PGA Tour officials have reportedly threatened members with sanctions should they enter LIV Golf Promotions, contrary to earlier reports but it seems that the u-turn they making with liv golf is completely damaging the pga reputation and trust that golfers. PGA Tour could have made huge controversial LIV Golf U-turn with huge damage to their trust
PGA Tour officials have reportedly changed their minds on members competing in LIV Golf’s first-ever Qualifying School event at Abu Dhabi Golf Club next month but what does this mean for the pga tour and liv golf. What will now happen in liv golf and pga tour.
LIV Golf Promotions will see a number of hopefuls compete to earn a place with the breakaway league contest in a 72-hole qualifier across three days in December. Following the end of the event the top three finishers from will earn a LIV tour card for 2024 but now this has all changed…
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HUGE U TURN! but why?! i feel they keep doing this and it’s not a good message?
Comes back to the root of the argument….Are players independent contractors or contracted players ?. Answer this question and it makes everything clear cut but no one seems to be able to provide a definitive answer. Hence why it will have to go to court someday ?.
The whole thing is totally confusing. I thought the tours were merging. So why can't players play where they want to.
Why dont those trillionares just buy the pga tour
Jay Monahan and the pga tour is a bad joke that we keep hearing. This is why nobody cares or watches the pga tour. The best players in the world play on the LIV Tour.
This goes to show that Jay does not know what he is doing. Changing rules as he goes. Should accept the fact the Great white shark has a better visions and ways to promote golf world wide.
I like hearing about the players that make the transition. Bryan Bros in the Bahamas was the PGA Tours shot at winning iver lots of people but didnt. Offer George a sponsor exemption and a YouTube filming opportunity and watch how much yhey would grow LIV if they were interested. I think if all the players are allowed back when if they merge well then yake the money now and head back if that ever happens.
Never really understood the reaction of the main tours to LIV. Instead of seeing it as another professional outlet with massive amounts of money for pros to play for, they see it as a threat! Surely fining players is a restriction of trade in law? I’m surprised a main golf channel hasn’t taken up rights to show LIV golf, lots of characters, tournament innovations.
The PGA Tour will not survive if it does not work in partnership with LIV. If it carries on like this more of the top players will move to LIV, sponsors will pull out or decease funding. This is being so badly managed, partly because the politicians are sticking their noses in.
Got my 1st ever hole in one on Saturday 😊
Revenge for the Rahm situation
Jimmy Walker, Duffer, to name 2
Pgatour has already screwed the rank and file by awarding triple fedex points to the elevated events, this means the top 50 are a protected species, couple of top 10s and they will retain top 50 while a regular player would have to get 10 x top 10s to match the points. Its a closed shop and patently un meritorious.
It’s a bit like cutting all of the trump courses after hosting many successful events there for political reasons
The PGA tour says its Number 1 with all the top players but in actual fact they are shitting their pants trying to keep players.
Jay Monahan is a cancer that will kill the PGA
PGA shooting themselves in the foot yet again! They will be changing their name to Tiger and Rory four ball tour if they can keep 4 players.
The principles over which some of the players of PGA initially disagreed with LIV still apply, namely that this is nothing more than the Saudi government through LIV are merely buying their way into a sport in the same way they have done with football and ‘greenwashing’ their their oppressive regeime.
The PGA tour thought that they had a monopoly on the game of golf until 2 years ago. This is the reaction of an entity who simply cannot come to terms with an alternative choice. This is showing and exposing every flaw in the PGA model.
My peers and I no longer watch pga golf. The coverage is rubbish. Having said that we do not watch LIV either. PGA must up their game, they are losing all of their talent. Change is good!!
I actually think the PGA tour is digging their own grave these days, they don't seem to have any interest in the golf it's all about making headlines that confuse players making them uncomfortable, no one knows what they actually stand for these days. They change opinion all the time. Its been said before but i really think the chairman has to go, we need to get some new idears and eyes in there. But lets see they might change opinion again by the end of this week. I wasnt the biggest fan of LIV to begin with but PGA kind of made me change my opinion, these days I rude for LIV to take over the hole thing, cause it seems like PGA dont wanne look inwards and find solutions they are more interested in making bad headlines and making the golfers feel unsafe.
Six months on and nothing but OWGR denying points, entertaining Endeavor Group and Fenway Sports as options other than PIF and now this. Looks as if the players on the Tour Policy Board aren’t going to let Monahan ride off into the sunset with “New Co” that easily.
Wow, Alex you are all in with both feet knee high on this LIV crap. Me no likey.
If the PGA tour had not treated it's players like a Dictator over the peasants–highly paid peasants—and treated them more as PARTNERS in the enterprise, LIV would never have happened. You keep kicking an old dog and sooner or later you are going to get bit!
PGA Tour becoming a laughing stock!
Pro golfers are self employed business people. As such they should be able to decide on what they want to do for their business. End off.
The PGAT is all about growing the game, as long as they own the game.
The PGA Tour, have no choice, the anti competition ruling from the courts, cuts out their ability to bully the players, as they did previously. Before the ruling, they could dictate policy, but the ruling clipped their wings, and are likely afraid to upset their wealthy new partner in PIF.
All pro golfers, should be free to play on any tour, if they meet the criteria for that league/tour.
I said the same very early on, when the PGA Tour began threatening the players, that the PGA Tour, should have let LIV take whoever wanted to go, and allow players to play on whichever tour they chose to play on. That way, there would have been much less animosity from some of the players, as they would know their friends/co-pro's would return to play soon.
LIV has huge gaps in the schedule and would have moved their comps to suit the biggest PGA Tours showcase events. Everyone, wants to see the best players, and that should have been the main focus from day one, how do we fit it all in. That way, players would choose and have to deal with those choices, if they lost at one venue, knowing they just might have gained a better result at a course they know well. Life should be about choices, especially when our Pro golfers are self-employed.
WELL THE PGA HAVE NEVER BEEN FOR THE PLAYERS THEY ALWAYS WANT TO BE JUST A MONOPALY NOTHING HAS GHANGED
Makes me wonder if it's really Fed-Ex that owns the majority share of the pga
The problem is that the pga doesn't have any leader
The PGA's mistake was merging in the first place. I stopped watching and started playing more instead. Myquality of life has improved 100x and I don't miss the PGA…not even the majors. Who gives a flying fuck about millionaires consorting with terrorists? Give me a break. Fuck them all.
Does anything make sense in this saga?
No blood money for PGA hahahahah they took it🎉
It´s a free world, right?
I´m not completely aware of what contract or obligation (if any) players have with PGA. But go play golf wherever they want. The best players will play where the best money is. And until now it has been the PGA. Look on any other sport and say thats not the case, so why not golf.
But I still think the best solution is to coexist. But just maybe the PGA will be in the no.2 position of having the best players, only time will tell.
And the world ranking is another shit show when more of the best players in the world plays on LIV. It´t worked as long the PGA had all the best players (becuse there was the most money), but no more.
I will open an cold one 🍺 and pop some popcorn 🍿 and keep following the drama unfold.
Obviously the tours have rules and can punish players but as I’ve said from the beginning hey need to get rid of those rules.
Imo if a players has a card, they should be able to play as much of as little as they want. If playing too little means they lose their card, so be it. If they can keep their card playing just one event so be it.
Give your pros freedom.
But at the same time LIv should drop to 12 events and all the players on LIv should play all the events, as that is their thing having everyone there every time.
Imo the best thing for everyone is what I just described. Mom tour should be in the business of punishing the tour pros they ideally want in their events.
This whole punishing and fining pliers needs to stop.
LIv brings a lot of money to then eat players on earth.
My take is always the same, the sport needs to embrace this. We can still have all those other tours and embrace this super prosperous tour. We can still have the top pga tour ad DP world tour events …we can have it all golf world.
The commissioners just need to remember their job is to make pro golfers as much money as possible. By blocking something like LIv bringing in so much money for the players, those organizers are not doing what is best for the players.
youre not naming them so you dont know who they are name them if you do by all accounts it seems rahm could be a done deal but nothing offical yet so only speculation
Cannot think of a better “American knows best” example than the arrogant PGA tour. Reminds me of the World Series of Baseball that only takes place in America….
Jay and the old men’s club has killed the PGA. They just cannot see nor will they accept that the world is different. They think we live in a time of rotary dial phones, limited entry to golf, and what ever Tiger wants. The players I want to see are playing on LIV. Heck, the LPGA is more fun, more exciting than the PGA. I want people playing great golf, not making golf oriented political talking points. When you do that, you get winners and losers. Where do they get off thinking they’d be the winners. Greg and Jay had their day. Get them out. Let’s focus on the game.
I cannot wait until sponsors and a major channel pick up LIV and even I’d watch past competitions. I not longer care what Rory or Tiger think or do. Even my underdogs are with LIV. If I manufactured golf equipment, I’d find my way to LIV tomorrow. It would be a bargain for the first to move.
Played 27 holes saturday in freezing cold and was on the range after till dark freezing my nuts off, DEDICATION!
PGA tour leadership sucks
I'll be watching LIV and the Majors in 2024