Yeah…the right arm…I had a short, flat swing as a youngster (caddy) which worked very well. Then, I got noticed by the club pro and was told that if I didn’t begin straightening my right arm on the downswing, I would always be a short hitter. I could never time it and my good days became fewer.
When Talking about Mac and the Narrow Stance and Starting Down with the Torso , 🤔 Is John Speaking about Mac's 1987 Swing or Later Morad That Mac Teaches Now ?
John, every time you talk I listen. You talk about Lee Trevino hitting a push block and having the ball back. Besides hitting the ball out to the right are there any other downsides to this (back) ball position? I've been watching Lee's Youtubes about short game and his concept of always being in control of the butt of the club and never letting the face come up to overtake the butt, has helped immensely. I'm unsure about the relationship of keeping the butt in front of the club especially as we get into the longer clubs. I know you say that the club face should remain square to target from p.3 to p.5 and that's easy enough but wouldn't our ultimate goal to be compressing the ball into the ground with a clubface which has its loft unchanging? For me, the further back I keep putting the ball the more I feel my body can squash it. Identical to Lee's concept and swings. However; this could just be because my forearms are not strong enough to always return to the same low point strike.
Hi John, I’d like to pose a question to you as a PGA teaching pro myself. I have not played at the level you have, nor have I watched any of the greats from the past in person. I have however developed a real interest in some of these players, especially George Knudson. It is clear to see that the legends of the past had a tempo and rhythm and quality to their swings that we do not see in the modern game. I also believe they were clearly more skill full players given they were hitting longer clubs and played with inferior equipment to the modern players.
I have listened to a lot of your opinions on the modern game however and I do not believe the modern players are as poor ball strikers as you seem to suggest. I can think of many examples, one would be Jon Rahm’s back nine on route to winning the Masters during which he displayed near faultless ball striking tee to green under intense pressure. Louis Oostehuizen recently shot a 62 in the Liv event in London, the highlights of which are on YouTube. If you watch that you will see he was flagging his irons every bit as much as Knudson was in SWWOG in Brazil.
More recently, surely you would class Tiger’s iron play as good as any of the legends’ was? His stats were off the charts for approach in the mid to late 2000s.
I recently attended a European Tour event at the Belfry and followed Antoine Rozner and watched him on the range afterwards. His ball striking on both the course and the range was exemplary, both in terms of strike, compression, and accuracy.
Another example would be Morikawa- if you were to look at any of his good rounds you would see the ability of ball striking he possesses.
In the SWWOG footage of Knudson in Brazil, he was unbelievable. However on the other matches available on YouTube, he missed several shots both off the tee and into the green. It’s clear to see even he, who I am a massive fan of, didn’t have total control 100% of the time.
I would be interested in your thoughts on this. I respect and admire the ball striking greats as much as anyone, I recently bought Knudson’s book, a Natural Golf Swing, and think it is excellent. But I think it is unfair to be so critical of the modern players and their ability, especially if you do not watch golf regularly or attend any Tour events presently.
Hey John, been following your content )and Bradley Hughes) for a while. Can you explain what “bowing to the 4:30 line” is doing to improve the strike. Bradley H also advocates this move I think.
Been experimenting with the drill and get really good contact, though struggling to incorporate the feel into my game swing.
F=MA No mention of V The launch monitor measures the ball and its Velocity and uses math to guess the club's Velocity….but it cannot measure the club's Acceleration which is what makes the ball fly. All launch monitors and V are hocus pocus garbage. My handicap dropped 7 strokes just by watching John. Thank you.
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Yeah…the right arm…I had a short, flat swing as a youngster (caddy) which worked very well. Then, I got noticed by the club pro and was told that if I didn’t begin straightening my right arm on the downswing, I would always be a short hitter. I could never time it and my good days became fewer.
Wonderful. Thank you Mark and John.
Fantastic information.
When Talking about Mac and the Narrow Stance and Starting Down with the Torso , 🤔 Is John Speaking about Mac's 1987 Swing or Later Morad That Mac Teaches Now ?
Another great video. So much great info ❤
John, every time you talk I listen. You talk about Lee Trevino hitting a push block and having the ball back. Besides hitting the ball out to the right are there any other downsides to this (back) ball position? I've been watching Lee's Youtubes about short game and his concept of always being in control of the butt of the club and never letting the face come up to overtake the butt, has helped immensely. I'm unsure about the relationship of keeping the butt in front of the club especially as we get into the longer clubs. I know you say that the club face should remain square to target from p.3 to p.5 and that's easy enough but wouldn't our ultimate goal to be compressing the ball into the ground with a clubface which has its loft unchanging? For me, the further back I keep putting the ball the more I feel my body can squash it. Identical to Lee's concept and swings. However; this could just be because my forearms are not strong enough to always return to the same low point strike.
Hi John, I’d like to pose a question to you as a PGA teaching pro myself. I have not played at the level you have, nor have I watched any of the greats from the past in person. I have however developed a real interest in some of these players, especially George Knudson. It is clear to see that the legends of the past had a tempo and rhythm and quality to their swings that we do not see in the modern game. I also believe they were clearly more skill full players given they were hitting longer clubs and played with inferior equipment to the modern players.
I have listened to a lot of your opinions on the modern game however and I do not believe the modern players are as poor ball strikers as you seem to suggest. I can think of many examples, one would be Jon Rahm’s back nine on route to winning the Masters during which he displayed near faultless ball striking tee to green under intense pressure. Louis Oostehuizen recently shot a 62 in the Liv event in London, the highlights of which are on YouTube. If you watch that you will see he was flagging his irons every bit as much as Knudson was in SWWOG in Brazil.
More recently, surely you would class Tiger’s iron play as good as any of the legends’ was? His stats were off the charts for approach in the mid to late 2000s.
I recently attended a European Tour event at the Belfry and followed Antoine Rozner and watched him on the range afterwards. His ball striking on both the course and the range was exemplary, both in terms of strike, compression, and accuracy.
Another example would be Morikawa- if you were to look at any of his good rounds you would see the ability of ball striking he possesses.
In the SWWOG footage of Knudson in Brazil, he was unbelievable. However on the other matches available on YouTube, he missed several shots both off the tee and into the green. It’s clear to see even he, who I am a massive fan of, didn’t have total control 100% of the time.
I would be interested in your thoughts on this. I respect and admire the ball striking greats as much as anyone, I recently bought Knudson’s book, a Natural Golf Swing, and think it is excellent. But I think it is unfair to be so critical of the modern players and their ability, especially if you do not watch golf regularly or attend any Tour events presently.
Cheers
The big shouulder turn , plus less arms swing, is a peach. 👌
Hey John, been following your content )and Bradley Hughes) for a while. Can you explain what “bowing to the 4:30 line” is doing to improve the strike. Bradley H also advocates this move I think.
Been experimenting with the drill and get really good contact, though struggling to incorporate the feel into my game swing.
Thanks Dave
F=MA
No mention of V
The launch monitor measures the ball and its Velocity and uses math to guess the club's Velocity….but it cannot measure the club's Acceleration which is what makes the ball fly. All launch monitors and V are hocus pocus garbage.
My handicap dropped 7 strokes just by watching John. Thank you.