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Good video, about 15 years ago there was a drill called “swing like a duck” that I think Golf Digest put out to help get the hips open,
Wow … this is something else 👍🏻
I’m going to give Golftech a go and see if they can help an older senior guy like me.
I don’t have unrealistic expectations … just want to play the best I can for as long as I can.
https://youtu.be/XUu3vbjmVLo
Terrific content! I am pretty sure I have some of the same issues as you.When I was younger I tried swinging like Trevino and the open stance really helped. I remember playing a tournament and flying all my shots over the green as I was compressing the ball like never before! Keep up the great work on your game and the wonderful videos, too!
Your teacher is really good at this! Getting my hips open at impact has been a real game changer for me. What I have found that helps is, thinking about hitting the ball with my right hip. In order to do that, straightening my lead leg onto my heal, while at the same time bending my trail knee first toward the ball and finish with both knees touching at your finish has really helped. oh, and I agree with your teacher, your first move should be stomping down with your left heal. Great series so far!
I had five lessons at GolfTec and I think we’re working on pretty much the same thing. My coach explains things a little differently. He’s primarily trying to get me to use my lower body and just let my arms travel along with my body while squating and rotating the hips at same time throwing the club up around my body. It’s terrifying trying to figure out how to actually go play with buddies, I’m continually saying I’m sorry at same time cussing my way around the course, ha.
Hey, great stuff and that wrist angle hinge you’re doing to start your swing will eventually evolve into your best ball striking and compression you have ever had. Just a hunch there based on what I have experienced as a positive change for me.
I just watched week 1 lesson again. At 9:55sh she mentioned power of Tony Finau for example comes from 40% hip turn and you having none… yet she is telling you to restrict your hip turn. Am I missing something? Great content but just want to make sure I am following what she is telling you with your swing progression🙂
Damn this is good. She knows her stuff.
Let's freaking go
Damn Good Instructer ,Your Lucky to have Her!!
You and I suffer from the same. Awesome improvement on opening of hips. But your are still losing side bend. My teacher said everything reacts to the body. In other words, because you are losing side bend, you are having to straighten your arms at impact. To get that bent right arm at impact, you have to be more bent at the waist. I suck at this and it drives me crazy.
Definitely looking better. Open hips at impact is essential. The trail knee when and how it works is as important as the lead knee. The trail knee works toward the target and not so much out towards the ball target line. Roll to the inside of that trail foot. The trail side is not pushed it is pulled from the opening of the hips. Watch some Moe Norman videos and stop that flipping goat humping . You need less talking and more work.
It's like a revelation to see you doing some of the things that I've been talking about for a long time! It's looking good.
By the way, you once asked me why shallowing was necessary if you already went back on plane but you can clearly see in your stone skipping illustration that the wrist and forearm are going through a shallowing motion and indeed they have to for the mechanics to work properly as in the golf swing.
What I would say about the release in the downswing is that you are used to releasing from the inside and kind of on the trail side of your body and I still see that in the improved swing. This is because (in the original swing) you were looping over the top and dropping the club fairly steeply down from the top so if you didn't release extremely from the trail side and the inside, it would have been impossible to get a solid square strike and you would have been chopping down on the ball too steeply and too outside but you had to stall and dump in order to get some shaft flattening to make it work which you managed very well.
One thing that Golftec doesn't do is measure wrist motion to my understanding so that's worth noting. What I would say is that with the hips opening and staying back, this is where the looping of the clubhead over and under the lead arm on the backswing and downswing respectively comes into play and can be extremely effective. This has to happen to produce the best pattern for leverage because this automatically expands and contracts the arc which is how you crack a whip while allowing your hands to be in a position to readily square the clubface.
In the video today, I would say that the clubhead was moving a little too flat in the backswing so the only way in that case to get some speed, have some looping for leverage, and keep the club on plane while turning the hips through impact is to release from behind you a bit because the clubhead starts dropping right from the top and you would probably hit the ball very thin if you didn't release from further back. All of that can be solved by doing what you're doing and getting the clubhead a little higher over the hands going back.
To that end, the Clay Ballard figure 8 drill that I mentioned several weeks ago combined with what you are now doing would, I think, be very effective. What you want is a backswing clubhead path and position that, while turning the hips and keeping them back (as you're now doing more), allows you to swing out past the ball while the clubhead has enough initial height and width (not just in position but path) in order to drop rapidly and fall behind the motion of the hands.
This is what allows one to really drive the trail elbow deep into the side and leverage the trail elbow in the downswing. Not all tour players have this deeper trail elbow motion but all of the longer ones do (Champ's a good example) because it's directly associated with power but you just can't do that without clubhead path width and height because without them there's nowhere to which to drop the clubhead as the elbow works in. So to be clear, the more that you lead with the trail elbow in the downswing the more clubhead arc narrows and shallows which is why the extra room in the backswing becomes important. Narrowing and shallowing coming down means that the clubhead arc relative to the hand path can widen and steepen through and beyond impact, exploding the clubface through the ball, which is where all of the extra speed and power comes from. Definitely encouraging though 🙂Cheers.
One word of caution re: trying to straighten the left knee. Butch had Tiger concentrating on snapping the left knee on the downswing. You guessed it: repeated hyperextension and lots of knee surgeries. As the pros say, take one aspirin, not the whole bottle.
Loving this series!
… and yet most instructors tell you to stay closed [shoulders/hips] with weight on the left side in order to compress the ball , so, do you move the ball back in your stance to avoid topping it when being open ? This reminds me of Steve Johnsons Eureka swing . This seems to counter everything about Stack & Tilt ? Thanks for taking the time to make these videos .
Good stuff, rotation to clear hips while trail arm remains connected.
Really interesting as always. If anyone can do it, Golf Test Dummy can do it.😄
I have heard other Teachers, Dan Del Barrio, teach to turn the head towards the target before impact. Like Annika, Duval did. It seems like when you do that, you can turn through much better!
Are you no longer doing S&T? Or is the GolfTec lessons a version of S&T?
Chris Ryan has a drill that will help; start the downswing with your body while the club is still on its way back. It is either with a towel or I have also seen a rope. Swing the towel/rope back (backswing) and before the towel hits your back start the lower body forward. The towel/rope gives you some haptic feedback on your back to help with sequencing.
Is golftec stack and tilt focused?
Can you do a brief summary at the end, i get lost if there is too much talk/chatter/waffle, yer everyone is different in being able to absorb what is being said. i luuve the KIS principle.
I'll be curious to see how this goes for you, but I can tell it's already looking promising. I bought 10 Golftec lessons last month, and quit after 3 and got a refund. I kept injuring myself trying to get into the positions the coach wanted. I kept telling him I'm a 48 year old novice and not a 20 year old "tour pro" who started playing when they were 5, but it didn't seem to matter. They have a script to follow apparently, and he was hell-bent on it. Maybe a different instructor would help…
I follow JChown golf and he hammers that impact position. I’m still struggling to get that position and it’s probably because it feels so different. But I think it is all in that glute to the back move to you have to have first.
I would guess most golfers that perceive the golf swing as a swinging your shoulders, arms and hands have the early extension problem. Changing to body rotation and leaving your hands behind is difficult after 20 years or so of throwing ones hands in what seems like a swing motion.
Same issue here! I made my own pressure board with an old skateboard. It seems to be helping. Also, JChown golf has another helpful drill I use too. I’ll do 5 reps on each drill than hit 2 regular shots. I just started golf in February and have been using GOLFTEC too.
People early extend for one of 3 reasons: 1) clubface is too open so they have to stall the hips to catch the club face up. 2) club shaft is too steep so they have to stall the hips and stand up to shallow the swing path and 3) shoulders turn too flat in the downswing (ie not enough side bend or tilt) so the hips stall to shallow the swing.. the right shoulder is connected to the left hip.. if your right shoulder moves down and around then the left hip moves around the back.. the key to really good ball striking (assuming you have a good clubface and swing path) is to create the proper amount of right side bend / tilt in the downswing so the left hip can react/clear while at the same time making sure you get enough weight to the lead foot… sometimes when you first start to increase right side bend, you’ll leave too much weight on the back foot and hit it heavy… golf is hard
I have a swing evaluation next month at Golftec so seeing your journey is very cool
Chad, man I’m loving this! It’s a tremendous aid for us to watch what you’re going through! Outstanding!👍🏽
Hi, Chad. The main point is reducing the hip turn in backswing and more hip turn and chest open during impact position?
Jess is great over at golftec NR I'm over at the Durham location, enjoy!!
Nice series going here, and from a fellow Raleigh golfer. Have been working on getting in the right positions with the back and downswings and have focused on wrist position, which helps with the right position. At least a little 😂.
Look up Elite Golf Schools on YouTube. They explain everything you're trying to do including getting open and shallowing. Literally changed my perspective of the swing.
My teacher told me to feel like my shoulders are swinging over the top but drop the arms on the downswing. It was just to keep my shoulders perpendicular to my spine. It maintained my head position and I stopped humping the goat.