Natalie Ryan has dismissed the PDGA from her lawsuit in California federal court and will soon dismiss all parties from her Minnesota case as well. Additionally, Natalie Ryan has registered for a 2024 Tour Card. All signs point towards a settlement between Ryan and the DGPT/ PDGA, but no announcements have been made yet. We will continue to monitor the situation and bring you additional updates as soon as we have them.
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Hello everyone welcome back to our Channel this is Chris Clark with dis golf. law there is news about Natalie Ryan’s lawsuits against the PDGA and the disc golf pro tour Natalie earlier this year sued the PDGA the disc golf pro tour and thousand rated Productions in federal court in California the news
This week is that that lawsuit has been dismissed with prejudice by Natalie Ryan thousand rated Productions the organization that runs the OTB open had previously been dismissed from the suit the disc golf pro tour had also essentially been dismissed from the suit based on jurisdictional grounds now this week Natalie Ryan has officially
Dismissed the PDGA with prejudice which means she cannot come back and file a lawsuit with the same claims again this means Natalie Ryan’s lawsuit in California is over also this week there were documents submitted in state court in Minnesota that once they are signed and officially entered into the record
Will also dismiss Natalie’s lawsuit in Minnesota against the PDGA the dis golf pro tour and Lisa disc golf design we also have seen this week that Natalie Ryan’s name appears on the list of players registered for a 2024 disc golf pro tour tour card so what does all this
Mean there’s been no official announcement from Natalie Ryan or from the PDGA or from the disc golf pro tour right now nobody is willing to go on the record and say that officially yes there has been a settlement the context clues that we’re seeing and some private conversations we’re having do strongly
Suggest that settlement terms have likely been agreed to you may recall that the United series a series of disc golf prot tour events in which transgender women are permitted to compete in the foo division no official announcement has been made about the United series for 2024 if our suspicions
Are correct these lawsuits in California and Minnesota are dismissed before the end of the year it puts a nice bow on 2023 when it comes to disc golf litigation all the lawsuits that we were following The Prodigy versus Ganon Burr mcis lawsuit and Florida and these two
Natalie Ryan lawsuits will all have been initiated in 23 and resolved by the end of 2023 I expect we will hear an official announcement soon if our suspicions are correct and if there’s any new information that comes out in light of those announcements we’ll be
Sure to bring it to you speaking of 2024 and predictions let us know in the comments what do you think will be the big legal battles that we’ll see in disc golf in 2024 as always please like comment subscribe and thanks for watching
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Tbh this needed to happen. This has been happening more frequently and it seems like the majority public opinion is almost always that biological men shouldn’t compete in women’s sports. Obviously there are rare situations where people legitimately fall between being a biological man or woman but that’s another conversation and something that should probably be looked at case by case anyway. I’ve always thought allowing women or those who want to call themselves women into some Men’s sports seemed like a sensible answer that could satisfy everyone (I’m a dumb*** though don’t listen to me.) Hopefully this just goes away and we can continue to enjoy all the sports we love staying fair and competitive indefinitely.
Friendly reminder that it's completely possible to both be against Natalie competing in the FPO division and respect her identity. It comes at no personal cost to you whatsoever. I imagine it'll take years of establishing a framework before we see trans women competing at the top levels of sports regularly.
About time he mans up and owns up to what it is.
Thankfully, men should play men and women should play against women. Ask the PDGA to make an "it" catergory.
Keep men out of womens sports period!
He. Ryan is a dude.
I’m just waiting for a lawsuit against the decision that Finland will host the worlds in 2025 😏
Mentally ill.
Big Nate is a fraud and can’t compete with MPO
PDGA – Perpetrating the Displacement of Girls for Autogynephiles.
We need more men in the woman's league because Kristin is a machine that can't be stopped.
Too much hatred in this sport.
nate just hit the lotto boys and girls
Xmas came early boys!!
I wish nothing but the worst for Natalie Ryan. May he never find happiness in his life.
Everyone feels for this case but at the same time. NOPE.
Now can finally afford that bottom surgery! 🎉
Congrats dude
Just play MPO already, it's open to all.
Natalie Ryan? More like Natalie tryin’
I just hope they don't settle on stopping discrimination only in Cali and Minnesota exclusively. I wouldn't be satisfied until they stop being assholes everywhere.
Bad day for FPO: women having to compete against natal males like Ryan is unfair. I hope this lamentable decision is reversed. Natal males like Ryan should compete in MPO.
I’m sure the insanity in the FPO will continue. It’s a joke.
I don't mind this person standing up for what they believe in, but I've never met a single person that thinks biological men should compete with woman.
Having 2 daughters I also don't feel bad for women in sports right now as it is also their opportunity to stand up for what they think is right as well, one way or the other.
All that being said, I would love to hear what someone like Natalie has to say about why women's sports exist in the first place? Why are sports and the Olympics split up not by race, age, size or anything other than gender?
I believe we all know the answer, but I'd love to hear this person's thoughts.
LadyBaller 🍒
That would be insane for me that biological males would be allowed to compete against biological women. will have to wait and see about the announcment. also.. will probably see a rise of biological males in FPO division.
Fact Check – HIS name is Nate Ryan
What cheeses me, is nobody’s changing sex to play in MPO…
hit the pdga where it hurts…QUIT giving them money for a "membership"..what do you get for $75 a year? a crappy mag and…nothing!
All of the real women should just start playing rec
Looks like I will not be watching female coverage where men are playing on the female division.
There's a guy out there that has spent hundreds of thousands of dollars to try to become a reptile. I'm sure you've at least seen a picture of him. Is he a reptile? Is there any amount of money or any use of technology that could make him a reptile?
There's your answer.
If you think that the only difference between men and women are a little surgery and some drugs, you're missing out on %99.9 percent of the wonderful things that make them different.
You can't be something you're not just because you want it really, really badly.
If you want to indentify as something in everyday life, no worries. But when it comes to gender protected areas, you don't get to play, period, ever. You are what you are, birth to death. You don't like it, talk to your creator.
Who wants to be the Riley Gaines of disc golf?
My issue is with anyone attempting to gain an unfair advantage leveraging biological advantages that violate fairness in female (biological) athletics. Such contestants are unethical and attempting to cheat a system which has always prohibited biological males and for numerous good reasons: right of privacy in private spaces, safety, level playing field based on biological gender, and protection of biological females to compete in sports. This is unethical behavior which is basic common sense. If adults want to surgically mutilate their sex organs and consume toxic hormones that is up to them and health institutions that apparently are okay it.
So…one guy with some lawsuits was able to force the governing body of an entire sport to change policy just for them? And this took place after the previous year when a PDGA player survey overwhelmingly opposed it?
This is why we can't have nice things America…
RIP Fpo. 😢 Very Disappointed in the Pdga and the Dgpt. This is one step in the wrong direction for womens sports. Basically an invite for anyone to sue because they feel the rules dont apply to them and they are special. Its a very sad day for womens disc golf and a slap in the face for true women competing in womens sports. Might as well let pros play am events . Or 17 yr old boys play against 13 yr old girls.
disgusting that anyone born a man can compete with women. this dude would never match the skills of any of the guys on tour. I hope he loses every game.
FPO= Female, Penis Optional
All this and the merits were never touched – couple TRO's was all it took. Disc golf is still quite niche'. Surprised the PDGA does not have a pro-bono law firm. Law's expensive as heck, especially litigation, unless it's free like NR had in the two blue states, straight up volunteers who like the cause and/or want publicity.
When you live a lie due to mental illness no amount of reasoning or common sense can get through. That’s why we have rules in our society.
When someone wants to live their own personal version of reality the rest of us who live in what is actually reality put them in check by enforcing the rules.
The problem is that more and more people, companies, and organizations have contracted the woke mind virus and now encourage people with mental illnesses that their reality is the valid one. It’s all gone to hell.
The PDGA and DGPT stood down to a single dude that should be playing in the MA1 division.
time for my daily visit to clown world. So funny that your a lawyer and you believe tha ta cross dresser is a woman. Why isn't the title of the video cross dresser wins law suit to play against women. Try the real world for a day or two its so refreshing.
I was considering getting a PDGA number this year… not now.