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Welcome back to the channel guys today joining us with Sam Smith at go prepars for you where we’re going to be talking lles aren’t we yeah like I said it’s such a big factor in ir and like said it’s just making sure you know what you know settle you need basically I mean

The question we’re going to answer today is how much can Liang girl actually affect ball fly you know I think a lot of you guys probably do know a little bit about Liang girl in terms of sort of statically fitting and but how much you know do they know about Dynamic fitting

Because what a lot of people don’t realize Samy is people don’t always get fitted for L angle based on the static measurements do they no like I said you got your static fited like a reference point but then yeah like I said it all depends how you hit

The ball as well so I said with like the foresight software I use you know you’ve got like the stickers you can put the face I’ll pick up a dynamic lie and again it’s just physically seeing ball flight as well the end of the day if it’s flying straight then it’s working

Really so just explain subscribers what we going to do today how we’re going to test this yes we’re going to again we’ll exaggerate a little bit to see but we’ll do kind of standard line we’ll do 3° flat and we’ll do 3° up and like I said

That should give you a big enough range that you should definitely see some impact um and again nothing thing to point out there’s no kind of standard in the industry everyone’s brands have a different standard so what even if you went to say you know standard line Muno

And you got fitted and then next sets of TI list you the lle even though you say standard it’s probably one or two degrees different and I’m sure there’ll be a lot of people at home that’s done that before I’ve 15 I’m one degre up right and then the order the next

Naturally I’ll be the same line but like I said all you need to be fitted into is the actual you know degree not so much if I’m one up to one flight Etc um so yeah like I said we we’ll we’ll get you kind of hitting all three and just see

What it does well let’s get started but don’t tell me what each Club is so we’ll do it blind you just pass me the club I’ll hit maybe five balls for each Club yeah and then we’ll have a look and discuss and I’ll try and guess at the

End which I think you know obviously was the fre up standard and FL yeah and at the same time what I’ll do I’ll just double check your online angle you know see what you actually end up being and again you know I don’t know what you’ve

Not told me what your Speck is with your Ping irons but like I said it again might potentially be different depending what you kind of did in the process when you ordered yours yeah so yeah we’ll see right so we’re going to start by doing a

Bit of a static fit aren’t we yes so we’re going to risk the floor measurement like said just to get your reference point you know if I do an IR fit in for or often live chat with anyone I do this said just to see where

To start with yeah plus it’s not always a case for you know whatever your reference point is and your static fit that you end up being that all depends how you come into the ball base I think this will be a great sort of example for

You guys at own why it’s so important not just to have a static fitting because you might assume that whatever I’m statically measured for with Sam now will provide you know if what well let’s just go through it let’s see what I actually take glove off me for a sec

Yeah I measure it with a glove hand yeah if you can keep your yeah back straight feet shoulder with apart your palms facing outst to your sides perfect uh I’ll do your wrist floor you just measure from a wrist crease basically so 97 CM that’s the

First wrist crease yeah just fair so if we look at the chart like I said ping chart such an easy kind of way to to show everyone like so we can put it up on the screen as well uh but yeah I said 97 CM what’s your height Gary I’m 6’2

62 so yeah you’re coming up yeah you’re very kind of borderline between white and silver dot which is very upright um but again this is where you have a conversation but because you like to play a fade yeah it’s like if you went to four degree up you know

Could you even physically be able to fade it well this is where you guys at home are going to you might assume that the three degrees UPR club which we’re going to blind test would give me the best results yeah I’m not sure if it

Will I mean I don’t want to get into any sort of conclusion before we even start but it’d be interesting to see because I’ve never actually tried a club Sam at standard or I’ve never owned a club at standard light or three degrees flight it’s just something I’ve never tried

Yeah I said if if you again if you always know you’re going to be upright you’ll always order upright until you physically go in depth and try it like me for example I think I’m in between kind of two and fre up and I play my

Eyes one flat and again it’s but only you would do that because you’re a golf pervert and you’ve got the access to all of this that’s the thing it’s just exactly it’s having the access to it and you know just and having the access to fit it’s all right having the equipment

You know there’s plenty of places that have a lot of equipment but you got to have the right person to fit it who’s got I don’t I don’t have to say but they got the balls to fit you for something that way away from your static fittings

A lot of Fitters will be dead comfortable in just thinking well if we stick to that static measurement you know it might develop into set or it’s a safe it’s a safe way to fit someone I think the without getting bad feedback I think the only way I’d ever do St fit

And reliable if someone’s a beginner golfer yeah because you know that’s a starting point and like vering could change drastically even over like a month so that’s anytime I’d ever do that if you want to you if you said oh I’ve just brought a random set of irons can I

Just check and I just go L I’d probably again it depends on ball flight but it’s very consistent flight I’d just go a static fit but that’s generally the only time I’d ever do it anytime it’s you know people have play for a long time

You know I’d always just go in depth a lot more I think the main thing is you know like I said we’ll see the Loft and line machine in a minute but I think having that right next to when you’re hitting it’s such a key thing literally

You know bend it hit it bend it again you know a lot of places would be like oh yeah we’ll just do live board and that’ll be it basically um so yeah let say we anyway let’s get cracking so we’re testing with the pxg 0317 T which uh looks a lovely looking

Ed by way it’s really good it came out a bit later than the other 0317 range but yeah it’s uh it’s like a p770 kind of thing like a slim Holo Club yeah we five you know with each one go we’ll see uh we’ll see how they

Go I mean looking down at it if I was going to have a guess you know what was golf is like when you look down at your clubs you can sometimes guess what club it is C you yeah you know like Loft wise I would say looking at lie wise I’m

Going to have a bit of a guess and I’m going to say that looks to me standard right okay certainly looks a little bit flatter than uh than you used what I have I mean I’m going to be honest I actually use two upright okay uh which I was

Surprised when you just statically measure me there you’re saying that I actually statically measure it 3 to four don’t I yeah so green that yours are yeah mine are green yeah that felt lovely that one maybe there’s just no help for me if this is of course

Standard I can’t see me liking it when it’s flat cuz I’ve never had anything like less than yeah I you mean probably like one degree upright so yeah yeah I said well um you have no idea well yeah you never know you never know imagine so

Yeah let me uh alter it now so if you just don’t see what I’m kind of altering it to how much do these actually Bend then um cuz you’re going to move that from three up to three flat 6° in theory yeah it yeah it’s Forge so yeah it’s

Generally fine obviously anything cast you’re always very limited you know maybe one or two degrees it just depends on the brand really I you how quality the club is I saw um something online um cuz a lot of Brands now are stamping forged onto the clubs when in fact it’s sometimes just a

Face that’s forged is it yeah I did see that that was it T200 weren’t it is that how it work yeah cuz they do customization said I can’t get around why it w Bend yeah yeah I saw it last night yeah I saw that but to be fair does it really

Matter apart from moving the club whether the body is forged not really I think in his case cuz he does a lot of customization he couldn’t do as much as he as he could but yeah like I said shouldn’t make much difference I think if you’re want in a forge Club they

You’re probably want it to feel soft AR you so as long as the face is soft yeah like I said it’s not a huge issue if you you like the hosle and the back of a club’s kind of cast yeah um but yeah I

Think a lot of them are going a bit more misleading and just say forged because part of the club’s forged yeah um so yeah you got to be careful if you want like a a true kind of forged Club yeah but fair you can always generally tell when you’re bending something if

It’s properly forged what’s best forged CL you’ve ever had uh Muno hard to be I’d say in terms of kind of quality um Quality and price uh yeah quite cuz cuz I thought Bron like that was supposed to be good yeah so anything it’s like Japanese market

Like epon s like hmer you they’re brilliant but like said price points generally very high yeah so like I said yeah they they like butter but yeah it comes of a price right let me have a guess let look away for a you’ve got me this has to be

Flatter it has to be cuz toes to like wanting to stick down and I can see heel lifting off floor a little bit now yeah I’d have to kind of lower my hands so definitely can see that that’s flatter be interesting to see what this does to B cuz in theory this should

Actually help me shouldn’t it yeah so if it is flatter like you say the toes should dig in and kind of want to open the face a bit um so again I can dictate ball fly definitely that actually felt really nice at impact by the way way H would

Pretty neutral to be honest no one’s ever given me a flat Club to test that’d be crazy love this connection as well sometimes you can see a bit of an increase in ball speed if you if you change L angle because you just compress it the right right way

Really a few people said to me Sam as well um with Sumit fittings that we’ve done already is why are you fitting around why aren you going and have a lesson kind of thing yeah but I feel as I’ve played golf long enough to kind of

Know that I’m although I might not be perfect I repeat what I do pretty well yeah you know like and also like I’m not aspiring to spend a lot of time on practice you know practicing these days I’m busy with work busy vlogging I just

Want to build the clubs you know to be as good as possible for me and I think the same for a lot of you am your golfers we’ve not got time to practice that’s why when you do a fitting you got to make sure it’s absolutely spot on but

It’s going to help best can that to me definitely seems a little bit straigh it feels as though like yeah um it’s it’s more fade bias I know mean I’ve noticed I feel like your carries a little bit better um well them first two strikes felt amazing felt so much better

Interaction God fitting is crazy is’t it really you’ve got to probably get out of your mind static fitted yeah with completely open mind and like I said it’s you can be soed Stone what statically a measure yeah yeah it’s crazy I wonder how far the pros deviate from static measurements when they’re

Fitting yeah I’ve always wanted to know that in terms of what their what the specs are and what we actually should be and like the swing weights we do and stuff like that cuz you look at like like Bryson’s swing or I don’t know swing they can’t be they can’t

Yeah might be similar fur is quite tall and it’s like again again have BR swing I think he’s seven up which is like definitely not seven up right yeah I think he’s not going to measure that statically is no no way he’d have to have like really tiny arms

Basically we can see straight to away like you know definitely more right sided or well not really right sided more straight really yeah but if you look at distance as well we’re going further yeah whether that’s compression’s better or ball speed goes up you know we can obviously look at the

Day in a minute I think confidence wise you know like when it six it’s like it’s looking as though it wants to be open more yeah face I don’t know and that’s that’s why I think I’ve gone to you one flat where you know I hate seeing it

Left and it just feels like I can kind of hold the face open longer yeah that was the one that I felt like had pulled there so it’s still not as left yeah that that swing would have been worse than that one on the left you know the red one

Yeah right so what you think to that there well that’s certainly the most upright club and and this is probably the club that most retailers would fit me for you know obviously like said if that’s the U right one that would be very close well that is B yeah that is

What you’d be we said three up to three well three four degre you can tell me S I’m not death that’s the upright one is it well yeah it’s quite obvious it’s one I’m looking down at now it’s quite hard to do a blind test for I don’t actually

Like it yeah I know you mean that’s the closest to my own clubs yeah isn’t it it is like say if yours are two or but it’s not far off and again we have to see what Ping’s exact spec is but yeah it won’t be far off that was just a miss

It even though the bottom me though you can still Clos the face aren’t ially have to take that to not AFF that numbers too much but depends depends if you do that kind of five times I suppose yeah well I mean look we’ll take that one out guys it wer a good strike

Um let’s get five more why am I not eting that so well I think cuz it’s he was digging in personally I know we’ve gone maybe quite a bit of an extreme change but yeah still it’s maybe no coincidence why get two very similar kind of mishits

I think that’s more lle than anything I’ll be honest I’m going to have to just try I mean to be fair I do try and fade my own irons any obviously I’m just obviously going from one that we going pretty straight put the same swing on it now

Yeah but that’s the thing you don’t feel like you have to manipulate it um which I think a lot of people do even that that was the biggest fed swing ever and it still missed slight I mean it went a bad shot but that just shows how much I’m

Fighting to well for me it’s a consistency like You’ it the free flat everyone’s at the green yeah standard do you think what well yeah you bit three or four one’s definitely missed but then you eight one so far out maybe we don’t take them out I mean this is the real

Thing you know maybe we take one of them out but I think if You’ have done one of them four but to honest not great so I think that’s just kind of telling you I don’t feel comfortable here just stood over it before I even hit it just don’t look aspiring to

Me I think you can tell cuz I’m so nervous for take the bloody Club away I’m stood over it like you can see it look at the ball flight change yeah just draws so much more I’m stood over it and I can’t take the clubway you know like

When you get that you need to ring ping and say can you change my get to be honest yeah you’re not wrong I’d do that because again we we’ll change a color dot as well I think F could you bend them much I can bend but your best friend doing it

If you’re already with them I think that’s five I I think we stick with that I me we going to set them out guys but I honestly think that that’s more due to Club than me yeah at least any of it five no shot have been taken out but

Again you can see that I think if it was one then take it out but because you’ve done three which are really not great yeah and then two not bad like I think that’s just more lingle saying that it’s not working it is I’m stood over it and

Like I said I’m nervous to take it away and I feel like I’ve got to really manipulate it to keep it straight well like said the flat eye just does it naturally you going force it and again you felt like you didn’t have to put a

Fate swing on and it was just very neutral ball flight yeah um so yeah we’ll have a look at numbers now it’ be interesting right then what are these numbers showing yeah I’ll be honest Gary they’re way you know different than I thought like I said three degree Flats form way

Better you look at ball speed I said we can put this on the screen as well to make it easier but like I said 11 19.8 ball speed sanded L 11 16.4 3 Dee up 112.8 so that just shows in terms of a line angle change how much you can press

In a flat L angle better um and again if you look at like the deviations how much kind of the numbers fluctuate I said ball speed with standard is most consistent fair enough but obviously still slower uh launch angle will stay very similar in ter of deviation but the

3 Dee flat launches higher again potentially because it’s delivering a more open phase yeah but again you look at spin that varies a bit but again deviation is definitely best with 3 Dee flat and again like you look at the dispersion you know definitely tied to

Circle with the the flat the blue the blue line I mean even trajectory look at the trajectory guys on the blue yeah it’s completely different it’s a high launch it’s high launch and Spins uh kind of middle of a road but yeah like because it’s flown quicker through the

Air and it’s launch high it’s really different ball flight I can’t wait to show them this other bit as well Club speed yeah like I said if you’re looking if you look now cuz anybody at all might be thinking now we’re hitting harder with the 3° flat yeah you’ve only done 1

Mile an hour which isn’t a huge amount but look at your efficiency difference as well so that’s quite similar but you swung get one and a half mile off slow with a standard lie look at the difference between fre up and threee flat and like I said the fre UPS most

Similar to your current setup yeah so it this shows you can’t get that connection again path doesn’t really vary so it shows that’s kind of consistent in terms of you the ball flly um angle attack varies a little bit but nothing major I mean like obviously if you were

Fitting me then with this data you probably might need to do a few a little bit more testing but yeah what would you no one’s ever suggested never no one’s ever suggested anything less than one degree upright and you think I’m going to be like minus you’re definitely flat

I mean you can see even standard light it’s still it was all right yeah but when you look at the ball speed difference and you dispersion you know you’d have probably settled on standard light if you’d have not tried flat yeah but again then you try flat and you can

See dispersion gets even better ball speed’s even better um yeah it’s just such a big difference but like I said look at the distance you know 2 carry compared to 165 and 159 that’s a massive difference and again total we know it’s running a little bit because it’s kind

Of running onto a green but like I said carry is kind of the main thing yeah like I said again three variants to the yard same for standard but 11 yards variance of right because you can’t get that connection as soon as you lose that connection and VAR look at like ball

Speed deviation it’s massive with the upright because you you’re getting inconsistent strikes so for me yeah we’d have to do more testing but definitely flat it maybe not fre degree but again you can see how consistent it was yeah but yeah I think 100% you’d be flat L angle wow that’s unbelievable so

Yeah it’s very surprising like said based off your static fit and based off your high