Shock merger between the PGA Tour and LIV Golf is at risk of collapse as Saudi defectors Phil Mickelson and Ian Poulter both warn of another huge exodus of big-name golfers to the breakaway circuit! This is a Huge day in the entire framework agreement and could be a end of anything we through of a merger for LIV golf the PIF and the PGA Tour!
SHOCK Merger Between PGA Tour & LIV GOLF AT RISK OF COLLAPSE! We also hear from tow huge names in golf Phill Mickelson & Ian Poulter on who could be joining the tour as apparently there are some huge names that want to join the LIV goal league
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45 Comments
Is it over? Well see what you think after this!!!
I play off 2. Give me 500k now and I'll play all my local courses for life. If I've got 10 million I don't need any more.
I want to see DOD King on LIV, that would be just awesome, at least to me. lol
Is this channel funded by Liv? (Genuine question)
Golf should be international like F1, moto gp and so on. Ryder cup was soooo much fun.Imagine team golf all around the world that would be so much more fun!World cup as single and as team.
Let the PGA tour sink on its own
Phil has been right about a lot
The LIV Tour DOES NOT need the old and stale PGA tour. The LIV Tour is the future of golf for the fans! It's relaxed. It's fun. The quality of play is great. The team concept is neat. The shotgun start is clever. The 54-hole format is fine. And the commentators, like Troy Mullins, are fun. What's not to like? You go watch the John Deere Classic. I'll watch LIV Adelaide!
I could see a disgruntled Meronk going for the LIV tour – but it's all up to one name; as goes Rahmbo so goes the PGA
Yeah some lower level PGA players may join LIV to get their hands on the money, but that wont make the LIV tour any better. The level is allready poor
Easy solution for me. Done watching golf! Saudi Arabia in not a friend to the USA. The Ryder cup was a joke.
Who are the BIG names? Sure you might get some players who bolt to LIV but they know what is in store for them when they do. No world ranking points and no chance at the Ryder Cup. As for the majors, perhaps they will cave and let some players in but I still believe those players will have to prove their skill by playing in Asia or elsewhere and winning before the PGA, R&A, USGA and Masters lets them in. IMO, as long as LIV is a member/member tournament construct, they will get the short end of the stick.
Other athletes in other sports sign somewhere for juet a few million dollars difference. Im sorry with the discrepancy in pay pga tour players are an anomaly. I just cant believe these pga players are that pious. Somethng has got to give to LIV
I could see the Tour backing away from the deal now that Tomorrow Sports has signed the top players on Tour right now to their little SIM league.
Talor Gooch is LIV’s worst advertisement. A slightly above average journeyman in the big leagues who then goes over there and becomes dominant? Lol. He was the kind of player, on a real tour, that you take in the 9th round of your 15 round roto league. Now all of a sudden he’s a star? Why is that? Because he’s not playing real tournament golf against a deep field of great players and he feels no pressure because the Saudis are stuffing his bank account. It’s called playing with house money, which is all LIV is.
This kinda click baity lol
LIV is unwatchable. I just wonder if the PGA is gonna become unwatchable.
This is clickbait!!! Didn't watch it. You are going to believe Phil about PGA golfers leaving the tour for a bush, exhibition league??? You are so crazy. Phil is a friggin liar since every time his lips move he is lying. He has taken over for Norman, another dbag liar to pimp out LIV which will be dead in a year or so if not sooner!!!! Merger or no merger, PGA Tour will be fine. You do realize Phil is getting paid to promote that inferior golf league, so what is he going to say??? If anyone leaves from the real tour, it will be a fringe player or someone who doesn't move the needle. No big deal.
B9…..dramatic garbage…
Come on over Rickie and Jason!
Liv doesn’t need the old tour.
PGA is toast
Phill is right again
This dude king of gossip. What would his mother think?
Phil was right about everything. Not a bunch of crap at all.
WELL THE PGA PLAYERS WONT WANT TO STAY THE LIV TOUR ARE MUCH MORE PLAYER OREANTED AND THOSE THERE DONT WANT TO GO BACK TO PGA THAT MUST TELL YOU SOMETHING AND THE TOP PLAYERS ON THE PGA WILL MOVE TO LIV
WELL I WATCH ALL LIV GOLF ITS SO RIVETING YOU CANT STOP WATCHING I ESTED WATCH THE HIGHLITS BUT NOW WATCH ALL LIV LIVE AND I DONT WATCH PGA ANY MORE ONLY THE MAJOURS
Liv tour is not game changing boring …it’s just exhibition golf
A lot of people are missing one thing with LIV. If the PIF finds in a few years it is not getting a return on its money, it will withdraw funding. If American broadcasters do not televise it, then where are they going to get TV rights from. If they are unable to get sponsors in to help cover the costs, then that is another issue.
And I look at the numbers. On You Tube, LIV has 292K Subs now, and had 275K last year. The PGA has 1.27 million now and had 1.01 million last year. DP World Tour has 414K Subs and had 310K last year. Which ones are growing more on You Tube. The PGA and DP get good money from TV Broadcasters and Sponsors.
So far LIV is only available on The CW in America and Seven in Australia, but it is only on their streaming service.
The New York Post ‘s translation of the February numbers: “Just 286,000 viewers on Saturday and 291,000 on Sunday on its CW broadcasts,” compared to 1.61 million who tuned in Saturday and 2.38 million on Sunday for the PGA Tour’s Honda Classic on NBC. And in March 2023, LIV stopped showing the numbers that watched. CH7 doesn't release numbers either.
I know people love LIV. But real Golfers like me, want to see 150 players grinding for 4 days to earn their money. Not play for 3 days, finish last and still get 125K. And I like the fact that the PGA and DP offer spots to qualifiers and amateurs and do a lot for charity.
I believe the money the LIV guys are getting is a joke and actually they are being overpaid for hitting a golf ball.
Is PIF prepared to keep shelling money out to attract players without guarantees of a return in a reasonable amount of time, it may become problematic for them to keep running it.
The PGA has 44 Tournaments per year. So, if Gooch played in all of them, he earned 9 million in less than 3 years. Surely people should think that is getting well paid for playing Golf. Also, it doesn't include what he gets from his sponsors.
I am not against LIV and if the Golfers want to go and play for the money alone, so be it.
LIV will continue as long as the Saudi's are willing to lose tens of billions of dollars a year on this fantasy golf league. The funds will eventually be withdrawn because nobody has, or will watch it!
PGAT is like most large non-profits. There is a select cream of top people who get rich, while the organization doesn't have to pay anyone, since most of the workers are "volunteers".
There was never any intention for a merger. PGA just wanted to delay so they could ramp up sponsorship and stop the bleeding of players to LIV. PGA is dead. It's been unwatchable for years anyways. They never show the first two days. And when it is on air, they only show 3 or 4 players.
Here's something, a perspective, you should consider. Often folks working in a job see something unexpected from a competitor that puts lie to everything happening in their local market.
What was that event, "the Ryder Cup."
Ever consider the differences between EU and US law and how that might impact that experience? Hmm. the euros are paid by law (no free labor allowed, even willingly).
What happened to the US players? They were made to play "pro bono". I think that really crystalized the issue for the long term loyal holdouts and there was a cross over event.
Also, Rory is a terrible leader who no one seems to want to listen to, and Rory hasn't been helping himself by commenting without a PR firms support, but I digress.
Rory was never fit for this purpose, after all, he is from Europe and can go back any time. 😊
LIV should stay away from corrupt pga….
Since the 80’s the European Tour / DP World Tour has become massively stronger and that is clearly evidenced with Ryder Cup results and the amount of ET / DPWT Major winners.
This clearly highlights how good Seve was for the European Tour as he stuck two fingers up to the USPGA et al, but also highlights how poorly Pelley and his cohorts have managed the marketing of the European Tour / DP Tour.
Solution is staring the DP Tour in the face!
What US entity is going to give the PGA Tour $1 billion? Blackrock? Chase?
If you think Talor Gooch’s earning differentials are eye-opening, try this.
It took Richard Bland over 20 years on the European Tour to earn €6.6m.
In 18 months, he’s earned over $8.8m
No brainier!
I dunno. I still really enjoy watching the majors and I don’t care if Brooks or Bryson are playing. That being said, I’ve found watching LIV tournaments the equivalent of a Corey Feldman concert. Not because of a biased dislike due to the Saudi connection. I just don’t find it watchable. The stupid music, the broadcasters sounding disingenuously excited as if they’re forced to be, the shotgun format is stupid, and no worries about losing as they’re paid anyway. Just not for me.
As an observer of professional tournaments, I find all this struggling over what is, at the end of the day, millions upon millions of dollars pretty grotesque. Sure, golf happens to have a lot of money in its ecosystem, but I'm becoming grossed out at the obscene money these guys are paid. I think Ill just go back to playing the game and leave these greedy people to it.
Again, wellness check on Chamblee !
You've got no idea mate. Just a clickbait story. You need to get your facts right rather than letting your imagination run wild.
Some players will try and qualify for LIV naturally but to say the merger is at risk is just you making s*** up. Don't tell lies.
Nobody runs their mouth as much as you.
In otherwords LIV is more about money and less about the Golf. Nothing against people earning a living but lets be clear why they are really at LIV. LIV is good im not knocking it. It's a different format but it currently looks more like an exhibition to be honest.
If they want ranking points they should play the same number of holes as the PGA. LIV should play over 4 days certainly the individual stroke play but i understand LIV is Roman numerals for 54. I sincerely hope PGA dont go down the 54 hole route.
– – – if LIV is such a great golf league why do LIV have to play players to join?
How many spots available for LIV. Some reports say only 3. Not much of a reason to get world ranking points