Kenny Dillingham and the Arizona State Sun Devils are looking to improve as a team in 2024. The same goes for Bobby Hurley and the ASU basketball team. How can both coaches get their programs on the same winning track? With the new year upon us, it’s time to discuss New Year’s resolutions for the football and basketball program, but that’s not all. Join Anthony Totri and Erik Ruby as they break it all down on the PHNX Sun Devils show!

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Happy Thursday boys and girls ladies and gentlemen aliens from Another Universe welcome into the phnx sundevil show I’m Anthony tow Tre we are changing it up a little bit today we’ve got DJ Eric Ruby behind the today let’s go we had him move from the passenger seat to what

Would you be moving to now I guess are you just the captain I think I’m I think I’m you’re technically driving podcast wise but I’m I’m like I’ve you’re in the car SE car I’m making sure like the AC’s on the sound is right I got the ax

Bumping like that’s that’s on me I mean yeah pulling double duty here some call me pH andx Travis Hunter you know it is what it is what we’re yeah that’s what we’re doing pretty much if if we’re equating the situation to a car if anybody has heard the song Jesus Take

The Wheel um Eric is exactly who car’s sing about Jes you in this in this moment I think you are I think you are but look we are just a few days away from the New Year from 2024 crazy to believe that it 2023 has gone

By this fast um and when when you look at what we’re going to be doing over the next couple of days it’s going to be 2024 and we’re going to be doing basketball postgame shows so we don’t really have the opportunity to sit down outside of today and discuss what the

Football program what the basketball program and what one other group can maybe look forward to changing in 2024 to help get Arizona State on a successful track um and that’s what we’re going to be doing today we’re going to be talking about New Year’s resolutions for Kenny and Company uh for

For Bobby and the boys uh and and really Arizona State fans as well down the stretch but if you are new here listening on audio watching live do us a favor hit that like button leave a festar review let us know what you like about this podcast Eric before we get

Into Arizona State’s New Year’s resolutions Kenny don’t stop Kenny has not stopped in terms of adding talent and if you didn’t see it if you’re not huge on social media Kenny Dillingham in Arizona State adding another player from the transfer portal yesterday this time New Mexico State linebacker keesan

Elliott U kesan has a lot of Eligibility left he has played two seasons at New Mexico state and the thing about kesan that I really really like that I think a lot of people are really going to see not maybe this coming year but as Kenny continues to add guys from the portal

From high schools you’re going to notice the type of player the breed that Kenny Dillingham is trying to go after and I said it to to Eric off camera that one of the first things I do when I see a transfer player or a commit is you

Immediately go and you look at their size right now size is important okay it’s not everything Eric what it’s it’s not everything but it’s important I was told differ it’s important when it comes to certain things okay so when we’re talking about kesan Elliott a linebacker normal linebackers that play in the pack

Normal linebackers that play at Arizona State in the past we’re talking guys 61 200 lb 61 200 lb that’s like an average linebacker in the pack you go you look at an SEC linebacker you go look at a big 10 linebacker we’re talking about guys that are differ sized

Right kesan Elliott is one of those guys 63 225 pounds that is a large large man that you are putting in the center of your defense now does he play outside linebacker does he play on the inside we figure to be seen right exctly fig that

Out later but you’re adding a guy who has got experience on the field is quite literally New Mexico state’s best or was at this point New Mexico state’s best defensive player last season from a numbers perspective because there are people out there that again are going to be all numbers recorded

111 total tackles 59 of those were solo two and a half sacks a force fumble a fumble recovery six pass deflections this guy was all over the field for New Mexico state last year so you look at Kenny Dillingham and what they’ve added defensively specifically at that linebacker backer spot that linebacker

Spot after the season I think we can agree that it was probably I don’t want to say the worst but it it lacked depth it lacked star power it lacked real potential because you lost Trey brown right now you lost will Schaefer now you look at that position you can make a

Legit argument that linebacker is the deepest position group not just defensively there’s an argument to make for that that position that and running back as the two team I was going to say I think running back you have to just because you’re not losing Cam scabo and

You’re adding relique and that room in general I think has the highest level of talent but this one’s extremely exciting even Donald said he’s excited about the linebacker depth now and what you mentioned where you said that they took the best player from New Mexico okay

They also did that to San Diego State so they took two of the best defensive players from again these are these are not SEC School right these are not college football powerhouses but being the best player on a on a on one side of the ball on a college football team

That’s not like division two division three that’s a big deal absolutely and they’re they’re they’re coming here and they’re coming here in in droves now that’s two of them I’m like I’m still thrilled I’ve been thrilled I don’t think anything’s going to really change how I feel about Kenny like adding

Because I’m already so high up on him but it’s nice to see the the confirmation of things yeah no you’re absolutely right and look there were there were issues with the linebacker room last year because one of the only one of the the the guys that Kenny and

And the the team added from the transfer portal last year and JuJu Mitchell um obviously was removed from the team let go from the team ended up transferring to Colorado and you know if it wasn’t for off the- field issues or or everything that was kind of going on

With him gu guu would have been a really really good linebacker at Arizona State definitely a talented dude right so Kenny is proven that he can go get those types of players and this year that linebacker room quite literally you’ve got now You’ got Kean Elliott right best

Defensive player on New Mexico check New Mexico State you’ve got zyrus the best defensive player linebacker San Diego State check you’ve got Jordan crook Arkansas SEC linebacker that you’ve added to the fold now you’re returning Tate Romney you’re returning a young guy in Kavon Thunderbird great name great

Great football name now you’re now that that position group is set up prince dorba prince dorba and and he’s more of an edge guy but still like those Ju Just that five those core guys now there are obviously more linebackers in that room but that core of Five Guys it is

Seriously I have so much confidence in that group because look there are guys that you bring from the portal that you you get and you’re like this guy has potential right this guy coming out of high school was this he was that mhm zyrus and Kean both put up numbers early

On they both have eligibility right so you’re building you’re like these guys are like if you’re playing Madden right or you’re playing 2K one of one of my favorite things like to do is like you’re you’re making a franchise right you do a franchise on Madden and you

Look at some of these younger players and they got the little puzzle piece next to them right they’re a puzzle piece they can be a building block for your team zyrus and keesan there are building blocks for this team defensively and I know AJ Cooper has got

To be thrilled the linebacker coach at Arizona State he’s got to be thrilled with the guys that Kenny and the rest of this defensive staff have been able to recruit to come to Arizona State because this defense is going to be a lot of fun

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Let’s go ahead let’s start talking New Year’s resolutions uh starting with Kenny and the football team look man my New Year’s resolution for Kenny Dillingham and the football team is trust the talent Trust the talent that you’ve gotten last season when you watch Arizona State football for me it felt

Like there were times that we knew the fans knew the media knew there were certain players that could have been utilized maybe in a different way and I’m not going to sit here and say I know more about football than Kenny Dillingham in those coaches because I absolutely do not those guys quite

Literally are masterminds they are scientists when it comes down to football for me though sometimes I think there is a tendency to maybe try and do too much right specifically I look at guys this year this year more so than last year cam scabo Jaylen conjur Elijah Badger those three were the best

Offensive players for the sunnd devils in 2023 hands down you won’t argue that right Eric that that’s unarguable not one bit okay so those are the three best players now when I tell you about those three best players they all did more than one thing oh yeah cam scabo was a

Running back quarterback wide receiver punter right casual casually Jaylen Conor tight end uh quarterback wide receiver okay Elijah Badger wide receiver special teams return specialist those are your three best players now if I go and I turn on an NFL game and you’ve got pick

A team pick a team Eric give me any any NFL team any NFL give me any NFL team the Chargers okay well that’s a little okay you want to go the Chargers fine we’ll go the Chargers I’ll give you they their best two offensive players okay Keenan Allen yeah and outside of

Quarterback you’re talking Austin Eckler probably right Austin Eckler plays running back you don’t see Austin Eckler line up outside on the perimeter and play wide receiver you don’t see Keenan Allen in the back field as a running back right unless there’s an occasional trick play right it’s every once in a

While it’s not a common occurrence so trust the guys that you have in those positions this season you’ve added Talent you’ve added a lot of talent from the transfer portal you’ve gotten some Young Bucks to come to Arizona State in Tempe I want to see Elijah Badger at

Wide receiver that’s it I want to see what cam scaboo can do when he’s getting 20 carries a game as the running back okay trust Canyon Floyd to be your punter trust Jaden or Sam to be your quarterback trust the talent you have at wide receiver in the on on the perimeter

Right I don’t want to see EK as a return guy I don’t want to see it you’ve added relique Brown who yes he’s not going to be your starting running back he should he should be the guy getting should be return specialist but I mean you can

Throw EK out there every once in a while like you said Kenny likes he likes to get those occasionally right but you’re right in saying that that trusting the talent would have been hard this past season like this couldn’t have been a resolution this past season just because

Of the state of where the roster was yeah but now a full offseason of recruiting reportal all of that under Kenny Dillingham right now before we’re even close to Spring ball way more complete of a roster absolutely you can look up and down and say okay there are

Guys at every single position that are going to get run and should get run so I I’m I’m with you man I do want to see some of these guys that showed they can do it all like it’s amazing that cam scabo can do it all props to him right

But how good could he be exactly if he could just focus on one thing and that’s not all on that’s not all on the coaches right you also go to look we’re giving credit to you know in 2023 you got to acknowledge the fact that this team was

Beat down with injuries so you have to understand that but if you’re looking at a healthy team this is the way it needs to run right we got Ronda in the chat what’s up love Ronda we got Joshua in the chat as well we believe in Kenny D

No absolutely man absolutely and I think that’s the thing for me in specifically having relationships with some of these guys uh um and like just kind of seeing them progress throughout the season right like yes injuries are a thing this team right now that you’ve got this

Roster is going to be competing to be Bowl eligible next year I think that’s the next step for this program and how do you get there right you’ve lost talent you have lost guys Ro torren not on this football team anymore Jaylen Conor is not on this football team

Anymore Jordan Clark not on this football team anymore BJ green BJ green not on this football team anymore but you’ve added guys you’ve got guys that have opted to return to Arizona State and I want to see what those guys can do when they’ve got faith and they’ve got

Trust from the coaches and from their teammates to go out there and do their job and I think again that’s part of the balance of adding from the portal versus adding you know high schoolers is zyrus and kesan two guys we spent a lot of time already talking about you can trust

Those guys because they put up the numbers that’s where it becomes a little bit more of a sticky situation is where you bring in guys like in 2023 when you brought in a Clayton Smith you brought in a prince dorba and they don’t necessarily have that immediate production year one at their first

School right that’s a little bit more of a of a tough scenario but now you really do it feels like Arizona state has a lot more depth at certain positions linebacker wide receiver running back even a even at quarterback now too because yeah you had multiple quarterbacks that had to be put out

There but now you’re top two or or two that I mean listen you can be as confident in Jaden Rashad as you’d like like you said you never know about injuries yeah right and I’m a lot more confident in the backup quarterback situation whichever way it might go now

Than I was last season and again now that means you’re not going to be tapping into your tight end and your running back to be playing that position for you unless unfortunately a lot of injuries happen which you never know you can’t control that but I I am still

Though the most intrigued by all the holdovers because those are the guys that Kenny and his staff already had in there with their fingerprints all over this season yeah and now you get another off season with them another Spring ball a summer and you’re coming back you’re

You’re over a year plus of being under these guys that we have a lot of faith in as coaches and as Leaders yes everybody coming in from other schools who’ve already put up numbers or all these high schoolers coming in who have potential and promise like that’s all

Great and I’m not trying to push that to the side by by any means but at the same time the guys who have been here who have been developing they’re the ones who really need to step up and set the tone and I’m interested to see the

Growth between years one and two because if Kenny can take guys and say this is what happens when you come to my system and I get my hands on you for lack of a better term for a certain period of time here’s how you improve here’s how you

Get better as a football player then next season we hit transfer portal and everybody wants to come to as look look at look at this past season we’re talking about a three and9 football team and look how many like they’re they are not the top transfer portal destination

But there’s certainly a big one there’s certainly one where you’re like you are bringing in players who are good yeah again two of the best players on the defensive side of two college football teams decided to come to Arizona State University in the midst of a massive

Rebuild yeah that speaks volume to what they believe that this coaching staff can do for them personally because at the end of the day it is a personal game right now is it is and look this is a talented roster already it’s a talented roster joshu Joshua in the chat huge

Pickup yesterday hope the New Mexico State defensive tackle is next yeah he’s talking about Sterling web um so we’ll see Sterling web has been offered by Arizona State also received offers um from a handful of other schools UTP Indiana uh Coastal Carolina so we’ll see where he ends up coming but it just

Talking about the depth of this team and you’re talking about a New Year’s resolution for 2024 and you want the trust right now trust is a two-way street you have to absolutely if you the player in this scenario showcase that in practice you have to Showcase that in

The meeting room and how does that come about well that’s when you get to the culture of this entire thing but if we’re just talking Talent let’s talk Talent right we’ve talked about Justin Watley a guy transferring over from Cincinnati you’re bringing back CJ fight on the edge you’ve got guys like Clayton

Smith prince dorba who have proven that they can be legit pass rushers at the division one level at Arizona State you go back to the second level of this defense you got zyrus you’ve got kesan you’ve got Jordan you’ve got Tate Romney okay let’s go back to the third level of

This defense you’ve got Shamari you’ve got xaven Alford you’ve brought in guys on the perimeter like lat Terence Welch Javin Robinson you’re bringing back Ed Woods okay the defense right there on top of some of the young guys that you brought in some of the young guys that

Were a part of that 2023 class that we are still waiting to see how they can produce and impact this team that defense has talent that defense has depth offensively okay you’ve got Jaden you’ve got Sam can he said it you don’t need a senior you don’t need an old guy

You got two Young Bucks that it’s they’re just going to go head-to-head all spring all fall iron sharpens iron whichever one wins that’s your guy on the perimeter Elijah Badger melan stoval is coming back Xavier gillery you still got Jordan Tyson Jordan Tyson was Colorado’s best best player period two

Seasons ago right that’s a talented dude you’ve got cam scabo you’ve got relique you’ve got the Carlos Brooks not to mention a bunch of young running backs in kaon brown Jason Brown Jr Kevin White still like the only thing is the offensive line they’re St and and

There’s still a lot more time to come and they have gotten a couple offensive line guys as well and you said something with the quarterbacks about iron sharpening iron you don’t need to have a senior coming in if anything I’m I’m more excited that it’s two young guys

Who can look at last season and say I didn’t get enough of what I wanted for different reasons right Sam being on the bench Jaden being injured yeah but they’re both going to look at this past season and say I could have done more

Than that I can step up and I can bring more than what I brought to the table last year they have something that they need to prove and they’re trying to prove it against each other but they’re also like competing not just against but with each other they’re trying to to

Make themselves better well also not putting the other person down that’s just not the vibe that’s coming out of this entire locker room but specifically the quarterback room especially out of Jaden rashada so I I don’t know sometimes I I sit back and I think like are we being

Too like so let’s play let’s let’s do this real quick before we move on to to to the basketball team play Devil’s Advocate with me here and we can go back and forth right are we being am I being too optimist tell me how I’m being so that’s the

Thing that’s that’s what I’m I’m I’m racking my brain because I am with you right like I I agree with you on a majority of things because you’re just so smart um oh my God I won’t slap the out of you you can’t I’m sitting across sitting across the room this time

Buddy uh but I will say this be a little wary about like getting overly hyped about guys coming out of the transfer portal because at the end of the day like there’s a reason why these guys are leaving and that’s not because they’re bad football players but a change of

Scenery a change of scheme a new place ideally it works out great for everybody but that’s that’s not always the case and that’s not just in football that’s everywhere you might start a new job that you’re super excited about and you think it’s going to be a great fit and

Then you get there and you actually start doing it and maybe there’s one person there that you don’t Vibe with and that throws everything off and you weren’t even expecting it not that I expect that to happen but again like these are not the greatest players coming in the transfer

Portal you’re not getting the top five guys coming in the transfer portal right like bull eligibility is is definitely the goal I wouldn’t be too shocked if they fell a little short I don’t think that’d be my expectation but at the end of the day if

One year from now it’s like man they were so close to being in a bowl I wouldn’t be the most shocked that’s how I would play Devil’s Advocate with this but I’m and with I’m with you like I agree with you there there again there there are people that you know we can

Talk about it Kenny can talk about it you can add players you could see where they came from you could see what they did at you know previous schools high school level whatever but it really is a show me don’t tell me right so Arizona State Kenny Dillingham these players

You’re going to have to show it in 2024 and that’s why the New Year’s resolution for the football team for me is quite literally just trust the talent trust the guys that you’ve got in that room now look whyd I was literally asked was literally asked to play Devil’s Advocate and I

Said hey I don’t truly believe this because I agree with tow Tre and then I laid out an argument I I know you know you know what Donald I’m sorry man I’m sorry that I answered a freaking question I was asked for everybody on audio Donald in the

Chat said get out of here Eric I don’t want to hear that today this is not like I don’t believe like I don’t believe that I think there’s a chance a chance that that could be true but that’s not my personal belief it’s okay it’s okay

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One’s pretty easy man yeah dude just play better just play better Eric you you got to feel the same way right yeah we were going through we were originally going to do two different lists of resolutions and then I was going through your resolutions I’m like yeah that

Sorry the chair there yeah for you Audio Only I I went I I went around from the producer’s desk I sat sat down and dragged a chair next to tow tree and and crowded a space I left the chair there I’m just I’m the chair was staring I’m

Extra chaotic today and when I’m in two rolls but uh but yeah we we were talking about okay what would this what would this be and I’m like there is no other resolution yeah there there can’t like there can’t be right what what else would it

Be I mean outside of play better maybe for Bobby to get find an offense I mean system you can talk about offseason stuff maybe you need to be recruiting better but that’s that’s like that comes like all of that other Stu comes playing better yeah like you literally if if

This is not just for Bobby right this is for the entire team is you need to look in the mirror and you need to ask yourself are you a division one basketball player do you think that you deserve to be a division one basketball player and that is a question for

Frankie Collins that’s a question for Adam Miller that’s a question for Jose Perez that’s a question for Alonzo Gaffney that’s a question for Sean Phillips that’s a question for Zane Meeks are you a division one basketball player do you believe that you are worthy of a roster spot at the division

One level at Arizona State if the answer to that question is yes then turn on the tape and watch what you’ve done this season and if that’s acceptable to you then you need to change the answer to your original question because it’s not it’s not been good enough offensively

It’s stagnant there’s no moving and when you go into 2024 it’s ironic right because Arizona State plays a basketball game tomorrow they play a game on Sunday New Year’s Eve they start conference play Stanford and Cal 2024 your conference play you need to play better offensively there needs

To be a rhythm I don’t care if Frankie Collins needs to hold a players only meeting where he says straight up I need to touch the ball every possession honestly he should at this point honestly he somebody needs to somebody needs to step up and be that guy and

Early on in the season when I said be that guy I meant I need somebody to go be the guy and drop 20 now I just need somebody to be the guy and be the damn leader of this team yeah it’s it’s sad it’s honestly sad because like

You said all those guys who should be looking in the mirror and discussing am I a division one basketball player my answer for all of them in a vacuum individually is yes yeah but then you go and you put the sum of all the parts together and maybe maybe it shouldn’t

Just be play better maybe it should also be coach better yeah because if if if now we’re sitting here and this is hitting me as we’re talking about and we’re talking about man these guys individually they’re they’re they’re all supposed to be here but they’re not playing like they’re supposed to be here

Frankie Collins might need to do a players only meeting it’s like wait not that they’re not the problem because at the end of the day the players are in control of themselves but especially in college the team reflects their coach yeah and this is not by any

Means the first time that I have sat back and said hm a Bobby hurly L team is not playing together a Bobby Hurley Le team is not getting the most out of all of its parts in fact it just feels like everybody’s playing out there separately

At the same time it’s it’s almost a pattern at this point and I know almost it is it is and there I mean Donald’s in the chat saying fire Bobby we we have seen lots of comments and lots of people go about that and say like maybe maybe

Bobby’s just not the right guy maybe or maybe it’s the players maybe the players need to step up at the end of the day it’s everybody it’s the program because the program as a whole all of it it just has not been up to the standard that it

Should be and to be honest with you the standard is not that high no it’s not that high the the standard for Arizona State basketball and I’m gonna get to be’s comment here in a second the standard for Arizona State basketball over the last five years has been sneak

In sneak in when it comes to selection Sunday sneak in right we’re going to see you in Dayton we’re going to see you in Dayton or we’re not going to see you at all that that’s been the standard for you’re going to be playing Syracuse and

Dayton or you’re not going to be doing anything else seriously that’s what it’s been and that shouldn’t be the standard and I said it at the start of the the basketball season right that the standard for Arizona State basketball this year specifically should be selection Sunday comes around Arizona

State fans the only question that they should be asking themselves is where are we playing it should be what seed are we it shouldn’t be if it should be who and when that should be the standard for Arizona State basketball and right now that’s not it that is not the standard

For Arizona State basketball and I don’t know because this season unless you turn that around tomorrow it’s not happening there’s I I can’t sit here and say that I have any confidence in that happen no you shouldn’t that’s the thing is I don’t have any confidence in him you shouldn’t

Have any confidence in him the fans as it stands right now shouldn’t it it is a put up in shut up season from this point on for Bobby Hurley in Arizona State basketball and we’ve had Bobby on the show we’ve had players on the show great people it’s no it’s not personal it’s

The reality of the situation is you need to go win because now you are coaching for your job because you have a new athletic director coming in at some point right you are tob’s point you are big 12 bound next season it’s not getting any easier if you keep that bar

Here if you keep that bar for Arizona State basketball at are we getting in are we going to play in dayon are we a first four team are we if that’s the standard going into the Big 12 why why bother right the standard should be hey look what Arizona’s doing

In Tucson look what Kansas state does right look what Kansas does look what Houston does look what Baylor does does look what Colorado is doing why can’t you do that why can’t that be the standard right why can’t that be the ideal spot for Arizona State basketball because let’s be real the

Pack 12 sucks this year the Pack 12 at best might see three teams in the NCAA tournament well that’s what I was looking at right here the first two games of conference play are Stanford and UCLA uh UCLA is five and six Stanford is five and five technically

Worst records in ASU but going into those two games what is your confidence level that ASU can win both let alone one I would say Arizona state would be barely favored against Stanford they’d be dogs against UCLA you know what’s crazy they are 81.4% dogs to Stanford according to ESPN

Match a predictor 18.6% chance and they have a six and5 record to their five and five record guys like that’s not that’s not acceptable no play better and again and and Donald in the chat said it’s been it’s been nine seasons of ass and it’s hard because there have been some

Incredible High moments absolutely I mean talking almost being the number one team in the country but again that that doesn’t matter when you crumble the same season we saw that up close and personal that’s when we were covering the team at ASU was when all of that stuff was

Happening and everybody’s like oh my gosh Bobby’s a great coach Trey holder Cody Justice like wow like Shannon Evans this is great and again the some of the parts while they hit a way higher Peak than I think this team will ever even get close to sniffing remotely they still did not come

Together and play up to the potential that they even hit that season that’s a pattern so I wouldn’t say it’s just nine seasons of ass there have been some good Seasons but it is nine seasons of the same story and the same story is it’s it’s Arizona State plays two two

Separate Seasons right that’s that’s that’s my gripe with it and that’s kind of to Donald’s Point saying zero consistency right is you got to play an entire season I don’t need Arizona State to go out there and be a team that is going to win every

Single game I don’t need that that’s not what this program is that’s not what this program will probably ever be okay but what I do ask is that you look at that what 2017 season when you have Trey holder Cody Justice Shannon Evans Remy Martin coming off the bench right that

Team the last undefeated team in division one college basketball a win away and then you crumble when you get to conference play you’re playing two separ it looked like two different teams that’s like that’s my gripe is you’re either this team or you’re this team I

Need you to pick I need you to either be really bad or really because it’s it’s a it’s a terrible game you can even look and this season specifically there was a four game win streak where they exercised demons and Craig Craig War just came in here told to Tre to watch his

Language so uh listen you can look at it just at this season right four good wins in a row Vanderbilt Sam Houston San Francisco SMU okay four good wins four good wins in a row four wins I wouldn’t say they’re good wins like for this team

If you beat a team by 17 points like they did with Sam Houston that’s a good win you exercise your demons against San Francisco that’s a good win you blow out Vanderbilt that’s a good win SMU by two points anytime you can come back and

Pull out a game like that that’s a good win guess what then you turn around on the road against San Diego you lose 89 to 84 and then your entire Mojo is lost there’s no bounceback anything like that at all then you lose to TCU by 20 points and

Then you lose to Northwestern by 20 points again four game win streak three game losing streak it’s every single season and and bees even said it Donald saying in the chat like there’s there is no identity you know what there is an identity that’s the problem the identity

Is the consistency and LTC says consistently inconsistent like this right now if I’m an athletic director coming in and I’m just looking at all the past Seasons I’m looking I’m looking at Bobby I’m saying what are what are you bringing here right now because I don’t think Bobby’s a bad basketball

Coach I don’t think so either he’s a phenomenal recruiter too but I think I think that Bobby is somebody that I don’t believe fully should have the the complete control be at the helm I think Bobby could be one of the greatest assistant coaches and recruiting leaders that college basketball has ever seen

But you put too much on his on his plate he has shown he cannot balance it all he just can’t because why are so many players some of them five stars coming in here and losing their way yeah that’s not a good look because if I’m a five-star and I’m considering maybe some

Smaller schools where I’m going to get a bigger run than a duke or or a Kentucky or a Kansas and I’m looking at Arizona State I’m like look at the guys that went in there and look at how they left almost none of them almost none of them

Leave better than how they came in that’s a reflection of the prog yeah bees in the chat this is who we are this is what we do every successful program has something they can hang their hat on but again 2024 you could change the narrative be better Friday before we

Even get to 2024 ring in the New Year on a good note please got Stanford and Cal man get back on track because if you’re not beating Stanford and Cal you’re not beating Utah you’re not beating Colorado uh you’re not beating Washington and you’re not even you shouldn’t be on the

Same court as Arizona your next winnable game is UCLA on the 17th and then you have USC you’re probably not going to beat USC you’re not going to beat Oregon you’re not going to beat Oregon State changeing narrative start Friday start Friday it’s sad be better it’s honestly sad play better Coach better

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The football team any of the teams just show up just show up just show up now look it’s it’s easy to say it and it’s you know you go to the games whether you’re going to a football game and you’re watching a three and9 football team and one you’re going to the

Basketball game and you’re watching a team on a three-game losing streak that doesn’t look like they have a real offensive identity um you go to any of these sporting events for Arizona State and you know you’re going to create memories you’re going to have experiences that’s how you show your

Fandom when it comes to Kenny Dillingham when he was hired here what was he talking about right if you listen closely if you if you tune out all the noise of how we’re going to change the program it always starts with Kenny Dillingham grew up an Arizona kid he

Grew up loving Arizona State he grew up going to Arizona State Games he grew up going the tailgates right he grew up loving this University through thick through thin it really is a marriage when you have a college football program a college basketball program that you follow religiously if you want Arizona

State seriously if you want Arizona State to run the Big 12 if you want Arizona State to compete seriously just to compete you got to show up because you look at every other school that competes that shows up that wins that’s constantly playing in bowl games that’s consistently in the NCAA

Tournament find me one find me one program that’s at that level that is a fan base that doesn’t show up you can’t you can’t do it yes it’s easier to show up when they win absolutely but it almost makes it more sweet when you show up you watch a team

Grow develop yes they’re going to lose from time to time nobody’s saying they’re going to be undefeated and that’s okay but showing up supporting the team supporting the university it makes it sweeter when they win right it makes it sweeter when you say hey I went out in Kenny’s first year

To a bunch of football games they were three and nine look at us now we’re a nine 10 win football team every year we’re getting guys that would never come to Tempe before and you got to see that change you got to have those experiences you can laugh with your buddies about

Hey you remember that time right but if you don’t go to the games you can’t have that and that’s not just an Arizona State thing that’s my gripe with Suns fans with coyotes fans with Cardinals fans this is not just the New Year’s resolution in temp B this is a New Year’s resolution

For every in the valley show up show up to the damn games be there through the start through the finish right the Suns right take those guys for example they’re supposed to be Championship contenders they’re not right now don’t mean they can’t get there sports are a crazy

Thing show up coyotes fans watch the rebuild you want your team to stay in Arizona show up Cardinals fans guess what go to the games drink have a good time laugh about how bad you are because guess what just like everything else it’s not going to last

Forever the sun will shine again for the Arizona Cardinals I promise and it kind of sucks to use Arizona as an example but guess what the sun shining in Tucson it was dark as hell not too long ago the worst college football team in the nation the basketball team what how many

Months removed from losing to Princeton in the NCAA tournament their fans show up their fans show up now if every team in the valley had that level of support from their fans in 2024 Arizona would be a it would be a place that opposing teams would be terrified to go play

Absolutely that’s my New Year’s resolution for Arizona State and really for everybody that’s an Arizona sports fan in 2024 show up be there support those teams did I leave anything out Eric I think you nailed it dude because you are right there is a beauty in witnessing

The process yeah and we’re both very confident despite what I might be set up to say earlier in the show that what’s going on specifically with football is going to work yeah and it’s probably going to happen faster than a lot of people nationally and even not as much

Nationally a lot of people locally who aren’t as tuned in as the people who are in this chat right now the people who are on this video right now are probably not the people that that absolutely message needs to go to these are the people that understand what the

Importance is behind supporting that and kind of set a scene when Kenny got hired and I was working in radio he was going around and he came in in studio to do an interview and he was asked what if a big school comes calling what if somebody

Wants to hire you away and give you like your dream job big big big Power five program SEC say Kenny we want you he said I already have my dream job that’s the type of dude that you have leading right now that’s the type of guy that you can look at and get

Behind and support and now in the future those wins are going to start stacking The Tide is going to shift the tide is going to change just like you said this is not going to be forever and I’m 10 times more confident in the football program right now than I am the

Basketball program but it it does apply to everything obviously I’m very focused it on the Suns I produced the sun show it’s hard it’s hard when things are not going your way it’s hard when everybody is losing it takes a lot of the joy out of sports but then you start to think

About the process you start to think about what it took to get there yeah when the Suns made it to the finals in 2021 you know how sweet it made those mares Chris Dragon Bender Josh Jackson days like in the moment was I pissed off beyond belief absolutely I hated it but

Then the Suns made it to the finals yeah man Deon Booker was the best player on a finals team dropped 40 balls back toback did they win no but you know what that’s GNA make it when they do win even sweeter and you were there right

You were there for it you were there and you saw it and you witnessed the growth and you looked at guys like male Bridges like cam Johnson like Devin Booker like DeAndre Aon and you you say I saw you when you were at your worst yeah Kenny I

Saw you when all of your quarterbacks and offensive linemen went down in consecutive possessions in multiple games in a row I saw you when you almost lost in a game where the entire thing was delayed due to a haboob thunderstorm I saw you when you got boat raced by

Utah like I I saw all of that and now I see you coming out the other side of it yeah there’s a beauty in that everybody in here knows that but not everybody out there knows that and guess what you’re going into Big 12 country and you got

Recruits coming in from Big 12 country and if temp is lacking and then they’re going to go to another school in the Big 12 were they sure as hell aren’t lacking yeah that’s going to make a difference look man say to sum it up if you want to be an Arizona State

Fan and you want to enjoy the good times you can’t handle if you can’t handle Arizona State at the worst you absolutely do not deserve Arizona State at their best ain’t that the truth tell you that right now look that is going to do it for the phnx sundevil show today

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4 Comments

  1. Is the LB from New Mexico or New Mexico State? You keep going back and forth. N.M. State had a good year, made a bowl.

  2. Recruit players that can make mid range and outside shots, and also shoot at least 70% from the free throw line. I can't understand guys that think they can play, yet they can't make a jump shot or free throw! Brick city the past few years.

  3. Be Professional and stop cussing, especially the F-bombs!! You don't hear Eddie Johnson cussing on the air. This is a family show! My teenage Sons watch this. You are setting a bad example with all the cussing. I am a Professional Engineer and Businessman, and I also coach youth Football and Wrestling. I never cuss in front of my co-workers, clients, players, and especially in front of my sons!

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