re not conquerors they’re not they’re not going and chasing Excellence for excellence sake like men do men have always done so they know inherently in their subconscious that this is it’s the

Reason why women like fancy stuff they like going out to nice dinners it’s because they want status they want to be elevated they’re chasing a lifestyle and so it’s well the higher I go which means I want to match a guy that if I get better my lifestyle is high that means

My man’s going to have a high lifestyle and there’s this this plethora of amazing highle dudes out there that are going to be able to you know take my 200k and add his 250k and then we’re going to be this Jay-Z Beyonce power couple whatever but again logic doesn’t

Work in these situations because it’s like look what would you rather do work for 20 years to get the VP or the CEO position undergo hundred tens if not hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt uh spend your most fertile years working for someone that will drop you at the at

The first time you do something wrong or focus on taking those hours getting good sleep eating right learning some basic culinary skills getting in the gym and being attractive it’s so much easier to be in shape as a woman or be physically attractive as a woman than it is to do

All that other [ __ ] I mean yeah it’s way easier women just have to be not fat I mean my goodness just don’t treat your body like a complete dump right like skinny fat works on a lot of men like there’s plenty of women out there that can get them in because at

Least they’re not fat fat they’re just skinny fat you know the um you know the argument that they’re not Beauty objects always falls apart like there’s so many shows where a gal would be like you know my value and my job and my career and I

Make this amount of money and I drive a BMW or I drive a Porsche or something like that and they’re and they’re going on and on about their value and then if you were to click their Instagram it’s like nothing but skin their ass TNA everywhere because they know that that’s

Their value and we’re not even talking about the only fans girls like we’ll get to the only fans girls in a bit these are just like the regular career basic chicks basic chicks right like you know like the Becky right um what’s my next Point here oh they

Never offer a better solution to any of my recommendations so how many times have we been challenged where it’s like well that’s just wrong and it shouldn’t be that way and then I’ll just sort of sit back and be like okay so what is your solution to the problem then what

Is your recommendation they got nothing I I I’ve I’ve lost count of the times that that’s happened where they will disagree or they’ll say I’m here because I have a disagreement with you it’s like okay here’s my explanation what is your better solution and it never comes they

Just want to disagree with you right so I always found that fascinating too yeah it’s it’s almost this uh I don’t it’s not my job to find a solution you just need to say something that I’ll like and then I’ll accept it yeah no try again

Rich how about this I don’t want to hear your opinion rich I want to hear my opinion coming out of your mouth Rich right or they don’t have a better Sol I don’t like that try try again okay that’s acceptable right so so yeah all the time never never a better solution

And it’s um again it goes back to naturally not being solution oriented and it’s just like oh that makes me feel bad so therefore it is wrong I will wait until I hear something that makes me feel good therefore it is right I feel yeah um I also noticed a lot of the

Better woman um were already paired off they were either in a relationship or um married or you know something like that I think um bigest take I had was that yeah yeah definitely for sure actually I’ve got I’ve got one of the screens uh queued up because it was one of the

Recent ones what was the title of this a tradcon only fans girl and nurse walk into a bar this one here so the cast of this one was these gals and we had the only fans girl this chick was the nurse from Winnipeg and this was the gal from

Australia who was a trackon and one of the things that stood out about her in that show um was you know she was talking about from the GetGo well I’m a professional girlfriend and that kind of got us both because we’ve never heard that before okay well what is a

Professional girlfriend do and she’s like well my job is to make my boys you know my guys life easier so got to get up for a golf tournament on a Saturday at you know 5:00 a.m. I’m up at 4:30 making him breakfast and tidying up the

Place you know before he’s gone sort of thing and she said something else uh too during she was taking care of his mother also like she was a hard caretaker with that yeah and I think a lot of it came from culture and societal conditioning from where she came it was Indonesia or

Malaysia Indonesia um and she said something about guidance that her father offered because I start to ask question more and more you know of the ladies now well what did your father you know have to say about this or what boundaries did he set but in this case her father said

Something to her which I thought was very profound he said something something along the lines of a woman’s job is to serve her man and a man’s job is to serve his customer and it’s like that is clear it’s defined it’s understood and it’s followed and she’s

She’s one of the better one or just an example of one of the better ones that was paired off in a good relationship happy knew her role and her place um I understand that there’s a lack of men that are able to lead but there’s also a

Lot of women out there that are that are almost impossible to lead you know like they’re unwilling to follow boundaries you know sort of thing so the ones that popped to me as like some of the better women they were already paired off yeah Angie was a great success story she actually reached

Out to me and said yeah I followed Rich you know and she mentioned in some ways again we we get some women sometimes that are are not the most articulate in the world and and again sometimes I’m not saying Angie is does not have it together by any means but we kind of

Asked her like what are some things we helped you with in the relationship or what are some things that the content brought forth and again it goes back to it feel she’s just like well it really boils out to it just felt right and then it started to fall into place and so

What was really interesting about Angie is that there were a couple Clips on the rich Cooper Clips Instagram channel that were posted essentially backtack with her and there was one clip where everybody in the comments was like amazing where do I find a girl like her

This is great and then one right after that was like no wonder this girl is single this is a fairy tale this is ridiculous and when she was really talking about I can’t remember the f I think the first one was about supporting you know your man and being there for

Him and making sure he’s got his stuff going on that was the one where she got a lot of this but then we also talked about male vulnerability guys crying on shoulders and things like that and she was like I don’t want to hear that stuff

Right I mean I’m I’m supportive I don’t want to sit there and listen and watch you cry you know I want I’m I’m doing my job by supporting you so you can go and do what you need to do and so much hate in the comments and so uh I think

There’s men want to be coddled there’s a lot of guys out there that just want to be coddled by their women and still buy into the lives that she needs to be their support system in their Rock and be their shoulder to on and they can um

So but I mean she was with this guy for a long time um still with him I mean this is a multi-year long-term relationship she was in her early 30s I believe and they’ve been together a while um I don’t know how many years I don’t know if there was

Like 10 or more but it’s like four or five years I think she four or five years but you know she she did what a couple of women did and again like some of think another one that pops into my head is is deja where she goes you know

I had a child and I Surrender the biggest thing is I surrendered to my own nature and I let my own nature guide me and it was the best decision I ever made my relationship has never been better I get to stay home with my kid full-time I

Get to be completely in my feminine role my man gets to be in his completely masculine role and it works and the the I would say the biggest takeaway that I’ve had over this entire I don’t know if you call it an experiment or this this content that we’ve done is that

The women actually who embody the things that we talk about about pink jobs Blue Jobs feminine roles masculine roles men that lead women that get in the passenger seat they are overwhelmingly the ones that are in happy long-term relationships and marriages and the women that turn around and talk about

Boss girls and this and that and I’m empowered and know my worth they’re all single they can’t figure out why so I mean if that’s not proof within the pudding I don’t know what is did you notice the word partner showed up a lot

Lot and I and I started to push back on that too um yeah a lot of the times you know these guyss are not using my boyriend my husband you know like gender specific terms it’s whitewashed partner my partner you know I want to find a

Partner and it’s like you know I just got tired of hearing it and I started to you know step in and sort of you know correct these girls and it’s like you know you make partner in a law firm you know you have a partner in a business but in a relationship

Where there’s a man and a woman which is you know the conventional types of sort of conversations that we have we don’t do you know the other types we just keep it straightforward conventional you know Norms there’s no Partners it’s it’s is a guy a guy that that’s your

Boyfriend are you married then that’s your husband right you know same sort of thing um but that’s just a clear example of like the generic language the comforting lies that that culture Society media music like all that sort of stuff crams down women’s throat and gets them drunk on the notion that oh

You’re all the same you know it’s like no we’re different and that’s good that’s that’s how we survived as a species for so long but I I’m going to keep pushing back on the word word partner um the Pet Collections I made a note on Pet Collections you notice a lot

Of that too oh like how many of them had dogs and cats and stuff like that cat like little like little dogs and around barking they would have him in their laps and stuff yeah I mean for a lot of them it was a security blanket almost

And you could see sometimes getting on like the cat would walk around they bring the dog in their lap and things like that um especially when things got uncomfortable you know the ones that were talking about therapy or s ssris or the baggage like you know the comforting

Pet would show up on their lap and they’d start caressing and petting the you know little doggy sort of thing um yeah I noticed a lot of that and that’s you know that’s one of the things that showed up a lot when I was uhing single

And dating is there’s a lot of women that have like I mean I over ellish the term when I say a zoo in their house but if a chick’s got more than one pet I look at it like a zoo you got two cats two dogs or more or one of each or

Something like that you’re basically living in a zoo like you know it’s a lot of Maintenance um single moms are exactly as described as in my book like there’s nothing I missed there to a te I mean and and this is something I get a lot I mean I I don’t read the

Comments as much but every now and then I go in there and you know people have accused me of farming specific types of women or saying you need to go get real women on it’s like these guys look you know we are getting women literally from

All over the world we’ve had a dozen different countries represented we’ve had literally from every continent I mean from every continent except except for Antartica maybe we’ll find one who knows maybe call in but you know people have just said oh well these aren’t real

Women go find them and guys like this is this is part of the reason we do this show what we’re trying to display to you guys is that this is how modern women are and you need to take these lessons and you need to understand what we teach

And then you need to adjust accordingly you’re not going to find this unicorn because you’ll look at some of these shows and like oh well they’re very location dependent or that’s only lot them are though like if you look at some you know competitors they’re La Vegas Miami like they’re very location

Dependent whereas we’re all over the world now you know we’re pulling these gals and that’s a that’s a criticism we got very early on like oh this is a ripoff of XYZ show or ABC show and it’s like the one of the benefits that we have about doing this as an online

Virtual show is that I can just tell a chick just be home at XYZ time and log into your laptop I don’t have to bring you into a studio um the demographically the types of of women you had on yeah do we have some only fans girls on every

Now and then sure but I mean when you think about I mean that’s not on purpose I don’t go on only fans and try to bring only fans girls on it’s they get invited on same thing with single mothers it’s like I you know find them somewhere and

They just so happen to be a single mother right it’s we usually find out during the show they a single mother right and it’s like you know I don’t have a pool of 10,000 women that are lined up to come on to this show um it’s still very much an outbound you know

Effort to try to to have people come on and and there’s really no it’s not like hey come on this and promote your off it’s we’re GNA have open honest dialogue we’re gonna have open conversations you probably are going to hear some things that you might not like but at the same

Time you you might get some ideas that might help you or you might be able to help somebody else that’s having a similar experience and that’s always how it’s positioned so anybody that thinks that there’s there’s a slant or an agenda around the show like there might

Be for some others there’s really not I mean I anybody that wants to come on the show for the most part has an invitation yeah they’re welcome as long as you’re a lady that’s why it’s called ladies night you know if you’re a CH you’re biological woman come on the show you

Know join us uh just DM off on Instagram and he’ll and he’ll schedule it in um speaking of only fans what did you think of all the only fans models I want to do that in quotations the models yeah you know I was actually pleasantly surprised with

The demeanor of most of them it wasn’t until sort of after we got off the show that some of the claws started to come out and I don’t think we even really asked any there’s only one that I can really think of and that you know came after us or

Came after me and tried to you know run her mouth in the DMS and run a bunch of talk a bunch of [ __ ] but it actually has been I think her name was Ash Ashley coincidentally the ones that people were accusing of being a uh a Transformer so

Um but for the most part I mean I think that we they’re not that many of them they’re kind of few and far between I think the most recent woman we had Mandy was probably the most insightful or the mo maybe the most uh reflective because she would actually

Ask at the end of the show she goes well what advice would you give me as somebody that’s doing this and wants to maybe do something else one day and and get away from this um so some of them complete yeah some of them though complete doo birds and and

Rocks for brains as You’ probably expect but um it’s interesting because it’s definitely not you know 100% of the time the girls we go after but they seem to all have similar struggles as a lot of other women is finding relationships and they seem to kind of have issues sometimes walking

That line between client and that that sort of parasocial relationship and but I also don’t think there they understand the danger of it a lot of times yeah there’s yeah there’s one thing with the only fans girl that I you know I asked a couple times and I got the same answer

Was no I just don’t have simp signing up for only fans there’s some really good-looking Alpha sort of attractive sorted guys that pay for my nudes and I don’t believe them I really don’t believe them I think that’s [ __ ] I think they’re trying to imply that they’ve that they’ve got a variety of

Customer like there’s like there’s a specific type for everything and I I mean I just don’t know any guys that are together that have money that drive nice cars that are captivating that have a good business that would spend $9.99 a month to look at pictures of a six’s

Butthole like I it just doesn’t add up um I think though I still think there’s guys that fit that mold that are plugged in that would do it I mean there’s some that that I can think of uh Like Larry wheels for example I don’t know if

You know who that is Larry Wheels is this guy he was he kind of blew up a couple years ago in the world of bodybuilding um influencer and I mean he spent tens of thousands of dollars on one and then he kind of CH and then he

Kind of we his way out of it calling it like an addiction or something like that but a guy that’s got money a guy that’s jacked to the teeth you know got businesses got the lify there was a guy from the manosphere I was just about to

Say yeah yeah there was a guy from the manosphere that held out to the public that he’s good with women and dating and has you know solid advice he wasn’t a big name um you know the time that I was dealing with it but but he’s still

Around he’s still on shows and and Tristan Tate sent me a screenshot of his um email address paying only fans M money to one of his girls and he was telling me this this prick was online bragging about how much game he has and how anybody that that spends money on

Only fans model is a simp and he showed me a screen capture of him making a credit card payment uh with his with his name and his email address to one of his models so I thought that was interesting but again not it’s another example in

The space I mean I mean it’s like another one bites the dust I mean you can be a guy that pays for only fans or you can be a guy that beats the [ __ ] out of a woman and spends a night in jail you can be a guy that gets the [ __ ] beat

Out of him by a girl you can be you know a dude that I mean says mother and then marries one I mean they’re the laundry list goes on so just add another one to the the list of of of these guys yeah I mean like the only fans model

Sort like there was a Jasmine character you know the uh that [ __ ] idiot I mean you know I got an email four lawyer I should I should forward you the email but I got an email from this from this chick that was a researcher that broke down all of

Her arguments with links to all the um details in it and I I think the title of it was something like uh that that Jasmine ho broken down uh by an actual researcher with like page after page and you know I sort of scanned through and I clicked on a few

Of the links and I looked at and I thought about you know doing a show on it but it’s just like you know the amount of effort that it takes to refute her [ __ ] it’s just not worth it um but she’s a good example of you know one

Of these characters that that wants to be polarizing to get all of your attention and you know prove that she’s a somebody cuz you saw it in the comments like oh rich guy got owned by this uh only fans Jasmine lawyer model it’s like yeah really like that’s what

You think Buddy bro uh you know go go sign up and pay for it right but you went back and did your homework I mean she brought this flimsy study and then expected us to read it live on air and you know and so and then we went back

And looked at it and the source material that she was claiming like it didn’t come from Marriage statistic it didn’t come from the courts you know it came from a survey surve like a like a 60 or 990 minute interview yeah um you know

And so it’s and it also missed a lot of very important questions that would solidify the Notions of hypergamy that we talked about in that episode which I’m not even going to get into because it’s again the amount of effort that it takes to refute somebody like that’s

[ __ ] and again guys you know this is why I tell men to stay away from lawyers on a long-term basis they love an argument like they love to argue even even if they don’t have a legit basis to stand on they will make up [ __ ] to stand

On which is which is what we saw there there was something really telling that we kind of jammed on after the show because I think a lot of what a lot of guys miss is you know one of your more popular videos is talking about girls with daddy issues and it’s not always

About a guy about a dad that wasn’t around that abandoned you talk a lot about a guy that is the savior and she’s the princess or a piece of furniture and that’s clearly what Jasmine had she mentioned that her dad was around but she was daddy’s little girl she was the

Princess yeah she mentioned that her dad was at her apartment making her dinner as she was doing the show as she was on the show so clearly this is a woman that has never put in you know her place properly by a man um and taught how to

Act correctly and so that’s uh that’s part of that Daddy issue red flag number one is not just oh he wasn’t around it’s that he was around but he wasn’t present or he didn’t instill the right lessons and did not be embody what a man should

Be so she looks at men as her doormats and her play things essentially do you do you remember um so I got another note here which one was this uh lazy this one over here so these characters over here do you remember these two gals and Kenzie this one over

Here on the left she was a single mom she was young and this came up a few times this is you know just the one that I sort of popped up on the screen as a bit of reminder CU I just sort of sorted them by uh popularity and Views and there’s a

Few examples where they were talking about having a good relationship with a good guy playing the right roles uh you know being useful to his life not being disrespectful or any of those things and there was a lot of Stories being told to them uh that would essentially try to

Jeopardize their relationship oh why are you you know making him meals like he should be making you meals you know sort of thing or you know things along those lines but there was a couple of examples that I saw that popped up a few times where it became clear we were talking

About this earlier too that you know women will try to jeopardize a successful relationship so I mean you got to be careful about the source I always say evaluate the source if somebody’s offering advice or an opinion or to or to try to change your behavior

You know ask yourself what I want to trade my life for theirs like what I want to walk in their shoes you know sort of thing and we saw that a few times too what’s interesting about that you know I always kind of positioned first of all like em and Kenzie were

Great I mean I think mem actually you know we kind of put her feet to the fire a little bit we talked about the Instagram and some of the photos she had on there and you know and skeptical the chat was I was skeptical when you had a

Guy that’s only known her for a couple months and now he’s ready to step in at 20 coule C years old to play the role of stepfather or Mr dad or whatever um you know and whether that guy either has weird intentions or he’s just kind of this sippy guy but

Notwithstanding one of the things I try to position when I when I want to bring women onto the show I say listen getting an outside perspective like ours where we have no personal stake in your relationship or your life could actually be a good thing because common

Belief in sort of modern advice will tell you well make sure you listen to your family make sure you listen to your friends because there’s the one they are the ones that care about you they are the ones that want to make help you succeed and if you’re happy they’ll be

Happy and anybody that’s reached any sort of success in life could probably tell you that the first people that are trying to chop them down or trying to pass snide comments or that are trying to re on their parade are friends and family they’re not strangers so it’s

Sort of a weird position that we can find ourselves in sometimes where they’re like why would I listen to you guys you’re complete strangers it’s like that’s maybe precisely the reason why you should listen to us because we have no incentive to lie to you we have no

Reason not to tell you the truth whereas your friends and family who don’t want to see you be better than them or they don’t want to see you surpass them because they’re miserable and you’re happy they’ve got every reason to lie to you got another note here on my list and

It’s the notion of importance of preserving their value um these women that we’ve had on totally and I mean absolutely totally underestimate the importance of preserving their value and not sleeping around um it’s it’s nonchalantly discussed in so many of the shows was oh you know I was hooking up

With this guy and when I was stupid doing this that and the other thing or random this that or the other thing it’s like I’ll never ask the girls on the show like you guys have done it in the comments from time to time not so much

Anymore but you’d be like ask them to notch count ask them to notch count it’s like there’s no point wrong show exactly um I never ask it because you’re never going to get an honest answer and I’m not going to go down the rabbit hole of

Like prove it or you know um getting getting into the Dynamics of establishing what it more than likely is because I’ve already done videos about that on the entrepreneurs and cars Channel where you know I’ve taken posts or comments or articles you know and sort of talking about that sort

Of stuff and it’s always a multiple of two to three times higher than what’s volunteered but I found it interesting that all the women almost all of them you know with the exception of the ones that had been married up young completely dismiss the notion that preserving their value is aligned with

Not sharing their body with a bunch of dudes they just don’t get it and it’s like you know once they get to a certain number they just don’t care anymore right it just it just keeps to it just keeps compounding I don’t know what that

Is if it’s on one hand or whatever it happens to be um I don’t know if you noticed that too yeah it’s very they’re very flippant about it you know it’s anything that serves as a inhibitor of women’s Freedom or right to do whatever they want whenever they want

With whoever they want is not cool with them right there’s again you’re taking a person a human being part of our speci men get to do it then I must be able to do it too right sure not only that but you from the time they’re born you are

The prize you are on the pedestal there’s nothing that you can do wrong it is up to other people to acques to you so why would this be any different why would you have to do anything for for the express you you are born with value and it never diminishes so nothing you

Do will tarnish that whatsoever and anybody that says otherwise is just a knuckle dragger that’s old order thinking or we’re not cavemen anymore this isn’t the 1950s where you can beat women right so it never comes from a place of actual reality and even when you try to have these conversations and

Say well think about it like any other stimulus I mean do you do you have the same intense feelings as you did for guy number 20 as you did Guy number one almost every single woman on the planet I guarantee would tell you no but again

We we we fall we find ourselves in these logical rabbit holes where it doesn’t matter 2 plus two can equal five to them as long as it feels good long as it feel I just feel like speaking of um weird [ __ ] situationships is is something that’s been popping up more and more and

Women are used so a situationship as I understood it when it was being used when the term originated was basically I am in a compromised relationship I’ve I’ve entered into a relationship with a man or a woman and it’s not going well so I’m going to call it a

Situationship women today on the shows are calling anything that’s not commitment a situationship early stages a month in two weeks in you know two months in they’re calling it a situationship and I don’t think they understand what a situationship really is it’s it’s a it’s a it’s a previously committed

Relationship that is now compromised whatever’s happened happened and it’s kind of like teetering on collapse and then we would call it a a uh situationship but you know today that term is just blanketly cast across anything that’s not a formal commitment find that interesting right yeah I mean

The two examples that come to mind are are starkly different I mean you had one with Mandy who said she’d been seeing the same guy they were sexually exclusive for a few months but they went out on Dat I mean they did everything you do in a relationship the only

Difference was he hadn’t asked her to be his girlfriend or something like that or he didn’t ask the question and that was kind of the last piece of the puzzle versus we had a a woman a week or two later um Luna I believe who said well

I’ve been seeing this guy we I’ve been seeing him three weeks and we’ve already slept together therefore situationship right so I I see it mostly as a way to I’m open to something better this is kind of my guy right now that I’m seeing but it’s not serious in case anybody out

There that’s watching that’s a millionaire with a yacht wants to DM me and get me at I’m not committed to this guy we’re not we’re not committed to each other you know it’s kind of in this no man’s land um yeah it’s it’s a means of always being on the lookout for

Something potentially better and I a woman that a woman that sees these guys are hypergamous best is not coming on a show saying I am open I’m flexible in this situationship I’m with this guy and he’s with me yeah remember um this gal over here Caitlyn oh God Caitlyn yeah

This was uh women can’t have sorry women can have standards but men can’t um she was interesting one she was really really interesting to me because um like every everything that that would go her way she was good with and anything that would that would go the

Way of a guy you know to his benefit she was not good with at all um and made a huge stink about so many things it was um the tattoo thing was her big one before before we get into that if anybody goes back and rewatches this episode I think the most interesting

Thing to me about Caitlyn was you can see her body language and her level of comfort change over the course she had like a tank to on and she was just like chilling and by the end of it after we’ had some tough conversation she was C up

Into a ball on the couch with a sweater on and just in the fetal position essentially you know really really interesting class on on nonverbals in body language but yeah her her big issue was the idea that she had a guy that expected her to pay for his kids

Schooling or chip in for his kids schooling and yet and and and she that was a standard that she wasn’t willing to do but on the flip side there was an example of a friend of hers who had a tattoo of her deceased husband her um

Past husband and we said well that’s a choice she made but that doesn’t mean that we have to date her or accept it and that was where um she had an issue she got real bent out of shape when it was like well I’m going to disqualify

Your friend because she has a tribute tattoo of another man on her body right like she’s holding a place in her heart she’s been Alpha widowed by this guy and a constant reminder of what you will never live up to yeah and it’s like you know this tattoo is now on on this

Woman’s body and we as men are not allowed to have a standard but she’s allowed to have a standard about the way that you know she wants to interact in relationships and men have to look past certain things yeah there was a lot of a lot of moving Parts with that episode um

You know with Caitlyn and it’s like they don’t have any self-awareness around and I don’t think they’ll ever go back and watch it and be like Oh huh okay okay that makes sense now I understand why you know rich and moff were talking about things like that

And trying to enlighten me like I don’t think they’ll ever come back to the self-awareness like they’ll always be stuck on you know how it made them feel right because women are you know these emotional creatures and it’s like you know well how do we how do I feel

After having this conversation you know about this that or the other thing and it’s like I don’t feel very comfortable I’m throwing on layers on clothes there’s a pillow on my lap getting very you know pulled back and you know angry at just about anything that’s said and

It’s real funny cuz Jessica was sitting there on the other side of the screen sort of just nodding and agreeing with everything that we were talking about it was just it was just such a rush man again one of them in a successful relationship slm marriage and one of

Them not not yeah exactly and I mean it’s very rare that we found I think the only one that I can think of who was a traditional and I wish we had been able to die I kind of dove into this with her a little bit but I don’t remember

Getting a really straight answer was was Danica was the nurse from Winnipeg and she also so for a quick backstory for for those that don’t know and didn’t watch I originally invited her on the show she turned me down at first because she was seeing somebody and she actually

Did what I only know of two people that did this I mean other women might have done this but I don’t know of them checked with her guy that she was seeing or checked with hus one of the women said let me check with my husband let me

Check with my boyfriend but only two of them have done that and he said oh I’m not cool with it I don’t you know think it’s proper to be on a show talking about dating relationships what if sex comes up and I just don’t think that’s

Appropriate and she dm’ me back and she said hey he’s not cool with it I’m old school I respect him I was like Hey fair enough like cool that’s that’s that’s fair and then like a week later she’s like yeah it didn’t work out with the

Guy I’ll come on but she she uh early 30s 33 34 and she claimed to be very traditional and I kind of just said well you know you she was married before and I said well if you’re so traditional and you sort of embody a lot of these traits and you get

On with a lot of the stuff you talk about what’s not working what are you doing and her answer was basically I’m a hermit I don’t go out so Jessica was a great example of somebody who was very intentional about what she wanted and she went out and she

Made an effort and she got it and she ultimately won the guy that she wanted to be with whereas Dan along with a lot of these other women are just waiting for the world to drop Prince Charming at their front door and think that they can

Just go home from their job and eat ice cream and watch Netflix and he’s just gonna he’s just gonna find his way to their house because he took the wrong turn or something like that like they live in a Hallmark movie and it’s just not the reality by any

Stretch yeah um I got another screen here queued up uh you’re going to remember these ones because uh you got this smug one over here even even the uh pause screen capture has you know the smug look on it um but the title of that one was uh boss

Baby calls rich and [ __ ] basically you know we invited the girls on to sort of have a dialogue in conversation and what these two had done was essentially planed to come on and just be like disagreeable with no context around the reasoning Rhyme or why and it’s like you

Know they don’t like we don’t know anything about these gals I mean I really know even less than you you know before we even start the show because I mean I’ll I’ll sometimes get their you know social media you know in advance or it’s on the screen and I’ll pull it up

As we’re sort of uh chatting about something and it’s like somebody um for this Jillian girl um looked her up in the comments and I think she got fired from a radio station or something like that and there was a big story about it

But but I mean the two of them had like a very peppered uh past even though they were in their 30s hadn’t got anything that they wanted we were offering useful solutions to the problems that they were encountering and the entire context of it was basically totally

Unaware of what men want nor caring what men want and just want to do to enter their frame um I think that can be summed up with women wanting men to be their Che cheerleader I think that women have been told somewhere somehow I don’t

Know if it’s a function of media or Lady Gaga or cardi b or whatever it happens to be that women should no longer cheerlead men and do anything useful in their life or be respectful and instead they want men to cheerlead them I mean we saw that a few times there was uh

Another gal that um you know was talking about dating a a tech startup guy that was super you know successful and she wanted him to cheerlead her I think it was on writing a book or something yeah but yeah yeah yeah that popped up a lot too yeah I mean

Jillian’s biggest problem with us so so Jillian and Jordan knew each other they were friends and that this was the first time that I experimented with having two people that knew each other yeah and I thought that might open up more dialogue and more conversation which it did but they clearly came armed

With an agenda I mean and and Jordan you know nailed a lot of the red flags right off the bat single mother two different fathers bunch of tattoos heavily tattooed yeah um and Jillian Jillian was far more concerned with the way things were said than what was

Actually said Jan was was was very like I’m I’m conservative I’m Christian I want a traditional you know you know type of relationship and it’s like oh good so you must be a virgin then because you’ve been saving yourself for your husband and it’s like no no so like

That’s one of the things that I notice a lot too is a lot of this like I’m I’m very conservative I’m very Christian and I you know want to find a guy that you know puts God first and all that sort of stuff it’s like good so then you must

Have save yourself for your husband it’s like no no no I’ve been I’ve been sharing myself with a lot of men actually right um yeah she also fell into the atory of a lot of women we’ve seen that say you know because she she did self admit she goes well I made some

Mistakes in my 20s and I didn’t realize till I was about 27 or 28 and I needed to change but here she is 35 and singing like what the hell you been doing for the last eight years right I mean what where’s the maybe you quote unquote

Recognize it but even most recently we had christe on and she’s you know 35 36 and she’s oh I made a lot of mistakes in my 20s but here I am dating you know a 23y old dude that calls me stepmom in his phone right or that um you know

So where’s the disconnect you know you realize that it’s a problem you understand that you’ve got an issue and you’re not where you are why why are you not taking this proper is it ignorance or is it just you know is it like an

Alcoholic I know I’m a I know I have a problem but I can stop I don’t have a problem I can stop anytime I want to right I know it’s not good for me but I can stop any time and then now it’s know 40 years later and that anytime turned into

Never yeah look man there’s there’s so many interesting things that’s you know happened over the course of this for the last uh four or five months you know that we’ve been doing it um I think it’s probably one of the most interesting shows that I’ve done I’ve enjoyed doing

Them with you you got any points that I miss that you want to take up as well too you know I think that man I just I like what we’re doing as far as unsolicited advice goes I think that’s probably become that’s quickly become my favorite part because for one you know

Any woman want to come on and argue yeah and you know just take their wind out of their sales but I think that’s the way they I think that’s a way that makes sense not only for us to say it but for them to hear it because in a way like I

Think for any any woman to hear this type of advice she needs an out she needs to know she needs to think you don’t have to listen to this you can think we’re stupid you can think we’re dumb you can think we’re misogynist you can think all of that

You’re well entitled to do that perfectly fine if that’s what you think but here’s what we think anyway right and and maybe they say okay well I think somebody that says like hey look like you don’t have to take this deal but here’s why maybe you should at least

Listen if you decide to say hey screw you guys forget it I don’t want everyone to come on the show you’re fine that’s your prerogative no problem we’re not going to be mad but here’s what we have to say and I think it’s worked well I think that the approach that we’ve been

Able to sort of go at this with as opposed to we don’t point fingers we don’t name call we don’t tell them they’re going to you know die alone we’re not going to tell them that no man’s going to want them we don’t tell them that they’re worthless we just say

Here’s what we think I think one of the things too that a lot of these women don’t realize we have to sort of remind them and this and this is also a combination of them just not knowing but the kinds of guys that they’re going after are all the

Same guy and they’re also the type of guy that we hang around with every day that we have in our community that we spend time with one-on-one that we do trips with that we do meetups with that we have private events with you know world class athletes and doctors and and

Lawyers and finance you know professionals and guys that have gone out and really kicked ass in the world and continue to do it every day and we know what those guys wanted women we know who they’re dating we know who they’re not dating and

So who better to ask and to come to than guys like you and me right if we have direct access to the guys that you ladies want and we spend time with them on a daily basis maybe we know what we’re talking about or if we can sit

Here and show that the things that we talk about the women that agree with it are in happy ltrs and relationships maybe know what we’re talking about you know the disheartening thing a lot of times is I’ll think we get a real breakthrough I go back to one of the

First shows we did um with Anna who everybody accused of her being on her like in her underwear she had short shorts on or whatever that was the first time of a few times that the analogy of the bag of bricks came out we talk about trauma hauling this bag of bricks that

You think is a badge of honor but nobody can see it it’s invisible and all it does is weigh you down which I think is a very powerful and cogent analogy and the last 15 minutes is really where is really the first time since we did the show where I was like

We might have something here and she was super appreciative after the show and she um you know dm’d me and said this was great you know it was painful to hear but I’m really grateful for it and then she sent me a C screenshots a couple days later some guys that R her

DMS that were like not all men are a-holes we’re not all like rich and moth like you’re amazing just the way you are like don’t listen to those guys and it’s like you know everything that we maybe and just that because they’re just B it’s just they’re bombarded from every

End by people that are these male feminists and these people that are trying to siing bring them down yeah let’s talk about is she’s actually in a relationship now so yeah oh yeah yeah she’s in a happy relationship I’m I’m happy to say so a lot of these gals do get um you

Know DMS or messaged by the guys because their social media is in in their bio like it’s just below their name um what are some of the uh DMS that you’ve heard because I mean like we were talking about this months ago where like you know maybe we’ll start to reveal some of

These things to the public the I think it’s been one of two things one you get some that are pretty nasty I think uh and they’re also they misrepresent anything that we’ve done on the show right you know I’ve seen girls that have shown me DMS and they go hey

Um this guy in the comment without she doesn’t add her own context she just sends me the the screenshot of it it goes Rich Cooper was right you’re nothing but a a thought and a 304 looking for attention online said on the show we’ve never said that I’m like

Show me the if you can show me the Tim stamp in the episode of that I’ll personally write you a check for $110,000 right it just doesn’t happen we don’t do that so and it’s a guy who uses a username in our comments that I recognize and so but

Then you have the sipping right then you have like the you know I saw you on MAF show and Rich’s show I you know don’t listen to those guys you’re just perfect the way you are the right guy will come along woman with a degree is so hot so

Sexy I love a woman who has a degree or or you get I call it sort of the the Pearly things treatment right where they say oh it’s so refreshing for like women women that may agree with us oh it’s so refreshing getting a female’s perspective on this even though it’s the

Exact same things that we’ve been saying for years they just think that it’s somehow more profound now that it’s coming out of a woman’s mouth right so um those are the three most common that I’ve seen just the downright assholish and nasty to the simping to the sort of

Like Diet siing I would say like pearly things is like Diet sipping you know it’s got a little bit of a flavor of it but it’s it’s an underlying siing and they they try to kind of do it you know on the down low what else has happened

You know you know behind the scenes that we haven’t told these guys about yet um we you know for most of them the most of them there’s there they’ve been it’s been overwhelmingly positive you know almost all of them have said I want to come back onto the show um I’ve seen a

Couple girls that at least one I don’t know about a couple but there’s at least one girl that came on who did not have any sort of only fans who then started one um and I don’t know if it was a springboard or if that was always the

Plan um there have been a few that came and watched some of the content after the fact Kayla is an example of she was came on the show and I think we had a really good dialogue and she was the one that said I can do all the blue jobs and

The pink jobs and then she came across uh a clip about single mothers and then she went to the comments and just you know was arguing and this and that and she was just getting cooked I felt bad but I tell women this I’m like look if

You decide to walk into the lion’s den and you want to start replying to comments you come back to YouTube or you go to Instagram and you like it’s fair game I will not you know like if you I I have a respect for any woman that comes

On our show right I don’t want to see anybody come on our show who’s honest and willing and open to share sometimes very deep and heartfelt sentiments per very personal information and then have that be used and weaponized against them I I hav’t I have a personal issue with

That but if you want to come in the comment section and you want to go Toe totoe with these guys who are basically professional commenters you know do so at your own Peril so I uh we’ve had women that have reached out that have loved the show

I’ve not I have surprisingly not gotten a single woman that’s reached out that said I saw the show you’re a [ __ ] misogynist I can’t believe you get women to come on I think you’re a liar and this and that um it’s been mostly positive so you know I got to think

We’re doing something right yeah I mean I’ve I’ve I’ve heard some narrative along the lines of you need to move away from the advice that you give you need to include um women on all ends of the spectrum whether they’re right leaning or left leaning um you need to Encompass more of

This set or the other thing and it’s like I get it you want you want me to put rainbows and butterflies on my words and make them sound prettier with sparkles on them and that’s not what I do you know I I have real conversations with real people

About real problems and I’ve yet to have anybody that comes back and says no I have a better solution than what you got rich I I I’m still waiting for that day when somebody calls in on one of my shows whether it’s a man or a woman and

Has an issue with something that I’ve dealt with and offered a solution to and said no you’re wrong about that here’s my solution and it’s better than yours because of this it’s it’s never happened um so as far as the recommendations to sort of like plate to a wider audience

Or a broader audience or soften or water down like I I already water down a lot of the content that I put out there trust me um the conversations that I have when the camera is off and the mic is off with my boys are not as watered

Down as what we have online so this is about as watered down as I can get guys it is what it is man um this is you know this is a this is an interesting project I think it’s a fun project um I’ve enjoyed doing it with you in 2023

Moff and I look forward to uh doing more and seeing how these goes I really like the integration of the unsolicited advice towards the end because women never ask you know we gave them lots of opportunities like hey you know do you have any questions for us you know what

Are you stuck on sort of thing and it’s like they don’t want to ask questions about problems that they have they want to pretend like everything is okay that’s that’s a big takeaway everything is okay I’m good uh I’ve got I’ve got guys on my phone that I can talk to all

I have to do is download an app and upload a few pictures and I got this you know sort of thing um so is not in their vocabulary it’s not something that comes natural to them or easy at all yeah um hang on we got a there’s a super chat here apparently we

Got uh KZ uh Jasmine should have had a chat with my friend she deals with stats for a living on YouTube well um cuz you I’ll let you connect with um moff on on that if you want um see if there’s a good fit for it but uh yeah I guess I

Again guys you know listen to what these gals say and then watch or pay a lot more attention to the choices you know you’re not going to see what they’re doing in a show but pay attention to the choices that they’ve been making and are going to continue to make versus the

Conversations that are being had and what they’re saying because they’re always seems to be a disconnect between some if not more of the words and the choices that are being made and I think that’s one of the interesting things that we’re seeing which is what I find we get

Praised for a lot in you know the work that we’re doing is that people are saying look man like like this is what I need we don’t need another Jerry Springer Show we don’t need another Mory povish with people freaking out and throwing chairs around or getting you

Know thrown off that I mean I really try hard not to remove anybody from a show I’ve only done it once and honestly Jasmine deserved it she’s she’s a lying sack of crap um just really on the show for the wrong reasons like not even trying to be useful or even have trying

To have useful dialogue and you can see that from the uh clips that are that are out there but yeah it’s fun you um we’re always going to have uh interesting chats with these gals I think as long and you know ladies if you’re watching

Us right now and you want to get on a show just DM off on Instagram and you know he’ll schedule you in for sure yeah yeah man it’s been great I’m glad we’ve done it it’s been a fun project I’m looking forward to doing more I mean

Guys you know look I I think you can go to any episode and take away some nuggets of value whether that’s women tend to be not so forthcoming and you kind of have to you know lead that horse to water and not expect them to answer

Direct questions I I think any guy who is looking to see how the modern women acts and how she talks this is a great example you know I again like I said we pulled women from all over the world we are not in some microcosm where we’re taking a very

Specific age or very specific demographic or a woman who is there specifically for promotion and you know clout I mean these are average everyday chicks that for the most part want to be in healthy happy long lasting relationships and so you know this is not about trying to change him this is

Not about trying to argue with him this is on one hand hey maybe we have some good conversations with some good chicks and maybe they can kind of see where they’re going wrong and we help a few of them along the way and maybe you’re a

Dude that is tired of you know Jerry Springer and you want to see how some civilized people can act and but maybe you know this this is not an opportunity for us to change your mind about the nature of women and trying to prove anybody wrong this is more so an

Experiment in how you should be doubling down on the stuff that we talk about because it’s become apparent you know these chck aren’t fed any lines they’re not fed scripts there’s very little dialogue that happens between the time they accept the invite and the show so they don’t get prepped they don’t study

Stuff um this is as real as it gets so do with that information what you will cool all right man um I guess we’ll wrap it up on that note I’m going to do a year end unplugged Alpha show later on this week I think it’s scheduled for

Friday around noon or one o’clock or something like that so uh pop in there and we’ll see you guys on Friday MAF you doing a ma hour this week or staying off no M hours tomorrow night with the travel I’ll be back um next Thursday the

Next Thursday is going to be about I know a lot of guys are going to want to you know get back in the gym after the holidays or start going to the gym so it’s going to be about strength program some of the best ones that I’ve found

Good ways to get strong and and like my top five strength programs for dudes that are looking to to put on some muscle and and move some weight all right guys we’ll see you next year for the next ladies night next Wednesday I think it’s 30ish or something like that

But yeah we’ll have three events