Warriors beat Celtics, Stephen Curry in the GOAT conversation? | NBA | SPEAK

Shaquille O’Neal went on record to say that Golden State Warriors PG Stephen Curry belongs in the GOAT conversation after the Warriors beat the Boston Celtics 132-126 in overtime. Emmanuel Acho, Joy Taylor, James Jones, and LeSean McCoy debate whether or not Curry has a case for GOAT status.

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2 five is it crazy to say that do you agree with Shaq is it time to put Steph in our best player to I I agree with it yes all the time we talk about the best player in basketball right is it is it LeBron James is it Michael Jordan right

Is it is it um magic is it Kareem is it Shaq we always talk about that now I think we all would probably say either Michael or you probably would go with LeBron but they have the conversation for sure this is why I love Steph Curry being in the conversation of being one

Of the best basketball players of all time this in the conversation when you look at a guy like LeBron James he’s 69 we never seen anybody so freakish athletic can shoot can dribble 69ine big guy freakish okay you look at guy like Michael Jordan who can do everything fly sore over the air

Like an eagle you want that the song you look at a guy like magic a 69 point guard been super successful in College High School came to the league got a champion and Chip right off the gate you see these things Kobe Bryant what can I say more about Kobe being Bryant the

Mamb I mean the kid came from out of high school I watched him in high school super dope and you see the things he’s done you look at Steph Curry 6’2 skinny look at how he came up though small dude small Steph Curry’s not super quick Steph Curry’s not super fast he’s not

Super long with arms he’s not he can’t jump out the gym walking bucket and you put him in confence with these greats he’s changed the game a dude that’s not super athletic not super quick not super talented right but he’s one of the best ever seen he changed the game forever

And I think that a guy like Steph Curry all people can relate to you can’t relate to a guy like Kevin Durant can’t relate to Michael Jordan and mat Johnson you yourself Curry you can see a 62 skinny guy walking the street delivering your newspaper you can see a 62 coach

That never played Pro never played college was a high school coach he makes everybody believe and when you have a guy like that that is so dedicated and they always say work ethic always beats talent I hear that but do you believe that you look at Steph Curry you believe

That I I think the biggest part of Steph Curry’s Legacy is what you said about him changing the game the actual game of basketball in the modern sense is played differently because of Steph Curry how they recruit players how big guys have to defend you used to never have to

Leave the bucket you just stay right there and just be big as hell and that’s your job just jump up and get a rebound now you have to be able to go out and play defense and get back so now it’s influenced other positions as well we

Expect big guys to be able to knock a three down every once in a while it used to be if you were if you were a big man and you even thought about taking a three-point shot they were bench you what are you doing yeah no doubt what

Are you doing get your blood under the basket get under the basket you don’t get to take three-point shots now we celebrate it now it’s a part of their game and that’s all you got to have it you got to be able you got to be able to

Defend out there you have to be you have to be flexible you have to be able to shoot that shot and Steph Curry is the one that’s responsible for all of it and while I do think I don’t want to take away from LeBron or Jordan and what they’ve contributed

To the game as well because obviously they are otherworldly it’s not relatable even though we want to be like Mike it’s always aspirational LeBron the king everybody can’t be the king but to your point Steph is not just relatable he’s made it so that the game is actually

Changed so I I don’t think it’s ridiculous to put him in that conversation obviously we respect what Shaq has to say because of what he’s contributed to the game as well but he has the Championships to back it as well it’s not like we’re just talking about some body’s extreme Talent with no

Results he has a lot of results to validate not only what we’ve seen on the court but what he has contributed to that team now let me add a little tension to this conversation and is this conversation too though but that that’s the tension I want to add cuz we’ve done

This a lot in football hey is this person in the MVP conversation okay well how long is the conversation if we’re putting stuff in the MVP conversation is that now to imply that the conversation is 10 15 20 25 people long cuz in my mind a goat conversation should be

Maintained by two 3 four five people Max so are we putting Steph in a conversation that now has 15 people in it cuz that kind of saturates or dilutes the conversation so right now right you got Kareem right right I would say three people are in it who’s that Kare Mike

And BR okay those are the three people I I like that I just you Kobe’s in there and Magic it depends what you like that’s why I love it because it’s it’s a conversation like like sha was the most dominant player and if you only want

Talk about the greatest I mean he can have he have an argument with there nobody can stop him nobody and then even Kareem K is 7 fo that sky like he’s went everywhere everywhere’s been he’s won so you can always argue I guess your points and your opinions on who should be the

Best I’ll listen I’ll listen to arguments Jam about St I’ll listen to arguments about stuff no doubt about it but the problem I have is I think we are just misconstruing our words and Shaq caught himself doing it Shaq said I mean he’s my favorite player and Kenny said

Well I mean well you his favorite but you said best I think Steph is the most exhilarating I think he might be the most dynamic I might think he might be the most impressive he might be the most fun to watch but when you’re saying best

James that carries a lot of weight that carries some defensive weight Steph don’t play no defense yeah so when you’re saying best you’re saying a lot more than just best shooter like that means something no doubt and I mean nobody is going to look at you crazy if

You say Steph is my goat of all time ain’t nobody going to look at you crazy Steph has accomplished a lot of stuff on the basketball court but when I think about the goats number one LeBron James plays every position but at small forward right when you look at small

Forwards he’s the greatest small forward to ever play the game there’s no other body person that you going to say is better than LeBron at his position same with Mike when you talk about shooting guard there’s nobody else that you putting in front of Mike when we talk

Point guards it’s people you might choose in front of Steph Curry so he’s arguably not even the best point guard of all time I mean some people like Isaiah some people like mag man bro I’m just saying some people like those it’s a conversation as greatest point guard

It ain’t no conversation as greatest small forward our greatest shooting guard we know who those are our greatest Center we know who those are so for me if if it’s an argument about you being the greatest at your position I don’t know how you can be the greatest

Basketball player of all time and yes I agree with shady and joy he has changed the game when you talk about shooting the basketball I yell at my kids now shoot another three if you don’t go to the whole shoot another get you out you know so he has

Changed the game but greatest of all time see not only changing the game though like like even the the the way they Scout now even the way they they they call a offense you see all threes from everybody not just this team everybody and another thing about step I

Was talking about is how is it that this guy is not as athletic not as talented right not as tall not as quick not as fast but he’s give you the same type of production even more than all these other dudes a guy like Westbrook right should be better than Steph Curry guy

Like John wall linky talking jumping they they should be bur Steph Curry and they not close you get what I’m saying so it’s like if I’m going to scout players I’m going to take the 6566 point guard with the handle long arms I’m taking him but nowadays I can’t say that

You know why a do number 30 that plays for the G you’re not I don’t think you’re wrong I don’t think whaty saying I just think it’s still not it doesn’t make him the best because what we all have done here is when you’re talking about the best whether it is Kareem

Whether it is LeBron whether it is Mike all dudes also were locked down defenders in their Prim I do think the two-way the two-way discussion makes it more difficult to argue for the greatest of all time I will submit speak I think that he is unequivocally one of the most

Influential players of all time the court cuz because once we start getting into the the totality of sports like obviously Jordan is the most but on the court Steph has influenced the actual game of basketball in a way that might not ever change only Shaq yeah you know

What I mean but even Shaq like there’s only one Shaq like there’s only one man that is that big and that athletic and that good at basketball at his size correct Steph has actually influenced like I said not just his position at point guard everyone else correct but I

Think again these are different conversations we’re we’re agreeing with you the greatest of all time is a very it’s a very highly contested wait so wait let me ask question though all yall you talking I’ll let you go first Joy you would probably say Michael’s the

Best of all time yeah Michael is a goat to me that’s he’s my goat also but so what what makes Michael Jordan the greatest player of all time in your opinion I think he was an he was great in every aspect of the game on the court

He was one of the most influential winners yes he was the leader of a dynasty he he transformed the sport there’s a there’s a lot of reasons why so when you say them things right and I totally agree with you yeah but when I think about Steph yeah he has a lot of

Those things as well you getar what I’m saying so it’s not a crazy conversation everything you can say about MJ you can say about and I think MJ’s better a lot better than Steph Curry I’m just saying when you talk about the of the greatest

Of all time like Steph got a point about where where I would give MJ the nod as the defense yeah okay you know it was great defense but it was time you know time no no no I’m an MJ crazy fan of course so I’m I’m ride with MJ he’s the

Greatest of all time but is is it’s it’s even easier and better right when you got a better defender on your team you know what I can lock up he’s might have a couple buckets on me scottty get him because I seen it I seen the first time

They played um on the road they played um um the Lakers and Magic had his way y’all forgot y’all forgot no keep cooking gu what he said hey Scot gon grab that grab that and after that Scotty locked magic up the whole series and what they do got

The ring but then his first ring to me then it’s not a conversation because if you’re saying that Michael is the best by far to me then the conversation is open and it is closed I me well well for me right what Shaq said was the conversation so I think LeBron James

Deserves to be one of the best players in that conversation right I think MJ’s the number one though I think MJ is the greatest yeah Steph is the same thing but you would in that conversation but you in my mind like to be in the conversation you wouldn’t say that

Jordan is clearly better than LeBron you be like now I’ll take Jordan I’ll take give me Jordan but like any in the in the in the comp that Joy brought up with uh that you and Joy were sparring about what she brought up is everything that Steph could do Jordan did outside of

Shooting a three ball Jordan did a little bit better galvanizing A Team Jordan galvanized it a little bit better winning chips Jordan did it obviously a little bit better Revolution in the game Jordan did it a little bit better so how I don’t know about that one

Revolutionizing the game I mean I mean I hear you but like look I mean bro man there’s a different conversation between off the court and on the court I’m just saying I’m saying we talking about on the court when you watch the game now though I know you getting Y at for

Shooting a two ball why you make that layup I don’t care open you see him open three like that’s what it is now dud is coming from half court look at look at the way they playing yo shooting the ball a deep three was a bad decision

Right now you look look at it you can do like like Lillard shooting freaking from half court and everybody want to be like Mike Mike is on football I hear you bro I hear you Mike ain’t caught a football ever Mike is on football completely I’m speaking more I’m sorry I’m speaking on

The court but even even on the court though I would say because remember your favorite player’s favorite player was Mike so the so when you when we talk about it in football we talk about coaching trees right and often times we think about greatness based on the

Coaching tree Jordan still has a greater basketball tree but obviously so so so right now who plays like MJ a lot of people try Kobe left nobody remember hold on hold on Tatum tried to play like Kobe and Kobe tried to play like Mike so it’s still it’s still a

Tree I would say Kobe’s influence is is because of Mike because Kobe modeled his game but what I’m saying is like if you’re looking at changing the game right and affecting the game so MJ he was different who a they they not doing all that right inut Kobe was the closest

Thing to him that’s my my favorite player correct other than Kobe like who else you said tat t play like MJ but no Tatum tries to play like Kobe and Kobe tried to play like Mike I I don’t think so I don’t think has literally said it

Like I don’t can we say say like he want to play the Kobe I I don’t care what they said but but the point is who play like Steph Curry I want to know that but nobody does but it’s all about what do they aspire to do okay I know when when

I look at the TV right when I look at the TV from what Jordan was playing to now it looks like everybody’s mimicking the warrior style and Steph Curry style am I tripping no no no so when you ask me who’s affecting the game come on Well Steph is affecting

The game right now crazy crazy been in the league because I mean the way he shoots the basketball but the conversation is greatest of all time like if if somebody asks you who’s the greatest of all time out hold out of Mike and out of Mike and Steph it’s

Going to be bro watch out yeah you know what I’m saying like if somebody says who’s the greatest out of LeBron and Jordan we all said we taking Jordan but it’s a heck of a conversation it ain’t like that with Steph Curry so that’s why my thing is like when you talk greatest

Of all time and if you put them two people in the same room you going to look like Steph go over there all the stuff you accomplish and everything you Chang all I’m saying is a conversation I think it’s a conversation we have a conversation

About right now you we just did about 12 minutes about it we did a solid 12 minute block on it it is a conversation rock with so then then my only follow you know it’s not well I ain’t even going to get let somebody catch a stray

But there are lots of people who who we wouldn’t need is my my goat too I’m G say this I think it’s hardest the guard self carry is guard MJ think about hold up think about feel a Defender though just hear me out for a

Second though I know it sound ER I don’t care just hear what hear what I’m saying MJ is he MJ MJ right he he up there give me the ball Steph is REM give me the ball I don’t need none of that imine if you Defender let’s put yourself as

Defender right not don’t look at the names look at the defender G Mike it’s going to be hard as hell anyway but think about it I’m away on you you got to watch him before he get the half court where he at all right he running here you want be tight as H

Coach I need he no greatness no we’re not we’re not in the hand check era it might be a different conversation yeah St Steph would be more taxing but it’s kind of like what’s harder running uh two miles or running 400 you going to have hold up

He going to take off the dribble too right step back then he going to go through these pcks when he with the ball then he going to pass the ball off and I’m run around the pcks just hear me out for a second he like he like he like Ray

Allen a young Ray Allen with an older Reggie Miller like he’s give Stephanie his respect I’m a basketball has his respect Hees respect he his respect got the the respect and all that he does then he might not be the greatest player of all time cuz he’s not Michael Jordan I think

Michael is number one but he’s in that convers 100% that’s why I started off if you having a conversation with what Steph accomplished you ain’t wrong nobody going to look at you crazy but when you talk about the greatest of all time and you say who’s better Mike or

Steph everybody I got my Jord on right I got my I got my J right everybody be like come on man give me mik subscribe here to get the latest from speak and go watch a few segments from our other shows on FS1