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Outright golf betting the smart BS don’t do it because it’s so stupid experienceat experienceat Experienceat experience experience welcome to the pat Mayo experience 10year anniversary the century Tournament of Champions bets picks preview it’s fun to be back talking about golf at that football ain’t going nowhere we still have our regular compliment of football shows throughout the week weirdly enough January the
Busiest month of the pat Mayo experience so a lot on the go so smash the like sub to the channel we’re not going anywhere Jeff fineberg is on the line but I do want to let you know right now the listeners league is now open on DraftKings that is down in the
Description but the big thing that we need to F you really need to do me a solid on this one the 2024 race for the Mayo cup one and done tournament is now open it’s 40% full at the moment it starts next week at the Sony Open so
This is prime time to go get one two three four or five up to five spots it is $200 to play in for the year so from the Sony Open through the BMW Championship in August just 200 bucks there’s $80,000 for first place everyone inside the top 10 gets five figures this year
So please let’s go fill it up but I am giving away a few free entries two at the moment probably more on the way here’s one way you can get in go reserve your spot right now get an entry screenshot it to me on Twitter boom
You’re in to draw for another entry this time for free but the one that is open to everyone you don’t have to get an entry to do this one and you can get up to two spots please leave a rating and review on the pat Mayo experience audio
Podcast on Apple SP Apple podcast or Spotify podcast and you know subscribe to the show obviously turn on auto down downloads that would always be very helpful for us and rate at five stars the episode question on this episode of Spotify if you click on the actual
Episode leave me who you think is going to win or at least your favorite bet at the current odds for the century Tournament of Champions that will get you ballots into the draw for a free entry I’ll be giving out those winners on this show next Monday with like I
Mentioned Jeff who’s on the line with me what’s up dude what is going on Happy New Year year 10 wow wow that just feels that just feels so silly like time time literally flies um the amount of things that have changed both in our our lives and like the
Ecosystem in itself like crazy but we’re here exciting exciting I I’m not gonna lie I didn’t like wake up like pep to talk golf I do wish they had a bit longer of an off season um part of me feels like like it’s it’s like 1998 and
I’m like that old hockey player who shows up to Camp like still smoking darts and drinking while all the Young Bucks are arriving like all their research ready I don’t know sometimes it takes me the whole few weeks to warm up to this [ __ ] pack cuz I wish they took
More time off not going to lie it’s been like six weeks since Golf and we really haven’t done a full Golf Show since Ryder Cup and before that was the Tour Championship even the Tour Championship was pretty half-ass cuz it’s a Terri field of like 30 players at least this
Is my favorite iteration of this tournament ever there’s 59 players in the field this time 60 were eligible Rory decided to skip it because of personal reasons but it’s an elevated event everyone besides Rory who’s a who’s who remaining on the PGA tour is still here although I went and looked at
The past two winners they both jumped to live so if you have any like inside knowledge of who’s going to jump to live I say we bet them this week yeah I’m a big John ROM is a big deal kind of guy but you’re right this field is so
Strong you don’t really really feel it um I’m G to miss him still doesn’t feel right but it’s the world in which we live in and the saddest part is I don’t think most people actually do miss him and I don’t think people are running to
Watch live golf because he’s there but I digress we talked about all of this in our year in review show which you can find on the Pod feed and up on Mayo media Network’s YouTube channel right now so again please go subscribe to that we will have a full yearly major preview
And predictions dropping on Friday this week the draftking show this week will be on Tuesday it will normally be on Wednesday I’m just trying to reconfigure the schedule so I don’t have like three shows dropping on one day and then like no shows dropping another day so we’re
Going to try to spread it out throughout the week degenerate 75 is going to be on with me Tambo will take that spot starting next week at the Sony Open but yeah he’s got a lot going on right now over at shipet Nation so if you want to
Hear from Tambo he’ll be on fantasy golf degenerates this evening breaking it all down with Kenny Kim and then over at chipet Nation doing all that fun stuff as well but I will have your draftking show for you do not worry about that the
Big Goal though is to get in the one and did you remember to reserve your spot while you were not in Ontario you did it right I did and thank you like honestly I didn’t even think about it until you mentioned it to me when we were
Recording last week so thank you I I would have felt so dumb had I forgotten to do that I am in I’ll be challenging for last place per usual never following my own rules uh and I’ll be giving up quickly but I’m in and if anyone like
Michigan and Ontario are the two big ones I suppose anyone overseas as well it’s not open it’s restricted in those areas what you need to do is find a relative or a friend to go enter the tournament if they are in a different place you can make your picks from
Anywhere in the world you just have to register in illegal place so find someone in illegal place you know send them the 200 bucks they can register for you then boom you can make your picks from anywhere that is the best way to do it please share it around uh as well I
Can just see over the past hour there’s 150 new spots gone so it’s gonna as per usual it usually fills by real now yeah well it’s golf is finally back it’s really excited I went and reviewed my results from this stupid tournament over the past four years I’ve hit the second
Place finisher three of the past four years has not been a fun go Neeman lost it in a playoff for us to Harris English of all people obviously Mora Cowan and six-stroke Lead evaporated on us Patrick Reed and Xander who I had both of them lost in a playoff to Justin Thomas in
2020 this this tournament is just pure sadness for me it does not start the year off well for my betting needs yeah you should be looking for like an exact second place finish Pat um yeah no I haven’t had the the close calls that you have I remember being
Burned on that Justin Thomas one where he flipped those wedges in uh but yeah no I’ve usually been out of this one pretty pretty quickly clearly have no idea what I’m doing yeah so for those people who don’t miss John ROM I am one of those people because he stole my
Money here he stole my money at Riviera last year so good riddens to John ROM he can beat it and I will say I actually do believe I know it’s so silly cuz he’s one guy but I don’t know in this moment I feel like stuff kind of will feel wide
Open for a little for a little unless unless Sheffer learned how to putt then we’re all [ __ ] yes of course but that for a guy that good he still has that Bugaboo where you’re like okay I’ll take my chances um and there still is like I’m the biggest Fanboy of hland ever there
There still is a chance like it doesn’t happen and then you know like these numbers now represent no value ever I don’t know I I’m I believe maybe this could be a year where the betting range that I just adore like I’ll argue like it’s almost like 25 through 45
Sometimes 50 could be too rich for my blood uh yeah three man Power Cards in my betting range I feel like this could be a year I I need I need a better year I need to go back to when we first started the show 10 years ago and I was
Hitting winners every 3 weeks maybe the market is better maybe I’m just more of a [ __ ] like you mentioned a lot has changed over 10 years we’re no longer outside smoking a joint before we do the show between us we have five kids now yeah and we record way earlier than we
Did later so uh I’m usually still high from the night before when we’re recording uh let’s be honest and getting the kids up early enough to school but on that notepad like so things I was trying because it’s always about I’m very regimented I don’t like to change
And people early in the year probably always hear me do this no I’m not even going to have that conversation about each ways unless it’s like super bombs and majors and and and and like extended placings I don’t give a [ __ ] my water will find its level what I do think and
I think like smarter people in real life do this is they don’t make emotional decisions and sometimes on Monday morning I’m betting emotionally paranoid about a number missing a number but I think anyone in like who does real life business or makes real life deals would
Rather make a good deal at even a smaller number than like a bad deal at a bigger number emotionally um I know I might have said a lot to say nothing but I I I don’t feel like I need to be rushed and the market has changed when we started this
I didn’t feel like we had to run I didn’t feel like I had to run on Monday to like click or everything’s going to bottom out on guys now it does I swear but I don’t know I just want to make my bets with less
Emotion um than I than I feel like I have been the last couple years and I think I need to revert back the other way and start betting with more emotion and not just look at my numbers and just be like yeah this guy’s hot let’s bet
Him like I missed on Jason Day last year for really no reason other than like yeah need Jason days and he keeps coming in second like you can’t win and then of course he wins and I miss out on it the only time I did that last year was when
I bet Ricky in Detroit and it was like okay it worked yeah and I I didn’t um because it’s just like I can be happy for him and not win um yeah so but I don’t know I’m sure by the time we get to Tori everything I’ve
Tried to teach myself or like everything I’ve tried to do will be blown up and I’ll be back to my same old habits we shall see but um yeah I don’t know I feel like I I said the 25 to 40s but I feel like even
Long shots I don’t know I feel like everything kind of feels live everything kind of feels live in this new world I hope so because I it’s not a new world it’s the same old world yeah I just don’t want to see a bunch of eight to
Ones win because that means I’m going to be losing money I mean I lose money anyway every single year although I didn’t two years ago that was nice but last year was not a great year for me I need to get back into something new at
Least I might try to call it the four or the five this year or maybe the three and like these are the three bets that I’m going to make outright and just ride or die with that instead of trying to be like oh you know I’ll allocate this many
Units and I’ll have these Bombs over a 100 to one and these guys in this range just like I’m gonna bet like four guys and that’s going to be it the funnest part about golf betting is and you can do this with any sport really but you really do get a Choose
Your Own Adventure like you can find a thing that like works for you but it literally works for no one else and it’s hard to explain to other people but it’s this like little system you have and every year it has you coming up on top and you know whether that be with
Outrights or or matchups or single day matchups or or place like all of it like Choose Your Own Adventure find your lane do what it does I I I don’t know I’m still just a sucker Pat I love that fun with the outrights love that fun with
The outrights but I’m going to keep [ __ ] more I got in the habit of doing it late last year and I was proud of myself I was just like way more condensed with my bets with my cards was not all over the place like uh I can when things can get
Sloppy and I’m hopefully I can stick to that I’m gonna try to do the exact same thing and like you said we’ll get to Tory Pines and I’ll completely forget about all of that and just start wasting money again however if you don’t want to waste money you want to invest money
Fantasy national.com is where you need to go use fantasy national.com Mayo you get yourself 20% off now is the best time to get the annual deal because it takes you January through January you get the entire golf season all the tools all the research tools the lineup generator the simulator
Everything and there might be something coming down the pike at Fantasy National a tool we’ve been working on for geez over 2 years at this point hopefully it’s going to be ready by the end of the month don’t want to promise it but only fantasy ational members will have first
Access to it as we put it through the beta version but I can almost guarantee you you are going to enjoy if it works what it’s going to be I told you about it I showed you the screenshots of it right yeah it’s it’s quite exciting it’s a game changer is what it
Is um yeah I mean in this whole like cluster exploitive of like tracking everything and how things can sometimes be so convoluted it actually something I think people will quickly um appreciate I would think so I mean when we first launched fantasy National I was in 2017 now the whole impetus
Behind it was hey I have 38 tabs open at the top of my screen and need to go to this site for this thing and this site for this thing and this site for this thing hey what if we just built a site that had all of it in one spot so you
Wouldn’t have to go running around trying to find this information if we put it all in one place then people will enjoy using I think that they have over the years we do really want to make the site better in 2024 that’s really been something that we moose and I have been
Really trying to work on but this tool is kind of taking over our lives and I do think it will be what fantasy National was in 2017 this extra tool will not change how you follow Golf and track golf but it will just make it so much easier and
Better that’s my pitch for you Jeff I’m already in that’s true you don’t have to you don’t have to uh I mean yeah I me year 10 I can’t believe it so let’s talk about kaaloa again you’re 25 at kaaloa for the sentury no longer just the Tournament of Champions all of last
Year’s previous winners are in and the top 50 in the FedEx Cup Justin Thomas is neither one of those things so he is not here despite having won this tournament twice in the past seven years we can cross him off the list don’t need to
Lose money on G this early in the season I doubt he shows up to Sony because of this or how many of these guys are going to stick around and play Sony I guess we’ll see when that field is announced next week at Wy one of my favorite
Tournaments and again the kickoff to the one and done leave those rating and reviews I can’t stress that enough we really need the help at this time of the year me especially with things going on in my professional life that even if you’ve done the rating and reviews
Before please do them again and there’s the giveaways at the end of the rainbow to you know incentivize you a little bit but you know turn on those Auto downloads rating and reviews tell friend retweets everything like that especially in the month of January is going to be
So helpful for both me and to you people for having more content more free content I’m actually going to try to get the model Maniac on the line with me too Byron who wrote an awesome eway article a top 20 dead heat article over baller I
Linked it in my newsletter last week if people want to go back and check that out it’s free to sub to down in the description that I think understanding some of these markets a little bit more is going to be pretty critical I got lost in that article in like a
Good way um while while traveling these past week so I enjoyed it thoroughly even like for someone like me who feels like he’s been betting golf since he was interning for cam like 18 years ago I still like reminded learn again like uh there’s there’s information in
There even if you’ve been betting golf for the last 20 years plus um I thought it was great works so Props I’m doing a draft with those guys later this week you think I should if I said it I should have more information but uh me me and
Model maniac and some others are going to be in a draft I believe live on on Tuesday night Pat so it’s nice people nice that you get invited to these things and no one invites me people just probably assume you are too busy because you probably are it’s that
Could be true you know I like to be ass we’ve spoken about this for that people in in Li of asking me they just ask you because you’ll say yes for sure I was I don’t know maybe I listen they could all I have benefited in many
Ways from people asking you you saying no and then them asking me so I don’t know they could do it in any order I have nothing to I can’t complain um but by the time we do a forever show on football this week with Tim I’m going to have to do that you
Would want no part of this trust me okay I don’t want to take your spot I’m not here to take your spot no no no no no no um yeah so where were we kaaloa I love it pat well back to year 10 it’s the fact outright golf
Betting the smart betters don’t do it because it’s so stupid but we love it because it’s fun and you just do it responsibly and you’ll come out on top or you should you hope doesn’t take much you know just a couple strikes of lightning and you’ll will be fine and as
Much as lightning striking is unlikely it it happens so I love it and also Pat it’s a silly thing to say but as someone that is sort of like really other than being an insane Chargers fan like his Lane on the Internet is outright golf people can say what they want it almost
Makes you like immune from criticism people expect you to be wrong which is nice yeah you’re oh [ __ ] I was wrong in outright golf like what I’m not like picking 5050 propositions like I really just know outright golf’s my thing you want to like make fun of me
Because my pcks suck like that’s okay but these are outright golf picks um and we’re here we’re having fun don’t get me wrong I’m not trying to lose my own money or money for anyone else who trusts me but I’m just saying like you talk to Piza like they laugh at like
People like outright golf betting like what sort of edge can you have in betting outright don’t get me wrong there’s you could still find them but think you know what I’m saying so here we go I’m putting on my bulletproof vest again for year 10 and I got something
Crazy I might do this week because I want to feel alive Pat I want to feel alive I woke up today the day after New Year’s feeling a little dead there’s a beted I could make that would make me feel alive I like it caloa Plantation par
73 just a shade under 7600 yard Bermuda grass greens one of the wildest swings in elevation that you’re going to see at any course this season I think it’s 600 feet from top to bottom and I I again I was talking to cust about it yesterday because he keeps calling it The Augusta
Of Hawaii and then claims there should be major championships played here there should not be major championships played here the Striking resemblance as I told him is it’s just the massive swings and elevation you’re going to have a lot of really janky lies downhill uphill sideways so you need to be able to
Circumvent those Waters a little bit or at least become acclimated to how those shots can play and usually that takes first timers a round or two I mean some guys can just hop into it we’ve seen at the Masters as well someone like Jordan spe has had no problems either here or
At Augusta or at TPC Deer Run which is another one that has some elevation swings and a lot of uneven lies throughout the course of the season so just keep those ones in mind if you’re looking for longer shots down but the good players tend to show up here I did
Me mention Harris English that’s sort of an outlier of the winners that we’ve seen at this tournament over the years and giant greens giant giant giant green they’re like 8700 square foot Greens on average so if you’re not hitting Greens in regulation you’re not doing anything right here a lot of three putts
Though tons of three putts slow greens and not gay not gay walks the fairways with a Ruler I forgot about that how nice is it to be flipping on we’ll flip on because it doesn’t start till late because they’re on Hawaii time obviously so you get your Prime Time Golf Thursday night it’s going to be most likely freezing wherever you’re at because it’s going to
Be know 11: 1100 p.m. in the evening uh pure Darkness probably like a sheet of ice over something because it’s right around freezing then you tune in to Golf Channel it just looks so lovely yeah so lovely they’re they’re playing great uh birdie bonanzas right someone’s this is where DJ almost had
The hole in one on the par four right correct because there are there are some of these holes some of the longer par fours might be downhill so you can get to them and this is on the coast so it can be wildly wind assisted like that is
The only protection this course has because the fairways are the biggest on the PGA tour in terms of width the greens are the largest there’s not a lot of rough because it’s hard to get off the fair away but it can start blowing pretty badly like when Justin Thomas won
I think it was the first time it was at-4 maybe that was the second time but then we saw cam Smith win at minus 33 two years ago so it can kind of go either way I’m always expecting like any bed I make is for birdie Bonanza well let’s do
That then let’s get into the odds draftking sports book right now Scotty sheffler is the favorite at 6 to1 Vic is 8 to1 H and morawa both 12 to1 Xander Klay and your boy ludvig oel 14 to1 Tom Kim and Jordan spe both 22 to1 Matthew
Fitzpatrick at 25 and TL Aton Tony fow Tommy Fleetwood and Sun JJM all come in at 30 to1 two names jumped out to me right away but I didn’t I didn’t Panic bet them I wasn’t like you know what if I lose a point on this that’s okay in
Fact I found even better numbers at other spots so it’s good news for me on that front but actually there’s three names that jumped out to me obviously I cannot bet all three of them because that wouldn’t make sense and trying to win money but for me it was Max hom
Colin morawa revenge for Colin morawa and Tom Kim who was T5 in his debut here a year ago so two of those names came to me in morawa and Tom Kim for a lot of obvious reasons but there were other names Pat when I said said like you want to feel I
Don’t know whether when I said like feeling alive necessarily I don’t know that it’d be a good feeling you know like some Shock treatments could make you feel alive like you just want to feel something part of me wants to feel something and B into the bad guys the
Nasty boys this Duo of Xander and kley just ready to flip Birds Xander especially like he has always been been great here I like him almost as much as I like morawa and Tom Kim but yeah I don’t know I got some psycho thoughts on a narrative Street play this
Week um both those guys have been excellent at this tournament Xander won it in his second appearance in 2019 then finished top five the next two years 13th or 12th sorry the year after that ewed a year ago klay’s never finished worse than 16th at this tournament he’s
Coming fourth twice so I think that makes a ton of sense obviously morawa was the runner-up he’s never finished worse than seventh at this event in his career so there’s just a lot of different ways that you can play this uh weirdly hland has been the one who’s
Really sucked at this course and that makes no sense to me yeah I guess in the preh hovin could win on Mainland we probably thought this would be a great place for him I don’t really have an answer to that I didn’t really give him thought at all like I
Didn’t I’m not I look right through Victor hin at 8 to one this is just bets I I can’t make in the same way I’m probably looking through Scotty Sheffer at that number and as for ludvic Pat like what the [ __ ] like what’s like the only place left to go is single
Digits well there’s another side to that as well we no no no I mean if he’s good like there’s nowhere left to go now like what do you mean do he’s more like look at who he’s with um and trust me I’m as I’m I go full full eggplant
For him but I’m not I don’t know I’d be curious to see the bedding splits on this like I know like je uh uh Jeff Sherman golf odds you know sometimes will put something out closer to the tournament and I’ll be just fascinated to see how that plays out but back to
The dudes I was talking about the nasty boys um like you could pull 17 to ones on them those are like a clip on like we’ve seen them steam at Majors to those numbers maybe they’re oh maybe people have a new vision for the new year and they’re sick
Of losing money on these guys exactly and I can’t believe it if you’d have told me like not a chance in the world not a chance in the world there’s a lot of things that have happened I didn’t think would happen but I didn’t think I’d be here the first
Morning on golf being like you know what those losers I think I want to give them my money I don’t know I’m contemplating it I’ve only made one bet so far and it’s way way way back so I could do whatever I want here but I’m thinking about it and I think
The numbers are really fair and normally I would think of those guys as like just on total vacation like total vacation those lawnmowers aren’t even Revan I got a feeling they’ve both got Revan lawnmowers right now like ready to go that they’ve been playing their friend
Rounds ready to be like we are going to I don’t know I’m not even a fan I’m a fan of losing money I guess but I think the number like Xander shof you can get 17 to1 here oh he’ll miss the S I don’t know okay not emotional not emotional we’re
Doing nothing yet nothing yet I can’t see a world where I don’t bet morawa to get my money back I like I like that as well if I wasn’t stupid and having these thoughts of like just going down the well in some narrative place I think I would already
Have bet morow at the biggest number available the biggest number I can find is 15 to one right now yeah that’s like if I had to make a bet right now like I was on a shot clock that would like I just feel fine I wouldn’t feel alive but
I would just be like okay that’s a good bet I think that would be the more I think I’d walk out of with morawa i’ clicked twice if but I got nothing in my hand to click if you are looking for a future bet obviously we’re going to go
Through the ones that we like for the majors and frankly there aren’t a ton because the major Market is worse than your regular week PGA Market with all the value sucked out of it it’s better to bet the majors now unless you can find some sort of number out there and
Catch them sleeping essentially all the value is beaten out of them until the week of and then people readjust odds and guys fall down the board a little bit because as you’ve pointed out over the course of the past three years guys don’t fall down on major boards anymore
If someone is 20 to1 they’re staying 20 to1 regardless of how they play until that week guys can only kind of move up if a guy is 80 to1 and they have a great week well now all of a sudden they’re 40 to1 and they’ll never go below 40 to1
Again however in the to win a PGA Tour event Market on some sites that are out there where you can bet on the previous year’s winner there is a Tony feno 18 to1 to win the Mexico open here’s the problem I don’t know if he’s going to
Play in the Mexico open but since that tournament became a thing two years ago only two players have gone to play that tournament like two legitimate players I obviously it’s a full field like I had baa last year and he came third I wish he would have won that would have been
Nice but he didn’t Tony fena won because he also beat John ROM so John ROM was the other guy that used to go to that tournament now he is obviously out of the PGA Tour so he cannot go Fina went off at that tournament 8 to won last
Year and now Rah is gone if he decides to play it I can almost guarantee you no other top star is going to go play Yeah remember ROM was four fena was eight um now you can get now you can get him at 18 18 they probably would refund if he
Doesn’t play I don’t know I don’t know if that’s the case or not but I got I played last year Pat the Tom Kim WAMS or no what was after the open where he withdrew we had like 30 to it was incredible and they paid me they I was
Shocked it was a book that I would have had to respect them I’m from the age where I can’t like beg for a refund like I learned from cam Stewart like if I mention that sort of thinking around Gabe and cam again when I in like I’d have been smacked I’d have been
Kicked out I would have lost my internship probably like that’s how egregious it is to even fun but now you can get away with it but to my point I think you can make those bets somewhat comfortably you would get a refund if they don’t play because I got a we all
Got refunds on those who bet those Tom Kims last year on a book in which like their hardliners they’re old school and they gave the refunds well you can find this bet under 2024 specials on a site that’s open 365 days a year under the
Element of to win a PGA Tour event I have placed the wager at 18 to1 on Tony Fina if I lose my money because he doesn’t play and they don’t refund it then I’ll go to Twitter and blast them online Jeff I have no sh you want to
Laugh the book there’s a book I still have Tony F now they still on the on the sketchier site that offers these sorts of things in my pending I still have this bet from last year Tony feno to win the 3M they still haven’t graded did it he didn’t
Win no but it’s annoying to look at Tony fow to win the 3M open I I had it 20 to1 last year um I’m looking at it as I can see my Justin Herbert to win MVP and Super Bowl MVP 250 to one prop which um they haven’t graded either which I don’t
Want to look at you’re holding on to it though maybe it can still happen no I don’t want to look at it I want them to take it away so now when I look at my golf bets I don’t see that that would be a good feature any sports book wants to
Implement that that if you can go to your pending bets or your still open bets that you can like hide them if you want to so you don’t have to see all your losers anymore genus H that is like a simple feature some of us would
Appreciate it I just don’t want to look at it I don’t want to look at it hide hide it hide it oh my God there’s some Raiders on ERS too I’d rather not look at think are still pushing take a bath on something one of the popular bets that I’ve seen at least
Manifesting around the internets so far is spe spe at 22 to1 does that interest you because I I understand the number is pretty good I think I would prefer Tom Kim at that number although spe has won at this tournament before I just like the way that Tom Kim
Comes in playing he won at the Shriners played well here last year it’s been sort of a downturn for Speed at this tournament over the past few years not to say that he can’t win this tournament obviously he can but I don’t know why everyone was just so bullish on Jordan
Spe I mean I lean Tom Kim because you know we did a preview show a couple weeks ago and I projected him to have like a Skyrocket season so I’m that loser who’s almost like bets the team he wins the World Series to win game one of
1162 because he picked him to win the World Series that’s how my brain works Pat so that’s why in just this debate for this week Ian Tom Kim I do obviously understand the speed love there’s such a high range of outcomes with him it’s the Boomer bust and he’s loved it here he’s
Played well here and it’s funny to think last year that was the putter that let him down and there people that can trust him can trust him on this golf course and can trust him that he will have fixed the putter I can see it the other one in
This range at 30 to one I was actually giving some consideration to people are going to hate this but it is Tony fena suits him I’m not surprised you went I’m surprised you said it um I don’t hate that at all it does make a bit of sense you do hope the offseason
Did him good yeah he didn’t play from the Tour Championship until we got to the hero that was the first time that we saw him he came in fourth at the hero then he played in the team event the next week came forth with that I don’t really care
About that but you know it’s nice to see that he’s playing some decent golf he’s had some pretty decent results here in the past as well he’s played it four times he’s come inside the top 10 twice including a t7 last year it was just
More the odds where I know that he has experienced with this course I always like him better on slower greens these are some of the slowest Greens on tour and accuracy off the tea isn’t really that big of an issue it’s just going to become like a wedge and putting Fest on
Slow Bermuda which is something Tony can do I agree with all of that I I don’t think many people will want to trust him out of the gate after after last year but it does seem like an ideal feno fit I would probably rather bet feno than spe but
I’m a sucker there and the odds well the odds are a lot different too 22 to1 on Jordan Speed 30 to1 or maybe better on Tony Fina like it just comes down to an odds bet if I if I rate them as having the same chance of winning then I would
Take the guy with the GS I lost all my browsers and I’m trying to restore them and I feel like cam I I mean I only briefly mentioned H I like I mean when we spoiler alert for the Friday show we talked about Tom Kim
As a guy who could rise inside like I mean he is a part of the World Elite but like a truly Elite player I think that H has that ability this year to really take the next step up he’s done it almost each of the past three years the
Next the the final step for him is to start competing at Majors and winning big tournaments like he even went to South Africa and won an event during the offseason like dude is ready he’s ready to make the leap and I I don’t love the odds but I could see myself betting H
And morawa and then two guys from down on the board and then I have my four so I I’ve long admitted I’ve spent a year admitting like I was a slow to adopt like to just the acceptance of Max hom was just hard for me but I’m like
Totally there um I’m not betting him this week but I will no longer ever question where they put him on the odds board like he is totally legit every year he he just in my own like ranking like yes they’re the rankings and the odds but it’s like in your own head like
You have your guys in tears and he just keeps like I’ve been reluctant to just keep bumping him and bumping him up right he there’s no stopping now there’s no stopping now I believe what you’re projecting is very possible for a lot I I haven’t played it it’s not really for
Me but I would argue his and I think you made the point his major Futures if we want to talk about Fair where it’s kind of really hard to track down Fair major prices his for like the open or the PGA uh the US opens seem like ones that I
Would put in that category for sure and he finally got a top 10 at a major last year which was the first time he was able to do that in his career and you know Patrick Reed took him a long time to get a top 10 at a
Major and boom the moment he does it he wins the next major at the Masters so I don’t think that home is going to win The Masters but I could see him being more live in major championships this year based on the path that he’s followed the past few years and
Elevating his game every time for me it’s going to come down to morawa or and I’m going to bet morawa it’s just another of me betting morawa but he did win in Japan he finally got off the schneide he was dominating this course a year ago until the back nine of the
Final round he had a complete meltdown and ROM caught him sucks it was horrible to watch in real time when you had a lot of money on Calla morawa but here we are so I’m going to go back to that I think if I take morawa that kind
Of takes me out of the hom range as well like four 15 to1 14 to1 than the rest it’s doable but that means I leave Tom Kim or fow or someone else in that range by the wayside and maybe that’s what I end up doing but I don’t know if I’m
There yet in terms of committing to H like I’m going to commit to morawa so for me it’s morawa from 30 to1 in below who do you think you’re GNA take is it gonna be can’t lean Xander I’m gonna bet Tom Kim and I’ve seen it as high as 28
To1 done and I will probably still make one decision below that um but Tom Kim and now and I have a I do have a long I do have a long shot I do have a long shot and I’m always I bet you I know who it is yeah he’s probably really popular
He’s gonna be popular all year right I I would think well I saw SK I saw Sky tweet about theala a little bit earlier I assume that’s the guy that you’re on yeah uh I took toala I don’t play no eway I took enhanced win 90 to one I’ll
Probably regret it when he comes in third but I’m just um I’m in at these sort of numbers I’ll play to his ceiling that it can he can hang with how he strikes it I saw a sky was tweeting out sky sky sky hook on Twitter Skyler hook
Who hosts our DP World Tour picks and Bets show on Mayo media Network along with Tom Jacobs was that theala and spe are very similar in terms of their skill set what their upside is what their overall skills can be they you know their ball striking can be wildly
Inconsistent they have like real upside with putting and short game even though that too is not all consistent but they have shown the ability to put it all together at the right time and this is the perfect type of place to go do that so if you like spe here then you would
Inevitably like the gala as well so I think that makes perfect sense to me uh he is not the long shot I’m on if anyone watched the research show that I did on this course I had two guys that I was eyeing and the odds got flipped on me
With both of them I thought one guy would be the longer shot and the other guy wouldn’t but that’s just not the case the two that I’m going with Luke list 90 to1 that I played with an each way bet and Kurt kitama 125 to1 with the
Top five each way as well I just look at kittama he can spray the ball over all over the place here like with these gigantic Fairways when I took a look at the fantasy National stat opportunities gained he’s still one of the leaders in that he’s very aggressive on his
Approach shots which you kind of need to be with these giant greens and he can putt really well uh from the key putting distance of like 15 fet and in where opportunities gained will leave you and very good at slow putting courses and if you go look at his history of where he
Has won in the past be it last year at Bay Hill or on the DP World Tour they’re all win in fluence Coastal courses it just seems like a really big number and I understand that he’s you know far more likely to come in last place than first
Place but he is one of the few from down in that range that I think can win in a tournament like this it’s a pretty solid case I don’t really I mean list too those are well I’m happy to see there well the list one is weird because the ball striking has
Been you know incredible in terms of driving he’s one of the best best drivers in this field he’s going to be one of the best drivers in any field that he goes to all year long that is his predominant skill but when he ended
Up winning at Tor a few years ago one of the main reasons to back him was the approach play was really good and the approach play has been really good for him he did win during the swing season but it was his short game and all of a
Sudden he became like top 15 on tour from just off the green he was still luk list once he got on the green and just bled Strokes everywhere including at this tournament a year ago when I think he lost was either two or five Strokes
Putting it was one of the two he end up coming t11 anyway at this tournament in his debut of playing in it but his Putter’s been a little bit better over the course of the past three four months or so it’s not a huge liability it’s just kind of around even
A little bit up a little bit down but not like minus 7 where there’s absolutely no chance he can win if he can just keep the putter under control for a year and he has a new putting stroke he has a new putting he has a new
Putter he has a new putting coach that I I’d want him on slower greens I would think I when he won at Tory those were super slow greens so why why not he has the skill set to do it he’s played well at this course before if I’m thinking
About a long shot that can just kind of get there it would be him and I know I mean just because of how you’ve bet it there was like never really a thought process in the middle but if you did have to make a bet say like in that four
40 to 60 um is there anything there that catches catches your eye pH out at 30 was going to be the one for me I I can see people liking Brian Herman here weirdly enough skill set wise when you take a look at either what sort of the
Shorter hitters that have played really well here like Zack Johnson or spe or Steve Stricker all guys that have played really well with the John Deere classic over time that could lead you to straa if you wanted it but I I mean I hate these odds and the type of talent that
Maybe I’m misjudging versus a very strong field like this like no one’s hotter than Eric Cole right now and if you’re thinking about who’s good from like 125 and in and there’s a lot of wedges on this course it is Eric Cole and dude can make some putts when he
Needs to just I hate 55 to one he can make all the putts uh he can I don’t know he how do you put this like he’s not going to be at that big of a disadvantage with his driver compared to other events I don’t Harman 66
Seems pretty high I don’t think I can get there though because I’m betting Tom Cam and I’m gonna bet someone else in front of Tom cam yeah the other one would be Cam Davis who he played well with this course once that that’s essentially what you’re going on and I think he played
Pretty well through the Aussie swing on the DP World Tour but nothing crazy day one on the DP World Tour in Australia like a few weeks back just trying to like Eric Cole Eric Cole’s gonna be 20 to1 in Hawaii or shorter yeah he’ll be like 25
To1 next it all depends on who plays I mean I would I would prefer to bet him at 20 to1 at Wy than bet him 55 to1 against this field though I could understand you’re right I mean there’s some players where you have that feeling and then there are others where
You’d like I’d rather play at the two and a half times the number at the stronger field like for example I would rather bet Luke list this week at 90 to1 than bet Luke list at 33 to1 at wly okay exact so that’s the other side of it um
I could see how that makes sense to a certain extent I I always assume last year the field in Hawaii I feel like was strong than this no than normal and and maybe it’s because more guys are coming to this than ever right like this field is
Bigger maybe so it gives Hawaii a better chance to be better sorry um Sony Sony uh I cannot confirm or deny that I honestly have no idea and maybe that’s just because Justin Thomas has been playing Sony so that alone makes it feel like it’s been
Better who won Sony last year was it Hideki sewo your boy oh yeah that’s right sewo won I missed that one that sucked and um yeah Sony’s been what was seiw sew would have been pretty short on the odds at yeah he was he was like 33 to1 last
Year or 28 to1 something like that let’s see yeah the top five in Sony last year were seu Hayden Buckley Chris Kirk Andrew putam and David lipy this my best DFS week of the year as I recall it doesn’t seem like this tournament was good at all in terms of talent Connor’s
Played Ben Anne played Adam Scott he’s not even at this tournament Cam Davis Denny Henley Shez reevy hogi senson yeah none of the top guys stuck around I guess because the year before was that wild Hideki win too right yeah he took all our Henley money took all my
Henley money at least with that amazing shot in the playoff when he stuck the eagle put to like two feet stupid AI anyway that’s where I’m at right now oh last year was the Year everyone bet Tom Kim at the Sony at like 10 to one he just missed the
Cut sounds accurate yeah so I mean that that’s all I really want to talk about from the long shots I think we had the discussion about the very top of the board that’s really what I wanted to have you like theala I like list and kittama I’m sure we’ll find I’ll find a
Spot for one more person and make it four for the week but no we we dipping our toes back in the water for week one right yeah I mean I don’t love anything I dip in our toes my exposure is historically always pretty light in in Hawaii
Um get back into the swing granted there’s also like what eight players under 20 to1 here yeah there’s 14 players 30 to one or below and you have like the first time hey Tommy finally got himself into the Tournament of Champions that’s nice hey yeah hopefully it’s a nice year for
Tommy we’ll see we didn’t really talk about any of that crew like the the Europeans like I like fits the best of those guys yeah or and I I like rose just as much as Fleetwood or Hatton he’s like 90 to one and not 30 to one I I’m not going
To bet Rose but that be the route that I would take Quick Picks feel a little un kosher with this field so big I like it better it makes it more intriguing that there’s 60 guys in it instead of 27 quick picks for the century Tournament of Champions and others I
Will be taking k morawa at 15 to1 KT kyama 125 to1 with five placements ditto for Luke list five placements at 90 to1 and then I will make my final decision on either Max hom Tony feno or Tom Kim depending what I want to do I’m leaning
Tom Kim along with you right now additionally I bet Tony feno at 18 to1 in the Futures Market to win the Mexico open because he if he plays he will be six to one to win that tournament when it comes to round um okay I have bet Tom Kim I got a
28 I have bet seah tala 90 win only and I’m going to be making I’m going to be betting one of Colin morawa or those those buddy one of them one of those three one of Xander kley or morawa will be my main pick uh on the cards
It’s going to be a three-man three-man card and uh speaking of major bets I mentioned on the show that I had my minwu Lee 80 to1 I saw Ben Coley put out his Majors preview and he had Min wo Lee to win one of the US opener PGA at 80
To1 so I just bet them both okay so I’m on a full minwoo Le not the Open Championship he’s actually got short odds there I guess that makes sense or shorter but I have Min woy Majors US Open PGA 0 to one those my major Futures and my ludig hundreds that
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