Mina Kimes on MVP Race, Bill Belichick, and Pete Carroll | The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

We start the hour with our Thursday Thunder pick this week before discussing Dan Orlovsky’s top 5 Christmas likes before Dan Le Batard teases his. Then Mina Kimes joins us for his weekly segment and verifies Lucy’s claims that In-N-Out is overrated. She also discusses why players love playing for Pete Carroll so much, why the 49ers are having such a special special, and the Belichick game.

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All right everybody Thursday Thunder time as I adjust my cowboy hat we’ve got a big one for you tonight it is it by comparison over the last few weeks this does actually feel like a big game yeah two seven and seven teams fighting for last little playoff spot Ram’s been

Playing good we’re going to take two anytime touchdowns from this game wow yep you think we’re going to have two touchdowns we’re going to have more than two touchdowns but we’re going to definitely have two from these gentlemen right here number one anytime tutty goes to Kiren Williams who’s excellent by the

Way he’s awesome we haven’t talked about him at all he runs very hard he’s really good I think does he still lead the league in uh yards after contact and he’s proven that you know he’s a lot better than the rest of the running backs that they have on the roster

Because when he’s missing you notice and he missed like six weeks with a with an ankle spring too second any time tutty goes to the one and only Alvin Kamar so we’ve got two running backs two anytime tutties between two teams on Prime Time Thursday Night Football brought to you

By Amazon uh and then we’re going to go we’re not going to go against history here okay the Detroit Pistons have lost by my count 24 games in a row they started two in one Dan did you know that uh put it on the pole please Juju did you know the

Detroit Pistons started two- one they started two- one and now have lost 24 consecutive games we are going with the Utah Jazz on the back toback second half of back toback Utah Jazz we going to take them minus one against the spread this is the spot for the Pistons to win

No no we’re going to roll it back one more time Pistons lose again in a heartbreaker we’re taking Utah Jazz minus one and two anytime tutes Kyon Williams Alvin kamaro congratulations Detroit Pistons fans on your first win last 25 games as a reminder Thursday Thunder is brought to you by draftking

Sportsbook you can follow our parlay on the draftking Sportsbook app I am embarrassed to say that while Tony was talking I was uh enjoying a better show on television in here than the one we’re doing Dan Arlovski dressed as some sort of uh elf glasses wearing person in a

Burgundy suit that’s just his suit a better burgundy suit than the one Mike Ryan is wearing uh did Dan’s A-list top five Christmas likes where he just ranked the things that he likes best about Christmas he is a famously Bland human being his flavors on food are

Famously Bland in a way that’s fairly disgusting but Arlovski and Christmas likes his number one is the same as my number one this time of year I’m on channel 79 Holly I am my favorite Christmas like is Christmas music music I enjoy Christmas music this time of

Year I I’m embarrassed what’s your fav I’m embarrassed to say it what’s your favorite little diddy well Little Drummer Boy is my favorite of the Christmas songs yes that’s that’s a great one very traditional that’s a bit of a a bit of an upset here uh yes but

Would you like to hear Dan Arlovski top five Christmas likes or should I create a top five better Dan Dan O Christmas like Christmas like I’m just happy we’re saying Christmas again I need to uh I need to uh gather my this in order to do this correctly so

Maybe we will do that next segment shall we this Dan is uh by the way this is a response to yesterday mad dog had his things he hates most about Christmas the dislikes yeah the dislikes about Christmas number five I that was a good list number five was Mom’s V parm yeah

He hates it she always Burns it orlovski said his number three Christmas likes is people are nicer is that true no I think so Dan Orosi has someone shop for him very clearly H people are in the holiday spirit I I think there’s a lot more like

Eye contact I’m someone who really likes a little eye contact and a wave at a stranger just like a little acknowledgement that you exist you’re another human being on the planet and that doesn’t happen in the other 11 months of the year down here in South Florida but occasionally I can see

Someone and just hey how are you you should move out of a blue City can you guys take any guesses on what orlov’s top five looks like what are your SU of some of your favorite Christmas likes also JuJu at lebit show put it on the poll please are people

Indeed nicer during the holidays I have not experienced that Lucy you’ve generally found Miami to be rude right I don’t know anyone who comes here from any other part of the C country who doesn’t think that this area is unfriendly it’s very unfriendly what yeah people aren’t nice to me I ask them

How they’re doing they don’t respond I smile they don’t smile smile back like but that’s weirdo Behavior like who ask people how they’re feeling me my therapist you want something for me I’m not like I’m not like going up to someone walking down the street and

Being like hey how are you doing but like if I’m at a restaurant my server comes up to the table I’ll say hey how are you and they usually just ignore it yeah that really hurts my feelings oh come let us adore him let us keep it going him oh come let

Us adore him C the Lord oh are you offended Billy actually is right when he ask the question it is possible in Miami that the people serving you don’t speak English and don’t understand what it is you’re saying to but a smile no come on asking too much exct I have a friendly

Face like just just smile back just be kind it’ll ruin my day if you don’t I’m very sensitive are people nice elsewhere like I just assume this is a human thing no people are nice elsewhere like why I I don’t know Bo to make me feel better

They’re so nice like in grew up in North Carolina Southern very friendly Iowa also a very friendly place until you start making jokes about the offense and they get really mad they start tweeting things at your dad so don’t do that but in La they were even nice to me out

There too but here I just can’t get people to be nice to me it really hurts my feelings because if I ask you how you’re doing I genuinely want to know yeah I really can’t stay mky it’s cold outside I’ve got to go away mky it’s cold outside this evening has been

Hoping that you drop in so very nice the smell of Christmas is on AR lovi’s list at number five the smell of Christmas Christmas trees the Christmas tree has well that’s the only smell I associate with I do you associate it with a food of any kind all I do is I do

Like the smell of pine I like uh I think the first thing that ever hung from a rearview mirror of mine was the old-fashioned Christmas tree that made the car smell like Pine that sounds like an Olden time oh my God turn up truck looking yeah turn up truck absolutely

Put it put it on the poll please Juju did Dan have a Christmas tree deodorant hanging from the rearview mirror of his turnup truck the only other smell I could think of and this is someone in South Florida where we don’t actually have fireplaces would be a fireplace

Candle no or something like a like a log cabin candle where you can get some of those other smells or you know cinnamon sugar cookies or something but all candles candy cane Works Peppermint’s perfect no it’s lechon is what it smells like that is true it’s got H it’s Leon

It’s got bong we do the seven fishes in my house so I just think of fried smelts I ought to say no no no sir mind if I move in closer at least I’m going to say that I tried what’s the sense in wait how old are you I really can’t

Say the lights of New York number four for orlovski the lights of New York yeah good lights please present two valid forms of ID why just New York though you like Christmas decorations there’s a lot big giant trees there I think that’s what he’s doing lots of lots of decorations

Everywhere this time of year there manufacturing civil unrest so everyone votes by mail that’s what they’re up to I like Christmas decorated neighborhoods I like neighbors competing uh to have the better D like your mayor solid guy my mom is Redneck and we keep our Christmas lights up the entire year

And we turn them on all the time um yeah it was it’s very easy when people come over because you’re like oh my house is the one with the Christmas lights on yeah whole year we had our Christmas lights up are they they colorful lights or they’re the white lights they’re

White lights classy but in July yep Christmas lights are up I love that that’s like a the Christmas themed bars all year long that’s like my favorite type of dive bars going to one that has Christmas lights up all year long I would love go to a lot of those do those

A lot of those exist exist yeah are come on those exist I’ve never seen one in Miami ever well that’s on you I’ve learned so much about Lucy today like in the pre-show meeting in the show it’s pretty incredible well uh what did you learn in the pre-show meeting because

I’m learning all of for the first time I what what did her dad do other than she was worried about what she was going to get her dad for Christmas her dad is a bit of a star people are noticing him and he’s defending his daughter against

The crazies in Iowa did you know the first Christmas was in March I can’t believe that Lucy still had Christmas lights in in June and July that doesn’t make any sense to me it sounds lazy it’s redneck it’s redneck as hell it’s when JC was born put it on the

Poll JuJu at lebatard Show Christmas lights still on your house in July lazy or redneck also the Earth is only 6,000 years old finally somebody says it I was telling Billy this morning about how when we were younger my Dad loved to lie to us to like an insane extent uh cuz we

Were talking about the New Year’s fairy and it reminded me of this time where they built a McDonald’s next to my dad’s house like right down the street so my dad typed up an official letter from McDonald’s Corporation had his cooworker sign it sent it to our house to my

Little sister that said if you go to this McDonald you will be arrested and suffer the same fate as the Hamburglar and he thought it was the funniest thing in the world she’s like six years old or she was probably like eight terrified because she just wants to go to

McDonald’s she feels like she’s going to get arrested if we do months later my dad’s like I’m not going to cook we’re going to go to this McDonald’s my sister starts having a panic attack in the drive-through line and we’re like what’s going on she’s like I can’t be here the

Cops are going to show up I’m going to get arrested and he would just do stuff like that for fun all the time is the Hamburglar still around or did we end that character because I could see where the Hamburglar would be scary to a child if a parent is saying

The Hamburglar is going to come and arrest you there’s going to be in a an arrest situation he wasn’t going to arrest my sister she was going to suffer the same fate as the hamburger and be in jail with him yes same sell and everything isn’t the Hamburglar scary to

Kids wouldn’t he be a little bit scary I think she was more scared of just like going to jail going to McDonald’s she was 8 years old like she believed it and he had the official letterhead and like you would have believed it was a real letter from McDonald’s he typed up the

Whole thing has McDonald’s discontinued the Hamburglar or is the Hamburglar still a character for McDonald’s number two on orlov’s list by the way of Christmas likes Christmas movies Die Hard sound of freedom I don’t like Christmas movies does that make me you have something against K Cameron being a real Grinch

Dan does that make me that I don’t like Christmas movies when I’m telling you I’m driving around I’m enjoying the holiday spirit on in my car I’m listening to Holly Channel 79 it’s not that I don’t want the Christmas spirit it’s just I don’t need Christmas movies

Have the Christmas movies on but the sound down listening to Christmas music I’m the here always I want Mina’s best information most informed Insight on Brock pie in a second but I want to before we get to mina kimes bring up before her a subject that

Lucy is claiming in and out is overrated as a hamburger franchise and there was an eight hour line recently where was this Lucy that there was an eight hour line for In-N-Out so they opened up the first In-N-Out in I believe somewhere in Idaho eight hour wait in the

Drive-through for In-N-Out I remember when I first went to LA when I moved there for the first time I was like I’m going to try in- and- out this is going to change my life it’s fine it’s fine the fries taste like cardboard the burgers are good worth eight hours

Absolutely not no way Mina do you have a verdict you want to make here as someone who is now uh a defender of all things West Coast AM I um I’m not a defender of In-N-Out I agree with Lucy it’s fine I think the burger is good she’s right the

Fries are not that great I I feel like it’s all about what alternatives you have like if you live in a city where you don’t have really good fast food or really good burgers I I can see why you’d be excited um but out here there’s plenty of better places too uh Los

Angeles does food well but uh In-N-Out has an exceptional reputation throughout the throughout America does it not is it you are saying something fairly shocking when you say that In-N-Out is overrated am I it’s just like the like hype of it like I remember I had never been to

California I grew up in like the South so In-N-Out was just like this thing you would see in TV shows and movies so you’re like like it’s got to be great and the drive-thru line is always so long and it moves slow so slow so you’re

Like this is going to be phenomenal and it’s just fine and also there’s all these like weird little like tricks you need to know that you can order something animal style or extra crispy or it’s like it’s just too complicated of a system and it’s not worth an eight

Hour wait or like even an hour wait I don’t think it’s that I mean you know there’s like two things you can order you I don’t I didn’t know I’m ahead of time too difficult I’m just a girl I’m I’m a Chick-fil-A Stan like I will

Go if I’m in like airport I will go to a different teral charged who doesn’t love Polynesian sauce I like KFC around these parts KFC gez don’t do that whoa whoa I don’t know about that Mina uh real quick before we get to the puretty stuff I

Wanted to bring you in on something Pete Caroll related Pete Carroll uh I saw Mike Lombardi I thought you’d be good because on this subject the Seattle Seahawks you love that team and Pete caroll’s style that Mike Lombardi described as spreading love the word love not just positivity but the loving

Of players can you please tell me how common that is in that sport can you tell me about the idea of Pete Caroll somehow leading through love I don’t think it’s common to the degree that he espouses it or acts upon it or the way his players talk about him

Especially you see a lot of former players who come back whether it’s rejoining the team being around the team I’ve talked to a lot of former players about Pete and almost to a man um the way they speak about him I would say is unique having talked to other players

About other coaches um they absolutely adore him he is like the definition of a player’s coach um they talk about how he believes in them I think Gino Smith was fantastic on that in interview earlier this year about how Pete almost like made him believe in himself and quiet

The critical inner voice which I thought wow if that’s not coaching I don’t know what is um and I know I sound probably like a homer and I’m not like Pete has his flaws including uh trying to get a timeout back the other night but in

Terms of uh the way players feel about him I do think it is unique people are making fun of me here because I don’t know what that does for an environment to have love an environment especially that kind of environment that’s just all military feel all over it uh but they

Were making fun of me because I was actually moved not because Seattle beat Philadelphia the other night but because of how happy Gino Smith genuinely seemed on the sideline for Drew lock and their friendship being something that could feel like that even where I could see

The emotion on Gino Smith even though I couldn’t physically see his face uh cuz he was was just happy for his guy uh I was moved by that and I was surprised that I was moved by that how could you not be moved by it I it was it was cool

To see Drew in his interview with Lisa Salters clearly holding back emotion talking about how you know at times he had lost belief in himself which is so integral to playing the quarterback position and his voice caught a little bit and I I was emotional watching that

But then when you saw the clip of Gino Smith the context the history the awareness that we all have that Gino Smith more than maybe any starting quarterback in the NFL right now understands what it is like to come out as a starter Drew lock you remember was

A starter earlier in his career to lose a job to be seen as a backup to question your own bonafides and abilities and then to come back and do what Gino did last year was amazing he gets the big contract generational money that’s fantastic but who understands what Drew

Lock was going through in that moment more than Gino Smith and we know that we see that and then you see the connection between two of them that shared experience is beautiful can you explain to Mike Ryan and the rest of us with your best of analytics what we’re presently

Witnessing from Brock pie I’m confused mea when I see that mostard isn’t valued with money at a disposable position but he has as many touchdowns as Christian mcaffrey when all of these teams have to find Value cheap players who overperform contracts what is Brock pie what’s the best assessment of Brock

Pie well I think there’s two things we’re not seeing something with Brock pie that we haven’t seen we’re seeing something with this offense and that is not a detriment to Brock pie or any individual players what they are doing as an off right now Dan they’re they’re

On Pace to break a lot of records as an offense um I think they’re fourth in NFL history in yards per play or something but but they’re clearly best offense in the NFL they bring first in just about every category they’re phenomenal and there’s a lot of reasons for that the

Players the coaching the scheme all of it um what we’re seeing from pie is a quarterback who has improved who I think is executing the offense at a really high level who is executing it better than other quarterbacks have in the system and deserves a ton of credit for

That but when we talk about you know what this offense is which is an absolute buzs saww and Nightmare it’s not because of the quarterback it’s because of the offense and you mentioned moster who’s fantastic but Christian mcaffrey when you watch this offense on tape is so clearly to me the straw that

Stirs the drink because what he can do on a football field there there’s no one else in the NFL right now who can do it it’s why I object to when when people point to running back contracts and they say well you know look at chrisan mcaf

Well no chrisan mcaffrey is a unicorn and he’s also paired by the way with a coach who has optimized him in a way a coach who already was a better best play caller in the NFL and has optimized him in a way we haven’t seen his ability to

Run he’s like an incredible Pure Runner uh run routes catch passes and block at a high level makes him the queen on the chess board in this offense and it makes him almost impossible to defend correct me where I’m wrong in this oversimplified analysis but Brock pery couldn’t do much of anything when

Mcaffrey Debo and Trent Williams were all limping around or hurt there was that’s where they lost their games and that’s where people started questioning Brock pie again yeah it was most it was Williams and Debo were out for both of those games in compete and I and I Think

It’s tricky because on one hand you can say well any quarterback if you took out two of their best players would be worse however if you took away I don’t know Kelsey or Diggs those quarterbacks would have no one whereas in San Francisco you still had KD and I like they’re so

They’re the monstar so it’s not really comparable but I think it cuts to it doesn’t mean Brock pie isn’t a good quarterback or that he’s not a great fit for this offense it to me highlights the fact that the offense is the it’s the way they all fit together that makes it

So deadly it’s not a case and we’ve seen this by the way with quarterbacks where sometimes when you watch I don’t know Lamar Jackson over the years is the one that comes to mind Josh Allen at points in his career and you watch them and you

Put them on you say that quarterback is putting this team on his back oh my God everything is running through him that’s not the case in San Francisco and that’s fine I don’t know why like that even to say that out loud is sort of been positioned as hate or bias or anti-y

It’s just a reality it’s acknowledging the context that he’s playing in and if you’re a ners fan you should be thrilled your offense is a machine that is not entirely dependent by the way on one player the way other offenses are how much better is San Francisco healthy

Than the second best team in the league I think think it I think there’s a pretty significant Gap to be honest although you know we’ll see I think Baltimore probably matches up with them better than any team in the NFL so we will see that which at the test of

Christmas of course um but H they’re so balanced you know the defense is though they have some struggles against the run a top five defense as well and then offensively I just think it’s such a nightmare to defend this offense um I think the NFC there’s a pretty significant gap between them and

Everyone else the AFC the top four team uh would make it a little bit more interesting you know momes um I think the Dolphins would be an interesting matchup as well the bills the way they’re playing right now in the Ravens but they are clearly clearly the best

Team in the NFL to be who is the second best team in the NFC because a couple weeks ago clearly it would have been Philadelphia and I’m really confused by what I’m watching yeah their schedule’s gotten tougher but that game on Monday night was certainly a winnable game and

They seemingly went out of their way to to keep Seattle in it I don’t think it’s Philly I think it’s I still think it’s Dallas which I know they got stomped by San Francisco and they just got stomped so that feels off but the reality is

Dallas can play a lot better than what we saw uh some of that had to do with game script too whereas Philly I think the offense can be better and that they’ve been the more disappointing unit but that defense is not good and it’s not good in a way that’s fixable it’s

Not a coaching problem which is why I thought it was kind of strange that they made the coach change um going to Matt Patricia because watching them all season they have Personnel problems there are holes all over that defense injuries as well Talent age that sort of thing that’s not getting better whereas

I think with Dallas there are things that can be fixed entertain in a minute or less for us stugots is hypothetical from yesterday bill bellich is hypothetically available how many teams are firing their present coach for that avail availability uh I maybe half are you surprised that we are

Headed toward a space where bellich is available and it can look like the younger minds are the minds that you’d prefer to have the younger styles of Pete carrols and he’s not younger but the younger style of a Pete carol which connects with players you know yes and no yeah he’s

The best coach in NFL history so of course it’s surprising that he’s not going out on his own terms like that is if you if you say that’s not surprising you’re lying the fact that we’ve gotten to this point um but I think what makes it not surprising and

What makes it likely to happen is his failures as a GM and the problem is that those things have gotten so intertwined you can’t like the the ideal outcome in my mind for New England would be to fire bellich the GM and keep bellich the coach who still very good at coaching

Defensive football situationally I think the offense like the the failures of this team are because of the roster which he built so he deserves blame I I think what likely has happened in New England I’m sure we’ll get you know a 8000w Seth Wickers in piece in time to

Actually kind of tell us what really happened is belich they couldn’t split it like they couldn’t say to him okay we’re gonna it was too humiliating or not something he wanted to give up would be my guess as to why this is coming to an end to be clear that is something

That I just did I just pointed out uh the young style of Pete Carroll who is the oldest coach in the NFL I will pose to mina kimes the question that Chris Long asked me the Dolphins lose in the wildcard round they have a chance here at the end of the

Season to either be the one seed if they can beat the Ravens or fall out of the playoffs under certain circumstances and it seems a likely scenario that they’ll have to face Buffalo two weeks in a row the last week of the season and then first week of the playoffs that can

Happen do you pay Tua what do you pay G ask that I knew it what do you pay Tua how do you handle the finances of this have you seen that um Tik Tock video of the guy with the ponytail who keep saying I reject the question and saying

Both I don’t know if Dan is online enough to have seen it’s it’s excellent uh I I I I saw that I related to it because I feel like I am that guy or at least I try to be that guy every time I

Come on this show and Dan you ask me a difficult question especially one about the Niners or Dolphins I feel like um because my answer is never going to be a definitive yes or no because I am a snake uh my answer is it depends on how

Tua plays in those games uh if Tua really struggles struggles with pressure he makes he can’t extend God forbid he gets hurt whatever then I think you have to ask serious questions but if he plays well and they lose yeah you still pay him um you know I think down the stretch

It it really just comes down to actually what it looks like on the field for me but the reason I want to press you on this is because I would think that you can make your evaluation already why do I need two extra games why do I need one

Game you’re telling me one game I’m making a decision about five years of franchise and you’re telling me I’ve got one game to make it and how he plays in that one game and I’m like don’t you already know what he is if you’re evaluating from the inside don’t you

Already know what his value is I would well first I was thinking more like down the stretch and in the postseason than just one game honestly so I agree with you we wouldn’t be just one game but I don’t I I think you you know what his

Ceiling is I think there are still questions about his ability to routinely hit that ceiling against really good teams and I’m not calling them frauds and whatever Mike MC Daniel said about the narrative but I if I’m a fan base and I want to feel comfortable with having him as a long-term answer

Quarterback and and devoting a great deal of the cap to him I want to feel comfortable with the idea that he can rise to that occasion in those moments overcome adversity he has at points during his career but I think this is a very crucial postseason for them do you

Have a thinkpiece answer for me on how football can’t keep its quarterbacks healthy because football happens to them I don’t I think I I think it can be random to be honest um the the amount of injuries you’ve seen this year the last time was actually like 2014 so it’s not

Like I don’t think the game has changed in a way that is suddenly leading to more injuries I think these things kind of just happen in clusters obviously they changed the rules a lot to try to stop them from happening with quarterbacks but it feels to me like

This is just a bad luck year for a you you’ve said that uh you’ve said that before and I’d like to believe that that is so but it seems weird Mina that they’ve gone out of their way so much to change the rules and it can just be mathematical happen stance but they’ve

Gone so far out of their way to make sure that these players are not hit the fact that all of them are still getting hurt is super weird to me well some of the the injuries are all different like Joe burrow broke his wrist right I mean

It wasn’t like you know he took like a crazy hit and he broke his leg or anything like that and and Dan like it is like it didn’t happen last year to this extent like I’m not watching the sport and thinking oh my gosh they need

To protect them even more or this is a trend it just feels kind of fluky to be honest I I I really believe that to be the case Mina Trevor Lawrence Matthew Stafford bum Joe burrow Justin Herbert Patrick Mahomes and Josh Allen all these quarterbacks have one thing in common

And that is they are presently ranked behind Baker Mayfield in passer rating this season how has Baker turned his career around in Tampa um I think that he is playing in a scheme and situation that we have seen him have success with in the past Mike

You have seen him uh with a front row seed and Cleveland have success with a couple things jump out the pass protection has been actually pretty good in Tampa they were they struggled last year at the offensive line is back on track that matters a lot for Baker

Mayfield who’s always been a quarterback who plays his best football when he protected and struggles at time with pressure I also think that Dave Canales who’s their offensive coordinator used to be in Seattle has really called an offense that leans into his skills you saw that on display against the Packers

The use of play action throwing over the middle of the field uh when Baker is in the right situation he is a good quarterback he’s accurate he’s got a strong arm he has struggled just when that hasn’t been the case is he going to turn into a pumpkin because it’s pretty

Outrageous we’re this late into the season has a better passer rating than Patrick Mahomes that’s pretty impressive for my guy Josh Allen too right yeah P passer rating is not a good stat so okay well he’s also pretty damn impressive from qbr so you are you are alleging

That Baker Mayfield for my money easily The Comeback player of the year uh is going to turn into a pumpkin how do we feel about comeback player of the year and this was the case gin Juan last year being about coming back from being bad or being P that’s what it should be

That’s what it should bear h one tackle on the year where did he come back from half a tackle he came back come on might not even be him God that was a bit of a surprise that was a thing for a while we still a thing Dan no oh it’s still a

Thing it can’t still be a thing oh come on they’re all still there Dan we just don’t hear about them every day NFL player is just not even seeing the field no come on it’s not still a thing it can’t still be a thing I want to believe

That Baker is for real and and I kind of feel that you’re trying to Let Me Down Easy that he’s going to turn into a pumpkin as soon as this week but I I want to believe he’s he’s proven that he’s going to have a career now in the

NFL where last year it kind of felt like it was in Jeopardy I think that is a totally fair assessment I do not think he’s better than the quarterbacks you named at the top um but I do think he has demonstrated this season that in the

Right situation he can still play he he still deserves to be a starter in this league which is incred like it’s a crazy accomplishment I think people are really questioning that about Mayfield Mina I have a question um if Trevor Lawrence was in a bigger Market would he be

Getting a lot more heat than what he is now because he’s kind of a bum I don’t think oh uh I don’t think he’s a bum I I think he’s had a down year I think the situation stinks um the Jacksonville Jaguars have one of the worst rushing

Attacks in football the offensive line is good not good the wide receivers I think have maybe the most drops in the NFL behind the Kansas City Chiefs uh so I wouldn’t put it all on Trevor Trevor’s feet I do think though however like you’re probably right like if he was the

Quarterback of I don’t know the Dallas Cowboys uh he this he would be inciting a lot more debate we would be talking a lot more about can you trust Trevor Lawrence you know is he letting the nation down should he be sent to prison in the way that we talk about Dak

Prescott Trevor Lawrence’s stats some people were pointing out with a lot of look a lot like Daniel Jones’s at least the counting stats your thoughts there or what I think you should watch the games and come to an assessment based on the product that you see on the field I

I I am a stats person but quarterback play in general simply cannot be captured statistically um in a way that I I I think maybe like we lose sight of like there it’s just just so many things go into whether a quarterback is actually playing well you have to watch the game

You have to see the context around him you have to see play calling you have to see who he’s going up against you have to see the protection all of that the decision-making what is he asked to do um and I think to the point about Trevor

I like I want to be clear I don’t think he’s having a great season certainly not by his standards but he is not the biggest problem on this Jacksonville team by any stretch and he is definitely better than Daniel Jones Mina I’m usually not here on Thursdays and I feel

Like we’re I don’t want to be too forward and say we’re friends but I feel like we’re friends enough right to bring something there’s been some chatter around the office and I’m not here so it’s the first I hear of it so I wanted to bring it to your attention the sign

Behind you that says dogs welcome people tolerated there’s some concern that you may be quickly reaching the territory where you have like a bathroom that’s themed like a beach or you have signs in your kitchen that say live every day like it’s Taco Tuesday and I just wanted to bring that to your

Attention in case you were unaware of these Rumblings around this office in particular I I have more of those signs do you want to see I every you definitely have one that says it’s wine o’clock somewhere right okay hold on let me find the other one one second okay we

Will wait for you cannot wait to see what she what kind of but first coffee so what are you accusing her of Maximum moming are you what are you what is the actual accusation the way that it was described to me was Elder Millennial yeah yeah yeah also known as Millennial

Cringe mhm I didn’t say it what you were thinking Lucy oh no Luc see the good is the sign she has emerged with you have just been I I don’t want to say that you were accused of being Millennial cringe but I was asking them what are you

Accusing her of Maxima moming basic I think this is basic is how we would describe people who have these signs and um they are all from my mom so you guys are criticizing Sunman Kim you haters the most loved person on the internet why are you so mean wow and the reason I

Keep this sign up there is just as sort of like a message to her when I’m on TV that I’m thinking about her why do you hate my mom Billy yeah guys I legitimately feel terrible I’m going to carry this with me the rest of the day

I’m not going to name names Mina but they said we want to ask Mina about this but we’re all afraid Billy you do it and I said okay no no that it sounded like you meant it and it hurts honestly I might have to ask her that says family

Fall football I would love that do you have a sign that says in this house we get wild but only till 900 p.m. I have another one that she sent me that says if my dog’s not invited I’m not coming which is pretty good pretty good sign

She really she took you have a sign that says protected by fafo she took out the heavy artillery on you guys she not only summoned her dog around and find out but also her mother she’s in her 7s thank you why you do that Elder Elder Millennial see you later Mina so rude