What defines a winner in football? talkSPORT’s Jim White and Simon Jordan have their say!
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46 Comments
Jordan backtracking and talking rubbish
I am a Liverpool fan and they use to say the same thing about Liverpool when they came second and it got me worked up. Rio is spot on! Arsenal have had a great season but they are not winners. You have to win to be a winner! Praise them for their improvement but do not overshoot and call them winners!
Ferdinand can't choose to champion 'Winning Mentality' and say 'Ole at the Wheel' at the same time. Ferdinand needs to choose one.
Rio is right here
"the spectrum of winning" no it's not a spectrum, it's binary you win or you lose.
You don't "win" for coming second, I'm sure these would also be the guys to complain about participation trophies
Simon problem you think you are the only clever person in the world. Having a winning mentality and being a winner are 2 different things๐
Rio is right all day long lol
Simonโs seen Rio with his top off and he donโt want none of that smoke! ๐ฅ
winners or bottlers โฆon the path to winners but they bottled it ๐
Rio is bang on.
Rather listen to Simon all-day than Rio boring on the fence man utd boring boring boring boring please!
Pretty simple English to understand to be fair
Rio talking sense 100%
A "winning mentality" wouldn't have seen Arsenal draw those 3 fixtures before getting turned over by City, at the business end of a season.
Rio is spot on arsenal have a brilliant season yes it was it there hands but nobody remembers second place
Base on Simon's analysis, spurs is a winner ๐ ๐คฃ
Doesn't have to be a trophy attached (IMO) Arsenal have won a place in the Champions League and Newcastle are pretty close too.
โ I am marginally rightโ ๐คฃ๐คฃ๐คฃ๐คฃ what a clown
Simon thinks bankruptcy is a winner.
Simon is a donut!
Rio is absolutely spot on
Niether are Utd these days will Rio admit that?? Seems not after his pop at Emery and Villa.
Rio got relagated. With QPR. So he's a loser yeh ?
How can 1 man gang up on 2 people by talking facts, we dont care what you're view on what winner means we all know what it means and arsenal arent winners
Arsenal are the best losers this year
Handbags ๐
I havenโt had their jabs & didnโt wear their muzzles ๐
Simon the knob head ๐
Rio is completely right
Im an arsenal fan and even i 100% agree with rio here who i hate ๐
Simons been attacking arsenal for years Iโm all for him now heโs backing us ๐
What does rio know he said making odegaard captain was a big mistake
Rio ainโt the brightest
Imagine if Arsenal pulled it off and won the league. I would love it.
Rio, Neville and all these ex Manchester United players hate Arsenal. They are smug and too big-headed. The fact they would prefer Man City says everything.
Agree with Rio
Rio Ferdinand is a twat, the disrespect he showed to Emery the other week was completely uncalled for and showed him up as a proper knob
Itโs just a stupid thing to say, a team that wins nothing are winners๐๐ wow!!
"I am marginally right" … is a cop out of a response, Simon, and you know it. You were smoked by Rio here
Sorry but Ferdinand is living in the past still . Abd bext sesson will be lucky to finish top 6th . Liverpool with a few key signings will be challenging again . Chelsea with a proper mansger in should be challenging, arsenal i don't think iys a one season wonder as the second half of last season was brilliant. Newcastle will only strengthen each year and obviously city is city, where as United now to me is just a toxic club fans want owners out, half there squad isnt good enough apary from there midfield and rashford and varane whos ageing a bit now there squad is average so unless they have a major clear out and heavily invest which i dont think there owners will i think at best theyd come 5th but with the likes of villa and brighton want to be pushing aswell for those positions and spurs depending what happens with kane and the manager it xould be a difficult season for them
So we are saying that Burnley as Championship Winners offer more than Arsenal as Premier League runners up?
Jordon full of lShit as always !
I think it is "winning" vs "being successful"… there are no derivatives of winning in sports, you either win or you lose. However, you may be successful, even without winning a title or a trophy.
Liverpool came 2nd by a point 97 and 98 points rival fans hammered liverpool in the banter pages for coming 2nd regardless they got the highest points for coming 2nd.
Arsenal are not winners ๐ฎ they bottled it. City gave Arsenal a chance and lowered the difficulty level this season to hard where as Liverpool was up against city on world class level
Simon Jordan should change his name to Clown. bloody accept it when you are wrong.
they won a lot more games than they lost. so isn't that winning? and they do have a trophy under Arteta, the F A Cup, rememberthe one United bottled?