Ian tests the Titleist TSr4 against his Taylormade Stealth 2+ gamer. See how they compare and if Ian decides to make the switch over.
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35 Comments
Changed from my SIM back to an old Callaway XR16 and the difference was astounding. The XR16 was so much easier, longer, and straighter. With the SIM I was constantly fighting a big fade
Hope you don't be offended by this suggestion. For the filming, please take a moment to towel off the oils on your forehead. It's too shiny under the lights. Something easily remedied. Thanks.
At some point it doesn't look great for the fitting business if a pro fitter has to change his clubs so often
It's my experience that 8/10 players does better with short and actual weight instead of using extra length to make the weight. The easier you can cover with your chest the better the strike and speed are going to be. I've been building 44 7/8 since 2005. 205 grams roughly 70 grams cut just builds a nice d4ish.
Sorry but I just can’t trust the GCQuad with those numbers.
everyone needs to stop pretending tsr isn't the best driver out there.
Honestly Ian needs to a quarterly WITB.
The plus was made to be workable. You should run a test where you have to work the ball right or left on the tee and see what one "works" better and doesnt just pull and push.
Why would anyone buy the Stealth 2 when the face insert pops out on so many heads? How would they not of foreseen this in testing?
Just went back and watched the "Build a Beast" series from a couple years ago, CRAZY the difference between the TSR4 in this video and that SIM2 from back then curious how has Ians handicap has changed since then?
Is this edited???
Ian hits it more accurately than a tour pro
The discussion between two experts about the results is really cool to listen to. I game a PXG 0811X Proto 9° with a G.D. Tour AD XC-6 X flex shaft. I got it off Craigslist about 2 years ago for $175. I hit it pretty good (about 240 with very good accuracy). I'm pretty sure the shaft is too stiff for me and the loft is too low. There's probably other room for improvement as well. I'm going for my first driver fitting tomorrow. The budget is $500. I'm really excited to see what happens. Videos like this give me insights on what to look for and questions to ask.
Ian, Was that an OG Ventus Black?
Shorten the stealth and reweight it and retest
Mrs Bandit prefers a long shaft with a large head……………just saying
Great insight! Was it the ventus blue tr 6x in both drivers?
Any chance of doing these tests outside with a trackman? Not sure if it's normailised and i know it's a downhill hole but the carry at the ballspeed doesn't seem right
Impressive to see 300yd carry from less than 160mph ball speed
I would love to see sequel to this video where you switch shafts and go again. Shorter shaft in TM Ventus black and longer with TSR4 and TRBlue.
Should have stuck with Ping 430
Even though I don’t need a fitting now the next time I need to be fit and have a big budget I know where I’m going for my club fitting
I see that Oak Hill swag Mike. What days were you there?
Always loved the smaller head shorter drivers. Proof bigger isn’t always better. Great one guys!
You should have hit the stealth again then the tsr again. In my fitting I hit both and got the same as you because I hit the stealth first, then tsr 3, 5 shots each, then I hit another 10 shots with stealth and tsr each. The stealth won when all shots where done even though after the first 5 tsr won
Really love the TSr4 — surprisingly forgiving and long — still was spinning a touch higher than my og SIM but its nice to see some testing with the TSr4 — an overlooked option from Titleist — cheers guys!
If I take a TSR 4 10 Degree driver head with Ventus Velocore Red 5s. Set at 11.5 degrees Cut to 44" what would the weights in head need to be?
Ian go back to the original Sim. You hit it miles.
Can I ask what ambient settings like temp and alititude you have your quad set on as 159 ball speed carrying 300+ is not realistic. Enjoy the review but definitely inflating your own numbers.
This is so much deeper than most of us get to explore.
I swing driver at 110mph and granted they don't come out at 2,000 spin, I am certain in all of the drives I have ever hit, I have hit at least one with the perfect launch conditions, and I have never carried the ball 300 yards. I'm not sure how Ian is consistently carrying the ball over 300 yards at 106 – 109mph club head speed? Are those numbers normalised or are they factoring in the hole that you are playing on? (ie. maybe down hill? down wind?)
In the process of looking for a shaft for my old Tayloarmade SIM2 Max. This video has some useful insights on length and accuracy.
I have a TSR4 Ventus Black 6X with +13 back +5 Front 45" length. Initially expected a TSR2 but the 4 was significantly smaller dispersion front to back and left to right.
…again, whenever they are within the margin of error/std dev. of one another, it's just wrong to say either one is "longer" or whatever than the other.
My driver search has gone like this since my Ping G10 gave up. Epic, Epic Flash (both fine), TS2 (spinny), TSi3 (fine a little dippy), SIM2 (fine a little low and not that forgiving), Callaway RMLS, good but spinny….And Stealth 2+ — what a great driver!
I have the Stealth 2+ with a Ventus Blue Velocore 6s. Fantastic driver. Forgiving and long.