In this episode Patrick Broe and Benji Naesen recap the 13th stage of the 2023 Giro d’Italia.
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23 Comments
The percentage of times a "big stage" lives up to the hype is pretty low. Transition stages seem to be where it all happens in this era.
The Vuelta and the Giro need to switch on the calendar, Benji is 100% correct on that!!
The descent was fine.
What a stage. Much to dislike. Thanks for clarifying and analyzing. It was helpful.
Enjoyed the Pinot show, 😁, and I was happy Rubio won.
Thanks, guys.
Very cleverly played by Rubio. Let the other two argue and knock lumps out of each other while you ride steady.
Pinot was ridiculous. Cepeda not pulling was pretty understandable. He pretty much singlehandedly created the break and EF clearly had a plan to launch Carthy on the last climb. Not much point setting up your GC rider to take time if you're simultaneously dragging a different team's GC rider back into contention. I'd sit on too
Matt White raised a good point. You can't change a route (use different roads) at the last minute. You can only shorten it or cancel it. Too many logistics to deal with. Police, route/hazard marking, road closures etc. To get rid of the dangerous descent they would have had to finish at the top of Croix de Coeur.
I don’t think I’ve ever been this disinterested in a GT ever before especially considering theres just 2 seconds between first and second place 13 stages in.
I’m just not feeling any suspense between the GC riders at all, and honestly Roglic and G are probably both gonna crash out or get ill before the end of the giro anyway and some random guy is gonna do a Bradbury. Maybe Leknessund or De Plus from a break no one’s bothered to chase.
Pro cycling is officially broken. Grand Tours like this boring Giro are from the dark ages. Swapping dates of all the tours for better weather conditions is just the first logical step. What's really needed is a total re think on how the sport works. We need drastic change. A proper 30 race single day race calendar. Thirty different countries. Not unlike the the F1 calendar. A single grand tour per year. This also in a different country every year. We are never going to have the stable weather we grew up with. This is the new normal. Plan for disruption.
Good commentary..what a sh*rt show. If the organizers know there's a possibility of very bad weather in May then they either need to not have that route on the stage or have a real contingency in place. This is what mature organizations do. Altering the stage for reasons other than weather (sickness, whinnyness, faux weather etc..) is wrong.
Appreciating Benji's rant. Lafevre proves that there needs to be an extreme protocol to put a gag order on stupid jerks.
Well let me tell ya back in the old days crap like this did not happen that I remember riders are getting soft! Andy Hampsten is laughing at them!!
The giro and vuelta should swap in the calendar.
The GCN commentators have really convinced themselves that Jay Vine learnt to race on Zwift. I guess road racing outside of Europe doesn't count for them
"Sick" is a general term, having cold and having flu or covid is a completely different situation. You can limp throught the first (I know cases where people actually had success after getting healthy in a three week race) but not through the latter – which runs a risk of heart muscle inflammation. The organizers made amends for the real extreme stage few days ago they should have changed but they did not. I think riders were already pretty angry, some are on the edge. If they run them through the rain for 6-7 hours they could get 5-10 abandons – they already have 41 and the hardest parts are still to come. If this goes on in this kind of weather they could get 90-100 riders leaving the race by the end. That is worrying even for the organizers. The stage was fun to watch.
wait, are this "pro" riders? complaining about weather? really?
Very courageous of you to keep podcasting this SSR
It’s beyond me that the UCI obsess over sock length but don’t do proper course reviews that rule out actively dangerous descents and sprints in conjunction with organisers, riders etc. – especially with impact of climate change to take into account. The weather definitely not extreme and all this confused decision making needs addressing and clarifying. When you have a year to make decisions a better outcome should be possible.
Patrick holding on the podcast through sickness without shortening the duration – strong GC behavior
Gee is truly impressive, but is the Wout light still. If Gee wins a mountain stage dropping climbers like Mollema & Alaphilippe in the process, or drops Pogi on Hautacam coming in 4th after being in the break for 160 k, we can make him the standard😁
Riders care more about being light and aero than being comfortable on a long hard stage with bad weather.
Hope u are feeling better. In any case great energy in the podcast 👍
also: why set the "queen stage" for Friday when most folks are at work?
starting to look like Ineos will win another Grand Tour due to shortened stages…is that the only way it can happen for them in the past 5 years?