0:00 INTRO
6:00 SHUBMAN GILL’S THIRST TRAP PHOTO
14:37 THE ASHES
31:44 MITCHELL STARC
47:41 PHIL WALKER
1:14:05 THE IPL
1:19:00 TOM MOODY
1:40:35 ICC PROPOSED REVENUE DISTRIBUTION
1:59:30 #ASKTGC – WINTER CRICKET?
Shubman Gill makes the statement of the IPL with the thirstiest of thirst traps. Have to respect the lighting. The Ashes is one week closer, so we guess what’s going to happen with a few more hours of knowledge. Mitch Starc joins us from Sydney to give his insights into how the squad’s golf game is looking. Tom Moody joins us from India to tell us what’s going on in Indian cricket and if the IPL means we’ll get more shirtless selfies and less Tests. And Phil Walker joins us from London to give us his hopes and fears ahead of the most important Ashes series since the last one.
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On a scale of 1 – Phil Walker how good are you at talking about cricket?
The main reason the English cry about IPL is because their The Hundred (wtf is that format anyway) is shit.
If English or Aussies had the most successful comp in the world, you'd see how different their tone would be. 🙂
PS. Test Cricket comes first to us too ❤️
#ASKTGC How is pandering to a nation and its unforeseen muscle while hating every iota of them feel as you eat, sleep, shit and repeat everyday ? if yous' twos' can come up with a word 'to describe that feeling' is # worthy, I swear to become a become a Patreon for life.. Ching ching eitherways mofos..
#ASKTGC Hi Sam, Ian
Avid listener of your podcast here!
Enjoyed your existential debates on cricket's future over the past several episodes! Deeply thought provoking
I've always seen myself as a traditionalist – to me, cricket is a game where you bowl a side out twice for fewer runs, to win the match
Conserving the red-ball game is paramount. But that needn't necessarily be the same as conserving international cricket. We need to separate out these two things.
Red ball game can be conserved even with the franchise model. Imagine a "test" match between Mumbai Indians and Sydney Sixers at the MCG with 6 overseas players in each side! A more appetizing prospect than a West Indies – Sri Lanka test match at Galle!
International cricket is messy. For reasons that are hard to deny. The key issue with the international game is the lop-sided character of it, where one nation has a billion people and all other nations are barely a few tens of millions. This makes for unequal contests, talent deficits in smaller nations like the Caribbean, and a near-impossibility to satiate ambitions of Indian cricketers who find it impossible to make it to the test / ODI / T20I team. (ask Sanju Samson)
Franchise cricket makes for better contests, more opportunities for cricketers of all lands (think Rashid Khan) , more competitiveness in the sport. But it would be a shame if Franchise cricket is all about T20. We should work towards a model where you have a red ball league. Maybe 4-day "tests". Or even a 1-day one-innings "test" with 4 or 5 wickets per side (including draw as an option). Try to conserve the spirit of red ball cricket in a shorter duration. Of course the valuations won't be as great as the IPL. But not everything needs to be about money. Franchises hopefully will come around to the idea of red ball matches, which will enrich our game.
International cricket can continue in a limited way involving India, Aus, Eng (w.r.t. test matches) and maybe a couple more w.r.t. ODI/T20I cricket. But the red ball game should and can thrive even in a world of franchises.
Regards,
Shrikanth
#ASKTGC (a continuation of my prev comment) I feel there is much misunderstanding of the Indian cricket watching public in the Anglosphere..
From the discourse carried out in these podcasts (esp with English, Aus journalists), you get the impression that Indians don't care for Test cricket or the red ball game at all. This is just not true by any objective measure.
There is a lot more trepidation and interest for say the WTC final in India than in Aus. Why…even for a series like the Ashes, I wouldn't be surprised if more people tune in to watch it in India than in Aus or even England. You can measure this by the number of tweets or responses / comments you see from Indians in social media on test-match related videos/posts
I think the misunderstanding exists because Anglos often forget that Cricket is a "mass sport" in India. Akin to football in England or Brazil. So obviously there is a vvv large base that cares zilch for the red ball game. And is obsessed with T20 and IPL alone. But you still have hundreds of thousands of Indians who care deeply for test cricket. Just that they will always look small relative to the hundreds of millions who care for T20. It is a numbers game. Jeffrey Archer sells more copies than Dickens. But that doesn't mean that Dickens isn't read anymore
It feels as though Australians or English care more for Tests, because Cricket is NOT a mass obsession in those countries. Esp not in England. It is a marginal second or third sport. Plus the populations of those countries are much smaller. So the support for cricket is more niche. Test lovers constitute a bigger % of the cricket watching public.
Moreover, it is unfair to insinuate that India or Indians are killing test cricket. India honors the red ball game perhaps more than Eng or Aus. Our first class tournament (Ranji trophy) is still held during the normal cricket season (Dec-Feb). Our T20 tournament is played off-season during peak summer. In contrast, England has pushed its first class season (as well as tests) to early in the summer, to accommodate The Hundred.
India is eager to play 4-test / 5-test series with England, Aus (something we never did back in the 90s v likely because Eng and Aus didn't find us to be attractive tourists to host).
Mitch Starc is the nicest guy in cricket
Change is the only constant that exists – Buddha
Nice sweater Ian. Where’s it from?
Shubman gill wrote thirst trap in Hindi. He used Hindi text to write English words.
ICC distribution system sucks big time. What’s the point of earning so much money if it cannot be shared to grow cricket across the world. BCCI needs to recognize that and actually need to maybe 25% and share rest of 12.5% help maybe Zimbabwe, Kenya, Afghanistan, West Indies etc. It will eventually benefit India in long run.
It's India who generates 80% of revenue for icc and on the other hand India is only getting 38.5 % from icc. if India get equal amount of money from icc like like nz wi then India won't be able to sustain its cricket infastructur and eventually it won't be able to generate revenue for icc which will lead India to reduce its billatreal matches and Bro it's a foolish argument to say oh it's 11 vs 11 why India is getting more money. If that's the case ASUTRILIAN 11 VS ENGLAND 11 should generate the same amount of revenue for icc. Bcci gets 38.5 % not because we have the best team in the world it's because whenever India plays there are more Indian audiences who are watching the match and that's why advertisers pay more money. And finally Indian kids not only Chase money there are a lot of Indians who value test cricket..
Sad to see this show getting degraded to the the great crap from the great cricketer. An Indian put a pic on twitter is somehow bullying, what the hell😂,,,, gigglly guy without the hat is what made me close the vdo halfway thru.
We are still waiting for penis tatoo
Mirror selfie 😂…Kohli did it in 2015, in Australia, during the World Cup 😅
Test matches aren't going to survive on their own they need t20 matches to fund those test matches
Why they aren't making the point that all full member teams should be funded equally they are just being selfish and calling india selfish
Soft power 😄
Loved all the interviews in this one, Moody was especially insightful
Bois i genuinely think this might be your best episode. Perfect mix of just about everything. The dryness pf CRATS, the "colonial charm" of walker, wisdom from long old tom moody. Both of you were in special form.
Phil Walker's interview was lit, profound and beautiful
Please make Phil Walker a weekly feature when you cover the Ashes !
What you guys and a lot of other western people are forgetting is that if you want the money to go to people that need it to play the game, most of it needs to go to india because there you have by far the most people who want to play cricket and need the resources.
Moreover, if you talk about growing the game, be it in terms of income, participation, viewership or any other angle, its obvious that investing in the biggest market will yield the best returns. Ridicilous how these simple facts are overlooked while bs arguments like india needs opponents so they deserve more of their money. Which is totally false. India could easily pay the best players of the world large sums and have a 10 month long ipl and earn way more money without the help of any nation.
India has a good infrastructure for the game but still has tens of millions of people not able to play the game, far more than anywhere else. So i understand why they dont want to give away a large part of their earnings. Totally normal for any organisation of any kind.
The Hyperbolic Chamber is a good name for TGC Studios
Scorchers vs Chennai, I mean it's like Babar vs Kohli comparison. Scorchers don't stand a chance, prolly after a couple of years when CSK is re building
You guys should get Andy Zaltzman on once. He would a great match for your irreverent style of humor.
That ask tgc was amazing lol
What I love is how eloquently and articulately they chat shit
❤this has been one of the best in your body of work for a long time gents
The administrative side is of interest and I’m angry and sad at how it’s being handled. The smaller nations / poorer nations should be getting more money and India should really not be so greedy for the greater good of the game. I agree with Gideon Haigh – it’s not just India, it needs opponents to play with and international players to play in IPL.
Gill definitely has vegina
Rohit Sharma must be happier next week when Shubhman Gill will be on his side ❤
Sara Tendulkar doesn't deserve gill.